How to Replace Harley Twin-Cam Chain Tensioners {W/Out Special Tools!}
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- In this video, I show how to replace the twin-cam tensioners without using super special tools. I mean I do, myself on some things, but I give an alternative for everything and show how to do it. This is coming from a factory-certified HD Mechanic and I'm telling YOU to get adjustable pushrods!
The tensioner shoes I recommend
cycogasket.com...
20 years as a powersports tech with no HD experience. I'm learning something new. Thank you, sir. 110 ft Lbs threw me tho LOL
Are you sure I said ft lbs or inch lbs and if so what bolt was I talking about. I'm traveling right now away from my computer but if I said it wrong I need to fix it as soon as i get back. If you could let me know that would be a great help. Thanks
@@DeathProofProductions i heard inch pounds...Also, great video and thanks for sharing the knowledge👌
21:22 you corrected yourself in the video
Ok thanks for checking that for me I wouldn't want people to use ft lbs.
You would definitely be my trusted Harley guy if we were in the same area! You make it look easy and for you it may be. I would entrust it to a pro like yourself.
Thanks
I guess maybe I missed the explanation but why did you have to take the cams off of the cam plate?
This channel's potential is unlimited . Watching and understanding the work of a Pro is priceless. Thanks so much, this helps A LOT !
Thanks
i just bought a 2000 flhtc from the widow of a buddy. he passed about a year ago from cancer and the bike had been sitting for about 5 years. i have shovel and M8 but this is my first twin cam. what hydraulic pushrods should i use in a stock 88? thanks for all your videos
I like s&s myself but I'm sure the other brands are good. what year shovel you got. my first big twin that I built was a 1976 fxe.
@@DeathProofProductions my shovel is a 1971 flh that i've had since 1992. she's no trailer queen. she and i have been to every state east of WY.
gotta respect that me and my heratage have been to love here like my kids.
New Subscriber. Thanks for the video man, it was really good and to the point, just like I like 'em! A feller can tell you have done this a couple of times! I'm having Harley do this for me right now, and upgrading to the new cam plate and hyd tensioners, as well as the new oil pump. I have a 05 Electra Glide that has the big bore kit and 211 cams with 31K on it. I just bought the bike in August. I pulled the cam cover and mine were wore over half way. Look forward to going over all your videos!! God Bless!! Quick question, do you run your bike with oil that's completely full to the mark of the stick? I am getting a fair amount of oil in the air filter housing and gonna do a filter or catch can job to stop dumping oil on the top of my piston. Any favorites for that mod? Thanks again!!
With that age on the bike I would be looking at a breather gasket issue or the o ring for the oil pump has gotten old an leaking by. At that age and those miles it probably has set in the garage alot. That allows the seals and gaskets to get brittle and leak by because there not getting lubrication to keep them soft. At every 5000 mile service you should only have in the intake enough oil to get your finger barley wet. Also if your plugs don't have oil fouling than the pistons have very little to. I personally have 5 twincams that have 100k+ miles on them and they have very little carbon build up on them. I'm about to make a vid replacing top end gaskets on the 08 I will show the amount of carbon on the piston. I have a vid about the subject were I go into more detail. Let me know if there's any project that you need help with and I will make video showing how. Thanks for watching
@@DeathProofProductions Thank you!! My bike is still at the Harley shop, New River Harley Davidson. Went to pick it up Saturday, and on the 3rd check ride it stopped and would not start, stranding the mech a few miles from the shop. Waiting to hear what might have caused this. Hope it's not anything the mech forgot to do in the cam chest!! I'll take your advice and try the breather gasket before I do anything else. Thank you Sir, really appreciate what you do and sharing your knowledge!! Look forward to seeing your new video.
I wasn't looking forward to doing this, but now I'm feeling fine about it, maybe it's the Jack Daniels. Kidding aside, another great video.
Jack is good for elbow grease
Yep, I'm a " pretty decent mechanic" and Harley has ya so scared of this I was not looking forward to it , TILL NOW
A service manual and Dave's top notch instructional videos, not too much a mechanically inclined person can't do on a tc..some jobs require speciality tools though.
