I've been to China and Myanmar and Vietnam, where a lot of these fakes are made and I've spoken to them about how they get them so accurate. Their response was "we watch how to spot fakes Rolex videos on TH-cam"
@@rimtasvilnietis2991 At that point I'd argue, are you doing anything wrong? If some guys in China with minimal tools can do the same a global mega company and make a 1:1 replica for 10% of the price or less. It's kinda fair game.
@@rimtasvilnietis2991 Very true, I bought a winner automatic watch for work. It's very accurate when on my wrist and extremely durable for a watch of it's pricing, which was 20 on Amazon and I paid 8 quid on eBay. I can't hate on Chinese quality because whilst it's not quite as good as my 70s citizen Day/date 21 Jewel and not even close to my longies 1970s limited edition record divers watch. It is getting there and it's honestly not a bad watch for low money. I'm not against buying more Chinese watches, because they do offer a decent level of quality and they will get to swiss standard one day. The Chinese are nailing it there days, and if they can beat a Rolex or even get close, fair play to them.
@@rimtasvilnietis2991 it won't happen, never, why you might ask well it's a known fact that factories fix 1 issue and create another one so they can fix that one in a few months and add a 50 dollar to the price and repeat
I hate it when people buy replicas, thinking they are original, and end up losing their money. Thats why mega-clone sellers like Ziarex need to be stopped.
Nah if i wanted to buy these super replicas because you can't get a good watch which even a fairly noname brand for the price which is good or even avaliable like timex or citizen or swiss all of their new watches are these childish gender bended horseshłt eco catastrophes that needs bluetooth to set them time and they are awful at least these fake wacthes copy a very good mechanisms which actually better than modern watches you cna get for the same price and hese looks good i wouldn't mind if no rolex or any luxury branding wouldn't even be on it.
Curious, do you feel the same when the CCP steals the plans for high-tech products and just al of a sudden there's a copy of Rolls-Royce jet engine. The US, EU and the Swiss opened up the world to China, so this is just one facet of that plan. You have to like it or lump it (or vote the right way so that the world can shun Chinese products altogether).
We need to stop criminals like Ziarex from selling mega-clone replica watches because selling mega-clone replicas with the same serial number as the original watch is illegal.
So you don't care about the movement of a mechanical watch then? Cos that's the only way that analogy works. The cloned watches don't have any of the R&D, engineering or technology in the movement. Lab grown diamonds are literally identical to the natural ones.
@@eurekarx2048here’s the thing a rolex is not more valuable because of the manufacturer, it is more valuable because of what people are willing to pay for them. We don’t even need to talk about fakes, why is a Daytona more expensive than the Omega Speedmaster? While the Rolex is slightly better made than the Omega, it is not 10k dollars nicer… well it’s because rich people think that Hollywood is cooler than science. They will pay up to 17 million dollars for Paul Newmans Daytona, but only 250k for speedmaster, one flown to space. Which drives the point, for rich people today Rolex has always been cool, a status symbol. All their hero’s and cool dudes wore one. So they will pay more for them, to be one of them. Their money is stored in a semi-stable place, and they have a heirloom for generations. They will always have value, and it’s too popular to be forgotten like the pocket watch. When the fake comes out with a product, that is 99% the real one for 99% of the problem, it still doesn’t matter, it won’t hold its price, and it will be a regular item, not something that could be consider an investment on itself.
@@qwertpoiuy430 well you are not wrong, that's what makes the prices absurd, it's thorough perceive value and generational marketing. Make something exclusive or limited and you be able to sell at exorbitant prices
You actually miss the point entirely. Producers of fake/clone watches do not have the same quality controls in place, the staff are not qualified or experienced watch builders ,they do not use premium components and the materials used will be of the lowest quality to produce the biggest profit margins. All legitimate companies employ qualified experienced staff, they have strict quality controls in place and will use high quality components and materials , that is what you are paying for. I have bought cheap binoculars made in China unbranded, I also have a pair of branded made China high quality binoculars , the difference is highly noticeable.
I have a real Rolex, and when I got mine, prices were reasonable. But considering the absurdity of pricing now and the replicas getting to the point where jewelers can't tell the difference, it's almost stupid to buy authentic anymore.
As long as the fake is sold as a replica for $1000 instead of as an original for $30.000, I think you’d be getting an amazing deal compared to the real Rolex
@HarryHewitt-lh8xx I have 3 Omegas, 2 speedmasters and a seamaster. I know they are real because I sell them on ebay and anything over 1500 has to be sent to ebays authenticator before it goes to the customer. Also the chronograph second hand on one of my speedys fell off and it cost me £600 to get it repaired by Omega. I only paid £1000 to buy the thing in the first place so i was not happy but they refurbished it and it now has a 2 year warrant. I will sell it for £2000. its a lot of watch for the money
@HarryHewitt-lh8xx Agreed. Show me where you can get decent used Omegas or Roli's for $2K, agent19? If anything used Roli's are more expensive than new, depending on the model.
To be fair and accurate, the replica is literally matching the craftmanship, so it is worth 700, easily. From the movement to the brushed steel. The problem with watches, is turnover rate. A rolex is in no way shape or form worth a full $10k, it takes about 200-350$ to make one (estimated), you're paying for the name and exclusivity, which again, makes you a dumb dumb. All the materials on the replica, are the same. You're still in an exclusive club keep in mind, no one I know, even wears watches that much, let alone anything more than a couple hundred.
Why? It is still a fake and you would know it. It says more about you personally than anything else. You can pretend to be a rich person, but at the end of the day you still get to go home to your one bedroom apartment in your Civic. You don't get to join our club no matter how much you pretend.
Ignoring the fact that it's a replica, it's actually a good quality watch, presumably for a reasonable price. If they produced their own original designs with this level of quality, they could earn themselves a respectable reputation.
however, by producing these replicas, they are earning themselves a respectable amount of money. nobody would buy their original designs, because they don't have 'history' and 'prestige' and because they... aren't from central-western europe. people buy watches as status symbols, so that's what gets produced in this free-er market without artificially limited supply.
Actually it is ...ability to hold value...so clearly you arent a person who washes in the beauty of refinement ...hmmm shameful ....you don't deserve to be on this channel
@@fritzdaddy-135mmgetstagger4 what ability to hold value for item worth $700? Beauty of refinement "with magnifying glass" you miss there. Let the owner of the channel decide who deserve and who not.
about the laser etched crown, i believe the laser etching uses the depth of the crystal, so not all “dots” are on the same horizontal plane... the fake looks like it uses a simple etching, which, would make this tell 8/8... all in all a fantastic video! It really shows how much work you put into this! Keep up the amazing work!
Yes this is correct. It's harder to replicate something that has been designed to be 'imperfect'. If the laser etched crown looks perfect then the watch, or at least the crystal, is probably a fake.
Yup, that's it. Rolex's etching is like a tiny version of those 3-D portraits etched inside crystals, the kind you can buy at kiosks in shopping malls.
Yup, on the original Rolex, the etched crown looks perfect when viewed perpendicular from above but from an angle the etched dots looks skewed due to the technique described above.
Might be intentional, so they have something to market later. As far as I heard, it's the same with cameras, feature get added and removed to have something new every year.
@@nintendokings Just because a business is doing something illegal doesn't necessaryly negates a long term plan. Ever heard about organized crime? And making these fakes and distributing these clearly requires a complex organisation :D
@@BadeniaFilme yes but when you say they’re holding back enhancements: you can only do that if you have a monopoly on the product. It makes no sense. There are hundreds of companies making fakes and even plenty making these kind of super-fakes. Someone else in China can improve them, so it makes no sense to hold back improvements as a long-term release strategy
The etched crown is meant to look right only when the crystal is perfectly in front of you, because it's laser etched on 3 different depths of the crystal. It's an anti-counterfeit measure as the fakes don't use 3d laser etching. So if the crown always looks right, it's acutally a bad thing and a huge tell.
Wow, we've actually entered the territory of "if it looks good from all angles then it's a fake". I get that it works as a security feature but at what point are we making the watch less attractive just to hinder counterfitters? Isn't that a little backwards? Wouldn't I rather have the fake then?
@@willfrank961 Well, it's not something that jumps out at you anyway. It's almost invisible unless one deliberately looks for it, so there's no adverse impact on the attractiveness of the watch.
Didn't know that, and I thought I was pretty up on my Rolexes.....now I'm going to be hunting down the teeeeeny crowns after work. I thought my Milgauss was perfectly shaped, but then again I only looked at it head on, never looked at my GMT or YachtMaster.
On MSRP the rolex is not overpriced. you have materials, craftsmanship, brand recognition, history, durability, accuracy etc. as for grey market prices it's just economics. People want the product and there is a scarcity of it. Yes you can argue it's a fake scarcity and rolex could produce more watches but that doesn't matter. People want it and there's not enough offer so the price goes up like crazy.
@@VictorDude98 if history and brand recognition holds no value why don't just buy a casio? why is rolex one of the most sought after watch brands in the world? so you want the watch for the price of its production? lel. are you serious? also its not just functions and materials that make a watch priceworthy. if that was the case any tag heur chrono would be more valuable e.g than a omega diver. if that was the case a quartz watch would always be more valuable than a mechanical one.
@@VulgarRage when you can buy something for a 20th of the price that's only distinguishable from the original by an expert with a macro lens then IMHO it's not just overpriced it's taking the p*ss!! Clearly we the consumers are happy to pay that huge premium for the Brand recognition and history though, fair enough. To each their own - all watches are great, except fakes.
@@stevefox8605 sure. But the fakes have "value" because theres a brand created over 100 years ago that built recognition, history and perceived value in the eyes of the consumer. The fake market only exists because of the gens. The fakes take their value indirectly from the original brands. You have people willing to pay for a fake just to pretend they have the gen. That's how valuable brand recognition and history have. If people just wanted a better price worthy watch then they would just buy a seiko. and btw we are forgetting than a luxury watch if properly maintained will last you a life time and hold value. a fake will be gone after some time and always be worthless.
