Best Part in Metal Gear Solid Series -- Snake about Big Boss -- Torture Room Dialogs
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- Snake : ....... Naomi, please talk to me. Say something to take my mind
off the pain.
Naomi : What can I say?
Snake : Anything.
Naomi : I...I'm not a very good talker.
Snake : Please... tell me about yourself.
Naomi : Myself? That's a tough one...
Snake : Any family?
Naomi : That's not a very happy topic for me.
Snake : I don't have any family. No wait, there was a man who said he was
my father...
Naomi : Where is he?
Snake : Dead. By my own hand.
Campbell : Big Boss.
Naomi : What!? Big Boss!? I had no idea.
Campbell : There was no way you could. It happened in Zanzibar 6 years ago.
Only Snake and I know the real truth of what happened there.
Naomi : So, is it true? Was Big Boss really your father?
Snake : That's what he said. That's all I know.
Naomi : And you were able to kill him, knowing that?
Snake : Yup.
Naomi : How?
Snake : He wanted it. Besides, some people just need killing...
Naomi : That's patricide.
Snake : Yup. That's the trauma that Mantis was talking about. The one
we share in common.
Metal Gear Solid is a game that is fresh and new the older you get. As a kid, you're drawn in by the walking robot and action and cool character you play. As an adult, you're drawn to the political struggle and depth of the characters and the lore surrounding Metal Gear. What a stellar game and series.
+Common Sense not just a piece.... It's a milestone.
And for me, it proves that video games are an art that can deliver much more plot than
- any film (because it lasts longer)
- or a book (in a written story, you can't see the memes or any body language)
@@Leon_der_Luftige The m e m e s .
Absolutely. It was my favorite game growing up.👍
Well said.
Oh, what depth? It's caricature.
Naomi: "That's not a happy topic for me..."
Snake: "Yeah, well, I killed my father."
+IcedEarth426 thats one way to one up somone
+IcedEarth426 But now we know it wasnt the real big boss he killed but his phantom :)
DuskCalibur but he kind of killed them both, up until Big Boss's body was recovered by the Patriots i beleive he was dead until they revived him and put him into a NanoMachine induced coma
+DuskCalibur or maybe you could have used a spoiler alert for people who haven't played the game yet you idiot !
Chris Tsirigotis Dont read the comments and go fuck yourself :)
Hayter was ridiculously good in MGS1
David did good for somebody with a cold! Yes, he had a cold during the recording sessions for Metal Gear Solid.
It's his maiden flight into video game history
Jackson the cold made it better. It make his voice rougher naturally so it didnt sound like he was putting it on
@GloriousTapeworm Same here, I'm curious. I haven't heard about that either.
Probably the most legit fictional video game nigga of all time. Incredible story through and through.
God... this game was so far ahead of its time.
iBluairJgR it was. I really feel I can relate now due to our times
It still is to some extent
still is
still in a dream
snake eater
This game is VERY relevant theme wise its frightening but i commend Kojima as a writer. :)
WAY ahead.
When Snake asks. "So what about my fate? You know my DNA Sequence don't you?" Naomi; " . . . ." She knew he was going to die of rapid aging in that moment and didn't tell him..... Fuck..
+Tychus besides she had put FOXDIE virus in Snake's organism
+Tychus How do you tell someone that though? "You're a clone and your DNA was altered to cause you to age rapidly"
Evnyofdeath she didn't want to tell him
+Tychus fck her becuz of her solid snake die quicker . I'm glad she paid for wat she did in the end
jonh 886 She did NOT make Snake die faster. She is not the cause of his rapid aging, and the mutated foxdie didn't kill him so she had no hand in his death.
Snake still calling Campbell a friend after everything that happened... that's a deep friendship right there.
Matty Paul Its easy to forget what a sin is in the middle of a battlefield.
Matty Paul Snake: Yup.
Coronel: Did you saved Meryl?
Snake: Yup.
Otacon: Could you please stop saying "yup"
Snake: Yup.
Matty Paul why what happened? if it involves spoilers dont tell me lol, im currently on a mission to play all metal gear solid games to prepare for phantom pain so i know the lore, and im currently halfway through mgs 3 snake eater just beaten the fury :P
ShinDharta big boss Yup.
MrAmmo30 Well i was mostly referring to the events of MGS1. Just this scene alone where Colonel had to keep secrets from Snake and pretty much blackmail him to do this mission on Shadow Moses in the first place. Obviously, Snake hates that, but still considers Campbell a friend from their history.
"So, patriotism is your excuse for circumventing the constitution?"Jesus Christ, that line got _a lot_ more relevant three years later.
+realitywarper93 ...... 9/11
He mean the MGS2 and La li lu le lo
It has been relevant everytime there has been war, which is everytime in history.(after the constitution)
Yup
Trump says hi.
"Yup" - Solid Snake
Yup
yup
yup
Yup
+Der dasMann
Uyp (sorry for my bad English)
"Publicly, the President has been very vocal in his opposition to eugenics experiments."
Privately... well, he IS a eugenics experiment.
This comment rules. ;)
Lmfao
Ah shiiiiiit
Who we talking? Solidus?
@@GenocidalSquid Yes
David Hayter's voice was great here in MGS1. Natural sounding voice, not overdoing the rasp by the end of each word, man, this truly was Solid Snake.
