Did the Dealership bleed the brakes? The only thing i can think of is air in the system. Maybe that's too simple of a fix but it's what makes the most sense to me. It's either that or something mechanical between the pedal and the Master Cylinder.
Thanks for the tip. It actually happens more when I first start up the car, especially first drive of the day. The brakes are at their coldest then. I just bought a vacuum bleeder so will try that. I will try to make a video to test the results.
Brakes should not be lightly ridden while stopping. Light pressure wears out the pads quickly and causes your problem. Firm pressure when breaking heats up the rotors quickly and allows the system to warm up and function properly from then on as both the pads and rotors are breaking the car equally. Nothing is wrong w your brakes. I hope this helps. Good luck G.
Soft pressure on brakes is akin to holding a drill motor lightly while trying to create heat and drill a hole in wooden. It's cause the system to become unstable. Peace
I’ve noticed that I bet it is something with the Honda sensing as it is getting the brake ready to brake if you don’t , try to deactivate the braking adoption system and see if it works .
My guess is those brakes are brake by wire not traditional. My wife's Rx330 has the exact same problem. Every mechanic I try to explain this to looks at me like I'm nuts. I completely understand your wanting to fix it. I don't know if it's possible to do so. Computers and brakes are my least favorite combo for this very reason.
Thanks Bill. The problem was actually air in the brake lines. I bled the brakes and that fixed it. Thank goodness it is not brake by wire, I hate those setups.
+Graham Lancaster great! Funny I saw you video about that bleeding procedure you performed after I had dropped that comment. Sorry about that. Glad you got it worked out!
It is probably a brake fluid problem, or a master cylinder. Try bleeding the system, if that doesn't work, have the master cylinder checked. You also might want to check the connection from the brake pedal to the braking system.
Thanks Nick! Air in the system sounds like a possible problem, so I intend to get on it and bleed the brakes with a vacuum bleeder. I appreciate the advice. Cheers
I have a 2017 1.8 ivtec civic, i think your problem is with your brake servo. You may have a small leak in the vacuum pipe. Or the master cylinder piston is sicking , even a damaged internal seal. The usual fault for top end brake fade is a air bubble. Hope this helps.
I don't think you should spend a lot of time on Brake Fluid Flushes etc. Your Civic has Electronic Brake Assist which will give you even more braking power than you ask for in an emergency stop Electronic Brake Distribution which redistributes brake pressure based on load front to rear, Electronic Anti-Lock Brakes - pulses brakes in a panic to give you steering control, Vehicle Stability Assist which uses electronic braking to keep the car on the intended path based on steering angle, CMBS which will apply the brakes based on impending collision, Low Speed follow which will stop the car without any braking when the Cruise Control is engaged and the vehicle you are following stops, etc. You should have a Honda Factory District Service Manager and maybe even a Field Engineer drive your vehicle and you drive some other new ones off the lot together as well. I think you will find it may be a "characteristic" of the vehicle based on all of the electronics. If Honda finds it to be out of character., a simple re-flash of the Control Unit may solve it. If it is typical across the sample of new CIVICS you can drive, it will be a much tougher hill to climb... To co-opt your amplifier analogy. Think of all of these systems creating more resistance along the way than you are used to. It will require more power to overcome the additional resistance, thereby delaying any sound( braking) until you reach enough power to "push through it". Make sense?
Hi Peter. Thanks for the advice and the insight. My real concern isn't a lack of braking in an emergency, it is the smoothness of the brakes during light braking, in that there is an absence of braking pressure in the 1-5% braking application. This is definitely a new thing, as it has only started driving like this in the past 2 weeks or so. I had a couple of techs drive the car, but they weren't able to really sense it. That kind of thing can make you feel crazy, but I am pretty sure of what I am sensing in this car. As for the actual problem and solution, I like a lot of the suggestions that there may be air in the system, as I am compressing the air during a light touch of the brake pedal. It is not the problem for sure, but it is possible, and a quick bleed with a vacuum bleeder might just do the trick. If not, then onto the next possibility. I will keep this up to date as I try new things, and maybe even a follow up video. Thanks again for contributing. I really appreciate your insight.
I recently had to fix my brakes on my 2017 Honda Civic Hatchback Sport. The back passenger wheel break pads completely wore out. I was riding in on all metal and caused my rotor to warp. There was no signs or any damage but dealer said my other back wheel was seeing the same issue. I wasn’t able to tell since the inner pads were wearing out first. Told me air and contamination occurred in the brake fluid.
