gaming has changed. It's no longer about players, unlocks, or enjoyment. It's an endless series of proxy battles fought by corporations and players. Gaming - and its false promise of finished games - has become a profit machine. Gaming has changed. DLC packs, Players buy un-finished games, use online transactions. energy drinks inside their bodies enhance and regulate their abilities. micro transactions control. useless DLC bundle control, player control. Gaming control. Everything is half assed and kept under control. Gaming has changed.
That part put my in my feels 😢 not to mention he got the shit beat out of him shortly after.I lost it when he put the gun in his mouth. I haven't been so attached to a fictional character (I was 10 when I started playing MGS) until Arthur Morgan showed up.
School has changed. It's no longer about learning, making friends, or even having fun. It's an endless cycle of grades gained from all nighters and black coffee.
@@Edgeworth992 School - and it’s consumption of free time - has become a well oiled machine. School has changed. Standardized students do standardized homework, study standardized tests.
Everything is indeed proxies, since the 1960s America was controlling Iran, Afghanistan, ect through proxy leaders... And now the world is fighting back with their own proxies.
The nanomachine subplot is one of the greatest, most well-built social criticisms ever. Since it's a system that's planted inside a soldier that regulates damn-near everything the man does, it kinda corelates back to the internet in general. The news we read are controlled. The comments we make are controlled. The videos we post are controlled. *The age of trolling has become the age of control.*
"The age of deterrence has become the age of war" after having played through MGS3, Portable Ops, Peacewalker and Ground zeroes that line is more meaningful than before.
Memes have changed. It's no longer about comedy, ideologies, or creativity. It's an endless series of proxy battles, fought by shitposters and corporations. Memes -- and their conjurance of trends -- have become a well-oiled machine. Memes... have changed. hash-tagged users follow hash-tagged trends, use hash-tagged messages. Emojis within their text enhance and regulate their material. Information control, emotion control, memetic control... everything is monitored and kept under control. Memes have changed. The age of self-broadcasting has become the age of control, all in the name of connecting everyone through social media, and he who controls the website, controls the people. Memes... have changed. When the internet is under total control, memes become routine.
comedy has changed. it's not about being funny, or making someone smile, its not even made for the fun of it. it's an endless mountain of unfunny and unbased cringe, made by karma whores and attention seekers. comedy and its vast consumption of human creativity, has become a well oiled machine, where there is only unbased and incel cringe. comedy has changed. neckbeards make memes on a server, with power tripping mods, where they ban people for going against the echo chamber based cringe in their veins enhance their ego, and make them unfunny and cringe femboy control... information control... emotion control... subreddit control. everything is monitored, and kept under control. comedy has changed. The age of mlg pro gmaer shrek and harambe and we are number one is now the age of unbased attention seekers, averting the based from memes of originality. and he who controls the subreddit, controls history. comedy has changed. when the subreddit is under full control by the mods. comedy has become routine.
It's still so jaw dropping when the camera just focuses on Snake and the HUD just fades in. "Now you're in control" (until you crawl under the truck, now it's another cutscene)
Love this game. An old soldier on a final mission whilst his worn out body slowly deteriorates after so many battles. Probably my favourite video game character with Nathan Drake a close 2nd.
@@chrisquiett1776it's really only because of the long cutscenes from what I understand, also the fact that the cutscenes possibly are longer then the game itself but I could be wrong
@@aspart2842 No it isn't, if it was it would be a regional war at this point, not a economic war waged by both sides. If nations still existed then the US wouldn't be as fucked as it is.
This is why MGS is my favourite saga. My favourite character is Big Boss, he's a broken man who was only taught to be a gun. His only goal in life was to fight. He was a terrorist and a villain but he fought for what he thought was correct. On the other hand is Solid Snake. He's also a broken man but whose goal in life was to stop wars. My ideology is nearer to Solid Snake.
More like - "Soldiers of Fortune"/Mercenaries (and EU and USA's PMC) and Russian PMC "Wagner's Group" intensifies. And proxy war - mean a info-war with some degree of battles. Which means - Battle of "Fake News". And yes, it exist - MGS 2 was mention in the end - how USA ("The Patriots") and other world - trying to cenzor information in internet, or control that by Fake News and "AI System" (Facebook and Twitter Factchecking Bot's system are - a example). Funny how you people - didn't learn from that games, but trying to be clever and funny.
I remember fondly. It was August 31st, 2009. I was just about to turn 17. I just got home from Gamecrazy with my brand new Playstation 3 Slim, along with a copy of Grand Theft Auto 4 and Metal Gear Solid 4: Gunds of the Patriots. I hooked everything up to my small 19' MAGNAVOX 720P Television that had a small 2.1 Altec Lansing stereo system plugged into for better sound. I turned on my new playstation 3, wen't through the set-up screen and put my copy of Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots. I booted it up and I was immediately blown away by how amazingly good the graphics were during the install screen where Old Snake just stands there smoking a cigarette. Once the opening cutscene (Which is this) played out, I was immediately captivated. The Music that played and then hearing Old Snake speak for the first time! It definetely changed my life, if not just making a huge impact on me. I couldn't believe I had finally got myself a copy of this. Seriously one the best video games ever!
That's the kind of emotion that you never get to experience anymore nowadays. Very rarely I find games that give me such excitement and that i look forward to. They're all a cashgrab nowadays. Very sad, I remember going back home with a copy of MGS3, same feeling.
Probably the best monologue in a video game. This would be an incredible movie as it really hits close to home with what is happening in the world today in 2023.
Honestly, I feel like the statement on how war has changed was remarkably on point. I think that in an effort to make war more "humane" we've caused it to become horrific. War used to be about killing your enemies. Now, when we've forgotten that, we've caused the age of forever war. The age of deterrence was a greatly peaceful era in human history. And what is it now?
Hi, I just wanted to let you know that I read "the age of deterrence" in your comment just as Snake was saying it in the video. That's it, there's nothing clever that I have to say.
