@@HighPriestFuneral Compare: "Hey, I was wrong: I made a mistake on line 7 at minute 8." With: "Because I'm an idiot without half a brain, I made a mistake..." See my point? Specially if you are selling your image to the public. You don't undermine yourself like that in your own TH-cam channel. Show some self love! (But I could also be wrong. We could all be wrong.)
Just want to say that i respect the hell out of you for crediting TCRF for your info gathering, most any other reviewer on yt wouldn't even hint at where they obtained the info they gathered, but you not only credit them at the very beginning of your video but even entice your viewers to visit TCRF themselves if they want to learn even more. That is incredibly admirable. Excellent vid bro.
I did so much work on the SMB3 side of things, kinda funny to hear some of my contributions. Like the named subroutine at 4:47 pertains to my disassembly. No idea how labels would've looked in Nintendo's official source back in the day, but I imagine they were far simpler. Pretty sure I was the first one to find the unused 2P stage with the coins, at least I never saw anyone talking about it elsewhere. Probably my biggest contribution was the full documentation of the bizarre scraps of the bonus games. Some things had already been known beforehand, but I really worked to try to salvage what little logic was remaining in there. Bonus game 7 is definitely the most fascinating one to me, because it feels like it may have been some kind of world map mechanic. Like you might wind up on completely separated paths potentially. Unfortunately the "landing zones" don't line up usefully on any map, so can't even guess where it may have been used. Also, despite whatever that glitch video was, I can promise there's really nothing left to find in the bonus games. I have all the documented disassembly code for anyone who wants to look into it. What's been shown here is definitely all that there is.
I appreciate that you've started crediting TCRF. Like, this isn't me taking shots, genuinely, after getting called out, you've decided to make that improvement. Good on you.
This is so incredibly thorough! Thank you so much for making this! I got this game right when it came out in North America for my 6th birthday and I'm sitting here, 40 years old and I'm STILL learning new info about the game! Crazy.
@41:42 I was WONDERING why you kept calling it "Goomba's Shoe"! 44 year-old here who loved SMB3 from the day they announced it on The Wizard, I've only ever known it as "Kuribo's Shoe" and never knew it to be called anything else.
13:11 0 lives is actually possible to display in the game. You game over when dying on 0 lives, not dying on 1 life. Also that image is used in the US boxart in higher quality and showing more
...and Japanese people would probably interpret "Koopa" as being pronounced "Koh-pah" with the O sound held for longer, since こ is romanized as "ko", Japanese puts linguistic significance on how long you hold on sounds (similar to how "penne" and "pene" are VERY different things in Italian), and that lengthened "o" is romanized variously as "koo", "kou", or "kō".
I remember the commercial for the US version back then. There was a ton of people gathering in a grassy field chanting "Mario, Mario, Mario..." with the camera panning out and that gathering formed Mario's face with the racoon ears that can be seen from space. It was bad ass. And then the move The Wizard debuted using the introduction of Mario 3 as the final challenge between 3 opponents. This was THE game that I never got a chance to play until 1993 and it was special and remained special up to date!
10:58 - I spent ages wondering where that screenshot came from! Although one minor correction: you/TCRF list that picture as an "early SMB3 box" image when in reality it's a later one. The original NA release of SMB3 had images of "1-1", underwater and toad's house, all using the proper HUD. The parabeetle screenshot wasn't used until the USA-1 box and as far as I can tell was used for all subsequent NTSC, PAL-A and PAL-B boxes until the NES' discontinuation. 13:03 - This pre-release world 1 map screen appears on some NA box variants as well as most, if not all, PAL-A and PAL-B boxes.