+micoromico Well, he was portraying Old Snake in MGS4, so I can understand the rasp thing.
The thing is, by MGS2 he was already overdoing the voice. Don't get me wrong, I still like his portrayal of the character, just that sometimes it gets too comical in a way. Kinda like what happened to Al Pacino's voice by the time he did Scent of a Woman in 92, with all that yelling, but that's what happens when you get older, your voice changes if you force it too much.
Not to mention the fact that he smokes like a chimney.
It wasn't so bad in MGS2, but by Snake Eater...yeah.
For what it's worth, I think it was fine in MGS4 and Peace Walker. In the latter case, a lot of people feel like it doesn't make sense for Big Boss to sound like Old Snake when he was still relatively young, but I don't know. I felt like it suited the character at that point in his life.
If David ever takes the role back, though, I'd want him to return to this kind of portrayal./
Agreed. Imo MGS1 had best voice acting.
Liquid: Daddy issues
Solid: Soldier with no questions asked
Solidus: true patriot, despite his methods
Medic Boss: Paying his medical school debts by collecting GMPs
Big Boss: chilling with a cigar and laughing at his sons fighting
Here's the entire history of each snake lol
Actually for big boss it would be keeping his burned body alive while his kids fight each other
+el chag the cigar burnt him eventually while taking tequila shots outta some sexy chick in Costa Rica with a lit cigar in his mouth lol
+Fahad S.S, Medic Boss is called Venom Snake
+Firemarioflower A: his methods might be repulsive to others yet, he has a point. The means justifies the end. B: he DID NOT kill innocent people, Jack's parents were an accident and he didn't want to nuke Manhattan just have the nuke explode in the atmosphere to develop electronic pulse that takes down WallSt the Patriot's main finance machine.
C: Solidus will was achieved in MGS4 despite Solid not believing in it. People were eventually free from the system and if it wasn't for Ocelot's betrayal to Solidus, he would've achieved it during MGS2 but hey, then you wouldn't get a sequel. Finally, screw Raiden and his lame ass role in the entire series. Solidus died for civil rights, liberties, opportunities! Now that's why he is a true Patriot to me.
Fahad S.S He still was in command of Dead Cell, who slaughtered the public (mainly Vamp, but also Fortune and Bomberman)
because they didnt believe them.
Solidus still tried to kill Jack, who's a hero. And he's an enemy of Solid Snake too.
Ocelot didnt betray anyone since it was orchestrated from the start.
It's not Raidens fault. He's had a terrible youth, go easy on him.
Sure, he was a Patriot, who fought the patriots. How does that make sense?
He CLAIMED to fight for that, not really did it otherwise they hadnt built a stupid oil rig and convert it into a sort of platform, plus several Metal Gears in order to destroy the world.
Do you really think he only created those Rays to fight Raiden and Snake? NO!
One of the hostages was killed after Raiden and Snake took care of the C4, and Solidus was still in control at that moment.
Besides, he instigated Shadow Moses.
I like how MGS1 is THIS serious
Funny how snake response to his fathers dead is just Yup lol
That's not because he's joking or trying to be funny or anything. People do this all the time when they're talking about something that weights heavily on them.
Str8Murder
You prefer a overly serious game with characters that have little to no personality, aka metal gear solid V?
Philippe l yup
The silly jokes in MGS1 are incredibly necessary though.
Despite the amazing writing MGS1 still holds up to, the one liners and setpieces break it up in a very refreshing way, because unfortunately, like in MGS4 and MGS5, if you have almost a solid 3 hours of serious writing it gets grinding and annoying, so having some humor break it up is a good way to keep your audience engaged.
''We we fighting barehanded in a minefield'
Only Solid Snake good say that line so straight and casual'
+Randomtask68 Naomi: A minefield?
Snake: Well actually it was more of a room with mines planted near the walls but minefield sounds cooler.
+Eric Rhodes and the best part? fox could walk on them with no consequence!
Randomtask68 He was always so cool and precise...
In the same vein, it's pretty impressive that Campbell just assumes that Snake will be able to break out of the cell, even though he's been tortured and unarmed...
and only you could fuck up that comment so badly
The music in this game is just outstanding!
Brother!
When I was 12, I was given a psx... first games were FFVII and MGS, now music is very important to me in games, with those as my first game-XP... MGS is a timeless masterpiece, its music ear-caressing...
+La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo Who are the patriots?
+FoxTheLegend big boss, zero, paramedic, EVA can't remember the other founders
Joe Pears it wasn't a question but a quote, his nick name is La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo aka the patriots
Oh, fuck, I never realized it, but when Snake says "Frank Jaeger" at 6:21, you can see Naomi's expression break for a split-second. Fucking genius tell right there.
Damn that's a good catch!
I swear the dialogue is so much more natural in this one!
+ToadProductionINC Better translation and localization. Too bad Jeremy Blaustein who translated MGS1 got the boot and Kojima demanded more literal translations for western audiences hence why the dialogue in the others is sometimes awkward and stilted.
Scott Perry Ah, that's really interesting. Shame Kojima didn't have an editor around then.
Matthew Williams Don't get me started on how bad MGS5's plot is. Frankly, I think he deserved the boot from Konami given that he had 5 years, a team of 200 employees and a huge budget and the game is still incomplete.
