2022 RAM 2500 V8 HEMI 4.10 vs 3.73 Acceleration And MPG TEST!!! || I Can't Believe The Results....
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- I finally Got around to testing out the rear axle ratio on a 2022 RAM 2500 HD Gas V8 HEMI. I'm shocked at the testing results and looking forward to hearing your feedback! || Like || Subscribe || Share ||
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2022 RAM 2500 V8 HEMI Tradesman Crew Cab Short Bed
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Hey dude!!! Don’t know how I missed this but I’m finally here! Thanks so much man, glad to finally see this tested 👍 your awesome
Thanks Dennis 👍🏾
Thanks for doing all of these videos! I have a 22 2500 tradesman with 6.4 Hemi and 3.73 rear end. I was set on the truck regardless, but your videos definitely helped me to be much more informed when I got the truck. Thank you!
That’s awesome Benjamin, thanks for sharing 👍🏾
Thanks! This video was answering my exact question. Coin flip but wanna tow and maybe upgrade the trailer at a later date and this sold me on the 410. Watched a bunch of your videos on the Ram trucks tonight and you do an awesome job!
I custom ordered my 2021 Laramie mega cab hemi 4.10. It does everything I need or ask it to. Towing is great. Plowing like a tank. Whatever I need it to do, it just does. Long highway trips it gets 16-17 mpg. 13-14 normal driving around town. I do run Nitto ridge grapplers in the winter in NY. I use the stock tires in the summer until they wear out.
I LOVE this truck!
Got a 2022 last week thanks to you. Love it. Been looking at them for two years. Got one on 4/13/22. Thanks to your Chanel again.
Appreciate the comment and congrats on your new rig!!!
@@JB_WhoWork you are welcome. All thanks to you Sr.
I own both the 3.73 and the 4.10 ratios in my trucks, 4.10 is fantastic for towing and hunting trips, 3.73 is just about right for daily farting around. It blows my mind how many mirror foggers buy a truck and have no clue what their diff ratio is. This past fall a buddy of mine showed up with a brand new 1500 Hemi Sport at the hunting camp towing his trailer n he was steaming pissed how gutless the new truck was compared to his older Outdoorsman. Well in short order we figured out he went from a 3.92 to a limp wrist 3.21 I think it was. Anyways guy paid a fortune for a truck he knew nothing about , no tow hooks, no skid plates, basically signed the papers while heavily mouthbreathing then bitched about it later. On average the dealers will stock higher mpg ratios over heavy tow ratios for obvious reasons and most buyers are clueless as long as the heated steering wheel feature works on those frosty mornings.
Sad but true. It is a learning curve however. Some take to learning quicker than others. I'm thankful there's a community trying to point out information and what really matters in your truck application.
My 13 ram 2500 has 3.43🤦♂️. Tows my 12k trailer just fine in the mountains. Next time I’ll be sure to get better axle ratio. . My wife’s expedition came with 3.73, I was impressed.
@@brynwhite5470pretty sure your truck has 3.73. To my knowledge Ram has never offered a lower (numerically) gear than 3.73 in the heavy trucks. My 2005 1500 Ram came with 3.55. The only other factory option for that truck was 3.92.
Great job on your comparison. It answers a lot of my questions and more.
Just purchased my 2022 2500 with 6.4 and crew cab and picked it up on Christmas Eve, 2021. Owners manual calls for 87 octane fuel. It also recommends buying fuels with the cleaning and performance additives for better overall engine wear and performance. Love my Ram.
Good stuff, thanks for sharing 👍🏾
Man what a smart test! You go way above and beyond. Im stoked to see that Limited 5500!
Thanks bro 👍🏾👍🏾
Thank you so much Jb review been waiting for this video
No problem 👍🏾
Great video! Keep up the good work!
I bought a 2022 Ram 3500 dually 4x4 w/6.4 8ft bed specifically to tow my Jayco 5th wheel. It is fully loaded and has a gvw of 17,000lbs. My truck is rated for 17,500lbs. I towed the trailer 2 weeks ago from Tampa, FL to near DC. Did great handling it. Acceleration wasn't all that bad. Averaged 7mpg the whole trip.