“The feeding ramp is polished to a mirror sheen. The slide’s been reinforced. And the interlock with the frame is tightened for added precision. The sight system is original, too. The thumb safety is extended to make it easier on the finger. A long-type trigger with non-slip grooves. A ring hammer… The base of the trigger guard’s been filed down for a higher grip. And not only that, nearly every part of this gun has been expertly crafted and customized
Hideo Kojima, a man who really understands what "The Times" mean. Understanding how each era changes, due to revolutionary inventions, or catastrophic wars. Sometimes these video games or movies or whatever entertainment you consume is actually where you learn life's most important lessons. Now think, these are also the things that are slowly changing as you know, "The Times" change....
I've always felt that above all else Hideo Kojima understands politics. Listen to the conversations that happen in the codecs in the context of what year they were made. He always has been drastically ahead of the curve.
Fortnite has changed. It's no longer about being OG, bush strats, or sky bases. It's an endless series of build battles fought by sweats and pro players. Fortnite - and its consumption of life - has become a well-oiled machine. Fortnite has changed.
As a Marine who was stationed in Japan, and visited Hiroshima and Nagasaki, this is the best I got: "I hate war as only a soldier who has lived it can, only as one who has seen its brutality, its futility, its stupidity". - Dwight D. Eisenhower
@@TheWorldsOkayestUSMarine it is understandable talking about what happened irl but please don't compare fictional story to what happened with real life as irl is very different from what's portrayed in media
@Layde360 Did you not read my comment? I served 8 years in the Marine Corps, been to 15+ different countries across 3 continents. I'll compare whatever I want. Get out of your Mommy's basement. BTW, Bungou Stray Dogs is boring and unoriginal.
@@TheWorldsOkayestUSMarine yet in all that comparison westerners fail to understand why wars are fought in the first place i.e to preserve ones Empire, westerners have a naive understanding of saying war is bad yet they do actions which initiate war in the first place by discrimination, corruption and pushing ideological rhetorics as to use people against each other to gain power, westerners are provided this ideal way of thinking as good and bad and then they also use grey elements and claim others as lesser evil yet for us foreigners it's all the same instead of quoting colonial Presidents who will talk all philosophy but do the opposite of what they preach maybe westerners should stop worshiping their leaders or philosophers who just talk nonsense rhetorics as to take them away from the fact that all their philosophy is only quoted to make money for them
As a kid, for the first time, I really felt like I was a part of the battle. From the beginning to the end, hearing the recorded screams and shots, and even explosions. It all felt like friends, really. Getting immersed in that was great for the game experience, and putting myself in the shoes of the rebels.
MGS4, for all its ups and downs, is still a pretty good game. It’s not the best metal gear game, and I wouldn’t say it has the best story out of the metal gear games, but there’s really not many other games like it today.
I mean, an AI is constructed by rules provided by the programmer. If your AI is telling you to run into the line of fire regardless of casualties, you have failed at designing and building a helpful AI.
Interestingly, most AI chess/Go programs are very materialistic, meaning that they’re moreso interested in racking up the enemy’s casualties than their own. The problem is positioning, whereby AIs tend to be put into poor positions that permit the opponent to gain the upper hand.
as someone who has played MGSV, I'm guessing this means there's way more emotion in MGS4? which is alright, since this is meant to be the finale of the series (Revengence is at the end of the timeline and is canon) and I'm playing the games in chronological order. so this'll be fun to get to once i'm done with MGSV, and Metal Gear 1, Metal Gear 2 as well as Metal Gear Solid and Metal Gear Solid 2.
@@Jack-cf7wm Eh you're free to interpret as you want, it ties into a plot point that wasn't explored in MGS4, which was the effect of the war economy going away and what PMCs may try to do to bring it back.
War has changed so drastically over the years, and yet, it's stayed exactly the same. We may have moved from sticks and stones, but the will to conquer and sieze more than what we're allotted will stay in our nature for eternity.
Playing Phantom Pain makes this even darker. Parasites became nanomachines, manipulating everyone, and the PFs of the 70s and 80s expanded to 2014's PMCs. It's even more relevant in today's geopolitical situations. Also imagine if the NPCs spoke Arabic or other Middle Eastern languages...like how MGSV brings mother tongues in-game
It's an even better scene with the context of past metal gear games since it shows the absolute low point in the timeline that the series built up to since metal gear 2: solid snake
I know people are supposed to agree with fallout that "war never changes" but honestly as life progresses further solid Snake's dialogue about how "War has changed" is more relevant especially how everything is now monitored and kept under control... Even in the real world we are becoming the age of tyrannical monitoring and control
War never changes in the idea that war will never end as long as humans are around, but the way wars are fought has changed and will continue to change.
@@woresor So basically fallouts message of "war never changes" simply because humanity exists.... Very simplistic and to the point. While on the flip side Metal gear solids message on "War has changed" delves into how war is being fought and how it evolves. *However* there's an argument to be met that if War becomes routine. Has the original motives of War changed? Because then it's no longer "War" anymore, and once it's become eroded and become "routine" it's become something else.
Fallout's statement is about on " why" we go to war, which ultimately never changed, it's part of human nature. MGS's statement is about how wars are fought, which changes with each technological milestone we reach.
@@xamhehehe7888You are getting the entirely wrong message from fallout. The first fallout even directly states that as long as finite resources are around, humanity will fight to get them to stay alive.
Fair statement. Witcher franchise has masterpiece story. MGS has better BUT If we count The WItcher books, then it is the best game ever made. Also Doom
But we be talking games bud. The books are incredible though (I need to read them). But I feel MGS3 and 4 are my personal favorite games of all time and are masterpieces in their own way. PERSONALLY, I feel MGS3 is the greatest story in anything with 4 despite the retconning 4 does at times, something about it just makes me absolutely love it. It is a fantastic finale. Witcher 2 is a great game, but Witcher 3 is the masterpiece in the series. Although the first game is decent, it hasn't aged well at all, but in comparison MGS1 still plays great. Witcher 2 and definitely Witcher 3 are fantastic games with 3 setting a standard in it's genre, which by the way, is quite different from MGS. And I love Witcher 3 and 2. Played through 2 twice and 3 hundreds of hours.
I absolutely adore the morally gray world Metal Gear. It’s not afraid to show the harsh realities of war, but it never goes with the naive perception of “Why war happen? War bad.” Like, we’ll see a bleak depiction of the battlefield like this, but then like an hour later we’ll hear Snake and Ottacon talking about how war is hard-wired into mankind and how it’s ultimately unavoidable.
