99% of Beginners Don't Know These Miter Saw Mistakes to Avoid!
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- Prevent injuries on the miter saw. I'll share with you the woodworking tips and tricks that I have learned over the years. I'll also share some tools that will help make your miter saw safer to use.
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Love the 45° fence hack!
I recommend making it able to attach to the fence. This way you can screw it in place whenever you need it rather than wasting a 2x6 every time you need to do it.
@@seankrake4776or having to remove the double-stick tape when finished.👍
I've been woodworking for almost 50 years and this was a great selection of tips. Watch it, listen to him and do what he does or doesn't. Slow down, take your time and after 50 years you will still be able to count to 10 on your fingers.
Thanks Matt!
using hands only)))
I always watch this type of video to reinforce the things I think I know.
3:09 One thing I found out the hard way - not only does your fence need to be square to the blade but each side needs to be lined up with the other. Both sides of my fence were square to the blade but one side was slightly forward and as result....bad cuts 😕 Just put a straight edge to your fence to make sure.
Matt. This is exactly what I was waiting for. Show more of these. Does and don't. Safety is the key in woodworking. Simple mistakes and safety on all the machines. Thank you so much for these videos to teach and learn us❤
I made the miter station from your plans and added a hood to mine with a dust collector 3 inch port . Takes care of most of my dust then I vacuum out what doesn't get thrown into the collection hole. Great video as always Matt.
Thanks for all the good tips
Thanks for the big angle refresher. I was just contemplating a project with such a cut and was trying to remember where I’d seen that tip before.
A spectacular collection of tips, Matt. Some are common sense, while others I've never thought of. A thousand thank you's for this video, Matt!!!!! 😊😊😊😊😊❤❤❤❤❤
Good stuff to keep in mind. Thank you.
Thanks for the tips.
I just love that large angle tip, Matt! 😊😊😊❤❤❤
Thanks for the great advice!
Excellent info Thanks !
Good tips. Love that sharp angle jig.
Great tips/ reminders!! ❤🎉
Great tips Matt thanks for sharing
Thanks!
For #4, I would also add ensuring that the fences on either side of the blade are actually in line with eachother also
Great video! I actually really like these type of videos where you show what not to do, and then you show the correct way of doing it
Thank you!
Great tips. A DeWalt miter saw (not a slider) is one of the most used tools in our shop where I'm teaching inner city kids about carpentry and woodworking. Besides the warning about baggy sleeves, I'm constantly reminding the students to tuck in their hoodie strings, or take them off. Some of the students are wearing hoodies 12 months out of the year, the risk is significant.
I finally upgraded my crappy hetabo miter saw to the 780 last fall. It doesn't seem like much but that shadow line is such a time saver. lining up cuts is super easy and accurate without even having to put any thought into it.
Great video Matt!
I do feel somewhat personally attacked by #3 because I do it constantly, but you are 100% right.
Also Shop Nation makes a bunch of dust collection upgrade brackets for most of the saws you've mentioned, including the older DeWalt saws. I haven't put it on my DW716 yet but I will be doing that soon.
Good info.
Great video, Matt. Safety should never be taken for granted since most of the time you only get one chance to be safe! It too late for the coulda', woulda', shoulda' after you cut something precious off - be that some of the wood or a body part.
I bought the 12" non-sliding DeWalt Miter saw and added the shadow line. I already have one of those controversial radial arm saws so don't need the added cutting capacity the slide offers.
More of these Do's & Don'ts videos would be nice, especially if you make sure to explain the why's behind the no-no's.
Great tips
Love your videos, brother! Thank you and keep up the good work. God bless
some great tips here ( who hasn't been tempted to to do something that didn't feel right? ) Love The first one about the jig for large angles. 6:40 the zero clearance jig to cut small pieces - I had one shatter and turn into projectiles)
Loved the idea of the "angle board!" The website is great! Sorry it was raining the day you made video... My day today, was going to Minneapolis, and watching the Yankees win!