I ordered a 2022 Crew cab 4x4 Long Bed Tradesman with a 4:10 among other strategic options and just driving normal around the country side I get 14.5-15. Straight interstate I can get 17.3. I might add I never let the MDS turn on. I run the truck in 8/8 mode with the steering wheel gear selector. Enjoyed the video. Great job.
Another great video brother. I love my Ram 3500 HO w Aisin but am I the only one that got a stiffy listening to the hemi Roor during your 0-80mph test!!!!!
The 5.7 and 6.4 Hemi are truly some of the best sounding V8's today, The thought of Ram replacing these engines with a V-6 is saddening. As a full time mechanical engineer, I'd bet the new engines will never outlast the old. Our new generation of engineers only makes things cheaper, and lighter, but sacrifice reliability. I hope Ram stays on top of their engineers and don't fall in the toilet.
Great job as always Jb
Thanks Chris 👍🏾
I just picked up a ‘21 3500 Hemi 6.4L Laramie 3500 today. It was used, it has 19K miles on it. 4.10 rear axle, long bed, 5th wheel/gooseneck option and 50 gallon fuel tank. I got the truck to tow my first travel trailer I’m picking up next month. Very sharp truck in Hydro blue, I’m stoked for sure. I had a ‘18 Ram Cummins HO but had issues with the DEF with me living in Alaska. DEF in the colder weather don’t mesh well.
This is an excellent comparison. Well done!
Thanks bro!
Great video. I’m thinking in the older trucks that only had 4 speed transmissions back in the 90’s and early 2000’s, the difference between 4.10 and 3.73 made a big difference. Now a days with the higher power levels and more gears in the transmissions, the difference is not as noticeable. It becomes more noticeable when you do a larger jump, like 3.55’s to 4.30 gears or 3.42’s to 4.10’s. I know in the Ford with the new 7.3 gas motor, the difference from the 3.73’s and 4.30’s is very noticeable in towing.
I would have liked to see the cruising RPM at highway speed on each truck. That’s one thing that can make for a more pleasent long trip is how the engine sounds and feels after hours of cruising at 65-75 mph.
Great points and I did forget to show the RPM’s for the 4.10 truck… thanks 👍🏾
Until the new gen 4.5's, the gassers had the six speed transmission I believe. The big changes were in the frame and the transmission is my understanding. Most everyone loves the 8 speed tranny vs the old 6 speed but some dislike the "dial." I got use to it on my 1500's so I have..."stimulus generalized" it at this point. I'm hearing the full gen 5 will mostly be body changes as the underneath has been changed structurally, but then they are teasing that new 6 cyl gasser so who knows...maybe that will be gen 5.5.
I went with the 6.4 Hemi and the 3.73 as anything I tow is going to be well under the 3100 payload and 15K and change total capacity in the 3.73.
If an owner knows they are going to be definitely replacing the factory size tires with a 35" tire or possibly larger, then I think that could be another point to where you would want the 4.10 gear ratio truck, even if you don't plan on towing heavy.
F250 gets a 3.55
F350 gets a 3.73
If you get a Tremor in either you get a 4.30, just a little backup for your point.
Great point 👍🏾👍🏾
Love the 4.30’s in my Tundra
@B B yes it does! And it tows like a champ!
@B B not exactly you have to also throw in trans gearing. You have a diff dealing with low stress but higher RPM from the driveshaft. The first gen Titan was geared in either 2.94 or 3.36. Tundras only have the 4.30 ratio I believe and most American trucks had the common 3.55, 3.73, 4.10.
That's a great review. For me I would grab the 4:10.
Nice work!!
After the Brandon comment you got an instant subscriber
That’s comforting hearing you say that about 5th wheels and 3500’s. Looked at a 2500 Laramie MC hemi with 410 and still only had 2600 payload. Ordered a 3500 Laramie Megacab hemi with 4:10 and should have around 4k payload.
Good call 👍🏾👍🏾
i just ordered the same.. how long did your truck take to arrive and how do you like it?
