Wow! That lady talking at the end really has a great hand on the situation. Her understanding of the economics is the clearest and most comprehensive I've yet heard.
yeah, she really understands the situation. Pity the leaders don't. Also, i liked how this video highlighted that the two economic ambitions are contradictory, you can't do both. As for "win-win", i can't believe that anyone with experience of China would believe that anymore😂
I saw some prediction Chinese companies will be making up 30% of the world EVs by 2035 ( ie not just manufacturing for others - but specific brands )- but this chip ban could hit hard - China can make I think 14nm chips - that may be enough - as many industrial chips don't have to be on 3 or 4nm - Still there's a lot of knowledge in SOC design - Will take PRC along time to get UV chip making - a lot of it is skilled personal with huge experience - PRC older people know hardship - it's the young promised the opium of consumerism and jobs that will cause strife - China will muddle on - they will export their own stuff - but much of it will become commodity , low profit , high volume - I'm not too fussed on that as -If you want to keep paying Apple , Samsung $1200 every couple of years for just a phone go right ahead - when even now a $300 phone is excellent - and 5 years on 3nm SOCs - they will run fast , efficient and 20Mb camera is still enough - even if big guys pushing huge numbers with noisy sensors - so need extra processing to clean it up to get a clean unnecessary 256 MB snapshot
You do realize she doesn't exist? She's an AI generated bot. More worrying: no name, no affiliation, no sources... A pity, since I think what most of what she says is true. Now it has the air of propaganda, rather than insight.
The woman speaking in the second half of the video is amazingly wise and observant. For a country so dependent on imported materials and energy paid for by selling manufactured goods to threaten war on its biggest customers is madness. And a similar madness is the assumption that China is entitled to steal technology, and that it can acquire high end chips and use them militarily against the very countries whose constant investment and freedom of inquiry has developed them. We do not need to worry about China developing chip technology as good as our own, let alone better. They are too corrupt, so all they can do is copy and attempt to steal. But I really feel for the ordinary people who would do good work if only they could. Life in a kleptocracy: nasty, brutish, and short.
When you culturally think you are the center of the world and have not had any real cultural changes since the Song Dynasty, it's natural that they mistook the shadow they see as the 2nd Coming of the Ming (not the West overshadowing them). It's a shame the West is intent on killing themselves with people that are too mentally unfit to be in power.
I could not agree with you more. I was thinking the exact same thing. I studies in Shanghai many years ago as a college student. I really feel for the Chinese people and don't think they're being well served by this horrible current government.
A big factor that caused the closure of trade with other countries is China's antagonistic foreign policy that involves the South China, specifically, the ridiculous territorial claims by China with their 9 dash liline. This resulted in even moderate countries ended up rethinking their economic and political relationship with China. Thus now, China is considered the big bad bully by most democratic countries that China had been heavily trading with. Xi really blew it when he started pursuing the 9 dash line claim, because, most countries now can use it as leverage against him and the CCP in future economic and political negotiations, especially with countries negatively affected by the 9 dash line.
China is lucky that it is not being punished deliberately for its role in the pandemic. It let the coronavirus spread unimpeded through international flights out of Wuhan. But domestically it clamped down on travel much sooner.
Not diplomatically, no, but that's mainly because there isn't a whole lot the world could do short of committing actual acts of war to punish China. The fun part is that we don't have to, because private corporations are punishing China way more effectively than governments could, simply by leaving.
I was university teaching in Ukraine 2019-2020 and in January 2020 we started getting messages that our Chinese students weren't returning and those students who'd spent Christmas in Odesa were panicked, trying to get back. I asked my Chinese what was going on and they said that there were reports from their families that there was a deadly flu in Wuhan and there were bodies on the streets. At the time, there were two Chinese doctors who reported the situation, but they disappeared, and WHO said there was nothing to worry about. The CCP and WHO colluded on suppressing news.
do some more research before you just accuse any country. America unleashed this virus into the world because they want to destroy China. because they took over the world economy. that laboratory in Wuhan was funded by Fauchi. CIA itself got money to keep it hidden and lie. if you want more information. from the TH-cam channel redacted
The lady at the end of the video gave a level-headed concise summary of what ails the Chinese export-oriented economy. For decades, China relied and basked in "Made in China" exports which were cheap and made with low labor cost. They neglected innovation, the bottomline of which is research and development. Instead of making their own brand, they focused on stealing copyright and IP theft. Instead of investing in high-technology, they settled with reverse-engineering and the like. Now their short-sightedness is showing. That lady should give this lecture to those "patriotic" Chinese who thinks that dogma can feed people.
There are some well-informed people in China. Unfortunately, China's propaganda apparatus have fostered a different view. The Chinese government is very well aware of its dependencies and vulnerabilities. The U.S. along with its allies have urged China to open up its market, level the playing field in trade and investment, be more transparent in business and allowing outside observers, curb IP theft, enforce IP protection, eliminate forced IP transfers, stop forced slave labor, stop shipping illegal opiates and precursor substances, so on. China is not willing to accept none of that. The CCP is not willing to give in an inch as it would loosen their total control as well as given up on its ongoing gains. The West is also becoming more aware of China's unrestricted warfare and infiltration. China is no longer competive in labor along with its waning demograghic dividend and the enormous debt incured. Foreign businesses and investments are moving elsewhere. Xi Jin Ping knew China's best days are behind years ago, but refused any concessions and turning more inward. The economic decline would be less severe if the conditions were more favorable for the trading nations and their businesses and investors.
China often speaks of mutual benefit in development, but rarely actually considers the counter party. It’s BRI projects are mostly for oil, gas and mineral extraction. It’s transportation projects don’t hire locals employees nor train locals to improve their job skills.
@@peterseth3296the loans specifically state that Chinese companies must be used. So whatever money that isn't embezzled goes to Chinese companies go back to China, and these projects don't make money for the host country, which in turn end up not being able to repay the debt.
@@SinyaoMost of these programs and projects are proposed so that the CCP officials can siphon off the money through bribaries. Same shit happens in Vietnam, Mexico, Russia...