After 10 years without a miter saw, I purchase the Ridgid 10" Cruiser and put a Frued Ultra Finish blade on it. . Added a back zero clearance fence, and Fast Cap's zero cleanse tap . A little black hobby foam to enlarge the dust collection scoop, and a dedicated Small shop vac with an auto start switch and a cardboard box helps contain most of the dust. Even bought the DeWalt Crown stops so I can do crown molding Cruiser as the same 8mm hole on the side. It sits at the end of my M1000 extension to my MFT/3 table. Give me 12' to the left in my shop. I made custom temporary supports for supporting material on both side when needed.
BTW, you can easily make one of those million dollar hold downs with some scraps and rubber door bumpers.
I just ordered the Wen 10" sliding dual bevel, hope it arrives soon to replace my space hog of a 12" Kobalt so I can build my miter station.
I have a metabo hpt 12 inch with zero rear clearance. It has the sliders like your festool. I just got it but so far it’s great.
This is a great video. I'm a guitar builder and a new Miter saw owner (Dewalt). I was wondering how to safely cut a 15 degree scarf cut on guitar necks (20mm thick long boards). The only way I can think is to set the angle and clamp the material to a block, which is in turn clamped to the fence. This basically leaves the neck material sticking out towards me as the cut is made (I would stand to the side).
Another great informative video. Thanks, Matt.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I have made many dangerous cuts with my table saw. That 45 degree trick will come in "handy". Get it lol, I won't lose my hand 😂
One more tip for some saws with larger blades and electric brakes. When you release the trigger, the saw can lurch downward slightly (conservation of angular momentum). My 14" milwaukee SCMS will lunge about 2" if you're not expecting it. It's not an issue for normal cuts where you let the blade stop in the fully down and forward position, but if you spin it up and then realize you need to make an adjustment, raise the blade fully and let it stop before doing anything else.
Love your videos and had to comment about the Sandlot reference 😂😂😂 "we've been going about this all wrong.....I blame myself" 😂😂😂 God bless, have a great day! 🙏
Great video! Two questions … 1) where can I get the aftermarket dust deflector you point to in the video and 2) are plans for the zero clearance jig?
I bought a kit I believe it was off a parts sight, it was possibly EBay, but I think it was some parts site I found on a YT video, but dirt cheap I ordered a shadow line kit for my 79, it’s basically the same as the 80 now, they give you the wire & switch kit & handle parts & light & it takes like 10 minutes to install, works great, been like 4-5 years now, I think I only paid $30 ish
Nice Tudor Watch.......
I bought the 780 a couple of months back, It came with a 60T fine finish blade, not a 32 Tooth as you claim. I find it so far to be pretty good. I did pick up a 100 tooth Diablo that will go on when I'm finding the 60T is not "Cutting It" Lol.
Thank you
You're welcome
I got a Kobalt one on sale a few years back. It seems as good as the more popular brands.
Matt, Awesome video! Great safety tips!! BTW I just got the Metabo HPT 12” sliding miter saw. It’s a newer model. I could not find any reviews on this saw. I did a lot of research and this saw is very comparable to dewalts. Handle is like your Festtool. If you think you could do a review on this saw it would add to the competition. Straight out the box was true to blade and fence. I highly recommend this review as there are older reviews but the saw is newer model now.
My dad did that "forget to adjust the fence" whoopsie on his DW.
Turned into a great excuse to finally replace the blade in it, at least.
I'll note that the shadowline for the cut is the best way I've seen for easy reference, since it perfectly shows the kerf thickness, even out in the sun.
Nice Tudor GMT! Very cool watch
Thank you. My wife surprised me with it for my birthday. Was an amazing surprise for sure!
I use my DeWalt like your saw, I think, to cut aluminum......100% of the time.....
it is a fantastic tool for that, the only thing I do is use a cutting wax by Tapmatic, Edgelube,
and a TCP profile 80 tooth blade......the surface I get will blow you away how smooth....
and yes, it is important to wait for the blade to stop before racing the saw....the dust is
no issue, but the chips coming off can be hot, so ear and eye protection is important....
wearing a ball cap with the brim in the proper direction is also very helpful.....
all your tips in this video are spot on.....thank you so much....Paul
I love your Tudor GMT by the way!
