This scene was ruined when I saw a tweet. "Skull Face practiced his speech about language for Big Boss for 9 years and told it to the wrong person who didn't even care."
+Stikfa Reaper Yeah if I was Skull Face I'd be pissed at that guy. "What the...?! Turn that fucking radio down, I'm vilaining back here, damnit!!".OR...Skull Face sees it's awkward, and is trying to think of how to handle it. He could jump the drivers shit over it, but then if he shows Snake his temper, maybe Snake would start crying and refuse to get out of the car when they get to the hangar. Skull Face thinks: "Yeah, he's nervous enough already. Dude hasn't said a word since we got in this car. If I lash out at my helpers now, he'd probably faint and then who am I gonna talk to?".You know, Skull Face is that guy that says everything's cool when your kid accidentally breaks a plank in his privacy fence, but as soon as you're back in your house he's in his basement working a punching bag and calling it you. The temper is there, but you won't see it... yet.
true big boss conversation SF: i was born in a small village BB: a small village? SF: I was still a child when we were raided by soldiers BB: soldiers? SF:foreign soldiers BB: foreign soldiers? And so on and so forth
+Gato Negro Good idea, but the fact that Snake just fidgets in his seat like he's really disinterested in everything that is going on seems kind of odd, like looking off into the distance and generally not looking like he is even paying attention. Still, 'tone of voice' can only come across when words escape lips.
Nison545 I don't get the joke - for real. Is it supposed to be funny that Skull Face sees Snake's bionic arm and is thus afraid that Snake might take revenge against him and cut off his arm? Snake's being held at gunpoint. Again: Explain please.
I want to know how the driver and passenger are feeling through all this "My mom wanted me to be a chef like my father and his father, but I was like 'No, mom, I'm gonna be a soldier,' now I'm driving a jeep for Nosferatu while he gives a speech about a parasites and nukes to a guy who was in a 9 year long coma until a few weeks ago. I should've listened to you, mom."
I also like to imagine the theme song was playig from the Jeep Radio, and they were just waiting for their boss to stop talking and just enjoy the ride.
Skull Face: *shakes Snake violently* "SAY SOMETHING. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, RESPOND TO WHAT I AM SAYING. PLEASE. AT LEAST A FUCKING NOD!" Snake: "Kept you waiting, huh?" Skull Face: *squints* "I've wasted ten years of my life for this."
Skullface: "so... its gonna be another four hours or so before we get there... want to play a game? how about "I spy." get it?! cause you're .... like a spy... no? Are you hungry? I made some sandwiches... I-Is any of this getting through at all? *ahem* well fine then I'm gonna take a nap, wake me when we hit a gas station."
The part where skull face is showing Snake his open container of parasites, wouldn't it be funny if the jeep hit a big bump causing him to lose the container smashing it on the ground and getting run over by the jeep behind them.
@toasterwaffleowen4709 if you zoom on skullface's pilot in okb zero it's pequad and his helmet has diamond dogs logo, the containers in okb zero also has diamond dogs logos (not a reused assets because same containers can be found in mfinda oilfield but without logos) Venom snake can understand Hungarian in the devil's house mission without interpreter, both men have same scar on right side of the head. Also in sahalanthropus mission if you focus you can see skullface escaping in the jeep and going far away from the site, he never died +venom snake sparing skullface in OKBZ zero and suddenly deciding to go along with him (when his main goal was to kill him) +skullface sparing venom snake at every encounter which is suspicious Skullface is how venom snake looks, venom snake is the mental version he has in his mind, the way he was programmed, but in truth he took most of the damage in the helicopter explosion so he got burned. And so much more.
@@cognition5133 watching skull face, mission 45 was harder than extreme sahelathropus. Although with the parasite suit armor and Fulton extractions you can absouletly cheese mission 45
@@joshgroban5291 took me a few days to try cuz I was lazy and didn't want to change my equipment, i planted like 5 c4s to destroy their armor and just shot them with the double barrel
Imagine if Solid Snake was the one on the other end of Skull Face's seat. "I was born in a small village." "A small village?" "I was still a child when we were raided by soldiers, foreign soldiers." "Foreign soldiers?" "Torn from my elders, I was made to speak their language." "Speak their language?"
@@joshualittlewolfe8550 Played the cutscene for the first time at night, only for the song to end and 6:00 AM hit when we reached Serrak Power Plant. Feels so badass.
+Brian Cahill " As fried megi was explaining he's plan to me I could not help but to feel a bit tired by the soothing sound of music that was coming from the radio of the car, I slowly found myself drifting of to the land of sheeps... and in my dreams I saw what many would believe impossible... a cloud made out of pancakes. When I came to we were still sitting in the car still going, Raidio turned off and no pancakes in sight. It turns out that mr megi had noticed my drift to sleep but had kindly refrained from waking me so that I Morgan Freeman could continue enjoying my slumber... now awake and radio turned off he was free to continue with he's explonation to rule the world"
All throughout this speech I was thinking "I can throw a grenade to the truck behind us, knock out the guards in truck and drag skull face away before the guys up front can catch us. Fulton him out then call a chopper."
I absolutely *love* non-cinematic, one-way conversation with long, awkward pauses in between segments of Skull Face's monologue. Big Boss had the absolute best lines by far, though. It would have been really cool if you could get another 1 minute long cassette tape *after* that showcases Big Boss' thoughts. Or, Kaz could say every line for him, and then Big Boss could say "Yeah...I guess...." again.
Wait... we have a cutscene in a Metal Gear Solid game were Snake DOESN'T repeat the last word of whatever the other person said but as a question? WHAT BASS-ACKWARDS WORLD IS THIS?!!
You know what Kojima should've added to this scene? Skull Face should've carried a small wooden box containing two cigars; one for himself and another for Venom as an ironic "gesture of respect" (as he still thinks Venom is Big Boss himself). Both of them smoke their cigars while the song plays on the background (would've actually been badass). And then, after the Sahelanthropus fight when Skull Face dies slowly beneath the rubble, he's surrounded by a pool of gasoline. Venom lights the unfinished stub of cigar he was given, takes a long puff and as he exhales the smoke, throws it on Skull Face who suddenly is set on fire. The man suffers the same fate when he was a child, but this time he'll die a slow and agonizing death. And thus Venom/Big Boss finally becomes "a demon" he was always hinted to be.