@@Just_normal_youtube_channel well the irony is that westerners keep believing that wars are part of human nature yet those who are rich are the ones who benefit from it we can understand all your western philosophy all well talking about how we humans are supposed to be killing machines yet in reality we are made to be killing machines by those powerful as most of humans wouldn't like to kill or even have any thoughts of it let alone kill their neighbours unless we are pushed to the brink with lack of resources or for survival which is something westerners don't like to mention in their games and tell us foreigners how less intellectual we are yet all we see is westerners talking about nonsensical rhetorics western rhetoric to claim humans are bad is just stupid tbh, it's just an excuse for people to just commit whatever atrocities they feel
"We are the most powerful military force in the history of man. Every fight is our fight, because what happens over here matters over there. We don't get to sit one out." Well, this is modern day USA in a nutshell, I think.
Twitter Version : War has changed. It's no longer about nations, ideologies, or ethnicity. It's an endless series of Ratio battles fought by Anime Avatars and Furry Avatars. War has changed. And he who controls the Ratio's, controls history. War has changed.
the speech Snake gives makes me think of our future, war fought on no moral grounds, just poxy conflicts design to do nothing but keep an world economically afloat.
I gotta say that if we (the world especially governments) learned from the multiple voices all over media speaking about the suffering of war and the needlessness of it. We wouldn't have situations like the one in light of recent historical invasions and escalations. This opening hits hard cus of it. And reminds me about the very real horrors of war and the intense destruction and suffering it brings to everyone involved in it. And in other words a thing we should try to avoid at all costs.
You realize that most aristocrats who occupy world governments, and the wealthy oligarchs who own said aristocrats, are psychopaths who view all other humans as nothing more than numbers on a spreadsheet, right? Don't listen to their honeyed words. They use those to control your behavioral responses. Instead, watch what they do.
Memes have changed. It's no longer about comedy, humor, or relatibility. It's an endless series of JPegs, created by people and machines. Memes--and it's consumption of attention span--has become a well-oiled machine. Memes have changed. ID-tagged users, leaving ID-tagged shitposts, in ID-tagged servers. Moderators inside the servers enhance and regulate their abilities. Funny words and JPegs are introduced, and die out less than 2 weeks later, due to moderation control. Mind control. information control. Emotion control. Attention span control. everything is monitored and kept under control. Memes…have changed. The age of freedom has become the age of control, all in the name of averting humor from people of legitimate comedic standards. And he who controls the internet, controls history. Memes…have changed. When the internet is under total control, memes with short life spans become routine.
I,m from Ukraine 🇺🇦 and war continue 10 month and when begins winter in our country every day turn off power electricity after air striking, and night's and evenings we spend with candles and wait when power electricity turn on, you never understand how awesome when electricity turn on, and every for Ukrainian war becomes routine 2:57 Yes Snake you are absolutely right ! Hideo Kojima absolutely correct show the war in MGS 4 ! But in our war stil one "mighty country" made this conflict because think that all her property, remember dude which read this comment doesn't matter have you liberals, LGBT, BLM stuff in your country like USA or England, remember that all absolutely crap with compare with war, war it's when young peoples goes in that hell callings war because one crazy guy which have rule and air rockets, wanted destroy all nation from the face of the earth ! Peace sky you in over head ! Україна обожнює Metal Gear Solid та ігри Хідео Коджіми і так Коджіма геній !
@@JackRiden2.0 thing is, both West and Russia wanted to use resources in Ukraine (Biden in Burisma and whole civil war is indicator), however it is not a problem of simply Ukraine, but for countries in the Middle East as well (US guarding oil fields for Syrian rebels as current example). Ukraine right now is the beginning of World War III, not because of Western countries support it, but because it is a threat for dollar based World Order. Current monetary system is built on the demand for dollars in order to purchase resources, which allows USA to inject infinite amount of dollars in the system and fund shaping of the world in the image which suits elites. This allowed USA to create "New brave world" order which relies on dopamine control of the society, while East due to the lack of infinite money supply has "1984" authoritarian order which relies on police control of the society. USA can't allow petrodollar decline to happen because it will ruin capability of USA for dopamine control. While East can't keep fighting against own population forever as USA can buy anyone in order to destroy threats to the world order.
Imagine westerners comparing a western propagandized fictional game to what happening in their own lives, it's mind boggling for us foreigners to believe that westerners are this gullible about the world irl and using ideologies as a way to believe anything they want
+BloodyRainbowCheese War does change and does not at the same time, in the end, a war is a sensless mean of destrucion that could be solved with simplistic ideaoligies
War is one of the basic foundations of human evolution. Hard times make strong men, strong men make good times, good times make weak men, weak men make hard times.
Dont care what anyone says about this game i have always loved this game. It is a perfect way to end a saga and how to leave a message like the rest of the series. This game will always stick with me and I WILL get that 100%. I dont think we'll ever get a remake or a similar game. I feel this game mainly the first 2 acts show just how had war is with men trying their hardest to fight back and yet die to mpre experienced troops. Just like in our real world, everything is getting worst all due to actions that occured in the past as those acts still ripples and affect us
A week ago I finished playing this game for the first time, two days ago a bunch of Hezbollah members got injured because their pagers were remotely detonated. Made me think of this exact cutscene. War’s becoming more and more about who controls the weapons.
The terrifying thing is, this isn't the first time. Go back and watch the end of MGS2 and realize how much of it came to pass in the years since that game came out.
The fpv drone attacks in ukraine are scary shit seeing it used against vehicles is one thing tanks and the like ....but fpv drones being used against soldiers in trenches or in the open it really brings life into perspective 😢
Man! I love voice actors. Playing mgs1, 2 and 3 back in the day, I thought 4 was going to be another fun adventure (I mean, I am aware of the seriousness of the franchise but lets be real mgs has wacky moments) but after listening to that first "war" by Mr. David Hayter, you knew you were in for a ride. (My inner voice sounds like Snake btw)
gaming has changed. It's no longer about players, unlocks, or enjoyment. It's an endless series of proxy battles fought by corporations and players. Gaming - and its false promise of finished games - has become a profit machine. Gaming has changed. DLC packs, Players buy un-finished games, use online transactions. energy drinks inside their bodies enhance and regulate their abilities. micro transactions control. useless DLC bundle control, player control. Gaming control. Everything is half assed and kept under control. Gaming has changed.