Scott Perry I've been thinking this actually. Most people have been very black and white about Konami vs Hideo, when five years and an insane budget has actually resulted in a game pretty muddled in a lot of places. Kojima's made far better trailers than a real story all the while making ridiculous claims about what his game. He basically cut the whole game into his trailers :(
Matthew Williams Keep in mind, MGS5 had a whole chapter cut from the final release. Skullfaces death in Kojima's words was actually early in the game and then I assume the rest would've been about Venom's fall from grace.
Kojimadrones never cease to amaze me with how much mental hoops they create to justify hack writing and bad direction, especially for MGS5.
The way the scenes were directed might be subjective but knowing some fans actually think the writing and dialogue is anywhere half-decent is straight up delusional. It's frankly embarrassing when some people hold MGS as the bastion of storytelling. It's sad to say but MGR:R has a more satisfying story then MGS5 complete with a Metal Gear fight followed by a one-on-one fight, a series staple that MGS5 completely forgot about.
"We were just soldiers on opposite sides, it's no reason to end a friendship." Solid Snake
"
People all over the world could learn so much from him
Just guys being guys. Even in war.
War is just lad bantz.
I think thats how he rationalized it. Grey Fox did some horrible things in zanzibar and snake seemed to despise him for it.
Similar thing happened in Arknights, Patriot and Hellagur still remained in friendly terms and having the time to talk even when they're on opposite sides.
"We were fighting bare handed in a minefield." Enough said.
markosgraveyard Thus reasoning for Grey Fox's body exploding in MG2 is found....
Badasses
Iirc it happens in the first Metal Gear game. Maybe the second, I guess. I never played it
I read your comment at the same time he said it lol
that alone makes me wish they made a 3D version of those first two games. i would play the shit out of them
British Naomi = Best Naomi
To bad she only appeared in this version, and all her future appearances followed her Twin Snakes version with the American Accent.
Arthus850 It's almost like Kojima, in an effort to continually improve the series, keeps making it slightly worse in those ways.. Mei Ling's accent removed as well, David Hayter removed.. etc
Deathbrewer To be fair, Big Boss in MGS 4 sounded nothing like David Hayter, so I can get passed him having a different voice. In fact, I think I prefer it, since when he was voiced by David Hayter, all I saw was Solid Snake in a different setting, but when he was voiced by Keifer Sutherland, I saw a different character all together, which Big Boss is supposed to be. Plus, Accent or not, Mei Ling is still adorable.
Arthus850 Only problem I have with it is Hayter being Naked Snake/Big Boss in MGS3 and Peacewalker already. I don't see what Old Snake in MGS4 has to do with anything except Hayter destroying his voice, as he put it, trying to make Solid Snake sound as old and pained as possible lol. But I get what you're saying, I don't really have a problem with Keifer voicing Big Boss now that he's really changing into the damaged, cynical and conflicted character who ends up a villian. Japan still has the same voice actor they've always had though, like if Hayter had stayed on for English regions. Just saying.
Deathbrewer I'm not talking about Old Snake. I'm talking about Big Boss's appearance in MGS4 where he was voiced by Richard Doyle. Sorry for the spoiler if you haven't played MGS4, or at the very least, reached that part yet.
Nearly 20 years later and this is still the benchmark for video game voice acting.
tbh... I'd say the Legacy of Kain games have always beaten it slightly.
spot on man
Nah man, House of the Dead 2 was the best.
@@CDbiggen lmao nah, Sonic Adventure takes the cake
@@CDbiggen Friends of the AMS... Behold! Your new emperor!
"Some people just need killing"
Hits so much harder when you realize how much damage Big Boss did, he nearly started WW3 TWICE and completely annihilated The Boss's legacy.
zero had its part in that too
You completely missunderstood big boss and you were fooled by the Patriots just like Solid Snake.
Big Boss was fighting Zero/The Patriots who want to rule over the World. He isnt a maniac who kills innocent people for fun.
People are always saying Big Boss is evil and its just not right.
He is a flawed Hero.
Zero and Big Boss both walked the path lined with good intentions straight to hell.
They both had their own interpretations of The Boss' will, but in the end both of their visions became so twisted that they nearly tore the world apart.
If you haven't realized after all this time she was set up to become the enemy and start that war basically if I'm thinking of the right one and he was supposed to kill her because she was a scapegoat and he had to do that on behalf of her and the government, so it wasn't really his fault
I actually unironically like Snake's "yup"s, his delivery throughout the whole scene felt like it was even more painful to talk about killing Big Boss, when Naomi questions him about it using very blunt and direct phrasing, it sounds like he could barely muster up the strength to get out even a simple "yup" in response. So much emotion is being conveyed with just a single word.
Said it better than I ever could. 20+ years later, and the MGS1 voice acting is still unsurpassed.
The impression I get is Snake didn't have very deep feelings about killing Big Boss or anyone for that matter >.<
Through action he is a hero, but like he says, he's just a trained killer doing his job.
@@RockinRowdyRoberto I agree with you. Snake being so emotional he could only let out a “yup” makes no sense at all
@@RockinRowdyRoberto Well, he said he is traumatized and that's why he has been living alone in Alaska for a While.
