The Rise and Fall of V-Cube | Part 2
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ต.ค. 2024
- V-Cube had just released the V-Cube 5, 6, and 7, and everyone was happy. So if the cubes were good, why did they collapse so quickly?
Thanks again to Thom "Kirjava" Barlow for proofreading the script.
Ah man, I remember the patent infringement being a big deal. I was getting into speedcubing and had just bought a regular Dayan Guhong and lubix lube, and this issue became a huge discussion within the community (I joined speedsolving forums around this time, iirc). I was not happy that the cubing community was arguing so much or in danger of getting divided, as a previous online community that I was a part of (sim racing) had been divided from a lawsuit some years before. I'm glad it has all passed.
Do one of these about the Rubik's brand.
yeah
True. They are suing thecubicle.us for tricking people that they sell "knockoffs" that has the same level quality as a Rubik's brand. I laughed so hard when I first knew about it.
Kaleb Riley Bravo more details pls
uhh tubric yep they were very dumb with that
I agree
this reminds me of the fall of me myself and pi...
@M J I don't know man...maybe cubing historian should do a video on him :)
He’s quite active actually in his secondary channel “MorePi”. He does a lot of tornado chasing there.
Anton Pham and there mmap gaming
@M J he switched to minecraft
This channel need more damn exposure and subscribers.
The content is excellent.
seeing thrawst, mmap and rob gave me goosebumps its been like 10 years im old
Aren't we both, deary me...
Its nice to see something fresh in the community, and this looks like you could have a very interesting channel. Keep up the good videos!
I NEED THE V-CUBE 1X1 RIGHT NOW!
4:57
I saw a vcube box at barnes & noble yesterday.
you aren't lying.
Me too!
update 4 year ago me, the barnes&noble you went to doesn't exist anymore.
Ah, I remember all of those old V-cube vids from back in the day. I started cubing in 2011 and I remember thinking that V-cube and Rubik's were the only brands for a little while.
I got into cubing right before the controversy, I think. V cubes were all the rage (except the 6x6's clicking mechanism, which was made passable by memyselfandpi's mod). I got v cubes 2,5,6, and 7 and... a dayan guhong. Right before the patent stuff got filed. What a crazy time to be in the twistypuzzles forums!
Oh man, this is sad. I just dug up my old v cube 5, 6 and 7. 7 was great and the 5 was one of the best 5x5's I'd ever used. I figured they were up to some ridiculous number by now but nope.
They're pretty underrated these days. I have V-Cube 2x2 through 9x9 and while they aren't "speedcubes" they are very well made solid puzzles. Much better than anything Rubiks puts out in terms of quality. And you have to respect that they were the first to figure out how to make 'big cubes'.
Great work! I love all the nostalgia.
No dislikes, this is a good community :)
Msg at 3:35 :
"actually cube4you still exists but they make a great example of a dead cube store. I mean, who actually buys from them anymore? The latest cube they have in stock is the mefferts holey megaminx, and that was added in 2014. Seriously. Anyway, back to your regularly scheduled lesson. "
its so sad, I can remember the time, when they released their first cubes. I got hyped and bought 6x6 and 7x7. It felt so amazing because it was something what didn't exist before. I was also hyped for the following products.. even bigger cubes? wow. But then, only bad business decisions. I didn't need a 3x3, weird color schemes, flags etc. But look now over 10 years later there are the cubesI I have ever dreamed of for so long. Moyu 12x12 stickerless and cubic (not that meh pillowed)... I thought v-cube will deliver but they never did..
V-cube also never adapted with the times, which is ultimately why people stopped buying them altogether. Shengshou and Moyu started making their own big cubes that were undeniably better than the v-cubes which were complete shit especially out of the box compared to these new ones. They never updated the v-cube 6 design which still had the horrible clicking mechanism, and you always had to mod it yourself. That's despite these new cubes offering what was essentially a pre-modded v-cube that was better than you could ever do yourself. The v-cube 5 still took months to even break in to be at least comparable to new 5x5s. Big cubes today almost feel like turning a 3x3 yet v-cube is still using their 12 year old designs
This puts a lot of the older videos into context
V-Cube be like: Let's pop it up!
rip v-cube
Awesome video man, just got into curbing so it's sweet that i can get caught up on the history of this hobby through you
*cubing
CuRbInG
hurr durr
When is the vcube nine coming out
Joey Cubes next year, already saving up
harite ¿ I have a shengshou 9x9 which I think is better quality than vcube so I will just use that but I hope you like your vcube 9
Joey Cubes Thanks! (If I get it)
lol get the yuxin
Joey Cubes today!