Fuck haters, I really like this Sins Of The Father moment. I mean, when those two, worst enemies, are watching at each other, and this THE SIIIIIIIINS NEVER DIES plays, gives me chills.
MarsShadow Skull Face's face is scary and is badly burnt, anyone in his position wouldn't want to directly look him in the eye, if anything I find it completely logical for him not feeling comfortable being there with him
Good point: Never has there been a game where the Protagonist and Antagonist are sitting so close to each other without either actively trying to kill the other Bad point: Venom just leaves Skullz in the dust the entire trip
That same philosopher (Emil Cioran) said this as well: "Revenge is not always sweet, once it is consummated we feel inferior to our victim." So, if Achmed (Jeff Dunham Reference) here was truly a man of literature, he would have known that if he takes revenge on Zero, it would not end well for him.
He did end up getting away with it somewhat through using the parasites to cripple zero using a fake pin badge and turn him into a vegetable relieing on life support to live.
I was expecting something epic from big boss at 5:03. Like he was re-adjusting himself for an amazing speech. Explaining to him that wiping out a tongue is not a solution. That nuclear weapon proliferation is not a solution. It's a perpetuation of the problem. You can justify suffering all you want. In the end, people will not leave the world be. The world will end. You are a madman. And I am a Snake waiting for the right moment to sink my teeth in. And the second the jeep stops you hear the radio saying "This is Pequod. Ready to fire on your command, Boss!" And then Big Boss yells "FIRE!" Then slow mo CQC badassery and explosions ensue. But then Skull Face pushes a button and unleashes Sahelanthropus before Snake can stop him. Instead we get awkward stare for 3 minutes.
Despite the criticism shown here, I think Skull Face had plans that reflects off indigenous sufferage, making this scene very relevant & contempoary. Many tribes in rural US & indigenous communities are vocally displaying their distain over the loss of native tounge. Much less the impact it's receiving from overwhelmed economic incentives & unilateralism from English usage. Each tribe often dreams or fantasizes over some "blaze of glory" way of retaliation against governments enforcing this status quo. It touches on sociology & anthropology to the point that Skull Face is a martyr for his Hungarian roots and is acting on his blaze of glory moment. A mutagent lasts decades when fully used, so killing all those speaking English is an attempt to change that status quo. Written English would be recessed if a vector killing strain of English existed 24/7.
It's honestly a cool idea for a villain motivation. Sadly, it comes right before he dies and pretty much only comes up right here. You don't find out any more about the man except for the briefing tapes you unlock at the end of the story missions, at which point Skullface has been dead for hours at that point and it doesn't matter much at that point.
I do like some of the ideas behind Skull Face's character. The concept of wanting to eradicate a whole language is interesting but utterly ridiculous and grandiose in it's execution, which is often the charm behind Kojima's storytelling. I think this scene would have worked a lot better if it was shortened, the song was removed, and Venom actually spoke instead of just sitting there like a plank. MGS1 had amazing conversations between Snake and his enemies so this feels like a missed opportunity to me. They must have been paying Kiefer 10 grand a line or something.
1:25 Skullface: "a philosopher once said 'It is no nation we inhabit, but a language.'" Venom Snake: (Looks at camera) "Sheesh! You hearing this shit too?"
It wasn't until like my 5th viewing that I realized Skull Face's vision of the future becomes Big Boss' plan for Outer Heaven. Uniting the world through war and nuclear deterrence, "a language of nukes." Now I finally understand why Skull Face's phantom is with Venom in the final cutscene. Because with Sahelanthropus, Venom (and Big Boss) will fulfill his will.
This scene is perfect. Skull Face believes he's talking to the real Big Boss, believes that he's explaining his grand plan to the real deal. Meanwhile, in Punished Snake's eye there is this emptiness. He's like an empty shell, a void staring back. Skull Face has no idea that his glare is for nothing, he's not talking to the true Boss, and his plans are about to fall apart not because of his rival, but because there just happened to be someone even angrier and more vengeful than him in the general area, as if he was crushed by a simple move of fate rather than having an epic downfall. I also loved controlling the camera. MGSV is about gameplay and a variety of storytelling ideas and being able to view the staredown for yourself is awesome.
+ZerogunRivale This scene is garbage. It's absolutely disappointing that he's speaking to the fake BB, a random medic. I don't care if he's the best solider in MSF. People begin to blame Konami for this when it was obviously Kojima to blame for this horrible display of writing. Really? I want to rid the world of the English language? What would that do? Nothing. Especially when Skullface speaks English. Snake doesn't say a word, because Kojima thinks it's being edgy for Snake not to speak. Are you kidding me? Snake never says a word to Skullface? Also why not just kill him? Such a cliche villain who doesn't kill the protagonist when he has the chance. Boss nevers displays any anger in fact it seems he's not really after Skullface for revenge. So much that he doesn't even kill Skullface. If you think this is brilliant then you are easily impressed and have never played the previous metal gear games. There is such a thing as a bad opinion, and if you have one be prepared to defend it. Kojima really dropped the ball on this game.
a) If you have to insult the person you are speaking to, you aren't very good at getting your opinion across. I've played every Metal Gear game, including the MSX ones. Metal Gear Solid 3 is still my favorite, followed by MGS2. b) Skull Face wants to wipe out English because he wants revenge against Zero. He clearly says in his speech that he sees Zero and Cipher as representative of the military force that the US government dealt out during that time. Since in Metal Gear universe Cipher is the one influencing the government, it sort of makes sense. Since Zero is his target for revenge and English is his tongue, then it's the choice for language which he wants to wipe out. Simultaneously, he feels this would stop Cipher totally and wholly since at this point, Cipher has stretched its arms into much of the US government and military. c) I agree, it's cliche for Skull Face not to kill Snake right then and there. It was also cliche for Solidus not to kill Raiden during the torture sequence and Volgin not to kill Snake when he caught him at Grozny Grad. d) Punished Snake never displays any emotion, but he's also this kind of being of emptiness, a fractured being who really is neither Medic nor Big Boss. He's not anybody and doesn't really have his own identity. Whether one likes the way this plays it, is of course, a matter of opinion.