I do not have a garage, they are simply not available in the city I live (in Germany). My bike is parked outside on the street under the cover so my repairs depend on the weather conditions. I had to replace the bearings and the tensioner shoes on my FXDX 2000 (Clutch replacement and service and some wiring done already). Since it has rained a lot recently I used this time and have built my own press from few pieces of fittings, wood and an old 2t - hydraulic jack. The cost of the build was under 50EUR / 50$ and it took me a couple of hours only. I have built it on the kitchen table, no special tools required, only a drill. It fits behind my wardrobe in my room because I have no garage and thus no space issues :)
Having said that, I have used this press to remove the old ball bearings from the cam plate, pressing the new set in, pressing the race on the cam with no jims tools - used the old bearing to press against. Finally pressing the cam in the plate. Worked like a charm.
Thank you David for your inspiration, your support, for getting the Cyco Gaskets for me from USA to Germany and all your kind suggestions and Ideas.
Glad to help.
'04 FLHR, ~35K miles, single owner. Been cutting the oil filter open every oil change, checking for nylon particles. However, I know it's about time to change to tensioner shoes. Usually when I watch a YooToob video, it shows the best way to NOT do something. Yours was actually... inspiring... :))
Thanks muchly for the helpful tutorial!
Glade I could help.
Hey man , just got done replacing my cam chain tensioners on my 03 softail, all work was done following you and your videos, and it went flawlessly!!!!! I cannot express enough gratitude to you for your time and knowledge, Thank you so much!!! I wish I lived close to you, you would get any and all of my bike work!! I was gonna send you a couple of pics of the work getting done by me, but I couldn't find a email address for you. Anyhow, so grateful for your time!!!! Stay safe and God Bless you buddy!
John
Glad to help. On my homepage some were there is the channels email but my personal email is Davethom2004flstc@gmail.com love to see those pics.
Man, after watching this, im canceling my purchase of a twin cam heritage...i will keep my simple evolution 1340 thanks
Man! This information is soooo valuable! I have a hard time understanding instructions. Watching and executing is much easier for me. Thank you for putting this information out here. Into an 08 Crossbones at the moment. Typically an Evo guy but enjoying twin cams. Great info!!!
Glad it was helpful!
Just found your channel. I have a 2K Heritage that I bought in 06 as a total and put back together. I have never checked the tensioners ( I must be really lucky) or the original owner had them replaced. This thing had 45K when I got it and I have put on at least another 20K. Going to pull the cover before the season starts this year and see what is what. I will definitely replace the tensioners. Thanks for the video!
Thanks for the compliment.
Great job, I just changed my tensioners on my Kawasaki vulcan very easy compared to what you just did there, you'd think they would have a better design for tensioners they wouldn't wear out, always good to learn just in case.
If you have the time and skills you could build your own tool for the rear tensioner: th-cam.com/video/mp8mPy5YwzU/w-d-xo.html
Love the video man. I rode for 11 years with the police department and I'm about to buy my first true bike. I'm thinking about buying a 2006 Softtail from a guy I meet recently. Another good friend of mine lives in Georgia has a 2005 Softtail and he schooled me on the fact that the tensioners had to be replaced every so often. So I'm doing my homework before I make a purchase. I was a mechanic in the Army back in the day so I think I can tackle the job. Awesome info. Music was a little loud at times but I think I made out what you was saying. Keep up the good work and videos.
Thanks for the tip about the music were still learning. You can do it it's easy if you have trouble email me.
New sub here, would you recommend moving to the hydraulic tensioners with up graded oil pump for 2006 RK ? When I clicked thru your link for replacement pads it states up to 2005? Appreciate your vid , clear and concise, best of all ex HD tech! if you are going to recommend hydraulic which would you suggest he screaming eagle, feuling or SS? Thank you sir!
i don't know why it says 2005 but they work on your bike. if you decide to go with a hydraulic then all the brands are about the same, if it was me i would go with the one i could get at the best price.
Hey brother, I just want to ay thank you for sharing your knowledge on this.I did have harley davidso press my cams and put the secondary tensioner.I also went with the SS quickies for my next go round. Again thank you shes up and running now.
no problem, im glad your back in the wind.
Great video love all the tips and tricks you provided now I feel confident and doing this Job I do have a question what brand pushrods you running?
Keep them vids coming great content Thanks !!!
I run s&s but I have installed every brand you can think of in customer's bikes and there all good.
Awesome channel... one of the best on twin cam Harley Davidson motorcycles there is. Is the screamin eagle $550 hydraulic cam plate / oil pump upgrade worth doing or is it a waste of money when you can do $15 cyco gaskets? Really appreciate your opinion.
