@@martinhidalgo7481 im not 100% Sure what a shop would charge but would be in the 8 to 10 hours labour range. the panels were about 150 dollars. paint and materials was about 150. hopefully you can find someone reasonable. ty for taking the time 🤝
Came out good. I have to do exactly this to my white 2001 Navigator. My running boards are already off. I'll be happy if I can do half as good. This video has been a big help. Thank you.
Very very good job I see this is two years old but I'm looking at a 2003 Expedition with rocker panel damage should I say rust and you've opened my eyes up to it really good job
Nice work Caper. I wish I had the skills and tools to fix my 1998 F150 like that. The problem is it's just too far gone since the frame is completely rusted out. I'm in the process of stripping it down and salvaging as many parts as I can before scrapping it. All I need is someone to help me pull the 4.6L before Winter hits and I'm set. Thanks for sharing. Cheers!
What type of sealer did you put down before painting? Is there any difference between all of them or are they pretty much the same and you can use it on different parts that you're working? I'm getting ready to do this on my 2005 expedition. Mine is a little worse than yours, the dog legs are rusted out on my. I'm going to make this my winter project as long as the weather stays decent like it did last year.
How structural are rocker panels, actually? Does the body style make a difference as to how important they are? I've been reading all sorts of crazy and conflicting stuff. Help!
very informative video, I have the same year expedition with the same rusted rocker panels, I've handled all the repairs on my truck for 20+ years, but I don't have a garage set-up to do this level of body work. Any recommendations in Northern Virginia that can be trusted to do this job correctly, thanks in advance, thought I'd ask.
Thanks for the video. My rot is crawling up the pillar currently. I thought about doing this job but always wondered, what keeps the back and top side of the new panel from just collecting water and rotting out again in another few years? Seems like a losing battle.
@@thisguysgarage Makes sense, do you drill holes in the panel and use the little reverse shooting nozzle method to get at the back of the panel? That is the only way I have figured out how to do it.
If you just wanted a quick fix to pass inspection or sell the truck you cant beat that but honestly, I'd be pissed if I brought my truck to get rocker panels replaced and it looked like that when you were done. You could've been a little neater with it, you didnt even try to get the access seam sealer off.
I think he did a great job for what is was, if you wanted a professional job then take it to a body shop, it would cost you more than the truck was worth.
I have a Mig welder with Argon/CO2. I don't have a garage. I was weary about welding outside. So, I guess just be careful of the wind? I was going to rivet it in place and take it to my dad's garage, but maybe, I'll give it a shot in the driveway. My first welding project with a brand new welder... I've used welders before but never for body work. Cool video. Thanks for sharing. :)
What I do when I'm outside and there's a breeze I use a large cardboard box 📦 to block the wind and you can always turn the Guage up a few pounds to boot. Sometimes we have to make it work in the big bay aka the great outdoors lol. Let me know how you make out 👍
@@83oldspatser not a problem I have never had an issue with the small punch i just increase the power on the mig for good burnthrough penitration 👍 ty again
Nice video, quite informative. Just out of curiosity, how long did it take you from start to finish? I'm facing a similar issue on my 97 Expedition, but the rust has gone further up and weakened up to the pinch welds. Think I could get your opinion on how to approach it if I get a video of the areas in question?
absolutely willing to help out, get me a link to your video showing the issues and i will talk you through . to answer your first question it was done in one day ,starts at noonish finished at dusk about 7 or 8 hours. any questions anytime my friend
Not trying to be an ass cause it did look good when it was finished but I kinda figured with all the nice tools and equipment to do the job im not sure why you wouldn't have used bondo instead of seam sealer and actually sand it, prime it and paint it my step-dad is a body man for over 30+ years and I've never seen him use a seam sealer after welding in New panel's and then paint right over top of it. Guess I'm just wondering if this is something kinda new or something older and ive just not ever seen done? Looked similar to just regular cocking but like I said not a bad job!!
everyone has their own method. none are wrong, the factory uses seam sealer, not body filler, so i go with that method. 100 different ways to skin a cat, none are wrong. really appreciate the question ,have a great one and again ty for taking the time.
