I received mine a couple weeks ago. It seems simple enough, but it’s a lot. The one thing I hate about these big crowdfunding campaigns is the amount of unnecessary waste that is produced. If they didn’t sell this with a ‘base game + expansions’ model, they could have consolidated all of the expansion boxes into one big box. All of the expansion campaign books could have been combined just to one, with better binding. There are duplicate crafting tables/cards for each element, because the updated tables accommodate the two new characters. All of the old tables are useless and go in the trash. I have a mountain of waste, duplicate content, and extra booklets (not consolidated) for no good reason.
Also, as unthinkable as this is, plenty of people dont go all-in because the "true waste" is the expansions you don't even play. I wish expansions wouldn't even come out for Kickstarting until after the base game was published, but that's a risk on a bad game getting bad reviews most of these studios aren't willing to take.
I do my part when it comes to recycling. I’m conscious about it, but in no way do I consider myself an activist. The amount of unnecessary cardboard and plastic this product produced was truly disgusting.
Primal is amazing. Art is beautiful. Gear progression and deck management feels satisfying. Miniatures are epic and well sculpted. Game mechanics are stellar. The game is not easy. The only knock is that the storytelling is well written but not as immersive as something like Oathsworn. Wish it had a forteller narration.
Im wondering if we can fit the board (or mat) and tokens in the card box and then fit some extra monsters into the core box to condense it some. Still waiting on the expansions to arrive to test that out. The issue with all the minis is those dang vacuum formed trays take up so much space
The rulebook introduces the game through an intro prologue and tells you exactly what you need to know. It gives you an good rudimentary understanding of the game without overwhelming with all the full rules. Also , a big chunk of the rulebook is setups for one shot adventures called expeditions. Overall, the first 30 or so pages is like 95% of the rules. The rest is glossary, expedition setups, full component list, and index.
I am very excited for this one, have been waiting it for a long time since usually Alex seems to enjoy the same games as me. Nonetheless I heard during the unboxing the typical sound of miniatures being hold by plastic tips, making it hard to store those when painted without damaging the base of the painted miniature. I was hopping them to use a similar insert making process as Destinies for exemple. With void shaped insert.
We are going to need a video of when you take all the miniatures out of the plastic trays and throw them in a box loose so you can condense everything 😂. Honestly it scares me how you do that and others too. How many miniatures have you broken/had to glue back together because of it?
I've never had any miniatures break throwing them all in a box. You just have to be careful not to but the game sideways or jostle it around harshly. I also paint miniatures but I have to add extra varnish to them so they don't scratch which is the worst part of having them all together. I like to sleeve my cards and a lot of games simply don't support that without throwing out inserts and bagging the components. I also only have so much space I can't keep all those boxes.
Unfortunately for me and my group Primal has been the biggest disappointment this year. We so really wanted to love it, waited anxiously for the boxes to arrive, we sleeved the mammoth and we got into it. The game balance is way off, the deck management is boring between campaigns, the forge is also a huge letdown. It just feels like you need to work a lot to play the game, the immersion is bad, you only move a bit, turn the monster, go back and forth, turn the monster... For us it missed the mark of just being "fun and amazing". It's a very beautiful game, components are very good although there are multiple printing mistakes we noticed while crafting higher level weapons. I'm so sad this came out to be such a bad and beautiful game. 😢
Oooof, i think I went All-in on this as a late backer around the same time I did it with Wild Assent, add Tanares Ultimate and my partner is going to kill me when they allland on the doorstep... The cost of storage you mention is a real thing!
The gameplay for this game looks great but the minis are a huge pain for me, they are hard to table, to store and pay for them. This game could be great without ANY miniature just the cards (even being too many cards 2k+) and the cardboard.
How much less boxes this would contain if all minis were acrylic standees.... Excercise in excess :) . But thats probably part of the lure. For me, no way I could fit this anywhere anymore.
I'm three games into it and loving it. The game is actually an easy one to learn, but still with a learning curve as you drill into your head the reaction system. The rules are well laid out with lots of examples, so not that much and it contains one lots of one shot and glossary pages so not a lot for actual rules.