@@ericstevenson9161 ordered late feb and arrived in June . Absolutely love it! 3900lbs payload. And no diesel maintenance fees
nice video... I went from a 1500 3.92 to a 2500 Long Bed with the 3.73. I get about 1 mpg better with the HD truck over the 1500 towing the same TT (8,000lbs). Truck does amazing and typically cruises in 6th / 7th gear on the hwy. Personally I'll never come close to reaching the max tow numbers for my configuration so I'll take the small fuel gains with the 3.73. I would recommend to anyone who tows to get the 50 gallon tank (long bed option). I get about a 500 mile range towing per fill up.
Truly miss my 01’ 1500 with the 3.92…damn near perfection for towing and daily driving.
Nice comparison! 🇺🇸💪The 4.10 definitely hit every gear quicker. But that’s to be expected. As far as MPGs go after putting nearly 80k on my 2017 Ram I have observed the most accurate results from the computer come after 150-200 miles. It seems after that amount of miles all the trip/ fuel economy meters( trip A, trip B and current MPG) end up reading the same. Tire size and inflation along with driving habits make a huge difference.
Great info bro, you are correct with the average MPG’s, they start to average about the same across the board which is most likely inaccurate. If you don’t idle a lot, the trip average is more accurate and I’ve witness even better mileage on the trip vs the computer 👍🏾🇺🇸🇺🇸
Keep up the good work 👏 🙌 👍
Very nice JB!
Thanks 👍🏾👍🏾
Thanks for sharing.... I did not have option last Oct 2021 when searching for regular cab long bed....I like the performance of the 6.4 HEMI with 3.73's and the reguar cab is lighter and has more payload and towing capacity than I will ever use...I transport Pallets of wood burning pellets at 1 ton each ....truck comes about level and rides smooth and like it has no payload at all.... Love your reviews.
Thanks for sharing this info 👍🏾👍🏾
I operate a livestock ranch. I bought a 2018 F 250 with the 6.2 liter V8, a 3:73 rear diff, and the 6 speed transmission for long distance towing. I also bought a 2019 Ram 2500 with the 6.4 Hemi, 4:10 gears and 8 speed transmission for heavier towing on the ranch. I was surprised to find that the Ram gets better mpg when towing and when not loaded, even with the 4:10. The ZF transmission makes a big difference. The Ram is a little quicker but not by a lot. Both trucks are great. No complaints.
Great info 👍🏾👍🏾
I like the max tow and would pick the truck with the 4.10 gear. This was really good side by side comparison JB thanks for the video.
Thanks for sharing Ric 👍🏾
Awesome video.
When I was shopping around for a truck I could not find a 4.10 anywhere then I came across a dealership that ONLY orders 4.10s. Had the color and options I wanted too. Very happy with my decision. I am fortunate enough to be able to work from home so MPG isnt that big of a deal for me, but when pulling our 34' camper I really like the gear ratio.
Concerning MPG: The absolute best I have gotten on a 500 mile flat drive going 65-70 mph I got roughly 15.5 mpg.
Walked into a dealership planning on ordering a 2500 with the 6.4 hemi with 4.10 gears… asked them to build identical truck but a 3500. It was only $400 Canadian for me to upgrade. Still waiting for it to show up but can’t wait! Big horn model, crew cab short bed, sport appearance package with premium light group! Loved this comparison video! Hope you enjoy your full time RVing. Maybe see you up here in Ontario! I’ll be watching lol
That’s a great build, I can’t find a RAM 3500 HEMI anywhere. Thanks and if we ever decide to swing up that way, I will have to look you up 👍🏾
I live in the GTA myself (Greater Toronto Area). I'm not the only it seems to notice, that full ton pickup pricing has really come down around here lately
Hey I have Tradesman 410s and love my gas mileage. Nice video
Spot on
YES! you said President Brandon! Lol, I'm dieing. I'm going to use that from now on.
😂😂😂
Great video, to answer your question, yes you can have the air suspension with the 6.4. I have a '21 Limited 6.4 w/.4.10 and air.
Thanks 👍🏾👍🏾
I love ' tall ' gearing, altered the final drive in my motorcycle and changed the diff in my car. On my bicycle I like to spin , I have little torque.
I’m between this Ram Hemi with a 410 rear and a Chevy 2500 custom to tow my toy hauler. But Chevy only has 6spd and 373 rear. Which one better for towing
17MPG is spot on what im getting on the highway.