Honestly, the lack of adequate research in these videos is quite disappointing and makes these very hard to watch. Missing fundamental and basic facts makes a lot of this come off as lazy and poorly researched. Because most of the things wrong in this video could had have easily remedied by a quick google search or just by a single playthrough of the game. 0 lives is just how the game works normally and indicates your last life. When talking about the skull in the unused overworld tiles, it's claimed "there is no telling" of what it was, completely disregarding the fact that world 8 has tons of skulls in the overworld. Clearly and early version of those. Speaking world 8, that "stone" version of the donut block is indeed used in the beginning of Bowser's castle, the elevator platform that takes you up but the final gane uses a different color. In the beginning of the video, it claims that the original Super Mario Bros was released in 1983 when it was actually 1985. Clearly mixing up the years between the Mario Bros arcade and Super Mario Bros for the NES. The Super Mario World video also suffers from the same things. Many incorrect assessments and facts littered all throughout the video. I remember in the SMW video, it was claimed that SMW was the first appearance of the blue coin, despite it actually first appearaning in SMB3. These videos have so much potential but are really held down by these inconsistencies, false information and other discrepancies.
I got to play Unused level 6 (17:48) in 1996 using a Game Genie code I found randomly. However, I created the codes shown in the video much later using an emulator. I originally got my Game Genie in unlikely circumstances: as a gift from a friend of my mom who was a video game seller and had too many Game Genies (or so I'm told).
However, someone (David Wong?) told in the comments of another video that they were able to access that level *without* the Game Genie (maybe by swapping carts while the console was powered on, I can't remember), which I think was more impressive.
It would be great to see someone take on making a rom hack that restores and finishes all the (useful) unused content. Restore & complete the missing levels, make a few new levels using some of the unused backgrounds, tiles & textures, add in the missing frames of animation to Mario/Luigi on the overworld etc.
There are a few out there to have a play with, have a search for “Super Mario Bros. 3 Extended Edition” which has a lot of the unused content restored into the game.
And add the unused green para beetles and yellow cheep cheeps, and use some of the lesser used enemies in the game more frequently like the shoe goomba
36:07 that's actually not Mode 7, it's just a background layer on top of everything else. Mode 7 can do affine transformations like Translation, Scaling and Sheering
There's actually a bit more unused graphics that no one has noticed or found as well as a ton of more vanilla glitches that I have found while working on my hack for the last 7 years or so. I've sent these to the cutting room floor however they don't publish it for whatever reason. They are like no there can't be any more! There just can't be.. Well no one is perfect
My main takeaway from this is realizing that in many ways the Allstar version reverts to being the Japanese/Early revision version... except, mercifully, for not bumping you back to small Mario when you take a hit with a power-up.
I think the sliding with the hammer suit was just them handling that specific scenario. It may have been easier just to draw the sprite then overhaul the sliding mechanic.
I always wondered why game developers leave unused content in the games. Whether it’s graphics, sounds, or code, wouldn’t getting rid of it free up memory and resources?
I'm going to guess the Jelectros turning into coins means they were coded from Munchers or something. Munchers are also otherwise indestructible stationary hazards that turn into coins during a P Switch.
You forgot to mention the upside down pipe that is at the top of the sky in level 7-7. Since it will never be seen by the player because the level never scrolls up, even if you have a P-Wing. No one knows why that pipe is there. So it's a leftover. But why? What was it's purpose in the prototype? By the way... nice video! Thank you!
Object 0A resembles the screws that ended up in the final game's airship levels. Were you meant to push screws at one point? Objects 21, 22, 23 were meant to call "rebound off wall"--so like, during the vs bonus stages? The final game has cards representing these when you bop the other player, and they can be collected. Maybe they were originally meant to have different properties. Otherwise, we also know some very early versions of the game attempted to implement 2 players on the screen at the same time, so this might have been a similar mechanic that was later folded into the vs bonus game. "The status bar is displaying 0 lives which is not normally possible in the game..." Well, not for the JP release, but it was possible in the US release Unused skull tile - my first thought was for world 8, taking the place of the vehicle stages until they decided to replace them with unique graphics. Maybe could have indicated a miniboss, or bonus boss? Alternate wheels: Well you can tell right away why they weren't used. They eventually settled on a black background, so the black wheels and propeller covers weren't going to cut it, and likely didn't look good in any other color.
SMB3 is the most quality game on NES I know. And on most platforms. QUALITY. It's as pretty as it gets, colorful, uses the HW by the book and efficiently, controls are great. It is very well finished.
First Super Mario Bros Beta Recreation, then Super Mario World Beta Recreation and now we want Super Mario Bros 3 Beta Recreation (from GTV, Famimaga and Magazines Ads) Please.