+Kaz Miller master miller, the fiddle joke is old and venom said i should tell you to stop it
Wait Venom talked
When the gaming industry is under complete control, cash-grab becomes routine...
you sure as hell predicted no man's sky
nonihedgehog83 PC gmers now beleive they are superior thanks to dawn fall of the console SOP........
MGS: Genetic control
MGS2: Information control
MGS3: Emotion control
MGS4: Battlefield control
MGSV : identity control
@@ATM_Elly more like psychologic control I think
MGR: Meme control
Death Stranding: Delivery control.
@@MoskHotel MGR: nanomachine control, son
This dude crawled through a microwave.
HAHAHAHAH
That part put my in my feels 😢 not to mention he got the shit beat out of him shortly after.I lost it when he put the gun in his mouth. I haven't been so attached to a fictional character (I was 10 when I started playing MGS) until Arthur Morgan showed up.
These games changed my life, not gonna lie. The games were always there for me.
Yeah, one that could have killed Grey Fox. And Snake somehow pushed through it.
And you, the player, kept his heart beating as he did it.
The jump from Metal Gear 3 to 4 was so overwhelming to me as a kid. It’s just amazing
MGS4 still looks amazing to this day and i believe it was around launch window or a launch title for the PS3. If not launch very early on.
@@thetrophygamer3606 The ps3 was released in 2006, Mgs4 in 2008. Still very early on the console's lifespan tho.
@@UPoohto ah cool. Wasn’t sure sense for as long as my family has had our ps3 MGS4 was always there.
Mgs 4 is a ps3 game only
@@Clone_Trooper-zh5cn ok and?
Fallout 4: War never changes.
MGS4: F#ck you, the war has changed
uh not just fallout 4
@@viviondioline You're right, it was in Fallout 3 too.
@@hydra7427 and more
@@viviondioline Nope, just Fallout 3 and 4.
@@hydra7427 and new vegas
When you get an F- on a test that's 40% of your grade.
Hey kids welcome to Sam O'Nella academy
F to repespect
X to respect, utube doesnt allow me to type that character..
School has changed.
It's no longer about learning, making friends, or even having fun. It's an endless cycle of grades gained from all nighters and black coffee.
@@Edgeworth992 School - and it’s consumption of free time - has become a well oiled machine. School has changed. Standardized students do standardized homework, study standardized tests.
It is so mindblowing when you see that the games story plays in 2014 and when you look at the World now, you can truly say war has changed..
Everything is indeed proxies, since the 1960s America was controlling Iran, Afghanistan, ect through proxy leaders... And now the world is fighting back with their own proxies.
This is 2008
@@user-pi1lb4tf2f The story of the game plays in 2014
Just watched an entire platoon get wiped out by drones, war has definitely changed.
@@bldontmatter5319stop comparing irl elements to a damn fictional story westerner, it's hypocrisy at best
The nanomachine subplot is one of the greatest, most well-built social criticisms ever. Since it's a system that's planted inside a soldier that regulates damn-near everything the man does, it kinda corelates back to the internet in general. The news we read are controlled. The comments we make are controlled. The videos we post are controlled.
*The age of trolling has become the age of control.*
Very alegorical
We all do a little trolling
every man should be free to troll how he sees fit
The only people unaffected are antivax Chad's, like akiba
@@Lesha126r The sacred and the propane
"The age of deterrence has become the age of war"
after having played through MGS3, Portable Ops, Peacewalker and Ground zeroes that line is more meaningful than before.
Even more so if you look at the modern day.
Also the stuff said in mgs2 about the digital society...
So meaningful that you couldn't even be bothered to remember it correctly
@@Sly_rim minor quote mistake moment
And then Phantom Pain brings the predecessor to nanomachines and the beginning of the proliferation of PMCs, starting in Central Africa...
This is me when nerf announced the new guns
This comment needs more likes 😂
i came to this to make a meme about the new nexus pro lol
You the real mvp
Gel blasters
ID tag soldiers carry ID tag weapons, use ID tag gear.
Memes have changed.
It's no longer about comedy, ideologies, or creativity. It's an endless series of proxy battles, fought by shitposters and corporations.
Memes -- and their conjurance of trends -- have become a well-oiled machine.
Memes... have changed.
hash-tagged users follow hash-tagged trends, use hash-tagged messages. Emojis within their text enhance and regulate their material.
Information control, emotion control, memetic control... everything is monitored and kept under control.
Memes have changed.
The age of self-broadcasting has become the age of control, all in the name of connecting everyone through social media, and he who controls the website, controls the people.
Memes... have changed.
When the internet is under total control, memes become routine.
Just beautiful
THE MEMES THE DNA OF THE SOUL
Your memes end here
comedy has changed.
it's not about being funny, or making someone smile,
its not even made for the fun of it.
it's an endless mountain of unfunny and unbased cringe,
made by karma whores and attention seekers.
comedy and its vast consumption of human creativity,
has become a well oiled machine, where there is only unbased and incel cringe.
comedy has changed.
neckbeards make memes on a server, with power tripping mods,
where they ban people for going against the echo chamber
based cringe in their veins enhance their ego,
and make them unfunny and cringe
femboy control... information control...
emotion control... subreddit control.
everything is monitored, and kept under control.
comedy has changed.
The age of mlg pro gmaer shrek and harambe and we are number one is now the age of unbased attention seekers,
averting the based from memes of originality.
and he who controls the subreddit, controls history.
comedy has changed.
when the subreddit is under full control by the mods.
comedy has become routine.
@@saecwave9855 is full of shit a meme?
Darkvorgan is now online.
That kinda annoyed me, oof
Lol 69 likes
V has come to
let the legend come back to life
Darkvorgan has come to.
It's still so jaw dropping when the camera just focuses on Snake and the HUD just fades in.
"Now you're in control"
(until you crawl under the truck, now it's another cutscene)
What if this game has so many cutscenes because it's Snake wrestling control from US? WHAT IF WE'RE BEING CONTROLLED BY THE PATRIOTS??