Good video, you should do a video towing with both trucks on a 100 mile loop. Going through highways and back roads, I think this would show a good difference between power and mpg over a greater distance. I have a ‘19 power wagon you can use if you’d like. I’m in eastern North Carolina
Great video! You need to do a similar test towing trailers.
Hopefully the stars will align on the used car side lol 👍🏾
Great to see a side by side with 3.73 and 4.10. As far as air suspension, I have it in my 2020 2500 Limited MegaCab with the 6.4 Hemi (and 4.10). Makes the ride better and hitching easier. Highly recommend it.
Good stuff, thanks for sharing 👍🏾
Trying to decide between the 3.73 vs the 4.10. It’s going to be my everyday driver as well plus I pull a 32’ travel trailer a lot in the nicer months. Any advice between the two would be great. Thanks
@@nathancaldwell3949 As they say, better to have and not need than to need and not have. 4.10 all the way.
@@nathancaldwell3949 410 all the way.
Interesting, I just bought a Laramie 6.4 hemi, short bed 2500. Remind me not to buy one of these trucks you had tested. Mine had 10 miles on it but in driving it 500 miles home to save around 5K bucks, I read the "break in" period carefully since I had a long trip to do it right. So, I followed the instructions carefully. As an edit I wanted to say on its first 500 miles drive on highways, it was almost 15 mpg for the trip on the lyometer with multiple passes up to 7,000 feet and a lot of up and down and mostly around 55 to 65 for the first two to three hundred then highways with 80 mph into Montana. And me not letting it burn into a specific rpm as much as possible.
Speaking only to the 6.4 gasser, the manual says specifically to NOT put the petal to the metal like you did until after about 300 miles. Then it tells you to stomp on it hard for the next hundred to two hundred. An engineer said, it's because brand new pistons and associated newly put together engine parts are NOT perfectly mated being put together in separate production operations. The tolerances are extremely tight and good, with today's tech, but still not perfect. These components "optimally" should be first seated by babying it, to a degree, but with varying rpms but not stomping on it until all the parts and pieces are effectively "introduced" to each other in a low pressure situation, like any good relationship. The quotes were the terms he used. Then the manual says you want it to fully seat in at max rpms in short bursts like you were doing to ensure that the pistons are fully extended and better seat at the high pressures rpms. Fortunately living in the mountains, I was provided with multiple opportunities to do this.
The engineer said that was optimum, but not an absolute as they are designed to run like you were doing out of the box. He noted any "issues" you might have repeating might...would likely be long term and not likely noticable anyway... as you will probably get rid of it before any arose...
Edit: He said he would "personally" change the oil and filter after about 1,000 miles as any metal shavings because no production process is absolutely perfect, but he noted that was his opinion as an engineer who has designed and built engines. And, he said, do NOT play with viscosities on oil etc. as these things are now days carefully designed as a system... And you will certainly void warranties..
What would you if you needed off road capability (not too crazy but crazy enough) and a 2000 lb (wet weight) bed-popup camper?
I have the tradesmen level 2 with the 4:10’s and love it tons of power and it will tow everything I could ever need to tow
The negative I've heard on the 4.10 gear ratio is that the shift points are right around speed limits. So in a 30 mph zone you're right on the fringe of different gears (same thing at 45 mph and 65 mph). I heard that's annoying as hell on the 4.10. Oh and you're right on point about the tires those stock Firestones on Ram 2500 are absolute garbage.
I would live 4.10s in my '19 2500 Cummins! Thank goodness they went 3.73s standard beginning in '19 instead of the horrible 3.42s in the 4th gens! It's such a pain in the arse to regear a 4x4 and I was told they don't even sell gear sets for the new trucks anyways.
Be sure to use tow/haul mode for best economy and less shifting when hauling or towing
I’m thinking the key factors lie in how gentle or steady the operator is, regardless of the axle ratio. Acceleration should be somewhat better in the lower (higher numerical) ratio, and it’ll tow a bit easier. That said, from my use, I like the taller (lower numerical) ratio for my style driving. I am more interested in quieter and more economical highway cruising offered when the engine gets into its torqueband at 70ish mph. Great comparison. Thanks.