Never forget self interest. BRI was always about mutual deception. The CCP pretended it was not just about extending their interests, wealth and power and the poor countries pretended they would pay back the loans instead of treating the BRI as free money. CCP knew the loans would mostly not be paid back and that they would claim assets in lieu of repayment and increase their economic control on loan default. The winning country was always going to be the side whose unstated objective was closest to be achieved in the end. The true winners were the corrupt rulers and officials in the poor country who won either way. This was why the whole BRI was so popular and widely accepted.
It is saddening to see the people suffering from the massive economic downturn. The CCP is directly responsible for their plight. The situation will not improve so long as the evil and corrupt CCP remains in power. Time for the people to rise up and overthrow the CCP regime.
It won't change until they have a significant self-reflection and overhaul of their culture. The fall of the CCP just leads to some princling bring about another one-party/imperial system.
Revolution requires an organized group behind it. With all the monitoring going on, anything remotely like that could only originate within the CCP itself if it has enough of Xi Jinping, or from organized crime (for the same reason)
That analyst at the end of the video is BY FAR the smartest person I've heard from China! Who wants to bet that the CCP will label her as a dissident... 😕
That's true, but also a bit ironic since she's an AI generated bot. She does not exist. The message does though. Unfortunately, it gives "her" whole speech an air of cheap CCP propaganda itself.
It's hard to square these 'collapse' videos with the small percentage point drops in the official figures. As for the apparent de-industrialisation of China's workshops towns it's reminiscent of the similar de-industrialisation in the 70s and 80s in Europe and the US. Only it seems to be happening a lot faster.
The world buys a lot more optional extra things today than 50 years ago. So many of these factories can see business dry up so fast. I do t trust the official figures. I think China’s GDP is more in the $12-14 trillion range.
Official numbers are total fabrications. Heck its the CCP do you think they ever tell truth?. If the big boys are pulling out then you can bet al the smaller fish that used to feed off them are dying out. But do not expect the official numbers to match just watch the big crashes of places like evergrand or country garden.
You will doubtless be aware the official figures are entirely fictitious, to delay the eventual explanations from officials with no explanations except the CCP propaganda. Unlike the deindustrialization that occurred elsewhere in the world, businesses and industries are abandoning China for other eastern countries rather than ceasing to exist.
President Xi wants the Chinese to be self reliant. the problem is the Chinese are transactional not relational. this is why they will struggle going forward.
Xi's "Made In China 2025" is pure fantasy, another giant L for Xi. Cai Xia, a professor of the history of CCP ideology, described modern China best. "The CCP looks fearsome from the outside, like some polished model of a totalitarian Stalinist dictatorship, but in fact it is fragile inside. . . . It has no way to handle the gaping mismatch between the ideology in its propaganda and the reality of its society." It's kaput.
China had its chance. It chose to keep menacing its neighboring countries and the west. It comes with a cost. They are now paying the cost. China encountered the perfect storm of factors, drought, floods, covid, supply chain issues, world inflation, housing market collapse inside China, etc... Along the way world woke up to the threat of continuing to depend on China for so many goods and realized they have other options.
What china forgot into their strategy was that if factories moved from us to china, it means that the location of a factory is not set for good. Looks like they made everything into their power to afraid everyone so that the investors moved their factories somewhere else and rightfully so. Everyone with the right mind would go out of china. Its a big mess on almost every aspect. Now that the goal is achieve, this is the result. Good job Xi Jiping such an awesome ''leader'' Once the factory would be set in Vietnam/India and mexico, it would stay there only if the situation stays the same. Low wages, low operation cost, stable political situation. If not it would go somewhere else and if there is no point of having a factory far away to export to product, its obvious that they would save the transportation cost and made everything in north america/europe/japan/korea since this is the stable consumer base.
We have different definitions for what's a classy lassy vs a middle-aged lady haha, though, I fully agree with you. She's smart, wise and correct. I also liked the way she finished off her rant. It was a true statement, it was bold and it had a funny flair🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😅😄
"Fist waving patriotic youth blaming US on everything", that would be Cultural Revolution II or the Boxer Rebellion II, whatever it is, total destruction of any private wealth in China!
One thing I didn’t hear mentioned was the individual people of the US. Many, many of us US citizens are doing our best to avoid products made in China. Many of us try to find other options that are made elsewhere as much as possible. We hold the CCP responsible for the pandemic, as well as have very hard feelings toward the CCP, for the threats to the US, the spy balloons, the turmoil in the South China Sea, and the support they are giving Russia. The CCP thinks they can take and do whatever they want, and the US citizens don’t feel our government is doing enough about it. Therefore we each do what little we can to reduce our own contribution to the finances of the CCP. As individuals, we don’t have an effect, but when a great percentage of us follow the same plan, the effect grows immensely. Our companies are not going to order merchandise that isn’t selling.
The world (and particularly China) is learning that you cannot arbitrarily shut down your economy and not expect major negative impacts. Rather than adapting to the challenge of Covid, much of the world just shut closed doors and shut down. Many of these impacts are going to lead to permanent changes in many places. People who think that things will just go back to the way they were are in for a long and disappointing struggle.
Negative impacts only happen because of pesky minor details like debt and banks. Once communism is worldwide and CBDC prevails shutdowns can happen anytime dear leader dictates with no issues.
This is more than just the pandemic policy of Xi. It’s also the new “counter-espionage” policy of Xi which drive foreign companies out of China. Additionally, because of Xi’s desire to “conquer the world,” the west is decoupling from China resulting in its slow road toward economic isolation from the world. What you see in this video is the result.
The lady is just speaking facts that everyone outside China already know. China is just refusing to acknowledge that it accumulate wealth and huge industries due to foreign investments. Once these foreign countries lose interest, they moved elsewhere. China's arrogant and combative approach on the international scene doesnt help either.
when you do nothing about the evil surrounding you because you're afraid of psychopaths or just want to 'not rock the boat' this is what you get every single time
I'm amazed how well the governments brain washing works. There are a lot of really smart people in China but the CCP has worked really hard to keep these smart people from actually using their brains to think for themselves.
