Hope y'all enjoyed this one, if there are any tests you want me to do in the overclocking video then just drop them down below. *Edit I made a type on the BG3 graph and acceidentally swapped the names of the 9950x and 9800x3d, I just blurred out the names, results are all the same regardless. 9800x3d in on top.
I think your cyberpunk thing may be screwy, could just be the area you are testing it or the in game benchmark, but out of all the reviews today and yours is the only one that even kept it close ;o
Maybe undervolting/underclocking the entire 9000 series platform on an A620 board from ASrock and fine tuning. Another benchmark could be the snappiness of the system using Inkscape (Open source Vector Program) with an SVG with a lot of nodes. And the same test with Adobe Illustrator, if you can, please. Please use a fresh Windows install. Greetings from Chiapas, México (Edit was: the word notes for the proper one which is nodes)
For education purposes I'd like to see how FCLK and UCLK each scale (by going backwards a good deal) with all other settings fixed. I've been told and shown by channels such as this that going over a certain memory bandwidth (6200-6400) isn't worth it because the memory controller (UCLK) has to regress to 2:1 ratio, but I haven't been shown what that regression does at a fixed point - So: Not a full suite of tests, but maybe one synthetic and one gaming FPS which involves UCLK (Memory controller) isolation scaling at 6000MT / 2000Mhz Infinity Fabric With a fixed 3000Mhz(x DDR=6000MT) Memory speed and 2000Mhz Fabric Speed: We can infer the performance cost of the 2:1 regression by comparing a 3000Mhz (1:1 memory to controller ratio) memory controller vs a 1500Mhz (2:1 memory to controller ratio) FCLK (Infinity Fabric) isolation scaling at 6000MT / 3000Mhz Memory controller With a fixed 3000Mhz(x DDR=6000MT) Memory speed and 3000Mhz Controller speed: We can infer the performance benefit of maxing out the Infinity Fabric by comparing 2000Mhz Fabric vs a 1600Mhz Fabric manual underclock This could better explain the reasoning why 8000MT DDR5 is fools gold on AM5, at least with the current I/O die used on both Zen 4 and 5, and demonstrate if it would be worth a Zen5+ I/O die upgrade for AMD next year or if they should just move along to Zen 6.
Would like to see a simple 5.6Ghz 56x multiplier + PBO + CO overclock. Seems to see several other reviewers easily reach this with only a +100mv to the Vcore voltage.
The whole thing that makes Tech Yes City so awesome, is he does his own thing. The things that have made him and his channel so damn fun to watch, and how he does not let things slip threw the cracks. His unbiased opinion and tests are just that. Following the road that is untraveled, Tech Yes City Madman! Love it!
I saw the GN review where they still had the 2700 from which I upgraded to the 5800X3D. Seeing the performance boost of 100-150% was soooo hart warming :)))
You need to check you CP2077 test.. all the other reviews show almost/around 10% increase in performance from 7800 to 9800. Maybe your test scenario wasn't cpu intensive?
Because it’s fake 😂😂😂 like how can people even believe AMD, guys these are companies if intel dies we will see the AMD do the same thing intel did years ago, marginal increases in performance same core count, and worse temps 😂😂😂😂
@JoeL-xk6bo if you need a specific circumstance for it to perform better then its not a much better chip. In other words if you have the 7800x3d already, its not worth it to upgrade
I've been watching you since I was in the 6th grade trying to build a gaming pc off a 150$, now I'm a 1st yr in college, it's great to see that you still make videos, since I remembered who the king of deals were
Thanks for yhe video+1 from me. One suggestion: if you don't want to do extrnsive game testing in cpu bound areas, then just focus on other stuff that is not covered by others. Like you said input latency, snappiness and also resizable bar and overclocking settings. Gamers nexus and hw umboxed already tortured sooo many games. We know the info ;) Or if you really want to give buyers advice, pair it with a regular 4070 super or 7800xt normal mobo and ram that most of the people buy and show them what they can expect. Very little people do this...
I would love to see CPU reviews with GPUs that normal human beings have, such as the ones you mention. I have a 7900x with a 7800XT and I'm curious to see whether I would gain anything by getting the 9800X3D, as I don't need 12 cores anymore, but no one is doing that...
CP2077 in-game benchmark doesn't really stress the CPU the same way the actual game do. Go to Dogtown and drive around. That's a more realistic & accurate way of benchmarking CPUs in the game.