@@ntmetroid I don't feel the point is the grind but testing yourself and builds against the various monsters. The 12 game campaign just gives you a number of upgrade choices between each fight. There's also one off and a 3 game campaign which can give you the firehose of build options instead. I would not say the strength of this game is the campaign itself. That's just a way to guide you through the content with a little story to read that sets the stage without interaction. The settlement phase is very slimmed compared to KDM to the point it's hardly there. The game is mostly about the gameplay of the battles and that's exactly what I wanted.
@@ntmetroid Its not grindy at all. For an example, after clearing the Prologue, you get enough resources (no randomness) to make 2 pieces of Fire gear + craft 2 potions. This isn't a game where you are expected to battle the same monster over and over again in the campaign, but weave your way through a bunch of them, as there are multiple monsters of each element and that's the important bit in terms of what you can craft--there's no "parts" of specific monsters needed to craft gear except for their element. Bone/scales/whatever are all generic, so what monster you get them from doesn't matter. With gear + unlocked character cards, you'll be capable of tweaking how your character plays every fight if you want.
About the game being well received, I'd be wary. Of course most people are ecstatic after receiving their shiny new big expensive toy. But there are alreday some voices being raised on BGG about tediousness of the gameplay, so we will see. I'd love this game to be good and would love to get it if it's really good but I'm also careful...
It's got a lot of maintenance to track woth tokens and decks, but other than that, it's honestly great. Probably my favorite game I own. And not just because it's one of the newest.
The nightmare box had the nightmare version of all the monsters adding more content. I've played monster hunter since the first game on 2012 and I like primal more compared to mhw board game
For the last month my brain is all over the place Primal ads have started popping up on me, I'm saving and waiting for Cthulhu season 3, now it's out in my mother language "ISS Vanguard and Nemesis lockdown pack, chytrids with aftermath". But if I buy one/two more games in this or next mothn, my girlfriend will probably throw me out 🤣.
Is it fun to replay the same boss/monster over and over? I wonder what the value is of the minis...id love to paint them but especially if its something id replay and see the painted minis more than once or twice each.
So, if you're running the campaign, it's not like KDM where you're fighting the same thing over and over again. After the first prologue fight, you're given a choice of 2-3 quests (depending on if you have the expansions) each of a different monster than the first. And then each chapter you finish, unlocks more, so you've always got multiple monsters to pick from. But also, yes. The monster behavior deck changes slightly as you level it up, but overall learning how to fight the monster most effectively is enjoyable by itself. Beyond that, the 4-6 (again, expansions) classes all play VERY differently, and different team compositions as well as character builds will require different strategies. Which monsters you've fought beforehand and which ones you didn't will even change things up, as the gear crafted from fighting any given monster can vastly alter your strategies with a given character (for example, the Fire-based Sword & Shield allows you to cancel monster effects, whereas the Lightning-based set wants you to take damage so you can charge up and unleash a big burst of damage back at the monster.) However, there's also the Expedition mode where you just pick a particular monster, pick a level, then build a deck appropriate for that level and fight it. Also fun for the above reasons with all the knobs on your character/team you can tweak between fights.
I dropped my pledge due to the fact that I late pledged and the money wasn't taken straight away. I had fears that they would suddenly decide to take the money and I wouldn't have funds available. So I backed Iceborne instead.
It 100% can. I've got mine full of ALL the cards in the game. Every last one, sleeved and all. You'll have to finesse the monster/character ones to see what fits best since they don't all have the same amount of cards, but the rest all fits just fine
I love the art/monster design and the graphic design looks sharp, but the huge cost and the campaign nature of the game turned me away.... Seeing it on the table now has me tempted again, although those mini's would require me to take up the Hoby of painting because the colours are what makes them pop
They definitely are on the larger side, but I've definitely seen some bigger ones. Monster Hunter has a dragon with a, I believe, 13 inch wingspan. At what point is in not called a miniature anymore? 😂😂
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39:03 Best part of the video
Alex almost painted his minis Red
I look forward to his next video: Knife Safety 101.