So thankful that my first experience was beating the Japanese version in Christmas of '88. The Japanese version was way tougher but so worth it when I finally got to play the US version. I beat it the first day I got it. My friends thought I was the Wizard from the movie haha. No... just got lucky to have played the Japanese version first. Thanks for this video!
Kuppa is pronounced koopa, not cup-pa. Kuppa (Koopa) is Bowser's Japanese name. Koopa Troopers and Shell Creepers[?] (The mario brothers arcade koopas) I think are just called Turtles in Japanese.
In a feat of my negative IQ, I didn't manage to catch the error at 1:08 where I mispronounced "TCRF". Sorry about that!
Lmao, credit to me for pointing out first.
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Dude, don't undermine your work. Mistakes happen. But don't self deprecate like that! Specially if you're selling a brand/image on TH-cam.
@@juandager5220 I entirely disagree. People can be wrong and admit they are wrong. To not do so is just to draw further attention to it.
@@HighPriestFuneral
Compare:
"Hey, I was wrong: I made a mistake on line 7 at minute 8."
With:
"Because I'm an idiot without half a brain, I made a mistake..."
See my point? Specially if you are selling your image to the public. You don't undermine yourself like that in your own TH-cam channel. Show some self love! (But I could also be wrong. We could all be wrong.)
Just want to say that i respect the hell out of you for crediting TCRF for your info gathering, most any other reviewer on yt wouldn't even hint at where they obtained the info they gathered, but you not only credit them at the very beginning of your video but even entice your viewers to visit TCRF themselves if they want to learn even more. That is incredibly admirable. Excellent vid bro.
kudos to this guy for doing something cybershell has done years ago only due to backlash
@maximyllion Oh no he made a mistake and corrected it, can't believe humans aren't perfect.
this is the kind of positivity i needed today. thank you so much
I did so much work on the SMB3 side of things, kinda funny to hear some of my contributions. Like the named subroutine at 4:47 pertains to my disassembly. No idea how labels would've looked in Nintendo's official source back in the day, but I imagine they were far simpler. Pretty sure I was the first one to find the unused 2P stage with the coins, at least I never saw anyone talking about it elsewhere. Probably my biggest contribution was the full documentation of the bizarre scraps of the bonus games. Some things had already been known beforehand, but I really worked to try to salvage what little logic was remaining in there.
Bonus game 7 is definitely the most fascinating one to me, because it feels like it may have been some kind of world map mechanic. Like you might wind up on completely separated paths potentially. Unfortunately the "landing zones" don't line up usefully on any map, so can't even guess where it may have been used.
Also, despite whatever that glitch video was, I can promise there's really nothing left to find in the bonus games. I have all the documented disassembly code for anyone who wants to look into it. What's been shown here is definitely all that there is.
I appreciate that you've started crediting TCRF. Like, this isn't me taking shots, genuinely, after getting called out, you've decided to make that improvement. Good on you.
Nintendo: leaves out Yoshi due to NES limitations
Hummer Team: figures it out in their garage
This is so incredibly thorough! Thank you so much for making this! I got this game right when it came out in North America for my 6th birthday and I'm sitting here, 40 years old and I'm STILL learning new info about the game! Crazy.
Ah yes, blue, the color of your channel picture
THAT'S THE JOKE
@@dylanobrien3785 I know
That's purple
@@BRlCK_WALL i can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic, or you’re just colorblind
his second account is gmdred, guess its pfp color
Doesn't this guy sound like Badger from Breaking Bad?
I came here to make that comment, so yes.
was thinking this when i saw this comment lmao
Agreed
yes, bro literally sounds like one of the sweetest characters in that show
yeas
@41:42 I was WONDERING why you kept calling it "Goomba's Shoe"! 44 year-old here who loved SMB3 from the day they announced it on The Wizard, I've only ever known it as "Kuribo's Shoe" and never knew it to be called anything else.
I always call it kuribo because that's what the manual/power guide called it.
13:11 0 lives is actually possible to display in the game. You game over when dying on 0 lives, not dying on 1 life. Also that image is used in the US boxart in higher quality and showing more
also the caption says that it is "World 3" when it is World 1.