+tylerboy565 how about you just accept it that konami is the bitch that made this shit , who knows maybe kojima was already out when they were about to finish the game , its not the games fault
+ZerogunRivale I'm actually surprised that people glance over the fact that kojima is basically handing over the director seat for the camera in this scene. There is so much going on in this scene, this video doesn't do much justice in keeping it static, and I agree with others while it can be a little awkward to see them have a stare down, that's kind of the point. Skull Face is showing his "power" and venom doesn't have the words for it. The music describes vemon for you.
"Hey man you gonna say something about my evil plan?" "...." "I mean, it's pretty genius right? No more English! AH HA HA HA!" "..." *checks iDroid* "H-hey, c'mon man I spent over 9 years planning for this!" "..." "Say something" "......" "Please" "......" "......." "......" ".......uh...." *Switches on radio* "LET YOUR WORLD FEAR US ALL!" Fuck this scene.
+Ruby Rose *Music ends* Snake: ... Skufface: ...Still nothing? Snake: *Puts NVG on and off multiple times* Skullface: ....This is the last time i'm car pooling with you ever again...
LOL guys it's cause he's supposed to be YOU ha ha, what a great recycled twist from MGS2 eh? They could have made Venom Solidus and it would have ended great but nope. Have an unfinished game.
Fuck, I don't care how awkward that silent stare was, that song is so awesome, at 6:35, I even remember in my game, it was turning to morning, so when ha art started, the sun shone through the area. It was so memorable I love this game
This has to be the most awkward cutscene in the entire video game history. 5 minutes of a guy talking on the other person who never responds during a car ride, then soul music just starts playing for a few minutes of silence.
+Jacob Dahl Such a cliche in Metal Gear Solid now. That along with the "I was born on the battlefield origin" But you know what, it kind've works. It shows how a persons origin can influence the way they turn out in life. Like if soldiers hadn't attacked Skullface's village, and he had a better origin he might not have become such a hateful and sadistic person in life. He might have become a good man who instead devoted his life to helping people.
+BloodPlusPwn As if Kojima can do no wrong. Face it he dropped the ball with the story in this game. You know it was him especially since he has his name plastered all over the game credits before and after every mission. Clearly he is taking credit for all the writing. Not Konami, which is to blame for many things but not for the mediocre story Kojima wrote.
That's a lot of stuff I never said? I was just making a joke. Of course Kojima dropped the ball. He reached way out of him area of expertise and delivered a subpar game as a result.
Funfact but did you know that Skull Face was originally going to be named Scar Face? And that James did all his lines for the game in under an hour? I found that out and thought I share while we all wait for the jeep to reach it’s destination… also one time I was replaying this mission, Skull Face got through the whole speech without that awkward silence moment. I don’t know how it happened but he said everything in time that when we reached the destination he was finally done with his speech.
true. think about it for a second. what is the source of amerikkka's power? their language. whitout their language they could never communicate their oppresive ideas and evil rule.
I feel like this was a missed moment for some comedic campy interaction, keep in the speech but at one point just have him change gears. "Are we there yet?" "Are you Listening to me? Take out those damn Ear-buds I am talking to you!" "Sir I need the restroom." "You should have gone before we left!"
![[METAL GEAR SOLID V] Why the fans initially REJECTED Punished "Venom" Snake.](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/CoEAI8JQOC0/mqdefault.jpg)
This scene was ruined when I saw a tweet.
"Skull Face practiced his speech about language for Big Boss for 9 years and told it to the wrong person who didn't even care."
HAH
Oh God, it’s so true XD
God damn it you ruined it but it's true
I thought it was great too, until many years later i came back to re-watch it and you ruined it for me. Now i can't un-know it.
Wrong. Venom had the boss's personality. So he DID care. Yes he isn't the true BB, but a perfect double.
Snake: "my beard itches" "it's hot" "my feet hurt:" "i just wanna go back to mother base and play some pachinko "
"Will this guy ever shut up?"
"Are we there yet?"
Lmao
nananananana car ride, caaar ride
That's good
Skullface is venom snake
MGS1: The Stairs
MGS2: The Elevator
MGS3: The Ladder
MGS4: The Hallway
MGSV: The Ride
Metal Gear 2 Solid Snake: The Hang glider
It's a tradition
Portable Ops: The body dragging
@@oengenheirouniversal4830 the peace walker bosses
@@oengenheirouniversal4830 grind
I bet one of the soldiers in front put on his favorite song because that awkward silence.
4:25
+Stikfa Reaper Yeah if I was Skull Face I'd be pissed at that guy. "What the...?! Turn that fucking radio down, I'm vilaining back here, damnit!!".OR...Skull Face sees it's awkward, and is trying to think of how to handle it. He could jump the drivers shit over it, but then if he shows Snake his temper, maybe Snake would start crying and refuse to get out of the car when they get to the hangar. Skull Face thinks: "Yeah, he's nervous enough already. Dude hasn't said a word since we got in this car. If I lash out at my helpers now, he'd probably faint and then who am I gonna talk to?".You know, Skull Face is that guy that says everything's cool when your kid accidentally breaks a plank in his privacy fence, but as soon as you're back in your house he's in his basement working a punching bag and calling it you. The temper is there, but you won't see it... yet.
Oh yeah,you can play custom music in this car ride.Just played the Wii Shop Channel and let it continue.It continues untill Skull Face stops talking.
Imagine if instead of “Sins of the Father,” the soldier plays “Funky Town,” by Lipps Inc.
true big boss conversation
SF: i was born in a small village
BB: a small village?
SF: I was still a child when we were raided by soldiers
BB: soldiers?
SF:foreign soldiers
BB: foreign soldiers?
And so on and so forth
hahaha you sir have just made my night so much better XD get yourself a cookie you
woke my mate up for that one
That kind of "conversation" would've sucked way less than this awkward elevator-like scene.