I've never been so happy for an unboxing in my entire life! Can't wait for mine to come. I hope we get a video playthrough!
Ah, that great feeling of dread when you see how much you're getting. I regret nothing!
I received mine a couple weeks ago. It seems simple enough, but it’s a lot.
The one thing I hate about these big crowdfunding campaigns is the amount of unnecessary waste that is produced.
If they didn’t sell this with a ‘base game + expansions’ model, they could have consolidated all of the expansion boxes into one big box. All of the expansion campaign books could have been combined just to one, with better binding. There are duplicate crafting tables/cards for each element, because the updated tables accommodate the two new characters. All of the old tables are useless and go in the trash.
I have a mountain of waste, duplicate content, and extra booklets (not consolidated) for no good reason.
I second you. That's why I prefer games that have two versions of the core game to avoid useless components.
Comes down to money. Less is not always cheaper
Also, as unthinkable as this is, plenty of people dont go all-in because the "true waste" is the expansions you don't even play.
I wish expansions wouldn't even come out for Kickstarting until after the base game was published, but that's a risk on a bad game getting bad reviews most of these studios aren't willing to take.
I do my part when it comes to recycling. I’m conscious about it, but in no way do I consider myself an activist.
The amount of unnecessary cardboard and plastic this product produced was truly disgusting.
Primal is amazing. Art is beautiful. Gear progression and deck management feels satisfying. Miniatures are epic and well sculpted. Game mechanics are stellar. The game is not easy. The only knock is that the storytelling is well written but not as immersive as something like Oathsworn. Wish it had a forteller narration.
nightmare expansion was the stretch goal box, the feather, ice, and venom expansions were standard expansions
Thanks!
That feeling of joy when the unboxing video's length is 50:18 but you still remember you only got the Core Box + extra hunter expansion.
Wow, that's a lot of content! I'd love to see a video on how you condense all of that into fewer boxes.
Im wondering if we can fit the board (or mat) and tokens in the card box and then fit some extra monsters into the core box to condense it some. Still waiting on the expansions to arrive to test that out.
The issue with all the minis is those dang vacuum formed trays take up so much space
The rulebook introduces the game through an intro prologue and tells you exactly what you need to know. It gives you an good rudimentary understanding of the game without overwhelming with all the full rules. Also , a big chunk of the rulebook is setups for one shot adventures called expeditions. Overall, the first 30 or so pages is like 95% of the rules. The rest is glossary, expedition setups, full component list, and index.
Don’t forget the behavior deck setup on page 60. I sure did and played the prologue against the entire behavior deck. 😅
@@Camj41oh boy. The prologue does tell you which behavior cards to use but it is a little hard to spot.
I am very excited for this one, have been waiting it for a long time since usually Alex seems to enjoy the same games as me. Nonetheless I heard during the unboxing the typical sound of miniatures being hold by plastic tips, making it hard to store those when painted without damaging the base of the painted miniature. I was hopping them to use a similar insert making process as Destinies for exemple. With void shaped insert.
That looks really awesome! I think that would take up too much of my already limited space though. I enjoy your humor, keep up the great content sir!
Thank you :)
Bro, these rule books make me question whether I’m in the right hobby T_T
Lol
Half is one shot fight and reference 😊
We are going to need a video of when you take all the miniatures out of the plastic trays and throw them in a box loose so you can condense everything 😂. Honestly it scares me how you do that and others too. How many miniatures have you broken/had to glue back together because of it?
I've never had any miniatures break throwing them all in a box. You just have to be careful not to but the game sideways or jostle it around harshly. I also paint miniatures but I have to add extra varnish to them so they don't scratch which is the worst part of having them all together. I like to sleeve my cards and a lot of games simply don't support that without throwing out inserts and bagging the components. I also only have so much space I can't keep all those boxes.