Everybody gangsta till Darkvorgan comes online
V has come to
Who is that are u talking about snake?
that was the last time he was seen
Love this game. An old soldier on a final mission whilst his worn out body slowly deteriorates after so many battles. Probably my favourite video game character with Nathan Drake a close 2nd.
Like the movie Logan
@@BEEEELEEEE theres plenty of similarities between logan and mgs4 isnt there
Not love this game
This game gets a lot of hate and I have no idea why, it’s in my top 5
@@chrisquiett1776it's really only because of the long cutscenes from what I understand, also the fact that the cutscenes possibly are longer then the game itself but I could be wrong
Well, this is relevant today.
True
@@jibur44 not really it’s still about nations
@@aspart2842 No it isn't, if it was it would be a regional war at this point, not a economic war waged by both sides. If nations still existed then the US wouldn't be as fucked as it is.
Yes yes yes
@@aspart2842 no is not
Today Prigozhin the leader of the Wagner PMC got allegedly killed. I immediately thought of this intro
23rd August 2023
It is very fascinating to see what Hideo Kojima correctly predicted about future warfare and what he got wrong, over fifteen years after MGS 4.
This is why MGS is my favourite saga. My favourite character is Big Boss, he's a broken man who was only taught to be a gun. His only goal in life was to fight. He was a terrorist and a villain but he fought for what he thought was correct. On the other hand is Solid Snake. He's also a broken man but whose goal in life was to stop wars. My ideology is nearer to Solid Snake.
"It's an endless series of proxy battles fought by mercenaries and machines"
*Bayraktar in Ukraine intensifies*
*flexible diplomacy*
More like - "Soldiers of Fortune"/Mercenaries (and EU and USA's PMC) and Russian PMC "Wagner's Group" intensifies.
And proxy war - mean a info-war with some degree of battles. Which means - Battle of "Fake News".
And yes, it exist - MGS 2 was mention in the end - how USA ("The Patriots") and other world - trying to cenzor information in internet, or control that by Fake News and "AI System" (Facebook and Twitter Factchecking Bot's system are - a example).
Funny how you people - didn't learn from that games, but trying to be clever and funny.
Hideo even said it himself that war has changed due to Ukraine
I remember fondly. It was August 31st, 2009. I was just about to turn 17. I just got home from Gamecrazy with my brand new Playstation 3 Slim, along with a copy of Grand Theft Auto 4 and Metal Gear Solid 4: Gunds of the Patriots. I hooked everything up to my small 19' MAGNAVOX 720P Television that had a small 2.1 Altec Lansing stereo system plugged into for better sound. I turned on my new playstation 3, wen't through the set-up screen and put my copy of Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots. I booted it up and I was immediately blown away by how amazingly good the graphics were during the install screen where Old Snake just stands there smoking a cigarette. Once the opening cutscene (Which is this) played out, I was immediately captivated. The Music that played and then hearing Old Snake speak for the first time! It definetely changed my life, if not just making a huge impact on me. I couldn't believe I had finally got myself a copy of this. Seriously one the best video games ever!
That's the kind of emotion that you never get to experience anymore nowadays. Very rarely I find games that give me such excitement and that i look forward to. They're all a cashgrab nowadays. Very sad, I remember going back home with a copy of MGS3, same feeling.
Sorry to make you feel old, but... i was born in 2009
Gamecrazy, a name I haven't heard in a long time. Good ol days at that store.
@@Wolf10media right rip hollywood video/gamecrazy
Read your bible. This game is more realistic than people realize.
Ron Perlman: War... War never chan...
Snake: WAR HAS CHANGED!
Is it that picture of Snake slapping the guy?
Philips CDI Mario: NO.
Probably the best monologue in a video game. This would be an incredible movie as it really hits close to home with what is happening in the world today in 2023.
A movie? I prefer a videogame, its better.
Bro mgs4 is a movir with some gameplay if youre bored of the 9 hours of snake
mgs4 is basically a movie
A TV show or even an anime would fit metal gear better than a movie IMO.
Wait until you see the sequel to 2023, the 2024
Whoda thought that one of the greatest video game intros ever would become an actual state of reality
Hideo Kojima is a time traveler
Didnt know we had nanomachines already
Or a war economy
Or an A.I that controls the flow of Information throughout the whole world
Imagine comparing irl to a damn fictional story
@@Layd36 You completely missed the point
@@p_filippouz nah we foreigners didn't, more like westerners are just that ignorant
When the rich kid enters the waterfight with a supersoaker.
Our world is very quickly approaching this, and some folks think Kojima was just smoking crack when he wrote up all these ideas.
I mean, we think they smoking crack thinking that this concept was not normal at all.
Kojima it's ahead from this era he is a genius
This still makes me cry. Kojima and his team are such auteurs.
@OMGitsAzrael You could look it up you know? It's French for "author".
I remember when that moment of seamless transition from cutscene to gameplay happened and I was like 🤯
Still hits the same after all this time
me loading up fortnite after not playing for 3 years
Bruh, I feel that 😂🤚
so true though
Nah image playing fortnite
The age of having fun in games has become the age of addiction and manipulation to buy more skins
Nah imagine having the reddit Mindset and hating online games for no reason
Love how Kojima was able to predict Syrian civil war with the syrian rebels as the armed group in the game and Wagner Group as the Pmc's
Honestly, I feel like the statement on how war has changed was remarkably on point.
I think that in an effort to make war more "humane" we've caused it to become horrific. War used to be about killing your enemies. Now, when we've forgotten that, we've caused the age of forever war. The age of deterrence was a greatly peaceful era in human history. And what is it now?
Hi, I just wanted to let you know that I read "the age of deterrence" in your comment just as Snake was saying it in the video. That's it, there's nothing clever that I have to say.
This has more meaning year after year.
Israel vs Hamas.... it's just like the beginning
The Taliban once again
@Sarina Freeman
Its right tho.
Guess which country that has the biggest MIC out of them all?