Good stuff 👍🏾👍🏾
@@JB_WhoWork you do a great job. Appreciate your thoughtful candor.
What the max towing for the hemi 3.73? With gooseneck
2022 Night edition Laramie 6.4 L 4:10 with the 285/60/R20 with the 8 speed. I do indeed get 12.5 to 13.0 Normally. We get much better Highway. I've been as high as 19. The acceleration is good when you need to get out and move it does. I would Definitely buy again. My cargo weight is 2999.
Do the changes the transmission gears between the two rear axles
They are the same, if you calculate the weight difference & energy requirements between the two. Sharing the 2 trucks weights is critical to understanding that; thank you for doing so!
Chevy increased their gvwr and ram needs to do same thing. 100% agree that would make the cummins 2500 hd more payload competitive
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Yea the ram 2500 payload is bulls**t not sure why they do that
DOT says they go by the weight the axles can carry and the weight rating that the tires can carry. Not by the sticker on the truck, you can modify the suspension for more stability but it doesn't allow you to carry more then your axles and tires will allow. Best thing to do is weigh your truck, then add your weight rating on your tires, then look at your axle ratings. Subtract the weight of your truck from which ever is less to get your weight capacity. From what I understand the manufacturers have to pay for weight ratings ( class of truck 1500, 2500 ect.) they put on trucks, so that is the reason for low capacity ratings. Plus it protects the manufacturer if something breaks. Alot of trucks carrying campers can have the rear axle overloaded from putting a long box camper on a short box truck. You can also take to much weight off the front axle and create a dangerous understeer, etc. condition.
Thank you for sharing your test results.
We sold our 2018 Ram 3500 and made money on it. It had the Cummins Diesel. Totally loved it.
Kick myself in the as* for selling it.
Ready to buy again after we sell our motorhome we bought.
Love the 5th wheel camping !!
I have a question for you,
I saw a truck at a dealership that said the truck (4 wheel drive) had both 3:73 and 4:10.
Is the front differential the 3:73?
I've been looking at RAMs recently, and also noticed the two ratios. I believe it means (at least the 2500s I looked at) that they come standard w/ the 3:73, but have 4:10 as an option.
I'd be interested to see a test showing observed MPG of each gear ratio vs what the computer says. Fill the tank all the way up, set the trip to 0, run the tank doing all tests, refill the tank, divide the miles on the trip by the gallons showing on the gas pump. Do that to each truck. That would show the real world fuel economy difference between the two.
Why do I need more gears on my differential if I left my trucks in 6 inches?
I have a 2006 Dodge Ram 1500 4x4 quad cab HEMI with 3.92 gears and these trucks accelerate way faster than my truck.
JB - I have a 2022 Laramie 2500 Hemi with factory airbag system and 4:10 gearing so it’s definitely available to buy!
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If you are ordering the truck check the box for 4.10 gears. For $145 it's a no brainer. If you took the truck to a differential shop to change the gears you're gonna spend $2500+ parts and labor to have both your axles regeared. So just pay $145 up front. Or if you're gonna spend the money to upgrade the gears later a 3.73 to 4.10 jump isn't worth the cost. Go to at least 4.30 or 4.56 for some good leverage for pulling. My 2013 5.7 Hemi I wanted to put 4.56's in but it only had the 6 speed. It towed my big boat (6600 lb dry weight, plus fuel, on a double axle trailer that probably weighed 2000 lbs. I figure 10K trailer weight) just fine but it was noticeably slow going up a hill from a stop and I wish I had 4.56 gears in it to get the weight rolling. Once moving or on the freeway it pulled it fine but it would downshift and rev out climbing hills. Can't be scared to rev the Hemi.
I would like to see a test between the two pulling the same trailer. The only factor would be due to wind. Great video's I wonder how close their fuel consumption would be after 3 hour's of hyway driving. I would like a true fuel to milage calculation instead of the one from the on board computer. I know a person with 3.55 and an 8 speed transmission. Pulling a trailer, the transmission won't shift past 6th gear and rpm is anywhere from 3000 to 4000.