The telling phrase is: "no matter how crappy your product was, if you had the guts to sell it, someone would buy it". This is the Chinese attitude to business. I personally will not buy Chinese products if I can avoid it. Actually, I have been on a buy American kick for a long time. I have also consulted with companies that outsourced either components or whole products to China. When I am brought in it is because they have a problem with the Chinese production. Some of the smaller ones went out of business. One even offered to sell me the company, he was so desperate.
19:22 this woman provided a great lecture to all so called experts. Four mins of listening to her talk is much more beneficial than listening to those economic experts.
China benefits greatly from globalization but itself very much going against it at all cost. China also doesn’t like being bullied by western countries but doing it to other nations in the region. Chinese people are paying the price for their government that they never elect to be their leader.
People from China don't know what has happened... Arrogance and Poor Workmanship and the world is sick of it and are taking their business and money elsewhere. China had it all in their hands China That is what Arrogance and Poor Workmanship gets you.
The world buys a lot more optional extra things today than 50 years ago. Times are hard and the works is worried about depending on China. So many of these factories can see business dry up so fast. I don’t trust the official figures in Chinese GDP and it’s growth. I think China’s GDP is more in the $12-14 trillion range. I doubt that they will grow next year either.
At one time the label "Made in Japan" was a synonym for "cheap or low tech." The Japanese fixed that problem over many years and became a powerhouse of manufacturing and processing. Japan developed its own high quality, cost effective, business and manufacturing culture and the world beat a path to its markets. Outside investors in China have also invested a lot in market research, IR&D, etc. They really do not like learning that their contract manufacturers have stolen that intellectual property (IP) with the aid of the Chinese government and courts, and used it to subsidize goods that compete with their own products, from golf clubs to microchips. To top that off, the CCP has targeted universities and companies outside of its borders for technologies useful for military purposes. Eventually, the risks to China's customers was not worth access to a cheap supply chain.
By the 1970s, the products coming out of Japan were 90% high quality. Furthermore, Japan had created literally dozens of successful, innovative world-famous brands. You can name them all. China, after 50 years, still produces crap products (on their own), while their "brands" are all cheap rip-offs of Western companies, with cookie-cutter knock-off tech. How "innovative" is Alibaba, really? How "innovative" is Huawei? They aren't THIS is the difference. China's stuck forever in the MIDDLE INCOME TRAP!
USA is smart, moving all those manufacturers with serious pollution to foreign countries, not only enjoy low cost of labor, electricity, water…. also prevent its own land pollution.
Wow. Solid reporting. Listening to this reporting and others, it's hard to see a bright future for the people of China. Of course, the leadership and those associated with the party will be okay but it looks like a tough road for regular people. I know the Chinese people are strong and have endured so much in the past. I hope for a strong future for them. (Excellent translation by the way. I appreciate that the translation is not just word for word but done to match the expressions and normal speaking patterns of both Chinese and English speakers.)
Especially nice finish. My American elder brother worked at Chinese universities in three cities in China of over 9 years. It was challenging enough as it was. Mr. Xi has become not only physically ill, he has become mentally ill. I can tell. China had better get rid of him before there is utter collapse. I harbor a great respect for the Chinese people from watching your channel. I hurt for the "common man."
Don't worry. The common man in other countries that don't disrespect agreements or IP, etc will benefit. There are common men and women in other countries who deserve a chance also. A weak CCP in the long term is better for the world.
If the lady at the end actually said what the translator spoke, she has since been 'ushered' into a 're-education' camp that specializes in organ donation.
Yeah, that's the part of the Chinese collapse that I'm eagerly awaiting: the day all the commieboos eat crow over proclaiming China the next world superpower.
I am child of the outsourcing to china in the 1980's. Its going to get really bad in china. In 10 years, it will be worst then Detroit and Pittsburg. History of outsourcing is the same everywhere. Very poor people and violence follows.
Yes 100 percent, yet most of these idiots comments blame china. It's a two way street. The fact that China has 1.1 ..1.2 billion people dosent register with most of the comments. Every coutry in the top 10 best lifestyle , health care etc have small populations as such.
The honeymoon only lasts so long. It will be good to have reliable standards and quality back in the countries our manufacturers did not see the end game!
I was in Shenzhen in 2018 -2021 and I can guarantee that the real money saw all this coming somehow. When the Hong Kong border closed 'temporarily' some high-end businesses acted as if it was permanent - which it ended up being. What am I saying? I don't know. It's almost as if someone in CCP wants China to experience this financial collapse. So my question is, WHO is making the most money from China's financial plight? Answers below please.
July 2023 is the first month that US import from Mexico surpass china. Import from both country are around 15% but china is downward from 20% and Mexico is rise from 10%. it seem that factory are relocate to Mexico and the trend is not stopping and Mexico will rise to 20% when China will down to less than 10%.
Business is a living, constant changing organism. It develops in the right place and will continue to develop in the place that suits best at that moment. So it will move. nationally and internationally. In my country we had a large textile industry, leather factories, shipbuilding and cigar factories. There is almost nothing left of it, but our industry still has a major shortage of personnel. Now we have a high-tech manufacturing and development industry. It will always be like this, and China will continue to develop and change. I've been there a few times and I think it's a beautiful country with very friendly people. I love that country.
Don't be so ignorant. That's a a very small percentage of people that do that and that's in various countries. I haven't seen any dogs and cats on the menu in the Restaurants.