Unfortunately for me and my group Primal has been the biggest disappointment this year. We so really wanted to love it, waited anxiously for the boxes to arrive, we sleeved the mammoth and we got into it. The game balance is way off, the deck management is boring between campaigns, the forge is also a huge letdown. It just feels like you need to work a lot to play the game, the immersion is bad, you only move a bit, turn the monster, go back and forth, turn the monster... For us it missed the mark of just being "fun and amazing". It's a very beautiful game, components are very good although there are multiple printing mistakes we noticed while crafting higher level weapons. I'm so sad this came out to be such a bad and beautiful game. 😢
Well hey, want to trade it away then? A friend backed it and I love it. I would love to get my hands on it.
Love this unboxing, but that sound it makes when you put the plastic back. I can't handle that XD.
Still waiting for mine in Europe.
Can't wait to give this a try.
So do I but I think it`s lasting a bit longer for Europe. Shouldn`t it be shipped after the CNY?
Oooof, i think I went All-in on this as a late backer around the same time I did it with Wild Assent, add Tanares Ultimate and my partner is going to kill me when they allland on the doorstep... The cost of storage you mention is a real thing!
Happy to see you're not in the 50% of us US backers still waiting.
It's finally here!!! I am very exited to recieve my own copy (hopefully) soon! I would love to see some gameplays of the game
Makes me wish I got the game. Unfortunately it's sold out.
I'm just here for the Moana references.
YOU'RE WELCOOOOOME
The character and monster mats look thin. Do you think its worth getting it laminated?
I just finished sleeving all the cards. Took about 5 hours lol. The Nightmare expansion which had three, has cards that make all the monsters harder.
Djezus, how much is that, one needs to buy a house to store all of this...
The gameplay for this game looks great but the minis are a huge pain for me, they are hard to table, to store and pay for them.
This game could be great without ANY miniature just the cards (even being too many cards 2k+) and the cardboard.
Campaign is 11 chapters now. Including prologue I believe you fight 12 monsters total.
How much less boxes this would contain if all minis were acrylic standees.... Excercise in excess :) . But thats probably part of the lure. For me, no way I could fit this anywhere anymore.
Yeah, acrylic standees are more and more appealing the longer I'm in the hobby.😅
I find big standees a bit off putting.
I’m here for cool minis to paint. The bigger the better! ;)
Standees are ick
Yeah I like acrylic standeees, not normal cardboard ones though
What kind of plastic are the miniatures? got a potential commission to this set but I cant find the type of plastic online at all..
I'm three games into it and loving it. The game is actually an easy one to learn, but still with a learning curve as you drill into your head the reaction system. The rules are well laid out with lots of examples, so not that much and it contains one lots of one shot and glossary pages so not a lot for actual rules.
How grindy does it feel for gear upgrades? Thats always my biggest worry with campaign board games
@@ntmetroid I don't feel the point is the grind but testing yourself and builds against the various monsters. The 12 game campaign just gives you a number of upgrade choices between each fight. There's also one off and a 3 game campaign which can give you the firehose of build options instead.
I would not say the strength of this game is the campaign itself. That's just a way to guide you through the content with a little story to read that sets the stage without interaction. The settlement phase is very slimmed compared to KDM to the point it's hardly there. The game is mostly about the gameplay of the battles and that's exactly what I wanted.
@@ntmetroid Its not grindy at all. For an example, after clearing the Prologue, you get enough resources (no randomness) to make 2 pieces of Fire gear + craft 2 potions. This isn't a game where you are expected to battle the same monster over and over again in the campaign, but weave your way through a bunch of them, as there are multiple monsters of each element and that's the important bit in terms of what you can craft--there's no "parts" of specific monsters needed to craft gear except for their element. Bone/scales/whatever are all generic, so what monster you get them from doesn't matter. With gear + unlocked character cards, you'll be capable of tweaking how your character plays every fight if you want.
@@noraptorshere8206 Fantastic news! I have my copy of the base game here (waiting on the expansions to arrive) but haven't braved the rulebook yet.
