Should You Get A 2020 RAM 2500 HEMI Big Horn Or Tradesman??? Best Options For Towing On A Budget!!!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 มี.ค. 2020
- Check out this video where I compare the lower trim levels to see why you should choose the Big Horn!!! I also do a fuel economy run or MPG run or whatever you want to call it!!!
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Big Thanks to Century Chrysler in Mount Airy, MD!
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Trucks 🛻 are getting so expensive! I’m so glad my 2018 Ram 🐏 2500 is just about paid off! Driving it till the wheels fall off!!!
I've seen a 2020 Ram 2500 6.4Hemi for 35K
Now THATS a budget Truck
Your videos are very well done. Helped me pick out a truck. Thank you!
Great video as always. “How low can you go?” That was pretty funny. I have been doing the options pricing at home. The 2500 / 3500 download brochure is a big help for reading which package contains. Keep your videos coming!
Great Video JB. Alway look forward to your new ones.
Thanks bro!
Great video. Good to know you guys are in Frederick. I'm in Beltsville. Looking to get my Ram 1500 this summer. Will definitely come to see Matt Shelton!!
Thanks! Yea he is good people for sure!Thanks for watching 👍🏾
Clear. precise explanation of model trim differences ! I like it.
Bad news . Received word from my dealer on Friday that power wagon order is cancelled.
I thought it might happen due to present situation.
Advised dealer for now willing to wait, hold my deposit, & place order at a future date.
Pass news to Mikey.
That’s bro and that is bad news....... Yea I know they were thinking about shutting down production just to keep people safe but canceling orders is pretty insane. I will let him know and thanks for sharing as always bro!
man i wasnt a dodge guy but your dam vids made me fall in love
RAM stepped up their game!
Thanks for the video,I'm looking into getting a 2500, with a flatbed for my hotshot business, any input would help, like gas or diesel.etc..., .
Watching this video about Dodges, and they play commercials about Ford's, like I'm going to buy one .
Been tossing around between what my next truck will be. Do I stick with a half ton, or do I need to move up to 3/4 ton to tow my RV trailer? Presently waiting to see what the next gen Tundra "might" be. Will it be designed strictly as "eye candy", only to tow small landscaper, small RV's, boats, or does it push into the 3/4 ton range. Buddies similar sized RV he gets 8 mpg with the F-250 with the 6.2 gas. I presently get 9.5 mpg with my half ton Tundra (5.7). Yes, I would like "more" truck to ton my 7800 lb. (wet) RV. This past weekend ran into someone with the 2500 / 6.4 Ram towing my same RV, who said he gets 11 mpg towing. hard to believe. Non-towing I get 15 city, and 19-20 hyw. So with the larger hemi 6.4 I know I will not see those numbers.
Great video, thanks!
Hi, thanks for the comparison. Just curious why you skipped the Towing Package when you were building the truck for towing?
When I was in the market, the 6.4/4:10 was high on my list. But the MPG killed the deal and needed up with the Cummins. That new transmission should help that 6.4 though. But nothin beats the exhaust brake coming down the mountains with a camper pushing you. Good video of good really useful info.
Yea that diesel is still high on my list. Would love to see a true competitor or alternative to diesel using electric motors but man that would be more expensive than the diesel lol! Thanks for supporting the channel 👍🏾
Keep up the good work! We just bought a Grand Design Imagine XLS 22MLE and now looking at a Ram 2500. Your videos have been super helpful.
Thanks! Good luck with your search 👍🏾
Nice discussion of buying a low cost Ram 2500 shortbed. I think you have a nice, easy way of explaining the details which many salespeople should emulate. Keep it up! I'm looking at the other end of the price and size scale. I have an 08 Dodge Ram 2500 Quadcab Laramie with the Cummins 6.7 L engine. It has worked well but the emission control stuff has been a PITA to keep it running. Since I no longer drive 25,000 miles a year I really don't want another diesel.