Oh boy it's been a while. In my opinion, V-Cube is probably doing fine. They made a smart decision by deciding to go for the normal retail market rather than the speedcubing market in the end. Speedcubing requires constant innovation, and given how long it took them to release each of their cubes, they didn't seem up to that task. The only decent off-the-shelf cubes before V-Cubes came out were actually Rubik's brand, while everything else was really cheap and awful garbage. Now V-Cube competes with them directly rather than the ultra-niche speedcube market.
THE NOSTALGIA
Your channel is amazing :) and the quality makes me wonder why you have so little subs
Nice Channel and really good video!
i subbed
great job! my only complaint is that u didnt talk about the v cube 4 vs x cube 4 puzzles
They only appeared after the damage was done
The reason why I don't buy vcubes is that they're expensive. I never had a problem with the whole patent infringement thing, but then I wasn't really much of a speedcuber, but more of an enthusiast. I have a few vcubes and more chinese brand speedcube.
great video, keep up the good work!
CrazyBad, I remember learning card tricks from his videos back in high school. How's he doing these days?
You never talked about the vcube 4 ? All I have from vcube is a 4x4 lmao
(and you teased it a little, like "everybody was waiting for their 4x4", "there was NO decent, functionning 4x4 at the time")
In addition, compared to other cubes today the v-cube can compete in terms of speed, but pops and breaks easily and has virtually no corner cutting.
great vid
When is the VCube 1x1 coming out? I am looking for a 0x0 too.
robs world !!
I knew i knew him from somewhere lol used to watch his origami videos as a little kid now I'm 18
WERE ALMOST AT 10K
WE CAN DO THIS
What about we tease V-Cube's Twitter?
Around the same time, MMAP stops cubing.
2:26 wheres my country's flag
Very interesting, thank you! But doesn't vcube still prevent paypal usage by cube shops? I saw a comment to that effect by a rep of thecubicle just recently.
Tim van Esch link?
ROBS WORLD!!?!!?!?!?
ShengShou killed V-Cube
V-cube has done nothing incorrect comicly I rest my case.
So, basically everybody hated them just because of an infringement that SOMEONE ELSE put on them, and even though the good cubes were back, everybody still hated them? That sounds dumb.
They did it to more than just that one through the years which has a way of making them look like a patent troll. That of course also has a way of hindering progress because stuff that performs better may get attacked while V-cubes themselves stay virtually stagnant in performance because they don't seem to care much about improving their own products. As a result, people aren't happy about V-cubes being priced higher than most others being made yet performing among the worst.
Also like CrazyBadCuber pointed out, ironically instead of using their own design for their 3x3, they used another company's design (The Dayan Guhong). But doing more digging, people also found that V-cube's design likely wasn't even their own idea to begin with as it is strikingly similar to Eastsheen's (compare their 4x4s), which was publicly patented before Verdes claimed to have thought up the conical design all himself. So those points certainly didn't help V-cube's credibility and public image on their supposed strict stance regarding what they define as "knockoffs" either.
and they have no corner cutting
rubik's + v cube =
i still have ALL the vcube cubes and they aren’t that bad
The Roblox Kid Gaming and More sorry to break it out to you but as of this day, there are far better cubes at a cheaper price from Yuxin
@@elrockerchido sorry to break it to you but as of this day, there are far better cubes from companies like MoYu and Gan and Qiyi
Those V Cube packages are horrible.
I am subsc iber
Im so glad this god awful brand got what it deserved, oblivion, shame. So long v cube, you shall not be missed
Suomi mainittu! Torilla tavataan
SUOMI PERKELE
Haha
R u robs world
The vcube 2x2x2 is doodoo
rekt!
F
I use v-cube 4