The only positive aspect of this whole ordeal is that the Chinese get to breathe cleaner air since all the factories have closed......less smog and heat generated in cities have probably played a part in all the weird weather conditions that they have been experiencing
A moment of silence for all the good-natured, hard-working Chinese souls who worked to live a better life but died because of disease, fire, flood, lack of food, emergency response, medical facilities and safe infrastructure because the CCP spent the money on PLA, BRI and covert infiltration into foreign governments and cultures to gain control. Without the influx of direct foreign investment the grim prospects are a return to famine and poverty. It's easy to predict the shabby and unsafe apartments that were built by the millions will start to degrade and fail (injuring/killing some citizens) within the next 10-15 years. Sad story.
its not because of military only though... mainly some of the big players moved out because of what happened during the recent events as well... where they killed off 90% of production and exports in china all of a sudden.... the big players immediately tried to find other countries to diversify their production plants locations for the coming years in case this happens again.... the military and the US's government public stance only accelerated the eventuality of this happening much faster to the point that it all happened and ended in 3 years instead of slowly moving production out of china in 5-10 years time..... and instead of reducing the prominence of using china's production capacity in that time frame of 5-10 years, now all of them have pulled out of using china's production capacity within these 3 years instead...
I don’t think it be wise for China to think about exporting cars, especially electric cars. There’s a distrust between us. We don’t want China having any of our data.
I would just point out that in the US, we have a terrible shortage of BBQ fish, dim sum, noodle and bad restaurants. Skilled cooks could come here and make a fortune.
The 20- End was very clearly explained by the Madam. I feel India should not fall into this western trap. Domestic market with World class products should what India should aim for and Create World class products and brands
I love the woman at the end. Her level-headedness about the economy and manufacturing is great and i wish to see more of her stances. I bet she's already on a CCP watchlist; she needs to be protected.
Reminds me of how far the S.F., CA economy has fallen. Possibly even more dramatic. Luxury commercial real estate in S.F. is failing. Retail is closing en masse!
Wow! That lady talking at the end really has a great hand on the situation. Her understanding of the economics is the clearest and most comprehensive I've yet heard.
I concur. She's amazing.
Yes she certainly summarized the situation very well.
How long before she "disappears"...
Yep she really hit the nail on the head.
yeah, she really understands the situation. Pity the leaders don't.
Also, i liked how this video highlighted that the two economic ambitions are contradictory, you can't do both. As for "win-win", i can't believe that anyone with experience of China would believe that anymore😂
Wow that woman at the end really understands the stark reality facing China..
I saw some prediction Chinese companies will be making up 30% of the world EVs by 2035 ( ie not just manufacturing for others - but specific brands )- but this chip ban could hit hard - China can make I think 14nm chips - that may be enough - as many industrial chips don't have to be on 3 or 4nm - Still there's a lot of knowledge in SOC design - Will take PRC along time to get UV chip making - a lot of it is skilled personal with huge experience - PRC older people know hardship - it's the young promised the opium of consumerism and jobs that will cause strife - China will muddle on - they will export their own stuff - but much of it will become commodity , low profit , high volume - I'm not too fussed on that as -If you want to keep paying Apple , Samsung $1200 every couple of years for just a phone go right ahead - when even now a $300 phone is excellent - and 5 years on 3nm SOCs - they will run fast , efficient and 20Mb camera is still enough - even if big guys pushing huge numbers with noisy sensors - so need extra processing to clean it up to get a clean unnecessary 256 MB snapshot
Chinese EVs will make up 30% in China, the developed world will slap big tariffs on them for anti-dumping laws. 😮
You do realize she doesn't exist? She's an AI generated bot. More worrying: no name, no affiliation, no sources... A pity, since I think what most of what she says is true. Now it has the air of propaganda, rather than insight.
The woman speaking in the second half of the video is amazingly wise and observant. For a country so dependent on imported materials and energy paid for by selling manufactured goods to threaten war on its biggest customers is madness. And a similar madness is the assumption that China is entitled to steal technology, and that it can acquire high end chips and use them militarily against the very countries whose constant investment and freedom of inquiry has developed them. We do not need to worry about China developing chip technology as good as our own, let alone better. They are too corrupt, so all they can do is copy and attempt to steal. But I really feel for the ordinary people who would do good work if only they could. Life in a kleptocracy: nasty, brutish, and short.
When you culturally think you are the center of the world and have not had any real cultural changes since the Song Dynasty, it's natural that they mistook the shadow they see as the 2nd Coming of the Ming (not the West overshadowing them). It's a shame the West is intent on killing themselves with people that are too mentally unfit to be in power.
Nicely put 👍
who is she? i would like to get the source video for her. She comes off as the Chinese version of Tucker Carlson :D
I could not agree with you more. I was thinking the exact same thing. I studies in Shanghai many years ago as a college student. I really feel for the Chinese people and don't think they're being well served by this horrible current government.
Have they still got the dystopian credit system for there civilians in CHINA???
On one hand, I can't but point and laugh at the CCP.
On the other, my heart breaks for the people of China.
Err…China has a free market economy only the government communist - never been to China have you 😎
well, it is better than the Brits, isn't it? LOL LOLO LOL LOL
@@MSDGroup-ez6zk Just keep on posting the same thing, wumao. At least you're getting paid.
@@gaoxiaen1I think he might be doing a sarcasm
@@MSDGroup-ez6zkidiot
A big factor that caused the closure of trade with other countries is China's antagonistic foreign policy that involves the South China, specifically, the ridiculous territorial claims by China with their 9 dash liline. This resulted in even moderate countries ended up rethinking their economic and political relationship with China. Thus now, China is considered the big bad bully by most democratic countries that China had been heavily trading with.
Xi really blew it when he started pursuing the 9 dash line claim, because, most countries now can use it as leverage against him and the CCP in future economic and political negotiations, especially with countries negatively affected by the 9 dash line.
In a few years it'll be the 4,000 dash line, a few years after that they'll be famine throughout China. 😮
Agreed
The latest statement for which my country is again protesting is the 10 dash line that China is throwing out. Imagine that. The biggest bully in SEA.
total rubbish
China is lucky that it is not being punished deliberately for its role in the pandemic. It let the coronavirus spread unimpeded through international flights out of Wuhan. But domestically it clamped down on travel much sooner.