I would suggest the road test another civic like yours and see if you could duplicate it and if you can in maybe a manufacture defect and technicians might have to run a PTS case through Honda
Same issue. New 2017 with 30 miles. Thought it was getting used to a new car , but SOMETIMES there is no slight braking, it's either nothing or push a little more and it sends you through the windshield. No middle ground.
I've had two civics, a 8th gen ex and a 10th gen civic sport manual. both had/have this break pedal sensation. I'm certified as an automotive technician but currently have little professional experience. but I do most of the work on my own cars. but both civics did this thing where there was maybe an inch or so of brake pedal float where not much happened in terms of slowing the car down. after that inch the brake pedals applied normally. turns out that's just brake pads wearing in. as the pads wear down there's an increase in distance between the friction surfaces of the pad and the rotor, in turn that would give the inch or so of "float" to the brake pedal. if you want your pads to feel new all the time just change your pads more often but from what I heard on this video it sounds to me like normal operation.
Did you ever get this fixed? I hope so , however, I quickly scanned through the comments but did not see any mention of the auto-brake system. My 2017 Si does the opposite. Instead of not grabbing the brakes, the auto brake kicks on too early. So needless to say it is impossible to do a rolling stop because my brake system kicks on any where under 3mph. Maybe the system needs to be recalibrated. Hope this helps.
Haven't had this issue that you're describing but when I have brake hold activated I experienced this coming near a stop. I just don't use the brake hold and the dealership couldn't find a problem as well.
WE HAVE C PILLAR DENT PROBLEM IN TURKEY FOR HONDA CIVIC FC5 2017 CARS BUT HONDA TURKEY DOES NOT ACCEPT THEIR PRODUCTION FAULT AND THERE ARE THOUSANDS NEW CIVIC OWNERS PROTEST THEM IN TURKEY...
One of our friend called Honda Japan but they also did not come back to him for 10 days ie they told on the phone they will reply via e-mail but they did not unfortunately so please find the video regarding this problem. th-cam.com/video/3VDrravNFy8/w-d-xo.html&lc=z22zuxgyxqj1xhojw04t1aokglwjxfunwxrsjxc0cjrqbk0h00410.1520522295169096
@@grahamlancaster9587 Hi What is the name of Honda Civic uses trassmission inside the Civic for FD6, FB7 and FC5 models ? Can it be AISIN and/or ? FC5 uses CVT but what trade name of company ie AISIN again ?
Civic brakes are really good, I have no problems on mine so your car for sure has something going on. Did you try a couple of hard stops from high speed to break in the pads?
Thanks for the advice. I broke in the car really carefully. I have no problem with stopping power, the only problem I am having is that the brakes won't engage with very light contact, they only engage when there is some actual stopping force, which makes smooth braking difficult. Cheers
The ABS might be screwed up also. I had an MR2 that used to scare the crap out of me when I applied sudden pressure to the brakes. The damn things would let loose.
My breaks behaved the same way but I haven't noticed in the last couple of months. I was thinking it could be: the breaks have a little wear on them now, my behavior has changed, or because the weather is warmer now. I figured it was just me, but now I'll have to experiment a bit.
Really? I dont understand. Im not a mechanic but i really like my mobilio cvt brake. i feel like it is always reliable. It really holds and works instantly whenever i need it. I hope i will never have prob with it.
I noticed that too in my car, btw I also have hatchback sports touring automatic transmission same color as yours. I would think it could be sensor failure cause we have like automated brake system or brake assist system.
Sound like you need to bleed the fluid there is air stuck in it re grease the calliper springs and put everything back together and see what happens. Usually air in the hydraulic system will compress before transferring the energy to the calliper so you get a pause before it engages
I have noise coming from the rear end of my 2016 Honda (bought new) currently with 13,000 miles on the car. I took it to the dealer's service department. I still have the problem. They said the Firestone tires that came on it on it causes the noise and they are not covered by a warranty, not even the one I paid $1500 for. I'm going to try some Michelin Primacy MXM4 All-Season Highway Tire 215/55R16/XL 97H from walmart. If it doesn't fix the noise problem I'll take it to the dealer's service department again.
