2022 RAM 3500 HEMI FIRST DRIVE || How Much Worse Will The Ride Be Compared To The Cummins? MPG Run!
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- This is my first time ever getting behind the wheel of a RAM 3500 HEMI. Because the HEMI is lighter than the Cummins diesel, how much worse will the ride be??? Fuel Economy Test was also done! || Like || Subscribe || Share || #JBReviews #whowork #RAM3500
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Trucks are made to carry a LOAD .....some people buy a heavy truck, then complain the ride is harsh....duh
That was me when I first bought my 2018 Super Duty. I’ve gotten used to it already.
I don't mind the harsh ride... I've been a truck guy since my youth. 😎
after three years of having my power wagon, i finally got the balls to ship my PCM to HP Tuners and have it unlocked. all i did was shut off MDS permanently and OH MY GOD it's so much better. yeah you can just hit the gear buttons, but this is permanent and my MPG has gone up without the truck going in/out of MDS all the time.
Looks stiff, but it’s made for weight. I like it. Not as much as the diesel, or the 7.3, but I need one of each. The Hemi has proven itself.
Yup, I towed with a 6.4L/3.73 and it got the job done! I can’t imagine 4.10 gears 👍🏾
Honestly like your chanel more than TFL. You actually review HD trucks. Love you videos keep it up.
I love my Hemi 2500. Strong engine with smooth transmission
Thank you for this video. Please find more of this model Ram 3500 6.4 Hemi with 4.10
Got one in 2021, silver with Black front, Absolutley love it.... towing about 9k it's a Tradsmen crewcab 4x4
Thanks for reviewing a ram 3500 with a Hemi. Been really curious about it’s specs.
4K payload sounds low for that truck but it’s still a decent number.
No problem, I think it’s because of the 50 gallon fuel tank 👍🏾
Some of the interior Isn’t much different than my ‘12 Ram. I like the CC long bed over the short bed. JB as you know a heavy duty truck is made to haul heavy loads. Our oldest son has a 2002 F-350 CC 4X4 dually with the 7.3L Power Stroke. He had to put heavier duty leaf springs on the front end because the original ones snapped on both sides while going down the highway, gave him a wild scary ride. It rides rougher than before, it’s made for work, not going to the high school prom🙂🙂 JB👍👍keep’m coming
My 08' F 1fitty, 4.2l work truck loaded all the time, grossing 7000k "scaled it" with ladder rack and ladders. 180k miles gets 13 avg...
I saw a 3500 Hemi Ram Dually at Loves, and i was like "WOW"
My 2019 3/4ton 6.4 w/ 4:10 rear end gets 17.5mpg on road trips interstate driving. But I hold it to 68-70mph. I did on one occassion last summer get 20.5mpg on an 122 mile round trip with mixed highway of 65mph max and construction zones
Another great video! I live in Colorado so being at elevation I'm always under fuel mileage averages for those on the east coast. I have a 17' 1500 and want a 2500 but don't really want to deal with DEF in a diesel. My previous diesels were pre DEF trucks but with gas mileage like that I don't know.. Thanks for the reviews!
Thanks, I can’t wait to travel to that side of the country to test out higher elevations. This doesn’t effect turbo engine as much as it does naturally aspirated ones 👍🏾
I had a 2000 Silverado ,3500 with the 454 and 4:10 gears and was getting 14 mpg , traded it for a 2014 3500 with the Duramax and 3:73 gears and got 15 mpg , and every time you would turn around the DEF system was acting up . After two years it was traded for a 6.0 gasser ,at about 15 mpg with 4:10s. With the 10K they charge for the diesel engine option plus the higher service costs and emissions issues I could never recommend going diesel .
@@JB_WhoWork Definitely be cool to see some videos from you done out here! I grew up on LI. Moved here in 2010
Thanks for the video... I was looking for a video last year when I found my 2021 Ram dually 6.4 hemi, I didn't even know they made them.
No problem, they are so rare wouldn’t surprise me if only a couple hundred a year are produced 👍🏾
How do you like ur dually. I found a cab and chassis dually and was looking at it really hard. I already have a cummins flatbed and don't need another diesel.
@@mirrorimagecattleco I like my dually. The only complaint is the fuel...but I knew that going in. Also wish it had driving lights on the tradesman. But for $52000 for at the new dually...very happy sir.
