Astarion Tries Can't Break Up With Tav After She Kills Cazador Rare Dialogue Ending BG3 Romance Bug
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 ธ.ค. 2023
- My curiosity about Astarion's reaction to Tav killing Cazador led me down a rabbit hole of bugs and an unpredictable playthrough. What I found was an ironic bug where he tries but can't leave Tav. Mad one minute and in love the next. And an ending that made no sense. However, the voice acting is amazing when he hears Cazador is dead. I was on the verge of tears. Thank you Baldur's Gate 3 team, especially Neil.
I know this is a bug, but it really is the definition of irony if you've seen an Ascended Astarion playthrough where Tav tries to break up at the end.
where did you find your camp clothes (the gold breastplate)? its gorgeous..!!! I need it
@@soysaucesoy Facemaker's Boutique in the city.
I love how you brought him Cazador's corpse, like a cat gifting a dead bird XD
I always drag cazadors corpse to the house of hope so i can yeet him into avernus. No resurrections for him~
lol, I do the same with Haarlep
@@angelmars0087 Thank you for the brilliant idea! I'm right at the end of the game, (first playthrough), but I can totally still get that corpse lol
I did that with Gortash and Karlach! She said she wanted to see the body...
He's experiencing every emotion known to man in this video lmao
Indeed, he's all over the place.
He is, you're both right😂 y'all gave me a good chuckle today
"Cazador's dead?!" yes his corpse is on the floor, honey.
god the way you can hear how hes on the verge of tears in his voice.... neil outdid himself
Compared to Astarion doing it, tav killing cazador was really anticlimactic.
Yeah, it's kind of like oh hey here's a dagger wonder what it does?
Having played act 3 yet, but having seen "all possible outcomes" of the Cazador "finale" with Astarion and now this video... I really like the one that Tav finishes him off alone kinda better, lmao. I know it's probably not fair to him as a character, because the part where he realizes going through with the ascension would change him for worse, and he instead stabs Cazador repeatedly, only to fall to his knees and start crying, really seemed cathartic in the moment. So you're essentially robbing him of his resolution to the 200 years of torture he had to endure. But, I like this one too, it feels like you're basically taking care of his worst nightmare so he can finally sleep peacefully, even if that's only a metaphorical way to put it.
I was thinking who doesn't let him do it 😭😭😭
Honestly, I think it should be. This is the end to his quest and tav has no motivation outside of astarion to go and kill cazador
@Kasiarzynka but you're not. You're denying him closure and autonomy. You're treating him like a child who can't be trusted to make his own choices about his own life. It's selfish.
I think the 'we're done' is not specific to romance, but him telling non-romance Tav he's through with their friendship once things are over. Weird it doesn't carry over to romance though, in romance context it's clearly interpreted as a breakup.
I wonder if maybe Larian actually didn’t take into account the idea that someone romancing Astarion would not bring him on his own mission. Maybe someone being friends with him, but not the romance. To be fair, they took so many other things into account that some things were bound to be glanced over, though I’ll admit this is something of a big thing to miss, lol.
@@Razshagaul very good point honestly. it does make me think about time i saw someone at larian (terrible with names sorry lol) talking about how they approached the game knowing people would find ways to break it, and wanting to make sure even when people did weird things to the plot (such as in this video) the game would still be playable to the end. I'm wondering if they didnt take this into account not because they didnt realise but because they suspected that anyone who WOULD romance Astarion and leave him behind on his own mission would be doing so out of a curious "i wonder what will happen" experiement, as opposed to wanting whatever ending that may provide. Which given that this video appears to be of that nature, seems correct. I doubt anyone who was wanting a narrative experience and the peak enjoyment of astarion romance would do something like this so maybe thats the thought process? This is all just me speculating, of course. :)
@@jasonpie5048Honestly, fair. You’ll always have the people trying to break the game somehow; maybe sometimes there are story variations that aren’t worth expanding because it would only be discovered by the people going out of their way to find it, and sometimes it’s not even worth having as an Easter Egg. There’s so many hidden dialogue options depending on how you interact with everything that I could see them deciding “Yea, leave that one alone. Let them find a glitch; someone will get a laugh out of this.”
Larian thinking "this is so obviously the worst possible thing anyone could do to Astarion. No way anyone who likes him would make this choice"
I did it to Shadowheart, but tbh I didn't like her and figured her leaving was fully justified haha
It’s so unfair for him, killing Cazador instead of him
Definitely not a choice I could ever make. He needs to be able to have that proper closure by being there and doing it himself.
Kill-stealing is so rude! hahaha
For me he broke down crying after killing him then broke up with me ... I'm just like astarion you were in my party not in the fight for a reason I don't need a count down on a stupid side quest fight.
