I have W900 for 6 months. Dudes, maybe it's only me but it is insanely good and comfortable. Im not using my LP, Schecter and Jackson anymore. Great review btw!
Seems like in particular the headless models are basically the perfect travel rig. Just the guitar and some headphones, and you've got access to all your sounds on the go.
I like the technology and teenage me would probably be foaming at the mouth for this. Current me would be so confused at this in a live setting that I would be playing a fuzzed out banjo accidentally. This would be incredible as a travel guitar though.
I have a Peavey AT-200 I bought over 10 years ago. All the electronic gadgetry and software has been long since abandoned but I'm still happy with it because even its most basic mode it's still a decent guitar for its era and price point. At one point they were selling them off at €200 each to get rid of them but out the box they seemed compable to €500-€600 non-smart guitars, before you add in the extra features/gimmicks. It seems like these Mooer guitars are in a similar value point for the current market.
Wow... I wish I were 60 years younger again... Back then I had a wooden thing that was a kind of guitar. I learned a few chords on it. With a modern monster like these GTRS guitars from Mooer I would probably have had a lot of fun and would perhaps be a better guitarist today.
Its the only guitar you need for gigging and doing covers. WOW factor. If you are a studio you might have 50 of the best guitars hanging on the wall. Game over / changer.
I have a W900 for a year now, and in my tiny 25m² apartment it's an amazing guitar where i also use all the digital effects all the time as it is the entire rig until i can afford a bigger apartment and more gear. it's also incredibly portable. It's rather light, with it being headless also a tad shorter, and it's my entire rig, i don't need to pickup anything else or wire it up. Mooer also put the App .apk file on their website, so i grabbed that and saved that away, so i can always install it no matter whether it's officially available or not.
I love to build pedals into my guitars! I have an od fuzz and delay pedals compacted into my current offset style but it required mapping out 3 battery compartments. This is right up my alley, I'm just a little put off by the headless ones (looks so strange to me!) and the standard headstock could use a little re-design as well
The M800 series is a good deal. Great guitar specs by any standards at a pretty reasonable price. Now add to that the whole signal processing thing and the endless possibilities and it becomes a true bargain. That's some good stuff.
I don't know if I even want all the gadgets in the guitar but just the shape of the GTRS M800 version is worth buying in itself. They should do more cool and wacky shapes than only the strat, given that it's trying to be every guitar anyway.
I was at my local guitar shop this morning and the sales guy pointed out these Mooer guitars, but they were priced at $2000AUD! Now, seeing them at Andertons for £350 (which is about $675AUD) is mind blowing.
Now you guys got me considering whether I should sell my Sire LP to get a guitar that can emulate an LP & more 🤦♂ The green & gold hardware is something I need in my collection😩
Beautiful guitars with very cool tech. If they'd have included real guitar modeling (acoustics, 12-strings, etc..) I'd have been an instant sale. I'll keep my Variax/Helix for now.
I have the GTRS Modern 800 DPP and the foot pedal. It is an absolute delight!! I have the app on my iPad. Hours of fun and some amazing sounds. Thanks guys! The gigbag is the only bad thing about it. Ugly!!
No I wouldn’t buy/need one myself… BUT! A person teaching guitar, a newcomer to guitar that can’t get the pedalboard or amps etc, busker on the road, someone learning to record or get inspiration. Better yet son or daughter with some headphones able to chill in their room and learn. Bloody good idea. We have all seen the small amps that don’t sound amazing or are not loud enough or the app is kinda crap or all of the above. Having something like this and plugging into an interface or FRFR or headphones is low key genius. I’m 36 when i was a kid this sort of thing would have been AMAZING. For the price i think its a game changer for a newcomer and its a REAL guitar not just a gimmick like some out there
I just bought one and so far it’s not my dream guitar. None of the reviews seem to cover the reality of using the software and with no manual its guesswork and not very user friendly (IMO). Mine constantly loses Bluetooth connection and that’s if it connects at all. Typically it takes 3 or 4 attempts before connecting to my iPad Pro or iPhone 14 max pro. Only a week so far but not looking like the minimalist solution I had hoped for. Great concept and a fair quality base guitar for the price.