@@mirrorimagecattleco Great truck if you ask me...the fuel is the problem, but you know that going in. It shines with a load on it. I don't haul a lot, so it good for me. We are looking into getting a fifth wheel av trailer soon. Just wanted to have something I could have all the choices.
@@mrfpaige It will be more of a service truck for us so fuel mileage isn't a deciding factor. Just trying to keep miles off my cummins.
Without a load you do not have to run your tires at 80 psi. 60-65 psi front and rear will make all the difference in the way the truck rides and will not sacrifice fuel mileage.
I know on my 2500 tradesman psi flashed constantly if the tires weren't 80 psi .
My tradesman is built like a farm truck…and rides like a farm truck. Thinking about tinkering around with Thuren springs, but, to be honest, it’s stiff for a purpose.
You want to help your ride get air springs. Makes a world of difference. I once put 2200lbs in the back of a Mercedes GL and the only difference I felt was in acceleration and braking.
14.2 not great? for a gas powered 3500 series truck its actually damn good!
I have a 2020 Ram 3500 w/ the Cummins that I bought brand new. Straight out of the dealership, it rode so stiff that small bumps about crushed my spine, and I'm only in my early 30's. I let some pressure out of the front tires (80 down to 60) and out of the back tires (80 down to 45) and it helped some. 10k miles later the ride was much much better as the suspension broke in. At 40k miles I enjoy it. The Hemi 3500 will likely have a suspension break in period too.
Good stuff!
Sounds like next time you need to stick to a Ridgeline...
Hello-is there a way to make the ride less bumpy? I’m buying a 2023 3500 night edition, short bed w hemi. Are you a fan of adding a winch? If so, any recommendations? And thoughts on aftermarket sunroof? Just subscribed-awesome reviews and thank you!!
Madness. Price says affordable, fuel Econ says don’t do it when there are so many choices. No wonder it’s so rare.
Good point
Not sure on a Ram but on a Ford, the cost difference in base price of a F250 vs F350 is only $1700. I ordered the F350. At the price of these trucks now a days; $1700 isn't much and you gain a lot more payload capacity. I also went gas with the 7.3l. The Ram was a serious contender but in the end I wrote the check to Ford to try the Godzilla. I've owned both in the last few years; both are good trucks. My gas and a friends Duramax pull simular trailers on a 4k mile trip and a separate 200 mile. He gets about 1.5 mpg's better.He does better empty on the frwy. I so rarely run empty on the Hwy . We both pulled the same hills without a problem. I saved ~$9k in cost difference. The cost of diesel fuel eats up the difference. If I were doing long freeway drives and pulling over about 13 -14k pounds; I might rethink it & go diesel?
Nice video and review. My comment will basically be you continue to make my case against having those gear ratio’s that start with a 4 in these modern transmissions 😂😂.
Cruising at over 2,000 rpm on the Interstate empty is terrible. I also remember you testing two rams and the 3.73 was actually slightly quicker. I understand that some brands force you to the shorter ratio for max towing but unless you are at max or like I mentioned before a lot of slow speed off road type towing you don’t need the 4 something rear end. And I go as far to say you not only don’t need it but it’s a detriment to you.
Lol! I guess ever application is different but if someone is going to buy these gas trucks, it only makes sense to have lower gearing. Typically first gear has a super deep gear but when you’re climbing grades, the trans typically will only go down to 4th with 8 speeds. Can’t think of what the 10 speed Fords will go down to 🤔. This may be a good video to test with either a GM or Ford 10 speeder
@@JB_WhoWork well I have experience with a GM 8 speed in a 1500 pulling some
very tough grades. 8% for nearly 3 miles at the KY/VA border. The 8 speed would shift to 3rd but unless I got a little bit of a running go it would not maintain 55 mph. It would as long as I got a decent run at it but I couldn’t wait to start losing speed and then go. That was a 3.23 gear now and the only other option was a 3.42. I’m not sure it would have made much difference because if a 3.23 won’t shift to 2nd than a shorter 3.42 definitely wouldn’t have.