Not diplomatically, no, but that's mainly because there isn't a whole lot the world could do short of committing actual acts of war to punish China. The fun part is that we don't have to, because private corporations are punishing China way more effectively than governments could, simply by leaving.
I was university teaching in Ukraine 2019-2020 and in January 2020 we started getting messages that our Chinese students weren't returning and those students who'd spent Christmas in Odesa were panicked, trying to get back. I asked my Chinese what was going on and they said that there were reports from their families that there was a deadly flu in Wuhan and there were bodies on the streets. At the time, there were two Chinese doctors who reported the situation, but they disappeared, and WHO said there was nothing to worry about. The CCP and WHO colluded on suppressing news.
Serves us right for doing business with a dictatorship using slave labor.
Nice try for fake propaganda. What did China have to benefit in ‘releasing’ the virus? Illogical
do some more research before you just accuse any country. America unleashed this virus into the world because they want to destroy China. because they took over the world economy. that laboratory in Wuhan was funded by Fauchi. CIA itself got money to keep it hidden and lie. if you want more information. from the TH-cam channel redacted
The lady at the end of the video gave a level-headed concise summary of what ails the Chinese export-oriented economy. For decades, China relied and basked in "Made in China" exports which were cheap and made with low labor cost. They neglected innovation, the bottomline of which is research and development. Instead of making their own brand, they focused on stealing copyright and IP theft. Instead of investing in high-technology, they settled with reverse-engineering and the like. Now their short-sightedness is showing. That lady should give this lecture to those "patriotic" Chinese who thinks that dogma can feed people.
Communism and innovation do not mix. Communism punishes creativity and imagination. Your brain belongs to the regime.
even the CCP ended their "Made in China 2025" high-tech initiative
There are some well-informed people in China. Unfortunately, China's propaganda apparatus have fostered a different view. The Chinese government is very well aware of its dependencies and vulnerabilities. The U.S. along with its allies have urged China to open up its market, level the playing field in trade and investment, be more transparent in business and allowing outside observers, curb IP theft, enforce IP protection, eliminate forced IP transfers, stop forced slave labor, stop shipping illegal opiates and precursor substances, so on. China is not willing to accept none of that. The CCP is not willing to give in an inch as it would loosen their total control as well as given up on its ongoing gains. The West is also becoming more aware of China's unrestricted warfare and infiltration. China is no longer competive in labor along with its waning demograghic dividend and the enormous debt incured. Foreign businesses and investments are moving elsewhere. Xi Jin Ping knew China's best days are behind years ago, but refused any concessions and turning more inward. The economic decline would be less severe if the conditions were more favorable for the trading nations and their businesses and investors.
There are brilliant people in every country, those with means have already left China, those who can't will endure soul crushing communism.
@@icemann4699can sum what you said with one word. Greed
China often speaks of mutual benefit in development, but rarely actually considers the counter party.
It’s BRI projects are mostly for oil, gas and mineral extraction. It’s transportation projects don’t hire locals employees nor train locals to improve their job skills.
CCP: “You expected a return for your investment?!”
Everything they say that everyone must do means every other country do as they say, but not communist China.
@@peterseth3296the loans specifically state that Chinese companies must be used. So whatever money that isn't embezzled goes to Chinese companies go back to China, and these projects don't make money for the host country, which in turn end up not being able to repay the debt.
@@SinyaoMost of these programs and projects are proposed so that the CCP officials can siphon off the money through bribaries. Same shit happens in Vietnam, Mexico, Russia...
Never forget self interest. BRI was always about mutual deception. The CCP pretended it was not just about extending their interests, wealth and power and the poor countries pretended they would pay back the loans instead of treating the BRI as free money. CCP knew the loans would mostly not be paid back and that they would claim assets in lieu of repayment and increase their economic control on loan default. The winning country was always going to be the side whose unstated objective was closest to be achieved in the end. The true winners were the corrupt rulers and officials in the poor country who won either way. This was why the whole BRI was so popular and widely accepted.
It is saddening to see the people suffering from the massive economic downturn. The CCP is directly responsible for their plight. The situation will not improve so long as the evil and corrupt CCP remains in power. Time for the people to rise up and overthrow the CCP regime.
Those people had been condition to LOVE ccp no matter what.
It won't change until they have a significant self-reflection and overhaul of their culture. The fall of the CCP just leads to some princling bring about another one-party/imperial system.
Revolution requires an organized group behind it. With all the monitoring going on, anything remotely like that could only originate within the CCP itself if it has enough of Xi Jinping, or from organized crime (for the same reason)
Well said. Anyone studying supply chain management will need to take note on this new trend.
That analyst at the end of the video is BY FAR the smartest person I've heard from China! Who wants to bet that the CCP will label her as a dissident... 😕
Definitely will "disappear."
That's true, but also a bit ironic since she's an AI generated bot. She does not exist. The message does though. Unfortunately, it gives "her" whole speech an air of cheap CCP propaganda itself.
They used to be the strongest in manufacturing
WOW, I could stand to hear a lot more of what that woman who appeared in the final segment has to say.
If only the CCP had ears to hear her.
It's hard to square these 'collapse' videos with the small percentage point drops in the official figures. As for the apparent de-industrialisation of China's workshops towns it's reminiscent of the similar de-industrialisation in the 70s and 80s in Europe and the US. Only it seems to be happening a lot faster.
The world buys a lot more optional extra things today than 50 years ago. So many of these factories can see business dry up so fast.
I do t trust the official figures. I think China’s GDP is more in the $12-14 trillion range.
Official numbers are total fabrications. Heck its the CCP do you think they ever tell truth?. If the big boys are pulling out then you can bet al the smaller fish that used to feed off them are dying out. But do not expect the official numbers to match just watch the big crashes of places like evergrand or country garden.
You will doubtless be aware the official figures are entirely fictitious, to delay the eventual explanations from officials with no explanations except the CCP propaganda. Unlike the deindustrialization that occurred elsewhere in the world, businesses and industries are abandoning China for other eastern countries rather than ceasing to exist.
well, it is better than the Brits, isn't it? LOL LOLO LOL LOL
Do you mean those "official" figures released by the CCP themselves?