It really depends on someone's budget and how good they are with wrenching, even with my cyco shoes in both my twincam's I still check them at every 10k service. I've got about 12k on the shoes in my dyna and I'm gonna inspect them soon a make vid showing them.
as always no fluff gets to the meat and potatoes of the project keep up the great work I learn alot from your videos thanks
Thanks 👍
i have an 02 heritage with 25k miles and sometime soon i will have to do something. i can't believe HD couldn't have come up with a little something better than plastic like maybe a roller with bearing. thnx for the info and demo.
Bought my first Harley, 01 Dyna, looking to get all the info i can on upkeep. I dont have the book so its research research research time.
You came to right place I love dyna to. Anytime you need something just ask.
Great video Brother. I've done a few of these, always use Red loctite on cam & Crank bolts. But I have a question for you, what is the Reasoning behind the 15 ft lbs & backing off 360 before final torque? I do it , but would like to know your professional opinion why!! Thx again!!
When the twincam came out and they schooled us up about them I never thought to ask one of the guys why at the time. My thoughts on it though is to make sure that the sprockets are mated on the shafts perfectly flush so the torque sequence starts at dead zero giving the bolts the best chance at proper clamping force.
@@DeathProofProductions amen brother. I was thinking the same thing. Thx for getting back with me. You Rock.
Thank you for this video it has saved my ass big time. No need to do the oil pump alignment procedure? I guess if you dont remove it its not needed?
Yep
Another great video! I'm going to place an order from Cyco Gaskets soon. I'll tell them you sent me. Please keep the videos coming. I'll be watching. Thanks
Ten four.
I have just read all the comments below and learned a lot of useful information. The best place on YT when wrenching on your HD.
Did you end up getting the new damper for your clutch.
I got the BARNETT clutch pack. Primed in oil and ready for Installation.
God job.
Great video! You deserve many more subscribers.
Have a 06 HD Heritage Softail Classic with 14k miles. At some point I will need to tackle this job.
If I were you now is the time. I have one needs done with just under 14 grand. I’m not riding that bike till I do it. They say if it breaks and pieces block oil flow can kill motor.
Thanks I did the psycho shoes like you did I bought a 05 Road King 57,000 miles never been serviced they were at their limit almost metal on metal I did it myself at home and threw in some 203 Screamin Eagle cams runs good was thinking about doing hydraulic to it but it's mild improved stock so just gonna leave it. Now I know how to change them out no problemo
Good deal glad you cought in time, pretty easy job don't you think.
Yep like you said the exhaust is the pain in the butt. Need true duals would make it easier
I've been running my Twin Cam with stock tentioners since new in 03. Every 10 to 12 k I pull the cam cover and inspect the shoes. I intall new shoes around 20-25 k. H-D shoes definatly don't last that long though.
Very true.
So, today was the day to open her up and see how things look. It's 2003 FLHTCI, just turned over 26K miles, I'm probably the third owner. It took nearly three hours to get the exhaust apart, including time for PBlast and WD40 to penetrate some of the rustier stuff. Three header bolts came off easily enough--always gotta have one sonofabitch in a bunch. One nut took about an hour of teasing, soaking, and wrenching. The cross over header pipe was just ornery as it could be. That was probably another thirty minutes of disconnecting sections so I could twist the pipe enough to get some pBlast at the joint and finally got'r'dun.
Cam chest cover was easy to remove, once the foot pad and exhaust were removed. The outside tension pad was in much better condition than I expected but was worn down into a grove. It looks like it could probably go another 15K miles. While I didn't remove the cam plate to inspect the inside tensioner I could see that it was worn more than the outer pad and I think I see a crack developing along the side.
If I had the adjustable pushrods on hand I'd have gone ahead and removed the cam plate but I just didn't want to mess with it until I have what I need to do the job. After studying all the options, for days, and seeing how everything gets nickled and dimed to death I decided to splurge on the S&S 509C kit. It wasn't cheap, about $1,685 but almost everything is there. I'm 70 years old and this probably my last bike, may as well make her as good as I can, while I can!
I need a better torque wrench. What's that rig that your using? I still need to get the cam bearing remover/install kit and may get one of those timing gear jammers, as well. Hell, I'm about as excited as a 50 year old with a free Viagra, a company credit card, at a Las Vegas convention!
