Psychopath Child Puts Doctors on Edge | Chicago Med | MD TV
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- Dr Charles suspects a 10-year-old boy to be a psychopath and a danger to his family.
From Chicago Med Season 1 Episode 14 'Hearts' - Dr Choi and Dr Charles are tested with an erratic patient presenting unusual symptoms; Dr Manning is suspicious about the cause of a boy's broken arm.
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Met a boy like him once. He was charming, good looking, smart etc. Then you find out he put his infant half sister in the chest freezer and refused to tell his Dad and step mom where she was while they frantically looked for her. Yes, they found her quickly, by chance.
Sociopaths gotta be careful but don't fear. They fear no remorse or don't care for their actions like psychopaths
@@aliezahjuarez1212 Nope, that is not the distinction.
If the parents didn't get rid of him and get him mental help, they're just as messed up as he is
@@aliezahjuarez1212 sociopaths are emotional
Maybe the step mom put her own baby in the freezer to blame it on the poor child. That’s why “they found” the baby safe “quickly”… You gotta always be careful the stories step mothers tell you about their step children.
For everyone who thinks the parents reaction was unrealistic, I'd like to point you to the hoards of families who regularly go on TV and claim thier 5 times convicted violent felon of a son is just a good boy that made a little mistake. This issue is 100% real and parents like this deserve to lose their kids.
Couldn't agree more
Hordes
Woow
I think that last sentence is a little bit harsh. I'm betting it would be pretty hard for any parent to accept that your kid is a danger to you, himself, and everyone else around you.
@@premiumheadpats4150 if your kid is actively being violent, then it is 100% YOUR failure. They knew what he was doing, they let it happen anyway, it's either favouritism towards one child, or an unwillingness to deal with it because it would make them look bad to others. This EXACT mindset is why we now have an epidemic of mental illness, everyone just figured if they loved little Timmy more he would turn out ok, now we have entire hoards of young adults who think the appropriate response to someone disagreeing with you is extreme violence. Mentally sound people don't think that way.
I hate how people are like “He’s just a little boy!” when in fact BECAUSE he’s a little boy he should be immediately evaluated so that he can get to therapy. Same as when people dismiss bad behaviour because they’re still young, when they should be correcting it
It's just a phase.
He'll grow out of it. ...
@@bluecollarlitnah
@@poixses_ i agree with you. I just typed that in because it's what so many irresponsible parents say. I meant it as irony.
@@bluecollarlitthey don't grow out of it
@@kinglubu767 my comment was meant to be irony.
Domestic violence comes in all shapes and sizes. It's not always the husband. Sometimes it's the wife. Or, in this case, sometimes it's one of the kids. Sibling abuse is real and is not something that should be over-looked. Period.
Tru dat. My oldest brother has anger issues, they used to be alot worse. when he was 15/16 after our dad left for good, he started hurting us aswell. We were always fighting as siblings, maybe it was always that bad, idk, I was still young, but he started looking after us all weekend while my mum worked. My oldest brother basically used to beat all of us up, and sometimes my other brother (only a year younger than my oldest brother)
Had to step in, then they'd get into a huge fight. I just remember during every 'fight' screaming at the top of my lungs for them to stop, and hysterically crying, maybe I was dramatic, I was abt 8-10 during this time. I eventually started crying less tho during the fights, bc my mum called me a baby.
My oldest brother even broke my other brothers collar bone once. It was really bad. (i had 3 brothers at the time, this was the younger brother, he was older than me tho. I was the youngest)
My brother didnt stop after that tho. I remember one time my sister told the school counseller that my brother hits her (she had it worse)
She didnt say it as in "hes abusing me" or anything, she just said it bc it was clearly something upsetting her. When my mum found out, she went ballistic, started tryna make my sister feel bad for saying it, saying that the social services were gonna take her away and none of us were gonna see her again (that wasn't the case, she was just tryna scare us.)
As soon as I hit 10 years old, my oldest brother started hurting me aswell. I remember he grabbed my neck and slammed me against the wall once, I think that was the first time he properly hurt me. After that, it just became a normal thing. Ofc, my mum Continued to enable his behaviour and defend him, not protecting her kids, once again.
It only stopped when he moved out. He was gone for a couple years, now he's moved back in, and he still has anger issues. The thing is, he's 21 now, and its only getting worse, yet nothings changing. Luckily he doesn't physically hurt us anymore, just shouts alot and is really aggressive.
I get social anxiety around him.
Id be lying if I said the stuff he did didnt effect me.
Im sorry for writing this whole paragraph, happy new years
@@hello.6748 You need to protect yourself. You can call the police on him if he gets violent. The best thing you can do (when possible) is to get away from him.
I was being abused by my older sister emotionally until this past weekend where she physically assaulted me and threatened my children. I was living with her. Sibling abuse is real and it can get dangerous.
@@Slawwww_ oh my god are you safe
What's really sad is the little brother having to live in constant fear and probably feeling like his parents are choosing/protecting his older brother (who's the one doing the harm) over him.
His arm was broken before, and they preferred to let him suffer without medical treatment rather that let their other son get in trouble. If you're gonna choose to protect one over the other, for God's sake, choose the vulnerable one.
@@PandoraBear357 you'd really think so. I think my nostrils starting steaming with how angry those parents made me 😤😤😤
Scary
Yeah, know how the younger one feels, little brothers a bit abusive and I'm not allowed to defend or I would get in trouble. (I was told I was twice his size and wasn't allowed to pin him to stop him from freaking out and hitting me)
They ARE choosing the older brother over him.
The child actor who played the psychopath was fantastic! He nailed the subtleties of expression.
And his voice was perfect. Kind of reminds me of Nevel Pappermin from icarly lol
@@hayleydon8282 He reminds me of Tom Riddle before he became Voldemort.
y'all think its fake !
he's actually the head drum major at my school! he's really cool
I know! Even a real psychopath could not have done as good a job!
He literally resembles a psychopath in every way. He did such a good job playing the part. It’s pretty terrifying. He showed no emotions when his brother got very critical and was moved to surgery.