KoA consulted with Reggie Games on the models. Lots of improvements happened to them since the campaign.
i blame chip theory games for the neoprene haha
Lol yes
lol I think you and quakalope where the reason why I backed it. Feels like ages ago
This doesn't have tape lol love this unboxing
About the game being well received, I'd be wary. Of course most people are ecstatic after receiving their shiny new big expensive toy. But there are alreday some voices being raised on BGG about tediousness of the gameplay, so we will see. I'd love this game to be good and would love to get it if it's really good but I'm also careful...
It's got a lot of maintenance to track woth tokens and decks, but other than that, it's honestly great. Probably my favorite game I own. And not just because it's one of the newest.
The nightmare box had the nightmare version of all the monsters adding more content. I've played monster hunter since the first game on 2012 and I like primal more compared to mhw board game
For the last month my brain is all over the place Primal ads have started popping up on me, I'm saving and waiting for Cthulhu season 3, now it's out in my mother language "ISS Vanguard and Nemesis lockdown pack, chytrids with aftermath". But if I buy one/two more games in this or next mothn, my girlfriend will probably throw me out 🤣.
I just want the miniatures to paint....
I got the raised dragon top cover issue aswell. Unsure if designed that way or the print came off the box.
There are bubbles under the wrap. Itslike that on mind, too.
did you get yours early? I have not gotten a shipping notification yet :(
Is there a final review on the way?
I would love to know the dimensions of that box! huge!
Is it fun to replay the same boss/monster over and over? I wonder what the value is of the minis...id love to paint them but especially if its something id replay and see the painted minis more than once or twice each.
So, if you're running the campaign, it's not like KDM where you're fighting the same thing over and over again. After the first prologue fight, you're given a choice of 2-3 quests (depending on if you have the expansions) each of a different monster than the first. And then each chapter you finish, unlocks more, so you've always got multiple monsters to pick from. But also, yes. The monster behavior deck changes slightly as you level it up, but overall learning how to fight the monster most effectively is enjoyable by itself. Beyond that, the 4-6 (again, expansions) classes all play VERY differently, and different team compositions as well as character builds will require different strategies. Which monsters you've fought beforehand and which ones you didn't will even change things up, as the gear crafted from fighting any given monster can vastly alter your strategies with a given character (for example, the Fire-based Sword & Shield allows you to cancel monster effects, whereas the Lightning-based set wants you to take damage so you can charge up and unleash a big burst of damage back at the monster.)
However, there's also the Expedition mode where you just pick a particular monster, pick a level, then build a deck appropriate for that level and fight it. Also fun for the above reasons with all the knobs on your character/team you can tweak between fights.
@@noraptorshere8206 Yah my big thing would be if I pay so much for a large mini, id want to make sure hes fun to replay with several times.
I dropped my pledge due to the fact that I late pledged and the money wasn't taken straight away. I had fears that they would suddenly decide to take the money and I wouldn't have funds available. So I backed Iceborne instead.
Oof. That's rough buddy. I have MHW and now Primal, and Primal is so much better its not even funny.
sleeve box??? you mean the box cannot hold all the sleeved card? noeeessssss
It 100% can. I've got mine full of ALL the cards in the game. Every last one, sleeved and all. You'll have to finesse the monster/character ones to see what fits best since they don't all have the same amount of cards, but the rest all fits just fine
I love the art/monster design and the graphic design looks sharp, but the huge cost and the campaign nature of the game turned me away.... Seeing it on the table now has me tempted again, although those mini's would require me to take up the Hoby of painting because the colours are what makes them pop
Are you able to review Halo: Flashpoint?
Is this game gonna be on Retail? or something? where can someone get this?
not on retail. second hand market, some only shops preordered the KS so you can buy it there. or there will be a second KS.
Alex, no lie. I sort of hate you right now. Looks like I'm in the second wave, so another month or so.
"Miniatures". Ha.
They definitely are on the larger side, but I've definitely seen some bigger ones. Monster Hunter has a dragon with a, I believe, 13 inch wingspan. At what point is in not called a miniature anymore? 😂😂
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