Hope the reassembly goes a bit faster than the breakdown. It would be nice to open and close on the same day.
It's a snap on tech wrench. It has ft lbs, inch lbs and Newton meters. I gotta say it's a good one been using it for 22 years with no issues. If the inside one is starting to crack on the edge it means it's getting bretal. The couple I have seen fail were from age not wear they get hard and then start coming apart. I also would consider getting a blind hole puller if your changing inner bearings instead of the after market puller just for those bearings. The blind hole puller has set of collets and you can use it for lots of other jobs I use a snap on CG 40 C with the bridge puller but you would be better getting the slide one to remove and install. Glad to see your staying on top of it.
@@DeathProofProductions Thanks, I'm guessing that this may be similar,
I don't do a lot wrenching, so much, just working on my own stuff. I started doing this sort of stuff back in the 60s and built a pretty good tool box over the decades. Then, someone broke into my garage and stole anything of value--I guess it was in 2006. Since then I bought some Harbor Freight "quality" to get by with. The HF torque wrenches are not quite up to the standard for motorcycle work but they are not too bad when working on big stuff.
There are a few Snap-on torque wrench offerings on ebay in the $300/$400 range. I'm gonna need a lot more beer before I can go there. Haha, but things can happen in life!
People talk all that shit about my half a bike . Girl bike get a real bike they say SPORTSTER... My big twins end up in the garage on the lift while I fix em. Why the Sportster GEAR ⚙️ driven cams. Yet to fail even with 146xxx and counting on this old 93 883 hugger Sportster. Got 90k on the 2002 xl1200c as well. Sportster Rock. People need to start respecting the Sportster
I started out on a hugger love them I still got my 1969 xlch. I look at bikes like tools each one is good at something and there all fun when using them for what there best at.
@@DeathProofProductions that's what's makes a true biker. Gotta like em all can tell the way ya talk you know how it is
Hey man thanks for the awesome videos, new to Harley and just finished replacing the shoes with cycos following this and i bought the tool so i didn't have to press cams. I'm about to put the outer chain and sprockets back on and want to make sure I'm understanding this correctly. As long as i start the sprockets in the chain with the dots facing as you did, and turn them so the crank sprocket lines up, then turn the camshaft so that it indexes it's sprocket I should be good? I just know the crank turns 2x for every turn of the cam and want to make sure there isn't a wrong way that the keys line up that could lead to disaster. Thank you
your good, as long as those timing marks line up before you put on it will be fine. I figured that out around 2001, when you work for a dealership you get paid book time not buy the hour so have to come up with ways to do things right but faster. I havn't put one top dead center since.
@@DeathProofProductions thank you for the quick reply. I got it back on but have one more question. When putting the plate back on, the outermost "tabs" of the oil pump that line it up with the crank must've turned ever so slightly to where it wouldn't slide on but I was able to turn it back with my finger and got it lined up and she went right on. I did not separate the pump from the plate. After hearing about timing and alignment of the oil pump and all that I want to make sure it's a non issue. I know I'm OCD about this stuff but I'm a firm believer in take care of her and she'll take care of you lol. Thanks again!
I can understand being concerned the first go round but your good. How long was the bike apart.
I cant tell if the bolt cutter bit is for real or sarcasm lol
No it's for real.
Thank you for taking time to make videos. What a great help before I do it myself.
Thanks
Great video. Did mine two years ago and used the shoes from Cyco Gaskets. Figured the "Stanyl polymide" shoes would have to be better than stock. Thanks for proving it. I was going to convert to hydraulic this winter, but going to stay with the springs and save that $800.00 and use it to fill up my gas tank {maybe]. Anyway I'm 71 and figure ole Double Barrel will probably outlast me. I subscribed, so keep those motion pictures coming.
Thanks for the complement.
Looks like you've done this before.
Yeah, you could say that. back when I worked for Bumpus h.d. My service manager told me I need to put a zipper on my cam chest as many times as I changed cams, I told him I'm testing them all to find the one that I like. I finally did.
QUESTION ,YOU SAID THERE WAS A BETTER TENSINOIR ,WHO SELLS IT ? YOUR VIDEOS ARE GREAT!
Cyco gaskets makes it. I've been running them since 17 in all my twincam's and have had great luck with them.
@@DeathProofProductions Thanks I checked, they don't sell the complete set just the pads, mine got chewed up!
the metal did to.