Yea pretty easy for an actor to do when it's not actually his brother or a hospital...😂
worst part is once he'd mature, he'd most likely become very good at mimicing and fake caring behavior and whatnot.
@@kinagrill he'll probably get so good at it hekk just live a normal life like a normal person.....
you must be a world class, leading psychiatrist to be able to know the intricasies and subleties that is identifying Anti social personality disorder. So much so that you know that psychopathy is not a real diagnosis anymore huh. Or that they dont even present this way. What an honour.
The mom knew something was up. Her reaction spoke volumes.
She was scared of him - or, at least, of what he does
@@valerierodger why didn't she just... Eliminate the problem in red?
Yet she refuses to do anything about it at the end of the episode
She was the one taking up for him...... She's just as much of a problem as the boy if not more
If you’re not a mom, you don’t know how it is to live a child unconditionally. Mix that with domestic abuse and a distrust of other people like the father has… honestly, this family has no chance.
This is tragic, even the child knows he’s in danger but the parents refuse to see the evidence, and will likely have to bury a child in the future because of their own denial.
So tragic! Griffin is like Damien from ‘The Omen.’
And they won't even be able to deny their guilt for this.
I’ve seen the end of the episode they cps take the psychopath child from the home
@@jillcrato1680 ever seen The Good Son??
@@booklover6403 No they don't, why lie?
Either the parents are too blind to notice or are in denial about it. One day, they will take notice of what's really happening and will regret their decisions.
I think they do know on some level - at the start the dad was worried about Griffin “making it worse” by touching Bo’s hand, and the mother freaked out because she thought Griffin had done something to Bo. Maybe they are, indeed, in denial and trying to sweep it under the rug
I smell denial. It's more powerful than fentanyl and more addictive than heroin. The mothers of Ted Bundy and Jeffrey Dahmer bathed in denial, even when they knew something was very, very wrong with their sons. As Dr. Charles said: "The heart will not accept what the eye can see."
Unfortunately it might be too late…if he can hurt people like that and the parents just brush it off it might result in the death or almost death of someone to make them realize the truth
Well, New Amsterdam did something similar soooooo... yeah
It’s a hard decision. It’s not easy. I’m not saying you’re wrong but having a child who is your own and having to separate him from the family is difficult.the regret comes later but in the moment you cannot comprehend such things.
I don’t understand how this isn’t considered child neglect when the parents are aware of the dangers this kid poses to everyone.
Because most sadly have been brainwashed to believe that all kids are harmless and innocent.
Because unfortunately there’s very little recourse for parents to take until the child is 18, at least in the US. My stepson threatened to kill me with a box cutter one night, so I called the cops and they took him for a psych evaluation. We were told the next morning that he was fine to come. Before that, I found him and my biological son, who was 4, in a situation where my son was laying face down on his bed with his pants pulled down, and my stepson hovering over him with his dick out. My stepson smirked at me and pulled his pants up without saying anything. Told his therapist who said that maybe he didn’t understand what he was doing…he was 14 at the time, pretty sure he knew. Again, nothing we can do. Thankfully he doesn’t live here anymore, he’s with my wife’s parents and isn’t welcome in this house unless I’m here. He’ll be 18 in a year and on his own, so just have to make it a year without him getting kicked out of their house.
@@oldboygamer9985Yup! We were told that the only way my sister could get long term care without us paying out of pocket was if she either killed someone or attempted to lol Uhhhh we were kind of hoping we could put her away BEFORE it escalated to that????
"I want to be a doctor". As someone who has been through medical school, this is a very true statement.
@@ee-mv3es it doesn't make any sense 💀
@@natashamerlinesarcasm is my only guess 😂😂😂 and bad English and use of phrasing the joke
It does. Power, prestige, and you get to play around with humans. There’s been plenty of doctor serial killers. I mean there’s a whole podcast dedicated to it
It could also be the interest. Studying medicine is like learning how people work as machines. It's like engineering, + humans. Psychopaths are often fascinated by humans and how they work. Hence manipulation is interesting to them. A doctor is a common profession for someome with antisocial traits. It also pays well, especially surgeons.
With too much empathy, you become unable to cut and sting people, even if it's to help them.
For me, I feel sick in a room full of anxious people. Being a doctor requires a level of being able to control your feelings - or not having such on the way.
When you have someone like that who wants to be able to have virtually unlimited access to their victims, you have a problem.
Kids aren't innocent little creatures. You'd be surprised what they can do. What the parents did was a huge mistake. He had clear signs of being a psychopath, but like the Doctor said. They were blind.
Some children are born by the devil
People tend to believe children are the epithome of innocence, but that can be a great mistake.
Mild example: a friend of mine stole a Christmas ball from a shop, but fortunately the parents found out and got the child to return that and educated them on how stealing is wrong.
@@aliezahjuarez1212 YES
@Cricket Hop THAT TOO
@Cricket Hop of course that too
it's truly scary to think that there are children out there that are psychopathic and considered dangerous
The brain is a complex thing - a slight misalignment of the neurons, a bad mix of hormones and other naturally-occurring chemicals...
I was diagnosed with ASPD or antisocial personality disorder when I was in elementary school. I didnt feel bad for things I did but I learned very quickly to say that I did. I ended up telling my family that I know there was something wrong with me in middle school and got therapy. Kind adults who taught me why I was different and how to lead a more successful and “normal” life was the greatest resource I was ever given.
@@creepy.cookie3187 thanks for sharing that was really insightful
@@creepy.cookie3187 not to make this a “race” thing but in a LOT of black families you’ve got a better chance at winning the lottery than getting a diagnoses for a mental health issue. Mental health literally doesn’t exist in our culture 🤦🏽♀️
You either get beaten or taken to church when something is off. Or both.
Said all that to say I’m pretty sure I have ASPD and I tried talking to my mother about it and she literally brushed me off and told me to go read a book. I don’t feel empathy for anyone or anything but I’ve always been very good at faking it to benefit me. I’m one of the best liars or actresses I know because of that and I’ve always wanted to talk to a psychiatrist or something
Yeah and some of them grow up and become part of society.