@@NostalJuegos You know I always felt that Snake "killing' His Father/Template Big Boss is the real reason why Solid Snake didn't have "anymore tears left to shed"
i will take this over bullshit cassette tapes any day
fuck you then don't play Kojima's games you fuck
+Mr. Popo troll but peace walker had tapes so did gz, nobody complained
+TheRabbitFear and yet peacewalker still had a great amount of cutscenes that moved the stories plot and codec calls at the end of missions pretty much every mission instead of kaz just giving orders with no response....
Everyone complained about the paz and Chico cassette tapes in ground zeroesground zeroes would of been a complete game if they made those tapes into cutscenes. amd added them to the beginning of the mission from showing amanda tell snake that Chico is not with her to kaz giving snake the debriefing..
People complained about the codec in MGS2 yet want it back in MGSV after saying nothing about the tapes in GZ and PW, it's just a pathetic circlejerk from an original idiot/troll
+Mr. Popo LOL
5:16 "He wanted it." That line ties too well into the "Truth" ending of The Phantom Pain.
Fultoning sheep to wanting to die...
Tomo Key Cookie Learning you’re just a puppet for your Dickhead former boss, just so he can go fuck around with other people. I’d probably want to die too.
Venom didn't despise Big Boss. Quite the opposite actually, he gave his life just so that Big Boss could continue his work.
After all, Big Boss made him a legend even if for just a brief period
@@stefanosiclari yup, venom did like the title of big boss ;)
Later on, he became a "demon" and made outer heaven in south africa
@@pugslythewise7625 I don't remember venom hating big boss or anything, if he jumped in front of him to save him from an explosion I don't think what they did to him would bother him that much, he was devoted
we MUST see that scene in current graphics...Solid x Big Boss...please, let there be a Metal gear 1 and 2 remake!
+Leandro Nardi all I want from Konami is this. Not any MGS 6 7 or whatever, not Rising 2, not a fucking reboot. ALL I WANT IS MG1,2 ON FOX ENGINE DAMNIT! It can be GZ size or even smaller IT DOESN'T MATTER. JUST GIVE IT TO ME!
+Георгий Баландин hell yeah
A remake of those games should have been what happened after MGS3. We didn't need more games spelling out to use how Big Boss became evil, and we didn't need MGS4, needlessly explaining and contradicting previous events.
+gilgamesh310 We didn't need MGS4? Are you insane? You would prefer the cluster fuck that was MGS2 as the chronological ending? MGS4 gave perfect closure to this whole story and was essential in clearing things up.
Brahmas168 MGS4 overexplained fucking everything, and canonised stuff that never needed canonisation. The ending to MGS2 is supposed to be left open. It was to reflect the meta narrative nature the game was going for.
- Solid, I'm your father.
- Such a lust for paternity! WHOOOOOO?!
+Isamu Lucas "No. That's not true! That's impossible!"
+Isamu Lucas LMAO THANK YOU FOR THE COMMENT
+Christopher Dempsey "Search your feelings. You know it to be true!"
Chimerism101 NOOOO!!! NOOOO!!!
Words that changed my life:
"Yup" _ Solid Snake
Metal Gear is so amazing...
+ArtezzGaming it's the first video game implementing cinematic presentation.
Etal gear is one of the true reasons I started playing video games
you forgot Solid
@@emadwolf10 I mean it's inclusive to the games that don't have solid in the title, like the MSX games
I decided to watch this and I'm more immersed than I was in 80 hours of MGSV
+Tloc222 True. Fantastic game but poor MGS.
+Tloc222 im sorry if you don't know how to play mgsv, there is PLENTY of immersive moments like this one, well i guess people rather have it shoved in their faces then having the need to look for them.
+Paulo H Moments instead of full immersion in story - thats Phantom Pain. And we can miss them all coz we have to farm "gold" and soldiers for more guns. Thats so MGS... Oh, I forgot about Clash of FOB's.
Marcin Szwaja
lol keep disliking the game, you want my pity or somenthing?
+Paulo H game is pretty good but there wasn't any ending to the game, didn't get the closure and all...(upto 30-31, the game was doing good but then all of sudden an abrupt ending)
Konami cut content, there was definitely a chapter 3 and somewhere I heard the game had 5 chapters and we only got to play one... sad really
but one of the greatest gameplay mechanics of this time regardless of the storyline
This Codec call about Big Boss and Gray Fox is possibly the most important one to listen to in the entire franchise.
Yup.
*dramatic music continues*
"You've changed"
"I don't believe you"
Those feel like a shot straight to the heart
Plus Snake's effort, still talking or changing the subject when Campbell stays silent, like trying to drive the conversation to something useful
That's some quality writing right there, you can relate to that
Best voice acting in the series, way better than the twin snakes
Could not agree with you anymore all the voice actors could not be more perfect for each character especially Gray Fox in this one his voice really deserves its own ovation especially his final scene!!
"yup"
It's amazing how many subtleties you can catch from Snake and Naomi's conversation on re-watch once you know the truth about her. This is definitely the most well-written game in the series.
damn right son
so sad that most people I know doesn't know anything about this masterpiece
yes cuz hideo is a hack, he did MGS which is a masterpiece but his ego got so inflated from that game that he screwed up all the other games stories, the only one i like besides from this one is 4, but still has a lot of pullass stuff.
@@brunomoreno3666 So because you’re too dumb to follow a multi-game plot. Good to know.
This is when Hayter had the perfect voice down for Solid Snake in my mind after all the controversy over Keifer. It's hard to listen to his voice in the later games now for me.