Appreciate the kind words! I’m with you on not returning to a diesel due to the emissions. I was hoping they would relax this moving forward at least on HD trucks but that’s wishful thinking. If you don’t plan on towing/driving much, a 3.73 axle 6.4L HEMI would be a great truck. Hopefully you can remove the emissions on existing truck now that you’re out of warranty
@@JB_WhoWork I need a one ton truck now but I'll get one with a gas engine. It should last me a long time. Of course since we are pretty much in lock down, I won't be going too far for a year or so.
As always JB, terrific video! I'm in the market for a bighorn with the hemi to tow the family RV. Im trying to get a used 2019 with a level 2 equipment group, however they are tough to find. Thks again and keep pumping out the vids pal... looking forward to the next one.
Thanks brother! They will start popping out soon. Currently most of the 19’s are rentals so do nationwide searches and one is bound to pop up. I can ask Century to help you if you like... thanks for sharing and stay safe!
@@JB_WhoWork Cheers! Id take you up on that offer but im a little north of you. Snow still melting... we live in igloos you know...hahaha.
Brennan Martin haha that’s understandable for sure! Stay safe and thanks for the comment!
I drive a 2021 for work. Bighorn has the rubber floor which I like over carpet
Just bought a 2017 2500 SLT 6.4L. It seems it's a step above the Tradesman, but not quite Big Horn - is that correct? It's missing a lot of amenities and, unfortunately, heated seats. It does have remote start though. I like it so far and still getting used to the size. Been watching your videos for a while now. Thank you for keeping it real - I appreciate your genuineness and that's why I keep watching.
Congrats on your truck and it is between the tradesman/bighorn. Thanks for supporting the channel and be safe out there!
Great review.
Thanks for the great reviews! I just purchased a travel trailer that’s bigger than I originally planned on. Now I’m thinking about getting a heavy duty truck. I’m leaning toward a RAM diesel but given the reduced payload inherent with that motor I’m stuck between a 2500 and 3500. Is there a big difference in ride quality when not towing?
Congrats on the purchase! If you’re towing, a 1 ton ride improves when towing heavier loads. If you plan on stepping up to a fifth wheel in the future, I would definitely go diesel 3500.
Great video jb. The big horn is nice for a mix of work and personal. It’s nice, but not to nice to use. The mpg isn’t that bad with this new 8 speed either. Around 3k miles it starts to open up a little more and your gain about 1.5mpg 👍
Thanks Mike! The Tradesman and BH are very similar but what sets them apart are the available pkgs. I think the Power Wagon trim is perfect if you don’t plan on towing and it can be added on the price leading truck! That is reassuring on mpg because 16 mpg is 💪🏾 and if you can increase that to almost 18, even better! Thanks for supporting the channel!
JB Reviews thanks for the good content JB 👍. Yeah as long as it’s not constant stop and go traffic, I’m getting 17.2 with my 4.10 on open roads
Just want to point out upgrading crew cab short bed Tradesman to Bighorn Will make an already pretty big payment (~$600/mo) up another $100/month on a 72 month loan at current 1.99% rates…Worth the mention when you’re driving this thirsty beast! You may want that extra cash for the gas tank ;)
Good review brah!
Thanks bro! I learned a few things from doing that video lol!
I just bought a 2020 Ram 2500 with the 6.4 in a tradesman and I love it. Mine is spec out really good. MSRP was 47017. Got for 41500. I have done a lot of towing with it already. Have had about 14k worth of weight behind it bumper pull. And it does amazing. Where I’m at it’s kinda hilly and it may kick down a gear but it doesn’t lose no more that 2mph. I’ve see and average of 10.5 mpg towing and 15.2 empty. Very very pleased with this truck.
Congrats and thanks for sharing! That’s really good MPG loaded up to 👍🏾
@@JB_WhoWork Really like your reviews. Keep it up.
Do you have a crew cab 4x4? with 3.73 or 4.10?