This was my older brother. Nothing happened to him. I got him put in a holding cell over night when I was 14 and he’s was 16 after I locked myself in the bathroom so I could call the police after I was somehow able to stay conscious enough in between him suffocating me over and over to push him off and run. They let him out and I refused to go back home. I moved out after that. Years later he ended up married with kids. Both of his kids were in and out of the hospital. He was eventually arrested for child and spousal abuse. My father disowned him but my mother is still in denial and blames me. I have no feelings towards my older brother, but hate is too nice a word for how I feel towards my mother who turned a blind eye my entire life.
I hear you about the feelings towards your mom. They are supposed to protect us.
Often with Cluster B personality disorders which includes Psychopathy (ASPD) the roots are in early childhood relationships with the primary caregiver.
Empathy usually develops at 2-3 years old as we mentally break away from our parents to become individuals. It's quite likely that your birth shifted his relationship with the mother resulting in ASPD traits.
Add to that from the sounds of it her inability to reel him in then imo you are quite right to leave for the sake of your own peace. Your brothers behaviour will catch up with him eventually but not before he wrecks people along the way.
I had a Malignant Narcissist boss and you almost don't believe people like that exist in society until you meet them.
As a friend of someone with Anti-Social Personality Disorder (which is slightly different but can manifest in similar ways), intervention at a young age is a HUGE help. While my friend may not be able to feel empathy as well as most other people, him being taken to proper therapy as soon as the signs were there helped him so much. He's a pretty chill dude and you can tell he cares about people, just not in the same way most people do. Lack of empathy doesn't automatically mean someone is going to be a bad person, but either way, intervention at a young age is crucial to help a child with ASPD be able to function as an adult.
Nooooo you can’t have empathy and have ASPD. people who have this don’t feel any empathy at all
@@hannahscott6604actually that's incorrect. Per the dsm-5 people with ASPD have an empathy deficit. ASPD is a spectrum, with psychopathy at the far end. Someone with antisocial tendencies can still care about the ones close to them, therapy helps. They might not exhibit the same level of empathy as a "normal" person would, but most are not completely devoid of empathy.
You are friends with a covert narcissist that has you believing something that is pure toxin. Don't irresponsibly spread such nonsense as you are much more likely to victimize others than "help" your friend.
ASPD is the diagnosis. Psychopathy is more of a legal term
@@hannahscott6604I have that I been diagnosed and everything I have empathy well depends, but I don't always feel bad but sometimes I do , but my doctor diagnosed me and everything so yeah ,you can't say that ,are u a doctor went to school
The actor who plays this kid gave off a good performance of being creepy.
How do you think House would handle this kid?
Better then these guys
@@lennarthagen3638 Think he'd have caught on sooner?
He'd have caught it pretty fast lol
House would have told them they have a little Jeff Dahmer or Ted Bundy on their hands, and if they don’t want their throat slit while they’re sleeping then they should let the boys in white take him away. The dad would want to punch him though. Lol.
@@queenla227 I am actually picturing House saying that right now in his sarcastic voice lol.
I saw the comment about what House would do, and we know it’d end with the mom crying hysterically, and the dad trying to punch House. Lol. But House would ultimately say, “Fine. Don’t listen to people smarter than you. Let little Jeff Dahmer or little Ted Bundy get you while you’re sleeping. Or worse, you live and your youngest doesn’t.” I can’t stand parents like this. Imagine knowing your child has murderous tendencies, and you take him home.
There was an episode like this on Law & Order SVU, and the kid was taken away. Seasons later he came back as an adult and murdered everyone in him family except one person.
I completely read that in House’s voice.
You must mean Born Psychopath, I love that episode and it’s sequel
There was also one one regular Lwa and Order where this little girl killed a younger boy and acted like it was no big deal. Liz got her off and at the end the little girl was eyeing another victim. Wish they did a follow-up on that one.
What episode and series
and he only didn't kill the sister because she wasn't home!! im so glad they revisited that episode
I was disappointed in the writers for never doing a follow-up episode on this case. I wanted to see the long term impact of them not listening to the doctors and for allowing that child back in the house.
Me too. It could still happen if the show is renewed again.
Wrong show for that. Try NCIS or something for the follow up.
@@taxat10n1sth3ftyeah NCIS is really good for follow up shows. So is cpd sometimes based on the story line.
In my mind I like to think the parents secretly killed their psychopath son realizing there was no saving him. Then they buried him and moved away. At least that’s how I think it should’ve ended
@@nave712Or he killed them.
I am a licenced psychologist and I can tell you that violence from one sibling against another - and in all possible forms - isn´t as uncommon as most people think. And it can start even at the age of 8 or 9 years old. Though the risk is higher to become abusive for children who suffered abuse themselves, it also occurs that a child turns violent against his toddler siblings even if there was no previous abuse.
Fracturing is differner😊
Are you referring to ASPD specifically or violence in general? I just took my psychopathology final today and while we were taught that conduct disorder is common in children who develop ASPD later on, I don't think we were told how common violence is at that stage.
A form of jealousy because he’s not getting all the attention as before his younger brother was born.
I disagree!! housewife PhD
Psychologists are just therapists. (And bad ones at that)You’re not a medical doctor, that’s for psychiatrists
I was diagnosed as a psychopath as a child, I felt no remorse for the things I did and no empathy for the people I hurt. I got therapy, that helped. What really helped was my parents not tolerating my behavior, I faced the consequences for my actions. Now, I'm still a psychopath, but I lead a happy life and am in a loving family; I just have to work hard to control my condition.
I realized I should clarify a few things. 1. True 'psychopath ' is not an official diagnosis, the proper term is ASPD (antisocial personality disorder). But some people interpret that as 'you just don't like being around people', which isn't always correct and doesn't accurately explain the disorder. 2. When I say child, I was twelve (which is a child in my opinion) when my parents were told that I show the signs of ASPD, and was 16 when I officially got the label. But I've been seeing a therapist since I was 7.