Christopher Pellegrino thanks! I have heard this problem from a few other owners in my video comments, as well as the CivicX forum. Let me know if you need me to contact them with more info. I am located in Victoria BC. Cheers
With a electronic calipers in the rear and you use it all the time considering its a standard trans. The main problem is that the rear caliper pistons are retracting too far back when the parking brake is released. Its not a bleeding problem cause the pedal is firm and not spongy right?
i don't know about anyone else, but it sounds to me like the brake fluid may need to be bled.. I had the same thing happen to my e39. The brakes felt boggy up to far beyond the normal point of contact and would engage my brakes suddenly. just my 2 cents. best of luck to you, Graham.
That is normal. It is due to the honda new EBB electric brake booster. It is not as smooth and linear as the old vacuum booster. It is like when the electric power steering just came out, the system is not smart enough.
My civic 2017 tensioner assembly start giving me problem and there is a sound coming from the belting / pulley in the engine compartment. The car mileage is now at 110KM, too bad as this things happen when warranty just ended last three months. The replacement a bit expensive for this type class of car.
i wonder if these newer model cars have a brake position sensor, much like a throttle position sensor. If so, that sounds like the culprit if such sensor is being used
In a maual you shouldn´t "rest" your foot on the brake pedal. You let the motor do the "braking" in such situations, and use the brakes when you really need to brake. Of course it sould be possible to break in different degrees, light or hevy, but I never rest my foot on the breaking pedal when driven "in case of". I have been driving mauals for over 30 years now.
I have the coupe model and in my case I have the exact problem that you're talking about but it seems to go away after a couple of minutes of driving the car.
Hi Mohamed. My brakes do get slightly better after a few minutes of driving. A lot of people think that there may be air in my brake system and bleeding the brakes might solve it. This explanation does make sense, as when I first hit the brakes I would be compressing the air bubbles until the hydraulic pressure built up and then the brakes activate. I will try to bleed them soon and probably make a follow up video with the results. Cheers
Duke Of Prunes I get the impression Honda quality peaked in the early 90s and has been spiraling down since then based on complaints I've heard from owners or read about over the years.
I don't have that problem with my 2017 Si, but the main problem I have is I get a lot of static feedback in my music when the aong changes wether on the ipod, radio, or Sirius XM. It's really annoying.
Hello, Graham Lancaster. I bought Honda civic 2017 has little bit damage on left wheel. The engine start but when move the stick transmission on D or R the car does not move than the light on dashboard flash on N but the stick on D or R, and the light brick in dashboard is flashing also the driving seat belt is locked.>>> I hope you have advise to me. Thank you
I'm wondering if the brakes are wet when the car is cold. I have noticed when my brakes are wet I have to push quite hard on the brake pedal before any braking occurs. this only happens during the first application of the brakes.
It does occur during the first brake the worst, it could be water, dust, or pollen on the brakes, but the sensation continues after the system is pressurized, only the sensation is less. Of course, when I took it to the dealer it wasn't misbehaving.
Thanks Alexander. I am hearing about this quite a bit since I posted this video. It seems to be a common issue. Hopefully this will be addressed by Honda
Yes agreed - I'm starting to notice a small vibration when applying about 15% breaking power on the front breaks. Defiantly going to take it in for servicing.
I figured it out. The problem is your car isnt a Toyota. lol. J/K. I like your videos. Debating on getting the Si or Sport Hatch. Hope you resolve the problem.
Graham Lancaster also I know the the jump of brake pressure as well. all these symptoms happened to me after performance driving. I didn't go to the dealer yet but I should in 2 weeks
"Honda's direct-injected 1.5L turbo 4-cyl. Earth Dreams engine is creating a nightmare for the company as it tries to resolve a severe gasoline oil-dilution problem it says is caused by cold-weather operation." (Ward's Auto, March 2019) Reliability for Honda's 1.5 Turbo Earth Dreams has been sketchy, at best. China's government even implemented a forced stop-sale of this engine in the CR-V due to so many problems. Impressive engine? I don't think so. Honda's poorly-engineered piston ring design will more than likely compromise long-term longevity. Don't bother asking any service personnel at a US Honda dealership: You will likely get the proverbial runaround, a mishmash of half-truths and denial...