Also, you start at x4 because of this reason
Basically the same way as in SM64
You make really well edited content, and are great at narrating for such a small channel! I can't wait to see how awesome you're videos become!
small channel? ☠
40:53 that's because クッパ romanized normally would be "Kuppa", but the more common one is "Koopa"
Yup and its pronounced exactly the same way, not sure why this was even included lol
...and Japanese people would probably interpret "Koopa" as being pronounced "Koh-pah" with the O sound held for longer, since こ is romanized as "ko", Japanese puts linguistic significance on how long you hold on sounds (similar to how "penne" and "pene" are VERY different things in Italian), and that lengthened "o" is romanized variously as "koo", "kou", or "kō".
22:20 front facing frog mario looks like he's about to recite the navy seal copypasta and it's amazing LMAO
I would love to see you make videos of unused content from the NSMB games. I just find unused content really fascinating. Keep up the great work 👍
I remember the commercial for the US version back then. There was a ton of people gathering in a grassy field chanting "Mario, Mario, Mario..." with the camera panning out and that gathering formed Mario's face with the racoon ears that can be seen from space. It was bad ass. And then the move The Wizard debuted using the introduction of Mario 3 as the final challenge between 3 opponents. This was THE game that I never got a chance to play until 1993 and it was special and remained special up to date!
I really appreciate the photoshop recreations that you added for the behaviors that had no video or mockups
Bro sounds exactly like Badger from Breaking Bad, wtf
you always cover every aspect of the game with the topic of the video very in-depth, good job bro!
You don’t know how hyped I was to fall asleep to this video last night
10:58 - I spent ages wondering where that screenshot came from!
Although one minor correction: you/TCRF list that picture as an "early SMB3 box" image when in reality it's a later one. The original NA release of SMB3 had images of "1-1", underwater and toad's house, all using the proper HUD. The parabeetle screenshot wasn't used until the USA-1 box and as far as I can tell was used for all subsequent NTSC, PAL-A and PAL-B boxes until the NES' discontinuation.
13:03 - This pre-release world 1 map screen appears on some NA box variants as well as most, if not all, PAL-A and PAL-B boxes.
20:53 They actually did use the starry background a couple of times, an example being the underground area in 1-5 and a couple of others.
The Kuppa spelling is a direct translation of the Japanese way of spelling his name.
Honestly, the lack of adequate research in these videos is quite disappointing and makes these very hard to watch. Missing fundamental and basic facts makes a lot of this come off as lazy and poorly researched. Because most of the things wrong in this video could had have easily remedied by a quick google search or just by a single playthrough of the game. 0 lives is just how the game works normally and indicates your last life. When talking about the skull in the unused overworld tiles, it's claimed "there is no telling" of what it was, completely disregarding the fact that world 8 has tons of skulls in the overworld. Clearly and early version of those. Speaking world 8, that "stone" version of the donut block is indeed used in the beginning of Bowser's castle, the elevator platform that takes you up but the final gane uses a different color. In the beginning of the video, it claims that the original Super Mario Bros was released in 1983 when it was actually 1985. Clearly mixing up the years between the Mario Bros arcade and Super Mario Bros for the NES.
The Super Mario World video also suffers from the same things. Many incorrect assessments and facts littered all throughout the video. I remember in the SMW video, it was claimed that SMW was the first appearance of the blue coin, despite it actually first appearaning in SMB3.
These videos have so much potential but are really held down by these inconsistencies, false information and other discrepancies.
Why's your channel Icon red now? I guess you're gmdred now
his channel icon has always been red (the gd icons)
I got to play Unused level 6 (17:48) in 1996 using a Game Genie code I found randomly. However, I created the codes shown in the video much later using an emulator. I originally got my Game Genie in unlikely circumstances: as a gift from a friend of my mom who was a video game seller and had too many Game Genies (or so I'm told).
However, someone (David Wong?) told in the comments of another video that they were able to access that level *without* the Game Genie (maybe by swapping carts while the console was powered on, I can't remember), which I think was more impressive.