Appreciate the video so much, watched all the commercials! Thank you!
Thanks for watching the commercials helps alot.
Thanks Bro Great Video, My 02 LowRider 37K needs the tensioners. They look like the rear in the video. 20 years not bad.
Gary my buddies tell me to change now on my 03 lowrider and that bike only has 14 thousand miles. It’s my wife’s bike and she passed away last December. But them pieces could potentially wreck the motor. 37 thousand miles is very scary they say.
Great video brother. You're a kick-ass teacher 👍
Thank you.
Thanks for the video. My dad passed away recently and I just took ownership of his 2005 Ultra Classic. I also suffered a head injury that resulted in a TBI. Mine affects me more than I let on but having videos like this one help me tremendously. Thanks for the help!
im the same way i can hide it from people if there not around me all the time.
@@DeathProofProductions you definitely got me gunshy to ride this thing until I check this out
i cant speek for your condition but for me I can still ride my ass off. and for that I thank the lord.
@@DeathProofProductions I ride nearly every day and, while some days it hurts worse than others, a sore day on my bike is better than a comfortable day in a pickup truck
Harley Bad Cam😂. I love my EVO. From Russia with love.
Peace for all🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺
What would you say is the typical LABOR cost for installing the camshaft plate and tensioner kit? I don't have a press or any of the special tools required to complete this job.
Been waiting on this. Seen a few but one more is always better just to see how others do it. Ty sir.
Anything for the people.
Thanks for shooting straight. I've never done it but now that I've seen it there's nothing to it. Mine just failed on me a few days ago at the lonestar rally. Thank you for the info. I'm ready to ride as always. 05 FLHTCSE2
Do you recommend the cyco gaskets lifters? Who makes them?
I'm not sure. I can just say I'm impressed with there other products.
@@DeathProofProductions Thanks so much for the reply and the help. I'm looking at getting these products for my 2006 FLHTCUI, Quick Cam Change Twin Cam, 9905 (2 Shoes & 2 Pins), CY3996599, 9905T. Are these the right parts? I'm new to H-D but not mechanical repairs. The part numbers and descriptions on their site are a bit lacking in info. Oh, how exactly does that tool work?
So far your the best on you tube for bike maintenance my man ! We Ty
Thank you! Great video, helped me get back on the road with good tensioners.
Need mine done 01 Heritage 20 000km wish you lived near me!!
We're do you live I figure since you said km it's not in th states.
@@DeathProofProductions Ont
Yeah that's a little far.
I’ve been turning wrenches for over 50 years primarily on cars , truck and tractors. Never had schooling just the way I was raised I guess. I really enjoy your vids there is no bullshit just facts. I just started building the latest Harley engines and in the distant past I built a few shovels and several iron head sportsters. I like how you get into the nitty gritty on the best ways to do things. Keep at it brother thanks!
Thanks, really appreciate it.
Thank you for doing this video. For my third Harley, I have my 2003 Wide Glide. I just found out about this tensioner garbage that H-D pulled. I am selling my pride and joy now, because I refuse to throw money to greedy corporate idiots. This is a shame. Wish I had kept my 98 with the 113 El Bruto!
Thanks for the compliment on the vid.
Is okay to reuse the cam bearing in the cam plate after pressing the cams out?I am doing this job on my 2005 springer classic and I enjoy the heck out of your videos. You keep it simple.
Check it for roughness by spinning it if it has none your good.
Could you just replace the front tensioner without disassembling the cam chest. My front one is worn but the rear one is still good.
Yes i replace just the front all the time.
@@DeathProofProductions Can it be done without removing any components. Just pull the snap ring and pull?
You have to take off the chain.
@@DeathProofProductions Thanks for the response.
Haha, that's wonderful, you had me laughing. It reminds of learning Algebra, the teacher puts a problem up on the board, explains how to solve it, asks if you have any questions... then erases the board and the solution, puts up a new equation and then says, "solve this"! So, I'm guessing that it probably took you a couple of hours to do the job? I'll plan on about two days but I think I can do it.
Those little power ratchets are a great tool, same with the power screwdriver.
Are you a body builder or a power lifter?
That's ok how long you take but I promise there is nothing to it. Just go slow and it will be easy.
I strength train. It's a habit from my martial arts days but a ant what I once was.