President Xi wants the Chinese to be self reliant. the problem is the Chinese are transactional not relational. this is why they will struggle going forward.
Communist can not be self reliant or creative because of lack of freedom and agency.
Xi's "Made In China 2025" is pure fantasy, another giant L for Xi. Cai Xia, a professor of the history of CCP ideology, described modern China best. "The CCP looks fearsome from the outside, like some polished model of a totalitarian Stalinist dictatorship, but in fact it is fragile inside. . . . It has no way to handle the gaping mismatch between the ideology in its propaganda and the reality of its society." It's kaput.
Wow, the lady at the end really nailed it, her analysis was so clear-eyed and made so much sense!
China had its chance. It chose to keep menacing its neighboring countries and the west. It comes with a cost. They are now paying the cost. China encountered the perfect storm of factors, drought, floods, covid, supply chain issues, world inflation, housing market collapse inside China, etc... Along the way world woke up to the threat of continuing to depend on China for so many goods and realized they have other options.
Lady at the end knew whats up.
What china forgot into their strategy was that if factories moved from us to china, it means that the location of a factory is not set for good. Looks like they made everything into their power to afraid everyone so that the investors moved their factories somewhere else and rightfully so. Everyone with the right mind would go out of china. Its a big mess on almost every aspect.
Now that the goal is achieve, this is the result. Good job Xi Jiping such an awesome ''leader''
Once the factory would be set in Vietnam/India and mexico, it would stay there only if the situation stays the same. Low wages, low operation cost, stable political situation. If not it would go somewhere else and if there is no point of having a factory far away to export to product, its obvious that they would save the transportation cost and made everything in north america/europe/japan/korea since this is the stable consumer base.
That young lady at the end is wise beyond her years
We have different definitions for what's a classy lassy vs a middle-aged lady haha, though, I fully agree with you. She's smart, wise and correct. I also liked the way she finished off her rant. It was a true statement, it was bold and it had a funny flair🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😅😄
"Fist waving patriotic youth blaming US on everything", that would be Cultural Revolution II or the Boxer Rebellion II, whatever it is, total destruction of any private wealth in China!
i think is a computer image the girl not real
well, it is better than the Brits, isn't it? LOL LOLO LOL LOL
@@MSDGroup-ez6zk Just keep on posting the same thing, wumao. At least you're getting paid.
One thing I didn’t hear mentioned was the individual people of the US. Many, many of us US citizens are doing our best to avoid products made in China. Many of us try to find other options that are made elsewhere as much as possible. We hold the CCP responsible for the pandemic, as well as have very hard feelings toward the CCP, for the threats to the US, the spy balloons, the turmoil in the South China Sea, and the support they are giving Russia. The CCP thinks they can take and do whatever they want, and the US citizens don’t feel our government is doing enough about it. Therefore we each do what little we can to reduce our own contribution to the finances of the CCP. As individuals, we don’t have an effect, but when a great percentage of us follow the same plan, the effect grows immensely. Our companies are not going to order merchandise that isn’t selling.
Purposely releasing a bioweapon on the world tends to backfire for Dear Leader.
The CCP you mentioned should change to USA instead 😂
@@tfwee6304 pound sand wee wee, or just pound your wee wee!😅😂🤣
@@tfwee6304 How does it feel to work for the losing side?
Another reason is their human rights violations.
This woman should be in charge of China economic policies.
no, it needs to be a grumpy old man with a chip on his shoulder
I stopped buying Chinese made electronics from Amazon because of the very high defect rate. I can't be the only one!
Wow, the woman who appears and shares her thoughts around 19:26 is spot on. I think she's exactly right.
The world (and particularly China) is learning that you cannot arbitrarily shut down your economy and not expect major negative impacts. Rather than adapting to the challenge of Covid, much of the world just shut closed doors and shut down.
Many of these impacts are going to lead to permanent changes in many places. People who think that things will just go back to the way they were are in for a long and disappointing struggle.
Negative impacts only happen because of pesky minor details like debt and banks. Once communism is worldwide and CBDC prevails shutdowns can happen anytime dear leader dictates with no issues.
This is more than just the pandemic policy of Xi. It’s also the new “counter-espionage” policy of Xi which drive foreign companies out of China. Additionally, because of Xi’s desire to “conquer the world,” the west is decoupling from China resulting in its slow road toward economic isolation from the world. What you see in this video is the result.
Many countries shut down and bounced back. The length and severity of the shut down, plus foreign policy have been the instruments.
Just weld their doors shut again if anyone complains. 🤕
The lady is just speaking facts that everyone outside China already know. China is just refusing to acknowledge that it accumulate wealth and huge industries due to foreign investments. Once these foreign countries lose interest, they moved elsewhere. China's arrogant and combative approach on the international scene doesnt help either.
when you do nothing about the evil surrounding you because you're afraid of psychopaths or just want to 'not rock the boat' this is what you get every single time
Blah blah blah blah blah
@@trevortrevor6720
This is the level of discourse I've learned to expect from a wumao.
I'm amazed how well the governments brain washing works.
There are a lot of really smart people in China but the CCP has worked really hard to keep these smart people from actually using their brains to think for themselves.
Thank your fearless leader. Feel sorry for these hardworking people.
The telling phrase is: "no matter how crappy your product was, if you had the guts to sell it, someone would buy it". This is the Chinese attitude to business. I personally will not buy Chinese products if I can avoid it. Actually, I have been on a buy American kick for a long time. I have also consulted with companies that outsourced either components or whole products to China. When I am brought in it is because they have a problem with the Chinese production. Some of the smaller ones went out of business. One even offered to sell me the company, he was so desperate.
Most products sold to America are manufactured according to US joint venture specifications don't blame China for it's just a manufacturing hip !.
How's that wolf warrior diplomacy working out for you?
They're finding out that the West came up with an alternative name for it that's far more useful: "giant bag of dicks diplomacy."
