Death Proof Dave! Came across your channel while recovering from a recent shoulder surgery. Just want to say thanks for putting this into the world, I love the approach and perspective. You’re communicating concise useful information with a bit of wit. Pretty sure I’ve watched everything you guys have produced. Looking forward to the next one! Cheers Terry
Thanks for the compliment. I to am recovering from shoulder and bicep surgery, I know how boring it is so I'm glad that we could be of some help killing time during your recovery.
Yesterday did it including chain conversion. The race went in but got it done, had to loosen the nut on the main shaft on the tranny side an tap it a little to get the tool behind the race. Got rid of the race, replaced with the ball bearing in the inner primary. Was not that complicated as first thought. Well explained as usual, great video!
Love your video brother, it's to the point not a lot of BS. Most of these guys are so in love with themselves takes twice as long as it should. Read your bio, I suffered pretty much the same thing in a motorcycle accident. I'm an ASE master I'm a master tech on several different car lines I'm a licensed aircraft mechanic and have the same problems from a TBI. It's good to see you kicking it in the ass Brother it's inspiring, gives me hope.
@@DeathProofProductions When was 2018 left frontal lobe left temporal lobe and then another one can't remember what it was called. I have a ton of memory issues. I'll be in the middle of doing something and can't remember you know lose focus and forget what I was doing. Following up on stuff just kills me. So many things I know but can't get them. Guess they made me come back for something. Keep it upright Brother, Take care
The race on my main shaft walked all the way in so I couldn't use the race puller so I had to carefully use a grinder and cold chisel to remove it. Also I had to replace the seals twice because I had the drive belt too tight. Great video
Damn impressive! I appreciate this content and your all the hard work you do in editing and creating the content. You are a true master of your craft. You make it look so easy.. Which, to your point it is. Some common sense, a heart beat and some tools. Speaking of I have to find some of those special tools :)
Very good but it looks like the pinion gear wasn't lined up into the coupling properly. It was meshing with the ring gear. I do think its worthwhile to put a little ultrablack on the inside primary case bolt holes and some on the threads of the lowest primary case bolt..
It was lined up but I did go back on the footage and look and your right it's hard to tell but it's on the inside of the ring gear. We're learning about the different camera angles and how they can effect what people see. Harley after a few years quit using the ultrablack, now his had it but I chose not to bring it up because if someone had it on there they would know and go ahead and use it, but if from the factory they didn't have it then they prolly don't need it I kinda wanted to leave it to them.
Hello Sir , thank you for the great content of your videos . Are you familiar with Cal-Products extra heavy duty inner primaries , I am trying to install one on my 1981 FLH rotary top trans . I have installed by the book and the mainshaft is really hard to turn , any ideas as to my problem . Is there such a thing as shims you can install under the transmission or is that a bad idea . Most of the other after market primaries are junk . Any help or advice you can give will surely be appreciated . Thank you .
Sorry for delay in response been tied up working on the panhead. I've never used that brand before but it shouldn't be making the main shaft hard to turn. have you checked the alignment of the engine to transmission.
Thanks for the help . The transmission bolts were very loose when I tightened the primary mounting bolts , then I tightened them down . I will check that and see . Thank you.@@DeathProofProductions
I appreciate this video. It helped with my recent (and first) primary job on an '06 Deluxe. I do have a couple of questions though. Could using an impact driver on the compensator nut potentially cause the crankshaft to scissor due to the severe jolting? How do you know everything is torqued to specs if you use an impact driver to tighten the bolts?
It's really tension from being tight and the red loctite that keeps it on, all the tech's I worked with at the dealership did it that way. Never seen one come loose in 24 years doing it like that, As for shucking the flywheel's it's not near enough force to do that due to the tight interference fit of the crankpin. From my experience it mostly happens from lugging the motor or racing it with stock flywheel's. But there is nothing wrong with torqueing it down either. Tech's just have to figure effective but faster ways to do things since we get paid book time.
Is there no torque spec for the nut of the belt pulley? I know this is apples and oranges; but if I don't torque my sprocket nut to spec on my shovel it'll leak transmission fluid.