11:20 I wouldn't say the original's laser etched crown is poorer quality than the fake's - it's actually the opposite. The laser dots in the original crown are placed at different depths of the crystal, so the crown will look perfect when viewed directly from above, but appear "irregular" when viewed from an angle. The comparison at 11:20 actually demonstrates how this feature can be used to identify a fake!
The reason the crown looks like this on the original is because of the viewing angle. Each dot that composes the crown is lasered at a different depth, so it looks good from the top but strange from the side. It is very hard to replicate this and the fake has all dots of the same depth.
This is exactly what I suspected. So Rolex is actually using a technique where the dots are burned inside the crystal, similar to how they do those 3D acrylic engravings. Except they are doing it in a crazy thin and much harder to burn material, which is insane. And it's lasered at different depths on purpose so that only 1 angle shows the correct crown (I'm guessing you have to look perpendicular to the crystal). That lasering machine must cost a fortune. The fake is probably just engraved on the surface. Rolex is in a position where it needs to employ anti-fakery proof marks similar to banknotes 😂
@@drpepper3838 Ex Hublot employee speaking. They are made in Switzerland. Forget the "1000 to make". Nothing is done for a thousand bucks there with exception maybe of buying groceries. The watches are made by highly trained and skilled workers, paid 6'000-8'000$ per worker. The steel mill refining the metals for Rolex will cost good $$$. The building they are made in cost a fortune in running fees. The CNC machines and quality control robots will cost another fortune and an army of automaticians. There is a chairboard and many commanding employees, that will cost even more than the skilled employees I mentionned before. And then you must offer a network of salesmens/womens, return policies and warranties. This all adds costs. It's easy for a chinese to come and offer a product for a fraction of all this. Everything is cheaper there and they have no service to offer and cheap workforce.
@@Barelo not really but that’s your opinion. I feel like people are brainwashed into spending there money to keep them from being wealthy. Prices of resale on shoes and watches “collectibles” that do nothing for you add no value you to your life is so expensive. But that’s my opinion.
@@Barelo Actually spending 15k on a real one is what sucks. I can have a lot better time spending 15K elsewhere. Not to mention when inevitably i get robbed, I'll have no qualms about handing the fake watch over. People have been murdered for their Rolex's.
Supporting crime is never an option. It makes society rot. Normally, peoples don't realize that the rotting will spread through their enabling mindset, but I'm sure you know places where the law is only just a concept.
Essentialy Jenni you could be having dinner with someone wearing the replica and you would never know, thus making the watch a success for the buyer because anyone who buys an expensive watch is showing it off along with one's enjoyment!
But they don't cost as much as they do because they are $20k well made. For the most part you are paying for the name and when you know it's not real then it kinda loses the point.
You think Rolex care? Also the reason the Daytona is 30,000 is because of hype. It doesnt retail for that. Rolex are a luxury watch brand. If they start selling their watches for 3k than anyone can afford one (Anyone with a job in a 1st world country). Then its not luxury. Its a well known fact luxury brands purposely inflate their prices so poor people can't afford them.
If you could own a replica Lamborghini for 30,000 $ and it was just as fast , had the same horse power , same built quality and only the dealership could tell that it was not real , would you buy one ? That’s the real question
Are you referring to the 3/4 ton 4x4 turbo-diesel light trucks? even if the dealers can tell the difference the buyers are capable of deluding themelves that they have the ultimate sporting vehicle
I was at a watch get together pre COVID, where a watchmaker had such an accurate replica, that he was able to show how it would accept actual Rolex movement parts without issue and that it was almost impossible to tell the difference between them.
I genuinely don't think this will ever be the case. There will always be a gap between the genuine watches and replicas due to the huge investment in tooling and skilled watchmakers Rolex have. You just can't replicate that when you're churning out replicas for a few hundred dollars a piece.
@@MarkMilotay good Rolex and Omega replicas have been able to accept genuine movements and parts for years, this isn't anything new. The point is, Rolex and Omega have made it so that these parts can only be sourced directly through them now, which has meant that they are now getting very difficult and expensive to source via any other means. So yes, you could buy a replica Sub for instance, and then buy a genuine movement for it, but you'd end up with a very very expensive replica that Rolex would take off you if it ever went in for a service. So what would be the point? OK so you don't go down the route of putting a genuine movement in, because it's too expensive. So you get a genuine dial, hands, stem, crown, sapphire. That's still a huge investment into a replica watch that anyone could tell was fake within 2 seconds as soon as the case back comes off. Again... What's the point?
If you can buy it for $1k, let's say the whole Walker buys it for $800, and that's very generous, and the maker would be making say 40% margin, then they're making around $320. So it costs them $480 to make it. There's no way your producing a watch in Switzerland for $480. Not a chance.
@@littlejackalo5326 lol wtf are you even saying! obviously you do. The main expense on Rolex" side is innovation and marketing. The pure material cost is negligable, and the watch makers dont make 10k a month trust me.
Demand is insane for these watches, they could make 20 times more and still not have any in an AD window. At the end of the day, Rolex do make nearly a million watches a year. Unfortunately demand for them is a whole lot more than this figure.
Whether Rolex is to blame or not it doesn’t give anyone the right to infringe on their intellectual properties, copyrights and/or patents. If you want to build a watch then fine. But put your own name on it.
@@briansimer4311 totally agree. Rolex have spent 116 years growing their brand. If you want a cheaper watch, there are so many other great brands that you can choose from. Why wear a replica? Fake watch, fake person.
@@gurdeeps they refuse to sell it? So what exactly do you think is happening? You think AD's have a load of them stuck in their safes? Or you think Rolex are selling directly to grey market? What exactly is it you think is happening?
I was a Rolex owner for 19 years - Submariner non-date 14060M. After the initial thrill wore off (about a year in) I went back to wearing the other watches in my collection (mainly Oris) with the Sub as mainly a special occasion/show off piece. That didn't make any sense as I bought it as a go anywhere, do anything tool watch. It took a while to sink in but I finally admitted the truth that I was more concerned with being a Rolex owner than a Rolex wearer. Finally I sold it and bought an Oris Diver 65 as I knew I would be wearing that thing far more often. Dumping the Rolex for something better looking was a truly liberating experience. It's great to be a watch lover again.
That was very well said! "more concerned with being a Rolex owner than a Rolex wearer" - being more concered with owning a status symbol rather than wearing a great handmade and mechanical masterpiece of a watch is a sad reality for many people. Thank you for sharing your wholesome story
I really wouldn’t want to be branded as a rich guy showing off his wealth, which really is what being a rolex owner is at the end of the day. I understand why people like watch, but the status thing, I don’t get at all.
I have 1 watch. It tells the time above and underwater to 50m. What do I need another one for? Cost £150 and it never misses a beat. Had it 10 years. Why the f%^k would I pay €30,000 for something that does exactly the same - unless I was brain dead. Its JUST A WATCH THAT TELLS TIME.
The "thirty thousand dollar mistake" is when you pay Rolex 30 grand for a watch that is virtually indistinguishable from one that costs only $1000 to make. (There's a sucker born every minute...)
@@philmann3476 it depends. Manufacturing costs are very low in general. Your car, your house, your shoes…you pay at least 10 times the production cost. Looking only at production costs would take you to not buy anything
@@frankjoy2455 Maybe, except that the "faker" here apparently can produce an exact duplicate watch and profitably sell it for $1000, which already takes into account the value beyond mere production cost. If they can do it at a $1000 retail price point, my strong suspicion is that it costs Rolex even LESS to make one of their watches than it costs whoever makes this fake. Which raises the question of what if anything, beyond admitted prestige, are you getting for the additional $29K? The answer may indeed be that you are simply paying for the name, which, if it makes you happy, is your choice.
@@philmann3476 Exactly. I had a rolex, someone robbed it from my locker. Stupid me for keeping a rolex in a gym locker. Since then I decided I would never have an expensive watch any more. I have replicas of patek philipe, iwc and hublot and I al happy with them. I love the design and the accuracy of the replica. And I don’t judge myself for wearing replicas. Judging yourself for things you do is simply stupid
The laser crowns are meant to look at a perpendicular angle to see the crown shape, rather than a tilted angle. The original one also used a different laser depth for the crown execution which I think the forgers are unlikely to be able to master this technique yet.
bravo...this is the best video ever...usually people show quickly the watch and say "you see here the différents??"but you go really near and slow to things and explain.that is amazing.
Jenni, the difference between the authentic and fake laser etched crowns in this comoarison is that the authentic etching places the dots that make up the crown at alternating depths in the crystal, which adds complexity and makes the crown look odd and sloppy when viewed at an angle other than "en face." The dots on the counterfeit look "cleaner" at an angle because they are all applied in the same plane/same depth, which tells you it is not genuine.
I have a fake and I tell people it’s fake. They’re more amazed at how perfect the fake is rather than disappointed that they’re not in the presence of a genuine Rolex 😂
Well, Jenni, when the Chinese learn about the free-sprung balance with its micro stella adjustment screws then Rolex should start to worry. The Chinese are able to clone the 6490 series of movements with a screw balance so it's only a matter of time. It rather brings home a point that when purchasing a Rolex a great portion goes to recover costs in marketing which is something Rolex is very good at. Thank you for a great presentation.
China only invented the ball point pen a couple years ago so wouldn't worry, it was a huge deal in china took them 70+ years of buying billions of ballpoint pens/ballpoints from BIC and others. They couldn't make the little ballpoints in the tip so small.
@@rtoma1974 LOL Your argument is invalid/ and has nothing to do with what i said. How is a chinese company buying volvo what has that got to do with anything. They still cant invent anything themselves
Got a panda daytona from chrono select, and let me assure you, its spoton! The video didnt capture the overall craftsmanship. It truly replicates the authentic experience.
'Genuine Replica'! I was walking through a night market in Hangzhou a few years back and had the vendor shouting out 'Genuine Replica' to me as I walked by. Took me a second to think what he had said, then I couldn't stop giggling about it.
Ok, where do you get one? That Jenni missed to tell us, just the original for 30k we know, very expensive, but the marvelously done replica? Where, and how much? 1k?