+Neco The Sergal Chef The only problem with Keifer's voice is that he can't express sorrow, only rage.
solesurvivor5 Solid Snake never really expressed. No 'Snake' has ever expressed - though, you didn't say 'express' WHAT, like, Emotions? Feelings? If so, none have, so it wouldn't matter. They all are, quite socially awkward when it comes to expressing anything that doesn't involve the mission and intel.
That being said, Keifer is fine with Rage, because Venom is mostly about rage.
+Neco The Sergal Chef Metal Gear Solid 2 was good as well, considering the direction they were going for. They wanted an aged snake...little rasp
Metal Gear Solid 3 - voice direction was probably to sound like snake, but set him apart from solid by gruffing it up
Metal Gear Solid 4 - Aged and brittle sounding snake. I get it, but kind of annoying to listen to.
Metal Gear Solid Peace Walker - Set it apart from Solid, but try to make him sound ten years older.
That's what I think happened when it came to voice direction
+Neco The Sergal Chef I completely agree, it was perfect here. That's why I'm hoping for maybe a remake of the original Metal Gears 1 and 2, need more young Solid Snake
+Guilherme A. Modesti I thought the Snake voice he did in MGS3 was pretty solid, what really bothered me though were Hayter's deliveries in Peacewalker, that shit was WAY over the top in my opinion, he sounded like he'd gargled acid before he went into the booth.
I thought it was kinda pointless to change the voice actor considering that "Big Boss" doesn't even say anything in the entire fucking entirety of MGSV, there's no codec or any of that shit that defined MG in my opinion, I was completely disconnected from the character and the world. Most of the time I played as one of my mercs because fuck it.
Naomi must have shocked when she learned that solid Snake called Frank Jaeger his friend……
she learned a lot about the guy who killed her brother during this incident
"That's patricide!"
"Yup."
I think he forgot to mention that Big Boss also was trying to kill him with an assault rifle and all he had was a can of spray paint and a lighter.
This game has the BEST voice acting ever.
"You're a scientist, not a fortune-teller."
I know
............
DAVID HAYTER DO YOU READ ME??? THIS IS THE BEST SNAKE VOICE OF YOURS IN YOUR METAL GEAR CARREER. IF YOU'RE IN MGSV IN ANY WAY, DONT DESTROY IT.
***** He probably is still part of it in secret. He will play solid snake no doubt and hopefully we get to see Frank Jaeger!
Double Barrel Yeah im sure too he is in mgs v, but i just dont want to hear him sound like grrrhrrhrhrhrhrhrhgggggrhrhrhhhrhhhh you know. It has to be like this, clean, smooth, not cartoonish, and tone is important too. So much using high and low notes doesnt add more emotion to it ( by high and low i mean, mgs3. It was not better than 2.1 ) mgs2 was good in that way, but mgs1 is the best.
Why did the 90s end an amazing period for some revolutionary video games.
You know as far as 90's go, Video Games are a media form where I fell the 2000's and the 2010's lived up and surpassed it, whereas movies, cartoons, and music all continue to fall short.
+NightIMarEx1 Agreed.it's because japan is no longer making good games only with few exception though.For me pandering towards otaku is slowly killing gaming industry in japan.The West also is not doing any better.they have technical edge but there are still producing same old dumb down casual bs since the success of fps games in last gen
Because I'm batman.
+NightIMarEx1 I like turtles
TheKestevon Ok hipster
It's a shame that they didn't copy the music in the Twin Snakes remake.
And the voice acting...well the rawness and emotion at least
SplashyPlays Since Kojima wanted an open-world remake of MGS1, some of the original music needs to be in it.
Totally agree, the only reason the ps1 trumps gamecubes version. Saying that I love both !
SplashyPlays or dialogues
Man, the dialogue is so much better than Twin Snakes. They really should have made it mandatory for all the actors to listen to their lines from the original to re-create it in the remake.
This is really the best of Hayter's work as Solid Snake.
"Let's just say I needed to be alone for a while and Alaska was the perfect place."
So much passion there.
I want a remake of the games leading up to this one where Solid Snake was still a rooky but with the new fox engine graphics.
Denny Spence In gz aren t around 9-12. Sorry for my english, i 'm spanish
For me, I would always love this game as I played at first time on PS1. The
old graphics is so attractive to me especially when I remember every
moment that I've played long time ago.
Denny Spence They are around 14 years old in Phantom Pain. Project started 1970..GZ takes place in 1975
Kojima said that the first MGS remake with Fox Engine will happen but Kojima won't be the director for it, he will handle it to another team just like Twin Snakes. To be honest, me too I would love to play it with Fox Engine, but I really feel the original one will still the best forever.
The voice acting in this game is phenomenal. Snake's conversation about Big Boss shows how badass both of them are.
My all time favorite game. The sequels did surpass this game in terms of gameplay, but this game easily has the best story while the cast remains the greatest of all games ever. The sequels are full of just embarrassing moments.
+Tommy Cruz I think exact like you
+Tommy Cruz There is more character development in this 8 minute 44 second video than the overwhelming majority of Phantom Pain.
+B-Eazy Phantom Pain is supposed to be a final piece of the puzzle of the metal gear solid series. Instead kojima vent overbudget and got himself fired before he could finish the story. But still phantom pain tells us "the fans of bigboss" of the reasons of his wickedness in MG, MGS2 and MGS1.