You just tighten it down good with the 262 red loctite and line up the lock plate. When they went to using the quad seal between the spacer and gear it really improved the seal. What year is your bike.
Very cool I know there are alot of shovel haters still out there but I've been riding them since the nineties. I found that if I went through and fixed the things that a.m.f. let slip through the cracks there very reliable. I've never been afraid to head cross country on mine and in my opinion it's one of the sharpest looking engine's that they ever put out.
@@DeathProofProductions I plan on doing an 800 plus mile trip on it next weekend. Got 5 other bikes to choose from including 3 evos but decided to get this one buttoned up the best I could and give it a go. It's a kick only with foot clutch and jockey shift. Should make for an interesting video I think.
What gasket and seal kits do I need for this process? The bike I'm working on is a 1992 softail custom. The sprocket seal is puking oil all over behind the primary. Is there such a kit that includes all gaskets and seal required?
@@DeathProofProductions I was able to find 2 separate kits through J/P cycle that had everything I needed. I'm also replacing the sprocket spacer while it's apart due to some minor grooves where the seal seats. I know all to well it's better to do it now than to wait until it becomes an issue. Thanks so much for the info! I will check their site out for some other purchases.
The compensator is 1 1/2 the clutch basket is 1 5/16 The sprocket nut is 1 7/8. The puller is a inner primary bearing race puller. Thanks for the compliment on the vid.
Did you grease the outside of the trans main shaft oil seal to help it slide in? Brad the Wizard said not to on his YT channel but I accidentally did. Wondering if I need to pull it out and reinstall without lubing the outside. Thanks!
your fine, the amount of tension on the outer ring against the machined surface will keep it in even if it does have oil on it. remember there is no load pushing behind it.
Very awesome video what size sockets were you using to install the jack shaft seal and what size would you recommend for pulling the primary bearing and replacing it?
Nice video.. I have a 2001 ultra classic that is leaking oil. Out of primary side somewhere. But not on outer primary gaskets. Would it possibly be a seal between inner primary and engine case? I have seen oil on clutch cable and oil lines under neath. But cant really see where coming from But oil is low in primary every couple hundred miles. Thanks
Is it possible to remove the starter with it attached to the inner primary on a 2010 SOFTAIL ? Seems like it would be easier than removing the oil tank.
Man that sounds like it might work. Never thought about trying that but as long as the starter clears everything than I think it's worth trying. What's the worst that can happen it doesn't work and you have to pull the oil tank.
The twincam holds a special place in my heart, it came out the month of my 21 birthday and that month I got the call from my dealer telling me my black dyna that i ordered 6 months prior was on it's way. After 25 years hundreds of thousands of miles multiple cross country adventures with a twincam I have to say I love them do I think the Milwaukee 8 is better prolly a little.
I love your videos and would like to know what you think. I have a problem with my 2000 Dyna Twin cam 88 engine. Oil appears in the engine from the gearbox, I replaced the oil pan gasket 26072-99a, tightened the screws in the correct order, but the gearbox oil continues to flow into the engine. Oil pan in good condition, no defects. What would be your opinion? Or any other gasket, crankcase ventilation? Maybe you have faced a similar problem. Thanks in advance!
I solved the problem, the fault was in a damaged 34917-99B gasket. The oil pump, taking oil from the sump, also took oil from the gearbox, and the oil from the gearbox went into the sump, but not into the gearbox. I replaced the gasket and everything seems fine. Thank you and maybe this information will be useful to someone. Good luck everyone! @@DeathProofProductions
Do you need gaskets on the engine side of the inner primary cover? About to install a whole new primary on a dyna that I bought at auction. Love the video!
Briliant! I will go to the next Harley dealership , pay them the parts and one hour work! Then i will show them your Video and tell them, i will pay not a single penny more! I suppose, after that, either they kick my butt, or i will hear a couple of shots, when they realize what they are 😂
@DeathProofProductions I ask because I jus bought an 88 softail custom that had this knock only under load. I figured it was a loose compensator nut cause a buddy bike's did the same as mine and his nut was loose
@DeathProofProductions that's exactly what I thought. I gotta replace the charging system in it now so I ran the nut off wit an impact and literally as soon as I hit it, it was turning the nut so I'm pretty sure that's the issue. Wish I could send u some photos of the bike. Also I love the panhead vid u made. It literally is therapy watching u put her back together man!