I know a guy by the name of Roy D Mercer, and he told me that he had the same issue and he said ever since he got synthetic blinker fluid. And titanium Muffler bearings all his problems went away. I'm just saying look it up. You're welcome.
Nope, the brake lever pushes the piston in the master cylinder with power assist (I think). From 5% of brake pressure on it works normal. The pedal feel to brake pressure ratio is wacky for the first 5% of brake pedal movement.
They can not fix it looks like hondaz got this issue since 2008 cs I had a honda civic 2008 it had the same issue hitt the brakes nd it fails sm times so u gota pump the peddle again.....went to mechanics dealers changed abs etc etc nothing worked ...in the end honda said we gota change whole breaking system and u just gota pay as it ws outa warranty cs others worked on it too ....they made a quotation which ws more then the value of the car ...lol .. now I got honda civic rs sedan turbo 1.5 2017 ..'.but thanks god it got no such issues yet ....
ask scotty kilmer
Lol
Maybe no music next time
Did the Dealership bleed the brakes? The only thing i can think of is air in the system. Maybe that's too simple of a fix but it's what makes the most sense to me. It's either that or something mechanical between the pedal and the Master Cylinder.
Thanks Daniel. I think I might try to bleed the brakes myself as a possible solution. Worth a try.
Cheers
Graham Lancaster your brakes might be getting too hot. might need to add more ventilation somehow.
Thanks for the tip. It actually happens more when I first start up the car, especially first drive of the day. The brakes are at their coldest then. I just bought a vacuum bleeder so will try that. I will try to make a video to test the results.
This is actually a common problem among many entry level cars. I had the same problem on my 08 yaris, and the 2013 kia rio I have now.
I was thinking the same thing because my fiancé has had that issue on her 2018 Civic Coupe.
Brakes should not be lightly ridden while stopping. Light pressure wears out the pads quickly and causes your problem. Firm pressure when breaking heats up the rotors quickly and allows the system to warm up and function properly from then on as both the pads and rotors are breaking the car equally. Nothing is wrong w your brakes. I hope this helps. Good luck G.
Soft pressure on brakes is akin to holding a drill motor lightly while trying to create heat and drill a hole in wooden. It's cause the system to become unstable. Peace
I’ve noticed that I bet it is something with the Honda sensing as it is getting the brake ready to brake if you don’t , try to deactivate the braking adoption system and see if it works .
My guess is those brakes are brake by wire not traditional. My wife's Rx330 has the exact same problem. Every mechanic I try to explain this to looks at me like I'm nuts. I completely understand your wanting to fix it. I don't know if it's possible to do so. Computers and brakes are my least favorite combo for this very reason.
Thanks Bill. The problem was actually air in the brake lines. I bled the brakes and that fixed it. Thank goodness it is not brake by wire, I hate those setups.
+Graham Lancaster great! Funny I saw you video about that bleeding procedure you performed after I had dropped that comment. Sorry about that. Glad you got it worked out!
Change the ABS module and the unit itself . By the way ! Did you change the rear brake ? Because it is electronic braking system you have to reset it
It is probably a brake fluid problem, or a master cylinder. Try bleeding the system, if that doesn't work, have the master cylinder checked. You also might want to check the connection from the brake pedal to the braking system.
Thanks Nick! Air in the system sounds like a possible problem, so I intend to get on it and bleed the brakes with a vacuum bleeder.
I appreciate the advice. Cheers
Graham Lancaster np
Graham Lancaster Did it worked?
I have a 2017 1.8 ivtec civic, i think your problem is with your brake servo. You may have a small leak in the vacuum pipe. Or the master cylinder piston is sicking , even a damaged internal seal. The usual fault for top end brake fade
is a air bubble. Hope this helps.
I don't think you should spend a lot of time on Brake Fluid Flushes etc. Your Civic has Electronic Brake Assist which will give you even more braking power than you ask for in an emergency stop Electronic Brake Distribution which redistributes brake pressure based on load front to rear, Electronic Anti-Lock Brakes - pulses brakes in a panic to give you steering control, Vehicle Stability Assist which uses electronic braking to keep the car on the intended path based on steering angle, CMBS which will apply the brakes based on impending collision, Low Speed follow which will stop the car without any braking when the Cruise Control is engaged and the vehicle you are following stops, etc. You should have a Honda Factory District Service Manager and maybe even a Field Engineer drive your vehicle and you drive some other new ones off the lot together as well. I think you will find it may be a "characteristic" of the vehicle based on all of the electronics. If Honda finds it to be out of character., a simple re-flash of the Control Unit may solve it. If it is typical across the sample of new CIVICS you can drive, it will be a much tougher hill to climb...