So they caught a single missing pixel in "World".... but completely *missed* that 'wonderful' spelling of "your" it seems..
they didnt "not fix anything for all stars" rather they used the original code for the all stars port which undid any of the revisional changes
It would be great to see someone take on making a rom hack that restores and finishes all the (useful) unused content. Restore & complete the missing levels, make a few new levels using some of the unused backgrounds, tiles & textures, add in the missing frames of animation to Mario/Luigi on the overworld etc.
There are a few out there to have a play with, have a search for “Super Mario Bros. 3 Extended Edition” which has a lot of the unused content restored into the game.
And add the unused green para beetles and yellow cheep cheeps, and use some of the lesser used enemies in the game more frequently like the shoe goomba
The curtain highlight bug mentioned at 7:40 works as expected but only at the end of the game, after getting the joke from the princess.
YIPPEEE! I was waiting for this one, already know it’s gonna be a great video.
This channel keeps popping up in my recommended and i love these videos!! I guess i gotta show appreciation and sub!
Simping hard huh?
@@denis2381?????
@@whoisezekiel2099 stop harassing me
The sliding with the hammer suit I use to do that back in 93.
I like how blue went from gd level showcases to a 30 min documentary about gd and others, video Maybe about tidal wave
Keep up the great work! I absolutely love content about unused game elements
37:05 I thought that animation is still present, but it's just for the frog, hammer and tanooki suit, right?
36:07 that's actually not Mode 7, it's just a background layer on top of everything else. Mode 7 can do affine transformations like Translation, Scaling and Sheering
Kuppa is actually the correct spelling. That's the correct official Japanese name. Koopa or Bowser are changes for the English version.
There's actually a bit more unused graphics that no one has noticed or found as well as a ton of more vanilla glitches that I have found while working on my hack for the last 7 years or so. I've sent these to the cutting room floor however they don't publish it for whatever reason. They are like no there can't be any more! There just can't be.. Well no one is perfect
Wait what are they? Can you make a video showcasing them? It would be cool so please do tell!
@@Soredli i've found like over 100 first frame errors, i never wrote them all down
@@doublebass1985 Oh, alright!
7:30 You do see the curtain with the white accent, but only at the end of the game for some reason. You even showed it at 2:00
I don't know why I didn't catch that. Thanks for telling me about it
@gmdblue did you move away from gd? Sorry if it bothers you to ask lol
My main takeaway from this is realizing that in many ways the Allstar version reverts to being the Japanese/Early revision version... except, mercifully, for not bumping you back to small Mario when you take a hit with a power-up.
1:37 "from the footage i found" bro its 2024 you can download an emulator, rom, and game genie code to test shit yourself
That's illegal you criminal!
These videos are very interesting and the commentary is very nice, new sub!
This video is very well documented! Keep doing what you’re doing
Oh cool, another video where you just use The Cutting Room Floor word for word as your script.
angery
😮 This game is so.. just. strange..
Thank you for this. Well done!
I think the sliding with the hammer suit was just them handling that specific scenario. It may have been easier just to draw the sprite then overhaul the sliding mechanic.
hay gmdblue are you still making part 4 of massive lost media iceberg explain?
love all the unused videoos, keep going
I always wondered why game developers leave unused content in the games. Whether it’s graphics, sounds, or code, wouldn’t getting rid of it free up memory and resources?
6:00 I think the saturation was increased with the unused palette, not just the blue
I think the "Back" minigame was a "reverse russian rulette" type of thing and probably how you'd find out the secret part of world 2
They got rid of the power up leaving Mario and falling off screen as to not confuse players who may think you can get the power up back.
I'm going to guess the Jelectros turning into coins means they were coded from Munchers or something. Munchers are also otherwise indestructible stationary hazards that turn into coins during a P Switch.
It’s like a Carl Wheezer ASMR experience listening to you talk passionately about cut content in SMB3, my dude. 😆
I would love to play that prototype of SMB3 one day.
The transparent curtains are seen at in the end credits.
You forgot to mention the upside down pipe that is at the top of the sky in level 7-7. Since it will never be seen by the player because the level never scrolls up, even if you have a P-Wing. No one knows why that pipe is there. So it's a leftover. But why? What was it's purpose in the prototype?