MGS PP is more build around after the events of peace walker. If you were a fan of that, definately you will love this.
Chew JeeKian In MGS1, Big Boss was a mythical legend/psychotic madman who was so highly valued terrorists wanted the remains of his long dead body to enhance their genetically modified army.
In MGSV, Big Boss is a coward who couldn't face the music for creating a nuclear powered mercenary company and attempting to lie to the United Nations about it. So he brainwashed one of his loyal medics, who just so happened to have a dismembered arm, brain damage, and a body full of shrapnel and tooth remains, into getting FULL BODY plastic surgery to take his place and deal with all his personal problems, including dealing with his psychotic son who is trying to kill him for being a deadbeat father and passing him inferior genes, killing the other psycho who sent an army to bomb his company, and dealing with that greedy, self serving jackass of a best friend "Miller".
Meanwhile, the "real" big boss is lamping it up on some tropical island somewhere with some half naked blondie named "eva", reminiscing about the good ole days. Occasionally taking time to send the medic tapes, patronizing him into thinking he's "really" big boss and how he should be proud of himself. All while he's plotting to send his other bad ass kid in to kill him so he can eventually reclaim his name and all the fame that dumb ass medic built up for him.
I'd say MGS1 had FAR better writing than that mess phantom pain.
+B-Eazy I did mention 'fan of peace walker' not MGS 1
That music at 4:33 and the dialogue that it accompanies... I've never found it harder to suppress tears.
Yes hahaha
+Matthew Williams Sadly, no. I either missed it in the game's OST, or it wasn't there at all.
"Yup".
The song is the best is yet to come without the vocal
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Yup.
The way Hayter delivers that line at 4:36 always gives me chills
Along with how Paul Eiding delivers everything after; "Big Boss. There was no way you could. It happened in Zanzibar six years ago. Only Snake and I know the real truth of what happened there." Perfect line and delivery. You could feel the seriousness and trauma in the words along with Best is Yet to Come in the background. Genius
I hope Kojima do a remake of the very first games...personally the best character in the series is Solid Snake
Big Boss FTW
twin snakes... but the original is better i mean
Smorsh
oh okay that would be cool
Since Snake told Naomi that Big Boss is his father, and that Big Boss wanted Snake to kill him, let's hope Big Boss tells him in the Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake remake. But I still want to see Solid Snake burning him with the Aerosol can & lighter in a cutscene. After the post-credit cutscenes, Snake can say that he is retiring from FOXHOUND & that he is going to Alaska to have some peace.
Actually, solid is just a tool. He isn't a character at all. Just a body, carrying foxdie wherever it goes. There is nothing good about solid snake.
at 8:20, in 1998, Kojima and the gang inspire assassins creed without knowing it xD
+Gurēbusu yes, I remember playing peace walker and being able to preform the leap of faith and hide in a pile of haystack
At the time i thought it was only an easter egg but now it all makes sense xD
+Gurēbusu that i didn't know since i never finished MGS4 (I dont won a ps3) even though i played all the other games
+Gurēbusu I have heard is more a watch then play game xD
6:44 - Solid snake was very mature compared to big boss... goddamit, it's almost like it was Solid Snake who understood The Boss words about being a Soldier insted of Big Boss.
EDGY NECK BEARD big boss himself admitted that he believed Solid Snake could have done things Better he was on his place
“No, wait. There was a man who said he was my father.” Gets me every time.
Especially when you think of the manner in which Solid Snake Kills Big Boss in Metal Gear 2 Solid Snake by burning Him alive with a Cigarette Lighter and a can of Spray Paint, although this is Retconned in MGS4, when it is revealed that Big Boss survived the ordeal
When I first played this game, this was the first moment that really reminded me that Snake really is human. For most of the game, he’s an unstoppable super-spy badass, a regular American James Bond. Seeing him reach out to someone he barely knows just to take his mind off the intense physical and emotional pain he was in, baring his soul to someone he’d only met a few hours ago, was oddly moving to me. Despite all his experience, all the times he’s saved the world, he still has that shred of human weakness that never really leaves anyone.
They didn't just kill my man Sigint. They overkilled him!
And why is Naomi getting so heated about Snake talking about Frank Jaeger? It's not like she knows him or anything. Oh, brother...
This game made me cry as a kid back then. I have never felt so connected to a videogame except with this masterpiece.
Same here. Sniper Wolf's death made my eyes well up. One hell of a masterpiece indeed. Pure art.
8:29 "So what about my fate" She gets nervous and says she doesn't know, when probably she was afraid to tell him he would die sooner because of his old, cloned DNA.
Also foxdie
*"War is no reason to end a friendship."*
*"We were fighting bare handed in a mine field."*
*"I am lightning, the rain transformed."*
You can't tell me these aren't the most badass lines ever.
Why did you quote snake from this game twice then do a non sequitur and quote MGS4 Raiden
@@hylianroCause those are his favorites.
That background music!
This is what recent mgs games missed.
This is why MGS1 is much better than MGS3 or even MGS4 when it comes to dialogues. MGS1 is simply brilliant.
+ultragarrison better than mgs3? lol
Phantom Boss yeap
+ultragarrison The reason for that is because of the translator who redid some of the dialogue to make it sound more believable to western audiences. Unfortunately, he was given the boot after MGS1 due to Kojima being displeased and then demanded more literal translations for the sequels.