It wouldn't be because the crowd density and number of npcs wouldn't be the same when you load into the game. At least the benchmark, it is exactly the same every time it runs. Also, there's random stuff that happens in game so it wouldn't be a test that gives a consistent sample
Nice video! I wanted to ask if this CPU is snappy as older generations of INTEL for example. Really love how real you are and you went to the stream of Frame Chasers. Im waiting for more videos of you with the 9800x3d because i want a CPU that is very good in gaming and also fast in everyday use without lags, I don’t mind productivity i just want a good CPU if im playing a game and i want to alt-tab to something else not to lag or anything bad. Used to have a 5800x and i had some small problems and i switched to 13600k and im very happy but looking forward to upgrade in the near future i dont mind brands if INTEL suits me i would buy INTEL if AMD suits me i would go with AMD
@techyescity - You might want to add these two games when you do w10/w11 comparison. A plagues tale 2 and RDR2, i saw another youtube that did a w10/w11 comparison, and every game was within margin of error, but these 2 games however had massive swings in favor of W11
Perfectly in line with you. Less efficiency, but good performance uplift, especially in productivity and on the 0.1 and 1% lows, and also good temperatures due to the different nature of the implementation of the 3d v-cache. Good job AMD, now we need to wait for the price drop :)
Yesterday, in utah Facebook marketplace place i got a corsair vengeance prebuilt (ryzen 7 and 3070) a monitor, chair and keyboard mouse and headset all razor for 700 bucks. With conservative prices on everything else but the pc i paid like 400-450 on the pc itself.
Personal ick to see reviewers touch contact pins on tech products. Thanks for the review. Rare to see reviews with sweet spot speed and lowest CL for RAM for some reason.
So Windows 10 and Windows 11 24h2 (or what eva required one), results in the same? So Windows 10 is not affected by the performance issue :O? Only asking as i dont want to use w11.
Great video ❤ was wondering if you could test the monster hunter beta since it seems to be bottlenecking cpus or it might be something else bottlenecking it, your experience may shed some light on what's going on with that game.
First off thanks for the video, and being willing to do a indepth long term evaluation, because as much as I like building computers I am getting tired of having to build 2 home systems and buy a personal laptop, so I can game on the go. I very much miss the days when one CPU could be used for both, I am hoping one of these chips are going to be built with the 3D cashe is under the time entire core sets, though I do wonder if that would be to much heat build up, yes even though they flipped the cores and mem.
welp got a 780x3d early this year through the micro center bundle but mannnnn, I told myself I wouldn't upgrade but jeez this performance boost is just so good.
Hi Brian, awesome work, can you try to undervolt it and set a fixed clock frequency and how does it reflect in terms of power consumption and performance gain/loss
Which one runs cooler? You always give temperature information but not today? I'm thinking of air cooling and would like to know which one would be better for that and I don't overclock.
A bit late to comment on this video, but i hope you see this. I managed to get my hands on a 9800x3d on launch, i’m in the process of buying the ram for the platform, i’m thinking of going for 6000 cl30 2x16g. My question is: do xmp or expo really change something? I know that each are tailored to each manufacturer, but atm i have an am4 platform with xmp ram and it runs great. The kit i was looking at is the teamgroup tcreate expert 2x16g as it is rather low profile and won’t interfere with my peerless assassin. Thank you!
In our country, the 9800X3D costs $120 more than the 7800X3D. Do yall think the performance gains is worth the price increase? Ugrading from a ryzen 5 3600 btw...
No, keep in mind to see a 10-15% gain like all these videos you would need to be gaming at 1080P low settings on a high end GPU like a 4090, which is not realistic for most, these are CPU benchmark conditions. At 1440P and 4K high setting these two CPU 's would be roughly equal except in a handful of games. The 9800X3D might have a tiny bit more longevity, but I would suggest not enough to consider seriously.
The increase from your system to a 5700x3d is indefinitely higher than the added bonus from 5700x3d to am5. 5700x3d does not use more than 120w under full load, keep the a320. Plus, 180 whatever the change vs a completely new, pricy system. Invest the difference from the cpu alone into a new gpu and 32gb of 3600 cl16 memory, its gotten almost cheap these days.
5500 cpus are great value for those boards, just make sure to update the bios before switching! A rx 6600 gpu or similar is a perfect fit for that system
@auturgicflosculator2183 yeah no way im going 8 cores on this board... probly would do a 5600 something, get a good psu and i have a 3070 from the mining boom that i kept so i will rehash it.
Thank you Brian God Bless you ! I have a 7800 X3D with a 7900XTX, I am curious if the 7900XTX Arous is good for video rendering compared to the RTX 4080 ?
This seems to be a CPU for gamers who have RTX 4090s but want to play everything at a paltry 1080p ancient monitor? The fact is, for games, you would do better to get a cheaper processor (like the 7800x3d) and save the difference for a better monitor and play at 1440p or 4k. Maybe get a 5800x3d but save that £300 towards a better graphics card.
Should be better fps, ipc, less stutters/microstutters in gaming. I noticed even going to 12700KF then 12900KF I got rid of 9600k's gaming issues in cpu heavy scenarios, 9800X3D should be a wow moment upgrade.