Mostly just woof warrior now. They're playing dead.
19:22 this woman provided a great lecture to all so called experts. Four mins of listening to her talk is much more beneficial than listening to those economic experts.
China benefits greatly from globalization but itself very much going against it at all cost.
China also doesn’t like being bullied by western countries but doing it to other nations in the region.
Chinese people are paying the price for their government that they never elect to be their leader.
People from China don't know what has happened... Arrogance and Poor Workmanship and the world is sick of it and are taking their business and money elsewhere. China had it all in their hands China That is what Arrogance and Poor Workmanship gets you.
No worries. China will shine
dont beleive in this propaganda...
The world buys a lot more optional extra things today than 50 years ago. Times are hard and the works is worried about depending on China. So many of these factories can see business dry up so fast.
I don’t trust the official figures in Chinese GDP and it’s growth. I think China’s GDP is more in the $12-14 trillion range. I doubt that they will grow next year either.
With their constant currency devaluation they'll make Japan's 'Lost Decade' in the 1990's look like a vacation.
At one time the label "Made in Japan" was a synonym for "cheap or low tech." The Japanese fixed that problem over many years and became a powerhouse of manufacturing and processing. Japan developed its own high quality, cost effective, business and manufacturing culture and the world beat a path to its markets. Outside investors in China have also invested a lot in market research, IR&D, etc. They really do not like learning that their contract manufacturers have stolen that intellectual property (IP) with the aid of the Chinese government and courts, and used it to subsidize goods that compete with their own products, from golf clubs to microchips. To top that off, the CCP has targeted universities and companies outside of its borders for technologies useful for military purposes. Eventually, the risks to China's customers was not worth access to a cheap supply chain.
There is a difference between Japan and China. When the Japanese were trying to sell you something they weren't trying to scam you.
Still a lot of junk coming out of Japan, Korea, and Taiwan. But I get what you are saying, it's an exception, not a rule like with the Chinese.
I don't think so, growing up in the 80s and 90s in SE Asia and made in Japan is synonymous with quality products
Blah blah blah blah blah
By the 1970s, the products coming out of Japan were 90% high quality. Furthermore, Japan had created literally dozens of successful, innovative world-famous brands. You can name them all. China, after 50 years, still produces crap products (on their own), while their "brands" are all cheap rip-offs of Western companies, with cookie-cutter knock-off tech. How "innovative" is Alibaba, really? How "innovative" is Huawei? They aren't THIS is the difference. China's stuck forever in the MIDDLE INCOME TRAP!
That's what youth and arrogance gets you as a country
man, that last segment just gives me hope that the chinese people will start learning whats real for themselves
this is youtube, it is banned in china
Well, that lady at the end sure socked it to them.
USA is smart, moving all those manufacturers with serious pollution to foreign countries, not only enjoy low cost of labor, electricity, water…. also prevent its own land pollution.
Usa is suffering massively by loosing so much manufacturing, it has destroyed many parts of the usa
Good analysis. Thank you for the sharing.
In 2010 , I trained Shenzhen engineers . 2012 shut down manufacturing building ,shipped jobs to Shenzhen , laid off all.
beijing becomes bonjing
The last lady speaking is amazing how she can see so clearly!!!
Don't bite the hand that feeds you!
What is happening to arrogant powerful China?
This young lady knows what she's talking about, if China was smart they would be smart to hire this forward thinking young lady. 👌😎⚘️🇵🇷🇺🇲🎼
She is truly remarkable.
This channel provide onenof the best views of China's current situation.
Wow. Solid reporting. Listening to this reporting and others, it's hard to see a bright future for the people of China. Of course, the leadership and those associated with the party will be okay but it looks like a tough road for regular people. I know the Chinese people are strong and have endured so much in the past. I hope for a strong future for them. (Excellent translation by the way. I appreciate that the translation is not just word for word but done to match the expressions and normal speaking patterns of both Chinese and English speakers.)
Keep the excellent content coming. Great job ! Hen Hao
Especially nice finish. My American elder brother worked at Chinese universities in three cities in China of over 9 years. It was challenging enough as it was. Mr. Xi has become not only physically ill, he has become mentally ill. I can tell. China had better get rid of him before there is utter collapse. I harbor a great respect for the Chinese people from watching your channel. I hurt for the "common man."
Common man must take action.
Don't worry. The common man in other countries that don't disrespect agreements or IP, etc will benefit. There are common men and women in other countries who deserve a chance also.
A weak CCP in the long term is better for the world.
It's not only dictator Xi. The entire CCP is the problem.
Humans literally cannot handle the kind of power Xi Jinping and his dictator colleagues obtain without going crazy.
Lady said it all, insightful and very well thought out. Maybe Pooh and the goonies take notes and learn from her.
Curious if that last lady was Chinese national or maybe Taiwanese? If she is Chinese consider me emasculated be that lady has balls.
Will this impact many products that are in pre order status Items such as 1/6 figures?
If the lady at the end actually said what the translator spoke, she has since been 'ushered' into a 're-education' camp that specializes in organ donation.
Less likely if she's in Taiwan though. There's also beauty face filter and throwaway accounts which should provide some hidden identity 🤔
That last lady is so smart and aware of what is happening. Now that she has spoken I hope she stays safe
Old Chinese saying ‘ Dont bite the hand that feeds you’
Thanks for sharing.
Xi Jingping has lost the mandate of heaven....his time must end
I don't buy Chinese products these days, as there is always an alternative from a friendly country.
Lady at the end is SPOT ON!!!!!
Where are the little pinks saying China#1 now? WAIT DONT LEAVE MUH JOBS!!!
Yeah, that's the part of the Chinese collapse that I'm eagerly awaiting: the day all the commieboos eat crow over proclaiming China the next world superpower.
The economist at the end reminded me of Peter Zeihan, smart and intelligent
I am child of the outsourcing to china in the 1980's. Its going to get really bad in china. In 10 years, it will be worst then Detroit and Pittsburg. History of outsourcing is the same everywhere. Very poor people and violence follows.