Thanks!
The Makita you showed comes with a 60 tooth Makita blade now. It cuts beautifully smooth 😊
Common sense would be that a miter saw is going to be used for cross cuts. Why would a manufacture ship a 40 tooth? Old 12" Ridgid came with a 80 tooth. New 12" came with a 60 tooth.
Looking at #1, cutting unsafe angles. And lots of people questioned back in high school why they had to know geometry because they would never need it...
Great vid! For a great saw that has the rails forward so you can put it against the wall, everyone should take a look at the Hitachi. I bought mine on sale for like less than 300 and it is fantastic!
Thanks for the tip!
The two-prong hold-down tool at 1:45 - is this shop-made or purchased? That looks like great geometry. If purchased can you provide a link? Thanks.
I absolutely LOVE the tip for the big angles - THANK YOU!
Glad it was helpful!
@731Woodworks A Company called CFS or Custom Fabricating Solutions actually makes Zero Clearance Plates for Dewalt Miter Saws, even Sliding models. For the longest time no one was making the Plates for the DW717 10" Slider model, but they do. Quick Shipping also. No issues with any level issues as it sits flush or about a 32nd under the miter plate. No issues cutting the line either as it does come blank to perfectly match your blade. Thin Kerfs as well. I would advise using a higher teeth blade that matches the blade you want to use first so that the initial cut goes smoothly. Just take your time.
I wish I would’ve seen this video earlier recently. I tried to cut a 45° angle on a very short piece of 2 x 4 end and it grabbed it kicked back, throwing my hand into the frame of the miter, saw cutting and pinning my finger there even with gloves on. I was in a remote part of Wisconsin just wanted to get to urgent care to have them look at it, but they wanted to send out paramedics and when they looked at my finger thought that I might lose it and called for a helicopter to meet us at the nearest airport. By the time we got to the airport, the blood flow had improved and decided to have my wife drive the two hours to a trauma one hospital instead of the $40,000 helicopter ride. turns out the tendons and blood flow is good now, but I damaged my nerve and the surgeon said I should regain feeling within the next eight weeks.
I really appreciate you doing this video
Wow. I hope your hand recovers. In case anyone is reading your comment and sees the use of gloves. Never use gloves with anything spinning. Never. If the glove catches, it will pull and wrap and you're in deep trouble very quickly.
I never thought about using it like that with a stop block I built your miter saw station and never had a stop block before. But even with a stop block I still clamp the piece down by the blade that’s the only reason I haven’t had kick back . Thank you for this . Could have saved anything bad from happening to me .
At least on the DeWalt, the instructions say to let the blade stop before lifting it after a cut. I thought it was because the blade guard might not retract fast enough, but kickback makes more sense. It doesn't hurt to reread instructions every year or two, after using the saw for a while, the reasons start to make more sense, but we can also get a sense of security with a dangerous, but useful tool.
I’ve got a good tip to add for newbie’s. Don’t cut a bowed board with the hump up leaving a gap between the board and saw base. When the cut nears the bottom the board pinches the blade and can want to pull the board towards you and up to the saw. Especially when cutting hard woods. Some great tips in this video. I’ve tried to never become over confident when using all power tools. I love that T shirt, it’s so true. Always listen to your gut it’s truly one of your best safety features. One last tip if something goes wrong release the trigger.
Can you review the Wen miter saw model MM1215 to see if its a good miter saw?
I'm glad you mentioned the crossing your arms thing. I tend to see this more with right handed people. Us left handers have learned to roll with the punches since it's mostly a right handed world so we can operate the saw with both hands.
This is a funny concept to me because as a a Right handed person. I've been into woodworking as a hobby since I was 5. I probably bought my first miter saw in my early 20s. I am now 38. Perhaps I never learned the bad habit because. I learned from a handful of trades people, including my uncles. And an assortment of HGTV personalities back in the early 90 when I was in middle school and highschool. Im not saying I never make mistakes because I have. But to cross my arms to operate a miter saw never crossed my mind. I think that's a commen since thing. And has nothing to do with being right handed or left handed. But Right minded in the task at hand.