Harley seals don't last long. The primary cover front large o-ring leaked on my bike with only about 18,000 miles. When I remove the cover I found that the shifter seal was leaking also. This is just one reason I'd never buy another Harley , there are many more reasons.
On air impacts from years ago I would agree fully. Now days electric ones have variable speed triggers that let you can control the speed. Let's you use them as electric ratchets then torque when you hit bottom with a torque wrench . 30 years as a factory certified Harley mechanic made me fall in love with these when they cam out.
Me and the techs I worked with at Bumpus Harley Davidson in Memphis always did it like that, never once had a comeback because of it. Been a factory certified Harley mechanic for close to thirty years and I have never had a issue with impacting off bolts. What's your reasoning for not using them.
This might be the best harley repair video I've seen. No stupid intro. Brief description. No words. Clean shots. Cold beer.
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Hear Hear!
All this guys videos are like that!
Death Proof Dave!
Came across your channel while recovering from a recent shoulder surgery. Just want to say thanks for putting this into the world, I love the approach and perspective. You’re communicating concise useful information with a bit of wit. Pretty sure I’ve watched everything you guys have produced.
Looking forward to the next one!
Cheers
Terry
Thanks for the compliment. I to am recovering from shoulder and bicep surgery, I know how boring it is so I'm glad that we could be of some help killing time during your recovery.
Wishin U both a speedy get better friends.
David,
Definitely the best seal replacement video for a twin cam ever made. I am a subscriber and watch all your videos. Very well done.
Thanks, glad that you enjoy our work.
This guy is legit!! Very straightforward with no BS, he definitely knows Harleys
Yeah man he’s really good . I dont know how he doesn’t have a lot more subscribers than he does . I got a good feeling it coming
Yesterday did it including chain conversion. The race went in but got it done, had to loosen the nut on the main shaft on the tranny side an tap it a little to get the tool behind the race. Got rid of the race, replaced with the ball bearing in the inner primary. Was not that complicated as first thought. Well explained as usual, great video!
Thanks for the compliment. How's the bike been running this season.
Love your video brother, it's to the point not a lot of BS. Most of these guys are so in love with themselves takes twice as long as it should. Read your bio, I suffered pretty much the same thing in a motorcycle accident. I'm an ASE master I'm a master tech on several different car lines I'm a licensed aircraft mechanic and have the same problems from a TBI. It's good to see you kicking it in the ass Brother it's inspiring, gives me hope.
Thanks for the compliment, glad to see your ok as well I know how hard it is to have your central prossesing unit damaged. What year was yours.
@@DeathProofProductions
When was 2018 left frontal lobe left temporal lobe and then another one can't remember what it was called. I have a ton of memory issues. I'll be in the middle of doing something and can't remember you know lose focus and forget what I was doing. Following up on stuff just kills me. So many things I know but can't get them. Guess they made me come back for something. Keep it upright Brother, Take care
Have I told you how bad I wish we were neighbors Dave...always the best instructional video's on the interweb...do wut U do Death Proof👍
Thanks..
Your very good at what you do man...love the channel brother, keep it rollin
Thanks.
the first hd garage channel with 5 star video production. Shout-out!
Thank you very much.
The race on my main shaft walked all the way in so I couldn't use the race puller so I had to carefully use a grinder and cold chisel to remove it. Also I had to replace the seals twice because I had the drive belt too tight. Great video
I had to do that once as well, it's a real pain in the ass. Thanks for the compliment on the vid.
Man, that brought back some memories. I had one of the 1st belt drive primaries in Tulsa on my '67 Shovel.
Thanks for the video brother, You must have read my mind i gotta do this soon. Have a good 1
Damn impressive! I appreciate this content and your all the hard work you do in editing and creating the content. You are a true master of your craft. You make it look so easy.. Which, to your point it is. Some common sense, a heart beat and some tools. Speaking of I have to find some of those special tools :)
Thanks, it makes me happy to see the work is appreciated and helpful to people.