Great video! Confirms my decision in a year or 2 to get the 4.10 gears and hemi. Was going to go diesel but the emissions equipment failing is a hard pass for me. Everyone I work woth that owns a diesel 3/4 and 1 ton say it's not a matter of if the emissions will fail but when...and that goes for all 3 brands. Not something I want to deal with down the road.
For what I tow (max 8.5 to 9k) and only being able to afford one vehicle a hemi 3/4 with 4.10s is it! Thanks for the video!
You can replace your engine for the cost of the after treatment system and get more life outta the truck.
@@TheGenerationX894 I'd do the delete...if it wasn't such a pain to do it and the lack of shops that sell the stuff and the worries of the emission police getting me. I want the diesel for towing between the power and exhaust brake...but it's hard to justify.
373 high speed gears
410 lower speed gears but pulls higher loads better.
I don't know what year it changed but on the 2022 6.4 the required fuel is 87 octane with no recommendation for 89 according to specs from the RAM website. I know it used to be 89 recommended in the past but I don't think it is anymore.
Thanks 👍🏾
I've noticed this too. My 2020 is just 87 per the owners manual as well. I had a 16 half ton that "recommended" the 89, so I was shocked to see 87 for the 6.4.
great vid I was wondering if 4:11 would be worth getting and for me nits not worth it. Have a great day.
Hey jb I have the 2021 Chevy 2500 custom just wonderful for towing with a payload of 3605.
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I have an 08 Hemi Megacab and I've tried everything over the years to get better mileage and efficiency from it. Superchips Tuner, 3 different brands of major CAI's. The only thing that's worked has been keeping it under 2000rpm and keeping your foot out of it when you're starting from stops and no Hard accelerations. Even then, it means the difference between 10.5mpg and 11.5mpg. And, I did a series of 10 tankful tests, in the early days, in 08, when gas was where it is now. I did notice that I get better mileage from certain brands. I stay away from Murphy/Walmart/Sam's Club gas and the Hess gas stations, of which there are none anymore. They gave my 9mpg, no matter what. Pretty much all the others, Exxon/Mobil, BP, Shell, I never tried Chevron for political reasons, and a few years later Wawa gas, all gave me the same mileage. I even tried using the Ethanol free gas and saw no real difference in MPG's.
It's a Truck, not a Hybrid.
For political reasons? Lol
@lareggiejones6617 well yeah. Back then Hugo Chavez was the primary owner of Chevron and he swore he would do everything in his power to destroy the United States. I didn't figure I needed to help fund his efforts. But kudos and respect to him, that at least he said out loud what the OPEC nations say in their closed-door meetings. Bit, he's been dead now for years. I'm not even sure who the prime share holders are now. Don't care.
At one time when I had the 6.4, I was seriously considering 4.56 gears.
The difference in a race between the two is the time lost switching gears. In the old transmissions that had less gears that were spread more apart, there was more of a difference. Where you will see a difference in acceleration will be with a heavy load but the 8 speed is geared so well that you will have the same power and total effective gear ratio but in a lower gear. In effect, the lower gear ratio gives extra overdrive gears for cruising. When towing, it will have to run in a lower gear and higher rpm at cruising. Both gear ratios with the 8 speed are a huge improvement over any of the gear ratios that the old 6 speed had. That’s in towing ability, off road performance, and fuel efficiency.
I think a great comparison would be with the trucks loaded. I think you'd see more of a difference.
I agree, I just have to find used ones to do the test 👍🏾
Ram specifies in their manual for 87 octane fuel very plane and clear. i keep saying people say 89 octane or Mid grade fuel but the manual that comes with the truck says 87
I can answer your test based on the gear ratios. The 4:10 will have more torque/launch/acceleration
The 3:73 will have the better fuel economy.
If you drive them both the same, same route, same fuel octane etc.
Way to go Dennis hahahaha 😆
I was wondering this. I bought one with 373 and sometimes I wish I had the 410 but I don’t tow that much.
3.73 did fine overall so no need to second guess your purchase 👍🏾
i have had my 6.4 with the 3.73 for about 3 years now and i have yet to hit 17 mpg, even on a good day. The most I got was 15.