To co-opt your amplifier analogy. Think of all of these systems creating more resistance along the way than you are used to. It will require more power to overcome the additional resistance, thereby delaying any sound( braking) until you reach enough power to "push through it". Make sense?
Hi Peter. Thanks for the advice and the insight.
My real concern isn't a lack of braking in an emergency, it is the smoothness of the brakes during light braking, in that there is an absence of braking pressure in the 1-5% braking application.
This is definitely a new thing, as it has only started driving like this in the past 2 weeks or so. I had a couple of techs drive the car, but they weren't able to really sense it. That kind of thing can make you feel crazy, but I am pretty sure of what I am sensing in this car.
As for the actual problem and solution, I like a lot of the suggestions that there may be air in the system, as I am compressing the air during a light touch of the brake pedal. It is not the problem for sure, but it is possible, and a quick bleed with a vacuum bleeder might just do the trick. If not, then onto the next possibility.
I will keep this up to date as I try new things, and maybe even a follow up video.
Thanks again for contributing. I really appreciate your insight.
I think is air in the system as well, i bleed my new car braking system myself at home, i think the factory didnt bleed it 100% properly
I Got Honda Civic Hatchback EK 2017, my Problem the Fuel sign it won’t go down I was driving all most 32miles it still same it was 280miles Range!!
Music horrendous
The brakes in my 17 Elantra work just like you said they should. 30.000 miles now, 0 problems or issues.
I recently had to fix my brakes on my 2017 Honda Civic Hatchback Sport. The back passenger wheel break pads completely wore out. I was riding in on all metal and caused my rotor to warp. There was no signs or any damage but dealer said my other back wheel was seeing the same issue. I wasn’t able to tell since the inner pads were wearing out first. Told me air and contamination occurred in the brake fluid.
I would suggest the road test another civic like yours and see if you could duplicate it and if you can in maybe a manufacture defect and technicians might have to run a PTS case through Honda
Thanks Simon. Turns out I had air in the brake lines.
Same issue. New 2017 with 30 miles. Thought it was getting used to a new car , but SOMETIMES there is no slight braking, it's either nothing or push a little more and it sends you through the windshield. No middle ground.
I've had two civics, a 8th gen ex and a 10th gen civic sport manual. both had/have this break pedal sensation. I'm certified as an automotive technician but currently have little professional experience. but I do most of the work on my own cars. but both civics did this thing where there was maybe an inch or so of brake pedal float where not much happened in terms of slowing the car down. after that inch the brake pedals applied normally. turns out that's just brake pads wearing in. as the pads wear down there's an increase in distance between the friction surfaces of the pad and the rotor, in turn that would give the inch or so of "float" to the brake pedal. if you want your pads to feel new all the time just change your pads more often but from what I heard on this video it sounds to me like normal operation.
Thanks. Turns out I had air in the brake lines from the factory.
Honda designed it like that. Toyota Camry brake peddle goes so close to the ground before engaging. Lots of free space in the peddle for resting
Did you ever get this fixed? I hope so , however, I quickly scanned through the comments but did not see any mention of the auto-brake system. My 2017 Si does the opposite. Instead of not grabbing the brakes, the auto brake kicks on too early. So needless to say it is impossible to do a rolling stop because my brake system kicks on any where under 3mph. Maybe the system needs to be recalibrated. Hope this helps.
Haven't had this issue that you're describing but when I have brake hold activated I experienced this coming near a stop. I just don't use the brake hold and the dealership couldn't find a problem as well.
Quality video
Did you already setup the brakes prior before driving regularly? Look in your manual.
I test drove one the other day. That first brake application was a real head-snapper coming out of the dealership. I put it down to operator error.
WE HAVE C PILLAR DENT PROBLEM IN TURKEY FOR HONDA CIVIC FC5 2017 CARS BUT HONDA TURKEY DOES NOT ACCEPT THEIR PRODUCTION FAULT AND THERE ARE THOUSANDS NEW CIVIC OWNERS PROTEST THEM IN TURKEY...