Interesting
So i understand that you comprehend empathy, but are technically incapable of feeling it. Now when you do something bad to someone, how does that make you feel?
As someone who wants to be a foster parent and may very well be placed with a child with your condition, do you have any advice other than discipline that is followed through? For example how important were physical, emotional, creative, or critical thinking outlets? I personally would like to put any 15+ child into EMT, police, or Firefighter cadets (I am at an EMT squad that has a cadet program) does that sound like a good or bad idea.
*PS having an empathic EMT is important but I have noticed the least empathetic EMTs are the best in real horror show situations and you got less than 30 minutes to live situations.
It might be rude to ask and I guess many people would think this is innapropiate, but I can't help it: Can you feel even an ounce of love for your family? Or would you sacrifice your needs for their wellbeing, not because it would be the right thing, but because you truly feel it out of love? Feel free to not answer if I'm being rude
Thank you for sharing, hopefully it'll help make "psychopath" less scary and more understood by others! I'm glad you're doing well.
As a parent of an adopted child with these antisocial traits from age 2+,I've begged for help for my son and gotten nothing. The system is beyond broken.
Edit: as seen today in our court hearing,hes going to beat this and get zero punishment. 🤦♀️
@@DoggyDoula There is no cure for people like us, as there is nothing broken. We just function differently.
Not all psychopaths are inherently evil. But... in my Nemeton, these gray stone walls are cold and shallow.
Everything is bland, boring, futile and a waste of time.
I don't like drugs, alcohol, being sober, food, anything. They're all the same.
So in such a world, what's there to do to alleviate the stale state of everything?
Cause in order to change yourself, first there has to be a desire. And you can only desire what you can't have, something you crave, something that makes you look forward to do. - achieve -
What do you even give to somebody that wants nothing?
I am not saying the systems mearuses in regards to such issues are bad. I am entirely denying their existence. Their only purpose is labeling. And even that it cannot do properly.
@@2Fat2Furi0us as it is so it be 🤷♀️
I just can't live in constant fear of a 17 year old who wants to hurt his own siblings just to feel something. He doesn't want to understand why he is the way he is and I can't change that,but I don't have to allow him in my life either.
@@DoggyDoula You shouldn't allow him in your life then. I left home at 14 and had to fend for myself, that was 13 years and two days ago. On my 14th birthday. His attitude will change if he spends a few months on the street, trying to get enough sleep. Either that or get a restraining order for him, plan his eviction. If he has a drug habit, offer him a large sum for a person his age, to just leave.
There's a lot less ethical things you can do.
Always fight. And teach his siblings to do the same. If you are an easy target, you will be treaded as such.
Once a sufficient amount of abuse has been dealt, you loose the will to react or even take steps to completely stop it.
He might just be a dumb child, and not a psychopath. Regardless. We still do not understand the human brain. It will be a lost battle to attempt 'fixing' something we do not fully understand.
So, take the easy approach, herd him towards a desired outcome.
@@DoggyDoula Also, you should understand that personally, I don't feel neither pleasure nor grief when inflicting pain on others. It's just a thing you can get on the habit of doing. Much like brushing your teeth. If he enjoys it, it might not be a psychopathic disorder you're looking at.
Figure out which websites he's visiting, maybe you can find something he likes and chat to him about it. Or you know, think stuff through.
You've got a few advantages as a young adult. Patience is one of those things.
Griffin: "The knives." Dr Charles: "What?" Griffin: "To help people."
If your kid abuses your other kid and you're more than aware of it but refuse to do anything about it, you should be convicted for that damage to that child on top of being convicted for gross child neglect.
Coming from a family that’s has a niece who is diagnosed as a psychopath, this is true. CPS can’t do anything unless my sister tells them to remove her from the home and she won’t do it. My niece has harmed everyone in the home, has tried to kill her 3 year old sister, and has set multiple fires because she wants too. She doesn’t understand empathy or guilt. She’s only 7.
Edit: can people stop pretending to be doctors please and put done the google search.
1. She is getting help
2. She was diagnosed with psychopathy from multiple mental health specialists. But they used different wording. I just don’t remember what they said. They just gave me the break done of it.
3. Obviously if it’s my family with our doctors and it’s an ongoing issue we are covering it. Stop assuming nothing is getting done.
4. If you’re not a doctor in the realm of psychiatry, psychology, neuropsychology, then you don’t know wtf your talking about. So stop pretending. I mean it’s funny to see different responses, until it becomes insulting.
Hate to say, but whatever happens, your sister is responsible for. She can do something NOW, and simply doesn't want to. I hope the inaction is worth it in the end for her.
Diagnosed as a psychopath? That term was put to bed long ago. Sociopath. Pay attention.
I can only pray for your family. that the girl has gotten the help she needs and she is well taken care of. God bless🙏 ❤
@@G00NIE it's actually antisocial personality disorder now
@@G00NIE psychopathy
When I was a foster parent, I had an 11 year old; his psychiatrist told me that there was no helping him, and that "the best we could hope for was that he'd get arrested before he kills too many people." He was removed from our home after he pulled a knife on one of our other kids. Scary!
Do you know what happened to him?
@@NH-tb2sm no. I googled him for years with no results. Hopefully that doctor was wrong and he changed.
That's awful, giving up on a kid like that. There are things to be done and I hope he was put in a safe facility.
So scary! Hope he is locked up. Glad you tried to help him though.
@@ladyfoxwf1075 it’s not her job to tolerate and try to help someone she’s not qualified to help.
"The heart will not accept what the eye can see." This is so true in other circumstances. I had so many RED FLAGS of my husband's affair before I discovered it. I should have reacted sooner, I should have checked his phone or computer; I would have found out in another way. I found out on Day One of my family's vacation.
Props to this kid. He's doing really good with this role and this portrayal of psychosis in kids. I'm honestly really shocked at how well he delivers his lines and how he makes even the audience squirm in their seats a little bit. Props to the young man, hope he does more in the future.
Psychosis and ASD (psychopathy) are different. The kid has signs of ASD. Now with psychosis, it's more like hallucinations, paranoia, delusions, etc. A lot of people with psychosis aren't a danger to themselves or others and some do have empathy. I'm someone who has symptoms of psychosis.