A 6 speed in a 1500 would go all the way to 2nd on that same grade and would give me up-to 65 mph even after I started loosing speed. But it would go to 2nd and give me plenty of rpm. That was a 3.42 and a 3.73 was optional. Again not sure it would have made much difference because it already went to 2nd. 3.73 probably would have too and might would have got a couple more mph but not sure. A 4.10 might have made 2nd gear not possible but I don’t know.
As for my Duramax I had with a 10 speed I’m not sure what gear it was going to but it definitely downshifted a few times on that grade. No trouble with keeping the speed limit obviously but it would downshift I would say to 5th gear, maybe 6th but I’m just not sure. It would be pushing 2700-2800 rpm on that grade to do 60ish mph. It’s a tough one though.
I got a 22 3500 with the cummins back in January and paid 55 for it 55 for a gas seems pretty high
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Thanks brother 👍🏾
Compared to the 7.3, what do you think? I’m still refusing to buy a truck in this market but am using your videos to test drive, lol
Lol 🤘🏾
The 7.3 motor is a beast. Friends f250 hauls nicely. Feels huge compared to a RAM.
My 2018 3500 cummins 4x4 gets 16 mpg city driving.
I had both 17' 6.4 and now a 21' cummins and I can tell you they were very similar in fuel economy
@Jonathan Tripp that sounds about right. I was running around city and was getting 13mpg on the cummins today. I think hwy is probably around 15mpg
Dang I can tow and nearly get that lol. I am cheating a little but still, 14 empty 😆. I feel like maybe this is a good candidate for a slide in camper, or a crew truck for a landscape company maybe🤷♂️. Nonetheless, valuable info sir!🇺🇸💪
Great point, I didn’t think about that! This truck is 100% a great slide in camper option 👍🏾🇺🇸
What was the tire pressure at?
Diesel all the way . 1500 rpms nice cruising speed. Almost 17mpg in the city
Easy 20+ cruising 70 mph on the highway .
You can't beat a 6.7 Cummins for everything. Resale you get the 9-10k back. I just went to the RAM dealership looking at a 2022 limited . Two customer 2500 limited just came into the dealership so I had something to look at . I ordered a 2022 ram 2500 limited mega cab @87k .
They bought my 2018 loaded tradesman 6.7 Cummins outright . 40k miles and mint condition for 45k . Sticker in 2018 was 56k
and $10k off sticker if you financed through Chrysler . They sold my 2018 in two days ! Nothing more in demand right now is a very well treated diesel RAM 2500. Stick with the diesel you can't go wrong . Fuel prices will go down drastically as soon as Biden gets removed so the fuel
price issue will not be an issue .
Hey My brothers new 3500 Bighorn Long bed Cummins is way stiffer than my 2020. Very noticeable. I think it’s because we have adaptive steering on our Longhorns.
Yes these Hemi’s are very nice. It’s a strong reliable gas engine. I think it’s the best gas engine Ram ever made. Imagine that payload if you could get the 12300 lb payload!
Bottom line is you are spoiled with that Longhorn, well maybe we both are! 😎
Man that would be awesome if you could get the higher GVWR on a HEMI! You can on a dually 👀
Just out of curiosity does MDS come on while idling? I personally high idle alot, 2-5 hours a day with my Cummings .
Luckily the Cummins doesn’t have MDS and it won’t activate at a stand still on the HEMI either
65 psi front 55 psi rear is plenty of air pressure empty. Would tremendously improved the ride.The display showed over 80 all the way around? Be nice to see what the door sticker showed.
It would have showed 65 front 80 rear
Hey Scott, I showed the door sticker in the video 👍🏾
@@loveracing1988 Over 80 and leaf springs without weight is going to be brutal!
@@tumbleweedking5668 empty yes. I have that truck with the HO cummins and I ran 65 front 50 rear with the stock tires. That's where I actually had full contact patch on the rear. Towing the rear was at 80 though.
I'm trying to decide if I want to keep a gasser or get a diesel to pull a travel trailer with a good payload. What would you recommend if for pulling a travel trailer??
What gasser do you have? We went from a PW to a 3500 Mega Cab HEMI. Payload was what we needed. Seriously thinking if we should’ve gone with the diesel. Main reason, options for increased fuel (larger tank options and auxiliary tank options for diesels versus gasoline.
