21 years experience as a trim carpenter. Ive used DeWalt miter saws a majority of that time. All worked flawlessly. I tried a Makita slider and I liked it at first but it simply did not last. After only a short time I had to raise the blade guard to get it to go down as it had become worn or bent. The Makita never had the ability to hold a miter or any kind of angle. it was Always sloping. You can read several reviews stating the same thing. Fruststrated with it I finally picked up the makita and tossed it as far as I could repeatedly on the concrete driveway of the house I was trimming and then put it in the dumpster where it belongs. Dewalt really got this right!! The laser on the makita does absolutely jack. It gets covered in dust and is only on one side of the blade so your cuts will still need to be adjusted
After researching both saws one of the criticisms I saw with the Makita was that the vertical rails would not stay in alignment causing inaccurate cuts. The Dewalt has been known to stay calibrated much better with its horizontal rails. Lasers like on the Makita are not known to be as accurate as the shadow line feature on the Dewalt. I did like the better clearance on the Makita. But accurate cuts were more important to me.
I have both saws and I would say value for money the Dewalt wins. The Makita is better for its space saving, but it costs more and has more downfalls. The main being the detent plate is aluminum so wears out fast with use. This a bigger deal to some more than others. you can buy an aftermarket for about $90 but the saw is currently almost $900 vs the Dewalt at $650 (got mine on sale for $499). I have calibrated my makita several times and it seems to come out of calibration a lot easier than the Dewalt. Makita wins on dust collection, not perfect but a great deal better than the Dewalt. The bevel function on the Makita seems better, being up front, but upon use its really annoying. I’m a trim carpenter, so cutting 1x8 baseboard all day when you have miters bigger than 45 on the Makita you have to unlock the bevel knob tip the saw, disengage the 45 detent, lock it in make the cut the to bevel right, unlock disengage the 90 bevel lock tip the saw, disengage the 45 detent find your angle and lock it. Whereas the Dewalt you just pull the 90 pin move the 45 and you can flip back and forth all day locking in on your desired angle. Dewalt is a great deal lighter which for me is nice but not a deal breaker. Accuracy is more important to me and I have found I spend a lot of time recalibrating the Makita which is wasted time on a Jobsite. The Dewalt seems To hold up to Jobsite abuse better than the Makita. The miter cam lock on the Dewalt is more convenient than the twist lock on the Makita. Shadow line is better than the laser but personally only use them to line up off angle cuts, I turn them off to cut to my pencil line. That said, if you have the budget for the Makita and the space is more valuable to you it’s a decent option so long as you know and accept its pitfalls. If it’s not moved daily it would probably stay truer than knocking around in the back of a van on commutes. That’s my 2 cents anyways.
If you are buying based on the price, dewalt is a clear winner. But we all going to keep our tools for many years to come, and makita will put the smile on your face every time you use it. So 10 years later, extra $200 is not that much. I was looking at the dewalt and ended up with makita for all the same reasons. Love it.
You made a good choice , I got the 40v 12" cordless version and it's a beast cuts any hardwood with ease and it's very accurate out of the box , had milwaukee which is the worst because I went trough 2 of them , dewalt is a good saw but the head had deflection even without sliding it out, of course every sliding mitre saw has that issue but I found the Makita is way less because of the design ( they kind a went festool kapex route) it's a heavy saw and the best stand for it if you are planning to take it to the field is the bosch gravity rice mitre saw stand , I also like the shadow cast line on mine , got it with 2 40v 4ah batteries and a rapid charger , on average the battery lasts about 4 -5 hours on moderate use but the battery can charge very fast so all you need is 2 batteries and will last you all day , I am very satisfied with the saw and I went through many mitre saws
I got the same model Makita a month or so ago and I've been putting it to good use. I love the soft start, and even the laser is useful for cutting framing material. I'd still manually align the blade for cabinet components. I did change the configuration of the dust ports by 3D printing a new lower adapter to allow for me to hook up a standard ShopVac hose and printed a plug for the top dust port. The top port still is connected to the lower one, it just evacuates from the lower one now instead of the top. The dust collection is a LOT better now.
I almost came to the comments to say that's a dumb reason to change saws, but if I'm being honest I've completely hated tools for even smaller reasons. From that point of view your decision is totally reasonable.
Muy buen video, gracias. Estuve a punto de comprar la Dewalt 780 en una tienda de Holanda, pero incrementaron el precio 300 Euros en el envío y la descarte. Buscando descubrí la mákita y sinceramente me fijé en 3 detalles: el primero es que la Makita tiene unas barras de deslizamiento en vertical. Lo segundo es más pesada que la Dewalt y creo que ha mayor peso más robusta. Y la tercera me fijé en que su plato central está rectificado. La cuestión es que llame a una tienda de Madrid y me hicieron un buen precio y esta tarde de viernes 19 de Abril la he comprado sin mirar muchos detalles más que algún vídeo cortando vigas de madera grandes, después de ver tu vídeo no me cabe la menor duda que es mejor máquina que la Dewalt y que he acertado al comprarla, tengo un proyecto para arreglar todo el techo de mi nave y hay mucho trabajo con madera. Te mando un saludo desde Valencia España.
I’ve used my DW708 steadily since 95’. Its a workhorse and easy to calibrate, but I’m ready to replace it with the Makita. Footprint and dust collection make it suit my needs better than a new Dewalt, and it’s price and depth of cut make it superior to the Kapex.
I have that Dewalt and I love it. It will become my jobsite saw. I will buy a 10 inch Makita for my shop for the same reason a lot of others do, it takes less space and space is critical to me.
Very nice review of both saws, IMHO if you dislike something about your tool, whatever that is, and you can find a tool that makes you happier, its equivalent to making the "money jobs" less stressful and the "hobby jobs" more enjoyable. Being happy with your tools, car, home and wife (not necessarily in THAT order) goes a looong way to keeping you sane and productive.👍
I just put out a video on a flip up workbench. Same mechanism and hardware I used on the miter saw. th-cam.com/video/SP_LdnVuUHs/w-d-xo.htmlsi=sII8HVYiklK-Oof1
After a year of use, have you noticed a difference in side to side deflection compared to the Dewalt? I ask because I am torn between which of these to purchase.
Just got the Dewalt. I had a 20 year old PC that had 2 laser lines that showed exactly where cut would be. I miss that. Not crazy about the jerky start of the dewalt but will adapt. Sounds like dewalt is better if you need to go past 45 degrees for tight miters. Mine is on a roller stand so depth not an issue but that would be a factor for most people. I was also considering the Bosch but no laser or shadow line which I didn’t like.
I have the DWS782. That's the non-light/laser version. Thing takes up a lot of real-estate. The thing that pissed me off with it is dust collection. When I finally found the correct adapter in the plumbing section and hooked up my shop vac, the front dust boot collapsed making the shop vac pointless. I ended up building an enclosure for it making the miter station huge.
I have the 780, and the blade has sideways play in it from when I bought it, I sent it back to Dewalt in Utah 2 times still has the wobble, piece of junk, I have owned about 6 sliding saws in past from Festool to Hitachi and Dewalt, never had a blade where the housing moves when you grab the bade and move it side to side. Does your have blade play in it?.