I wonder how many of these differences get lost from manufacturers year to year. I mean Rolex process also changes so comparing a 2 authentic few years apart will likely show difference as well
@@wingracer1614 Word. I took an original Bulova Stars and Stripes box and everything, to a pawn shop to get a price just in case recession hits harder, and they were doing me the Pawn Stars routine of "I can give you $100 and I'm taking a risk here". So, pawning a fake Rolex won't make you rich; they don't lose LOL
This is just deterring people from buying watches from big name brands. It's getting scarier day by day. I've also slightly fallen in love with the fake. I hate this.
It's really not. Demand for Rolex is the highest its ever been, hence why they are now impossible to get from AD's unless you've got serious history with them.
If anything the ridiculous demand and overinflated grey market prices are forcing more people in to the replica market. Even the right replicas are gaining value over time.
there´s probably a poor soul that bougth a fake rolex for over 10k out there, and its rocking his wrist and he and no one will every tell that´t actually a fake
So, if replica costs 1000 $ and original 30 000 $ and you can't tell which is which then original manufacturer is selling "OOORRRIGINAAALLL BRRRAAANNNDDDD🤪" to you for 29 000 $!!!!!!!
I understood that the laser-etched crown in the crystal is multi-level on an authenticate Rolex. This shows the crown "perfectly" from straight-on and "broken" when viewed from the side because of purposeful parallax.
I totally agree. I own a panda and it is really hard to see the LEC on a straight up angle given the dial is white. However, if you study very closely using a 15x or 20x loupe, you will notice the LEC on the Daytona is infact different from the other Rolex in that the bottom egg-shape circle has double parallel line instead of single line hence will distort even more if not view dead straight from the top. To my surprised, so far no one or any watch TH-camrs notices or even mention this.
But they will notice you are working at mcdonalds and have supositions about your watch, but they will never tell, actually opening the back case would make them think the watch is indeed original
Not neceserily. Some very talented artist can copy a painting perfectly, but the original will remain the more valuable because of the age and history.
I loved this video and I'm excited to watch more. There is something confusing, however, about how you present the fake vs. the original. The moving camera is distracting. Plus, your angles from the fake vs. original are different from each other. You show the fake and then the original but it's hard to compare because the fake is no longer on the screen. I would much rather see still photographs framed and cropped exactly the same for both the fake vs. the original. Keep the fake vs. original side-by-side on the screen (like at 9:38) so we can see them next to each other. And on the photos use arrow to point to the areas you're talking about. Sharp, detailed photos are better and less distracting than these sometimes out of focus images you're showing here. Put the camera on a tripod and shoot a f16 for insanely detailed and clear shots. Just an idea. I hope you're not offended.
But the owner of those watches will not look just as good. If you want a watch, you can buy a lot for 700 Euro. Yes, it won't be luxury, the brand will be not as known, but it will be a genuine thing, not just a parody of the genuine.
@@darkokovac993 Kinda of missing the pt and top reason for luxury watches. Status. A fake rolex that no one can recognize vs a 700 real whatever is apples and oranges
I think the intended message here is: both Rolexes lose (the fake is immoral and the original is a rip-off). And the silent winner is: the Casio on her wrist (original and inexpensive).
@@deathrager2404 Just tried to make sense out of this video. Ok, maybe she means: "I really don't care which watch you buy, fake or real, just give me some clicks and make me and my sponsor happy, lol"
@@deathrager2404 really ... rolex looks like shit according to the price... can a rolex get the look of CASIO MUDMASTER , GULFMASTER OR G SQUAD ..... U SAY THEY LOOK SHIT .... FUNNY GUY .... CASIO HAS THE BEST TECHNOLOGY IN THE WORLD , THE MOST ACCURATE WATCHES not like those inaccurate automatic shits ....... and also casio gives their customers the best price , that's how they have their reputation " the best for the lowest price " ...casio gives the most accurate , toughest , 200m wr , atomic time keeping , GPS , heart rate sensor for just $400 .... and that's how a real manufacturer should be .... not giving a shit for $10k
@@100mcreations6 i would never buy a rolex. rather buy a casio and pimp it out. but to be honest, who the fuck evne uses watches nowadays? are we back in the 90s bro? everyone got phones. lmao or cars with time. dont need a fuckin watch its a pure waste of money.
I find it quite interesting that several aspects of the fake, as shown in this video do in fact look better than on the actual Rolex. Even the red writing "ROLEX" is more sharply defined and is therefore more precise appearing and easier to read from a few feet back, on the fake. Frankly I cannot afford either!
People need to understand that fake ones are good replicas, but that shoot the price up. If you want a fake one that is visible at the 1st look then price is affordable, otherwise good fake one it cost money. So, as we say in the US you can buy brand new T-shirt for $5, but you can buy as well for $300.
dude it's really not that hard, take five minutes to search up "fake Rolex" and you'll be met with plenty of examples of high-end replicas that are made in Switzerland etc. it's just that you're going to be shopping through a very shady and illegal website obviously
Can I suggest for these types of videos, always be consistent when putting them side by side. If you start with the fake on the right then keep the fake on the right throughout the video.
In fact this proves : 1 given the quality and low price of those replicas this shows clearly that Rolex is not a great watchmaker. Rolex just admitted recently that scarcity was not a strategy but a production issue...may be Rolex could then go to see the clone makers and learn a bit of engineering from them... 2 that Rolex scarcity, purposeful or not, is basically pushing customers who would have probably bought the real one at the public price if it was available at the local AD and not through this opaque waiting list process, to buy a fake as the real one is anyway not available...
It does not prove anything, these genius guys doing replicas can build any watch. They do the same with Patek Philippe or Audemars Piguet. They focus on these brands because they are super desired, not because it's easy to copy
They now make a $1200 replica/fake that has solved all of these issues. They come from the Noob factory. I am sure I'm not the only one to think this, but if you need to look at a watch at this level of detail to tell if it is fake or not then what is the point of the genuine item? The prices are highly inflated. The movements are ages old and developed very little from 40-50 years ago.
From what I've heard, the Rolex crown on the crystal "looks" worse than the clone but its because Rolex made the marks at different depths in the crystal. Unlike the clone that just has it all at the same depth.
That's the end of my watch hobby (which lasted for about three weeks). I would have no chance of spotting those minor details. I can see that the comments section is flooded with people advertising fake watch retailers. This market is ruined. It's kinda sad. Anyway, thanks for the video.
Some great information thanks! Personally I think the lume and numeral marker, as shown at 7:39 look better on the fake. The rehaut is so different, that is the first thing I would look for. Also, if you can see the movement the word "DAYTONA" font is fatter on the fake, but of course you would need a real one next to it in order to notice the difference. I would guess not all fakes would have the same anomolies, so whilst one clue might be correct, another may not be. Best to buy a fake from an authorized fake dealer!
The authentic rehaut has the letters aligned with the second markers on the dial - that's probably the easiest tell to spot (at least for this particular fake ... the latest counterfeits presumably have attended to that detail by now.
Sure, no waiting list and $32k for a watch that retails for nearly half that. Shame on you Rolex for creating situations where your watches are only available in the secondary market where places like this rape you on the price. How does this happen? Tons of supply but only at outrageously inflated prices in the secondary market.
While Rolex is definitely partly to blame, I think the whole thing is now a self-fulfilling prophecy now. Secondary Dealers buyout all the stock (or their sources buy out all the stock), and they put for sale at inflated prices. That's why in Asia, there are actually a ton of stores that carry lots of Daytonas, but the list price is already up there.
FYI, the laser engraved on the original is supposed to be like that because the dots are lasered onto different layers of the saphire glass, and will only be aligned if looked at from above
It's probably a noob v3. It's explicitly illegal for me to guide you to how you might purchase a replica watch in my country. It's not illegal for me to use my knowledge in the field to identify what Chinese Factory (noob) made which version (v3) of a replica watch.
@@komali2 Even though many watch TH-camrs compare replica watches to the real things, they are in affect promoting people to go hunt for replica watches. Adrian has done the same... Although I don't buy replica's, watching Jenni's and Adrian's - if I was short on funds - would make me want to buy the replica.
@@marshmallow21 I mean like i said somewhere else, replica watches represent the greatest value in watch buying right now. This daytona is a 3 subdial functioning mechanical chrono with sapphire crystal and ceramic bezel for about 700$. Rip off the rolex logo and that's still a pretty strong argument for the watch. I happen to know that these generally run from factory at about +.33 sec per day, to boot. The only problem is they're illegal to purchase in most countries. I really wish factories like NOOB would apply their skills in creating homages or just their own designs. And I say that as someone that really doesn't get along with modern IP law.
@@mattonthewater Rolex started using chromalight early 2000, before that they used superluminova & before that Luminova before that tritium, i am told?
I believe the engraved crown looks "worse" on the real Rolex is because it's engraved at different levels in the crystal. The fake is all on the same level so it looks sharper.
That's why I'd rather save money and get a Seiko "Daytona", Bulova Lunar Pilot or other excellent homage watch. Not only can you get multiple watches for the money, but you don't risk blowing a fortune on a fake.
Actually you won’t get this model rep now because the rep factory got busted. But in 3-6 months a new factory will produce the new ‘N*** V*’ (model of this rep) - now I wouldn’t tell you the model because then it lowers my chance of getting it 😁
This entire thing really makes you wonder what the point of an ultra high end watch is. When quartz first came out, the high end watch makers embraced it since it was objectively better. But as the cost of making a quartz watch started to crash, everyone realized that this would put high end watch makers out of business. Companies like Rolex pointed out that even though their movements were old fashioned, they were also works of art that were built by skilled craftsmen. Now they can mass produce movements that are just as good as the hand built ones. How long will it be before they can mass produce a watch that is basically identical to the real one? Will that finally put companies like Rolex out of business?
Seiko is already there - but taking advantage of the absurd pricing of Rolex, AP, and Omega watches. I bet they could sell a Grand Seiko for $900 and still turn a nifty profit.
Luxury goods are not about cost of manufacture. Rolex watches sell for ridiculous money not because the technology, craftsmanship or quality is worth it. They sell because it is a statement: I have enough money and enough connections to own one. It is your business card in the world of rich.