Attila Khan that sucks. Make a cool video about it. Maybe Honda will get it's act together
One of our friend called Honda Japan but they also did not come back to him for 10 days ie they told on the phone they will reply via e-mail but they did not unfortunately so please find the video regarding this problem.
th-cam.com/video/3VDrravNFy8/w-d-xo.html&lc=z22zuxgyxqj1xhojw04t1aokglwjxfunwxrsjxc0cjrqbk0h00410.1520522295169096
@@grahamlancaster9587 Hi What is the name of Honda Civic uses trassmission inside the Civic for FD6, FB7 and FC5 models ? Can it be AISIN and/or ? FC5 uses CVT but what trade name of company ie AISIN again ?
Civic brakes are really good, I have no problems on mine so your car for sure has something going on. Did you try a couple of hard stops from high speed to break in the pads?
Thanks for the advice. I broke in the car really carefully. I have no problem with stopping power, the only problem I am having is that the brakes won't engage with very light contact, they only engage when there is some actual stopping force, which makes smooth braking difficult.
Cheers
The ABS might be screwed up also. I had an MR2 that used to scare the crap out of me when I applied sudden pressure to the brakes. The damn things would let loose.
My breaks behaved the same way but I haven't noticed in the last couple of months. I was thinking it could be: the breaks have a little wear on them now, my behavior has changed, or because the weather is warmer now. I figured it was just me, but now I'll have to experiment a bit.
Hi Ed. I just solved this issue the other day (for now at least) th-cam.com/video/trAF5EMVfs4/w-d-xo.html
Really? I dont understand. Im not a mechanic but i really like my mobilio cvt brake. i feel like it is always reliable. It really holds and works instantly whenever i need it. I hope i will never have prob with it.
I noticed that too in my car, btw I also have hatchback sports touring automatic transmission same color as yours. I would think it could be sensor failure cause we have like automated brake system or brake assist system.
Thanks. Please let me know if you get this repaired and it fixes the problem.
Sound like you need to bleed the fluid there is air stuck in it re grease the calliper springs and put everything back together and see what happens.
Usually air in the hydraulic system will compress before transferring the energy to the calliper so you get a pause before it engages
I have noise coming from the rear end of my 2016 Honda (bought new) currently with 13,000 miles on the car. I took it to the dealer's service department. I still have the problem. They said the Firestone tires that came on it on it causes the noise and they are not covered by a warranty, not even the one I paid $1500 for. I'm going to try some Michelin Primacy MXM4 All-Season Highway Tire 215/55R16/XL 97H from walmart. If it doesn't fix the noise problem I'll take it to the dealer's service department again.
Might be bad wheel bearings.
Lots of wheel bearing failures on these cars.
I'm going to look into this I work for a Honda dealership as a tech we have never seen this before
Christopher Pellegrino thanks! I have heard this problem from a few other owners in my video comments, as well as the CivicX forum. Let me know if you need me to contact them with more info. I am located in Victoria BC.
Cheers
sounds like air in the brake line ...
Or in need of a new caliber
With a electronic calipers in the rear and you use it all the time considering its a standard trans. The main problem is that the rear caliper pistons are retracting too far back when the parking brake is released. Its not a bleeding problem cause the pedal is firm and not spongy right?
It's nothing to even worry about people who buy these new cars today gripe and complain over the littlest problems that don't even matter
Dump the Honda MTF fluid and switch it to Redline MTL. Shifts way better. That's what I run in my 12 Accord with a 5sp manual
David Steckley that redline and amsoil MTF are NOT good in cold weather like canada. Below freezing hard to change gears untill fluid heats up.
It sounds like the electronic parking brake is starting to go out that can cause the brakes to act up
i don't know about anyone else, but it sounds to me like the brake fluid may need to be bled.. I had the same thing happen to my e39. The brakes felt boggy up to far beyond the normal point of contact and would engage my brakes suddenly. just my 2 cents. best of luck to you, Graham.
Thanks RJ. I might give this one a shot myself with a bleeder. Worth a try.
No problem, buddy! Let us know how it turns out-
Will do. Thx for the tip. Maybe a brake bleeding video in my near future.
I don't have that problem but my braking pedal does have a rattle too that does bother me sometimes
That is normal. It is due to the honda new EBB electric brake booster. It is not as smooth and linear as the old vacuum booster. It is like when the electric power steering just came out, the system is not smart enough.
is it normal when using electric parking brake makes a somewhat loud sound when engaging or disengaging.?