And so forth?
boss! *salutes*
The chicken hat was made for this scene.
Yes
Is that what they’re called? Looks cool on Skull Face
@@sbgonzalez167 No, it's called a Domino mask. I was referring to the literal chicken hat Snake can put on to activate the ''easy'' mode.
I played this mission yesterday and kept getting killed inside the final gate. Accepted the chicken hat and wore it throughout all this. Hilarious.
@@goldfinger-9992 lol just capture and use the tanks they put there
When no one's talking in the Uber so the driver turns the music up
MegaMac464 Underrated comment
Lmao! 💀💀😭😭
“A phantom pain.”
He said it, he said the thing!
"To solve this crisis, I must become Superman IV: The Quest for Peace."
He didn't say that.
"I guess you really are A HIDEO KOJIMA GAME METAL GEAR SOLID V: THE PHANTOM PAIN TACTICAL ESPIONAGE OPERATIONS."
@@prosaic.7944 You know, Ellie, we really are the last of us...
THE PHANTOM PAIIIIIIN
THE PHANTOM PAIN IS REAAAAAAAAL
"I wanted Snake to have a more subdued performance expressed through subtle facial movements and tone of voice, rather than words." -- Idaho Kojimbo
+Gato Negro Good idea, but the fact that Snake just fidgets in his seat like he's really disinterested in everything that is going on seems kind of odd, like looking off into the distance and generally not looking like he is even paying attention.
Still, 'tone of voice' can only come across when words escape lips.
+Gato Negro I'd believe that if Snake was actually moving his facial muscles during this scene.
+Hakageryuu The irony being that no one even wanted Keifer in the first place
+blizzzard900
The irony being no cared about Kiefer Sutherland being in the game until they found out he was replacing David Hayter.
Leo Grant Well yeah, I'm not saying he's a bad voice actor, just that Hayter was a better Snake then him.
Meanwhile in Snake's head:
*WE ARE KIDS OF AMERICA! WE ARE THE KIDS IN AMERICA! NA NA NA NA*
ha
YOU SPIN ME RIGHT ROUND BABY RIGHT ROUND LIKE A RECORD PLAYER....
In "My" Snake's head, he's only thinking about fultoning those vehicle along the roads while listening "Sins of the Father" from OKB Zero
Just played this mission yesterday.. realized I could still use my idroid, started playing that song
OH NO NOT ME
I NEVER LOST CONTROL
''S-so..missing an arm huh?''
[SkullFace starts getting anxious]
T-thats cool...I'm like a giant parasite...it's alright y'know...
+pizzarelaguy I laughed way harder than I should have.
+pizzarelaguy I don't get the joke. Please explain.
iWillWakeYouUp Actually? Or just being a buzzkill?
Nison545
I don't get the joke - for real. Is it supposed to be funny that Skull Face sees Snake's bionic arm and is thus afraid that Snake might take revenge against him and cut off his arm? Snake's being held at gunpoint.
Again: Explain please.
04:22 just realized the guy in the left put on the sins of the father
He's like oh shit SF is ranting about this shit again 😤
Hand me that mixtape
Skullface : umm... excuse me, I'm not finished my speech yet..
And the guy in the right is taking a nap. Look to his head movs.
@@haruto5072 Stfu no one cares
This is a weird Mario Kart level.
Just play the Double Dash main theme over this, it's hilarious.
+PTp1ranha You.Are.Amazing.
+DominationSoldier 10/10
PTp1ranha funniest comment I've read In a long time lmao
That makes me picture this green screened over a Mario kart race
I love the casual looks at the camera Snake gives randomly all like "can you believe this crap??"
"Get a load of this guy"
I like your funny words magic man!
Lmaooooooo
“The hell is this song?”
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
(without music)
Skull: (I'm just gonna stare at this fool until he feels uncomfortable)
Boss: (When is this fool gonna stop that uncomfortable stare?)
actually the music is actually played in the game universe, the driver puts it on earlier
@@toddhoward841 HAHAAHHAHA
@@jaydenslaptop the driver didn't want the ride to be awkward. A true angel among demons.
@@channel45853 100%.
Big Boss just wondering what mother base will be serving for dinner tonight lol
"Mmm, if Kaz serves burgers again ill blow up mother base."
@@ifipaidmybartabtheu.swould9208 " mmm thank god its taco Tuesday"
@@Daud-ix4tm
"Mmmmm taco."
I think its ironic that skull face talks about language while Venom says nothing
+Ben "The Montana Merchant Mangler" Garrison he got bored and fell asleep
immunity to the english strand
Double that when the game with the least dialogue and an almost silent protagonist has its main themes centered around language and communication
Double that when the game with the least dialogue and an almost silent protagonist has its main themes centered around language and communication
@@pablo_giustiniani you took "double that" literally
I want to know how the driver and passenger are feeling through all this
"My mom wanted me to be a chef like my father and his father, but I was like 'No, mom, I'm gonna be a soldier,' now I'm driving a jeep for Nosferatu while he gives a speech about a parasites and nukes to a guy who was in a 9 year long coma until a few weeks ago. I should've listened to you, mom."
Lmao
I think V happens over the course of many months, but this comment was still a fun read.
I also like to imagine the theme song was playig from the Jeep Radio, and they were just waiting for their boss to stop talking and just enjoy the ride.
Holy shit dude lmao
@@isaiahdaniels5643 4:25 It was actually playing on the radio xd
That awkward silence, when you talk to a girl that you like.
+PatD17th You feel it too, don't you?
_WOOOOHOAAAAAA_
check out this virgin
@Starscream91 daaaamn
@@Hound-Fox Feeling of *Phantom Pain*
Skull Face: *shakes Snake violently* "SAY SOMETHING. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, RESPOND TO WHAT I AM SAYING. PLEASE. AT LEAST A FUCKING NOD!"
Snake: "Kept you waiting, huh?"
Skull Face: *squints* "I've wasted ten years of my life for this."
+Ricky The truest revengenance
+Ricky Such a lust for words
+Ricky Such a lust for words
+Ricky Such a lust for words
+ShadowVincent3 whoooooooooooooo!?!