Using seam sealer as bondo is what you do when you're quick fixing something to sale he should have kept spot welding until all the welds are touching then grinded them down smooth unused a little body filler to make things look nice seam sealer goes on the bottom under the cab then sand prime and paint
@@mikeakers1209 ty for your comments. I have 30% more spotwelds than a factory panel. the factory uses the same sealer for joined panels. I have not made this video to your standards but you tube is a big platform there is room for your video should you choose to make it. I will like and share 👍 thank you again.
@@thisguysgarage sorry if I pissed you off the bottom part under the cab was good I just didn't agree with the top inside the door jams if you would have finished spot welding until the welds touch it makes the panel stronger and more like one piece again
@@mikeakers1209 didn't pass me off. ty for taking the time sincerely. there is more than one way to skin a cat. I still stand by the job as it was appropriate for a 22 year old vehicle. not every repair is a concourse restoration. no harm no foul
i never had any problem with any seam sealer that i bought from an auto parts store(jobber) that specializes in paint. they are all pretty good just use professional products would be my recommend
@@thisguysgarage got one more question. Is there any type of metal thats fairly cheap that I could use? Like sheet metal or something like that. I did order the rockers from ebay but they sent me the wrong one's and thats all they have in stocks. Thanks
How much would it cost to have a body shop perform this repair?? My explorer sport has same level rust. I dont like new cars I want to fix my explorer. Anyone have an idea the cost at bodyshop? 5-6 thousand or less or more?
i woul not think it should be any more than 8 hours labour paint and material any more than $1500 -$2000 for outer rockers would be too much imo color/parts will vary the cost
@@tbirds26hockey I would ballpark 800-1200 depending on the extent of the rust. This job was in the middle of that road if I was charging for it. Ty for the great question 👍
Aww Ford quality... it looked pretty ugly for a bit there! Nice work though! I assume you’re a mechanic by trade... We don’t deal with rust here-more dust than anything else and 110F degrees weather err 43C. 😃 Keep it up sir!
I think it's funny that people speak so lowly about ford.. I've had just about all types of cars and different makers..but my 5.4 and 4.6 both now have over 250,000 original miles with no major services needed except for a fuel pump. I see Nissan transmissions goin out around 75,000 miles. Fords with the modular 5.4 and 4.6 are indestructible years (1997-2003) anything newer is junk
@@stoverboyz9254 They have all gotten worse imo. 😃 I don’t care what people buy but there’s some issues with manufacturers that are just uncalled for. Saving a few cents and causing problems down the road bothers me.
@@thisguysgarage My asthma is acting up watching you cut and grind those rusted metal 😂😂. We might be strangers of each other but still, I care about your health. Anyways, awesome job sir!
ty for taking the time to share your thoughts. you can always make your own video to show me the errors of my ways. have a great day 😀 👍 let me know when you get it done I will share like and subscribe 🤜🤛
Starts punching rust off the truck and then just no safety gear using cutting wheel. Subscriber for life.
awesome pinned! lol ty brian
Does this remind anybody else of the hacknpackshop video's
I mig welded for 8 hours once with a t shirt and no gloves, I ended up with an amazing sun burn on my arms and hands.
@@zacdrilling4554yes it does. That guys videos were inspiring. Lol
I was dreading this on my 2000 expedition but you got me over it
I love this cars
Sounds like 6th Avenue Heartache playing in the background. That actually made me sit back and enjoy myself and watch.
THIS. GUYS. GARAGE. BLESS. YOUR. HEART. The. BIG. White. Vehicle. IS A. FORD. Wonderful
ty so much john ,the owner is a friend of our's
Hi guys! thanks for this videos I wonder if here in illinois shops where they can do this for a good price thanks.
@@martinhidalgo7481 im not 100% Sure what a shop would charge but would be in the 8 to 10 hours labour range. the panels were about 150 dollars. paint and materials was about 150. hopefully you can find someone reasonable. ty for taking the time 🤝
I haven't really look but it is what I being thinking it is going to be between 1000 and 1500 for the job on the video.