I like your practical approach to changing the cam chain tensioners on the 88. But you need to either turn off the fd-up music you’ve edited into the video or at least turn it down so we can hear what the f you’re saying! Otherwise it’s a great video! Just sayin!
Thanks for the feed back, it helps us improve on the vids.
Just pulled my cover for a 10k inspection, barely any ware on em. Look like the day I put em in. Had to come back here for tq pattern tho. Once again thanks for all the help. P.S are you still going to be making shirts with your logo on em? Still dieing to buy a few haha
Yeah should be starting with shirts in a week or to. Been a little behind because of this shoulder surgery.
I just want to thank you for your video. I bought a 1999 FLHPI last year with 54000mi on it. It had been sitting for 10hrs. I’m an ok mechanic but had never been in a Harley motor. You gave me the confidence to replace my tensioners and Inner bearings. Mostly because you speak my language. I’m in the NC mountains. Most of the videos want you to have all these special tools. Thanks again man. You’re alright
you know the old saying poor people have poor ways. I learned along time ago when it comes to wrenching it doesn't mater how you get it done as long as the result is the same. glad the video was helpful.
😉👍, cool watching
Thanks
On my 99' FLHRCI TC, Do I need to also change the pushrod tubes to when I install adjustable pushrods? What adjustable pushrods do you recommend?
You don't have to replace the tubes but it does make it easier to adjust. As far as a brand I recommend, I use s&s for almost everything I do to my bike's but that's just the brand that was biggest in the early 90's when I got in to this stuff. On customer's bikes I've installed just about every brand and I have never noticed one being better than the other. I would just find the set at the best price and slap them puppys in there.
I'm thinking about changing out my push rods on my '02 FLHTCUI. What brand adjustable push rods do you recommend?
To be honest there all about the same. I use s&s but that's just what I have been buying for years.
Love this video, Just bought my fathers 2004 Road king. I have a 2018 King but I am really enjoying riding the 04. the bike has 65000 miles on it but at 35000 miles the tensioners went out on him in Iowa and we live in PA. He didn't know where the rattling sound was coming from but he road it home. His MC mechanic kept his old tensioners for a display in his shop. The repair hit his pocket pretty hard. Since I have this bike I am ready to dive into the cam chest thanks to your video. I would really lone to purchase that tool to remove the tensioner without pressing out the cams but I cant find it anywhere...it seems like whoever makes it just stopped making them. I guessing I'm going to harbor freight to get a cheap press that I don't have room for in my garage. Hoping you know where I can find this tool.
Big twin motorcycles out of Germany might still have some in stock. Check with them and see if they ship to the states. There made in china so I'm thinking it's a supply chain issue. If you get the press you can use it for alot of other jobs and the tool is about as much as the press.
Thanks..yes t thought I might want to switch cams out someday. I would still love that tool. I know I'm gonna be doing my neighbors and cousins bike also.
Love all your videos thank you so much. I got a question: i dont have to press out the cams just for changing the shoes right? Once the rear tensioner is unloaded i can just change it without doing anything to the cams? All i want to do is just the 2 cyco tensioners thats all. Thanks again
If you have the special tool for the rear tensioner than u don't have to press them out otherwise you have to.
I have a 2000 FLSTS and it has a cam position sensor. Can the cam chest cover be removed and just tied over out of the way to do this process?
Thanks for the video. 😉👍
Yes.
Ok. Just cut my pushrods (little stressful first time). Rotated tire until rods spun freely. Seems to be ok. Does it matter How far the lifters are up or down at this point ? Wants make sure before I remove cam plate
Sorry for delayed response been tied up helping a buddy on his bike. It really doesn't at this point, Just make sure you use the tool I showed in the video to hold them in place. Then they won't fall in the cam chest.
The only thing i worry about is getting the timing marks correct. What type of adjustable push rods do you recommend?
The other way is to turn the crank until the flat part is lined up with the line on the cam support plate. That puts it a top dead center, then put the sprockets on. All brands of push rods are about the same but I would get the tubes than are designed for them, makes it easier to adjust them.
Check this out when you have time. I think we could handle that
Just last night I swapped out the pads. Mine aren’t as loose on the pin as your, not sure if I over peened the pin.
They still pivot, so I’m thinking there going to wear in?
Otherwise all else is going as planned. Keep up the good work.
Happy to see you got it done with no problems ,Your right it will loosen as it wears in.