Skullface didnt realise snake had airpods lol
Damn it
LoL
Having the speech jump cut to snakes pov with Kids In America blaring would be great
Skullface: "so... its gonna be another four hours or so before we get there... want to play a game? how about "I spy." get it?! cause you're .... like a spy... no? Are you hungry? I made some sandwiches... I-Is any of this getting through at all? *ahem* well fine then I'm gonna take a nap, wake me when we hit a gas station."
+Morgus Schmorgus Reading this with Skullfaces voice in my mind... priceless XD
+Morgus Schmorgus Or how about Ghost Babel^^
+Morgus Schmorgus "...This is gonna be a long goddamn car ride if neither of us talk, Boss. Like- I'm just saying".
4 years late but this had me in stitches
driver: hey i’m gonna stop by mcdonald’s what do you guys want
The part where skull face is showing Snake his open container of parasites, wouldn't it be funny if the jeep hit a big bump causing him to lose the container smashing it on the ground and getting run over by the jeep behind them.
Lmao
Skullface: WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
If secret theatre was a thing in MGSV TPP we might've actually had a chance of seeing a similar scene lol
@@ComicDubbers yeah no, Im doing real theatre rn
Venom: Knock knock.
Skullface: Who's there?
Venom: ...
Skullface: Whooooo!?
Owl Man, that's who.
Venom: Knock knock.
Skullface: Who's there?
Venom: Such a lust for revenge.
Skullface: Such a lust for revenge, Whooooo!?
Such a lust for knocking
5:00
Skullface: "hey, let's awkwardly stare at each other while this song plays!"
+Schwartzwindhero123 Lol, someone should replace the song with "Take on Me" let's see where it gets us.
+JohnJay2142 that would be hilarious
Clipping contest
If you ever feel dumb remember that
Skullface waited 9 years to give his speech but he gave to the wrong person xD
🤣
Not quite, skullface is venom snake.
@@Boss.X5Erm...no he isn't...? 🤨
@toasterwaffleowen4709 if you zoom on skullface's pilot in okb zero it's pequad and his helmet has diamond dogs logo, the containers in okb zero also has diamond dogs logos (not a reused assets because same containers can be found in mfinda oilfield but without logos)
Venom snake can understand Hungarian in the devil's house mission without interpreter, both men have same scar on right side of the head.
Also in sahalanthropus mission if you focus you can see skullface escaping in the jeep and going far away from the site, he never died
+venom snake sparing skullface in OKBZ zero and suddenly deciding to go along with him (when his main goal was to kill him)
+skullface sparing venom snake at every encounter which is suspicious
Skullface is how venom snake looks, venom snake is the mental version he has in his mind, the way he was programmed, but in truth he took most of the damage in the helicopter explosion so he got burned.
And so much more.
@@toasterwaffleowen4709 XOF Is FOX/Diamond dogs, cipher was the one who attacked MSF and the hospital. Not XOF.
The way "Sins of the father" starts implies that he commissioned that song specifically for when he gave that speech
This was the hardest boss fight in the game.
Sahelanthropus or watching skull face rant to someone who doesn't care?
@@cognition5133 watching skull face, mission 45 was harder than extreme sahelathropus. Although with the parasite suit armor and Fulton extractions you can absouletly cheese mission 45
@@cognition5133 I mean venom cares. He doesn't says anything, but he cares a whole lot
@@joshgroban5291 took me a few days to try cuz I was lazy and didn't want to change my equipment, i planted like 5 c4s to destroy their armor and just shot them with the double barrel
7:30 And then he moves in for the kiss....
Imagine if Solid Snake was the one on the other end of Skull Face's seat.
"I was born in a small village."
"A small village?"
"I was still a child when we were raided by soldiers, foreign soldiers."
"Foreign soldiers?"
"Torn from my elders, I was made to speak their language."
"Speak their language?"
This is so accurate. Take my like, funnyman.
"Phantom Pain?"
I could hear David Hayter already
Psycho mantis ?
Snake looks incredibly bored.
+Cyberep I guess he already heard this speech?
+Cyberep he represents the player. classic kojima 4th wall breaking.
+Cyberep
"Can I go back to fultoning shit I don't need?"
+ناگاساکتومی more like hiding a cop out from more voice acting and cover it by trying to act all deep about it.
+Cyberep some guy on a different video called him "big medic"....
God I wish he appeared more in the game. I friggin love his voice.
Corrderio
The tapes with him are ASMR
he also sounds like he hisses when he starts talking......like a snake.......
@@A-B101 Yeah, especially the one where he orders his soldiers to rape Paz
Play Dawn of War 2.
This man’s voiced wheeljack in transformers prime! 😂
I had lots of fun "directing" this scene by panning the camera around. I also think it looks better and more dramatic at night.
Dynanosaur dammit now i wanna see this at night.
@@ArtofLunatik Just playing this for the first time and it was at night. Loved the atmosphere then.
@@joshualittlewolfe8550 cool, my disc is broke so havent been able to play it as of late 😐
@@joshualittlewolfe8550 Played the cutscene for the first time at night, only for the song to end and 6:00 AM hit when we reached Serrak Power Plant. Feels so badass.
bruh same
Gordon Freeman could be in Snake's place and wouldn't make any difference in this scene. LOL
+Batman com Preparo I bet Freeman's Mind would have some interesting things to say lol
+Brian Cahill " As fried megi was explaining he's plan to me I could not help but to feel a bit tired by the soothing sound of music that was coming from the radio of the car, I slowly found myself drifting of to the land of sheeps... and in my dreams I saw what many would believe impossible... a cloud made out of pancakes.
When I came to we were still sitting in the car still going, Raidio turned off and no pancakes in sight.
It turns out that mr megi had noticed my drift to sleep but had kindly refrained from waking me so that I Morgan Freeman could continue enjoying my slumber... now awake and radio turned off he was free to continue with he's explonation to rule the world"
manny _ exe
huh funny thing is only now when I read your comment did I realized it was GORDON freeman he was talking about x)
1:32 venom's looking back at the viewer like "you understand any of this shit?"
Snake is just looking away during the scene.