I have a DWS779 as well and have the same issues. The main reason why I bought the DWS779 was it had a good sliding distance which was important for me when I was repairing the outside wood trim on my house such as fascia boards and what some call “bird boxes” where the corners of your roof meet at a slope. Those require challenging long beveled and angled cuts and the DWS779 slide was long enough to make those cuts. The long slide of the DWS779 also came in handy for making long triangular cuts for the sloped platform for tool holders such as for jigsaws, oscillating saws, reciprocating saws, etc. My question about this Makita miter saw is this. Does it slide as far as the DWS779? If so I’m getting it. If not then I will continue to look for a miter saw with the same features as this Makita miter saw, but slides as long as the Dewalt.
Check the specs on the manufacturer's website to see what is important to you. I think the Makita will cut a slightly wider board than the DW. Dust collection is definitely better on the Makita. Overall they're very similar in capabilities it's just the difference in real estate that is a big difference.
The issue with the makita is that getting it square can be impossible. I had that problem and found videos that said to put a board between the two bars and loosen everything up and pry them in one direction to get it square. No matter how much I tried, I couldn’t get it square. So sold it and rebought the dewalt. The Delta and Bosch just had too much deflection for me.
I`ve noticed that there`s a little 1/4 of a degree play on the 45 to 0 pre settings on my resently purchached Makita. When adjusting, I lock the handle on only one side of that 1/4 play. I get true cuts , as long as I keep locking the handle to that one side.
Yes, I'm happy with it. I was also interested in the Bosch and the Delta Cruiser due to their compact size. Unfortunately none of the stores near me had them on display. Those arms look weird and I couldn't pull the trigger without touching them first.
Yeah for a permanent saw the Makita is definitely the way to go. I'm planning on buying one some day because my garage doesn't have much power in it. When I turn on any power tools the light flickers lol
As others have noted, the reports from users that the Mak blade is not parallel to the rails on their sample and cannot be adjusted has given me pause. While I lean toward Makita, I just cannot get those negative reports out of my head. Too many of them from different users. It saddens me that Makita continue to market this saw without remedying such a serious deficiency. While I have not yet committed, I am leaning heavily toward introducing a little yellow in with my currently all teal-coloured tools.
I had the 'curved cut' problem as well. Shouldn't happen with a $700 saw, but... Here is the simple fix. th-cam.com/video/4Ioa24818S4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=73YmHQggxb3HhHou
@@HouseDoctorRay Many thanks for that link. But, after watching it, and reading the comment section following it, I am pretty much decided against the Makita in favour of the Dewalt because of this persnickety rail alignment issue. The greater depth required to accommodate the rails and dust port on the Dewalt is not a factor for me.
Thanks for going over these as I have the dewalt and am considering switching to the Makita for this same reason. BUT... the biggest issue is the price... that Makita is almost double the DWS779... :(
I like everything about the Makita, except for the fences. I don't understand why they did that angled design. I'd rather have the option to slide the upper fence back out of the way of a bevel cut... instead of having to remove the entire fence & give up all that height.
Awesome video! I just sold my Cadillac DeWalt (DHS790 - same saw but it was corded and cordless) for the exact same reason. I moved it all over the place in my 500 square foot shop and it just takes a RIDICULOUS amount of space. I am trying to decide between the Makita and the Ridgid/Delta Cruzer (I hate lasers). What do you think of the saw after 4 months and does it have a lot of lateral play?
It's solid but just like the DW you *can* pull it to the side if you try. One problem that I had was a bowed cut. Found a fix for it. th-cam.com/video/4Ioa24818S4/w-d-xo.html
@@HouseDoctorRay My new Makita (LS1219L like yours) just arrived and wow I am loving the space saving design. I agree with you: it has the same amount of lateral deflection as the Dewalt. Wish it had the LED shadow light, but I simply don't use the laser and sight along the blade. I can shave a hair in half that way. I have not yet had a chance to really check it thoroughly. Thank you for the link to the bowed cut video. Hopefully mine won't do that, but if it does, I am prepared!
I have an older version of this dewalt. I think the table is worn at its rotation point or something. When I set the blade so it cuts square vertically (like cutting base standing up) its no longer square (plumb) when I swing the bed to a 45 degree
Maybe the pivot bolt is bent. There could also be a worn washer or dust packed in there. Take it apart, clean and lube while looking for worn/bent parts. th-cam.com/video/-IZQybYUMiM/w-d-xo.html&si=XMg3tRD7HDFjAjsV
@@HouseDoctorRay thank you! I just discovered that when the sliding fences are tightened they are not square to the bed. When I make a 90 degree cut it doesn't matter but once I slide to a 45 it compounds my out of square issue. The saw has been used a lot. I see some guys use after market fences on these. Do you know who makes them? Thanks again!!
No idea about the aftermarket fence. You could probably file the bottom of your fence to get it to sit right when tight. Check out some of Finish Carpentry TV videos. He has a lot of DW saws and aftermarket gadgets.
Makita is a no brainer if you want to set it on the counter with the wall behind it. However, I think Dewalt is a better over all saw with more user friendly controls. XPS on the 780 is a game changer. I use my miter saw clamped down to a folding table or with the rolling stand so the room behind it is irrelevant.
I have the DeWalt and love it, but there is one reason I am looking for another miter saw. That reason is the depth of the saw. I built a new garage with a third of it will be a wood shop. I plan on building a new work bench/cabinet for the miter saw. My DeWalt is so large (depth wise) that I would have to build it so wide! So I am considering the Makita. There two issue with the Makita; it has a laser instead of a drop shadow for marking the cut. I like the shadow much better! For the second issue I have heard that the Makita doesn't hold a true cut, you have to adjust for true cuts too often! Any thoughts on the accuracy of your new Makita?
It's ok. I haven't used it that much. Some of them have a bow in the cut line along the rails. There is a way to adjust it but it's neanderthal. I worry about the Bosch and Delta Cruiser mechanism which is why I went Makita. After I tweaked everything it seems solid. There is a simple way to add the shadow line to the Bosch; just search TH-cam. There is also Metabo and Kapex.
The biggest problem I have with the dewalt is the dust collection feature. Terrible. I will look into the makita and if it is has a good dust collector I will buy it.
I’m looking for a saw also. For me, the slide style is important for wider rips and better grooving for joinery. Accuracy and repeatability is key for me. Looking at the Bosch style linkage system, there seems to be a stiffness issue parallel to the joints. In other words, it looks like it would deflect easily in the fully pulled out position. The plastic detent latch system is also a concern. I’m going with either the 780 (it’s more than just the feature set above the 779, I believe the internal components like motor and bearings are superior quality), or this Makita. The only thing I don’t like about the Makita is the fence doesn’t slide out. It has to be removed for miters which makes cutting nested crown more difficult… but you can build a jig for that.
With the Makita you don't need to remove the fences for miters. You only need them to come off if you bevel the saw. Spoiler: he likes the Makita over the Bosch. th-cam.com/video/VOkV4IKevhc/w-d-xo.html
@@HouseDoctorRay - I just realized that. So, when cutting large crown nested, you don’t need to remove the fence as you are just mitering. That makes sense. However, I’ve read a lot about a “cupping” issue on cuts due to the rails not being parallel from factory? Apparently there is no fix for this. Have you experienced it? Is the deflection on the Makita at full extension less than the Dewalt 780? It seems it would be as the bearings slide within the head leaving less “moment arm” from any “slop” as long as rails themselves don’t flex.