How much would it cost for a job done like that
Great video, very helpful. Gonna replace drive belt and primary seals on my softail soon. Thanks a lot
No problem 👍
Nice job. Looked like a clean bike to start with.
It was just leaking some .
The magic of video. If it was only that fast and easy. Thanks.
so true.
We all need a neighbor like you!!! 🏆
Thanks for the compliment.
the editing in the opening is top notch!
thanks very much
Great video,straight to the point and clean
Thanks for the compliment, means alot to know your work is appreciated.
Thanks for the video.
The editing is great. Keep up the good work!
Thanks
God how I’d love to live there. Country. Love it.
Very good but it looks like the pinion gear wasn't lined up into the coupling properly. It was meshing with the ring gear. I do think its worthwhile to put a little ultrablack on the inside primary case bolt holes and some on the threads of the lowest primary case bolt..
It was lined up but I did go back on the footage and look and your right it's hard to tell but it's on the inside of the ring gear. We're learning about the different camera angles and how they can effect what people see. Harley after a few years quit using the ultrablack, now his had it but I chose not to bring it up because if someone had it on there they would know and go ahead and use it, but if from the factory they didn't have it then they prolly don't need it I kinda wanted to leave it to them.
Great video. Only one criticism- can you slow down so I can see which way round the seals go.
Thanks for the compliment, also for the feedback we can use to improve the content.
Fantastic instructional video.
Thanks
great video thank's love your style no B.S. with you brother
Looks like you’ve done this a time or two! 👍🏻
Yes I have
Great video. What size sockets for the compositor and clutch
1 1/2 For comp and 1 3/8 For clutch. Thanks for the compliment on the vid.
Greetings from Germany! ❤
Hello Sir , thank you for the great content of your videos . Are you familiar with Cal-Products extra heavy duty inner primaries , I am trying to install one on my 1981 FLH rotary top trans . I have installed by the book and the mainshaft is really hard to turn , any ideas as to my problem . Is there such a thing as shims you can install under the transmission or is that a bad idea . Most of the other after market primaries are junk . Any help or advice you can give will surely be appreciated . Thank you .
Sorry for delay in response been tied up working on the panhead. I've never used that brand before but it shouldn't be making the main shaft hard to turn. have you checked the alignment of the engine to transmission.
Thanks for the help . The transmission bolts were very loose when I tightened the primary mounting bolts , then I tightened them down . I will check that and see . Thank you.@@DeathProofProductions
Well ya made that look easy ..👍🏻🇦🇺
Thank you.
I appreciate this video. It helped with my recent (and first) primary job on an '06 Deluxe. I do have a couple of questions though. Could using an impact driver on the compensator nut potentially cause the crankshaft to scissor due to the severe jolting? How do you know everything is torqued to specs if you use an impact driver to tighten the bolts?
It's really tension from being tight and the red loctite that keeps it on, all the tech's I worked with at the dealership did it that way. Never seen one come loose in 24 years doing it like that, As for shucking the flywheel's it's not near enough force to do that due to the tight interference fit of the crankpin. From my experience it mostly happens from lugging the motor or racing it with stock flywheel's. But there is nothing wrong with torqueing it down either. Tech's just have to figure effective but faster ways to do things since we get paid book time.
Is there no torque spec for the nut of the belt pulley? I know this is apples and oranges; but if I don't torque my sprocket nut to spec on my shovel it'll leak transmission fluid.
You just tighten it down good with the 262 red loctite and line up the lock plate. When they went to using the quad seal between the spacer and gear it really improved the seal. What year is your bike.
@@DeathProofProductions 1979
Very cool I know there are alot of shovel haters still out there but I've been riding them since the nineties. I found that if I went through and fixed the things that a.m.f. let slip through the cracks there very reliable. I've never been afraid to head cross country on mine and in my opinion it's one of the sharpest looking engine's that they ever put out.
@@DeathProofProductions I plan on doing an 800 plus mile trip on it next weekend. Got 5 other bikes to choose from including 3 evos but decided to get this one buttoned up the best I could and give it a go. It's a kick only with foot clutch and jockey shift. Should make for an interesting video I think.
It probably will be a good vid. Be safe and have fun.