"You feel it too, don't you?"
the way snake keeps looking at the camera going like "the fuck is he on about?" is killing me
I honestly really love Skull Face. His look. His plan. Even this speech...just wish there wasn't so much silence.
WHOOOOOOOOO
@@labestia6838 WHOOOOOOOOO
@@rahul-qm9fi WHOOOOOOOOOOO
Such a lust for speech
Skull face is venom snake
5:00
Snake: "So. Is this one of the top 40 hits?"
Skullface: "Oh don't even get me started on the music!"
All throughout this speech I was thinking "I can throw a grenade to the truck behind us, knock out the guards in truck and drag skull face away before the guys up front can catch us. Fulton him out then call a chopper."
I feel ya hahaha plus that whole moment of silence I was like do I do it now haha than I noticed I can't do anything but move the camera
+Layfonsin Del'Torren Literally just check your phone. You can even change the music to "maneater'
+Master Shake I tried, but sins of the father cut off my sweet music. PS3 version
+TGGeko Your going to extract *him*?
TGGeko lol funny comment but a soldier in a situation like this would be thinking somethibg along those lines
They liked the song so much that they stopped talking and just awkwardly stared at each other.
Sins of the Father playing in this scene was sooooo awkward imo, but I liked the speech
+SaiyanZ3 whole scene is awkward. Whole interaction is awkward. Every interaction in this game is awkward. 10/10 too much awkward -Ign
DADchs13 Lol, I still like the speech though
i mean seriously it look like they are having a staring contest
haoshoku hakii LOL
***** Excuse me sir, I'd appreciate civil talk on the internet!!!!!!!
You know this is not the real Big Boss when he didn't question everything he listens.
I absolutely *love* non-cinematic, one-way conversation with long, awkward pauses in between segments of Skull Face's monologue. Big Boss had the absolute best lines by far, though. It would have been really cool if you could get another 1 minute long cassette tape *after* that showcases Big Boss' thoughts.
Or, Kaz could say every line for him, and then Big Boss could say "Yeah...I guess...." again.
Nah, big boss is sitting in his chair rn. Hm hmm
Kojimas love for Orwell's 1984 really showed in MGSV.
+seanbhoy192 after all betrayals? why?
*****
youve ot a point there.
+Guybrush Threepwood What does that have to do with this scene...?
+Nison545 "This war is peace"
"War is peace" is a phrase that is splattered throughout 1984.
Guybrush Threepwood Oh, good call. Missed that line.
I like how Venom just looks at the camera like " you're in for a ride guys"
Wait... we have a cutscene in a Metal Gear Solid game were Snake DOESN'T repeat the last word of whatever the other person said but as a question? WHAT BASS-ACKWARDS WORLD IS THIS?!!
METAL GEAR?!!!
LIQUIIID?!
DEEPTHROAT?!
GRAY FOX?!!
FIDDLES!?!?!?!?!?!
You know what Kojima should've added to this scene? Skull Face should've carried a small wooden box containing two cigars; one for himself and another for Venom as an ironic "gesture of respect" (as he still thinks Venom is Big Boss himself). Both of them smoke their cigars while the song plays on the background (would've actually been badass).
And then, after the Sahelanthropus fight when Skull Face dies slowly beneath the rubble, he's surrounded by a pool of gasoline. Venom lights the unfinished stub of cigar he was given, takes a long puff and as he exhales the smoke, throws it on Skull Face who suddenly is set on fire. The man suffers the same fate when he was a child, but this time he'll die a slow and agonizing death.
And thus Venom/Big Boss finally becomes "a demon" he was always hinted to be.
shiiiiiiiit.....
Pretty fucking good
GNARLY
That would have made this scene so good.
Not bad, guess we'll see how Death Stranding turns out
"I could probably fulton ourselves right now, but that wouldn't be polite".
...So why are you wearing a Lone Ranger mask?
+Artyom Bogomaz I was wondering the same thing
+Artyom Bogomaz "No one cared who I was until I put on the mask"
+Artyom Bogomaz cover his parasite infection marks
+JazukaiX If he pulls this plan off, would you die?
+TGGeko It would be extremely painful
Fuck haters, I really like this Sins Of The Father moment. I mean, when those two, worst enemies, are watching at each other, and this THE SIIIIIIIINS NEVER DIES plays, gives me chills.
+CapitanMine Same :)
+CapitanMine Really...why would anyone hate this?
+Miyakolover Because people can't handle this beautiful art.
huskiesghost Biased society views can shun down great artists for decades if not centuries if history taught us anything
MarsShadow Skull Face's face is scary and is badly burnt, anyone in his position wouldn't want to directly look him in the eye, if anything I find it completely logical for him not feeling comfortable being there with him
It took skullface 3 minutes to remember the how the end of his speech went he must have felt so embarrassed
In this scene they foreshadow that Venom is not the real BB, the real one would be repeating everything that Skull Face says as a question
0:46 looks directly into the camera like The Office
"Can you skip this? Or is this required"
Good point: Never has there been a game where the Protagonist and Antagonist are sitting so close to each other without either actively trying to kill the other
Bad point: Venom just leaves Skullz in the dust the entire trip
we get it. you dont like english.
+Erick Pan-Cho Blame Zero.
'Also I hated my second grade grammar teacher! What a bitch...'
Damn, he got the idea for Vocal Cord Parasites when he poisoned her coffee? D:
he got a f in 101
He doesn't hate english. He hates zero, who is english as anyone can be.
Im still absorbed in my thought that bigboss didnt talk here just to ensure he got no parasites in him
Wow, wtf that makes sense
That's actually a good point, wow
That same philosopher (Emil Cioran) said this as well: "Revenge is not always sweet, once it is consummated we feel inferior to our victim." So, if Achmed (Jeff Dunham Reference) here was truly a man of literature, he would have known that if he takes revenge on Zero, it would not end well for him.
He did end up getting away with it somewhat through using the parasites to cripple zero using a fake pin badge and turn him into a vegetable relieing on life support to live.
Finally someone in this comment section actually trying to understand this scene instead of making jokes
it took me like 10mins to find a good comment
Skullface: "I was born in a small village"
Big Boss: "And how does it taste?"