@@trinitylivingston1286 ASPD not ASD (Anti-social personality disordee vs austim spectrum disorder
Even fake blood can freak a kid out. This kid has a great future as an actor.
This isn’t psychosis it’s psychopathy
@@PaulaDautremontI feel anxious when touching my stained napkin because of my menstrual blood.That's why I don't want to enroll nursing in college.When I touch blood,my hands were shaking
I love my kids, but my middle child started showing social/ mental issues. We started getting help. They are great now. Love means making the hard decision. They are willing to alow him hurting them. Not realizing he will hurt far more than them.
was the hard decision euthanasia
What a good Mama 💕 most would turn a blind eye to save themselves the “embarrassment” of getting help. Idk you but i know you’re a great mother
You have my respect and admiration for making a difficult decision and doing the right thing for your family. Too many parents just want to bury their heads in the sand and pretend it's not happening; that generally doesn't play out well, and also hurts the child who's having problems and desperately needs help.
That is exactly what you should have done but some people seem to think that getting help(either for yourself or someone close to you,like a child) is an “embarrassment to them” when in reality no one is going to look down on you for getting help,and if everyone was like you there wouldn’t be such a stigma on mental health….you did a great job for your child
Great parents 😊😊😊 the world needs more of this!
Give that kid an Oscar! I’m convinced he’s crazy. 😅
Emmy for TV, but yeah! There was another episode that I think was also maybe Chicago Med where an older girl hurt her little brother and she was phenomenal too. There’s a scene with the actor playing the psychologist trying to engage with her as a treatment and the way she manipulated the situation was scary to watch, even knowing it was all acting!
@@piratesswoop725 I think the series you’re referring to was New Amsterdam… if it is, then I completely agree with you. That little girl was truly scary, she used the psychologists logic against him so she would get away with everything.
@@piratesswoop725 Who cares what the award is he can get a gold star and that episode you’re referring to with the little girl was from new Amsterdam. I agree, She did well too. Double gold stars ! 😂
You shouldn't say crazy though- that's really offensive
He reminds me of kid Voldemort.
If I had the power to, I would 100% nominate the actor who played the psychopath kid for an Emmy. He absolutely nailed his role. Damn creeped me out too.
Fr when he said he wants to be a doctor because of the knives😭bro
Can we talk about what a great actor that little boy is? He portrays a crazy person so well.
“To help people” loolll
This reminds me of an svu episode of a child that was also classified as a psychopath (and later returned in a later episode). Parents don’t want to accept that there’s something wrong with their children, or them being classified with a mental disorder, and will try to solve it or explain it in their own ways instead of actually dealing with the issue. You can’t just ignore the fact that your child is seriously hurting you and/or their siblings. There’s regular child traumas and then there’s serious, life threatening injuries. This is how people and families get killed; by not accepting or seeing the signs that are right in front of them.
Is the episode your talking about the one where the Older brother kept trying to basically kill his sister and mother but the mother kept babying him? During the near end of the episode he’s in an indoor playground and has taken a younger boy hostage? Is that the episode your talking about?
@@melanievanbuskirk9436 I believe it's the one. It
sounds right.
Yes that’s the one. It depicted a psychopathic child really well and what happens when you don’t get treatment or help.
Great show ngl
Those episodes was so good
I understand that the parents love both of their kids, and don't want to lose them. But putting your kids' lives in danger for the sake of others is wrong. The kid is going to grow up in fear and believe his parents cared more about their dangerous sibling than them. Psychopath can change their behaviors and lead a normal life if they got the help they needed in time, but if their parents refuse to accept their kid's personality disorder they are going to get worse, especially those with violent behaviors.
I’m sure Jesus can take that away too alongside therapy.
Woow
PDs can NOT be fixed or helped in any way at all
NONE
Get away from them
Get them away from you
Stay away
The entities are not even human
Vast majority of abusers are PDs
Could you do it? I know this is TV, but I feel for those parents. They want to protect both of their kids. They likely just don’t know how or feel they have it under control.
@@BlueDauntless By putting the dangerous one in a facility they ARE protecting both kids. To think they get to keep both at home is quite literally the opposite, it's pure selfishness.
“He’s only ten!”
Every elementary teacher who has taught more than five years: “What’s your point?”
Kids with no empathy are terrifying. A proper sociopathic kid will haunt you. I had one in first grade almost fifteen years ago. He’s out there somewhere as a young adult now. His family moved away before the school year ended but I think about him randomly.
Yeah, I imagine a lot of families that have such a child move a lot, staying a step ahead of expulsion or diversion to a special needs program, or for child services or law enforcement to get involved.
@@kentvesser9484 Pretty sure they were just drug mules and moved a lot anyway.
I met a kid like this. I'm a tutor so I've met all kinds of kids and even parents.
One kid that I was teaching was fine, never a problem, well mannered and behaved.... Until his little sister was born.
It's common and normal for a kid to be jealous of a new sibling, but this kid took it to another level. At first we noticed minor behavioural changes, he got quiet. Then suddenly he flipped out. Over a a few weeks, he was hurting other kids at the school by pushing or hitting them. He would steal and break other students belongings, he would burst into other classrooms and create mayhem. He broke a couple of guitars, pushed over a very expensive keyboard, and punctured holes in walls using a pen. Screaming, yelling, swearing Very destructive. I couldn't believe what I was seeing. I couldn't handle it anymore and had him expelled from the school (should have from the first incident) and his parents were in denial that their son was doing this.
Then we later learned that he was in fact harming their pet bird at home, rough with his baby sibling and very back chatty to his parents.
Thankfully he was receiving therapy and was doing well. I often think about the kid and hope that I'll never have to see his name on a 'wanted' list.
It's sad how often this happens in real life too. I've heard stories of kids admitting to their parents how troubled their mind is and their parents doing the right thing and getting them to a hospital, but there are also parents who continue to keep their kid at home and then the kid ends up severely harming or even killing the sibling or other family member.