Literal translations from the Japanese language sometimes means really stilted/awkward writing in english.
Scott Perry Which is why it is great. You can feel the tension and urgency better in MGS1 even though the stakes a higher in MGS3.
+Phantom Boss Easily
Yup.
By:Solid Snake
3:50 That conversation is MUCH better if Snake submits to the torture.
"He wanted it..."
Knowing what I know now about Big Boss, the guy really had no please to go except for the battlefield. He was broken by MG2.....
Remake of MG1, MG2 and MGS on Fox Engine RIGHT NOW!!!
“I know it sounds strange to most people, but we were just two soldiers doing our jobs.”
Snake has lived a completely different life that I can’t relate to, but is so fascinating at the same time.
Typically people are more interested in others whom they cannot relate to
"Besides, some people just need killing.."
Is Snake talking about himself or BB here..
+Aivottaja I think it's intended for Him and BB. Both had something to clean up..
+Aivottaja He meant Big Boss. As Snake said "He wanted it". Big Boss knew nothing else but war, death on the battlefield was probably how he saw his own end. But when you think about it, Big Boss probably did want Snake to kill him. Just like how Sniper Wolf was waiting for someone to kill her too.
Big Boss talks about it in MGS4, he said "the moment I killed the boss, I was already dead." He basically was numb for the rest of his life up until the moment SS killed him in MG2. He started feeling horrible with how things went with zero, chipher, SS, ocelot, Eva. He felt the most for SS because he was a tool of the Patriots. He says "maybe if you were in shoes, you would have handled it differently." Seeing how SS was a good guy trying to rid the world of metal gears and nuclear war.
+illmaticer Solid Snake ends up being the perfect anagram for The Boss's will at the end of the series. He wasnt driven a tool of the government or anyone else, nor was he carrying a phantom pain with him that caused him to turn to the dark side.
Edwardo Avila
Anagram?
Naomi: I have a very weird and uncomfortable relationship with my family.
Snake: Colonel HOLD MY BEER!
@Dr. Complex Cigar**
6:02 "After you´ve been through as many wars as me, it´s hard to trust anyone". great line.
I can't help but wonder if Kojima replaced Hayter because Hayter just couldn't do THIS voice anymore. This is peak Snake, the voice sounds cool but natural, but eventually Hayter put too much gravel into it and it just became more of a parody of a badass than an actual badass. I love Hayter, love love LOVE the guy, but it's still obvious that his voice is long gone from it's prime.
I don't know if it's intentional for age but I had to do a double take on Old Snake's voice. It's rather comical and a bit funny. It's like the dictionary entry for the uber stereotypical tough guy voice.
"We were fighting bare handed in a mine field."
Forever my favorite quote out of the series. I miss classic Metal Gear: Campbell, codec scenes, and a pre-Patriot plot. The series got needlessly complicated after this. Still a great series, though...
The gray Fox boss battle should be similar to Solid Snake vs Liquid final boss fights in MGS1 and MGS4 in Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake.
+Naked Snake But not to a good story
Mgs3 should have been the final game I think
Frank Jaeger
Naomi Hunter
"Jaeger" = "Hunter" in German
It's subtle things like these that give Kojima a lot of credit.
All the years and I had no idea about this
If you played Metal Gear 2 Gustava calls him Frank Hunter
Interesting! I don't think I ever got very far in the old Metal Gear 1 or 2. Thanks for sharing.
@@Sir_Duckyweather Metal Gear 1 is certainly showing its age, but Metal Gear 2 is genuinly a fantastic game in its own right. In fact it's probably my second favourite Metal Gear game after Snake Eater.
MGS1 is the most beautiful, emotional, and complex masterpiece I've ever experienced. It's not only the best game in the franchise, it's also the best artwork that has ever existed.
the music alone is just haunting, playing this as a kid it scared the shit out of me alone
"Yeaahhhhhh.. we can't give your BB's remains because technically he's not dead..."
The subtlety of the script is so brilliant. Seeing this scene again after the major plot reveals is unbelievable. Naomi's reactions are absolutely phenomenal.
Naomi knew exactly what Solid Snake's fate was going to be....
The developers should remake metal gear 1 and 2 but with today's systems.
They already did the HD collection but not for mgs1
Berkay Shady
He meant Metal Gear 1 & Metal Gear 2 not Metal Gear Solid 1 and Metal Gear Solid 2
They did and the original is better. Ask for new games that's what we need but won't happen
@@flowrepins6663 no they didn’t, idk where you saw that… we ask for a remake of Metal Gear 1 and Metal Gear 2 : Solid snake . That’s where solid snake kills venom snake and big boss.
New games would be pointless cause the serie is over.
Nothing Kojima makes will ever surpass the original MGS
A MGS to even surpass MGS!
...SNAKE EATER
Considering Phantom Pain's and Death Stranding's writing and one of MGS's co-writers (Tomokazu Fukushima) leaving after Snake Eater, that would not be a bad statement to bet your life on
@@MarioBario gameplay-wise though yeah either MGS 3 or maybe Phantom Pain? would be the pinnacle of gameplay for the series
Personally I go with Snake Eater despite it's aging
@@reboomer8369 mgs5 has pretty good writing, its just extremely confused
"He wanted it"
Metal gear Solid is my favorite series of all time, and MGS3 was (and probably still is) my favorite game. And to hear that Big Boss probably became seriously depressed, and eventually wanted death to come to him just breaks my heart man.