I was expecting something epic from big boss at 5:03. Like he was re-adjusting himself for an amazing speech. Explaining to him that wiping out a tongue is not a solution. That nuclear weapon proliferation is not a solution. It's a perpetuation of the problem. You can justify suffering all you want. In the end, people will not leave the world be. The world will end. You are a madman. And I am a Snake waiting for the right moment to sink my teeth in. And the second the jeep stops you hear the radio saying "This is Pequod. Ready to fire on your command, Boss!" And then Big Boss yells "FIRE!" Then slow mo CQC badassery and explosions ensue. But then Skull Face pushes a button and unleashes Sahelanthropus before Snake can stop him.
Instead we get awkward stare for 3 minutes.
@BEASTFRAG435 why are we still here? After 6 years of this game. Just to suffer. Ah. So much wasted potential from this game
*venom puts a cassette into his walkman*
[♬Tupac - I just don't give a fuck♬]
"war is peace" "brave new world" this guy read the book
7:30
"You asleep or what?"
Despite the criticism shown here, I think Skull Face had plans that reflects off indigenous sufferage, making this scene very relevant & contempoary. Many tribes in rural US & indigenous communities are vocally displaying their distain over the loss of native tounge. Much less the impact it's receiving from overwhelmed economic incentives & unilateralism from English usage. Each tribe often dreams or fantasizes over some "blaze of glory" way of retaliation against governments enforcing this status quo. It touches on sociology & anthropology to the point that Skull Face is a martyr for his Hungarian roots and is acting on his blaze of glory moment. A mutagent lasts decades when fully used, so killing all those speaking English is an attempt to change that status quo. Written English would be recessed if a vector killing strain of English existed 24/7.
@Reconsider your position I'm sorry, but HOW does "autistic" fit in your comment?
It's honestly a cool idea for a villain motivation. Sadly, it comes right before he dies and pretty much only comes up right here. You don't find out any more about the man except for the briefing tapes you unlock at the end of the story missions, at which point Skullface has been dead for hours at that point and it doesn't matter much at that point.
Definitely a very good villain, only MGS can produce characters like that. Too bad his cutscenes weren’t as good as his tapes/background
nanomachines
I do like some of the ideas behind Skull Face's character. The concept of wanting to eradicate a whole language is interesting but utterly ridiculous and grandiose in it's execution, which is often the charm behind Kojima's storytelling. I think this scene would have worked a lot better if it was shortened, the song was removed, and Venom actually spoke instead of just sitting there like a plank. MGS1 had amazing conversations between Snake and his enemies so this feels like a missed opportunity to me. They must have been paying Kiefer 10 grand a line or something.
4:05 snake just broke the forth wall...he looks at the camera with intense boredom and confusion. Lol
"Get a load of this guy"
0:36
Snake:”slaps skull faces hands away”
Snake:hands off mister this body is reserved for kaz and kaz only
If I was Skull Face, I'd be REALLY wondering why the heck Venom isn't saying a darn thing.
1:25
Skullface: "a philosopher once said 'It is no nation we inhabit, but a language.'"
Venom Snake: (Looks at camera) "Sheesh! You hearing this shit too?"
It wasn't until like my 5th viewing that I realized Skull Face's vision of the future becomes Big Boss' plan for Outer Heaven. Uniting the world through war and nuclear deterrence, "a language of nukes." Now I finally understand why Skull Face's phantom is with Venom in the final cutscene. Because with Sahelanthropus, Venom (and Big Boss) will fulfill his will.
I was born in a small village. I was still a child when we're played like damn fiddles!
I like how Big Boss seem not to care one bit about Skull Face's heel promo, he's like "get over it already"
People believe he gives his speech to the wrong person but he really meant the speech for us the player cause we are Big Boss
Venom Snake: "Damn... I kind of don't care"
One of my favorite elements of MGS were the messages given to us. Words have meaning. The way we used them within ourselves and to others.
“Thats crazy but I don’t remember asking”
This scene is perfect. Skull Face believes he's talking to the real Big Boss, believes that he's explaining his grand plan to the real deal. Meanwhile, in Punished Snake's eye there is this emptiness. He's like an empty shell, a void staring back. Skull Face has no idea that his glare is for nothing, he's not talking to the true Boss, and his plans are about to fall apart not because of his rival, but because there just happened to be someone even angrier and more vengeful than him in the general area, as if he was crushed by a simple move of fate rather than having an epic downfall.
I also loved controlling the camera. MGSV is about gameplay and a variety of storytelling ideas and being able to view the staredown for yourself is awesome.
+ZerogunRivale This scene is garbage. It's absolutely disappointing that he's speaking to the fake BB, a random medic. I don't care if he's the best solider in MSF. People begin to blame Konami for this when it was obviously Kojima to blame for this horrible display of writing. Really? I want to rid the world of the English language? What would that do? Nothing. Especially when Skullface speaks English. Snake doesn't say a word, because Kojima thinks it's being edgy for Snake not to speak. Are you kidding me? Snake never says a word to Skullface? Also why not just kill him? Such a cliche villain who doesn't kill the protagonist when he has the chance. Boss nevers displays any anger in fact it seems he's not really after Skullface for revenge. So much that he doesn't even kill Skullface. If you think this is brilliant then you are easily impressed and have never played the previous metal gear games. There is such a thing as a bad opinion, and if you have one be prepared to defend it. Kojima really dropped the ball on this game.
a) If you have to insult the person you are speaking to, you aren't very good at getting your opinion across. I've played every Metal Gear game, including the MSX ones. Metal Gear Solid 3 is still my favorite, followed by MGS2.
b) Skull Face wants to wipe out English because he wants revenge against Zero. He clearly says in his speech that he sees Zero and Cipher as representative of the military force that the US government dealt out during that time. Since in Metal Gear universe Cipher is the one influencing the government, it sort of makes sense. Since Zero is his target for revenge and English is his tongue, then it's the choice for language which he wants to wipe out. Simultaneously, he feels this would stop Cipher totally and wholly since at this point, Cipher has stretched its arms into much of the US government and military.
c) I agree, it's cliche for Skull Face not to kill Snake right then and there. It was also cliche for Solidus not to kill Raiden during the torture sequence and Volgin not to kill Snake when he caught him at Grozny Grad.
d) Punished Snake never displays any emotion, but he's also this kind of being of emptiness, a fractured being who really is neither Medic nor Big Boss. He's not anybody and doesn't really have his own identity. Whether one likes the way this plays it, is of course, a matter of opinion.