Jus found your channel ..love the videos seem like a good man brother ...please keep videos coming subscriber for life!!!
Excellent video sir. How would you go about changing the inner tensioner if you were not changing cams, you couldn't rotate it down with the chain in the way. Thanks.
They make a tool that allows it to be removed without pressing out the cams but it's expensive and hard to find. Harbour freight sells a press just right for doing that job for around 50$ or so and you have something that can do other jobs you run across, everything from the lawnmower to the wife's grocery getter.
I want to rebuild my tensioners (hydraulic) and primary chain tensioner shoes, where do you get them? Your video was great.
In a few weeks we will have them for sale on our merch page, along with other products from cyco gaskets. If you get them there, make sure you pick up a shirt or a beer koozie to help out the channel. If you get them elsewhere, make sure they're cyco brand. Thanks for the compliment on the vid.
Boss man can I just bring you my bike to do this? I’ll pay you obviously but I trust you more than anyone I know from just seeing all your videos!
I don't mind doing it but how far are you away from Clinton Arkansas.
Thx I wish you were easier for the algorithm to find for me but I found it all the same cheers.
Just gotta say thanks
Glad to be able to help.
Excellent hands on Video. Great job. I am now a new subscriber. Thx. 👍👍👏👏😁😁
Thanks
Thanks for your response. I purchased the replacement parts. Now I have a couple questions. Will each push rod take only one cut each? What is the tightening specs for each push rod?
It should take only one cut, every brand has a different thread pitch that will affect the specs for the pushrods.
Thank you for a awesome video !! I have a question is there a reason you remove the cams to change out the tensioners ? Again thank you for this video.
The rear tensioner's spring pressure can't be completely unloaded with the rear chain in the way. Harbor freight sells a press just right for the job for 69 bucks and you could use it for alot of other stuff as well. Send me a email to davethom2004flstc@.gmail.com so I can send some pics of it to show how compact it is.
On your adjustable pushrod video, you adjusted 3.5 Revolutions and on this video you say 4 Revolutions. If screaming eagle adjustable pushrods are used, how many turns? Harley adjustable pushrods are 24 threads per inch. S&S are 32 threads per inch so S&S instructions call for 4 Revolutions. I have a bike with Screaming Eagle adjustable pushrods so I'd like to know what you're thinking. Thanks Man
At 24 t.p.i. it should be about 3 turns. Plunger travel on the lifter is just under a 1/4 inch so at .042 per turn three should put you at half the plunger travel. That's what your shooting for is to be about half the plunger travel.
This video is a world class tutorial that I plan to follow closely. Many Thanks.
Thanks, Glad to be able to help.
Great video
Thanks
EXCELLENT VIDEO INFO!!!! NEW SUB. ALWAYS THUMBS UP FROM THE 641...
Awesome, thank you!
Great content and delivery.
My only suggestion would be to lose the music or only use it when you aren’t talking…it’s rather distracting.
Other than that, your video person does a nice job…your fortunate to have a a good cameraman/editor.
Thanks for the suggestion. The camara man/editor is my son he will appreciate your thoughts.
Brother very cool,info was great. I subbed. I have to do this to my wife’s 03 lowrider. Only has less than 14 thousand miles. This is her iPad I’m using it. Thanks for sharing this important process. This is the third one I’ve watched and the better one. I’m confident I can handle it now. Thank you
Feel free to email at Davethom2004flstc@gmail.com if during the process you have any questions. More than glad to help.
Nice plain simple talking and agreat video... But not everyone got a tool for that at back tensioner...
Thanks for the compliment. If someone doesn't have access to a press they can pick up a small one at harbor freight for about 75 dollars or they can take it to a shop and have them press the cams out.
Did you change them without pulling the rockers and lifters? Just curious, we are getting ready to do my Son's 2004 RK and thought we had to take the pushrods and lifters out.
If you run adjustable push rods than you don't have to remove any of that. If you don't have them I recommend getting them. To remove the old ones just cut them with bolt cutters.
@DeathProofProductions , gotcha and thank you for the reply.
What a Great video, replacing my tensioners now on 2003 softail(11,000 miles), QUESTION? Do you have to take oil pump off the cam plate? I have alll the tensioner tools not to, just want to make sure it will be ok to reinstall while on the camplate? I trust your judgment, please let me know!! Thanks , John
No you don't have to most of the time I don't.