It makes sense. Big Boss got screwed over so many times. After everything that happened with Paz in Peacewalker, he became a broken man. So yeah, by 1999 he became a death seeker who wanted to die.
He was just sick of being used this whole time acting as the phantom and wanted it to be over.
@@YABUKIJOE2077 no, the big boss in zanzibar land was the real big boss
What I always loved about this part was the tone of snakes voice when he talks about killing big boss, and how he saw gray fox as his friend. he doesn't excuse the things he's done, just accepts that they happened, because he had to do it.
it's interesting seeing the parallels between him and big boss, seeing as how BB had to kill The Boss, whilst Snake had to kill both his father, and his idol in order to succeed in his mission. but whereas Big Boss took the route to change the world to how he saw fit, i love how Snake, having gone through similar circumstances, despite having become numb from all the trauma he experienced, and realising that he was born to carry on a bloody legacy of war, saw more reason to save the world from that way of life.
Solid snake was the truest hero of the series
"A Hind D? Colonel, what's a Russian gunship doing here?"
" I have no idea. But it looks like our little diversion got their attention. Now is your best chance to slip in unnoticed."
well someone didn't have a vibrating controller when they played!
4:36 it's a retcon the fact that Big Boss reveals that he is Solid Snake's dad never happened in MG2SS.
The Best is Yet to Come kicking in at 4:33 is signature Kojima genius.
Unforgettable game.
The original, and the best.
Why they changed Mei Ling and Naomi's voice actor in Twins Snakes then all the way up to MGS4, from chinese and british to american is fucking beyond me.
David Hayter will always be the REAL Solid Snake
Such amazing voice work from David Hayter, Paul Eiding, Jennifer Hale, and the rest of the cast as well. Such a shame that MGS5 Shit all over that, despite the good gameplay but even that had to have forced FOB shoved into it.
fob is optional
Except for the fact that they don't explain that you have to reject the TOS every single time just to make sure you aren't harassed every single time you open the IDROID to make an FOB. Many people would assume that you'd need to accept the TOS to play the game and you are then forced into FOB.
+Guts The Berserker or you know play offline...
+Guts The Berserker or you know play offline...
+Guts The Berserker Hayter in his prime. Shake sounded so confident, yet at the same time so cold. "He wanted it. Some people just NEED killing".
Snake back on his prime, I miss him...
So funny how no one caught on to that mystery over Big Boss' body between 1:56-2:03 , Well Snake.. you see... he's not actually dead.
Either that or they had something else planned back then.
***** Where exactly did you get that info from ?
***** I do have the original Metal Gear Solid for PS1. But I don't recall any part of the game where they said they found Big Boss' hand and knife. I only remember them talking about restoring Big Boss' DNA from just a single string of his hair.
***** There's an HD version of the first MGS? Never heard of it.
When I say the original Metal Gear Solid, I mean the one that was originally released for PS1 (a physical copy, not the digitally emulated version from the PlayStation Store). I already beat that game several times (it's my favorite one of the series) and I didn't find anything that says they only found Big Boss' hand and knife. It was explainned in the Briefing tapes that they were able to restore Big Boss' genetic information from just a single string of his hair (even though his body was burned severely).
Also, did you know there's actually a version of Metal Gear Solid for PC? You don't really need a PSX emulator to find out.
***** It used to be on stores around the year 2000. Now you can only get it via pirated download, I think.
Wait a second, are you talking about Metal Gear Solid The Twin Snakes?
"War is no reason to end a friendship" Suzaku and Lelouch say Hi...
@@ethanstrohm5841 Two main characters from Code Geass, it's a very good anime
I WANT THE LIES, AND NOW!!!
1:50 the moment you realize Big Boss is still alive in MGS4
Can't give away the body of someone that's still alive...
Kojima you sly devil.
Yeah I always felt that something Hinky was going on when Campbell refused to elaborate on why the Government would not turn over Big Boss's "Remains" also another thing that stood out to Me is when Snake asked Naomi about His Genetic Fate She hurriedly replies "Your Fate, I'm sorry, I have no idea" almost as though She already knew about Snake's accelerated aging but couldn't bring Herself to tell Him, and obviously The Patriots probably wouldn't have been to Happy about that either
Yup
This. This is when Naomi realizes that Snake isn’t the remorseless killer that she thinks he is. That he truely thought of Gray Fox as a friend, and that if could have, he wouldn’t have nearly killed him. That’s why she makes it so that FOXDIE won’t kill him
1998.
This well-written game was made. 1998...
6:43 Nuh-uh, Snake. You aren't selling me on that. I've played through MG2:SS. It was definitely personal. Very, incredibly personal.
To be fair Fox was lenient and was willing to let Snake go home, but Snake didn't
"I don't have any family" 🥺🥺
Poor David
Metal Gear is nothing without David Hayter and Kojima. Thanks Konami, no, fuck you Konami. I miss scenes like these so much in MGS5.
And you thought this was all about nuclear weapons and preventing a launch when it was really just about Big Boss vs Zero. You thought you were fighting for the right side but really you were fighting for the institutions propped up by Zero's AIs.
Snake is an American hero.
written by Japanese tho