Yes, it's normal.
Only brakes problem?
Honda brakes have always been their weakest link. Usually the rotors are too small. Sounds like you have something wrong with the electric pump.
My civic 2017 tensioner assembly start giving me problem and there is a sound coming from the belting / pulley in the engine compartment. The car mileage is now at 110KM, too bad as this things happen when warranty just ended last three months. The replacement a bit expensive for this type class of car.
I think there is air in the tubing where the breakfluid travels. Try bleeding it until the air is removed from the tubes
I heard the pedals on this car are electronic so maybe that's why they're not responsive when you press it lightly
CompilationWorld brakes aren't electronic. They have electronic assist, but they're not brake-by-wire.
Bleeding brake system, if it's hybrid, your car has regenerative braking system
i wonder if these newer model cars have a brake position sensor, much like a throttle position sensor. If so, that sounds like the culprit if such sensor is being used
In a maual you shouldn´t "rest" your foot on the brake pedal. You let the motor do the "braking" in such situations, and use the brakes when you really need to brake. Of course it sould be possible to break in different degrees, light or hevy, but I never rest my foot on the breaking pedal when driven "in case of". I have been driving mauals for over 30 years now.
I got the same thing that I got fixed, go to an auto shop and ask if they have any Ligma and then you just apply it to your brake calipers
I can notice the brake feel very hard when im driving superslow and have the brake-hold feature enabled, otherwise i have no problem.
I have the coupe model and in my case I have the exact problem that you're talking about but it seems to go away after a couple of minutes of driving the car.
Hi Mohamed. My brakes do get slightly better after a few minutes of driving. A lot of people think that there may be air in my brake system and bleeding the brakes might solve it. This explanation does make sense, as when I first hit the brakes I would be compressing the air bubbles until the hydraulic pressure built up and then the brakes activate.
I will try to bleed them soon and probably make a follow up video with the results.
Cheers
im having the same braking problem (2016 civic ex-t). It is the cause of my anxiety when I have to drive the car in heavy traffic.
It did the same to me Andy. Here is the what fixed it for me:th-cam.com/video/trAF5EMVfs4/w-d-xo.html
Hopefully the dealership will do this for you.
Wait, a brand new Honda with a problem? Does it make you rethink paying that Honda premium pricing and living with a short warranty? It would me.
It sure does
palebeachbum short warranty? Yours don't come with 5 years of warranty?
Duke Of Prunes I get the impression Honda quality peaked in the early 90s and has been spiraling down since then based on complaints I've heard from owners or read about over the years.
Owned a Ford once... never will again. CONSTANT breakdowns. Owned 3 Honda's since with ZERO issues. Just got a 2018 Hatch Sport... So far so good.
I don't have that problem with my 2017 Si, but the main problem I have is I get a lot of static feedback in my music when the aong changes wether on the ipod, radio, or Sirius XM. It's really annoying.
Yep. Same although mine is cvt. Probably pedal attachment
Turns out there was air in the brake lines. I had to bleed the brakes myself.
Mine has a weird issue where if the car is in eco mode (i have an ex-t) the car Boggs down really low when braking
Hello, Graham Lancaster. I bought Honda civic 2017 has little bit damage on left wheel. The engine start but when move the stick transmission on D or R the car does not move than the light on dashboard flash on N but the stick on D or R, and the light brick in dashboard is flashing also the driving seat belt is locked.>>> I hope you have advise to me. Thank you
I have a 2017 Honda Civic EX, but it's an automatic, so I haven't encountered this problem.
I have a 2018 and the car shakes a little at over 55. But as far as brakes problem i have none.
I'm wondering if the brakes are wet when the car is cold. I have noticed when my brakes are wet I have to push quite hard on the brake pedal before any braking occurs. this only happens during the first application of the brakes.
It does occur during the first brake the worst, it could be water, dust, or pollen on the brakes, but the sensation continues after the system is pressurized, only the sensation is less. Of course, when I took it to the dealer it wasn't misbehaving.
Bleed the brakes good it sounds like you got AIT on the brake lines
Yea he did have air in the brakes. He got ot fixed tho
ABS system. Tcs mode on Hondas?
99% of drivers wouldn’t even notice this. When people over describe a problem, they’re usually talking bollox.