I have that saw - I LOVE IT!!!!!!! I have had both and much prefer the Makita. I came from a large cabinet shop with over a dozen chop saws, Dewalts, Bosh, and one Makita. We replace the Bosch and Dewalts once a year. The Makita is at least 5 years old and it stil performs perfectly.
Replace the dewalts Once a year? Y'all must be throw them things off tables and playing dodge ball with them. I've been using my 779 everyday for 20plus years and my 780 at home I use alot as well. We use alot of 779s and 780s in our shop never had one to fail.
I am about to part ways with my longtime DELTA Miter saw which has been mounted to a DEWALT Miter Table. I was going to replace it with the DWS779 which is on its way to my house from HD as I am writing this comment. Subsequent to your review; I came up with Seven Unique Features that the Makita possesses by comparison to the DEWALT which more than offset the U.S. price difference of $166 between the two saws without added taxes and S/H. I was a bit apprehensive about return the DW779 despite of your great side-by-side comparison video due to my existing DW table. Therefore? To the best of your knowledge? Can the MAKITA be clamped to the Dewalt Miter Saw Table? I'll understand if you do not have an answer on that. Cheers!
Im a high end finish carpenter and I love using the Makita. I am going to buy my own, and I used your link, but Im sad to see that they seem to have done away with the nice deck extensions. now its just a cheap bent bar. Meh!!! I cant believe you were talking about taking them off. Why would you? well Im on site all the time, and Im guessing you will mostly be working at a home shop. I can see how they could be obsolete sitting on a bench with a off feed tables. Maybe you can sell me yours!!! lol
In all fairness these types of saws are designed to be placed on a stand and used on a job site, they were never designed as a workshop tool. I see so many people moaning about mitresaws in the workshop, you have a table saw? I suggest using that with a sliding attachment instead.
@@HouseDoctorRay that’s true, but how often are you doing that and even then it’s not something that requires absolute precision so a hand saw would suffice like the old boys used for hundreds of years 👍
Sorry, I’ve misinterpreted your answer, baseboard here in the UK is called skirting board. But to answer your question a mitre saw is ideal for that job but you would take it onsite with you as near to the installation as possible and away from the workshop so a stand as close as possible to the room you are fitting skirting in would be ideal. 👍
@@HouseDoctorRayglad your enjoying the saw.. space saveer is a good feature. I do own festool track saw. Think kapex is about £1300 so over double the price.. im looking online at the makita some dont have the aluminium extension arms just thin metal which i dont want.. i need to call tomorrow to find out which saw they are selling how did you know which one your were buying..
@@johno-gb7ci I actually spoke to a Festool rep yesterday from Germany. Im based in Ireland and as in the UK on site we tend to use 110 tranny's for safety. The rep advised me it would be best to use a 5KVA transformer for best use of a 110 Kapex which would be a no due to the tranny weight. It would be like carrying a small engine around. While he didnt exactly say outright the motor may give issues he did advise with a sound of wink wink nudge nudge that it wouod cause prohblems. From reading a few posts online the Kapex motor seems to have issues even with the new upgrade to the REB model.A supplier who services Festool in Dublin also advised the 110 version has a lot of issues with motors and advised to purchase 230 Volt or I would be back within a year for a new motor. Or to buy the Kapex KSC 60.The only issue with the KSC 60 is it only cuts 20 mm when comounding to the right. Tried it and a nice saw for small light use. Just out of curiosity did you buy the Makita in the end and how is it?
Looks like the Makita has some decent features. I have the DeWalt 780 and quite like it, however I'm not concerned about the depth of the saw since I use it on a separate stand away from the wall. One thing I noticed in your video was at around the 9:10 minute mark. I was surprised by the amount of vertical flex/deflection when you pulled the saw towards the front. It looks to be at least 1/32" deflection, which would be a problem if you're trying to limit the depth of cut evenly through your work piece. Other than that, it looks like an OK saw. I'd be interested to see a follow up video from you once you have used it a bit more ... especially on dust collection. That's the one area that the DeWalt is weak on.
How could DeWalt, who's been the miter saw refetence, have let itself distanced so much by Makita... The new sliding setup was such an obvious thing to do.
First although it was too simplistic in the beginning you eventually got to the part where I have been searching to see. That was the grooving feature. The manual doesn't cover it well. Dewalt is pretty smart. Why make it fit small applications when they can sell you one of three saw stands. I have the DEWALT Miter Saw Stand, Collapsible and Portable, Holds Up to 300 lbs (DWX726) because I must move my saw outside to cut. My shop has so much equipment there is no room for it inside. As far as was it the right choice...to me it's six of one and half a dozen of the other. The more important thing is will it work for what you want it to do and will it last the same amount of lifetime.
I had the stand for the DW which is why I had the adapters bolted to the bottom. It was definitely a good setup but since I'm only working at home now I needed the more compact saw. Now nicer weather is coming and I'm going to miss being able to put the saw on the stand outside. I may buy a stand for the Makita.
@@HouseDoctorRay in my case I got my saw in 2016 for about $250 at an auction. I would have liked to pay less, but those Amish farmers are tough competition.
Great review. I have the Dewalt, agree with your points. I have since seen the Bosch saw that has an interesting slide mechanism. One of the popular boat builder TH-cam guys uses one and it appears to take up even less depth.
@@HouseDoctorRay Whether it is true or not, I saw more than one person on you tube with the Bosch, either complain about, or replace the Bosch because they developed play in the arm with use. I am a fan of the Bosch tools I have but I did not move in the direction of their saw due to that. My kids got me the DWS779 for Christmas 2021 to replace my older Miter Saw. And I was building my miter station and got to the part of depth from wall in my design phase...now I am stuck. What do you do now? I have a small shop with space as a premium and kids asking me how I am liking it.
Bummer dude. I was lucky enough to sell mine when you couldn't get the DW this summer. Yeah the Makita is more money but the space saving is worth it in my shop.
@@HouseDoctorRay i think you made the right choice going to the makita. Especially if it suits your needs better and you like it better. Also, i love how you made the folding station with storage, thats really sweet. I got the 10" metabo hpt 36v sliding dual bevel. I cant believe how light and compact it is. I know its a 10" vs a 12", but its still way more compact than expected. Just as compact as a none sliding because it has the same sliding style as this one so it can go right up tight to a wall. It comes with an adapter so its corded, or you can get batteries if you need to run it cordless. For some reason lowes was having a crazy sale on it so i got it for like $269 and its a $600-650 saw. Has a laser and typical features. Pretty easy to operate with all the locks, miter, and bevel adjustments. Super smooth sliding and has the soft start and i think even quicker blade stop/brake when you release the trigger. The one thing i dont like is i dont get to use it enough cause im a hobbiest and havent had many projects i needed it haha. That new sliding design with the Bosch does seem pretty cool, but i did feel like it was going to end up not as stable or accurate as it aged. I like the forward slide bars that keep it tight to the wall like ours better. Just seems much more reliable with less moving parts to wear and fail. Great review BTW. Very in depth
I looked at the Metabo but the one on display was banged up and sloppy. I wasn't sure if it was just beat up or poorly made. Glad to hear it's a good tool. The only Metabo I have is an angle grinder and it's great.
Me watching is an example of whats missing on politics in the US. Lol. I own dewalt and still watching head to head videos even if mine turns out to be worse. I own the 780 and havent seen any issues you showed so maybe theyre different more than others 3 years ago said Oh they sell a mikita i think that has angles arms so it can be smaller on benches.