@@MrBoombast64 Originally a 2080TI but recently got a 4070 super, which made it obvious I was now facing CPU bottlenecks. I managed to get a 9800X3D on hold at Microcenter, luckily since they are now sold out everywhere.
Im running vr and iracing. Both alot of cpu. Now running a 7800x3d, i think this update wil help with the 1% lows and some more power running vr. Even if its hige settings.
Hello Sir Brian, Could you do the test with latency like 10900k ? also could remind me what security patch you remove for better speed for old chips please?
Overclock it ,undervot it,to much voltage. use this board ,test this ram,change the timings (silicon lottery) we are never happy.. at least we have something we can finally upgrade to. Thank youTech yes city for all your testing i just want to GAME!!!!
as a observation, other reviewers had very different results on cyberpunk, perhaps the motherboard did something here? seems to be the case for power consumption too
it looks ok, but that more power thing kinda sucks, maybe under-clock it to same as 7800x3d and see if it's faster and less power. It'll be perfect for those gamers who want every single fps though, cheers.
So I understand its best to test cpus in 1080p but I feel like not enough testing is done at 1440p and 4k,now I get the reason why its not done but there are people who would like to see what kind of performance uplift is gained. Especally on games with heavy rt and path tracing where every frame counts. I plan on heading to MC today and getting one of these to replace my 7800x3d. pretty excited.
it's not tested in higher resolutions because basically even at 1440p it's all nearly the same when talking about these top end cpus. So these test are more about how the CPU will perform for you in the future. Unless you are PRO gamer and actually playing at 1080p. You could get 12700k for third of the price and will perform basically the same in 1440p and higher with 4090, and most ppl don't have 4090 so...
@@H31MU7what intel cpu, and also I have the 7800X3D and I will skip the 9800X3D, feels disappointingly marginally better, and I will probably wait for the 9950X3D as from what I’ve read from leaks, this generation that cpu will beat the lower cost 9800X3D
@ tbh you need super good cooling for that monster, the ytb channel frame chasers talks on his videos about this a lot, you can watch him and see maybe his videos help you out to find some stabile settings, because I’m telling amd also has a lot of stability issues, before I had the 3600x ryzen 5 cpu and it was decent but it didn’t have as many issues with stability as it does now
at higher than 1080 the bottleneck is the gpu, same as 4k, at 1080p the limit is your cpu, at higher resolutions the 1 and 0.1% lows are basically responsability of the cpu, this is why reviews for cpus are done at 1080p, with sometimes one or two games at higher resolutions
9800X3D is looking tempting, might cave down the road. I like that the cousin 12900KS is on the chart feel 12900KF 4090 is still going strong for what I play. Am still curious if the 9950X3D will get the 2 ccd 3dvcache right or if the 9800X3D is just better for gaming still for most people.
Guess this will be a new undervolt king. still, as i play capped @ 90 fps, i guess tje extra frames won't apeal to me until next 3d chip. The cooling improvement is useful though😊
If your pc is good enough to display and has no problem to do some task I dont think you need to upgrade PC, better invest money into something promising (unless youre competitive gamer who really relies on high FPS and smoothness)
I think you have the 9800X3D and 7800X3D, wrong way around on the Balder's Gate 3 graph. Also, apparently the best RAM with 'AMD' 9800X3D is 6000MHz, as it works with the system better.
The funny thing is when we see the balder's gate 3 results, he doesn't talk about it. Like everything is normal. As for the 6200 ram speed, I also though that 6000 was the sweet spot for ryzen at the moment and that speed and cl doesn't matter much for x3d chips.
FPS and temperature is better for 9800X3D but power efficiency is poor after 4.8Ghz. Is there a way to limit the clockspeed at 4.8 so that 9800X3D can also have a good power efficiency? Can we enter the bios and set the power wattage limit to maybe 55W?
i cant remember which one, but i think bitwit did a pbo -30, and he got some crazy good results, lower temps about 15C drop and about 40-50W power decrees.
hello sir , i wanna ask u something , i have a GIGABYTE RX570 gaming mi , i remember exactly 11 months ago i was watching youtube on my pc and all of a sudden fans started going full speed , i restarted the pc but no display even since , tried all of the easy troubleshooting methods like cleaning gpu and applying new thermal paste but nothing worked it's just a black screen , i got a GTX670 PE for 40$ , i tried to flash the bios of my RX570 so i plugged both ( displaying on the GTX) and ran the flashing program on MS DOS but the RX570 is just not detected , is there any fix i can try ? and thank you ♥
Hi @techyescity. My personal experience is as follows... The new fastest gaming cpu is good but... When enduser has 1440p and etc. max graphics settings the fps is very close compared to all cpus. That is the real scenario that is not often mentioned. Ofcourse fastest cpu is fastest and newer is better most times. 😃🤗😇
I think the matter with CP77 is that you're running into a GPU bottleneck at 1080p high settings. 250 fps is already a lot even for a 4090, the only way you can squeeze out more is by lowering the resolution or settings which will then show the actual difference between the CPUs. That said, it's absurd how fast CPUs are these days, causing a 4090 to bottleneck at 1080p.