@@itisfinished4U Crew Cab 4x4 3.73
@@leec409 glad to know it will handle close to it's max rate which is right at 14k lbs. I was a little concerned but I live in Louisiana which is relatively flat and if I do tow close to that weight Arkansas and Missouri is about as hilly/mountainous as I get, so seems based on what you have said that 3.73 ought to handle it like a champ
I have a 2019 2500 6.4l CC 4x4 Big Horn with the 3.73 and in 500 miles I am averaging 12.6mpg in mixed driving. Now I did a 25 miles run at 65mph and averaged 16.8mpg
Was it 50/50 Hwy-city driving and was that winter driving?
@@JB_WhoWork I has been about 50/50 and I purchased the truck on 2/24/20
Bronco Billy it will get better, Mike Hunt has a 19 Tradesman with the HEMI and he said he is getting about 1.5 MPG better than new!
@@JB_WhoWork yeah I figured it needs to break in for awhile. At the same time I know this is a big truck and I am under no illusions of getting great gas mileage. What shocked me most was how quiet the interior is while driving at 75mph. Like riding in a Cadillac
The price on a bighorn spec'd out the way I like is 68,000 a similarly spec'd tradesman is 52,000 for 20 thousand i can buy a really nice jet ski to tow around
JB I love your videos. I have had several campers and ram trucks. I have the 2016 2500 Big Horn 6.4 Liter 3.7 rear. I love this truck. Lately though have been thinking about going with the diesel for better fuel economy, especially for camper towing. 10.9K trailer with 1065 hitch weight. I get 7.t5 towing this monster and daily driving about 12.5 winter, 13.5 summer. (the truck computer is always off) 1) what kind of daily fuel economy can i expect with the diesel and is the HO diesel the way to go?
Thanks Clifford! If you go diesel your empty fuel mileage will be 15-16 50/50 driving but all HWY at 70 MPH, you can get 20 MPG+. Towing you can get 9-13 MPG BUT If you’re not towing a ton, go standard Cummins as the 68RFE is better for unloaded towing and it’s quicker.
@@JB_WhoWork so the bighorn 2500 package apparently does not come with the HO. Only the regular 6.7 and 68rfe.
Clifford Alpert correct, you can only get the HO IN A 3500 1 ton.
Super nice truck. It's not a bad price but I'd pass on the 20" wheels.
My buddy Mike Lewis is the GM at Century. He was the GM at Ourisman in Clarksville when I sold cars back in 2007.
Yup he just got there beginning of this month, good people! When you going camping?
@@JB_WhoWork he's good people! Send me a friend request on Facebook, I've got our itinerary posted. We'll be home for the next 2 weeks, then we'll be at Patuxent Camp Sites in St. Leonard Fri 7/3 through Monday 7/6 then we're going further south to Point Lookout State Park in Scotland Maryland from Monday 7/6 though Wednesday 7/8. Then we'll be home for a couple weeks until we go to Myrtle Beach the last week in July.
I don’t have FB... Do you have Instagram?
@@JB_WhoWork yessir @magothypayments
I just did a 320 mile to Indiana and back. 45 to 60 mph got 18.2 unloaded in 2022 tradesmen 6.4 4x4 crew cab short bed. But i Only get 13.4 when I stay in the city
That’s pretty good!
Bug horn is a nice package, but you know me, I am all about that payload. They are so close, so the difference is not all that much. I would go with the Big Horn.
Side note, I did not know the 4:10 was available in the 250, maybe that only applies to the diesel?
Yes sir! The gas engine always gets the good stuff for sure! I was surprise by the difference in payload too... only thing they need to do now is raise the GVWR on the 3/4 diesel! Thanks for sharing 👍🏾
Nice dodge and the gas mileage is not that bad. Thanks again for the great info.👍
Thanks for watching Kim
Should have asked him to come off some of the hold back $. I would buy a Big Horn over the Tradesman. Thanks JB.
Haha! Yea he was showing net but he would do better to move some units, Thanks Ric!