@@JeffreyFeyh-rb4xk I didn't start out as early as you, I was 10, but now I'm 56 and in all that time I've never seen a left handed person cross their arms using a miter saw, only right handed. I believe the reason is, a lot of things in the world are built for righties so left handed people just shrug their shoulders and adapt to the situation. As a right hand person you wouldn't understand.
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Im so glad you mentioned the not crossing your arms thing, ive been utilizing this method for years, and again do you leave the saw plugged in when leveling the blade or not? And when i change my blades, i put a wrench on the nut and turn on the saw, that blade comes flying off, just make sure you stand off to the side, cause that blade will mutilate whatever it hits, and always take the saw guard off too,
I’m looking at a “low speed” saw, one similar to the DW872 blade speed wise, but also for wood (ad would prefer 10”. Any ideas?
Do you have any plans or directions on how to make a barn door?
When I was beginner I did mistake of loose sleeves combined with arms crossing, it was a very close call, that was very stupid, my sleeve was at about 1 inch to be grabbed by the blade. From there my first rule was to learn about all rules to get safe and also keeping a minimal fear of that tool or any other tools.
Where did you get the dust shroud for the DeWalt miter saw? I have a comparable Milwaukee saw and I want to improve the dust collection.
Matt! Thanks for all the great content over the years! I wish you had one nearby so you could make a hater's guide to Menards!
I would love to have one of those stores close!
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Love these videos. QQ, any tips when you only have the miter saw and you are cutting longer pieces of wood like fence pickets? So basically, a lot of the picket is just floating off any surface. I hope this makes sense.
I would get a rolling stand or some type of support to keep it from falling.
@@731Woodworks Thanks for your response. I think I’ll give your miter station build a try once I reorganize my garage. Wish me luck bc I’m a rookie to wood working.(I will be buying your 6 plan bundle)
great stuff.....and don't cross your arms....Paul
For #1, I highly recommend this versus just holding a board up on the saw. One thing I will suggest is that rather than double stick tape, you use the clamp that comes with every miter saw that is totally worthless for any other application; now, not only are you using a piece most people just consider at throw away, you can make one jig and use it over and over. Or, just buy the Rigid R4222, which cuts angles up to 70 degrees; that's what I did and I've been happy with it so far.
Just a quick FYI, you mentioned the Delta Cruzer miter saw, that saw is no longer being manufactured. This is not because any design flaws or mechanical issues, it's because their parent company decided to rebrand it under the RIDGID (Home Depot) name, my guess is that they wanted to take the saw out of their competitor's stores (Lowe's) . The Delta Cruzer can still be bought on Amazon, and other sites as well, and I believe (please correct me if I'm wrong) the warranty for the Delta saw is being honored by Ridgid, and/or the store or website you bought your saw from. I bought mine on Amazon, along with an extended warranty, and Amazon will cover any issues via that warranty.
I got one a few years back. First project got a small piece that kickback and hit the garage door. I bought a canvas apron after that.
I’ll bet that apron does a great job at protecting you from kickback
What about the metabo 12 inch miter saw? That is not breaking the bank and has a forward slide. I'm very happy with that one and seems to be very accurate.
I got a small piece stuck between a stop block and the blade while cutting glue blocks a few days ago and it got flung across the room smashing itself into bits against the wall. Almost hit me as well I ended up doing them a different way afterwards
I don’t know about the DWS-779, but on my DWS-780, the DW-7084 crown stops can’t mounted. The tabs under the table are not cast in and the threaded clips cannot be mounted. Dewalt basically said “Oops” and that was all they offered.
I used JB Weld to mount the clips.
Otherwise, it’s a great saw.
Bosch miter saw is great
The Metabo HPT C12RSH2 is a beast of a zero rear clearance miter saw. Currently $299 on Amazon and Menards.
I have one and hate it.