Yes 100 percent, yet most of these idiots comments blame china.
It's a two way street. The fact that China has 1.1 ..1.2 billion people dosent register with most of the comments. Every coutry in the top 10 best lifestyle , health care etc have small populations as such.
So sad. CCP comes before mankind. Very pathetic and heart wrenching 😞
IS the winnie the pooh guy not watching the news? Does he just surround himself with sycophants and yes men? Why he is making such weird decisions?
Pooh had 😎 cool hair 😅
The honeymoon only lasts so long. It will be good to have reliable standards and quality back in the countries our manufacturers did not see the end game!
50 years is a long honeymoon
@@repardation7409 -A lot less that 50, more like 30 years as I see it from Oz.
@ShevillMathers 1971 they were recognised as the "real" china
The success of wolf diplomacy and Covid spread.
What went wrong to cause this precarious situation.... hmmm
Crazy, and sad what's obvious to outsiders is oblivious to insiders
Doesn’t seem like the last person is in China. Or that video will get taken down quickly.
Very very good
*What a waste and human tragedy.*
I was in Shenzhen in 2018 -2021 and I can guarantee that the real money saw all this coming somehow. When the Hong Kong border closed 'temporarily' some high-end businesses acted as if it was permanent - which it ended up being. What am I saying? I don't know. It's almost as if someone in CCP wants China to experience this financial collapse. So my question is, WHO is making the most money from China's financial plight? Answers below please.
Yep - Consequences of trust, its hard to regain.
The post pandemic uptick was back orders until customers choose better suppliers.
July 2023 is the first month that US import from Mexico surpass china. Import from both country are around 15% but china is downward from 20% and Mexico is rise from 10%. it seem that factory are relocate to Mexico and the trend is not stopping and Mexico will rise to 20% when China will down to less than 10%.
Business is a living, constant changing organism. It develops in the right place and will continue to develop in the place that suits best at that moment. So it will move. nationally and internationally. In my country we had a large textile industry, leather factories, shipbuilding and cigar factories. There is almost nothing left of it, but our industry still has a major shortage of personnel. Now we have a high-tech manufacturing and development industry. It will always be like this, and China will continue to develop and change. I've been there a few times and I think it's a beautiful country with very friendly people. I love that country.
PLEASE DONT EAT DOGS AND KILL THE DOGS ALL THEY ARE OUR FRIENDS
Don't be so ignorant. That's a a very small percentage of people that do that and that's in various countries. I haven't seen any dogs and cats on the menu in the Restaurants.
@@chicago2colombia ok am sorry
I was in Guangzhou in April and I didn't see anything that you are describing!
its obviously propaganda lmfaoo
The only positive aspect of this whole ordeal is that the Chinese get to breathe cleaner air since all the factories have closed......less smog and heat generated in cities have probably played a part in all the weird weather conditions that they have been experiencing
That does not help anyone that has lost their jobs and can't afford to live
Its no good to make food fake
CCP at its finest
Dont worry they in commy land where govt will look after them, they chose MAo Mao will help them
now u get it that woman at the end finished the story
aint no coming back, ITS OVER.
A moment of silence for all the good-natured, hard-working Chinese souls who worked to live a better life but died because of disease, fire, flood, lack of food, emergency response, medical facilities and safe infrastructure because the CCP spent the money on PLA, BRI and covert infiltration into foreign governments and cultures to gain control. Without the influx of direct foreign investment the grim prospects are a return to famine and poverty. It's easy to predict the shabby and unsafe apartments that were built by the millions will start to degrade and fail (injuring/killing some citizens) within the next 10-15 years. Sad story.
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GEN Z Chinese blame U.S. well take a number boyos that list is long
Blame U.S. for what? Not buying, finding cheaper goods, buying elsewhere? That is business ! Not communism !
@@linmal2242 No, I believe he's saying that when things go wrong in a country, they blame the US...rather than their own policies and actions.
its not because of military only though... mainly some of the big players moved out because of what happened during the recent events as well... where they killed off 90% of production and exports in china all of a sudden.... the big players immediately tried to find other countries to diversify their production plants locations for the coming years in case this happens again.... the military and the US's government public stance only accelerated the eventuality of this happening much faster to the point that it all happened and ended in 3 years instead of slowly moving production out of china in 5-10 years time..... and instead of reducing the prominence of using china's production capacity in that time frame of 5-10 years, now all of them have pulled out of using china's production capacity within these 3 years instead...
Wolf Warrior Diplomacy was an epic fail for Dear Leader.
I don’t think it be wise for China to think about exporting cars, especially electric cars. There’s a distrust between us. We don’t want China having any of our data.
I would just point out that in the US, we have a terrible shortage of BBQ fish, dim sum, noodle and bad restaurants. Skilled cooks could come here and make a fortune.
Visa would be impossible
Source from your local Cantonese population, who saw the writing on the wall decades ago and left for North America.
Where I live in Cali has dim sum everywhere 🤔
@@Sinyao They haven't set up restaurants.
@@nelsonta00 Yeah, but most of the US doesn't.
The 20- End was very clearly explained by the Madam.
I feel India should not fall into this western trap.
Domestic market with World class products should what India should aim for and Create World class products and brands
I love the woman at the end. Her level-headedness about the economy and manufacturing is great and i wish to see more of her stances. I bet she's already on a CCP watchlist; she needs to be protected.
Isn't this terrible ! What will they do ?
Reminds me of how far the S.F., CA economy has fallen. Possibly even more dramatic. Luxury commercial real estate in S.F. is failing. Retail is closing en masse!
Direct result of Putin's WW3 in Europe - War accelerates dystopian mechanisms, especially a war of this scale 🤨😐
I hope someone will listen to this lady and change things. I feel sorry for the Chinese people. Some of my friends lost their jobs too.
What about the Internal Market? That's where the business is in the first instance. And that's where the power countries build up their economies.
The woman is AI generated
Hardly affordable labor now. Thanks real estate market.
God B;ess the People...........F the CCP