Middle of video, is that the 779 because the new 779 doesnt have that lock for stopping the slide. Has the knob but not the lock. Man they changed alot simce this vodeo was done
@@HouseDoctorRay what bothers me is how many changes they've made since these 3 year old videos came out. Like sooooo many. Some great. Some crappy as far as replacing 779 parts with crappier parts and less stuff. Like they had two similar tools and downgraded one to create the price difference that didn't make sense before lol
That's regular price for the Makita! I paid similar for my DW a few years back with the stand. Still happier with the Makita. That DW stand is pretty sweet; light and sturdy.
The Makita appears to not have a belt. It must have a gearbox of some sort because the motor is mounted at an angle. That being said I've not heard of any problems with the DW belt drive.
It's a commercial saw. Not made really for standard benches. Why Dewalt makes a stand for it. It's like parking a Cadillac in a dog house, doghouse wasn't designed for a Cadillac
Not sure I totally agree with you but I will say the DW was fine while I was traveling. I just didn't have the room once I parked in my garage. The Makita is a bit heavier than the DW.
@@HouseDoctorRay I was choosing between makita and dewlt 780. Liked makita because of all things you have mentioned, but then i've found several video where guys showing that makita doing about 0.3-0.5 mm curve in the middle , when cutting on a maximum wide
I bet he's back on the DeWalt by now , Makita no longer has the quality since the move to Chinese manufacturing. If a Makita has a silver base it's garbage. Old yellow base is definitely a excellent tool .new silver base saws are garbage 😭
I found mine went out of square easily. Also say if you have a deep cut deeper than the extension of the saw and you have to flip the piece over the cut doesn't match up
Makita = Meh. $1400 later and the blade wobbles horribly out of the box, dust collection with bag is a joke, when extended fully toward you, the handle/blade move left/right enough to double the blade width. For the money, I had much higher expectations. And, the 4ah battery it came with only lasts about 50 cuts. Just enough to cut vinyl flooring in a 4x10 closet. Pretty sad.
The one i bought had the shadow line - returned that turd and went to a dewalt 60v with the same - much better - though again, for the money, disappointing that i had to adjust for square right away. . . @@HouseDoctorRay
If I had the room I would've kept the DW. It was great and accurate just took up too much room. I agree the Makita is overpriced but the Bosch and Delta cruiser made me nervous with those crazy arms.
The price difference is pretty huge. Easy to find the dewalt for $399 where as the Makita ranges from $650-900. I like the makita better but I’d rather save the money and get the dewalt.
Since you asked: I used it for work when I traveled along with the DW stand. I no longer travel and just work on stuff in my garage. I'm not going to build a 3' deep bench just for a saw. So I got rid of it and bought one that fits.
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21 years experience as a trim carpenter. Ive used DeWalt miter saws a majority of that time. All worked flawlessly. I tried a Makita slider and I liked it at first but it simply did not last. After only a short time I had to raise the blade guard to get it to go down as it had become worn or bent. The Makita never had the ability to hold a miter or any kind of angle. it was Always sloping. You can read several reviews stating the same thing. Fruststrated with it I finally picked up the makita and tossed it as far as I could repeatedly on the concrete driveway of the house I was trimming and then put it in the dumpster where it belongs. Dewalt really got this right!! The laser on the makita does absolutely jack. It gets covered in dust and is only on one side of the blade so your cuts will still need to be adjusted
I don't use the Makita daily so hopefully it will last longer for me. I would've kept the DeWalt but I just didn't have the room.
Are you using a dewalt Dws780 now or a older 779?
After researching both saws one of the criticisms I saw with the Makita was that the vertical rails would not stay in alignment causing inaccurate cuts. The Dewalt has been known to stay calibrated much better with its horizontal rails. Lasers like on the Makita are not known to be as accurate as the shadow line feature on the Dewalt. I did like the better clearance on the Makita. But accurate cuts were more important to me.
I have both saws and I would say value for money the Dewalt wins. The Makita is better for its space saving, but it costs more and has more downfalls. The main being the detent plate is aluminum so wears out fast with use. This a bigger deal to some more than others. you can buy an aftermarket for about $90 but the saw is currently almost $900 vs the Dewalt at $650 (got mine on sale for $499). I have calibrated my makita several times and it seems to come out of calibration a lot easier than the Dewalt. Makita wins on dust collection, not perfect but a great deal better than the Dewalt.
The bevel function on the Makita seems better, being up front, but upon use its really annoying. I’m a trim carpenter, so cutting 1x8 baseboard all day when you have miters bigger than 45 on the Makita you have to unlock the bevel knob tip the saw, disengage the 45 detent, lock it in make the cut the to bevel right, unlock disengage the 90 bevel lock tip the saw, disengage the 45 detent find your angle and lock it. Whereas the Dewalt you just pull the 90 pin move the 45 and you can flip back and forth all day locking in on your desired angle. Dewalt is a great deal lighter which for me is nice but not a deal breaker. Accuracy is more important to me and I have found I spend a lot of time recalibrating the Makita which is wasted time on a Jobsite. The Dewalt seems To hold up to Jobsite abuse better than the Makita. The miter cam lock on the Dewalt is more convenient than the twist lock on the Makita. Shadow line is better than the laser but personally only use them to line up off angle cuts, I turn them off to cut to my pencil line.
That said, if you have the budget for the Makita and the space is more valuable to you it’s a decent option so long as you know and accept its pitfalls. If it’s not moved daily it would probably stay truer than knocking around in the back of a van on commutes. That’s my 2 cents anyways.
Thank you for this excellent post. If I were still traveling I would have definitely stayed with the DeWalt.
If you are buying based on the price, dewalt is a clear winner. But we all going to keep our tools for many years to come, and makita will put the smile on your face every time you use it. So 10 years later, extra $200 is not that much.
I was looking at the dewalt and ended up with makita for all the same reasons.
Love it.
Facts! I was lucky enough to sell my DW for almost what I paid for it.
@@HouseDoctorRay it’s not luck, supply and demand.
You made a good choice , I got the 40v 12" cordless version and it's a beast cuts any hardwood with ease and it's very accurate out of the box , had milwaukee which is the worst because I went trough 2 of them , dewalt is a good saw but the head had deflection even without sliding it out, of course every sliding mitre saw has that issue but I found the Makita is way less because of the design ( they kind a went festool kapex route) it's a heavy saw and the best stand for it if you are planning to take it to the field is the bosch gravity rice mitre saw stand , I also like the shadow cast line on mine , got it with 2 40v 4ah batteries and a rapid charger , on average the battery lasts about 4 -5 hours on moderate use but the battery can charge very fast so all you need is 2 batteries and will last you all day , I am very satisfied with the saw and I went through many mitre saws
Thanks for the info. Nice post.
I got the same model Makita a month or so ago and I've been putting it to good use. I love the soft start, and even the laser is useful for cutting framing material. I'd still manually align the blade for cabinet components. I did change the configuration of the dust ports by 3D printing a new lower adapter to allow for me to hook up a standard ShopVac hose and printed a plug for the top dust port. The top port still is connected to the lower one, it just evacuates from the lower one now instead of the top. The dust collection is a LOT better now.
Interesting. I'll experiment with a rag for the top and some tape on the bottom and see how it goes.