Yes I’ve already read my manual. 😁😏
Those darn two ba six boards are so useful
Using the sliding feature and a good--say 80t--blade, the bottom of your cut will always be cleaner--zero-tolerance tape, or no. Not much, mind you; the top will still be plenty clean, but for extra splinter-y wood, it comes in handy to know.
I like the strange angle. I ran into this and like your shirt says don't do it. I got that zero tape some time ago from your videos. Now a few things, when talking about what saw to get you never brought up the 12 WEN. You showed a pic and that was it. Next I have a question about using a sliding saw. Some on youtube will take small layers at a time? It seems you would get more tear out than a single cut. what do you think?
I always have trouble getting my saw square because it's bad saw in general and the square touches the teeth in front and back. Besides buying a better saw do you have any suggestions?
What kind of clamp is that which you're using to hold down the 2x4 at 42 seconds into the video? I could use something like that!
Did you swap out the blade that came with your Kapex? I've found that Festool is probably the exception to that rule, since the blades they include with their tools are decent.
You're right. They include very good blades. But I did buy a higher tooth count blade for it that I am using on it.
great video! but, you forgot a big mistake. board size is bigger than your saws capacity, and to cut that last ½" you raise the board up.
I like the dust port mod on your DeWalt. Do you have a link to that mod, or did you make it yourself?
I bought mine here shopnationstore.com
Awesome, thank you!
I have a question, the only issue Ive ever encountered was a block getting sucked up into the blade and it was possibly the scariest thing ive ever experienced saw wise.
So the question: Is it safe to have 1 side clamped down and make thin cuts on the other side? So like if I wanted to chop off an 1/4 inch of a 4x4 what's to prevent that 1/4 inch from getting sucked back up into the blade. It hasn't happened since but it makes me super nervous every time I can't hold the opposite end the clamp is on? I think it wasn't directly from this and was a user error kinda thing moreso but it makes me hesitant still
I’m a harbor freight fanboy and would recommend the Hercules version 99% of the time. HOWEVER, menards has the Metabo sliding miter saw at $299 with a 11% rebate right now. Go get that thing if you have a Menards close by.
Tip #7: Loose Clothing. I would add: "also do not use gloves". Thanks for good tips and free safety course which was not boring. Even seasoned woodworkers should time to time watch videos like this one. My neighbour spent whole life in wood shop. After retirement he voluntarily went to work on saturday to met his old mates. He lost three fingers.
0:14 - JFC, degrees =/= inches, Jim-Bob...
I chuckled at that, too, when I heard Matt say that 😀
@@patrickbink4617 Not a bad idea to have a laugh whenever you have a chance, maybe especially these days. :)
if you're considered about the tape throwing you off square, just put more tape on the sides, under the material - just like the double-sided tape earlier.
I don't know how often I'll need to make a 60 degree cut, but dang if I didn't learn how.
Thanks for the useful tips, Matt. However, I noticed you only wore the dust mask when you were doing the segment about dust 😵💫 🤷🏻♂
🤣 good catch
@@731Woodworks 😁 I guess that's just the retired wood shop teacher in me...
Always secure the workpiece between the blade and a jig or stop block.
I learned the hard way about cutting small pieces on the miter saw. Luckily it only made a small cut in the thick part of my thumb. I didn't need stiches.
Oh my goodness, (* don't believe in God *).
Yesterday I used my new mitresaw.
The Bosch Professional GCM 18v-305 GDC with the GTA3800 an made (* a little bit by purpose *) a few dangerous cuts.
But an hour later this video came out an now I see how you can safe make small cuts.
So I think I'm going to make a jig to put on the mitresaw for small cuts.
Thank you.. also for still having all of my fingers 😂. Greetings from the Netherlands
No mention of using the Hold Down Clamp. That will keep the wood from moving and also keep it flat on the table. Takes a few seconds to secure the wood and a few seconds to then loosen it. On shorter pieces it keeps your fingers away from the blade.
12:10 homie did the arm crossover
Thanks for the tips. I was told by someone miter saws are safer than using table saws. After I had some close calls, I found that assumption a myth.