Let's not demonize ASPD like this, you meet people with it aaaall the time. Genuinely almost every day. And you don't even realise. It's really a shame to see popular daytime TV only showing ASPD like this and portraying it as/calling it psychopathy and dangerous, IN A CHILD no less. And having the main characters (=the moral compass of the show that the audience is meant to agree with) ALL claim the "right thing to do" would be to send a child away and treat him as a monster. There are no other portrayals of it in this show, this is the impression it leaves on the layman watching it.
Kids with ASPD are treatable and all around you. Most live with their families, and end up leading perfectly good and normal lives.
There was a dr phill episode about this. A child wanted
To SA their sibling and told the parents over and over and they didn’t do anything until finally it happened 😭
the acting skills of this boy are amazing...he gives me chills
I hope it doesn’t have a long-lasting psychological affect on him later. Actors, even adults have stated when they have studied the person they are protesting, it affects their own personal life causing to struggle getting back to their own character and personality. Children actors have been affected with the same problem.
Met a child psychopath once in my medical career. The ER doctor touched his eyeball and the kid didn't even blink. He had tried to drown his younger brother in the bathtub and thought it was funny. Smiled the whole time. I was scared out of my mind.
There are parents who will stand by their psychopathic child even after theyve been convicted of the most horrendous crimes - it makes me feel physically sick that they put their precious child over the safety of others because they are living in deep denial of their precious little prince
When he closed that curtain and the alarms went off, whew 😥 I was so scared for his helpless little brother!
Kid fr just sniffed the blood like it was fine wine
On god I’m bussin
stop talking aboutv kids like this they are not crazy they are sick
stop making comments like this about other people id rather be around dogs they are loving
@@katiecurrie9709 hi hello did you know that this kid is an actor 🤩 and this is a tv show 🤩🤩
I once had a student like this. He was 11, and in a 20 year long career in Education, I've never seen a child like him again. It shows how rare this is.
This kinda hits close to home, no matter how much i tell my parents when i was a child how my brother bullies me and emotionally affects me, they just turned a blind eye, ignore, invalidate and even gaslight. Growing up i became really anxious as a person with poor self esteem. Its better now tho. My brother is now in his 30s,never got a job, a literal entitled manchild with huge temper, all due to my parents' dysfunctional denial and enabling. Sheesh. It was really an asylum household that i'm glad i'm now out of
I'm not a parent so I can't even begin to comprehend how difficult this entire situation must be to everyone involved, but if one of my children was so scared of another of my children that he set off a heart monitor like it was about to explode while he was unconscious, some kind of drastic measure must be taken no matter how painful for the parents they have to do what's best for both their children.
Easier said than done!
Of course it’s easier said then done, but if you’re not able to make the right decision to protect you and your family then you failed as a parent🤷🏾♂️
It should be noted that psychopathy in and of itself doesn't automatically mean that the person is going to end up a serial killer. In its broadest definition, a psychopath is someone who due to various causes, understands concepts like empathy, love and remorse, but is unable to properly feel them. This is what makes it far easier for them to fall into this downward spiral of violence and revenge.
Though there is no treatment for psychopathy, if it is diagnosed early and fought accordingly, the affected child can then very well learn to understand the idea of consequences, so although it is more difficult, psychopaths can lead a pretty normal life without the need to descent into madness and violence. It's just that these people will be more out for themselves and will have less hesitation in taking more reckless risks in pursuit of their goals.
That said, cases like this child here are very delicate and need to be approached with caution and patience. Having a psychopath manage their symptoms in the long term is nearly always a lifelong endeavour that requires commitment.
I appreciate your open response to this
I recently heard a sociopath say in an interview that he learned "cognitive empathy" in group therapy while he was incarcerated. Basically, he was taught to think through "what is this person feeling, and what is the appropriate response?" Ultimately, his motivation is his son. He does love his son, and since he knows that his son has probably inherited his genetic tendency toward sociopathy, he has to try to nurture him as best as he can so that his son doesn't have to go through the same hardships. I heard another sociopath interviewed who had even more trouble relating to others (I'm no expert but I think he fell more into the psychopath category), so he was taught a system of morals that benefits him personally without harming others. When he relapses into antisocial behaviors, he's "putting chaos into the world," and that usually causes consequences for him. When he conforms to social norms, life is easier. With the therapy, he got to where he actually likes having friends and maintaining a relationship with his family.
Best comment, thank you for knowing the difference between psychopaths and serial killers. My boyfriend is psychopathic and he is amazing, like the best partner i ever had ♥
Exactly. I went to school with an individual who was a medically diagnosed psychopath. And while it isn't something she openly shared, it wasn't something she was ashamed of either. It was simply who she was. She didn't feel emotions the same way most people do, but she was intelligent and had been taught cause and effect and was very aware that other people had feelings.
Psychopaths are disproportionate amongst surgeons. They aren't necessarily bad people.
Those parents know full well about Griffin based on there reactions. "Get away from your brother!"
I need a hospital like this. Freaks out over cold hands and elevated heart rate.
@Hello there, how are you doing this blessed day?
Couldn't DCFS remove the other kid? He's in danger and the parents are being negligent in protecting him from it
They recommended the child be removed from the home, but the parents refused, so nothing was done.
To many parents are in denial when they have a monster
Look at all the shootings for starters
Probably one of the most accurate depictions of what denial can look like of parents that refuse to acknowledge their child’s mental health problems, it’s not real but it’s still jarring because things like this do happen….
Lose one child or lose them both, tough decision but ultimately as a parent you're suppose to protect them, even from themselves
CPS can open a case due to the childs injuries especially the unreported fracture and get a court order for the parents to have a psych evaluation on the child. The courts could them order treatment for the child or the removal of the other child that is in danger.
CPS did recommend that the child removed from the home, but the parents refused, so nothing was done
@@darreylhenderson702 CPS doesn't need the parents permission to remove a child from the home. If the parents refuse to remove the child that is a threat CPS will remove the child that is in danger.