What gasket and seal kits do I need for this process? The bike I'm working on is a 1992 softail custom. The sprocket seal is puking oil all over behind the primary. Is there such a kit that includes all gaskets and seal required?
Check out cyco gaskets the got a kit for the primary and you can get thetrans seals as well, I recommend the engine seal as well.
@@DeathProofProductions I was able to find 2 separate kits through J/P cycle that had everything I needed. I'm also replacing the sprocket spacer while it's apart due to some minor grooves where the seal seats. I know all to well it's better to do it now than to wait until it becomes an issue. Thanks so much for the info! I will check their site out for some other purchases.
hi
great video. what are the sizes of the big sockets? and the name of the pulling tools?
thanks
The compensator is 1 1/2 the clutch basket is 1 5/16 The sprocket nut is 1 7/8. The puller is a inner primary bearing race puller. Thanks for the compliment on the vid.
thanks
Did you grease the outside of the trans main shaft oil seal to help it slide in? Brad the Wizard said not to on his YT channel but I accidentally did. Wondering if I need to pull it out and reinstall without lubing the outside. Thanks!
your fine, the amount of tension on the outer ring against the machined surface will keep it in even if it does have oil on it. remember there is no load pushing behind it.
Very awesome video what size sockets were you using to install the jack shaft seal and what size would you recommend for pulling the primary bearing and replacing it?
Thanks for the compliment. I'm not at the shop right now as soon as i get there I will let you know.
Nice video.. I have a 2001 ultra classic that is leaking oil. Out of primary side somewhere. But not on outer primary gaskets. Would it possibly be a seal between inner primary and engine case? I have seen oil on clutch cable and oil lines under neath. But cant really see where coming from But oil is low in primary every couple hundred miles. Thanks
yeah its probably one of the seals leaking, your gonna have to pull it to be sure.
Just curious I just bought an old softail that has been sitting for years. It is low miles and the final drive belt looks good… should I trust it?
Those things last a long time, make sure it's set to the correct tension and you should be good.
Is it possible to remove the starter with it attached to the inner primary on a 2010 SOFTAIL ? Seems like it would be easier than removing the oil tank.
Man that sounds like it might work. Never thought about trying that but as long as the starter clears everything than I think it's worth trying. What's the worst that can happen it doesn't work and you have to pull the oil tank.
@@DeathProofProductions Thanks for the reply man, I figured if anyone would know it would be you. I'll give it a try when the time comes, take care .
great video no fluff gets to the meat & potatoes of the.work pretty self explanatory after that thanks
Thanks for the compliment.
Great videos 🎉
Thanks for the compliment means alot to know your work is appreciated.
Very nice video how much would a job like that cost 2:36
At the dealership probably around 7 to 8 hundred.
Great job...job many miles on that bike?
Thanks it's 02 with 36000 miles.
When you removed the sprocket nut did you need to put the transmission in gear to lock it up?
Yes.
Great video 👍😎
Thanks
Do you prefer the twin cam over that milwaukee motors? What do you think of the Milwaukee motors?
The twincam holds a special place in my heart, it came out the month of my 21 birthday and that month I got the call from my dealer telling me my black dyna that i ordered 6 months prior was on it's way. After 25 years hundreds of thousands of miles multiple cross country adventures with a twincam I have to say I love them do I think the Milwaukee 8 is better prolly a little.
I love your videos and would like to know what you think. I have a problem with my 2000 Dyna Twin cam 88 engine. Oil appears in the engine from the gearbox, I replaced the oil pan gasket 26072-99a, tightened the screws in the correct order, but the gearbox oil continues to flow into the engine. Oil pan in good condition, no defects. What would be your opinion? Or any other gasket, crankcase ventilation? Maybe you have faced a similar problem. Thanks in advance!
So your dip stick for the oil is going up and the oil on the dip stick for the trans is going down. Am I understanding that correctly
That's right.@@DeathProofProductions
Check the primary through the inspection cover. Let ma know what you see it could be the main seal leaking
I solved the problem, the fault was in a damaged 34917-99B gasket. The oil pump, taking oil from the sump, also took oil from the gearbox, and the oil from the gearbox went into the sump, but not into the gearbox. I replaced the gasket and everything seems fine. Thank you and maybe this information will be useful to someone. Good luck everyone!