“The feeding ramp is polished to a mirror sheen. The slide’s been reinforced. And the interlock with the frame is tightened for added precision. The sight system is original, too. The thumb safety is extended to make it easier on the finger. A long-type trigger with non-slip grooves. A ring hammer… The base of the trigger guard’s been filed down for a higher grip. And not only that, nearly every part of this gun has been expertly crafted and customized
Hideo Kojima, a man who really understands what "The Times" mean. Understanding how each era changes, due to revolutionary inventions, or catastrophic wars. Sometimes these video games or movies or whatever entertainment you consume is actually where you learn life's most important lessons. Now think, these are also the things that are slowly changing as you know, "The Times" change....
All of the things he has mentioned were all in previous metal gears except for maybe nanomachines
I've always felt that above all else Hideo Kojima understands politics. Listen to the conversations that happen in the codecs in the context of what year they were made. He always has been drastically ahead of the curve.
I can now do this whole monologue in Old Snakes voice, I always do it in my car to work lol
Metal gear fans arguing with fallout fans if war has changed
And both of them agreed
In fact it just got worse and worse
New Vegas literally answered that with its “War never changes but the roads the men walk has”
Both are right
Fortnite has changed. It's no longer about being OG, bush strats, or sky bases. It's an endless series of build battles fought by sweats and pro players. Fortnite - and its consumption of life - has become a well-oiled machine. Fortnite has changed.
Honestly the best opening I have ever seen in a video game
Kojima san tells the reality in the world. War becomes routine
As a Marine who was stationed in Japan, and visited Hiroshima and Nagasaki, this is the best I got:
"I hate war as only a soldier who has lived it can, only as one who has seen its brutality, its futility, its stupidity".
- Dwight D. Eisenhower
Imagine comparing irl to a damn fictional story
@@TheWorldsOkayestUSMarine it is understandable talking about what happened irl but please don't compare fictional story to what happened with real life as irl is very different from what's portrayed in media
@Layde360 Did you not read my comment? I served 8 years in the Marine Corps, been to 15+ different countries across 3 continents. I'll compare whatever I want. Get out of your Mommy's basement.
BTW, Bungou Stray Dogs is boring and unoriginal.
@@TheWorldsOkayestUSMarine yet in all that comparison westerners fail to understand why wars are fought in the first place i.e to preserve ones Empire, westerners have a naive understanding of saying war is bad yet they do actions which initiate war in the first place by discrimination, corruption and pushing ideological rhetorics as to use people against each other to gain power, westerners are provided this ideal way of thinking as good and bad and then they also use grey elements and claim others as lesser evil yet for us foreigners it's all the same
instead of quoting colonial Presidents who will talk all philosophy but do the opposite of what they preach maybe westerners should stop worshiping their leaders or philosophers who just talk nonsense rhetorics as to take them away from the fact that all their philosophy is only quoted to make money for them
As a kid, for the first time, I really felt like I was a part of the battle. From the beginning to the end, hearing the recorded screams and shots, and even explosions. It all felt like friends, really. Getting immersed in that was great for the game experience, and putting myself in the shoes of the rebels.
MGS4, for all its ups and downs, is still a pretty good game. It’s not the best metal gear game, and I wouldn’t say it has the best story out of the metal gear games, but there’s really not many other games like it today.
It still has a sad as hell ending though.
This is what happens when you let the AI determine your tactical actions...just run straight into the line of fire regardless of the casualties...
I mean, an AI is constructed by rules provided by the programmer. If your AI is telling you to run into the line of fire regardless of casualties, you have failed at designing and building a helpful AI.
That's very primal emotion based thinking james
Interestingly, most AI chess/Go programs are very materialistic, meaning that they’re moreso interested in racking up the enemy’s casualties than their own. The problem is positioning, whereby AIs tend to be put into poor positions that permit the opponent to gain the upper hand.
@@writershard5065
Nice trump pic
This is the emotion that MGSV completely missed.
as someone who has played MGSV, I'm guessing this means there's way more emotion in MGS4? which is alright, since this is meant to be the finale of the series (Revengence is at the end of the timeline and is canon) and I'm playing the games in chronological order. so this'll be fun to get to once i'm done with MGSV, and Metal Gear 1, Metal Gear 2 as well as Metal Gear Solid and Metal Gear Solid 2.
@@WednesdayMan if you've never played Metal gear. I honestly highly recommend playing them in release order. It makes much more sense in my opinion.
@@WednesdayMan Revengance is canon? I thought it wasn't?
@@Jack-cf7wm Eh you're free to interpret as you want, it ties into a plot point that wasn't explored in MGS4, which was the effect of the war economy going away and what PMCs may try to do to bring it back.
Mgs4 90 percent cutscenes 10 percent gameplay
Mgsv 90 percent gameplay 10 percent cutscenes
Perfectly balanced
War has changed so drastically over the years, and yet, it's stayed exactly the same. We may have moved from sticks and stones, but the will to conquer and sieze more than what we're allotted will stay in our nature for eternity.
Playing Phantom Pain makes this even darker. Parasites became nanomachines, manipulating everyone, and the PFs of the 70s and 80s expanded to 2014's PMCs.
It's even more relevant in today's geopolitical situations.
Also imagine if the NPCs spoke Arabic or other Middle Eastern languages...like how MGSV brings mother tongues in-game
This is my first time playing this and the amount of detail within and outside the game is unreal.
MGS4 is a loveletter to the fans.
nigga, that shit has truly hugged my soul. what a piece of art the MGS franchise is, damn!
And its still only on PS3 :(
Goddammit darkvorgan
what is it
For both better or worse, I classify MGS4 as an experience rather than a game.
It's an even better scene with the context of past metal gear games since it shows the absolute low point in the timeline that the series built up to since metal gear 2: solid snake
I know people are supposed to agree with fallout that "war never changes" but honestly as life progresses further solid Snake's dialogue about how "War has changed" is more relevant especially how everything is now monitored and kept under control... Even in the real world we are becoming the age of tyrannical monitoring and control
War never changes in the idea that war will never end as long as humans are around, but the way wars are fought has changed and will continue to change.
@@woresor So basically fallouts message of "war never changes" simply because humanity exists.... Very simplistic and to the point.
While on the flip side Metal gear solids message on "War has changed" delves into how war is being fought and how it evolves. *However* there's an argument to be met that if War becomes routine. Has the original motives of War changed? Because then it's no longer "War" anymore, and once it's become eroded and become "routine" it's become something else.