@@senorigor9439 The laws of supply and demand simply don't apply to the rich, because they have so much money that there's no need to evaluate the tradeoff. You and I have to weigh the value (to us) of all the other things we could do with $80,000 before we plunk it down on a watch, whereas the rich don't have to give up anything: there's always another $80,000 (and another and another and another...) to buy all the other stuff they want.
Rolex is selling 2 million watches per year and I don't even know if that includes Tudor. There are so many people using cheap debt (due to low interest rates) to buy up Rolex watches as an investment or to scalp. Once rates go higher and a recession hits, demand will evaporate and the millions of Rolex watches that are selling will start to pile up at dealers across the world. The price is going to crash just like with stocks, crypto and other speculative assets. It's just a matter of time.
@@LigerSupremacy Yep: using cheap money to keep the market (and the value of their inventory) propped up. It's unsustainable, and the crash will be spectacular when they all rush for the exits at once. I'll bet the watches are already trading hands at far less than "market" price (at prices the dealers don't want the public to know about.)
Very informative and well done video Jenni!! Perfect example of why Rolex should start equipping their watches with a exhibition back. Only the Milgauss Submariner and Explorer lines should stay with a solid case back.
So if somebody can make the watch for under $1,000 and it's almost exactly as the other one; maybe the $30,000 watch is extremely overpriced.. food for thought
I watched this video with my wife and she loved the watch you are wearing. When I told her it was a Casio she said "oh, never mind then..." Now I can't convince her about how wrong she is to think that.
I would love to own a Rolex, and other respected brands, but right now I am wearing a $23 Casio dress watch I bought off of Amazon. I don't have to worry about it being fake, or being broken. That's the fun of Casio. They are good cheap beater watches that tell time for super low prices. Oh yea, google "rich people who wear casio watches" and you will have a good laugh.
I'm confused....watch channels keep showing these replicas...how good they are getting...but then say...don't buy these! Seems almost like an ad for these replicas
@@nguyenanhdung8139 You think they went to all this trouble to produce a nearly identical replica and then didn't waterproof it enough to hold up to a shower? Or do you think the (same) stainless steel bracelet is going to somehow discolor your skin? I don't understand what you're trying to say.
@@nguyenanhdung8139 you be surprised ..most probably the genuine one will end braking ..I have seen it before.Overpriced watches is just a matter of showing off the money.Nothing can justify the price of that watch ..nothing besides vanity !
@@nguyenanhdung8139 really , I'm wearing a $3 Rolex submariner fake watch. Come to our country you'll find watches from $0.5 ... also I'm swimming with my $3 watch for more than 6 months and I had no battery change or nothing ... the watch is still working ....
I have the Swiss version SeaDweller, exactly 1-1 replica. Even Rolex can't tell the difference, unless opened . £1300 You have the cheap $700 version, try the $1800 Swiss made version.
Latest “fake” subs are made with OEM CNC. Go knock yourself out trying to find “flaws”. Dealers are admitting ‘clones’ are basically nearing complete assimilation.
Usually the differences can only be found in the polishing of the internals a few layers in. That's certainly not something a dealer would do to authenticate a watch. A worn watch would be really really hard to distinguish.
Yeah...we are in the same situation as "fake" diamonds. Fake diamonds are now so good that the "real" diamond industry wants the diamonds to be looked under an "electron" microscope to identify the "real" ones.
@@gurdeeps what fake diamonds you talkin about? moisanites? or lab diamonds? because lab diamonds are not fake or ''fake'' they re genuine. got me thinkin about spending money on labgems instead of mined blooddiamonds.
@@deathrager2404 Exactly my point. I was referring to artificial/lab diamonds. And yes I know they are real but the diamond industry still wants to differentiate them from the "real" ones.
@@gurdeeps my bad i didnt get that, because alot of people actually blindly follow whatever these filthy elites say. about everything. in terms of diamonds they need to stop supporting these mined diamonds. they re blood diamonds. end of story. people are fuckin dumb. i tend to get quite some lab gems in a few as there is a lab in belgium and i live in the netherlands.
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I've been to China and Myanmar and Vietnam, where a lot of these fakes are made and I've spoken to them about how they get them so accurate. Their response was "we watch how to spot fakes Rolex videos on TH-cam"
Give chinese guys another 3 years and it will be perfect replica 1:1
@@rimtasvilnietis2991 At that point I'd argue, are you doing anything wrong? If some guys in China with minimal tools can do the same a global mega company and make a 1:1 replica for 10% of the price or less. It's kinda fair game.
Ha ha, yes sure.
@@rimtasvilnietis2991 Very true, I bought a winner automatic watch for work. It's very accurate when on my wrist and extremely durable for a watch of it's pricing, which was 20 on Amazon and I paid 8 quid on eBay. I can't hate on Chinese quality because whilst it's not quite as good as my 70s citizen Day/date 21 Jewel and not even close to my longies 1970s limited edition record divers watch. It is getting there and it's honestly not a bad watch for low money. I'm not against buying more Chinese watches, because they do offer a decent level of quality and they will get to swiss standard one day.
The Chinese are nailing it there days, and if they can beat a Rolex or even get close, fair play to them.
@@rimtasvilnietis2991 it won't happen, never, why you might ask well it's a known fact that factories fix 1 issue and create another one so they can fix that one in a few months and add a 50 dollar to the price and repeat
I hate it when people buy replicas, thinking they are original, and end up losing their money. Thats why mega-clone sellers like Ziarex need to be stopped.
Nah if i wanted to buy these super replicas because you can't get a good watch which even a fairly noname brand for the price which is good or even avaliable like timex or citizen or swiss all of their new watches are these childish gender bended horseshłt eco catastrophes that needs bluetooth to set them time and they are awful at least these fake wacthes copy a very good mechanisms which actually better than modern watches you cna get for the same price and hese looks good i wouldn't mind if no rolex or any luxury branding wouldn't even be on it.
Curious, do you feel the same when the CCP steals the plans for high-tech products and just al of a sudden there's a copy of Rolls-Royce jet engine. The US, EU and the Swiss opened up the world to China, so this is just one facet of that plan. You have to like it or lump it (or vote the right way so that the world can shun Chinese products altogether).
@@maszkalman3676 You are replying to an ad.
Nah people get robbed all the time, just wear a fake and let em take it, if shit hits the fan, most people won't see the difference anyway.
Someone in the government should do something about it.
The biggest tell is that you can actually buy the fake one.
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@@UGA.D really tell me where to buy one? haha
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🤣😂🤣😂 Yeah they are so hard to come by that even Rolex boutiques are gonna start to sell fakes 🙃
When the fakers put you on a waitlist is when the watches will be truly indiscernible.
Ironically, the maker of this Replica got raided this week making these just as rare as the original
Now that’s funny right there! 😂😆🤣
The rep sellers did take pre orders for daytonas and submariners 🙂
@@DerEchteBabo Link ! Because I'd not want anything happen to them . They are more talented than Rolex watchmakers.
@@DerEchteBabo this a vsf or noob?
We need to stop criminals like Ziarex from selling mega-clone replica watches because selling mega-clone replicas with the same serial number as the original watch is illegal.
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I will report them to the FBI
CIA, hello!
Someone in the government should do something about it.
This is a serious problem, we must react
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These super clones are starting to remind me of lab grown diamonds in that they expose the absurdity of the original’s price structure.
So you don't care about the movement of a mechanical watch then? Cos that's the only way that analogy works. The cloned watches don't have any of the R&D, engineering or technology in the movement. Lab grown diamonds are literally identical to the natural ones.
@@1physics yes, but the R & D to these analogs are only a fraction of what the watch companies sell them for.
@@eurekarx2048exactly
@@eurekarx2048here’s the thing a rolex is not more valuable because of the manufacturer, it is more valuable because of what people are willing to pay for them. We don’t even need to talk about fakes, why is a Daytona more expensive than the Omega Speedmaster? While the Rolex is slightly better made than the Omega, it is not 10k dollars nicer… well it’s because rich people think that Hollywood is cooler than science. They will pay up to 17 million dollars for Paul Newmans Daytona, but only 250k for speedmaster, one flown to space.
Which drives the point, for rich people today Rolex has always been cool, a status symbol. All their hero’s and cool dudes wore one. So they will pay more for them, to be one of them. Their money is stored in a semi-stable place, and they have a heirloom for generations. They will always have value, and it’s too popular to be forgotten like the pocket watch.
When the fake comes out with a product, that is 99% the real one for 99% of the problem, it still doesn’t matter, it won’t hold its price, and it will be a regular item, not something that could be consider an investment on itself.
@@qwertpoiuy430 well you are not wrong, that's what makes the prices absurd, it's thorough perceive value and generational marketing. Make something exclusive or limited and you be able to sell at exorbitant prices
The fact that they can make the same thing for only $1k only highlights how bad of a value the real thing is
100% rich people are like sheep
Precisely!
@@T7yD2m9kFj3wL ahh yes, I shouldn't buy a sensibly priced, quality watch in order to keep the other guys watch at higher value
You actually miss the point entirely. Producers of fake/clone watches do not have the same quality controls in place, the staff are not qualified or experienced watch builders ,they do not use premium components and the materials used will be of the lowest quality to produce the biggest profit margins. All legitimate companies employ qualified experienced staff, they have strict quality controls in place and will use high quality components and materials , that is what you are paying for. I have bought cheap binoculars made in China unbranded, I also have a pair of branded made China high quality binoculars , the difference is highly noticeable.
@@A67255 Sheep. They are using the same materials...
I have a real Rolex, and when I got mine, prices were reasonable. But considering the absurdity of pricing now and the replicas getting to the point where jewelers can't tell the difference, it's almost stupid to buy authentic anymore.
Sad but true.
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I agree.
"Hey bro, can I check out your Rolex?"
:brings out microscope:
Soon you'll have difficulty telling the difference even with a microscope. Imagine the new fakes they must be working on right now.