I have a 2017 civic hatchback LX. I'm at 2600 km and that's happened to me intermittently.
Thanks Alexander. I am hearing about this quite a bit since I posted this video. It seems to be a common issue. Hopefully this will be addressed by Honda
Yes agreed - I'm starting to notice a small vibration when applying about 15% breaking power on the front breaks. Defiantly going to take it in for servicing.
I have had a similar issue and Think it's the auto break feature.
That sucks. I hope it isn't a design flaw that will cause this problem to repeat.
Right now, i have a problem with my hatchback EX's smart entry.
When it happens is your transmission in neutral with the clutch up?
Why didn’t you show how you break? I bet he speeds fast and breaks hard.
Tire pressures Monitor problem it shows on my dash how do we fix it
I would look at the power assist mechanism.
Thanks. Any advice on how to inspect that? Would it require a hook up to the computer at a dealership?
My wifes cr-v did what seems to me to be similar i dont know but after some good break in time it went away.
Has anyone had Wiring issues, were the fuel oxygen sensors get chewed out? I used to get 360 ... now 250.
Need new break pad?
The amp comparison had me dying lmao
Our 2016 has has computer problems as have other owners. Could be computer related, however I am not an expert.
Never buy a first year redesigned car.
Your driving style is wrong. Should not rest your foot on the brake pedal if not trying to apply the brakes to stop the vehicle.
You’ll never age
hope this helps
I figured it out. The problem is your car isnt a Toyota. lol. J/K. I like your videos. Debating on getting the Si or Sport Hatch. Hope you resolve the problem.
Haha. Good one. The SI looks pretty nice. Tough choice, good luck.
Bleed the brakes, had it with my mustang similar problem..
Thanks. That was the problem.
Yeah dude that volume thing you did sucks. Don't do that again and yeah its air in the brake line!
I have like a mechanical friction feel just before coming to a complete stop
Thanks Olek. Have you had it checked out? If so, what was the result?
Graham Lancaster also I know the the jump of brake pressure as well. all these symptoms happened to me after performance driving. I didn't go to the dealer yet but I should in 2 weeks
Thanks. Please let me know what you find out. Good luck
"Honda's direct-injected 1.5L turbo 4-cyl. Earth Dreams engine is creating a nightmare for the company as it tries to resolve a severe gasoline oil-dilution problem it says is caused by cold-weather operation." (Ward's Auto, March 2019) Reliability for Honda's 1.5 Turbo Earth Dreams has been sketchy, at best. China's government even implemented a forced stop-sale of this engine in the CR-V due to so many problems. Impressive engine? I don't think so. Honda's poorly-engineered piston ring design will more than likely compromise long-term longevity. Don't bother asking any service personnel at a US Honda dealership: You will likely get the proverbial runaround, a mishmash of half-truths and denial...
Maybe proper break in time?
I know a guy by the name of Roy D Mercer, and he told me that he had the same issue and he said ever since he got synthetic blinker fluid. And titanium Muffler bearings all his problems went away. I'm just saying look it up. You're welcome.
is it "by wire" braking?
Nope, the brake lever pushes the piston in the master cylinder with power assist (I think). From 5% of brake pressure on it works normal. The pedal feel to brake pressure ratio is wacky for the first 5% of brake pedal movement.
They can not fix it looks like hondaz got this issue since 2008 cs I had a honda civic 2008 it had the same issue hitt the brakes nd it fails sm times so u gota pump the peddle again.....went to mechanics dealers changed abs etc etc nothing worked ...in the end honda said we gota change whole breaking system and u just gota pay as it ws outa warranty cs others worked on it too ....they made a quotation which ws more then the value of the car ...lol .. now I got honda civic rs sedan turbo 1.5 2017 ..'.but thanks god it got no such issues yet ....
Try bleeding the system.
I jumped off the honda bandwagon after my 8th gen civic. Nothing major but a ton of little problems. Not cool Honda!
Do you know in pakistan these freaking get fire.
What a delusional guy, talking about 0-1% braking feel? Your brake system either works or it doesn't. This is on in your head
just realized this is a Canadian model
wouldn't touch a honda with a ten foot pole. too dangerous
U need to stop during drugs for sure lol 😂
Check the master cylinder...
Air in the lines, bleed your brakes
Air bubble in system.
New brakes i