@@xamhehehe7888 actually i think that what fallout 4 is trying to say is that war always ended up with people getting killed and never changed
Fallout's statement is about on " why" we go to war, which ultimately never changed, it's part of human nature.
MGS's statement is about how wars are fought, which changes with each technological milestone we reach.
@@xamhehehe7888You are getting the entirely wrong message from fallout. The first fallout even directly states that as long as finite resources are around, humanity will fight to get them to stay alive.
I miss the days when gaming's favorite color was dust bowl brown.
Sepa hallway simulator is my favorite theme the 2009 color scheme
I hear a character say "keep up the pace" at that pace they will all die in minutes.
Best game of all times.
Period.
Solid Snake = the Final Hero
Nah. Second greatest game of all time, only behind MGS3.
t h e
w i t c h e r
Third greatest game.
Fair statement. Witcher franchise has masterpiece story. MGS has better
BUT
If we count The WItcher books, then it is the best game ever made.
Also Doom
But we be talking games bud. The books are incredible though (I need to read them). But I feel MGS3 and 4 are my personal favorite games of all time and are masterpieces in their own way. PERSONALLY, I feel MGS3 is the greatest story in anything with 4 despite the retconning 4 does at times, something about it just makes me absolutely love it. It is a fantastic finale. Witcher 2 is a great game, but Witcher 3 is the masterpiece in the series. Although the first game is decent, it hasn't aged well at all, but in comparison MGS1 still plays great. Witcher 2 and definitely Witcher 3 are fantastic games with 3 setting a standard in it's genre, which by the way, is quite different from MGS. And I love Witcher 3 and 2. Played through 2 twice and 3 hundreds of hours.
Easily one of the best intros for a game in decades
Me getting deployed to fight in Iran to protect the interests of a certain tiny country in the Middle East
When students start to take pictures of powerpoint slides instead of writing down notes
I absolutely adore the morally gray world Metal Gear.
It’s not afraid to show the harsh realities of war, but it never goes with the naive perception of “Why war happen? War bad.”
Like, we’ll see a bleak depiction of the battlefield like this, but then like an hour later we’ll hear Snake and Ottacon talking about how war is hard-wired into mankind and how it’s ultimately unavoidable.
if you don't think mgs is anti-war i don't know what to tell you
@@DudeWithTheNose I never said it wasn’t.
I was just appreciating the nuance.
Imagine comparing irl to a fictional story
@@Layd36 I see no point in trying to argue with you, as it appears you lack basic reading comprehension.
@@Just_normal_youtube_channel well the irony is that westerners keep believing that wars are part of human nature yet those who are rich are the ones who benefit from it
we can understand all your western philosophy all well talking about how we humans are supposed to be killing machines yet in reality we are made to be killing machines by those powerful as most of humans wouldn't like to kill or even have any thoughts of it let alone kill their neighbours unless we are pushed to the brink with lack of resources or for survival which is something westerners don't like to mention in their games and tell us foreigners how less intellectual we are yet all we see is westerners talking about nonsensical rhetorics
western rhetoric to claim humans are bad is just stupid tbh, it's just an excuse for people to just commit whatever atrocities they feel
Fallout 4: war never changes
Mgs 4: war has changed
Me: *confused screaming*
Both? Both. Both is right.
I was looking for this comment
Fallout 4 "War never changes." Is about the reasons why war is waged.
MGS4 "War has changed." Is how war is waged.
@@solidsnake8330 Promote this man!!!
Cannon Fodder: War! Never been so much fun!
Both this and MW2 had some real banger monologues general shepherd had some awesome quotes, same with snake
"We are the most powerful military force in the history of man. Every fight is our fight, because what happens over here matters over there. We don't get to sit one out."
Well, this is modern day USA in a nutshell, I think.
This aged well...
Watching this now is like watching an episode of black mirror
Who needs Call of Duty when you have this awesome incredible game
Metal Gear: War has Changed.
Fallout: War never Changes.
Khorne: WAR is WAR!
Orkz: WAAAAAAAAAAAGHHH!!!!!!!
War! Huh! Yeah! What is it good for? Absolutely nothing!
War has changed.
War...war has changed
War....war never changes
@@doppelvonkaiser9835 no.
@@JuriSins Y e s
Ya we got stands now what do you have old man nano machine LMFAOOOOO
More important than ever....
Twitter Version :
War has changed.
It's no longer about nations, ideologies, or ethnicity.
It's an endless series of Ratio battles fought by Anime Avatars and Furry Avatars.
War has changed.
And he who controls the Ratio's, controls history.
War has changed.
I know why you are here
And now i shall wait for the robots with the artificial intelligence of a cow
Because I like MGS4?
"War has changed."
First thing I thought of with Russia, Ukraine, Nato going on.
the speech Snake gives makes me think of our future, war fought on no moral grounds, just poxy conflicts design to do nothing but keep an world economically afloat.
@@mandolfc9549 One shutters to imagine a world were wars are fought over nothing but money
Hey wait a minute
@@Frille512 lol
legend says that Darkvorgan is still waiting online
fucking depressing how much this got right
Not depressing, you need just to know how to play the game with the war changed .
Mostly frightening, cuz MGS2 got it right 20 years in the future, I wonder what comes next.
I gotta say that if we (the world especially governments) learned from the multiple voices all over media speaking about the suffering of war and the needlessness of it. We wouldn't have situations like the one in light of recent historical invasions and escalations. This opening hits hard cus of it. And reminds me about the very real horrors of war and the intense destruction and suffering it brings to everyone involved in it. And in other words a thing we should try to avoid at all costs.
You realize that most aristocrats who occupy world governments, and the wealthy oligarchs who own said aristocrats, are psychopaths who view all other humans as nothing more than numbers on a spreadsheet, right?
Don't listen to their honeyed words. They use those to control your behavioral responses. Instead, watch what they do.
This is what pissed Steven Armstrong off to the point where he started harvesting kid-brains to make the mother of all omelettes.
Years later an it’s still epic…
Memes have changed.
It's no longer about comedy, humor, or relatibility. It's an endless series of JPegs, created by people and machines.
Memes--and it's consumption of attention span--has become a well-oiled machine.
Memes have changed.