I got so much more out of this video than the instruction booklet can ever give me. Thank you sir!
Thank you Dan and thanks for watching.
I almost came to the comments to say that's a dumb reason to change saws, but if I'm being honest I've completely hated tools for even smaller reasons. From that point of view your decision is totally reasonable.
Muy buen video, gracias. Estuve a punto de comprar la Dewalt 780 en una tienda de Holanda, pero incrementaron el precio 300 Euros en el envío y la descarte. Buscando descubrí la mákita y sinceramente me fijé en 3 detalles: el primero es que la Makita tiene unas barras de deslizamiento en vertical.
Lo segundo es más pesada que la Dewalt y creo que ha mayor peso más robusta.
Y la tercera me fijé en que su plato central está rectificado. La cuestión es que llame a una tienda de Madrid y me hicieron un buen precio y esta tarde de viernes 19 de Abril la he comprado sin mirar muchos detalles más que algún vídeo cortando vigas de madera grandes, después de ver tu vídeo no me cabe la menor duda que es mejor máquina que la Dewalt y que he acertado al comprarla, tengo un proyecto para arreglar todo el techo de mi nave y hay mucho trabajo con madera.
Te mando un saludo desde Valencia España.
I’ve used my DW708 steadily since 95’. Its a workhorse and easy to calibrate, but I’m ready to replace it with the Makita. Footprint and dust collection make it suit my needs better than a new Dewalt, and it’s price and depth of cut make it superior to the Kapex.
I still would get the DeWalt, I’ll just stick it in the middle of the room on an island. 😂
Same here. Those are really meant to be used with the rolling stands
No you won't. I already did that with the DeWalt. Drove me crazy 🙂
I have that Dewalt and I love it. It will become my jobsite saw. I will buy a 10 inch Makita for my shop for the same reason a lot of others do, it takes less space and space is critical to me.
That's a big saw to be carrying around!
It’s the last 3 min I appreciate. Nice job with the cabinet.
Very nice review of both saws, IMHO if you dislike something about your tool, whatever that is, and you can find a tool that makes you happier, its equivalent to making the "money jobs" less stressful and the "hobby jobs" more enjoyable. Being happy with your tools, car, home and wife (not necessarily in THAT order) goes a looong way to keeping you sane and productive.👍
Thank you. Your comments are spot on.
Wonderful comparison and you been quite reasonable with the explanation. Keep up the good work of working and sharing your thoughts.
Thank you for the kind words.
You got to do a video on that flip up miter bench. That’s one of the best ideas I’ve seen in a long time.
I recorded a bunch of video when I built it. I'll look to see if I have enough.
I just put out a video on a flip up workbench. Same mechanism and hardware I used on the miter saw.
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After a year of use, have you noticed a difference in side to side deflection compared to the Dewalt? I ask because I am torn between which of these to purchase.
I'm not a daily user but so far so good. The dust collection is a little better on the Makita.
For me the size was big factor.
I like the hide away saw table. That’s “genius”. Thank you for the review
Thank you.
Just got the Dewalt. I had a 20 year old PC that had 2 laser lines that showed exactly where cut would be. I miss that. Not crazy about the jerky start of the dewalt but will adapt. Sounds like dewalt is better if you need to go past 45 degrees for tight miters. Mine is on a roller stand so depth not an issue but that would be a factor for most people. I was also considering the Bosch but no laser or shadow line which I didn’t like.
I have the DWS782. That's the non-light/laser version. Thing takes up a lot of real-estate. The thing that pissed me off with it is dust collection. When I finally found the correct adapter in the plumbing section and hooked up my shop vac, the front dust boot collapsed making the shop vac pointless. I ended up building an enclosure for it making the miter station huge.
Look around for aftermarket solutions. There are so many of those saws in use someone has to make something.
I have the 780, and the blade has sideways play in it from when I bought it, I sent it back to Dewalt in Utah 2 times still has the wobble, piece of junk, I have owned about 6 sliding saws in past from Festool to Hitachi and Dewalt, never had a blade where the housing moves when you grab the bade and move it side to side. Does your have blade play in it?.
It didn't, but I no longer have it.
I have the same song you got and I hate it on the workbench thinking about getting a different one I think you made the right decision
It's been great so far. The Bosch made me nervous with those crazy arms but it gets good reviews.
Great choice. Same concerns as you. I’ll be going with the same.
Great minds think alike.
I have a DWS779 as well and have the same issues. The main reason why I bought the DWS779 was it had a good sliding distance which was important for me when I was repairing the outside wood trim on my house such as fascia boards and what some call “bird boxes” where the corners of your roof meet at a slope. Those require challenging long beveled and angled cuts and the DWS779 slide was long enough to make those cuts. The long slide of the DWS779 also came in handy for making long triangular cuts for the sloped platform for tool holders such as for jigsaws, oscillating saws, reciprocating saws, etc.
My question about this Makita miter saw is this. Does it slide as far as the DWS779? If so I’m getting it. If not then I will continue to look for a miter saw with the same features as this Makita miter saw, but slides as long as the Dewalt.
Check the specs on the manufacturer's website to see what is important to you. I think the Makita will cut a slightly wider board than the DW. Dust collection is definitely better on the Makita.
Overall they're very similar in capabilities it's just the difference in real estate that is a big difference.
The issue with the makita is that getting it square can be impossible. I had that problem and found videos that said to put a board between the two bars and loosen everything up and pry them in one direction to get it square. No matter how much I tried, I couldn’t get it square. So sold it and rebought the dewalt. The Delta and Bosch just had too much deflection for me.
I`ve noticed that there`s a little 1/4 of a degree play on the 45 to 0 pre settings on my resently purchached Makita. When adjusting, I lock the handle on only one side of that 1/4 play. I get true cuts , as long as I keep locking the handle to that one side.
I'm currently thinking about buying the Makita are you still happy with your purchase now that you've had some time to play with it
Yes, I'm happy with it. I was also interested in the Bosch and the Delta Cruiser due to their compact size. Unfortunately none of the stores near me had them on display. Those arms look weird and I couldn't pull the trigger without touching them first.
Yo, your finished table saw station at the end is a serious flex!! 💪😂 Genius, all of it!
Dewalt does not care about your wall.😂 great video
The Makita looks good. I've never had that problem with the DeWalt though. I just put in on a stand
It is great with the stand, (you can see the brackets on the saw) but I don't travel anymore so I wanted something more permanent.
Yeah for a permanent saw the Makita is definitely the way to go. I'm planning on buying one some day because my garage doesn't have much power in it. When I turn on any power tools the light flickers lol
The soft start is sweet.
Sliding mitarsaw for almuniyam work is GOOD or bad
As others have noted, the reports from users that the Mak blade is not parallel to the rails on their sample and cannot be adjusted has given me pause. While I lean toward Makita, I just cannot get those negative reports out of my head. Too many of them from different users. It saddens me that Makita continue to market this saw without remedying such a serious deficiency. While I have not yet committed, I am leaning heavily toward introducing a little yellow in with my currently all teal-coloured tools.
I had the 'curved cut' problem as well. Shouldn't happen with a $700 saw, but...
Here is the simple fix.
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@@HouseDoctorRay Many thanks for that link. But, after watching it, and reading the comment section following it, I am pretty much decided against the Makita in favour of the Dewalt because of this persnickety rail alignment issue. The greater depth required to accommodate the rails and dust port on the Dewalt is not a factor for me.