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As long as the fake is sold as a replica for $1000 instead of as an original for $30.000, I think you’d be getting an amazing deal compared to the real Rolex
Why not just buy a used rolex or omega for $2000? you can buy some omegas used for $1000 if you know where to look
@HarryHewitt-lh8xx I have 3 Omegas, 2 speedmasters and a seamaster. I know they are real because I sell them on ebay and anything over 1500 has to be sent to ebays authenticator before it goes to the customer. Also the chronograph second hand on one of my speedys fell off and it cost me £600 to get it repaired by Omega. I only paid £1000 to buy the thing in the first place so i was not happy but they refurbished it and it now has a 2 year warrant. I will sell it for £2000. its a lot of watch for the money
@@agent19kentuckypotbaron15the cheapest used Rolex I have ever encountered was $9000.
@@agent19kentuckypotbaron15 Find me a used Rolex for $2000
@HarryHewitt-lh8xx Agreed. Show me where you can get decent used Omegas or Roli's for $2K, agent19? If anything used Roli's are more expensive than new, depending on the model.
Where can I buy the replica? Ha ha ha….
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My Swissarex watch is a true masterpiece.
To be fair, if I had $700 to spend on a 99.9% perfect Rolex replica I'd do it in a heartbeat.
nobody else would know but you would. id rather have something that's actually worth $700, rather than buying a fake.
I had that very thought, but it would encourage the fake watch producers.
To be fair and accurate, the replica is literally matching the craftmanship, so it is worth 700, easily. From the movement to the brushed steel. The problem with watches, is turnover rate. A rolex is in no way shape or form worth a full $10k, it takes about 200-350$ to make one (estimated), you're paying for the name and exclusivity, which again, makes you a dumb dumb. All the materials on the replica, are the same. You're still in an exclusive club keep in mind, no one I know, even wears watches that much, let alone anything more than a couple hundred.
Why? It is still a fake and you would know it. It says more about you personally than anything else. You can pretend to be a rich person, but at the end of the day you still get to go home to your one bedroom apartment in your Civic. You don't get to join our club no matter how much you pretend.
The machinery still not the same, fake is fake, your grandson would inherit a not working machine, to know grandpa was a fake
Ignoring the fact that it's a replica, it's actually a good quality watch, presumably for a reasonable price. If they produced their own original designs with this level of quality, they could earn themselves a respectable reputation.
That's exactly what Ginault did.
Steeldive should do one. It would be a big seller.
however, by producing these replicas, they are earning themselves a respectable amount of money. nobody would buy their original designs, because they don't have 'history' and 'prestige' and because they... aren't from central-western europe.
people buy watches as status symbols, so that's what gets produced in this free-er market without artificially limited supply.
Why would they? Rolex spend billions of pounds of advertising for a watch they can make pretty accurately and more appealing to a lot of people
Small manufacturers have marketing challenges. You have to pump millions into marketing machine for people to recognize your brand.
The moment you need a microscope to proof one watch is worth 29.000€ more than the other. Rolex is just not worth the difference.
so true, why would we spend that much of money to buy a watch that a factory in china can make thousand a day lol
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Actually it is ...ability to hold value...so clearly you arent a person who washes in the beauty of refinement ...hmmm shameful ....you don't deserve to be on this channel
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@@fritzdaddy-135mmgetstagger4 what ability to hold value for item worth $700? Beauty of refinement "with magnifying glass" you miss there. Let the owner of the channel decide who deserve and who not.
In love with my Swissarex timepiece. 😍
about the laser etched crown, i believe the laser etching uses the depth of the crystal, so not all “dots” are on the same horizontal plane... the fake looks like it uses a simple etching, which, would make this tell 8/8... all in all a fantastic video! It really shows how much work you put into this! Keep up the amazing work!
That’s exactly right. It only looks perfect on the authentic when viewed absolutely straight on.
Yes this is correct. It's harder to replicate something that has been designed to be 'imperfect'. If the laser etched crown looks perfect then the watch, or at least the crystal, is probably a fake.
Yup, that's it. Rolex's etching is like a tiny version of those 3-D portraits etched inside crystals, the kind you can buy at kiosks in shopping malls.
Yup, on the original Rolex, the etched crown looks perfect when viewed perpendicular from above but from an angle the etched dots looks skewed due to the technique described above.
The irregular depth itching is done to maintain the strength of the crystal. Itching done on same depth would make it weaker.
Rolex should hire these guys to increase their production.
Seriously they do.
Rolex doesn't want to increase production. They intentionally limit production to increase demand.
@@cv600rr Just like they intentionally sell stock to Grey Market dealers to further inflate their prices.
Nope. Rolex does not want to increase production. That would flood the market.
Hahaha.
"Oh I missed that! Thanks for the feedback, we'll work on these changes next" - Superclone Forger 😂
Might be intentional, so they have something to market later.
As far as I heard, it's the same with cameras, feature get added and removed to have something new every year.
@@BadeniaFilme lol you think they have a 5-year business plan and long term strategy? These are illegal fakes
@@nintendokings Just because a business is doing something illegal doesn't necessaryly negates a long term plan. Ever heard about organized crime? And making these fakes and distributing these clearly requires a complex organisation :D
@@BadeniaFilme yes but when you say they’re holding back enhancements: you can only do that if you have a monopoly on the product. It makes no sense. There are hundreds of companies making fakes and even plenty making these kind of super-fakes. Someone else in China can improve them, so it makes no sense to hold back improvements as a long-term release strategy
Fakers won’t waste time on making a completely exact copy, it just has to fool most people, usually non-aficionados, enough that they get tricked
All these people are like “that’s illegal!” And I’m just thinking, that’s impressive.
The etched crown is meant to look right only when the crystal is perfectly in front of you, because it's laser etched on 3 different depths of the crystal. It's an anti-counterfeit measure as the fakes don't use 3d laser etching. So if the crown always looks right, it's acutally a bad thing and a huge tell.
Wow! That’s great info! 👍👍👍
Wow, we've actually entered the territory of "if it looks good from all angles then it's a fake". I get that it works as a security feature but at what point are we making the watch less attractive just to hinder counterfitters? Isn't that a little backwards? Wouldn't I rather have the fake then?
@@willfrank961 Well, it's not something that jumps out at you anyway. It's almost invisible unless one deliberately looks for it, so there's no adverse impact on the attractiveness of the watch.
Is this something on newer crystals? Because on models before 2021 the laser etched crown is perfect from every angel on the real ones too.
Didn't know that, and I thought I was pretty up on my Rolexes.....now I'm going to be hunting down the teeeeeny crowns after work. I thought my Milgauss was perfectly shaped, but then again I only looked at it head on, never looked at my GMT or YachtMaster.
The replica makers be watching all these videos and be like..."cool, we know what to fix for next ones."
Dunno what is scariest, how accurate this fake is or this showing how overpriced the original is!
Good video, thank you 👍🏻👍🏻
On MSRP the rolex is not overpriced. you have materials, craftsmanship, brand recognition, history, durability, accuracy etc. as for grey market prices it's just economics. People want the product and there is a scarcity of it. Yes you can argue it's a fake scarcity and rolex could produce more watches but that doesn't matter. People want it and there's not enough offer so the price goes up like crazy.
@@VictorDude98 if history and brand recognition holds no value why don't just buy a casio? why is rolex one of the most sought after watch brands in the world? so you want the watch for the price of its production? lel. are you serious? also its not just functions and materials that make a watch priceworthy. if that was the case any tag heur chrono would be more valuable e.g than a omega diver. if that was the case a quartz watch would always be more valuable than a mechanical one.
@@VulgarRage You just proved my entire point, thank you.
@@VulgarRage when you can buy something for a 20th of the price that's only distinguishable from the original by an expert with a macro lens then IMHO it's not just overpriced it's taking the p*ss!!
Clearly we the consumers are happy to pay that huge premium for the Brand recognition and history though, fair enough. To each their own - all watches are great, except fakes.
@@stevefox8605 sure. But the fakes have "value" because theres a brand created over 100 years ago that built recognition, history and perceived value in the eyes of the consumer. The fake market only exists because of the gens. The fakes take their value indirectly from the original brands. You have people willing to pay for a fake just to pretend they have the gen. That's how valuable brand recognition and history have. If people just wanted a better price worthy watch then they would just buy a seiko. and btw we are forgetting than a luxury watch if properly maintained will last you a life time and hold value. a fake will be gone after some time and always be worthless.
Obsessed with the elegance of Swissarex.
Quality and style, Swissarex has it all!
If identifying a fake can only be done under a microscope, I'd buy a replica anyday, ANY DAY.
11:20 I wouldn't say the original's laser etched crown is poorer quality than the fake's - it's actually the opposite. The laser dots in the original crown are placed at different depths of the crystal, so the crown will look perfect when viewed directly from above, but appear "irregular" when viewed from an angle. The comparison at 11:20 actually demonstrates how this feature can be used to identify a fake!
Exactly
Can't imagine my wrist without Swissarex.
The reason the crown looks like this on the original is because of the viewing angle. Each dot that composes the crown is lasered at a different depth, so it looks good from the top but strange from the side. It is very hard to replicate this and the fake has all dots of the same depth.
Thanks for the info. makes sense...
This is exactly what I suspected. So Rolex is actually using a technique where the dots are burned inside the crystal, similar to how they do those 3D acrylic engravings. Except they are doing it in a crazy thin and much harder to burn material, which is insane. And it's lasered at different depths on purpose so that only 1 angle shows the correct crown (I'm guessing you have to look perpendicular to the crystal). That lasering machine must cost a fortune. The fake is probably just engraved on the surface.
Rolex is in a position where it needs to employ anti-fakery proof marks similar to banknotes 😂
Yeah the last one is not entirely accurate because of this exact point. From a straight on angle the crown is complete and clear.
yes, well that's worth the extra $30,000.
@@everythingisalllies2141 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH ily
Picked up a Daytona clone from Chrono Select after watching this, and Im shook! The attention to detail, especially on the dial, is impressive.
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it proves at least one thing: Rolex are overpaid and overquoted compared to their real value, as is often the case with luxury products.
90% accurate at 90% off
They maybe cost only 1000 to make. Chaching
@@drpepper3838 Ex Hublot employee speaking.
They are made in Switzerland. Forget the "1000 to make". Nothing is done for a thousand bucks there with exception maybe of buying groceries.