The speed doesn't matter, only thing matter is keeping it 1:1, if U can get 6400 or 6600 at 1:1, that's even better. They keep saying 6000 is the sweet spot is because at 6000 speed, it can guarantee 1:1
Hope y'all enjoyed this one, if there are any tests you want me to do in the overclocking video then just drop them down below.
*Edit I made a type on the BG3 graph and acceidentally swapped the names of the 9950x and 9800x3d, I just blurred out the names, results are all the same regardless. 9800x3d in on top.
I think your cyberpunk thing may be screwy, could just be the area you are testing it or the in game benchmark, but out of all the reviews today and yours is the only one that even kept it close ;o
do a LatencyMon test, also Throne and Liberty benchmark ,compare vs 7700x or 5800x
Maybe undervolting/underclocking the entire 9000 series platform on an A620 board from ASrock and fine tuning.
Another benchmark could be the snappiness of the system using Inkscape (Open source Vector Program) with an SVG with a lot of nodes. And the same test with Adobe Illustrator, if you can, please.
Please use a fresh Windows install.
Greetings from Chiapas, México
(Edit was: the word notes for the proper one which is nodes)
For education purposes I'd like to see how FCLK and UCLK each scale (by going backwards a good deal) with all other settings fixed. I've been told and shown by channels such as this that going over a certain memory bandwidth (6200-6400) isn't worth it because the memory controller (UCLK) has to regress to 2:1 ratio, but I haven't been shown what that regression does at a fixed point - So:
Not a full suite of tests, but maybe one synthetic and one gaming FPS which involves
UCLK (Memory controller) isolation scaling at 6000MT / 2000Mhz Infinity Fabric
With a fixed 3000Mhz(x DDR=6000MT) Memory speed and 2000Mhz Fabric Speed:
We can infer the performance cost of the 2:1 regression by comparing a 3000Mhz (1:1 memory to controller ratio) memory controller vs a 1500Mhz (2:1 memory to controller ratio)
FCLK (Infinity Fabric) isolation scaling at 6000MT / 3000Mhz Memory controller
With a fixed 3000Mhz(x DDR=6000MT) Memory speed and 3000Mhz Controller speed:
We can infer the performance benefit of maxing out the Infinity Fabric by comparing 2000Mhz Fabric vs a 1600Mhz Fabric manual underclock
This could better explain the reasoning why 8000MT DDR5 is fools gold on AM5, at least with the current I/O die used on both Zen 4 and 5, and demonstrate if it would be worth a Zen5+ I/O die upgrade for AMD next year or if they should just move along to Zen 6.
Would like to see a simple 5.6Ghz 56x multiplier + PBO + CO overclock. Seems to see several other reviewers easily reach this with only a +100mv to the Vcore voltage.
The whole thing that makes Tech Yes City so awesome, is he does his own thing. The things that have made him and his channel so damn fun to watch, and how he does not let things slip threw the cracks. His unbiased opinion and tests are just that. Following the road that is untraveled, Tech Yes City Madman! Love it!
even if being incorrect?
@@b44dsss that is a rabbit hole question. Am I correct? or not?
Thing I loved that u mentioned was power efficiency sweet spot very helpful information to know
Looking at the thermal paste on bryan's finger, i flashed back to all of my builds in the past
I'm still rocking the 5800X3D :) great CPU no need for an upgrade. my next stystem will be a high performance mini pc
when I built my 5800x3d, I tap it and said "This baby will last for years"
I saw the GN review where they still had the 2700 from which I upgraded to the 5800X3D. Seeing the performance boost of 100-150% was soooo hart warming :)))
Im also rocking a 5800x3d. no need for upgrade! :)
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@@cv507???
You need to check you CP2077 test.. all the other reviews show almost/around 10% increase in performance from 7800 to 9800. Maybe your test scenario wasn't cpu intensive?
It's because of the windows version.
If he uses the built-in benchmark this is true, pretty much any area in the game with many NPC's will be harder on the CPU.
he used the built in benchmark, which is not very CPU heavy, even intel CPU's keep up with the 7800X3D in the canned benchmark.
Because it’s fake 😂😂😂 like how can people even believe AMD, guys these are companies if intel dies we will see the AMD do the same thing intel did years ago, marginal increases in performance same core count, and worse temps 😂😂😂😂
@JoeL-xk6bo if you need a specific circumstance for it to perform better then its not a much better chip.