@@martinhidalgo7481 that is the ballpark 👍 see if you can find a trade school. that may be a good option 👍
Came out good. I have to do exactly this to my white 2001 Navigator. My running boards are already off. I'll be happy if I can do half as good. This video has been a big help. Thank you.
very welcome B Spin, appreciate you taking the time ,don't hesitate to ask any questions when you are ready to tackle it!
Very very good job I see this is two years old but I'm looking at a 2003 Expedition with rocker panel damage should I say rust and you've opened my eyes up to it really good job
I need one of those lifts. That thing is sweet.
it is bandit!
Nice work Caper. I wish I had the skills and tools to fix my 1998 F150 like that. The problem is it's just too far gone since the frame is completely rusted out. I'm in the process of stripping it down and salvaging as many parts as I can before scrapping it. All I need is someone to help me pull the 4.6L before Winter hits and I'm set. Thanks for sharing. Cheers!
Well hopefully the boarder will open up to get you know what and we haul that engine out.
Thanks William
This video gets a well deserved "like".
thank you Henry
Really nice to see the process my friend! 👍
ty so much my friend!
Great job buddy!! Not to bad of a process I suppose. Definitely good to know. Thanks for sharing
Thanks my man
Great video! All the knowledge I'd need to tackle it myself :)
a big ty buddy!
Thanks. Great work and video. It is also a good idea if you cover those poor doors and door panels by paper so the paint dust won't sit on them.
Great tip! ty sir
Didn’t know about the electric sheer tool, thing cuts pretty smooth
It is awesome sir. Ty for taking the time
Nice job wow u are very good fixing that rusty thing. My truck have the same problem I need to fix it wish u can do it for me
thank you so much, appreciate you taking the time!
Up north be rusting out anything. Maybe some aluminum panels? Doubt the make em.
Actually the panel i put on is treated with a coating that is nearly impervious to rust. Ty buddy
aluminum corrodes like crazy.
What type of sealer did you put down before painting? Is there any difference between all of them or are they pretty much the same and you can use it on different parts that you're working?
I'm getting ready to do this on my 2005 expedition. Mine is a little worse than yours, the dog legs are rusted out on my.
I'm going to make this my winter project as long as the weather stays decent like it did last year.
I used gutters from HD and worked good
Good to know!
How's she goin'? That was a nice job. You made it look simple, but I know it's not!!! Looked good when you finished. Take care!!
ty sir! appreciate it!
What is the air tool called that you crimped and punched the holes with?
Great video, thank you!
doesnt the inside rust have to be taken care of with a rust protector spray paint before you attach the replacement parts ?
If you want to start a fire when welding on the new panels. Drill holes for undercoating after the job is done 👍
How structural are rocker panels, actually? Does the body style make a difference as to how important they are? I've been reading all sorts of crazy and conflicting stuff. Help!
Nice Job and keep up the great work!
Thanks, will do!
Question why would you need caulk? Isn’t it possible to seal it all up with the welding?
Nice job, thanks for the good info
thank you so much for taking the time Robert! really appreciate it!
very informative video, I have the same year expedition with the same rusted rocker panels, I've handled all the repairs on my truck for 20+ years, but I don't have a garage set-up to do this level of body work. Any recommendations in Northern Virginia that can be trusted to do this job correctly, thanks in advance, thought I'd ask.
Thanks for the video. My rot is crawling up the pillar currently. I thought about doing this job but always wondered, what keeps the back and top side of the new panel from just collecting water and rotting out again in another few years? Seems like a losing battle.
undercoating undercoating undercoating ,cant stress enough. ty john
@@thisguysgarage Makes sense, do you drill holes in the panel and use the little reverse shooting nozzle method to get at the back of the panel? That is the only way I have figured out how to do it.
@@johnlagreca6288 yes . You got er🤜🤛
Please tell me you didn't use flux core.
Great video!!! What did you use for seam sealer?
amzn.to/3t1bace here it is
If you just wanted a quick fix to pass inspection or sell the truck you cant beat that but honestly, I'd be pissed if I brought my truck to get rocker panels replaced and it looked like that when you were done. You could've been a little neater with it, you didnt even try to get the access seam sealer off.
thanks for stopping by, appreciate it!