The watches are made by highly trained and skilled workers, paid 6'000-8'000$ per worker.
The steel mill refining the metals for Rolex will cost good $$$.
The building they are made in cost a fortune in running fees.
The CNC machines and quality control robots will cost another fortune and an army of automaticians.
There is a chairboard and many commanding employees, that will cost even more than the skilled employees I mentionned before.
And then you must offer a network of salesmens/womens, return policies and warranties.
This all adds costs. It's easy for a chinese to come and offer a product for a fraction of all this. Everything is cheaper there and they have no service to offer and cheap workforce.
Quality like no other, that's Swissarex.
Never buy that crap
Where did you buy the fake? I'd like to study them closer myself.
I’ll rock a rep before spending 15k on a watch the rep can do the same thing tell time and look just as good 🔥
@@JayMili1995 but you still would have a fake. That feeling sucks
@@Barelo not really but that’s your opinion. I feel like people are brainwashed into spending there money to keep them from being wealthy. Prices of resale on shoes and watches “collectibles” that do nothing for you add no value you to your life is so expensive. But that’s my opinion.
@@Barelo Actually spending 15k on a real one is what sucks. I can have a lot better time spending 15K elsewhere. Not to mention when inevitably i get robbed, I'll have no qualms about handing the fake watch over. People have been murdered for their Rolex's.
@@Barelo And the real one value increases every year. The cheap fake one remains a cheap fake one.
The only $30,000 mistake you could make was buying a Rolex for $30,000 when a $700 replica is nearly indistinguishable
Supporting crime is never an option. It makes society rot. Normally, peoples don't realize that the rotting will spread through their enabling mindset, but I'm sure you know places where the law is only just a concept.
Essentialy Jenni you could be having dinner with someone wearing the replica and you would never know, thus making the watch a success for the buyer because anyone who buys an expensive watch is showing it off along with one's enjoyment!
At this point, im realizing rolex needs to drop there prices lol
Their prices are not high, it’s the resale market that drives up the prices
But they don't cost as much as they do because they are $20k well made. For the most part you are paying for the name and when you know it's not real then it kinda loses the point.
29300 euros is to pay for ads in formula 1
You think Rolex care? Also the reason the Daytona is 30,000 is because of hype. It doesnt retail for that. Rolex are a luxury watch brand. If they start selling their watches for 3k than anyone can afford one (Anyone with a job in a 1st world country). Then its not luxury. Its a well known fact luxury brands purposely inflate their prices so poor people can't afford them.
@@Robstrap I'm wearing a $3 Rolex submariner fake watch. Come to our country you'll find watches from $0.5
If you could own a replica Lamborghini for 30,000 $ and it was just as fast , had the same horse power , same built quality and only the dealership could tell that it was not real , would you buy one ?
That’s the real question
100%
Are you referring to the 3/4 ton 4x4 turbo-diesel light trucks? even if the dealers can tell the difference the buyers are capable of deluding themelves that they have the ultimate sporting vehicle
I think in another few years' time, you'll need to disassemble the entire watch to prove it's real 😂🤪
With these vids pointing out some of the flaws, yep
righttttt?
I was at a watch get together pre COVID, where a watchmaker had such an accurate replica, that he was able to show how it would accept actual Rolex movement parts without issue and that it was almost impossible to tell the difference between them.
I genuinely don't think this will ever be the case. There will always be a gap between the genuine watches and replicas due to the huge investment in tooling and skilled watchmakers Rolex have. You just can't replicate that when you're churning out replicas for a few hundred dollars a piece.
@@MarkMilotay good Rolex and Omega replicas have been able to accept genuine movements and parts for years, this isn't anything new. The point is, Rolex and Omega have made it so that these parts can only be sourced directly through them now, which has meant that they are now getting very difficult and expensive to source via any other means. So yes, you could buy a replica Sub for instance, and then buy a genuine movement for it, but you'd end up with a very very expensive replica that Rolex would take off you if it ever went in for a service. So what would be the point? OK so you don't go down the route of putting a genuine movement in, because it's too expensive. So you get a genuine dial, hands, stem, crown, sapphire. That's still a huge investment into a replica watch that anyone could tell was fake within 2 seconds as soon as the case back comes off. Again... What's the point?
The production cost for both watches is probably the same.
The production cost of a Porsche 911 and an Audi A6 are probably the same.
If you can buy it for $1k, let's say the whole Walker buys it for $800, and that's very generous, and the maker would be making say 40% margin, then they're making around $320. So it costs them $480 to make it. There's no way your producing a watch in Switzerland for $480. Not a chance.
So true
@@littlejackalo5326 lol wtf are you even saying! obviously you do. The main expense on Rolex" side is innovation and marketing. The pure material cost is negligable, and the watch makers dont make 10k a month trust me.
Only when white gold cost the same as stainless
It’s partially Rolex’s fault bc they made impossible to find an authentic Daytona at AD.
Demand is insane for these watches, they could make 20 times more and still not have any in an AD window. At the end of the day, Rolex do make nearly a million watches a year. Unfortunately demand for them is a whole lot more than this figure.
Whether Rolex is to blame or not it doesn’t give anyone the right to infringe on their intellectual properties, copyrights and/or patents. If you want to build a watch then fine. But put your own name on it.
@@briansimer4311 totally agree. Rolex have spent 116 years growing their brand. If you want a cheaper watch, there are so many other great brands that you can choose from. Why wear a replica? Fake watch, fake person.
@@gurdeeps they refuse to sell it? So what exactly do you think is happening? You think AD's have a load of them stuck in their safes? Or you think Rolex are selling directly to grey market? What exactly is it you think is happening?
That is why ADs are starting to sell replicas.
My Swissarex watch is my daily companion.
This is NOT a Trusted Dealer. And the comments here ar FAKE!
I was a Rolex owner for 19 years - Submariner non-date 14060M. After the initial thrill wore off (about a year in) I went back to wearing the other watches in my collection (mainly Oris) with the Sub as mainly a special occasion/show off piece. That didn't make any sense as I bought it as a go anywhere, do anything tool watch. It took a while to sink in but I finally admitted the truth that I was more concerned with being a Rolex owner than a Rolex wearer. Finally I sold it and bought an Oris Diver 65 as I knew I would be wearing that thing far more often. Dumping the Rolex for something better looking was a truly liberating experience. It's great to be a watch lover again.
That was very well said! "more concerned with being a Rolex owner than a Rolex wearer" - being more concered with owning a status symbol rather than wearing a great handmade and mechanical masterpiece of a watch is a sad reality for many people. Thank you for sharing your wholesome story
the Submariner has that hour hand with the Mercedes star, I'm not really a fan of that, it's a bit weird.
I really wouldn’t want to be branded as a rich guy showing off his wealth, which really is what being a rolex owner is at the end of the day.
I understand why people like watch, but the status thing, I don’t get at all.
I have 1 watch. It tells the time above and underwater to 50m. What do I need another one for? Cost £150 and it never misses a beat. Had it 10 years. Why the f%^k would I pay €30,000 for something that does exactly the same - unless I was brain dead. Its JUST A WATCH THAT TELLS TIME.
@@csjrogerson2377 Rolex watches are for people with way more money than they need. I would probably buy one if I were rich
The "thirty thousand dollar mistake" is when you pay Rolex 30 grand for a watch that is virtually indistinguishable from one that costs only $1000 to make. (There's a sucker born every minute...)
A 30k dollars rolex costs less than 1k dollar to produce
@@frankjoy2455 Heh heh, that makes it even more of a mistake.
@@philmann3476 it depends. Manufacturing costs are very low in general. Your car, your house, your shoes…you pay at least 10 times the production cost. Looking only at production costs would take you to not buy anything
@@frankjoy2455 Maybe, except that the "faker" here apparently can produce an exact duplicate watch and profitably sell it for $1000, which already takes into account the value beyond mere production cost. If they can do it at a $1000 retail price point, my strong suspicion is that it costs Rolex even LESS to make one of their watches than it costs whoever makes this fake. Which raises the question of what if anything, beyond admitted prestige, are you getting for the additional $29K? The answer may indeed be that you are simply paying for the name, which, if it makes you happy, is your choice.
@@philmann3476 Exactly. I had a rolex, someone robbed it from my locker. Stupid me for keeping a rolex in a gym locker. Since then I decided I would never have an expensive watch any more. I have replicas of patek philipe, iwc and hublot and I al happy with them. I love the design and the accuracy of the replica. And I don’t judge myself for wearing replicas. Judging yourself for things you do is simply stupid
The laser crowns are meant to look at a perpendicular angle to see the crown shape, rather than a tilted angle. The original one also used a different laser depth for the crown execution which I think the forgers are unlikely to be able to master this technique yet.
bravo...this is the best video ever...usually people show quickly the watch and say "you see here the différents??"but you go really near and slow to things and explain.that is amazing.
Jenni, the difference between the authentic and fake laser etched crowns in this comoarison is that the authentic etching places the dots that make up the crown at alternating depths in the crystal, which adds complexity and makes the crown look odd and sloppy when viewed at an angle other than "en face." The dots on the counterfeit look "cleaner" at an angle because they are all applied in the same plane/same depth, which tells you it is not genuine.
Interesting. I noticed this on my Explorer and I thought it was odd, but that makes sense.
I have a fake and I tell people it’s fake. They’re more amazed at how perfect the fake is rather than disappointed that they’re not in the presence of a genuine Rolex 😂
Where did you purchase it
Well, Jenni, when the Chinese learn about the free-sprung balance with its micro stella adjustment screws then Rolex should start to worry. The Chinese are able to clone the 6490 series of movements with a screw balance so it's only a matter of time. It rather brings home a point that when purchasing a Rolex a great portion goes to recover costs in marketing which is something Rolex is very good at.
Thank you for a great presentation.
China only invented the ball point pen a couple years ago so wouldn't worry, it was a huge deal in china took them 70+ years of buying billions of ballpoint pens/ballpoints from BIC and others. They couldn't make the little ballpoints in the tip so small.
@@bennybennyson1079 Chinese cars were deathtraps a few years ago. Now they own Volvo. You're argument is void.