@@myront.miller6868 I just have a 13 ram 1500 hemi but ans the travel trailer I pull is around 6200 lbs. I want to upgrade because of the fuel economy plus more payload my truck is at 1500. I tend to load my truck up when I hit the road.
if you tow less than 10,000 miles a year , get the gasser ..... more than 10,000 miles then get the diesel
@@davidmuniz9995 absolutely. Payload is most important. When folks talk mpg or at least what it seems, it’s more of a how many miles can I get down the road on a single tank of fuel. That’s really how I look at it. With the PW we got around 250 miles before we had to stop at another gas station. Going 1100 miles, that’s a ton of required stops.
If they had an option similar to diesel with regards to tank options and legalized the auxiliary fill options like diesel, I’d say gasoline all the way!!! Before the folks come, I know the reason is because gasoline is more flammable and goes boom more some than diesel.
With all that being said, we just got our special order 3500 in January. We will se how this years travels west treats us and decide whether or not to change to diesel. If we do, we will opt for both a larger tank for the stock area as well as a truck bed gravity fed tank as well.
I just went from a 2500 gasser to a 3500 diesel to pull my travel trailer and could never go back to gas
How does the dodge vs ford rate in your opinion in gas motor thanks
Ford wins with the 7.3L hands down but if comparing a 6.2L, it’s a toss up. I’ve heard from a lot of viewers that the 6.2L is super reliable 👍🏾
@@JB_WhoWork the 6.2 is a beast i have 3 of them for snow removal and just picked up the 2019 3500 awesome truck no worrys
$55,000 for a gas truck??? That is something when I paid a little over $53,000 for my GMC with the Duramax. Time to find a gas station after that excelleration going up hill. LOL
It’s crazy out here lol! I’ve seen BigHorns cross over $80k which was impossible just 3 years ago 😵💫
I priced a 2022 GMC 3500 crew cab 8 ft. Bed Diesel. The price was a pricey 77, 000 a fully loaded truck. If you want a top of line pretty boy truck. At another 10,000
I have 2021 3500 Ram Tradesman.... I paid $52000. It has some upgrades. The fuel is no joke on this truck. But when it comes to putting a load on it.... She shines. I have thought about diesel, but the prices are crazy..
Here earlyy
Thanks Jose 🤝
Congratulations
@@TheRamGuy bien vergas🙏🏽
Do you plane on lifting your ram 2500 any?
I have a 3500 btw and yes
@@JB_WhoWork oh yes I forgot that you had the 3500. What kind of lift you gonna do?
You will know next week 👍🏾
Numerically higher gear ratio, lower gearing. MDS is a joke. No fuel savings that I have seen. Similarly the auto start features found on newer vehicles. As long as you can turn these off, I can live with them. I wonder if a 10 speed transmission would add another 2-3 mpg?
I doubt it, I don’t see where the ford 7.3L will land you much better even if you select a numerically lower ratio 👍🏾
@@JB_WhoWork I was just stating that a 4:10 gear ratio is lower gearing than a 3:73 gear ratio. I don't know anything about the 7.3 Ford.
All good, I was just answering your question based off of my experience with the ford 7.3L/10 speed 👍🏾
Having owned 6.4 Hemi Power wagon versus my 3500 Cummins, Cummins hands down best fuel milage and way more tow power than the 6.4 and 6.4 only takes premium fuel 12 mpg versus 20 mpg I will take the Cummins+
If I ran my 2500 Hemi at 65mph on the highway I could get 20mpg same as my HO Cummins. Towing is where the difference really shines. 12.5mpg vs 8
Yeah but with the 10k price difference up front ,extremely high maintenance cost and diesel is $1 more than gas. That mpg difference is a wash. Plus if you’re towing a lot, the mpg difference between the gas and diesel is marginal man.
@@michaellarrick8881 understand that I am getting 50% better fuel mileage towing with my diesel and diesel is only 25-30% more than gas on price. That 10k difference in price is always at minimum made up in resale or more
It’s not made back up in resale though. It’s 10k higher upfront and it still depreciates. Like if you traded the same two trucks but one diesel and one gas, it wouldn’t be a 10k different on price
@HalfShell bingo. You’d have to own that diesel truck for 15-20 years to actually get your moneys worth.
Turn that mds off for good