In other words if you have the 7800x3d already, its not worth it to upgrade
I've been watching you since I was in the 6th grade trying to build a gaming pc off a 150$, now I'm a 1st yr in college, it's great to see that you still make videos, since I remembered who the king of deals were
your baldurs gate 3 slide at 5:18 looks to be a little messed up, i suspect you've got the 9800x3d mixed up with the 9950x
Tech yes loving!
Thanks for yhe video+1 from me. One suggestion: if you don't want to do extrnsive game testing in cpu bound areas, then just focus on other stuff that is not covered by others. Like you said input latency, snappiness and also resizable bar and overclocking settings. Gamers nexus and hw umboxed already tortured sooo many games. We know the info ;)
Or if you really want to give buyers advice, pair it with a regular 4070 super or 7800xt normal mobo and ram that most of the people buy and show them what they can expect. Very little people do this...
Agree, those channels mentioned have dat market cornered
I would love to see CPU reviews with GPUs that normal human beings have, such as the ones you mention. I have a 7900x with a 7800XT and I'm curious to see whether I would gain anything by getting the 9800X3D, as I don't need 12 cores anymore, but no one is doing that...
@alexg9155 I agree. For your info in one or two titles kit guru showed off 7900xtx, still not a budget card but it's something else than 4090...
Solid advice 🙌 especially about pairing it with a more mid range gpu, personally I’ve noticed yes.
CP2077 in-game benchmark doesn't really stress the CPU the same way the actual game do. Go to Dogtown and drive around. That's a more realistic & accurate way of benchmarking CPUs in the game.
It wouldn't be because the crowd density and number of npcs wouldn't be the same when you load into the game. At least the benchmark, it is exactly the same every time it runs.
Also, there's random stuff that happens in game so it wouldn't be a test that gives a consistent sample
Undervolt / power efficiency comparison video please?! Could you also include 5800x3d?
Nice video! I wanted to ask if this CPU is snappy as older generations of INTEL for example. Really love how real you are and you went to the stream of Frame Chasers. Im waiting for more videos of you with the 9800x3d because i want a CPU that is very good in gaming and also fast in everyday use without lags, I don’t mind productivity i just want a good CPU if im playing a game and i want to alt-tab to something else not to lag or anything bad. Used to have a 5800x and i had some small problems and i switched to 13600k and im very happy but looking forward to upgrade in the near future i dont mind brands if INTEL suits me i would buy INTEL if AMD suits me i would go with AMD
@techyescity - You might want to add these two games when you do w10/w11 comparison. A plagues tale 2 and RDR2, i saw another youtube that did a w10/w11 comparison, and every game was within margin of error, but these 2 games however had massive swings in favor of W11
Thanks for that I will check out those two games if I do a comparison again in the future.
Perfectly in line with you. Less efficiency, but good performance uplift, especially in productivity and on the 0.1 and 1% lows, and also good temperatures due to the different nature of the implementation of the 3d v-cache. Good job AMD, now we need to wait for the price drop :)
Yesterday, in utah Facebook marketplace place i got a corsair vengeance prebuilt (ryzen 7 and 3070) a monitor, chair and keyboard mouse and headset all razor for 700 bucks. With conservative prices on everything else but the pc i paid like 400-450 on the pc itself.
Thank you for showcasing gears 5! 😎🙌
Nope. Only CPUs picked up for $5 and drowning in multipurpose spray are the best gaming CPUs
Wild 😂😂😂
The xeon x5650 is king then!
(As long as you have the multipurpose spray)
Long life for xeon 😂😂😂
x5675 for life
Personal ick to see reviewers touch contact pins on tech products. Thanks for the review. Rare to see reviews with sweet spot speed and lowest CL for RAM for some reason.
Don’t forget Bry, as you’re a fellow Aussie 🇦🇺💪🥰👍✊, the RRP of $799 is including local taxes etc on its price which isn’t included in the US.
Happy Birthday!!! 🎂
Looking forward to user experience update, according to an article at computerbase, intercore latency was improved compared to previous model
So Windows 10 and Windows 11 24h2 (or what eva required one), results in the same? So Windows 10 is not affected by the performance issue :O? Only asking as i dont want to use w11.
Great video ❤
was wondering if you could test the monster hunter beta since it seems to be bottlenecking cpus or it might be something else bottlenecking it, your experience may shed some light on what's going on with that game.
First off thanks for the video, and being willing to do a indepth long term evaluation, because as much as I like building computers I am getting tired of having to build 2 home systems and buy a personal laptop, so I can game on the go. I very much miss the days when one CPU could be used for both, I am hoping one of these chips are going to be built with the 3D cashe is under the time entire core sets, though I do wonder if that would be to much heat build up, yes even though they flipped the cores and mem.