@@rtoma1974 LOL Your argument is invalid/ and has nothing to do with what i said. How is a chinese company buying volvo what has that got to do with anything. They still cant invent anything themselves
@@bennybennyson1079 I thought I'd seen chinese ballpoint pens since at least 10 years ago
@@substygram4357 No maybe the plastic design around the pen was Chinese made but the ballpoint internals is bought from BIC
Got a panda daytona from chrono select, and let me assure you, its spoton! The video didnt capture the overall craftsmanship. It truly replicates the authentic experience.
'Genuine Replica'!
I was walking through a night market in Hangzhou a few years back and had the vendor shouting out 'Genuine Replica' to me as I walked by. Took me a second to think what he had said, then I couldn't stop giggling about it.
I was ready to spend all my money on a Daytona, but that laser engraved crown convinced me to go with the fake replica
Ok, where do you get one? That Jenni missed to tell us, just the original for 30k we know, very expensive, but the marvelously done replica? Where, and how much? 1k?
Not even 1k, more like 700$, do your research on specialized forums, it's easy
@@footballtiktoks7886 check out reptime subreddit or RWI and do plenty of research. I'm guessing the rep in this video is from Noob factory.
fake watches are for fake people, you're a clown if you buy one just keep that in mind.
@@rever-mi6qz Jenni bought quite a few fake watches, is she a clown🤔
I wonder how many of these differences get lost from manufacturers year to year.
I mean Rolex process also changes so comparing a 2 authentic few years apart will likely show difference as well
Wow chat full of bots.
If a watchmaker can’t tell them apart, then pawn shops definitely won’t 👍🏻
Doesn't matter if it's real or not, he's only going to give you 50 bucks. Either way, he wins.
They definetly would..
bro...?
you be surprised
@@wingracer1614 Word. I took an original Bulova Stars and Stripes box and everything, to a pawn shop to get a price just in case recession hits harder, and they were doing me the Pawn Stars routine of "I can give you $100 and I'm taking a risk here".
So, pawning a fake Rolex won't make you rich; they don't lose LOL
A real Daytona is one of the most overpriced watches right now. $14,100 USD for a mass produced, machine finished watch is crazy.
If only it were just $14,100...it sells for almost $30,000...absolutely crazy and absolutely not worth it
My Citizen eco-drive caliber E210 movement is hand made and the watch was about $500.
Demand driven. Pretty simple
Anything you can sell the next day for more than you paid is worth the price!
@@Arcord10 its a white gold rolex “panda” not steel 904L common rolex daytona!
This is just deterring people from buying watches from big name brands. It's getting scarier day by day. I've also slightly fallen in love with the fake. I hate this.
It's really not. Demand for Rolex is the highest its ever been, hence why they are now impossible to get from AD's unless you've got serious history with them.
If anything the ridiculous demand and overinflated grey market prices are forcing more people in to the replica market. Even the right replicas are gaining value over time.
there´s probably a poor soul that bougth a fake rolex for over 10k out there, and its rocking his wrist and he and no one will every tell that´t actually a fake
So, if replica costs 1000 $ and original 30 000 $ and you can't tell which is which then original manufacturer is selling "OOORRRIGINAAALLL BRRRAAANNNDDDD🤪" to you for 29 000 $!!!!!!!
I understood that the laser-etched crown in the crystal is multi-level on an authenticate Rolex. This shows the crown "perfectly" from straight-on and "broken" when viewed from the side because of purposeful parallax.
I totally agree. I own a panda and it is really hard to see the LEC on a straight up angle given the dial is white. However, if you study very closely using a 15x or 20x loupe, you will notice the LEC on the Daytona is infact different from the other Rolex in that the bottom egg-shape circle has double parallel line instead of single line hence will distort even more if not view dead straight from the top. To my surprised, so far no one or any watch TH-camrs notices or even mention this.
When the replica is so good that nobody will notice, how can you justify an extra $29k?
But they will notice you are working at mcdonalds and have supositions about your watch, but they will never tell, actually opening the back case would make them think the watch is indeed original
Golden rule 12 - You know something is a scam if it's difficult for an expert to tell the difference between a real and a fake.
Not neceserily. Some very talented artist can copy a painting perfectly, but the original will remain the more valuable because of the age and history.
I loved this video and I'm excited to watch more. There is something confusing, however, about how you present the fake vs. the original. The moving camera is distracting. Plus, your angles from the fake vs. original are different from each other. You show the fake and then the original but it's hard to compare because the fake is no longer on the screen. I would much rather see still photographs framed and cropped exactly the same for both the fake vs. the original. Keep the fake vs. original side-by-side on the screen (like at 9:38) so we can see them next to each other. And on the photos use arrow to point to the areas you're talking about. Sharp, detailed photos are better and less distracting than these sometimes out of focus images you're showing here. Put the camera on a tripod and shoot a f16 for insanely detailed and clear shots. Just an idea. I hope you're not offended.
You're 100% right, bro!
Watch a video by The Timepiece Gentlemen. He did a video exactly how you want it to be.
4 guys sitting in China factory hq: "Hey Jenni just posted another comparison video, let quality control know."
😂 It’s funny bcoz it’s true 😂😂😂
"We need to make the rehaut shittier!"
Another meeting for production schedule.
Chinese people with lebron voice: THAT´S TOO EASY!!!!
The Replica looks better that the original when you compare the price!
Yes"" I Go foot the 700 Euro Fake. and Safe me 29,300 euro
But the owner of those watches will not look just as good. If you want a watch, you can buy a lot for 700 Euro. Yes, it won't be luxury, the brand will be not as known, but it will be a genuine thing, not just a parody of the genuine.
@@darkokovac993 Do you own a Rolex?
@@darkokovac993 Kinda of missing the pt and top reason for luxury watches. Status. A fake rolex that no one can recognize vs a 700 real whatever is apples and oranges
@@johncarter6238 u can get a fake for 100€lol
I think the intended message here is: both Rolexes lose (the fake is immoral and the original is a rip-off). And the silent winner is: the Casio on her wrist (original and inexpensive).
casios look like shit. they work though gotta give you that, but they (most of them) look like shit.
@@deathrager2404 like you lol gotta work but feel like shit.I understand it Mr.millionaire
@@deathrager2404 Just tried to make sense out of this video. Ok, maybe she means: "I really don't care which watch you buy, fake or real, just give me some clicks and make me and my sponsor happy, lol"
@@deathrager2404 really ... rolex looks like shit according to the price... can a rolex get the look of CASIO MUDMASTER , GULFMASTER OR G SQUAD ..... U SAY THEY LOOK SHIT .... FUNNY GUY .... CASIO HAS THE BEST TECHNOLOGY IN THE WORLD , THE MOST ACCURATE WATCHES not like those inaccurate automatic shits ....... and also casio gives their customers the best price , that's how they have their reputation " the best for the lowest price " ...casio gives the most accurate , toughest , 200m wr , atomic time keeping , GPS , heart rate sensor for just $400 .... and that's how a real manufacturer should be .... not giving a shit for $10k
@@100mcreations6 i would never buy a rolex. rather buy a casio and pimp it out. but to be honest, who the fuck evne uses watches nowadays? are we back in the 90s bro? everyone got phones. lmao or cars with time. dont need a fuckin watch its a pure waste of money.
I find it quite interesting that several aspects of the fake, as shown in this video do in fact look better than on the actual Rolex. Even the red writing "ROLEX" is more sharply defined and is therefore more precise appearing and easier to read from a few feet back, on the fake. Frankly I cannot afford either!
I agree
People need to understand that fake ones are good replicas, but that shoot the price up. If you want a fake one that is visible at the 1st look then price is affordable, otherwise good fake one it cost money. So, as we say in the US you can buy brand new T-shirt for $5, but you can buy as well for $300.
@@ImportedFromSerbia they still deliver the same watch for 1/30 of the price !
Wow, that's pretty scary... at 7:40 the fake marker looks nicer than the original. Yikes! 😮
Would be interesting to test which of the two watches actually work the best in terms of accuracy, reliabuåility and durability.
Ugh please tell us where to get that fake! It’s a step up from my Pagani design homage
dude it's really not that hard, take five minutes to search up "fake Rolex" and you'll be met with plenty of examples of high-end replicas that are made in Switzerland etc. it's just that you're going to be shopping through a very shady and illegal website obviously
also she wouldn't tell you where to buy the watch even if she wanted to, (cuz it's illegal, duhh)
@@JoseRodriguez-ey7ju The reps are made in China, not Switzerland.
@@JoseRodriguez-ey7ju lmfao theres no such thing as high end reps made in Switzerland. the websites that mention anything being swiss are scammers
Can I suggest for these types of videos, always be consistent when putting them side by side. If you start with the fake on the right then keep the fake on the right throughout the video.
In fact this proves :
1 given the quality and low price of those replicas this shows clearly that Rolex is not a great watchmaker. Rolex just admitted recently that scarcity was not a strategy but a production issue...may be Rolex could then go to see the clone makers and learn a bit of engineering from them...
2 that Rolex scarcity, purposeful or not, is basically pushing customers who would have probably bought the real one at the public price if it was available at the local AD and not through this opaque waiting list process, to buy a fake as the real one is anyway not available...
It does not prove anything, these genius guys doing replicas can build any watch. They do the same with Patek Philippe or Audemars Piguet. They focus on these brands because they are super desired, not because it's easy to copy
They now make a $1200 replica/fake that has solved all of these issues. They come from the Noob factory. I am sure I'm not the only one to think this, but if you need to look at a watch at this level of detail to tell if it is fake or not then what is the point of the genuine item? The prices are highly inflated. The movements are ages old and developed very little from 40-50 years ago.
Where was this fake purchased from?
From what I've heard, the Rolex crown on the crystal "looks" worse than the clone but its because Rolex made the marks at different depths in the crystal. Unlike the clone that just has it all at the same depth.
So.. where can I buy that replica?
That's the end of my watch hobby (which lasted for about three weeks). I would have no chance of spotting those minor details. I can see that the comments section is flooded with people advertising fake watch retailers. This market is ruined. It's kinda sad. Anyway, thanks for the video.