Cool. All the effects built in. That's better than the Variax Guitar. I would buy the mooer immediately if it had, like the Variax, acoustic sounds, 12-string guitar, dobro, banjo… And in the reviews I didn't see the Variax's ability to get an open tuning (or any tuning you like) by just switching to a preset.
I was thinking about this recently as I occasionally go to Blues Jams and other open mics and showcases to promote myself and meet potential bandmates and I have to deal with whatever backline is provided, or not, and I was thinking that a guitar with pedalboard built in would be a good thing to own for these types of circumstances. Since its anywhere from 2 to 3 songs I don't want to lug a bunch of gear anywhere.
The headphones would be a good idea for students in college with roommates or someone that works crazy hours and wants to play while rest of the family is asleep
Question. What happens with all these app-based rigs when a software glitch or crash occurs in the middle of a gig? Do you just have to stop everything and reboot stuff or whatever or are there failsafes? Do you need to have all the pedals and whatever else anyway as a backup? Like, a broken string or a blown amplifier can quickly be swapped while the rest of the band keep playing, but fixing software crashes and bugs can be a real pain and take a while with any device, and the more stuff you have linked up via software, the more can go wrong.
It would be cool if the pickup selector switch allowed you to change everything (drums, tempo, which pickups, amp model, effects, volume, etc). I assume they could do that with software?
At some point, a musical instrument manufacturer, is going to really, really invent a set of equipment that makes 99% of what came before completely redundant.
I think it's probably a P2 under the scratchplate. I've got a P2. It's a very good headphone amp. I have no idea how it'd amplify up through other systems.
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Can you program in the HANK MARVIN EARLY 60S SOUND WITH ECHO AND REVERB. I HAVE SPARK AMP WITH BLUETOOTH WIRELESS PEDAL WILL THIS WORK AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE Mooer gets 80 guitar. Thankyou
My Variax is totally essential for my gigs (musical theatre) to cover multiple solid-bodies, archtop and steel-string guitars in a single instrument. Sad that they’re discontinued after 15 years, and still not quite sure this is flexible enough…
What a great idea, I want one! I wonder what happens if you set an effect on the super knob then put it through an effects pedal as well, are we creating new sounds here?
I guess so - the sound you're hearing in the video is whats coming out the guitar, so if we put that into a pedal then the pedal will change that sound too...
Fender should have built the Mustang Micro Plus into a guitar. I've been trying to figure out how to do it myself. I have a GTRS, and have found that the Wilkinson tremolo does not allow the guitar to stay in tune. Bending a string or using the tremolo bar takes it out of tune radically.
Is there anyone here that remembers the Fender “Personality Cards” video that Lee & Rob did decades ago? How times have changed. I think Lee got high on that one, sniffing the cavities 😂
it's so funny how tech has gotten so good that the guitar industry is re-hashing old ideas, but good. i remember the all-in-one guitars of old and they were awful! these sound great!
Baby shark over ACDC is the kind of improv nonsense I aspire to be able to create.
That’s why Danish Pete is the man
Its fuggin genius
Well, baby shark over ACDC was not something I ever thought would work. I still don't want it to honestly.
With a rebel yell, she cried mooer mooer mooer😊
I didn't want to love this comment, but I did.
It’s got an entire sound kitchen on board! Including the kitchen sync!
🤣🤣🤣
We need Mooer reviews like this..
Well played
Love seeing demos of the atypical stuff that doesn’t get as much attention as the bigger brands.
Lee’s playing has improved light years! It’s his feel ! 🎉
Ok, that dark blue headless one actually looks PRETTY SICK!!
The second guitar I owed was a Vox Phantom with built-in FX and I often wondered why this technology was never advanced, now it has.
I have W900 for 6 months. Dudes, maybe it's only me but it is insanely good and comfortable. Im not using my LP, Schecter and Jackson anymore. Great review btw!
Unbelievable what they’re capable of doing now! Very cool video.
ac/dc riff with bad company tone and a baby shark solo! magic
Pete playing baby shark over a pseudo ac dc riff is hilarious!