Hey Bryan will be any updates on the $100 flip up challenge
welp got a 780x3d early this year through the micro center bundle but mannnnn, I told myself I wouldn't upgrade but jeez this performance boost is just so good.
The sponsor spot audio is a tad bit low, Bryan
and it has been like this for like a month if not more
Hi Brian, awesome work, can you try to undervolt it and set a fixed clock frequency and how does it reflect in terms of power consumption and performance gain/loss
Which one runs cooler? You always give temperature information but not today? I'm thinking of air cooling and would like to know which one would be better for that and I don't overclock.
8k CPU test in build-in-bench is exactly what gamers need to know. At least that is what I would guess after reading some ehm constructive comments.
A bit late to comment on this video, but i hope you see this. I managed to get my hands on a 9800x3d on launch, i’m in the process of buying the ram for the platform, i’m thinking of going for 6000 cl30 2x16g. My question is: do xmp or expo really change something? I know that each are tailored to each manufacturer, but atm i have an am4 platform with xmp ram and it runs great. The kit i was looking at is the teamgroup tcreate expert 2x16g as it is rather low profile and won’t interfere with my peerless assassin. Thank you!
.1% lows are the most important. Thanks for stressing this. Hopefully I can snag one today to put in my x670 I just got.
I would love to see an upgrade cpu guide from start to finish
In our country, the 9800X3D costs $120 more than the 7800X3D.
Do yall think the performance gains is worth the price increase? Ugrading from a ryzen 5 3600 btw...
No, keep in mind to see a 10-15% gain like all these videos you would need to be gaming at 1080P low settings on a high end GPU like a 4090, which is not realistic for most, these are CPU benchmark conditions. At 1440P and 4K high setting these two CPU 's would be roughly equal except in a handful of games. The 9800X3D might have a tiny bit more longevity, but I would suggest not enough to consider seriously.
Doing my video editing on my 220GE and a320 mobo. May finally be time to upgrade.
worse than being put to a chinese waterboarding 7 day challenge my guy xd
The increase from your system to a 5700x3d is indefinitely higher than the added bonus from 5700x3d to am5.
5700x3d does not use more than 120w under full load, keep the a320.
Plus, 180 whatever the change vs a completely new, pricy system.
Invest the difference from the cpu alone into a new gpu and 32gb of 3600 cl16 memory, its gotten almost cheap these days.
@@auturgicflosculator2183 the r5 7500F is even better value
5500 cpus are great value for those boards, just make sure to update the bios before switching! A rx 6600 gpu or similar is a perfect fit for that system
@auturgicflosculator2183 yeah no way im going 8 cores on this board... probly would do a 5600 something, get a good psu and i have a 3070 from the mining boom that i kept so i will rehash it.
10 degrees cooler on most tests as well, that's the main W for me
about a month ago you bought x13 4070s are you by chance selling them by them self or just in rigs?
Is it worth upgrading from a 7800X3D? or just wait till the next cpu for when it comes out? Currently got 4090 paired with 7800x3d
its almost 2 weeks now bryan. i need my fix of tech yes lovin. i hope all your loved ones are doing well. i wish to see dad man in a live
stream soon.
Saw a video of undervolting the cpu and the reviewer getting good results with it .
Still going strong with the 5800x3D, glad to see AMD gives me upgrade options with the 9800x3D
Thank you Brian God Bless you ! I have a 7800 X3D with a 7900XTX, I am curious if the 7900XTX Arous is good for video rendering compared to the RTX 4080 ?
im waiting for those latency performance charts!
I'ma wait to see what the 9950x3d compares to it.
This seems to be a CPU for gamers who have RTX 4090s but want to play everything at a paltry 1080p ancient monitor? The fact is, for games, you would do better to get a cheaper processor (like the 7800x3d) and save the difference for a better monitor and play at 1440p or 4k. Maybe get a 5800x3d but save that £300 towards a better graphics card.
Jumping from a 9600k to a 9800x3d and I look forward to the massive performance increase it'll bring.
Why buy the 9600x to begin with? Just wanted to prep the platform?
@@skylertschmidt dude "K" as in 9th gen intel lmao
Should be better fps, ipc, less stutters/microstutters in gaming. I noticed even going to 12700KF then 12900KF I got rid of 9600k's gaming issues in cpu heavy scenarios, 9800X3D should be a wow moment upgrade.
With what GPU?
@@MrBoombast64 Originally a 2080TI but recently got a 4070 super, which made it obvious I was now facing CPU bottlenecks. I managed to get a 9800X3D on hold at Microcenter, luckily since they are now sold out everywhere.
Perfect!
will the 9800x3d be supported by Gigabyte B650 Gaming X AX V2 motherboard? or suggest me another
The Baldur Gate 3 results seem interesting compared to what I saw on gamers nexus video.
5:57, is there something messed up there in the results? makes no sense right?