Plus you can use the $300 savings for other stuff.
@@terrydanksDid you buy dewalt.. that's what seems more reliable from research
Thanks for going over these as I have the dewalt and am considering switching to the Makita for this same reason. BUT... the biggest issue is the price... that Makita is almost double the DWS779... :(
I hear you. I just didn't have the room for the DW. Luckily I was able to sell it for a decent price.
I like everything about the Makita, except for the fences. I don't understand why they did that angled design. I'd rather have the option to slide the upper fence back out of the way of a bevel cut... instead of having to remove the entire fence & give up all that height.
Yeah, big drawback.
Awesome video! I just sold my Cadillac DeWalt (DHS790 - same saw but it was corded and cordless) for the exact same reason. I moved it all over the place in my 500 square foot shop and it just takes a RIDICULOUS amount of space. I am trying to decide between the Makita and the Ridgid/Delta Cruzer (I hate lasers). What do you think of the saw after 4 months and does it have a lot of lateral play?
It's solid but just like the DW you *can* pull it to the side if you try. One problem that I had was a bowed cut. Found a fix for it.
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@@HouseDoctorRay My new Makita (LS1219L like yours) just arrived and wow I am loving the space saving design. I agree with you: it has the same amount of lateral deflection as the Dewalt. Wish it had the LED shadow light, but I simply don't use the laser and sight along the blade. I can shave a hair in half that way. I have not yet had a chance to really check it thoroughly. Thank you for the link to the bowed cut video. Hopefully mine won't do that, but if it does, I am prepared!
I have an older version of this dewalt. I think the table is worn at its rotation point or something. When I set the blade so it cuts square vertically (like cutting base standing up) its no longer square (plumb) when I swing the bed to a 45 degree
Maybe the pivot bolt is bent. There could also be a worn washer or dust packed in there. Take it apart, clean and lube while looking for worn/bent parts.
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@@HouseDoctorRay thank you! I just discovered that when the sliding fences are tightened they are not square to the bed. When I make a 90 degree cut it doesn't matter but once I slide to a 45 it compounds my out of square issue. The saw has been used a lot. I see some guys use after market fences on these. Do you know who makes them? Thanks again!!
No idea about the aftermarket fence. You could probably file the bottom of your fence to get it to sit right when tight.
Check out some of Finish Carpentry TV videos. He has a lot of DW saws and aftermarket gadgets.
The makita looks like a beast of a saw! I love my 779, but think you made a good swap!
I would've kept my DW if it wasn't so big.
Love the video! By any chance to you have plans or pictures of that fold down table? Thanks.
Thank you. I did shoot some video while I was building it. Maybe I have enough to put something together.
@@HouseDoctorRay I'll second this request and hope you make a video on the folding storage cabinet for the Makita. Thanks in advance!
Makita is a no brainer if you want to set it on the counter with the wall behind it. However, I think Dewalt is a better over all saw with more user friendly controls. XPS on the 780 is a game changer. I use my miter saw clamped down to a folding table or with the rolling stand so the room behind it is irrelevant.
Even though the Makita comes with a laser I may try an add a shadow light. I've only heard good things about them.
Dewalt 780 for 500 bucks last weekend. And I like shadow line
Nice! U stole that thing! Where did you get it for 500?
Lowes and HD both had it on sale before Christmas. You only have to wait 10 months.
Acme tools. Must have been a Christmas thing 599 now
That latch is not for storage and transporting. It sets the slide at an the optimal height to cut crown molding.
Guess I should have read the manual. Thanks for for letting me know.
I have the DeWalt and love it, but there is one reason I am looking for another miter saw. That reason is the depth of the saw. I built a new garage with a third of it will be a wood shop. I plan on building a new work bench/cabinet for the miter saw. My DeWalt is so large (depth wise) that I would have to build it so wide! So I am considering the Makita. There two issue with the Makita; it has a laser instead of a drop shadow for marking the cut. I like the shadow much better! For the second issue I have heard that the Makita doesn't hold a true cut, you have to adjust for true cuts too often! Any thoughts on the accuracy of your new Makita?
It's ok. I haven't used it that much. Some of them have a bow in the cut line along the rails. There is a way to adjust it but it's neanderthal.
I worry about the Bosch and Delta Cruiser mechanism which is why I went Makita. After I tweaked everything it seems solid.
There is a simple way to add the shadow line to the Bosch; just search TH-cam.
There is also Metabo and Kapex.
Really appreciate this video!
Thank you.
The biggest problem I have with the dewalt is the dust collection feature. Terrible. I will look into the makita and if it is has a good dust collector I will buy it.
It's better than the DeWalt, not perfect, but better.
What do you think of the BOSCH zero clearance one.
If you're talking about the Bosch Glide it seems well built. It was all strapped down at HD so I couldn't get a feel for how it swung and beveled.
I’m looking for a saw also. For me, the slide style is important for wider rips and better grooving for joinery. Accuracy and repeatability is key for me.
Looking at the Bosch style linkage system, there seems to be a stiffness issue parallel to the joints. In other words, it looks like it would deflect easily in the fully pulled out position. The plastic detent latch system is also a concern.
I’m going with either the 780 (it’s more than just the feature set above the 779, I believe the internal components like motor and bearings are superior quality), or this Makita.
The only thing I don’t like about the Makita is the fence doesn’t slide out. It has to be removed for miters which makes cutting nested crown more difficult… but you can build a jig for that.
With the Makita you don't need to remove the fences for miters. You only need them to come off if you bevel the saw.
Spoiler: he likes the Makita over the Bosch.
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@@HouseDoctorRay - I just realized that. So, when cutting large crown nested, you don’t need to remove the fence as you are just mitering. That makes sense.
However, I’ve read a lot about a “cupping” issue on cuts due to the rails not being parallel from factory? Apparently there is no fix for this.
Have you experienced it? Is the deflection on the Makita at full extension less than the Dewalt 780? It seems it would be as the bearings slide within the head leaving less “moment arm” from any “slop” as long as rails themselves don’t flex.
Nice job god bless
I’ve had both saws and my opinion the makita is better I also have the 10inch makita which is my travel saw the 12inch stays in the shop
Thanks, makes me feel better about spending $700 on it.
@@HouseDoctorRay it’s much worth it I even had the festool kapex but personally I like the makita miter saws better
That's good to know. Hopefully I'll like it.
I have that saw - I LOVE IT!!!!!!! I have had both and much prefer the Makita. I came from a large cabinet shop with over a dozen chop saws, Dewalts, Bosh, and one Makita. We replace the Bosch and Dewalts once a year. The Makita is at least 5 years old and it stil performs perfectly.
Good to know. I'm happy with it so far.
Replace the dewalts Once a year? Y'all must be throw them things off tables and playing dodge ball with them. I've been using my 779 everyday for 20plus years and my 780 at home I use alot as well. We use alot of 779s and 780s in our shop never had one to fail.
@@HondaCrf450r.Nope, they are just used 10 hours a day 6 days a week by 8-10 people, all very capable craftsman.