Thank you so much for the answer!!! Keep the videos comin!! Great stuff!!
Hi all. How long should this take a motorcycle mecanic...billing?
They bill about 3.2 hours.
I don’t know could be me but it feels like the sprocket bolts could easily go more than the 24 & 34 ft. lbs. I just feel like I may have done something wrong, but I believe I followed your video pretty closely.
If you did the 3 step process that was in the vid then your good. If over torqued you loose the clamping affect of the bolts.
@@DeathProofProductions great, thanks for such a quick reply.
So is this not as big of an issue on the twin cam 96 as it is on the 88? I’m at 26,000 miles on my 96 and wondering if I should do the replacement
They went to a different setup on the 96 to address the issue.
I must be missing something. Do I remove the push rods before removing the sprockets? @3:22 it appears that the push rods are installed.
You can do it both ways. If you remove the cam plate they just drop into the cam chest, then it's actually easier to loosen them. When I made that vid we were still pretty new and I should have explained that better.
HD was retarded for using that design, metric bikes use gear driven systems. Either way I replaced mine with a hydraulic tensioner system and kept it moving. Always replaced cam bearings please.
what do you mean always replace cam bearings.
Maybe stupid question but do you have to take cams off just to change tensioners ? (W/tool)
If you have the right tool you dont.
How did he do this without pulling the lifters and push rods? Apparently he just skips over this important part.
In the vid after I loosen the exhaust, I say that I already removed my adjustable push rods and then I talk about how I keep the lifters from falling in the cam chest. I didn't have to take the rocker box apart since I have adjustable push rods, then I recommend getting them after I talk about using bolt cutters to remove the factory ones.
Pardon me, but i'm trying to listen to you talk which is hard and distracting with that annoying music playing in the background.
Yeah, that was one of our earlier video's we decided to stop using music for that very reason.
In the beginning of your video, the push rods are not in the bike. When you pull everything out , the push rods are still in it and later in your video the push rods are out.
This vid was filmed while I was working on other things and filming those project's. Just wanted to show how to do this.
Great video. Very informative. I am about to do this to my 03 Ultra classic.
64 first harley thanks so much for the tips your a legend
Thanks for the compliment
Hi! question ,is the retaining plate supposed to keep both shafts in place, I put mine on but it only seems to keep one from moving,made s sure te plate is on correct tit just doesn't catch the lip of the cam shaft,is it possible the plate wore down?
The plate is there to keep the bearings from walking out. The cam in the roller bearing can come out, it's locked in place when the sprocket is bolted on it.
Thanks your great!
How can you tell that both cams are at the bottom of the lobe to remove push rods? I think I'm confused.
Both cams don't have to be, this is a pro tip but the only thing that matters is the one your working on is at the bottom when your installing . If your removing them it doesn't matter.
Nice job brother! And very well explained also! Thank you
Thank you.
@DeathProofProductions I NEED HELP PLEASE. I followed the video step by step, and when i put everything back together, I hear a loud ticking noise when the engine idles, when i rev the ticking sounds louder. I don't know whats wrong. I re-aligned everything and I triple checked that it was all aligned. I made sure I followed every step exactly I have taken the bike apart 3 TIMES and done every step. Lubricated every important pieces. I need help PLEASE. I don't know whats wrong. My bike never did this before.
Do you have adjustable push rods and how long did it set before you got it put back together.
@@DeathProofProductions the pushrods are original, they are non adjustable, they are in the correct designated position the intake and exhaust.
@@DeathProofProductions All the parts are original parts, I made sure the intake and exhaust lifters are in the right spot, they are non adjustable. The one thing I noticed when I did take apart the bike was that the crank shaft where the oil pump is inserted got slightly worn, and it wasnt like that before. When I installed the oil pump I made sure I did the oil pump alignment correctly but there is no way in knowing if the oil pump is correctly aligned. My only lead is that.
@@DeathProofProductions I feel like it has to do with the oil pump alignment but I have done it 3 times and noticed the crank shank and where the oil pump connects into the engine ( the little hole on the left ) had a little bit of wear. I dont know how to fix this problem. I made sure I did the alignment correctly, but I dont know how to check if it is aligned once I align the oil pump.
It sounds like your lifters have bled down no worries they will pump up it just takes a little time with it running. Don't be afraid of it ticking it won't hurt nothing.