Now just have to find a ram 3500 dually with 6.4 hemi
Haha that is a 🦄
Agree with you on the Chevy Custom. It’s my favorite look that Chevy has and that 6.6L gas engine can tow some serious weight. Solid value if those seats are comfortable for you, they are terrible for me.
Thanks for sharing bro 👍🏾
I'm gonna definitely need the 4.10 rears for max tow. I can't justify getting the diesel and that 10k up charge since I don't tow often mostly a weekend warrior. I'm also looking at the grand design 350G FW & 29g tow behind. So not getting the Cummins I'm definitely needed the 4.10
Our county sheriff is named Mike Hunt and he gave his son the same name, lol 😆
They are going to put up about the same numbers because there really isn't much difference between 373 and 410..The 410 might be a little better on hold shot but 373 gonna be close to it and get better mileage.
Just put Timbren bump stops on and forget the expensive airbags . They work great on Rams .
I think it's bonkers that people will run 80 psi in the rear when unloaded. There is absolutely no need to run them that high. 80 psi for max load, not unloaded. They could run those down near 50 psi unloaded. Much more even wear, better ride, less flats if running on run and rocky terrain and if on those roads, much less wear and tear.
How we think of gear ratios is a little off from reality. A higher numerical ratio. Lowers the cruising speed for best fuel economy. A lower numerical ratio, allows a little bit higher speed for good fuel economy.
Best fuel economy is found between 48 and 62mph. If a driver cruises faster than 65mph. Fuel economy is less important than speed.
I’ve said it before, and say it again - the recommended fuel is 87 on the 6.4 in the 2021 and 2022 manual. There is no mention, or improvement in using higher octane. I started with premium, and switched to just 87 within first couple thousand kms, and there was ZERO difference, including towing. The manual states the recommended number on page 472…if it states 89 anywhere else, please let me know because I have not seen it. Stellantis/FCA/Ram sure didn’t make this clear, because it used to be 89, and Rams USA website showed “premium” for 2021 and earlier (their site still shows premium under specs for 2021, but “regular” for 2022). Anyway, need to keep those facts clear as that cost is definitely important for anyone shopping a HD truck.
Yes sir
I would like to know, I bought a 22 last year and the dealer told me if I was going to use 89 fuel and if I was to keep using it, I've always heard hemis needed 89
@@RyanJohnson-ft6qi check your manual. It shows 87. Nothing about 89 (I referenced the page number above). It did show recommended 89 for the 6.4 in 2019, and I believe 2020, but for 2021 it was changed (always showed 87 as acceptable though). The Ram 1500 still shows 89 recommended for the 5.7. I asked the dealer why they changed the recommendation for 2021, and they seemed oblivious to the fact it was changed. I’ve run 87 for about 16,000kms now (including about 4-5000kms of towing), and it runs perfectly fine.
@@IntothewestOkotoks so what changed in 22 for 87 fuel is what the question is, did they change something in the motor
@@RyanJohnson-ft6qi I haven’t been able to get an answer.
I have a 3.73 and was wondering what the 4.10 was like. Been waiting to see a side by side comparison, so thanks for making this video! Just curious, why wouldn't you go above the Laramie trim on a Hemi truck?
For some reason these trucks do not sell well in higher trims with the HEMI. I think Ford didn’t offer the 6.2L back in the day with the Limited but they may offer the 7.3L now with it. Thanks 👍🏾
I only buy high end. My next truck will be 2500 6.4 Limited
Im actually not surprised on the acceleration. I mean you are shifting much quicker. But these engines have torque . If you wanna turn that into thrust you gotta have a rear that allows more speed between shifts. Honestly a 3.55 would probably be faster yet with that 8 speed. But certainly when you are pulling a load sure go for the 3.73 and 4.10
What's the tag on this one
My 1500 Outdoorsman, had 3.92 it pulled like a beast
Did I hear you say that your tire pressure was 80psi?
So the difference in fuel grade is ignition. The 87 is more volatile than the 89, then the 91. The higher octane allows the piston to make more compression, and that = more hp while the engine works less. You will get better mpg.