Wow, Lee's been practicing. Looked much more comfortable soloing then I've seen in the past (imo)
Jesus Christ how often is this comment gonna get rehashed?
@@Stoffendousrelax internet guy
I like where Mooer is going. gives more spice to guitar world and it has a decent price!
A nearly perfect practice rig, all in one package.
And it sounds surprisingly good.
Thanks as always, Lee and Pete!
All this for 600 quid is bonkers but brilliant 😳👍
It’s amazing the amount of legit decent gear that’s available for just a little bit of money these days.
That intro is a top ten intro for this channel.
Seems like in particular the headless models are basically the perfect travel rig. Just the guitar and some headphones, and you've got access to all your sounds on the go.
It's perfect for that. The headstock is a little uncomfortable, though. It gets in the way of the first fret positions.
What an incredible piece of tech that still respects a great guitar
I like the technology and teenage me would probably be foaming at the mouth for this. Current me would be so confused at this in a live setting that I would be playing a fuzzed out banjo accidentally. This would be incredible as a travel guitar though.
The amount of tech for the price and the guitar looking decent makes this exciting for future guitar stuff
I love seeing Pete play some metal. Gives an idea of what a guitar sounds like with one of us mear mortals playing.
I have a Peavey AT-200 I bought over 10 years ago. All the electronic gadgetry and software has been long since abandoned but I'm still happy with it because even its most basic mode it's still a decent guitar for its era and price point. At one point they were selling them off at €200 each to get rid of them but out the box they seemed compable to €500-€600 non-smart guitars, before you add in the extra features/gimmicks. It seems like these Mooer guitars are in a similar value point for the current market.
Wow... I wish I were 60 years younger again... Back then I had a wooden thing that was a kind of guitar. I learned a few chords on it. With a modern monster like these GTRS guitars from Mooer I would probably have had a lot of fun and would perhaps be a better guitarist today.
Its the only guitar you need for gigging and doing covers. WOW factor. If you are a studio you might have 50 of the best guitars hanging on the wall. Game over / changer.
I have a W900 for a year now, and in my tiny 25m² apartment it's an amazing guitar where i also use all the digital effects all the time as it is the entire rig until i can afford a bigger apartment and more gear.
it's also incredibly portable. It's rather light, with it being headless also a tad shorter, and it's my entire rig, i don't need to pickup anything else or wire it up.
Mooer also put the App .apk file on their website, so i grabbed that and saved that away, so i can always install it no matter whether it's officially available or not.
I love my MOOER Groove Loop x2: very nice drums, and theres LOOTS of patterns & variations ...
Been playing an Alesis X guitar for decades and was able to customize about 5 patches to be used in a live gig. All effects on board.
Pretty nice range, at decent prices, and a mental set of features!!
I have watched the La Bamba movie a billion times and never got bored. The movie is a masterpiece.
Look to be very well made! I can see this as a great home studio or a studio guitar for ideation and music writting.
I love to build pedals into my guitars! I have an od fuzz and delay pedals compacted into my current offset style but it required mapping out 3 battery compartments. This is right up my alley, I'm just a little put off by the headless ones (looks so strange to me!) and the standard headstock could use a little re-design as well
I don't really need this, but I think it is very cool! It looks like a heap of fun.
Funny how that patch is called Mordern hi gain , either it’s inspired by lord of the rings , or spell check messed up 🤘🏼
The M800 series is a good deal.
Great guitar specs by any standards at a pretty reasonable price.
Now add to that the whole signal processing thing and the endless possibilities and it becomes a true bargain.
That's some good stuff.
Glorious intro jam \m/
Game changer for beer garden/patio soloists everywhere
I don't know if I even want all the gadgets in the guitar but just the shape of the GTRS M800 version is worth buying in itself. They should do more cool and wacky shapes than only the strat, given that it's trying to be every guitar anyway.
Guitar+amp = happy! Cool concept but it would trigger my ocd
I was at my local guitar shop this morning and the sales guy pointed out these Mooer guitars, but they were priced at $2000AUD! Now, seeing them at Andertons for £350 (which is about $675AUD) is mind blowing.