@@DeathProofProductions
Ditto,no nonsense,get er done!
Do you need gaskets on the engine side of the inner primary cover? About to install a whole new primary on a dyna that I bought at auction. Love the video!
Just a o ring for the engine side
@DeathProofProductions any chance you have the part number for the o ring?
you can get it from cyco gaskets part# is CY11147.
U r the GOAT ❤
nice work
Thanks
Thank you !!!!! 5 Stars !!!!!
Thanks
Sup boss what did you use to to know when you was at .100 when you left that gap in between?
I used a old car anttena that measured. 100 with the end bent.
Thanks man I have a 2010 road king would be the same same .100? I tried looking online can’t find anything and I called Harley and no answer
Sorry for delay been covered up. The 6 speed has a step on the mainshaft that u push the race against.
Briliant! I will go to the next Harley dealership , pay them the parts and one hour work! Then i will show them your Video and tell them, i will pay not a single penny more! I suppose, after that, either they kick my butt, or i will hear a couple of shots, when they realize what they are 😂
Another great Video.. 🥃🥃🥃
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dang that was easy...for you haha love your videos
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You a.the GOAT !!!!
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Nice video, is this a twin cam 5 speed?
Yes, it is
Mahalo brother fo the video...
You bet
Is there a certain depth that 5th gear seal needs to be set at?
Flush.
@@DeathProofProductionscopy that thank you for the reply!
Is there a way to install that seal at 3:42 without the tool?
What u see me install the seal with is the compensator shaft.
Awesome thanks! Do you recommend changing that while you're in there? The only seal I hadn't considered since I didn't have the install tool.
Yeah it's good insurance.
What red loctite number are you using?
242
what year Harley?
2002
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That compensator nut was a lil loose no?
It might have been but I can't remember, it's been awhile since I worked on his bike.
@DeathProofProductions I ask because I jus bought an 88 softail custom that had this knock only under load. I figured it was a loose compensator nut cause a buddy bike's did the same as mine and his nut was loose
Yeah it will do that if it's coming loose, if you pull the inspection cover off and you can feel play from the rotor then it's loose.
@DeathProofProductions that's exactly what I thought. I gotta replace the charging system in it now so I ran the nut off wit an impact and literally as soon as I hit it, it was turning the nut so I'm pretty sure that's the issue. Wish I could send u some photos of the bike.
Also I love the panhead vid u made. It literally is therapy watching u put her back together man!
@@DeathProofProductions thank u again
U A Tennessee Old Boy ! Me Outside Memphis 20 Mi East Where Is Your Shop Sir . Peace I Hope ;-))
I moved to the ozark national forest in arkansas about 10 years ago.
Harley seals don't last long. The primary cover front large o-ring leaked on my bike with only about 18,000 miles.
When I remove the cover I found that the shifter seal was leaking also. This is just one reason I'd never buy another Harley , there are many more reasons.
With my 1995 Harley Davidson fat boy look just like this?
Pretty much.
So what kind of problems would I have to have to change that ? Leaks?
Is New Orleans too far? 😂
Thank man !
What part of New Orleans.
Northshore in Hammond . Started on this to change shaft seal about 2 days ago , I’m in a good spot now. Almost to it lol
Good deal, feel free to reach out if you run into any problems.
Never use impacts on tight screws or bolts your asking for trouble.
On air impacts from years ago I would agree fully. Now days electric ones have variable speed triggers that let you can control the speed. Let's you use them as electric ratchets then torque when you hit bottom with a torque wrench . 30 years as a factory certified Harley mechanic made me fall in love with these when they cam out.
Don’t ever use impact tools on primary’s
Me and the techs I worked with at Bumpus Harley Davidson in Memphis always did it like that, never once had a comeback because of it. Been a factory certified Harley mechanic for close to thirty years and I have never had a issue with impacting off bolts. What's your reasoning for not using them.
why if I have to kick start my Harley why cant hse inpact to get hard bolts off and on?
@@DeathProofProductions ….i should have been more clear…off yes … on no