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When my daughter was getting braces, the doctor locked the door from the waiting room. When I asked for it to be unlocked, they refused. The receptionist told me I could not see my daughter so I threatened to go over the counter. We changed Orthodontists after my daughter said she didn’t like him and the nurse said no one goes in the room with him. Not havin’ it.
Yeah that’s mad suspicious 🤨
Hope you reported him to the licensing board in your state
That was a crime.
@@azwndrwmn9713 our new Orthodontist did. Carried more weight than a middle class mom who acted so badly in a doctor’s office. No lie. This was 30 years ago. Women are still considered hysterical when putting their foot down.
Thats wild my orthodontist when I was kid didn't even have doors on the room
You gotta respect the mom for making sure it wasn’t the step dad. Too many people refuse to believe it when their child is being victimized by a friend or family member.
This is unfortunately very true. My mom was being assaulted by a family member and when she told her mom she made her apologize to him for “making up rumors”. It definitely causes me to look at my grandma different.
THAT'S A MOM! You don't rule out anyone until your child is safe and the culprit caught! Your child's saftey & health should ALWAYS come first!
I do respect her for it. However, at the same time if I was the husband, this would be the end of the marriage for me. I wouldn't want to be married to a woman who believes I'm capable of such a thing.
@@SamI-lw9xp True, but I guess you can never be too sure. So many believe their spouses are incapable for doing terrible things because they believe to be so good. That's how so much child abuse goes undetected. That's how child victims grow up with even more issues, mental illnesses and thinking it was their fault, angry at the world, because their mothers and fathers (usually their mothers) refused to believe them about what their husband was doing to their child.
With the type of world we live in, we can never instantly be too sure, especially when it's happening/happened in your own home.
I personally wouldn't blame her for checking with me if I were married to her. Especially if I weren't the biological parent. If I were the parent, I'd rather be safe than sorry and potentially ruin the kid's life even more.
Until the person you’re accusing is innocent. What the mother did was great for her daughter, but terrible for her marriage. If I was that man, I could NEVER trust my wife with anything after that. I’d be going straight to the courthouse to file for papers, and find a partner that does trust me. If she has trust issues, and would actually consider her life partner that she has made vows to, she has no business in a marriage, and she needs to focus on raising her daughter. Don’t drag an innocent man into your house, then accuse him of attacking your daughter when YOU didn’t protect her.
She wasn't cognitively out of it, she said "i just got my braces done", she knew, she just couldnt make her brain say the right thing.
So sad !
Nice catch
exactly, because it's too confusing...
You're probably right. Why bring that up if some part of her didn't know?
Facts
Step-dad of course shouldn't have been surprised that he would be a suspect, but yes, the fact that he immediately said he would do pretty much anything that would prove his innocence was admirable and eliminated him.
No the words wouldn't have proved him pretty much innocent bc you hear abusers say this all the time when they feel like can't get caught. It would be the actually doing absolutely anything to help that would prove it.
@@adakoehn9101 yeah sometimes they will say those things bc they feel like it’ll make them seem less suspicious
@@adakoehn9101 there’s a Steve Wilkos episode where that happened. And STEVE STARTED CALLING HIM OUT AND MAKING FUN OF HIS FAKE ASS! I thought Steve was gonna whoop his ass. Look it up
@@BlackKnight-ll8qh I absolutely will.
@@BlackKnight-ll8qh Except you know those are scripted right, lol
The fact that a dentist did this 🤮. People are disgusting
It's a show.
@@sky_beast5129 it happens in real life
Not only that but it’s like how can they possibly in such a limited window of time. Makes no sense how they can’t just get caught.
@@sky_beast5129 Did you know that there are nurses and doctors who take turns sexually abusing coma patients because they won't wake up and tell anybody? It's a sick world out there.
@@sky_beast5129
Life imitates art.
Based on the fact that the girl said almost immediately that she got her braces on when asked what's wrong says to me that she already subconsciously is aware of what happened. I would have told her and gotten her therapy right away because it's better to start that early than letting it become worse.
Wtf dose braces have to do with it karen
@@bearashby4451 her orthodontist was was the one who abused her, while he was putting on her braces.