@@SickSusieI just had him hold back so the cutscene never started and then let Starry kill him after he went back into the coffin
The one thing about Astarion that I've learned from watching some videos, clips and the playthrough from Neil Newbon is this: always tell Astarion the TRUTH and TRUST HIM TO MAKE HIS OWN CHOICES. He'll always make the right one in the end.
i don't know if i should elaborate on why i disagree or not for fear of spoiling anything for anyone. however i will respectfully say as a whole this is a reasonable statement in my opinion but this is one SIGNIFICANT exception to this lol. I trust most people will know what I'm referring to :)
@@jasonpie5048 Hello, I only know the game through such excellent videos and would very much appreciate the enlightenment.
@@jasonpie5048 i believe you lol!
I've had some spoilers so I think I know what you're referring to but then again 🤷♀️ lmao!
can I know what you are referring to? I don't mind the spoilers- @@jasonpie5048
I will be vague in case anyone else sees this who doesnt want spoilers but if you look up ascended astarion and the relevant choices the player makes you should find what i'm referring to easily enough :) @@soysaucesoy
"Sorry, darling, I was hangry before" LOL
😂 "The best defense is a timely murder"
I love that line 🤣
I couldn’t beat cazador with astarion there no matter how hard I tried, so I left him at camp, got cazador into his coffin, ran outside and brought astarion back to finish him off. It worked, even if the cutscene was a little bugged.
I had a similar problem so I put the party in sneak mode then had Astarion use sneak attack on Cazador causing everyone to be surprised and just went ham on him with Karlach. He died within two turns
@@pur3chao56 I’ll try that on my next run, thanks dude
@@meldoesntwanttotellyouthei7012 Np but just make sure you don't get too close or you might trigger the cutscene
I kept dying too, but you can use the help action to free Asterion once he's in the laser beam. That gives you your full party back. Basically, all you need is to take a speed potion, misty step to asterion, help him and then the ritual can't be completed/gets inturrupted. It makes it a much fairer fight.
@@cringeyacademic5035Almost at that fight-thank you for the tip!
you say bug, I say feature.
🤣
Totally, killing Cazador on your own breaks his brain.
LMAO I LOVE THE MIXED SIGNALS
I think him saying you're done was just him upset & blown away by the whole thing.
Well he says the same words after you force him to spend a night with you when he says he's not ready to do it again
He breaks up with you after that.
My favorite part is just Tav smiling like :) while Astarion is tearing his heart out.
I never even considered not taking Astarion to confront Cazador. Interesting, but having him with you is the best. It’s a very compelling scene and a satisfying wrap up to his storyline.
What outfit is Astarion wearing there? It’s so handsome. I haven’t seen that on PC to my knowledge.
I believe these are the fancy camp clothes called the brocade ensemble, just dyed with furnace red. Idk if you can get it before act 3. It’s usually at nicer tailors, like Fígaro, the guy by the baldurs gate landmark that you have to save from the murderer in act 3. It’s not alwyas called brocade depending on the color, and is a patriar outfit, sometimes called city of brass outfit, eminent Emerald outfit, eminent obsidian outfit, opalescent outfit, etc
Tbh astarion is 100% the type to threaten a breakup dramatically over this and then sad puppy dog eyes back to you a few hours later 😂
i don’t think he’s being dramatic when he’s hurt that you literally robbed him the chance of killing his abuser like that wasn’t all he’s been talking about up until then…
i don't think larian really thought that you wouldn't bring astarion to the cazador killing party without him there as well if you're romancing him-
if they end up patching this (honestly i think they will at some point), i hope they go down a different route from how it ends when you're just friends with him (which is basically when he ends your friendship and wants nothing to do with you)
tho tbh they'll probably go down the break-up route if they patch this, which is understandable- killing cazador has always been something astarion wants, and taking it away from him does feel wrong
I’ll be very surprised if the voice actor for Astarion didn’t base him partly on Tim Curry as Frank N Furter in Rocky Horror because he sounds SO much like him!
The first time I came across a clip of Astarion and heard his voice, I immediately went and googled his voice actor because I was so sure he was voiced by Tim Curry 😆
I'm pretty sure your Tav was dating at least 3 different Astarion's in that playthrough 😆
😂 Yeah he was all over the place
The ending made me emotional.
Holy Shit.😄Especially funny moment when there was body of Cazador near Astarion... Lol...
I hope Larian Studios will see this video!
I thought theres a way to convince him u did the right thing and he stays with u
Yes, it depends on the dialogue choices
There is. I believe you have to tell him that it was too dangerous for him and things like that.
I was drinking water when it showed that you brought Cazador's corpse to Astarion and it made me choke lmao
🤣Sorry bout that lol
The T.S. Elliott reference was well placed.
I had some continuity issues with other characters too, I think it happened sometimes because I did some glitch to kill other unrelated NPCs, or I did a sequence break on some part of the history..
Or just didn't rest enough.😅
Love the Ghost Reference with your Tav.
Thank you
The ghost refference has me screamin❤
ha ha about time someone noticed
Pretty sure doing this just ranks your approval with Astarion, but if it was already super high then he still approves of you enough to stay with you
His emotions were everywhere😂
How did that happen??? Lol. Also, make up your mind, Astarion!