I suffered a tragic loss when my parents refused to acknowledge my younger sister's sociopathy,she became more and more abusive and violent and eventually destroyed herself with my father's enabling and died a terrible tragic death at 43.Denial can be so dangerous in cases like this.I will never get over losing my baby sister at first to mental illness and later to an early death.This clip is spot on about how much denial there is about this subject and its almost always too late before those responsible do anything about it.
As a kid growing up in the 90s I remember I encountered the kid just like Griffin he would do things and make it look like I was the one who did it until finally I spoke up and said what was really going on and it was satisfying seeing that kid get his ass kicked by his parents.
Wow
As someone with ASPD please realize not all of us are to this extreme. But that doesnt mean that there arent cases so much worse than this
Less than 5% of people that have mental issues show violent behavior, but obviously the overwhelming majority of people aren't. Because good amounts of doctors, scientist, and politicians show traits similar to psychopathy
Thank you for sharing
I’d also like to point out that having ASPD does not equate to m psychotic killer.
Most famously known serial killers did not have ASPD.
@@PhysicallyAwake I've always thought unchecked ASPD could lead to criminal/deviant behavior later in life, I'm no phycologist so I'm a reference to use
Yeah I had a former friend who I wondered if she had this
Okay, so the parents didn't consent to committing Griffin. I don't understand why DCFS didn't remove Bo from a clearly unsafe environment or why Chicago Med didn't report abuse to the police to force their hand.
I would love for them to do a follow up episode all these years later to show that either Griffin got help and is now doing better or that’s he never did and the doctors’ worst fears came true
They did something like that on " law& order SVU" in which a sociopathic kid got released and ended up killing again.
Yes they so should do a update
This child actor nailed the disassociated lack of affect with fained empathy in the presence of others.... very well. I hope he's not a method actor .
I've never heard of this show before, yet here I am at 4.30am binge watching clips for the last hour 😅
Watch the show it’s so good
I get it that they don't want to be parted from their Griffin but they are so stupid in endangering their youngest son. How stupid can they get?
I don't understand how this kind of symptom could happen to kids so young even infants it's terrible and even when he was right next to his little brother and just drawing his little brother's body knew he was in danger.
It's a psychopath. It's actually the easiest to spot the younger they are. Kids are innocent or a at least a symbol of innocent and when you have a children who goes against that you can see there is something wrong. From there it is just looking at how there are reacting to something. Like when the emergency alarm was going off he was sitting there drawing with a smile on his face. Or when the mom hand was burned he said she was clumsy so happy instead. He lacks that emotional connection to his own family which is a sign he has psychopathic tendencies.
there are six year olds that have done multiple murders. just like women serial killers, children who are serial killers could be very common but since no one likes to think of the possibility no one looked even when the evidence was in plain sight.
You're born with it in many cases. The frontal lobe doesn't develop properly during pregnancy and this is a result of that
Coming from a family that’s has a niece who is diagnosed as a psychopath, this is true. CPS can’t do anything unless my sister tells them to remove her from the home and she won’t do it. My niece has harmed everyone in the home, has tried to kill her 3 year old sister, and has set multiple fires because she wants too. She doesn’t understand empathy or guilt. She’s only 7.
You would be surprised how many people you know suffer from the same thing. Its easy to adapt and hide it, you just have to learn to observe other people's reactions and mimic them. Not hard at all to fake it
"The knives..." haunts me every day since I've watched this episode
I’ve been the little sibling in this scenario. It doesn’t change. Even into adulthood. In the 90’s my parents were told that it was their fault and nobody would help them except to threaten to arrest them. My parents hands were tied. They tried to get him out of the house many different ways and no professionals would support them and they risked getting all their kids taken away and being sent to jail. It’s not something people understand unless you’ve lived it.
Sometimes even if parents see it they don’t act on it because they fear being labeled bad parents. They also think that they can love their kid into being better. I have ASPD which as sociopathy and psychopathy under its umbrella. I was violent and hurt my sister severely on multiple occasions. My parents thought I would grow out of it. As I got older and without treatment my behavior got worse. I was ultimately forced into treat which helped but I was at the age where most of my personality defects were set.
If this was a case in real life, would the parents have an alternative intervention other than out right removing the kid?
hope you doing better❤
@@toastedbread1362 Truthfully placing the child with ASPD to an in patient facility. Medication, therapy and corrective behavior conditioning the child can be reintroduced to the household. The family needs to be active participants in treatment to reinforce that the child is still loved.
@@holiheinrich2115 I still struggle with empathy but I’m no longer violent. All in all I’m better than when I was younger. Thank you for the well wishes
I worked in a special care home ( dedicated to psychiatric) … youngest client , 16 year old teen boy. In care since he was 9. Paranoid schizophrenia, auditory and visual hallucinations.
He was very artistic but , this is the clear visual of his mindset . When picture depict murd3r, torture…. Severe animal abuse while presenting as kind, courteous, highly intelligent and extremely antisocial.
No cognitive behavioural therapies given at early stages of diagnosis. This resulted in - no self control, not able to de-escalate from high anxiety/stress/ . Emotional regulation can be nonexistent 😢
Cognitive behavioural therapies works but, needs time ( sometimes years ) of continual therapy ( starting as soon as possible ) once sociopathic behaviour has been identified.
This video brought back some memories for sure .
My heart goes out to any person who cares for a loved one who suffers from this condition . ❤
Here's the thing. I know the parents want to protect their psychopath child because he's their child, but their other child is in more danger, so they should be focusing on him first by making sure the psychopath can't get to him. This, in my opinion, is a situation where you unfortunately have to choose one child over the other for their safety.
Psychopaths like these cannot be helped. They need to be kept away from society before they do something that we then would regret about not stopping earlier.
Sad really!...no parent wants to believe that their own kid is a psychopath.
Unless their a psychopath.
Then they could kill people together.
Doctor Charles seen it.. and clearly the young man is disturbed, parents are blind they don’t want to see it happening and needs serious series help before he do harm to his family and others.. very scary!
The parents upset me the most, especially the mother’s naivety. She has a small child to protect and she’s standing there lying with a burn on her arm inflicted by her son.