ID-tagged users, leaving ID-tagged shitposts, in ID-tagged servers. Moderators inside the servers enhance and regulate their abilities.
Funny words and JPegs are introduced, and die out less than 2 weeks later, due to moderation control.
Mind control.
information control.
Emotion control.
Attention span control.
everything is monitored and kept under control.
Memes…have changed.
The age of freedom has become the age of control, all in the name of averting humor from people of legitimate comedic standards. And he who controls the internet, controls history.
Memes…have changed.
When the internet is under total control, memes with short life spans become routine.
You should replay MGS2.
@@stateofopportunity1286 I've never even played a metal gear game lmao
@@Viper-uk6qv You're missing out
I,m from Ukraine 🇺🇦 and war continue 10 month and when begins winter in our country every day turn off power electricity after air striking, and night's and evenings we spend with candles and wait when power electricity turn on, you never understand how awesome when electricity turn on, and every for Ukrainian war becomes routine 2:57
Yes Snake you are absolutely right !
Hideo Kojima absolutely correct show the war in MGS 4 !
But in our war stil one "mighty country" made this conflict because think that all her property, remember dude which read this comment doesn't matter have you liberals, LGBT, BLM stuff in your country like USA or England, remember that all absolutely crap with compare with war, war it's when young peoples goes in that hell callings war because one crazy guy which have rule and air rockets, wanted destroy all nation from the face of the earth !
Peace sky you in over head !
Україна обожнює Metal Gear Solid та ігри Хідео Коджіми і так Коджіма геній !
He means that war is now fueled by money and greed and has changed endless proxies war just like ukraine.
@@AverageUsernames Yeah, you right, oil and gas stuff, this do russians they wanted have influence energy monopoly in Europe
@@JackRiden2.0 thing is, both West and Russia wanted to use resources in Ukraine (Biden in Burisma and whole civil war is indicator), however it is not a problem of simply Ukraine, but for countries in the Middle East as well (US guarding oil fields for Syrian rebels as current example). Ukraine right now is the beginning of World War III, not because of Western countries support it, but because it is a threat for dollar based World Order. Current monetary system is built on the demand for dollars in order to purchase resources, which allows USA to inject infinite amount of dollars in the system and fund shaping of the world in the image which suits elites. This allowed USA to create "New brave world" order which relies on dopamine control of the society, while East due to the lack of infinite money supply has "1984" authoritarian order which relies on police control of the society. USA can't allow petrodollar decline to happen because it will ruin capability of USA for dopamine control. While East can't keep fighting against own population forever as USA can buy anyone in order to destroy threats to the world order.
Imagine westerners comparing a western propagandized fictional game to what happening in their own lives, it's mind boggling for us foreigners to believe that westerners are this gullible about the world irl and using ideologies as a way to believe anything they want
War, has changed...
War, war never changes...
+BloodyRainbowCheese War does change and does not at the same time, in the end, a war is a sensless mean of destrucion that could be solved with simplistic ideaoligies
War is one of the basic foundations of human evolution. Hard times make strong men, strong men make good times, good times make weak men, weak men make hard times.
Naked Patriot he was making a refrence to the fallout games where they have that speach
War is a way for nature to stop rapidly growing populations
The death and destruction of war never changes. But the technology used does change. That’s what snake was talking about. Dumbass.
Dont care what anyone says about this game i have always loved this game. It is a perfect way to end a saga and how to leave a message like the rest of the series. This game will always stick with me and I WILL get that 100%. I dont think we'll ever get a remake or a similar game. I feel this game mainly the first 2 acts show just how had war is with men trying their hardest to fight back and yet die to mpre experienced troops. Just like in our real world, everything is getting worst all due to actions that occured in the past as those acts still ripples and affect us
Love that what you said ❤😢
Its all true.
there are only two types of guy: war has changed(metal gear) and war never changes(fallout)
A week ago I finished playing this game for the first time, two days ago a bunch of Hezbollah members got injured because their pagers were remotely detonated. Made me think of this exact cutscene. War’s becoming more and more about who controls the weapons.
What makes this scene ironic, is that Snake was right.
Big boss dream has come true. A world of war and information control. Mercenaries and Soldiers.
The terrifying thing is, this isn't the first time. Go back and watch the end of MGS2 and realize how much of it came to pass in the years since that game came out.
@@VegetaLF7 We are living in the age of GW.
@@VegetaLF7 i just played it a few weeks ago man was he so spot on
War always changes. But in the way its waged. But war... Fundementally stays the same. Killing because of resources, nations, ideology, religion etc
You cannot deny that in his prime, Kojima made the most cinematic, emotionally driving games of his time
Watching this in 2024 right before WW3 is crazy
Tf are you talking about 😂
@ some one doesn’t know a joke when they see one 😂
Ain’t no joke bruh u just dumb af😂
David Hayter, man. THE voice
this intro hits hard when ur a gamer, but it hits harder when you see this intro a week before ur sent back to the war irl...
thanks to whoever uploaded this 11 years ago
darkvorgan is now online
what is this even mean
How accurate is this now with modern drone warfare. Scary stuff
The fpv drone attacks in ukraine are scary shit seeing it used against vehicles is one thing tanks and the like ....but fpv drones being used against soldiers in trenches or in the open it really brings life into perspective 😢
The monologue to end all monologue
Monologues have changed.
Always wanted to play this game as a kid but the ps3 was sooo expensive back then finally playing it now this scene hits different when you're older
Kojima predicted the future. This is happening right now, mass control... It's just the beginning though
This wasn't his first
FallOut4: War... War never changes
Snake: War has changed
Wont ever forget sitting down with my brother 10 years ago and watching this intro
Team Fortress 2 now:
The Age Of Deterrence, Has Given Way To The Age Of Control.
Man! I love voice actors.
Playing mgs1, 2 and 3 back in the day, I thought 4 was going to be another fun adventure (I mean, I am aware of the seriousness of the franchise but lets be real mgs has wacky moments) but after listening to that first "war" by Mr. David Hayter, you knew you were in for a ride.
(My inner voice sounds like Snake btw)
TWO MINUTES BEFORE KOJIMA BRINGS UP THE FUCKING NANOMACHINES
"When you have nothing left to live for; what would you die for?"