Im running vr and iracing. Both alot of cpu. Now running a 7800x3d, i think this update wil help with the 1% lows and some more power running vr. Even if its hige settings.
CPU frametime is the key for VR games, I might switch my 5900x for the 5700X3D just for that reason since I recently got a VR headset.
Games like factorio, satisfactory, 7 days to die, etc would be nice to see the comparison
Is the BG3 Slide at 5:22 wronmg? Cause it has the 9800x3d at the bottom with 46fps on 1% but the 9950x as the king?
Stuff up. He had 7700x in the msi overlay in one of the games too. Cyberpunk isnt right also
How does it feel vs a 9900k and 10900k in terms of overall latency?
Can you test the cyberpunk results outside the canned benchmark, in god town near the circle ?
5:17 based on this, for BG3 I'm best off with 9950X. Are we sure on this?
No. This is literally the only channel I've seen where the 3D chips don't decimate non-3D chips for BG3. Something is off about his results.
Hi i was looking to buy this 9800 but im not sure on which mobo to go for? can you help?
Really want to hear how the latency feels long term.
Hello Sir Brian,
Could you do the test with latency like 10900k ? also could remind me what security patch you remove for better speed for old chips please?
Overclock it ,undervot it,to much voltage. use this board ,test this ram,change the timings (silicon lottery) we are never happy.. at least we have something we can finally upgrade to. Thank youTech yes city for all your testing i just want to GAME!!!!
Just ordered mine on at microcenter's website. No waiting on a line or camping outside like a peasant. 😎
as a observation, other reviewers had very different results on cyberpunk, perhaps the motherboard did something here? seems to be the case for power consumption too
it looks ok, but that more power thing kinda sucks, maybe under-clock it to same as 7800x3d and see if it's faster and less power. It'll be perfect for those gamers who want every single fps though, cheers.
Higher power and clocks on the 9800X3D are a legitimate advantage that comes from better cooling
hey man im tryna make a budget build channel and company for 200$ is a older optiplex a psu and a gtx 1060 a good build
So I understand its best to test cpus in 1080p but I feel like not enough testing is done at 1440p and 4k,now I get the reason why its not done but there are people who would like to see what kind of performance uplift is gained. Especally on games with heavy rt and path tracing where every frame counts. I plan on heading to MC today and getting one of these to replace my 7800x3d. pretty excited.
it's not tested in higher resolutions because basically even at 1440p it's all nearly the same when talking about these top end cpus. So these test are more about how the CPU will perform for you in the future. Unless you are PRO gamer and actually playing at 1080p. You could get 12700k for third of the price and will perform basically the same in 1440p and higher with 4090, and most ppl don't have 4090 so...
Not bad at all, The Ryzen 7 9800x3d is the new king of block on the Granite series.
might be my new CPU
What are you willing to pay like ($500 and maybe over) and do you already have a am5 board?
@@AwesomeBlackDude i have Intel
@@H31MU7what intel cpu, and also I have the 7800X3D and I will skip the 9800X3D, feels disappointingly marginally better, and I will probably wait for the 9950X3D as from what I’ve read from leaks, this generation that cpu will beat the lower cost 9800X3D
@@claimdud3104 14900k, am not happy with the instability issues
@ tbh you need super good cooling for that monster, the ytb channel frame chasers talks on his videos about this a lot, you can watch him and see maybe his videos help you out to find some stabile settings, because I’m telling amd also has a lot of stability issues, before I had the 3600x ryzen 5 cpu and it was decent but it didn’t have as many issues with stability as it does now
Max settings on 1080p is a good comparison. Any chance on checking 1440p to check for GPU bottleneck?
at higher than 1080 the bottleneck is the gpu, same as 4k, at 1080p the limit is your cpu, at higher resolutions the 1 and 0.1% lows are basically responsability of the cpu, this is why reviews for cpus are done at 1080p, with sometimes one or two games at higher resolutions
waiting for your snappiness test... it would be great if it can have a CPU that can do better than the 10th gen part.
9800X3D is looking tempting, might cave down the road. I like that the cousin 12900KS is on the chart feel 12900KF 4090 is still going strong for what I play. Am still curious if the 9950X3D will get the 2 ccd 3dvcache right or if the 9800X3D is just better for gaming still for most people.
Looks so good, but I want to get the 9950X3D for the 16/32 cores. Should I get the 9800X3D or wait till 9950X3D comes out?
WHERE DID YOU GO BRYAN PLEASE COME BACK.
Are the baldur’s gate 3 results mixed up where 9950x result shown should be the 9800x3d and vis versa?
Commentary also doesn’t match whats on screen.
Results are correct, just labels flipped in the chart. X3D parts have red bars in other charts and in-game clip shows over 370fps avg for 9800X3D.