It bugged the game for some reason. Really ironic considering the opposite scenario if he ascends and Tav tries to break up at the end.
you have to have asterion in ur party when u kill cazador. its only fair to him thats what he wanted
Well he kinda said you're dumped AFTER the tadpoles are dealt with, so he's not only sticking with it, he's also lives this time up to its fullest, I guess?
Edit: so today my emojis aren't working
Edit 2: nvm saw the ending xD
You can report to Larian this issue
Nah, this should stay. It's hilarious.
I just came to comments to say I noticed your name and subrace…
Fellow Ghestie??
indeed, thanks
Oh man, I've never gotten that epilogue scene at the end. Is that new? My games always end right after that final conversation at camp. No cutscenes after!!
The epilogue was added I believe in December 2023. I believe if you are using a save that was made during patch 4, the epilogues won't play. Saves from patch 3 and patch 5 should have the epilogue at the very end.
@@Stellina-takeheart Thank you so much!!! I just got it to work this morning. I had no idea!! 🥰
Damn, I didn’t know Cazador was so easy to kill! HAH!
Excuse me but what does Cazador say when you die?
He was never gonna dump you i know this is a game but you have to remember when people are extremelt raging nor angry they dont mean it
I didn't even think to kill Cazador without Astarion there...also, our characters look really similar loL! Same face, both tieflings.
I guess is being able to camp in the vampire castle a mod?
The camp is in the Elfsong Tavern. no mods. Thanks for your comment
@@Stellina-takeheartOhhh thank you for this
Wow how odd
He’s so upset after you killed Cazador so I’ll never do this 😂again
Is it a bug or did Larian change that he no longer breaks up with Tav over Cazador?
Between him saying "we're done", the grave scene, and then I got an ending where he didn't know that Cazador was dead it sure seems like bugs.
no when he says we're done he means a break up. revenge on cazador is the most important thing to him even more than his relationship to Tav.
@@Shenanakinsyou view it Astarion cares more about revenge on Cazador than his relationship with Tav. I see it as Astarion saw Tav doesn't give a fuck about allowing him to get that healing from defeating his abuser
How do you get this camp place? Mine is always the outdoors one
Go to the Elfsong Tavern in the City and speak to the bartender to rent the room.
Good gravy, you have to leave him in camp the WHOLE time and never have him interact at all, don't you? Or atleast, never talk to Raphael with him around. that is crazy.
No, just don't take him when you go to kill Cazador. It even happens if you take him for the beginning of the fight with Cazador, but dismiss Astarion back to camp after Cazador goes to his coffin to heal. Then when Astarion leaves Tav can kill Cazador. You have to leave Cazador's palace in order to dismiss Astarion. Talking to Raphael shouldn't change anything.
He really assigns more value to his autonomy than he does to love
As he should
Perfectly fine.
Given his past it makes sense. He was robbed for 200 years of being able to make a choice and you rob him of the most significant one here. Remember the early dialogues with Astarion; he said being a spawn was worse than being a slave because he was reduced to a puppet. In other words, even a slave has his own mind still. This reaction makes complete sense for his character.
Is it not love to safeguard his autonomy after everything he's been through? Self-love is a good look on him.
Yo tav killing Astarion is so lame lol. She’s like “what’s this?” (Stab) lmao.
What outfit is laezel wearing
When you talk to him which room is it?
It's the camp at the Elfsong Tavern
What clothing is he wearing? It's so very Asterion...
the outfit is available in Act 3 at Facemakers Boutique or in wardrobes around the city. Sometimes you can find them in Act 2 but it's pretty rare.
what is the outfit ur astarion is wearing called????? its so cute
I’m an idiot and just realised my Astarion is already wearing this, just in a different colour 😂
I do disagree with releasing them tbh 😅
Edit: WAIT WAIT WAIT!!!! how do u pick up bodies??? Mod? Please share!
not a mod, your tav or companion just has to be able to pick up the weight. You pick them up just like an object.
Another choice of Astarions taken from him. 😟
Зато теперь я знаю, что есть концовка, где ты не трогаешь Касадора
Omg What happens if you don’t kill him (skip it all together) and defeat the brain??
@allstarfarm it's really sad. At the epilogue astarion basically begs you you to kill Cazador and he's living off of rats, terrified that one day he'll catch him and enslave him again
Oh boy, I think you have that annoying sound bug as well
during the ending when it sounds like souls are being tortured? yep got that
It genuinely baffles me how some people will go out of their way to romance Astarion, but when the Cazador fight comes, they leave him behind because they “don’t trust him to do the right thing”. Like at that point, it’s either a skill issue or your tav is another flavor of Cazador. Technically both. Intent doesn’t matter when you strip someone of their autonomy
i Think Astarion is one of the most funny guys in baldur's gate 3 🤣 also the voice acting is unbelievable good ❤❤ thank you for sharing this with us !! just hit that like button👍👍🤏 have a nice day
where does everyone get that outfit for astarion?? i need it 🥲
You can find it at Facemaker's Boutique in the City or in wardrobes in Act III. Sometimes you might find one in Act II, but it's pretty rare.