Now you guys got me considering whether I should sell my Sire LP to get a guitar that can emulate an LP & more 🤦♂
The green & gold hardware is something I need in my collection😩
After the first 15 seconds: Auto upvote hah, Baby shark!
*By the way, 'The Captain' has been improving his chops like mad lately!
This isn’t reddit
@@rtxf You would think it would be given your petulant response! :O
@@eduardomartin8510 You definitely think it would be given you used the word petulant.
@@topnug7626 like ok professor lol
@@rtxf Class is in session. 🤓
It is like a evolution of the variax guitar system
I wasn't aware these had guitar sims. The multieffects are a pass for me, but as a Variax owner, I'm very interested in the guitar modeling
Beautiful guitars with very cool tech. If they'd have included real guitar modeling (acoustics, 12-strings, etc..) I'd have been an instant sale. I'll keep my Variax/Helix for now.
Depending on how they're doing the p'up modeling it honestly just an update away, though.
@@wickid_chyld I think they would have needed a piezo loaded bridge though.
I have the GTRS Modern 800 DPP and the foot pedal. It is an absolute delight!! I have the app on my iPad. Hours of fun and some amazing sounds. Thanks guys! The gigbag is the only bad thing about it. Ugly!!
There's a Chappers challenge waiting to happen... Lee programs different guitars into the pup selector switch and Rob has to guess them.
Yes! without Chappers knowing its a digital guitar. 👹
This would be great for recording at home
On the contrary, I think this is AMAZING for plug and play live shows and teaching
@@LoftyAssertions 2 things can be true
@@ethanstewart4222 That's right mate
This could be the perfect travel/just in case guitar (especially the headless version).
They need to make a travel guitar with this tech. It would be the ultimate compact practice kit for on the go.
No I wouldn’t buy/need one myself… BUT! A person teaching guitar, a newcomer to guitar that can’t get the pedalboard or amps etc, busker on the road, someone learning to record or get inspiration. Better yet son or daughter with some headphones able to chill in their room and learn. Bloody good idea. We have all seen the small amps that don’t sound amazing or are not loud enough or the app is kinda crap or all of the above. Having something like this and plugging into an interface or FRFR or headphones is low key genius. I’m 36 when i was a kid this sort of thing would have been AMAZING. For the price i think its a game changer for a newcomer and its a REAL guitar not just a gimmick like some out there
I just bought one and so far it’s not my dream guitar. None of the reviews seem to cover the reality of using the software and with no manual its guesswork and not very user friendly (IMO).
Mine constantly loses Bluetooth connection and that’s if it connects at all. Typically it takes 3 or 4 attempts before connecting to my iPad Pro or iPhone 14 max pro. Only a week so far but not looking like the minimalist solution I had hoped for. Great concept and a fair quality base guitar for the price.
These have been around for quite some time, always wondered why Andertons never stocked them
Cool. All the effects built in. That's better than the Variax Guitar. I would buy the mooer immediately if it had, like the Variax, acoustic sounds, 12-string guitar, dobro, banjo… And in the reviews I didn't see the Variax's ability to get an open tuning (or any tuning you like) by just switching to a preset.
That app interface is what Boss Katana should aspire to. The ease of use looks amazing. Did it pair with no issues?
Great... Is it possible to have the bridge pickup in all 5 switch positions but with other presets programmed?
They look awesome! Having had a quick search, it looks like there's not a lefty model. Anything on the horizon?
I was thinking about this recently as I occasionally go to Blues Jams and other open mics and showcases to promote myself and meet potential bandmates and I have to deal with whatever backline is provided, or not, and I was thinking that a guitar with pedalboard built in would be a good thing to own for these types of circumstances. Since its anywhere from 2 to 3 songs I don't want to lug a bunch of gear anywhere.
If I was still gigging a lot, this would be very tempting. Plug a wireless into it, straight into the board, and you're done.
Thanks guys! Love your work.
Jeff 🇦🇺🇺🇲✌️🙂 I'm bound to be a 10k sub 😁.