Some great information thanks!
Personally I think the lume and numeral marker, as shown at 7:39 look better on the fake.
The rehaut is so different, that is the first thing I would look for. Also, if you can see the movement the word "DAYTONA" font is fatter on the fake, but of course you would need a real one next to it in order to notice the difference.
I would guess not all fakes would have the same anomolies, so whilst one clue might be correct, another may not be.
Best to buy a fake from an authorized fake dealer!
The authentic rehaut has the letters aligned with the second markers on the dial - that's probably the easiest tell to spot (at least for this particular fake ... the latest counterfeits presumably have attended to that detail by now.
@@jpdemer5 they had that down like 2 years ago when I was in that scene
Absolutely agree with you
I wonder if you looked at two authentic Rolex's same model, color, everything side by side if you would think one was a fake...
Sure, no waiting list and $32k for a watch that retails for nearly half that. Shame on you Rolex for creating situations where your watches are only available in the secondary market where places like this rape you on the price. How does this happen? Tons of supply but only at outrageously inflated prices in the secondary market.
While Rolex is definitely partly to blame, I think the whole thing is now a self-fulfilling prophecy now. Secondary Dealers buyout all the stock (or their sources buy out all the stock), and they put for sale at inflated prices. That's why in Asia, there are actually a ton of stores that carry lots of Daytonas, but the list price is already up there.
FYI, the laser engraved on the original is supposed to be like that because the dots are lasered onto different layers of the saphire glass, and will only be aligned if looked at from above
If I have to take the case back off to tell the difference,
I may just consider buying one!
Where i can buy the " replica" please :)
Replica rolex
Google ‘ noob watch’
You’re welcome.
It's probably a noob v3. It's explicitly illegal for me to guide you to how you might purchase a replica watch in my country. It's not illegal for me to use my knowledge in the field to identify what Chinese Factory (noob) made which version (v3) of a replica watch.
@@komali2 Even though many watch TH-camrs compare replica watches to the real things, they are in affect promoting people to go hunt for replica watches. Adrian has done the same... Although I don't buy replica's, watching Jenni's and Adrian's - if I was short on funds - would make me want to buy the replica.
@@marshmallow21 I mean like i said somewhere else, replica watches represent the greatest value in watch buying right now. This daytona is a 3 subdial functioning mechanical chrono with sapphire crystal and ceramic bezel for about 700$. Rip off the rolex logo and that's still a pretty strong argument for the watch. I happen to know that these generally run from factory at about +.33 sec per day, to boot. The only problem is they're illegal to purchase in most countries. I really wish factories like NOOB would apply their skills in creating homages or just their own designs. And I say that as someone that really doesn't get along with modern IP law.
Hey Jenni. Rolex uses Chromalight, not Superluminova!
I believe Chromalight is just Rolex speak for Superluminova.
It's like saying Rolex uses perpetual movement, not automatic..
Just like datejust
@@larryhand6537 nope, entirely different material.
@@mattonthewater Rolex started using chromalight early 2000, before that they used superluminova & before that Luminova before that tritium, i am told?
I believe the engraved crown looks "worse" on the real Rolex is because it's engraved at different levels in the crystal. The fake is all on the same level so it looks sharper.
That's why I'd rather save money and get a Seiko "Daytona", Bulova Lunar Pilot or other excellent homage watch. Not only can you get multiple watches for the money, but you don't risk blowing a fortune on a fake.
I love these videos, they help improve these clones!
Clones also push the luxury brands to invest into more refined machining, and not stay content with old 60s tech.
How long is the waitlist for the replica?
As long as it takes to deliver from China.
Actually you won’t get this model rep now because the rep factory got busted. But in 3-6 months a new factory will produce the new ‘N*** V*’ (model of this rep) - now I wouldn’t tell you the model because then it lowers my chance of getting it 😁
@@wavyavy what was the company?
This entire thing really makes you wonder what the point of an ultra high end watch is. When quartz first came out, the high end watch makers embraced it since it was objectively better. But as the cost of making a quartz watch started to crash, everyone realized that this would put high end watch makers out of business. Companies like Rolex pointed out that even though their movements were old fashioned, they were also works of art that were built by skilled craftsmen. Now they can mass produce movements that are just as good as the hand built ones. How long will it be before they can mass produce a watch that is basically identical to the real one? Will that finally put companies like Rolex out of business?
Seiko is already there - but taking advantage of the absurd pricing of Rolex, AP, and Omega watches. I bet they could sell a Grand Seiko for $900 and still turn a nifty profit.
Luxury goods are not about cost of manufacture. Rolex watches sell for ridiculous money not because the technology, craftsmanship or quality is worth it. They sell because it is a statement: I have enough money and enough connections to own one. It is your business card in the world of rich.
@@senorigor9439 The laws of supply and demand simply don't apply to the rich, because they have so much money that there's no need to evaluate the tradeoff.
You and I have to weigh the value (to us) of all the other things we could do with $80,000 before we plunk it down on a watch, whereas the rich don't have to give up anything: there's always another $80,000 (and another and another and another...) to buy all the other stuff they want.
Rolex is selling 2 million watches per year and I don't even know if that includes Tudor. There are so many people using cheap debt (due to low interest rates) to buy up Rolex watches as an investment or to scalp. Once rates go higher and a recession hits, demand will evaporate and the millions of Rolex watches that are selling will start to pile up at dealers across the world. The price is going to crash just like with stocks, crypto and other speculative assets. It's just a matter of time.
@@LigerSupremacy Yep: using cheap money to keep the market (and the value of their inventory) propped up. It's unsustainable, and the crash will be spectacular when they all rush for the exits at once. I'll bet the watches are already trading hands at far less than "market" price (at prices the dealers don't want the public to know about.)
How many pieces of the movement of an original Rolex are made in Switzterland?
Very informative and well done video Jenni!! Perfect example of why Rolex should start equipping their watches with a exhibition back. Only the Milgauss Submariner and Explorer lines should stay with a solid case back.
So if somebody can make the watch for under $1,000 and it's almost exactly as the other one; maybe the $30,000 watch is extremely overpriced.. food for thought
Real is an safe investment...fake is just for posers in night club in Vegas, who rent camry for few days to impress lovely ladies 🤷♂️
You think? The cost for Rolex to make their non precious metal watches is under $100 per watch, Submariners cost roughly 75$ for them to produce.
@@KevinHuff23$75-$100 is a cost of fake or real to make?
@@mariuszp4530 At this point,the real is real only by name.
@@KevinHuff23 the hands are white gold, they alone cost more than $100, and that’s on a stainless steel version
I watched this video with my wife and she loved the watch you are wearing. When I told her it was a Casio she said "oh, never mind then..." Now I can't convince her about how wrong she is to think that.
😂😂😂
Ooof im sorry
I would love to own a Rolex, and other respected brands, but right now I am wearing a $23 Casio dress watch I bought off of Amazon. I don't have to worry about it being fake, or being broken. That's the fun of Casio. They are good cheap beater watches that tell time for super low prices. Oh yea, google "rich people who wear casio watches" and you will have a good laugh.
Well there is always the option of finding another wife
@@MrTw2009 You don't get rich by wasting money on expensive watches. I should know, because I'm not rich...
I'm confused....watch channels keep showing these replicas...how good they are getting...but then say...don't buy these! Seems almost like an ad for these replicas
It's good education on the tells and it gets views for the creator.
It was an ad for the authentication services of the sponsor. Where do you think she got the replica from?
@@josenoventa6852 well that makes sense clears up my confusion 👍
Wow , after these video I learned that Rolex it’s overcharging for the same watch ! The difference can be seen with a microscope!!
You may see the difference, when you take a shower with a fake......
@@nguyenanhdung8139 You think they went to all this trouble to produce a nearly identical replica and then didn't waterproof it enough to hold up to a shower? Or do you think the (same) stainless steel bracelet is going to somehow discolor your skin? I don't understand what you're trying to say.
@@nguyenanhdung8139 Lol so wrong, most of them are waterproof already, and if they aren't just pay 20$ and get your rep waterproofed
@@nguyenanhdung8139 you be surprised ..most probably the genuine one will end braking ..I have seen it before.Overpriced watches is just a matter of showing off the money.Nothing can justify the price of that watch ..nothing besides vanity !
@@nguyenanhdung8139 really , I'm wearing a $3 Rolex submariner fake watch. Come to our country you'll find watches from $0.5 ... also I'm swimming with my $3 watch for more than 6 months and I had no battery change or nothing ... the watch is still working ....
The biggest tell is when your mate turns up wearing a £20000 watch when you know where they work.
Given the extremely long waitlist of getting a rolex sport watch, getting a fake one might not be a bad idea..
BINGO!!!!
I have the Swiss version SeaDweller, exactly 1-1 replica.
Even Rolex can't tell the difference, unless opened .
£1300
You have the cheap $700 version, try the $1800 Swiss made version.
Website ?need myself one too
Latest “fake” subs are made with OEM CNC. Go knock yourself out trying to find “flaws”. Dealers are admitting ‘clones’ are basically nearing complete assimilation.
Usually the differences can only be found in the polishing of the internals a few layers in. That's certainly not something a dealer would do to authenticate a watch. A worn watch would be really really hard to distinguish.
Yeah...we are in the same situation as "fake" diamonds. Fake diamonds are now so good that the "real" diamond industry wants the diamonds to be looked under an "electron" microscope to identify the "real" ones.
@@gurdeeps what fake diamonds you talkin about? moisanites? or lab diamonds? because lab diamonds are not fake or ''fake'' they re genuine. got me thinkin about spending money on labgems instead of mined blooddiamonds.
@@deathrager2404 Exactly my point. I was referring to artificial/lab diamonds. And yes I know they are real but the diamond industry still wants to differentiate them from the "real" ones.
@@gurdeeps my bad i didnt get that, because alot of people actually blindly follow whatever these filthy elites say. about everything. in terms of diamonds they need to stop supporting these mined diamonds. they re blood diamonds. end of story. people are fuckin dumb.
i tend to get quite some lab gems in a few as there is a lab in belgium and i live in the netherlands.