@@tonymarrazzo354 @tonymarrazzo354 779 and 780s are being used by me and about 10others 12hours a day 6 to 7days a week..
how is the Makita miter saw? I'm on the market to buy it
I am about to part ways with my longtime DELTA Miter saw which has been mounted to a DEWALT Miter Table. I was going to replace it with the DWS779 which is on its way to my house from HD as I am writing this comment. Subsequent to your review; I came up with Seven Unique Features that the Makita possesses by comparison to the DEWALT which more than offset the U.S. price difference of $166 between the two saws without added taxes and S/H.
I was a bit apprehensive about return the DW779 despite of your great side-by-side comparison video due to my existing DW table. Therefore? To the best of your knowledge? Can the MAKITA be clamped to the Dewalt Miter Saw Table?
I'll understand if you do not have an answer on that.
Cheers!
Most miter tables and stands are adjustable and will fit almost any saw. You shouldn't have a problem bolting any saw to your stand.
@@HouseDoctorRay Thanks a lot for your prompt response...😎
So your complaint is you have a small shop. Cool.
Im a high end finish carpenter and I love using the Makita. I am going to buy my own, and I used your link, but Im sad to see that they seem to have done away with the nice deck extensions. now its just a cheap bent bar. Meh!!! I cant believe you were talking about taking them off. Why would you? well Im on site all the time, and Im guessing you will mostly be working at a home shop. I can see how they could be obsolete sitting on a bench with a off feed tables. Maybe you can sell me yours!!! lol
Someone else mentioned there are two different models, one with the extension tables and one with the bent bars.
Helpful, I am with you on the Makita! Thanks
Thank you and thanks for watching.
In all fairness these types of saws are designed to be placed on a stand and used on a job site, they were never designed as a workshop tool. I see so many people moaning about mitresaws in the workshop, you have a table saw? I suggest using that with a sliding attachment instead.
Kinda tough to cut a 12' piece of baseboard on a table saw sled.
@@HouseDoctorRay that’s true, but how often are you doing that and even then it’s not something that requires absolute precision so a hand saw would suffice like the old boys used for hundreds of years 👍
Sorry, I’ve misinterpreted your answer, baseboard here in the UK is called skirting board. But to answer your question a mitre saw is ideal for that job but you would take it onsite with you as near to the installation as possible and away from the workshop so a stand as close as possible to the room you are fitting skirting in would be ideal. 👍
The only thing I think is better on the Dewalt is the fence, the makita fence doesn’t slide which is a mystery to me why makita did that.
You really only need the tall fence on either saw when cutting crown molding. I can see the benefits to each design.
How tall is fence
On the makita ?
About 5 ½"
At 0:41 You do know you are suppose to put a hole in the wall first to fit that saw against the wall. 😂
Hows the saw going.. i like the look of the makita.. I've always had makita saws. The makita is actually cheaper in the uk
Very happy with it. The space saving was key to me. I thought in Europe everyone used the Kapex.
@@HouseDoctorRayglad your enjoying the saw.. space saveer is a good feature. I do own festool track saw. Think kapex is about £1300 so over double the price.. im looking online at the makita some dont have the aluminium extension arms just thin metal which i dont want.. i need to call tomorrow to find out which saw they are selling how did you know which one your were buying..
I didn't even consider the extensions. Mine is mounted on a bench so I don't use them.
@@johno-gb7ci I actually spoke to a Festool rep yesterday from Germany.
Im based in Ireland and as in the UK on site we tend to use 110 tranny's for safety. The rep advised me it would be best to use a 5KVA transformer for best use of a 110 Kapex which would be a no due to the tranny weight.
It would be like carrying a small engine around. While he didnt exactly say outright the motor may give issues he did advise with a sound of wink wink nudge nudge that it wouod cause prohblems. From reading a few posts online the Kapex motor seems to have issues even with the new upgrade to the REB model.A supplier who services Festool in Dublin also advised the 110 version has a lot of issues with motors and advised to purchase 230 Volt or I would be back within a year for a new motor. Or to buy the Kapex KSC 60.The only issue with the KSC 60 is it only cuts 20 mm when comounding to the right. Tried it and a nice saw for small light use. Just out of curiosity did you buy the Makita in the end and how is it?
It’s definitely better than the Dewalt, the Dewalt is an old design.
I'm not sure if it's better but it definitely takes up less space.
Looks like the Makita has some decent features. I have the DeWalt 780 and quite like it, however I'm not concerned about the depth of the saw since I use it on a separate stand away from the wall. One thing I noticed in your video was at around the 9:10 minute mark. I was surprised by the amount of vertical flex/deflection when you pulled the saw towards the front. It looks to be at least 1/32" deflection, which would be a problem if you're trying to limit the depth of cut evenly through your work piece. Other than that, it looks like an OK saw. I'd be interested to see a follow up video from you once you have used it a bit more ... especially on dust collection. That's the one area that the DeWalt is weak on.
Thanks. I may do a follow up.
If you look closer, the whole saw moves, i presume that's the rubber feet giving a little as it was pulled out
How could DeWalt, who's been the miter saw refetence, have let itself distanced so much by Makita... The new sliding setup was such an obvious thing to do.
Good question. We'll see what DW's next generation looks like.
Big price difference between the saws
I’ve had this Makita for two years now and I’m getting rid of it for the Dewalt 😂 I really hate the “accuracy” on Makita btw
why it is not accurate?
@@vincentsolon3216 idk, when I change the angle it rarely comes back to 90
@@jarasblunt maybe because of the knob? did you still use it, what's your fix?
@@vincentsolon3216 i just set it up every time it loses 90
@@jarasblunt thanks for responding mate. I think every tool have some hiccups and the good thing we are good at fixing/improvising it
The Makita is a boat anchor. Yup It’s a great shop saw but it weighs 70lbs. The dewalt is 56lbs. So one is a jobsite saw one is a shop saw
love makita, you made a right decision
I hope so.
The laser seems like a weak spot to me...
Double laser from Bosh looks great but has weak dust collection.
LED in DeWalt is great and seems flowles.
There are a couple videos about adding a shadow LED to the Bosch. Here's one:
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You said the Dewalt saw was a DWS 779. The saw in the video is a DWS 780.
The DW779 and 780 are the same except the 780 has an LED shadow light. The saw in the video is a 779
The Makita looks just as deep as the DeWalt tbh, both really nice saws. Personally I'd go for the DeWalt DWS781
They're very similar in size it's just the DW rails stick out the back making it need a really deep bench that I don't have room for.
First although it was too simplistic in the beginning you eventually got to the part where I have been searching to see. That was the grooving feature. The manual doesn't cover it well.
Dewalt is pretty smart. Why make it fit small applications when they can sell you one of three saw stands. I have the DEWALT Miter Saw Stand, Collapsible and Portable, Holds Up to 300 lbs (DWX726) because I must move my saw outside to cut. My shop has so much equipment there is no room for it inside.
As far as was it the right choice...to me it's six of one and half a dozen of the other. The more important thing is will it work for what you want it to do and will it last the same amount of lifetime.
I had the stand for the DW which is why I had the adapters bolted to the bottom. It was definitely a good setup but since I'm only working at home now I needed the more compact saw.
Now nicer weather is coming and I'm going to miss being able to put the saw on the stand outside. I may buy a stand for the Makita.
@@HouseDoctorRay in my case I got my saw in 2016 for about $250 at an auction. I would have liked to pay less, but those Amish farmers are tough competition.
I'd like to see how they hook the miter saw to the belt drive from the waterwheel.
I like makita
Great review. I have the Dewalt, agree with your points.