Guess this will be a new undervolt king. still, as i play capped @ 90 fps, i guess tje extra frames won't apeal to me until next 3d chip. The cooling improvement is useful though😊
Would be good if you could include am4 chips. Particularly 5800x3d.
I think I need a new rig soon. Tech advances so fast, while dinosaur me still wallows in the past. :D
If your pc is good enough to display and has no problem to do some task
I dont think you need to upgrade PC, better invest money into something promising (unless youre competitive gamer who really relies on high FPS and smoothness)
I think you have the 9800X3D and 7800X3D, wrong way around on the Balder's Gate 3 graph.
Also, apparently the best RAM with 'AMD' 9800X3D is 6000MHz, as it works with the system better.
The funny thing is when we see the balder's gate 3 results, he doesn't talk about it. Like everything is normal. As for the 6200 ram speed, I also though that 6000 was the sweet spot for ryzen at the moment and that speed and cl doesn't matter much for x3d chips.
I wish there was a productivity chip with bigger better L1 and L2
So do you not like Windows 11?, just wondering. I am thinking of upgrading.. don't want to pay $30 for an extra year of Windows 10.
Stick to Win10, Win11 is telemetry galore.
We episode 2!!!
I just built a 7800X3D pc spent $450 on the cpu wont upgrade to 9800X3D for 1-2 FPS at 1440P
make a test with 9800x3d on b650 with 6000mhz cl30 ram, because this is the sweet spot on pc right now
Yes same PC i am running ant a 4090
FPS and temperature is better for 9800X3D but power efficiency is poor after 4.8Ghz. Is there a way to limit the clockspeed at 4.8 so that 9800X3D can also have a good power efficiency? Can we enter the bios and set the power wattage limit to maybe 55W?
should can but maybe theres no exact power limit, youll have to manually adjust pbo, ali does that check his channel
think its par with 5800x3d at 55w, quite appealing lol
i cant remember which one, but i think bitwit did a pbo -30, and he got some crazy good results, lower temps about 15C drop and about 40-50W power decrees.
You can set the TDP to 65W or 105W in the BIOS (ECO mode). I think 65W and -30 CO would be crazy efficient.
hello sir , i wanna ask u something , i have a GIGABYTE RX570 gaming mi , i remember exactly 11 months ago i was watching youtube on my pc and all of a sudden fans started going full speed , i restarted the pc but no display even since , tried all of the easy troubleshooting methods like cleaning gpu and applying new thermal paste but nothing worked it's just a black screen , i got a GTX670 PE for 40$ , i tried to flash the bios of my RX570 so i plugged both ( displaying on the GTX) and ran the flashing program on MS DOS but the RX570 is just not detected , is there any fix i can try ? and thank you ♥
I like the 9800 but where can y get it ? 😕
so who bought the 7800x3d on sale at 300 EUR is it worth the upgrade? playing ultrawide 1440p
Will 9800x3d work in a tiny case like Minineo S400 with Noctua NH-L12S ?
I got my 7800X3D few months back for $599 AUD, its now $719 AUD.
9800x3d is $829 at scorptec . 7800x3d is $699 at scorptech , I got my 7800x3d about a year ago on special for $500 . Prices are stupid over here
Sell it $600 and upgrade to 9800x3d
Hi @techyescity. My personal experience is as follows... The new fastest gaming cpu is good but... When enduser has 1440p and etc. max graphics settings the fps is very close compared to all cpus. That is the real scenario that is not often mentioned. Ofcourse fastest cpu is fastest and newer is better most times. 😃🤗😇
At 5:18 your BG3 chart is incorrect, 9950X and 9800X3D should of swapped places.
I think the matter with CP77 is that you're running into a GPU bottleneck at 1080p high settings. 250 fps is already a lot even for a 4090, the only way you can squeeze out more is by lowering the resolution or settings which will then show the actual difference between the CPUs.
That said, it's absurd how fast CPUs are these days, causing a 4090 to bottleneck at 1080p.
i wish people test it with 1440p or 4k DLSS. many people who can afford this kind of CPU price would not pay in low 1080p
typo on BG3?
Worth it if you got a 7800x3d and a 7900xtx playing at 1440p?
Nope
you're a legend
GamersNexus tested Baldur Gate with a 61.6 FPS for 0.1% Low on the 9800x3d at 1080p. Something is not right with the numbers.
There is something with 6200mhz ram. Run it at 6000mhz instead, as its still the same IO die as previous chips.
The speed doesn't matter, only thing matter is keeping it 1:1, if U can get 6400 or 6600 at 1:1, that's even better. They keep saying 6000 is the sweet spot is because at 6000 speed, it can guarantee 1:1
Will the 9950x3d be better ate games then 9800x3d?
When you play at max graphics the cpus are basically tied. Even the 5800x3d is almost on par.
Maybe average fps but not 1% lows