Ya that kid creeped me out from the second he talked. That's not how kids actually act, that's a kid acting like the grownups around him because he's mirroring and doesn't actually know how to act like a kid.
Real question here. If DCSF takes Griffen away from the family, whay happens from there? Do they get him therapy to help him or do they just foster him and ignore his psychological issues?
I think "THINK" theres a mental ward for kids
He'd most likely be sent to therapy/a residential program.
Depends on the state's funding and budget. During a recession, the deeply disturbed kids typically get dumped in foster homes with vulnerable victims and run wild. Some are molested by older kids or adults and eventually become the monsters we hear about on the evening news. As they become teenagers, girls typically turn to prostitution; boys often become violent offenders.
The REALLY fortunate kids are put into clinics where they receive help. Sometimes it works. Often, it's too little too late.
lobotomy
It would be more likely that DCFS would remove the brother who is at risk if the parents didn't get Griffin treated.
“When he comes home…I’m gonna take care of him..” (Creepy smile)
I wish they'd done a part two to show the downfall of the parents choice to keep the child home. An episode where someone In the family is on the brink of death because of this boys actions.
@Hello there, how are you doing this blessed day?
Yeah, They did a follow-up episode like that on " law& order SVU" , about another sociopathic kid who got released at 18 and then started killing again.
Dr. Charles is one of the nicest and best man to be alive he is a great psychiatrist and is there to ensure the best health of his patients we need more psychiatrists like him.
Its every parent’s job to protect their children, even from their other kids if they’ve proven they’re a danger. Letting something like that fester is only gonna lead to something exponentially worse and they’ll be forced to confront it. It’s crazy that psychopathy can develop at such an early age.
It is a condition ppl are born with. Socialpaths are developed, psychopaths are born
That's why having kids should be a privilege and not a right. Not everyone deserves to be a parent.
I'm just gonna say it! This kid's acting is on point!
Bravo to that young actor he gave me chills
I don’t understand why they didn’t kill him
Grew up in the suburbs and and I’ve seen parents defend their kids no matter how wrong they are.
This is exactly why I never was excited about turning 18. Everyone believes turning 18 is a big deal. No expects a kid to be a school shooter or a harm towards others for no other reason besides the kid being under 18. If you are 17, people don’t see you capable of harming others. If you are 18 or above then they consider the possibility that this person can cause harm. I don’t give children the benefiting of any doubt just because they are under 18 or elementary school children. There is a strong possibility that someone can be a harm towards others. That is why people often fail to detect school shooters or other type of kids who can cause harm: They don’t think a kid or a kid under 18 is capable of doing so; so they would turn a blind eye.
Okay then not removing Griffith from the family isn't that abuse to the boy who is terrified and being hurt wouldn't they remove the little boy from the family CPS would do that wouldn't they I've been involved with CPS I mean they take children out of homes due to neglect and abuse this little boy is being abused by his brother and the parents aren't doing anything about it they would remove the boy from home
There's no concrete proof that the child is doing the abuse unless the victims admit it or someone else witnesses it. The whole family is denying anything happened
The fact that the doctor saw a child touch someone’s blood and didn’t ask him to immediately wash his hands is either negligent or unrealistic…
I'd definitely be more concerned about this circumstance if the boy was my kid.
I can’t believe the parents they know full well he has issues and instead of thinking of the well being of their other son who’s clearly disturbed by just his presence alone and get him help they’d risk losing one or both of them by letting his issue go untreated
The child actor did a great job, his acting gave me goosebumps
This is one of those occasions where "Let kids be kids" cannot come into play
I'm living with one now. Even when the parents see what he does, the mother is in denial. He's pushed his dad off the stairs. It won't be long when he goes after the mother.
Hopefully I'll get find a new place to live when that happens
I’m so sorry. I know if someone too. I can’t imagine living with someone like that. I hope you can get out of there soon.
Letting that child see those things in that hospital was a huge mistake. To be that terrified I can't stand when parents are blind. The parents deserve everything that will come the innocent person these psychos hurt is another thing all together.
Kid: "I wanna be a doctor"
Dr.Charles: "oh yeah, why's that?"
Kid: "THE KNIVES."
Dr.Charles: "Whut o_O"
I laughed at this comment so much, I literally spent 15 minutes looking for it just so I could like it!
I'm glad I could make you laugh! @@jgon015
The acting is so spot on in this episode it’s unreal. What really stands out is Griffin being so certain in his superiority complex that he mistakenly presumes people to be dumb enough to buy an innocuous statement said with a smile following an unhinged comment like when he said he wanted to be doctor ‘for the knives’.
Wow, good episode. Such a shame. At least they tried. As a Social Worker, I agree, sometimes the biggest problem is not the child but the parents who won't follow the recommendations of the Professionals, then most of the time they contact services when in crisis when they could have prevented it, and helped to create a stable home for their entire family...
7:53 He's calmly drawing little knives, and armed people 😭😳
wtf I had to go back to see it but, do you wonder if that's why Bo got hurt and was thinking he was in danger?
Little monster...
@Katelynn Probably, I think it’s his presence that is unsettling to Bo and he might have done something else to bother him as well.
As a parent I can't imagine going through something like that. But obviously I would never allow one of my children to continue being harmed by a sibling, I would get that child doing harm psychiatric help. But I'm also raising my children the right way to never harm a person or animal or anything for that matter. My kids are very happy and loving kids with a lot of empathy towards others ❤️
My brother who was older then me by 5 years was like this. I barely made it out of childhood alive. But the scars, the scars never heal. NEVER.
Can't imagine what it's like to have a psychopathic child. We would all like to think our child could do no wrong. But some parents has to accept that their child is more than capable of doing wrong.
Some people don't know or they do know and ignore it
I think
They'll realize their mistake after Beau is dead.
Or the mother or someone else. He's already burnt the mother's hand.
Mommy's clumsy. That kid is a good actor, very chilling.
The heart will not accept what the eye can see.... powerful
Holy crap that kid can act!
I was thinking the same thinggg