I think he did a great job for what is was, if you wanted a professional job then take it to a body shop, it would cost you more than the truck was worth.
GREAT JOB GUY YOU TOOK YOUR TIME AND DID IT RIGHT.PS TRUMP 2024
Ty 👍 🤜🤛
I have a Mig welder with Argon/CO2. I don't have a garage. I was weary about welding outside. So, I guess just be careful of the wind? I was going to rivet it in place and take it to my dad's garage, but maybe, I'll give it a shot in the driveway. My first welding project with a brand new welder... I've used welders before but never for body work.
Cool video. Thanks for sharing. :)
What I do when I'm outside and there's a breeze I use a large cardboard box 📦 to block the wind and you can always turn the Guage up a few pounds to boot. Sometimes we have to make it work in the big bay aka the great outdoors lol.
Let me know how you make out 👍
@@thisguysgarage I will. Thanks for the reply. I think I'll give it a go. :)
@@MorrowSind 🤜🤛
@@MorrowSind 🤜🤛
wow, that is one skill I lack..Welding. Good work bud
Thank you sir 👍
Love full face shield work gloves cut sheet metal as sharpe as razor blade work bench is patio chair I seen enough in first 2mints
to each 👍
Where is the shop ?
Please add a link for the seam calk
By chance is your punch flange tool the 5/16 , or the smaller one. Also whats the part number on the Makita metal shear? I need them!
small home flange tool ,could not find a 5/16 when i was looking makita nibler:
amzn.to/2PQtmoo
@@thisguysgarage thanks guys for quick response. I will watch for more of your videos! Awesome 👌
@@83oldspatser not a problem I have never had an issue with the small punch i just increase the power on the mig for good burnthrough penitration 👍 ty again
Where is that shop ?
Follow this guy's tutorial on rocker replacement if you want to do everything wrong! I kept watching for the comedic value. Holy shit!
Good job was it all one day?
took the running boards off the day before but yes for the work being done in one day. it was literally dark when i finished it. ty so much J
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Nice video, quite informative. Just out of curiosity, how long did it take you from start to finish? I'm facing a similar issue on my 97 Expedition, but the rust has gone further up and weakened up to the pinch welds. Think I could get your opinion on how to approach it if I get a video of the areas in question?
absolutely willing to help out, get me a link to your video showing the issues and i will talk you through . to answer your first question it was done in one day ,starts at noonish finished at dusk about 7 or 8 hours. any questions anytime my friend
@@thisguysgarage Just got the video for you, let me know what you think. 315,000 miles on it :D
th-cam.com/video/1CwUsBxilUE/w-d-xo.html
How much for that kind of job
parts material and labor about 1200
Not trying to be an ass cause it did look good when it was finished but I kinda figured with all the nice tools and equipment to do the job im not sure why you wouldn't have used bondo instead of seam sealer and actually sand it, prime it and paint it my step-dad is a body man for over 30+ years and I've never seen him use a seam sealer after welding in New panel's and then paint right over top of it. Guess I'm just wondering if this is something kinda new or something older and ive just not ever seen done? Looked similar to just regular cocking but like I said not a bad job!!
everyone has their own method. none are wrong, the factory uses seam sealer, not body filler, so i go with that method. 100 different ways to skin a cat, none are wrong. really appreciate the question ,have a great one and again ty for taking the time.
Using seam sealer as bondo is what you do when you're quick fixing something to sale he should have kept spot welding until all the welds are touching then grinded them down smooth unused a little body filler to make things look nice seam sealer goes on the bottom under the cab then sand prime and paint
@@mikeakers1209 ty for your comments. I have 30% more spotwelds than a factory panel. the factory uses the same sealer for joined panels. I have not made this video to your standards but you tube is a big platform there is room for your video should you choose to make it. I will like and share 👍 thank you again.