I noticed most Cummins engines last a long time. Are the HEMI’s also known to last ? Nice work on the videos. 💪🏿
The 6.4L has been around for some time now so it will be bullet proof, however transmission is new for 2019 but FCA has been doing a pretty good job with dependability 👍🏾
being out for a long time doesnt mean its bullet proof, if you can get the HEMI you can wait a little longer and save for the cummins, the MPG on hemi's is garbage around 11-14 depending on wheels and drive style but cummins pump 16-20 and a lot more towing capacity and it will last twice as long on the miles
Sometimes stuff fails no matter what it is. The owners maintenance diligence and driving habits and use really do play a significant role in durability of all engines. It's not out of the ordinary to see a hemi with a few hundred thousand on the odometer chrysler has sold alot of them since introduced in 03 have been available in pretty much every rear wheel drive vehicle offered by chrysler so there will be a few that haven't survived but as a percentage of the whole its pretty small. Diesels have issues too especially thanks to the EPA and emissions standards their durability is a fraction of what they once were complete opposite of gas engines actually most modern day gas engines will last along time and don't have the emissions problems and huge repair costs of diesels now that being said neither is the wrong choice if your honest about what you actually need.
Can you do a 3.73 vs 4.10 comparison on mpg? Great work again
Yes this would be a very good video! I will try to find a dealer that has both so I can do real world comparisons! Thanks!
Both gear sets are too high, in my opinion...
What is the hitch receiver capacity on the 2500's with the 6.4? My Tundra is 980 lbs which is laughable....
1800#’s I believe.
@ 9:31 did he just answer a question from MIKE HUNT!!!! lmao
😂😂😂
Interesting. I just got a dealer certified used 2019 6.4 Bighorn 3.73 all stock w 17k miles and I'm getting 10.1 city. I live in Vegas and it's hotter than %$#$% right now but you seem to have WAY better mileage. Im babying the CRAP out of my driving and i can't break 11 city. I'll be doing a hwy run next week.
Let me know how it goes
Took it from Vegas to Boulder Utah . Averaged 18.5 mpg. Hit 20mpg at times. Took it from Vegas to San Diego yesterday. Averaged 17. I'm happy so far. I'm thinking the previous driving patterns were harder so the ecu must of been a bit whack on mileage performance. Seems to be doing pretty well. Still a dog around town but is what it is. Wait til the 35s and 4" lift come
Not bad mileage at all. You may loose 3 mpg with that setup but it’s worth it lol
@@JB_WhoWork Ill eventually put 4.10s in too.
Matt Shelton is the man!
Heck yea! Do you know him?
JB Reviews I do, I bought a 2500 BH Cummins from him back in a December. He took good care of me both before and after the sale. Great channel btw!
James Greer that’s awesome man! I will let him know and thanks for watching 👍🏾
What’s the difference on gas mileage between this and a half ton ram
Probably will get about 2-3 MPG better with a half ton since it’s not as heavy 👍🏾
So this is what Andrew Luck’s been doing post retirement!
Tradesman everyday. Prefer the basics with less stuff to break.
Such bs you have to spend 5k to get LED headlights.....only thing about pkgs is you have to get something to get something even if they are totally unrelated....all of them do this.....and really for 5k the level 2 isn't worth it
I was a little sour from that too..... I was hoping you can get LED lights as stand alone but they force you to price the truck closer to a Laramie that has them standard.
631 dollars in fees, dont buy from this dealership, that's a RIP another way dealers get your money. I walked away from a dealership trying to charge 600 in fees and went to a dealership only charging 150. and don't let them tell this is normal.
If they are up front with the fees then what’s the problem? I’ve seen dealers offer the lowest prices I could imagine but had 1299 in fees. The price was still way lower than everyone else. You just got to know what you are doing.
@@jdochstader you negotiate the price of the vehicle, the only fee is a doc fee it standard and all dealerships are going to charge it. I will never pay more than 200 for these fees. it's pure profit for dealership.they will say it pays for paperwork but I say that's just the cost of doing business. I do know what I'm doing that's why I never pay high fees. if you don't go over every line dealerships will hide all kinds of fees. don't fall for their bs, they are not your friends they are only there to make money.
No chit Sherlock, if a price is marked down to invoice and they add a 1299 fee then what's the problem. I think you probably pay 5000 above invoice and then demand no fees . They prolly laugh themselves to sleep for a week after they get you to sign the deal.