Nice video. I think you just made GMs case for switching to a 3.73 for the new 6.6 gas engine compared yo the 4.10 only for the previous generation 6.0. The acceleration was honestly too close to call (even though you got a screen shot of the 3.73 being 2 mph faster) and the fuel economy ended up being .3 better I think?
Anyways with modern transmissions with 6+ gears the 4.10 is unnecessary IMO. Now with a 4 speed auto it would be different. And Ford is just killing themselves with the 4.30 with the 7.3 and 10 speed. Not only is it killing fuel economy but it’s going to run the engine at a higher rpm all the time and wear it faster.
I’d pick the Ram with the 4.10 in this video though simply for the cab lights lol.
Lol! You make a good argument on the 7.3L but Ford did over build that engine so I’m betting as long as it’s maintained, it should withstand the additional abuse. I think they did the 4.30 just for bragging rights because that 10 speed has some deep gears between 1-3.
I’m still hoping GM updates the Powertrain for the mid fresh 👀
@@JB_WhoWork I think they are just fine. Mines got just over 4400 miles now. It’s pretty impressive.
Overbuilt or not an engine only has so many revolutions in it. I’d like to see a comparison on it anyway, a 4.30 vs 3.55 or 3.73 whichever is their other gear. I would bet people would be very shocked at the outcome.
I do like more choice though so for people that want it they should be able to get it. So there’s that lol.
4.10s are best for moving heavy weight. I have a gmc 99 surmburban 2500. Only 290 hp and 410 ft lbs. But with a 7.4 vortec motor. The 4.10 with G80 locks. Moves the weight well. You will have no problem from a dead stop with alot of weight. Trust me. If you care about gas mileage get 3.73 but also remember my gmc suburban also has over drive which keeps you out of the 4.10 range unless you really need it.
Buy a Dragy, it will give you much more accurate numbers and it's super easy to use.
You need a test of a 100 miles while loaded with the same weight. Then a acceleration and mpg average can be done with much more Accuracy
You can get rear air suspension with a hemi, it's a 1700+ add.
As others have said,4:11s were more necessary back when 3 and 4 speed autos ruled the land.now they mostly waste gas except for extreme duty towing
I have a 2019 Ram 2500 Bighorn crew cab 4x4. Carli leveling kit, 35x12.50x17 Nitto Ridge grappler's and stock otherwise. 3.73's... I live in Vegas. Average around town is 10.5 mph. Highway is around 13... I run 87 religiously. You got me thinking. Maybe I should try 89 and see what happens.
I would and try to run fuel without ethanol if you can find it 👍🏾
I have 35 Ridge Grapplers on Method Wheels on my Ram 1500 with 3:92 gears. (I realize not the same truck) They are exactly 30 extra pounds per corner, and that is a big increase in rolling mass. I love the way the truck looks and drives with the 35's, but I lost about 2-2.5 MPG. If I am taking a long trip towing, I switch back to my factory tires and wheels.
Let’s go brandon!
I know the 3.21 in the 1500 is ment to have better mpg. But, if you're living in hills and mountains like western pa, I think the 3.92 does way better. They dont keep downshifting to gain power. When we go to the smokys from western pa, we take back roads to 70 in md, (by the pilot), the hop over 81 and take that to tn. Ive taken this trip mire than 5x and every time i get 21 to 22 mpg. I have a bed cover with our crap, my wife, kid, myself, amd our 110lb German shepherd. And yes, it’s 4wd. No lift and I'm running general grabbers, the all season version, not the chunky ones. It’s a 16 crew, 1500, express with the 20s. As a former owner operator that hauled oversized loads for over 1 million miles, i do not believe you can be pulled over at random to be weighed. If you're a private individual, the dot commercial laws do not apply. Now if you make a trafic violation and get pulled over, thats a different story. They'll bend you right over the tailgate. Edit- I do use 89 all the time, unless I get it from Sam's club. They don't offer 89, so I get the 91.
Also would love to see a 3500 6.4 to see the differences mostly payload, but also if you could find a 2500 with coil and get it compared to the 3500 with leaf.
Thank you for the videos.
Good idea, I wish I could find a 3500 HEMI. I was thinking about ordering one lmao!
You can review mine once it shows up lol ordered it back in December 2021