I have since seen the Bosch saw that has an interesting slide mechanism. One of the popular boat builder TH-cam guys uses one and it appears to take up even less depth.
Thanks John. Those crazy arms on the Bosch made me nervous. I did check it out in the store and it seemed pretty solid.
@@HouseDoctorRay Whether it is true or not, I saw more than one person on you tube with the Bosch, either complain about, or replace the Bosch because they developed play in the arm with use. I am a fan of the Bosch tools I have but I did not move in the direction of their saw due to that. My kids got me the DWS779 for Christmas 2021 to replace my older Miter Saw. And I was building my miter station and got to the part of depth from wall in my design phase...now I am stuck. What do you do now? I have a small shop with space as a premium and kids asking me how I am liking it.
Bummer dude. I was lucky enough to sell mine when you couldn't get the DW this summer. Yeah the Makita is more money but the space saving is worth it in my shop.
@@HouseDoctorRay i think you made the right choice going to the makita. Especially if it suits your needs better and you like it better. Also, i love how you made the folding station with storage, thats really sweet. I got the 10" metabo hpt 36v sliding dual bevel. I cant believe how light and compact it is. I know its a 10" vs a 12", but its still way more compact than expected. Just as compact as a none sliding because it has the same sliding style as this one so it can go right up tight to a wall. It comes with an adapter so its corded, or you can get batteries if you need to run it cordless. For some reason lowes was having a crazy sale on it so i got it for like $269 and its a $600-650 saw. Has a laser and typical features. Pretty easy to operate with all the locks, miter, and bevel adjustments. Super smooth sliding and has the soft start and i think even quicker blade stop/brake when you release the trigger. The one thing i dont like is i dont get to use it enough cause im a hobbiest and havent had many projects i needed it haha. That new sliding design with the Bosch does seem pretty cool, but i did feel like it was going to end up not as stable or accurate as it aged. I like the forward slide bars that keep it tight to the wall like ours better. Just seems much more reliable with less moving parts to wear and fail. Great review BTW. Very in depth
I looked at the Metabo but the one on display was banged up and sloppy. I wasn't sure if it was just beat up or poorly made. Glad to hear it's a good tool. The only Metabo I have is an angle grinder and it's great.
Me watching is an example of whats missing on politics in the US. Lol.
I own dewalt and still watching head to head videos even if mine turns out to be worse.
I own the 780 and havent seen any issues you showed so maybe theyre different more than others 3 years ago said
Oh they sell a mikita i think that has angles arms so it can be smaller on benches.
I have a laser on my Skill circular saw. It’s not accurate. But a great saw anyway.
This lays down a laser beside the cut. I haven't had a chance to test it out yet for accuracy.
Sure it's not factory stock on a DW779 but you can purchase an aftermarket laser that is very simple to install
Middle of video, is that the 779 because the new 779 doesnt have that lock for stopping the slide. Has the knob but not the lock.
Man they changed alot simce this vodeo was done
Yes, it's the 779 from Lowe's. Bought it several years ago at Christmas and it came with the stand.
@@HouseDoctorRay what bothers me is how many changes they've made since these 3 year old videos came out. Like sooooo many. Some great. Some crappy as far as replacing 779 parts with crappier parts and less stuff. Like they had two similar tools and downgraded one to create the price difference that didn't make sense before lol
3:26 so does mine
Black Friday sale: Dewalt 779 $399 w/ stand VS. Makita $799 and NO stand. 🤔
That's regular price for the Makita! I paid similar for my DW a few years back with the stand. Still happier with the Makita.
That DW stand is pretty sweet; light and sturdy.
I understand the wall issue. I got my 779 for 300 so woth it for my wallet.
Great deal! I liked the saw it was just too big for me.
The Dewalt looks like it is belt driven, the Makita direct is that the case
The Makita appears to not have a belt. It must have a gearbox of some sort because the motor is mounted at an angle.
That being said I've not heard of any problems with the DW belt drive.
It's a commercial saw. Not made really for standard benches. Why Dewalt makes a stand for it. It's like parking a Cadillac in a dog house, doghouse wasn't designed for a Cadillac
Not sure I totally agree with you but I will say the DW was fine while I was traveling. I just didn't have the room once I parked in my garage. The Makita is a bit heavier than the DW.
That looks like a space problem not a tool problem.
Don't buy Makita 1219 . It has accurancy problems. It appears more on wide cuts
I hope you're wrong.
@@HouseDoctorRay I was choosing between makita and dewlt 780. Liked makita because of all things you have mentioned, but then i've found several video where guys showing that makita doing about 0.3-0.5 mm curve in the middle , when cutting on a maximum wide
@@HouseDoctorRay here is 45 angle problem th-cam.com/video/DqOaFqkfiGI/w-d-xo.html
@@HouseDoctorRay here is one of hte video with curve th-cam.com/video/1UFL6epYcXw/w-d-xo.html
@@HouseDoctorRay can you please do the same accurancy test with dewalt and makite, because you have both of them :)
Nah, personally I'd go for DeWalt, but I'm not limited by setup area.
mobile dewalt rolling base... problem solved.
Makita wins
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Put it on the proper stand ... problem solved !🤔
I had the stand. Still took up too much room.
Just get a mitre saw stand.
I had one but I do more work in the garage so I'd rather have a permanent setup.
I bet he's back on the DeWalt by now , Makita no longer has the quality since the move to Chinese manufacturing. If a Makita has a silver base it's garbage. Old yellow base is definitely a excellent tool .new silver base saws are garbage 😭
But you are talking about a $400 vs $800 saw. 😂
Not quite that much difference in price, but close. If I didn't have to make a spot in my garage I would've kept the DW.
I've had nothing but trouble from the Makita. I'll never buy another one again! POS!!!
I hope I have better luck than you did.
I found mine went out of square easily. Also say if you have a deep cut deeper than the extension of the saw and you have to flip the piece over the cut doesn't match up
I haven't really used it yet. I hope I have better luck.
It is the 799 not 779
I goofed. It is 779
Makita = Meh. $1400 later and the blade wobbles horribly out of the box, dust collection with bag is a joke, when extended fully toward you, the handle/blade move left/right enough to double the blade width.
For the money, I had much higher expectations.
And, the 4ah battery it came with only lasts about 50 cuts. Just enough to cut vinyl flooring in a 4x10 closet. Pretty sad.
What are you referring to?
@@anaesthetics - The Makita - completely underwhelmed.
But it's got a *LASER* 😎
The one i bought had the shadow line - returned that turd and went to a dewalt 60v with the same - much better - though again, for the money, disappointing that i had to adjust for square right away. . . @@HouseDoctorRay
If I had the room I would've kept the DW. It was great and accurate just took up too much room. I agree the Makita is overpriced but the Bosch and Delta cruiser made me nervous with those crazy arms.
The price difference is pretty huge. Easy to find the dewalt for $399 where as the Makita ranges from $650-900. I like the makita better but I’d rather save the money and get the dewalt.
True but it was too big for me. I think I paid $650 for the Makita.
WhyTF would you put a sliding miter saw on a 25" workbench? Shop's not big enough for a proper miter saw table? dOnT BUy DiSs sAw! LOL
Since you asked:
I used it for work when I traveled along with the DW stand. I no longer travel and just work on stuff in my garage. I'm not going to build a 3' deep bench just for a saw. So I got rid of it and bought one that fits.