For not that much more money and being pretty comparably equipped I’d prefer the styling and creature comforts of the Bighorn. Crazy how much the Cummins kills your payload numbers!
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The 3500 Standard diesel with 68RFE has higher payload than the 6.4 Hemi. On the SWB SRW 4x4 anyways. The high output Cummins/Aisin combo has lower payload than the Hemi though.
Yup! You pay about $5k more off the top but you get more features that come in handy day to day. Yea I’m hoping that RAM will fix this so I can stop beating this dang horse 😂😂😂. Thanks for supporting the channel bro!
Greg Dettling you are an idiot
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Wtf was that for! It’s the truth, look it up! 6.4 Hemi - 4,270 Payload
Standard Cummins/68RFE 4,340
for a 3500 SWB, SRW Crewcab 4x4
It’s because the diesel has heavier springs in the front.
Want to see an idiot, look in the mirror.
Greg Dettling good luck going up the pass jack tard!
Can’t touch that truck for 48 anymore!! 😂
Nope 🤣
You would have easily over 10k subs if you quit putting all kinds of ads every four minutes.
Nope, tradesmen for sure.
Tradesman all day long.
💪🏾 Tradesman - It’s what makes a truck a truck!
JB Reviews more payload and less things to break.
Fattie so true!
My brand new 2019 6.4 with 4:10 is loaded but MPG is shit I think the best I’ve got is 11.8
Thanks for sharing this, I will try to do a 4.10/3.73 comparison in the future!
Best I’ve done with my 2019 Laramie 6.4 2WD with 4.10 is 16.2.
Mine is a Lonestar and is very loaded with all the cameras bed step touch screen ram boxes just about everything besides leather don’t think all that makes any difference but it’s upsetting I’ve hit the 1k mile mark and majority driving is on highway idk what’s going on
I’m not even going to watch
🥺... 😢.... 😭..... I’m over it now 😝!
Haven't viewed the video just yet, but I'm for tradesman since they have less fluff, which means less things to break, and a cheaper overall price. Only problem I'm having is dealers are overcharging for their limit inventory... and selling trucks before they even receive them. Too many whales buying trucks right now. Plus the new arrivals are listed as 2022 trucks. And I bet they are really parked 2021s restickered as 2022s... which in turn dealers are listing them with zero discount and full MSRP....
Not a fan of clearance lamps, myself, in the past they were rust magnets, don't know about today's cabs.
....and don't refer to me as guys... you sound like a tool.
4.10? Umm no. No top end and crap fuel mileage.. I wish these came with 3.20s.. cause the other gears are too high as well, in my opinion.
Wtf do you need a 210 alt for? Voltage regulator is in the computer module... Guess what will have to be replaced if it fails... and guess what the unused extra voltage is going to tax...
Btw... 4x4 auto mode is a pass for me which is why 1500 4x4 isn't worth it... better off just getting a 2x4 in a 1500 with thst clutch version transfer case....
No I don't want a power wagon trim... why? 4.10 gears... like I said before even those 3.70s are too high for what I want this 2500 for (which would be the transfer case... and no electronic shifter either ) But no other options than those two...gear sets, which suxs.
neither..get a Superduty
With Democrats at the helm, nobody will be able to afford these trucks.
Tell me about it... They may discontinue diesel all together...
@@JB_WhoWork why would they discontinue diesel trucks? I mean there isn't anything practical out there even close to replacing their capability as far as I'm aware. I know democrats do some crazy environmental stuff. But dear God I can't see that happening at least not anytime soon
@Jack Dysart we are probably 10-15 years from seeing diesels go away but the gas engine has been making more sense for weekend warriors especially with diesels costing so much upfront and maintenance wise
@@JB_WhoWork love your channel
@@JB_WhoWork do you have a 2019-2021 2500 hemi 3.73 vs 4.10 capability, driver comfort, and mpg test up yet? I have the 3.73 but I catch myself thinking I want the 4.10 but dealer only had the 3.73 when I bought mine which I love by the way, but would love to see a comprehensive comparison
Lol