By the way... nice video! Thank you!
38:00 yo that's me
*Looks at the Yoshi concept art.* Ah yes, a “horse.”
anyone else noticed that contraish down jump that got cut out of the game at 10:00?
Good eye! This is an intriguing feature in the beta that I've never seen before.
5:42 just palette. is all games use every paletter? its desision palette they used white
You've evolved, now you're gmdred!
Object 0A resembles the screws that ended up in the final game's airship levels. Were you meant to push screws at one point?
Objects 21, 22, 23 were meant to call "rebound off wall"--so like, during the vs bonus stages? The final game has cards representing these when you bop the other player, and they can be collected. Maybe they were originally meant to have different properties. Otherwise, we also know some very early versions of the game attempted to implement 2 players on the screen at the same time, so this might have been a similar mechanic that was later folded into the vs bonus game.
"The status bar is displaying 0 lives which is not normally possible in the game..." Well, not for the JP release, but it was possible in the US release
Unused skull tile - my first thought was for world 8, taking the place of the vehicle stages until they decided to replace them with unique graphics. Maybe could have indicated a miniboss, or bonus boss?
Alternate wheels: Well you can tell right away why they weren't used. They eventually settled on a black background, so the black wheels and propeller covers weren't going to cut it, and likely didn't look good in any other color.
16:45 LADIES AMD GENTLEMEN; THE FIRST EVER TIMMY LEVEL
SMB3 is the most quality game on NES I know. And on most platforms. QUALITY. It's as pretty as it gets, colorful, uses the HW by the book and efficiently, controls are great. It is very well finished.
What happened to your pfp?
First Super Mario Bros Beta Recreation, then Super Mario World Beta Recreation and now we want Super Mario Bros 3 Beta Recreation (from GTV, Famimaga and Magazines Ads) Please.
Kuribo's Shoe is technically correct since Kuribo is Goomba's Japanese name.
what do you call those maps where you can see the entire stage??
So thankful that my first experience was beating the Japanese version in Christmas of '88. The Japanese version was way tougher but so worth it when I finally got to play the US version. I beat it the first day I got it. My friends thought I was the Wizard from the movie haha. No... just got lucky to have played the Japanese version first. Thanks for this video!
37:54 since you were talking about the japanese version of the game, you should have shown a Famicom instead of a NES with duck hunt 😅
Allora avevo visto giusto che quello era il tiro al piattello di Duck Hunt 😅
Maybe Object 05 was gonna be a Microgoomba wearing a Note Block?
So that means that All Stars was directly made from the original Japanese version instead of the International version
Can Mario carry a turtle shell underwater?
Man mario used to straigh up gamble on the beta bonus games
That’s a rather… unfortunate game genie code to say the least
Kuppa is pronounced koopa, not cup-pa.
Kuppa (Koopa) is Bowser's Japanese name.
Koopa Troopers and Shell Creepers[?] (The mario brothers arcade koopas) I think are just called Turtles in Japanese.
Does anyone ever tell you you sound like Badger from Breaking Bad?
Anyway - Subscribed.
Mario world is still peak but 3 is a close second
no
It looks like Mario shaved his moustache 12:00 👀
YESS ANOTHER UNUSED VIDEO! You should do Yoshis island
Lore of The Unused Content of Super Mario Bros 3 momentum 100
I believe that the skulls were used in world seven map
8:14 What? Wasn't it 1985?
17:10
it’s jesus.
i love your video, and i understand that ads give ya money, but the amount of ads on this video makes it unwatchable
Man, this is a great video.
I LOVE SMB3!!! PERFECT!!! ❤❤❤
liked and subscribed :) keep it up bro
Sounds like Ned Dorneget talking.
This is amazing ⭐
thanks alot ^^
27:28 *(20 years)
I love that you include the episode’s writer in your script :)
This was amazing 👍👍
evil gmdblue:
Badger is that you
1:29 what the fuck (look at the first three letters)
I'm loving the unused content vids
You sound like Badger from Breaking Bad
Unrelated: why did this guy stop doing gd content. Just curious