The headphones would be a good idea for students in college with roommates or someone that works crazy hours and wants to play while rest of the family is asleep
Question. What happens with all these app-based rigs when a software glitch or crash occurs in the middle of a gig? Do you just have to stop everything and reboot stuff or whatever or are there failsafes? Do you need to have all the pedals and whatever else anyway as a backup? Like, a broken string or a blown amplifier can quickly be swapped while the rest of the band keep playing, but fixing software crashes and bugs can be a real pain and take a while with any device, and the more stuff you have linked up via software, the more can go wrong.
What are you listening through? Thanks for the review
What an amazing and different concept.
So they are Line6 Variacs then with more options and with the void since Line6 stopped making guitars
Not quite. No tuning changes
Baby shark/Jimmy Page style well done Pete👍🏿😊
Who remembers when line 6 tried this back in the day?
It would be cool if the pickup selector switch allowed you to change everything (drums, tempo, which pickups, amp model, effects, volume, etc). I assume they could do that with software?
As long as there is a Pitch shifter I am sold, I am to used to swapping between D and C# Standard on my plugin
At some point, a musical instrument manufacturer, is going to really, really invent a set of equipment that makes 99% of what came before completely redundant.
Only problem is the battery itself, how will it be after 10 years. Will there be batteries available still? Or just ewaste whole guitar
I think it's probably a P2 under the scratchplate. I've got a P2. It's a very good headphone amp. I have no idea how it'd amplify up through other systems.
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I'm surprised squier/fender or Yamaha/line 6 haven't introduced something like this.
Can you program in the HANK MARVIN EARLY 60S SOUND WITH ECHO AND REVERB. I HAVE SPARK AMP WITH BLUETOOTH WIRELESS PEDAL WILL THIS WORK AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE Mooer gets 80 guitar. Thankyou
Do the electronic internals make it heavy?
Hard to say if it's just a heavier guitar or its the battery and electronics. It's definitely heavier than traditional strats I've played sise by side
I’ve not found it any heavier than my various strats at least not that you’d notice.
Seems like the Variax, but thought a little further :)
My Variax is totally essential for my gigs (musical theatre) to cover multiple solid-bodies, archtop and steel-string guitars in a single instrument. Sad that they’re discontinued after 15 years, and still not quite sure this is flexible enough…
It would be great if the output was a XLR type
What a great idea, I want one! I wonder what happens if you set an effect on the super knob then put it through an effects pedal as well, are we creating new sounds here?
I guess so - the sound you're hearing in the video is whats coming out the guitar, so if we put that into a pedal then the pedal will change that sound too...
If this did alternate tunings like the Boss GK I'd buy the headless and never look back.
this is Great! no extra pedals ! l think your going to sell many of these !
Damn learning music and licks. Over the years it seemed complicated enough.
I'd love a lefty version of those headless models. Shame there is no option again
I’m waiting for the Holstein finish!
Is the input/output panel plastic on the S800 level and metal on the P80xxxx?
anyone know if there is a lefty version of the p800?
The car sale men of music equipment where everything's great man 🤣
Fender should have built the Mustang Micro Plus into a guitar. I've been trying to figure out how to do it myself. I have a GTRS, and have found that the Wilkinson tremolo does not allow the guitar to stay in tune. Bending a string or using the tremolo bar takes it out of tune radically.
It would be cool if Mooer Gtr designed a traverler version of these guitars. Design it to be light weight.
Great review. Thanks~now I have GAS again! Where can I get the pedal, and what is it called?
This has a use case for someone I’m sure, but I also think the phrase “just because you can, doesn’t mean you should” would apply here. Haha
Variax?
Is there anyone here that remembers the Fender “Personality Cards” video that Lee & Rob did decades ago? How times have changed. I think Lee got high on that one, sniffing the cavities 😂
They will also play direct into Mooer amps. No cables!
Only the wireless ones will do that... S900 & W900 models I think.
You get alot for your money, crazy good value!
Do they do bass guitar as well?
Let's have a kit to retro-fit any guitar please!...
There will be a point in history, when this is the standard and any guitar without it will be regarded as antique
it's so funny how tech has gotten so good that the guitar industry is re-hashing old ideas, but good. i remember the all-in-one guitars of old and they were awful! these sound great!