+ZerogunRivale You should really fuck off with the ending
+tylerboy565 how about you just accept it that konami is the bitch that made this shit , who knows maybe kojima was already out when they were about to finish the game , its not the games fault
+ZerogunRivale I'm actually surprised that people glance over the fact that kojima is basically handing over the director seat for the camera in this scene. There is so much going on in this scene, this video doesn't do much justice in keeping it static, and I agree with others while it can be a little awkward to see them have a stare down, that's kind of the point. Skull Face is showing his "power" and venom doesn't have the words for it. The music describes vemon for you.
"Hey man you gonna say something about my evil plan?"
"...."
"I mean, it's pretty genius right? No more English! AH HA HA HA!"
"..." *checks iDroid*
"H-hey, c'mon man I spent over 9 years planning for this!"
"..."
"Say something"
"......"
"Please"
"......"
"......."
"......"
".......uh...."
*Switches on radio*
"LET YOUR WORLD FEAR US ALL!"
Fuck this scene.
+Ruby Rose *Music ends*
Snake: ...
Skufface: ...Still nothing?
Snake: *Puts NVG on and off multiple times*
Skullface: ....This is the last time i'm car pooling with you ever again...
+Ruby Rose Fuck this game. It's not even Metal Gear.
Meme Master 400 Faster Blaster He's silent even when those things aren't present.
Doesn't change the fact that the dude barely talks throughout the game.
LOL guys it's cause he's supposed to be YOU ha ha, what a great recycled twist from MGS2 eh? They could have made Venom Solidus and it would have ended great but nope.
Have an unfinished game.
I too liked this scene, but it looks like Venom just wanted to whip out the Phantom Cigar and slip into another coma :D
Big balls the entire time: 🤫🧏♂️
“Sorry I had AirPods in, I zoned out, could you repeat that?”
Skullface really spent 9 years drafting up this speech just to give it to the wrong guy
Fuck, I don't care how awkward that silent stare was, that song is so awesome, at 6:35, I even remember in my game, it was turning to morning, so when ha art started, the sun shone through the area. It was so memorable
I love this game
This has to be the most awkward cutscene in the entire video game history. 5 minutes of a guy talking on the other person who never responds during a car ride, then soul music just starts playing for a few minutes of silence.
Venom looking at the player like "you hearing this shit?"
The old Soldiers attack my village when I was a kid" origin.
+Jacob Dahl Psycho Mantis lel
+Jacob Dahl Such a cliche in Metal Gear Solid now. That along with the "I was born on the battlefield origin" But you know what, it kind've works. It shows how a persons origin can influence the way they turn out in life. Like if soldiers hadn't attacked Skullface's village, and he had a better origin he might not have become such a hateful and sadistic person in life. He might have become a good man who instead devoted his life to helping people.
God, how I hated the BB unit from MGS4
+Lewsys "SHOW ME YOUR RAGE!"
+Lewsys why
3:46 Boss: "ugh.. seriously with this guy?"
Skull Face: I will stop Zero from controlling the world with censorship
Also Skull Face: I will delete language.
Venom Snake: You fell for my trap card! Revenge Sign Language!
Skull Face: "To unite America and the entire world..."
Snake: "Who the fuck starts a conversation like that?"
Snake's like "Did I lock the front door?" "Did I leave the fridge open?" "Did I leave the stove on?"
4:22
Pass me the AUX cord.
You better not put on shit...
Giving a solid 7 min speech to the wrong dude
Skull face is a genious man, no doubt about that. He discovered the problem, but failed to respond correctly.
Well, at least we can tell where they fired Kojima.
+BloodPlusPwn As if Kojima can do no wrong. Face it he dropped the ball with the story in this game. You know it was him especially since he has his name plastered all over the game credits before and after every mission. Clearly he is taking credit for all the writing. Not Konami, which is to blame for many things but not for the mediocre story Kojima wrote.
That's a lot of stuff I never said? I was just making a joke. Of course Kojima dropped the ball. He reached way out of him area of expertise and delivered a subpar game as a result.
Glad some people realize that he might blew this project giben the fact he had 5-7 years developing it.
james roe That's exactly what I was saying.
+Fukou da
And decided to rush a game that clearly needed more time in development to market.
I just looked up "robin hood ahh skeleton yapping to a guy"
Skullface turned out to be such a derpy villian
+Assassino275 Derp-Face
+eagles980 such a list for stfu
+Jimmy Pegg Wow nice comment! Just kidding, you fail.
+Assassino275
More a mastermind than a skilful, actual dangerous villain.
He was a pretty good idea for a villain. It's just that didn't execute that idea very well.
Proof that giving your character unreasonably severe autism can destroy any and all dramatic tension.
Funfact but did you know that Skull Face was originally going to be named Scar Face? And that James did all his lines for the game in under an hour?
I found that out and thought I share while we all wait for the jeep to reach it’s destination… also one time I was replaying this mission, Skull Face got through the whole speech without that awkward silence moment.
I don’t know how it happened but he said everything in time that when we reached the destination he was finally done with his speech.
The mad man wants to delete english from the world, i respect that. Misunderstood villain.
true. think about it for a second. what is the source of amerikkka's power? their language. whitout their language they could never communicate their oppresive ideas and evil rule.
Bruh both venom and skillface are same person remeber fight club ?
Snake isn't even paying atenttion
I'm four years late but
That's because its the wrong Snake
I feel like this was a missed moment for some comedic campy interaction, keep in the speech but at one point just have him change gears.
"Are we there yet?"
"Are you Listening to me? Take out those damn Ear-buds I am talking to you!"
"Sir I need the restroom." "You should have gone before we left!"