@@thisguysgarage sorry if I pissed you off the bottom part under the cab was good I just didn't agree with the top inside the door jams if you would have finished spot welding until the welds touch it makes the panel stronger and more like one piece again
@@mikeakers1209 didn't pass me off. ty for taking the time sincerely. there is more than one way to skin a cat. I still stand by the job as it was appropriate for a 22 year old vehicle. not every repair is a concourse restoration. no harm no foul
Are rocker panels important?
sorta kinda lol ty holly
What seam sealer are you using or what does everyone recommend?
i never had any problem with any seam sealer that i bought from an auto parts store(jobber) that specializes in paint. they are all pretty good just use professional products would be my recommend
@@thisguysgarage awesome thank you
@@bigpoo02 very welcome. stay in touch always happy to answer questions 😊
@@thisguysgarage got one more question. Is there any type of metal thats fairly cheap that I could use? Like sheet metal or something like that. I did order the rockers from ebay but they sent me the wrong one's and thats all they have in stocks. Thanks
I'm starting to think you know your way around a garage.
why thank you charles. i grew up with it. i bleed rust lol
@@thisguysgarage
Rust?
I find that hard to believe.
If you had said Country Gravy, I would not take issue with that.
Did you make those rockers? Or buy? If bought, where at?
store bough ,had good luck with ebay panels though
How much would it cost to have a body shop perform this repair?? My explorer sport has same level rust. I dont like new cars I want to fix my explorer. Anyone have an idea the cost at bodyshop? 5-6 thousand or less or more?
i woul not think it should be any more than 8 hours labour paint and material any more than $1500 -$2000 for outer rockers would be too much imo color/parts will vary the cost
@@thisguysgarage thank you for replying!
@@GreatBirdOfHope any time never hesitate 👍
I was quoted 5k
Never seen anyone use seam sealer as body filler before…..
every car on the road has it
How much did you charge for that Job😭😭😭😱😱
was helping a buddy out 0$
where is your shop?
im in nova scotia Canada
D- in auto body class🤣🤣🤣
Can you do that on mine?
would have to see it
so basically if I don’t get my rockers replaced, I'm waiting for it to fold in half after hitting a pothole -
how much did you charge the customer for this?
no charge it was a friends truck.
@@thisguysgarage ahh I see. Do you know the ballpark range though if it was just someone else and not a friend?
@@tbirds26hockey I would ballpark 800-1200 depending on the extent of the rust. This job was in the middle of that road if I was charging for it. Ty for the great question 👍
@@thisguysgarage much appreciated! Thank you for the fast reply .
@@tbirds26hockey no problem at all
Aww Ford quality... it looked pretty ugly for a bit there! Nice work though! I assume you’re a mechanic by trade... We don’t deal with rust here-more dust than anything else and 110F degrees weather err 43C. 😃 Keep it up sir!
ty brian ,i am an auto body tech by trade but being an over achiever i play mechanic on youtube lol, ty my friend!
It's not just Ford, I can show you plenty of rusted out Dodges and Chevys. They all do it, just in different locations.
I think it's funny that people speak so lowly about ford.. I've had just about all types of cars and different makers..but my 5.4 and 4.6 both now have over 250,000 original miles with no major services needed except for a fuel pump. I see Nissan transmissions goin out around 75,000 miles. Fords with the modular 5.4 and 4.6 are indestructible years (1997-2003) anything newer is junk
@@stoverboyz9254 They have all gotten worse imo. 😃 I don’t care what people buy but there’s some issues with manufacturers that are just uncalled for. Saving a few cents and causing problems down the road bothers me.
Y’all are savage. No safety anything for the job. Lol
lol ty ray
@@thisguysgarage My asthma is acting up watching you cut and grind those rusted metal 😂😂. We might be strangers of each other but still, I care about your health. Anyways, awesome job sir!
@@jev2867 thank jev ,we I appreciate that!
Do you wanna do another one lol
maybe in the spring ,these things do leave much room to work in the garage lol
You did the whole process wrong.
ty for taking the time to share your thoughts.
you can always make your own video to show me the errors of my ways.
have a great day 😀 👍
let me know when you get it done I will share like and subscribe 🤜🤛
the messiest and nastiest looking job ever. It will last long enough to sell the vehicle in a few weeks.
Looks like a total hack job to me
make your own video then ,we will promote it for you. ty robert
I do not make videos, but if I did it would show better work than this did. Owner obviously does not care
@@robertchambers9774 the opinion of the critic matters not....