When they were initially trying to figure out what happened she was rambling about her braces.
@@britollefson2170 well yes I did see that but you don't know for sure
@@bearashby4451 that's kinda y it's apart of the show
@@bearashby4451 why are you defending a TV character....?
As a guy who was the victim of SA, this video turns my stomach. It wasn't an an adult that I trusted, it was a classmate. You never get your innocence back. You never can forget what happened. I was conscious the entire time and I couldn't fight him off of me. It took me years to finally accept that it wasn't my fault. I didn't ask for it.
I’m so sorry 💔😞
I'm so sorry.... you're so strong...❤️
You are pure, you are clean. The idea that your innocence cannot be restored is a lie.
@@noelly89 Thank you. It took me a long time to realize that it wasn't my fault and that I wasn't dirty, that I didn't ask for it. You know all the things that you hear when rumors get around. Thank God there was no social media back then because I guarantee you I would have offed myself.
I'm so sorry you had to go through such a thing, I am sure you are in a better place now 😊
mad respect to the mother for immediately making the connection about the stepdad. he was innocent but she didn’t hesitate to connect any dots possible
Not respect. He can't trust her again. A man that was practically the girl's step dad, mom's boyfriend, got accused, eventually she confessed it was faked, but the damage was done, and he wisely left... Single moms themselves aren't great judges of character. It'd be no respect because she brought a monster around her baby, had a baby with someone that wasn't husband material for her, and lord, what that puts the kid through...
the fact the girl moved away from her mother BUT NOT THE DAD is obvious signs the MOTHER is at fault, not the dad... You need to learn to read body language.
@Louis Kingsta You also must know, statistically, kids have a 50% percent high chance of general abuse from their mother.
Besides, this wasn't the daughter falsely accusing the step dad. While it sucks for the step dads, they understand why their wife would pick their child over them... And she just jumped into that without any allegations is what feels so wrong and dirty.
And bad people know they're doing bad things, it might be best to not increase their chances of them hurting your kids if single moms are a bad judge of character. If she can't trust him 100%, or he's at least not the FIRST person she'd just to thinking did this, that's horrible.
And my boyfriend got abused by his mom, put in the foster care system, and was graped in his single digits age. His dad eventually was one of the first men to get full custody of their kid, but it wasn't soon enough. He doesn't exactly love his mom as much as his dad.
@Louis Kingsta dude, you've never worked with abused kids...
I'd say that it was more paranoia than "not hesitating to connect the dots".
When your kid has been severely injured or abused, any parent would be paranoid and will be wary of everyone around them. Especially if the kid refuses to talk about it and hides the truth from them.
She was assaulted by someone she thought she was safe with and now the people she trusts the most are hiding it from her, that would be just as awful to deal with, wouldn't be surprised if she never trusted anyone again.
The girl's stressed out as it is, also the episode where this is from shows that they eventually get the bastard.
@@acrsclspdrcls1365 I knew they caught him and that's great, but that and her being stressed doesn't change the fact that she's going to have major trust issues after they tell her they've kept this from her, doesn't matter the reasoning.
@@felicitymorris4934
I am not claiming to be an expert, I am trying to understand their reasons.
I have seen others like you down in the comments say the exact same thing. I don't know much to make an educated guess, but if you were to tell a SA victim of it it would be best to tell it to them AFTER they're released from the hospital. That way maybe things wouldn't go wrong with the recovery.
At least that's what I'm getting from this.
@@felicitymorris4934 Sure but she’s 13. “Hey yeah so it turns out you were SA’d by your dentist but don’t worry, you just have an entire mouth of metal to remind you! Have fun going to another dentist!”
Best to tell her gently, later. For now keep it vague at least.
There’s no real win. If you tell her, she will feel violated and awful, like reliving her trauma. Her trust in people would break. If you don’t tell her, it’ll be difficult to overcome and her trust issues are bound to be worse.
Either way it’s a lose lose situation, you just need to weigh which cons are most likely to affect her specifically
I'm a SA victim at 13, it has been hard but you should never try to keep it a secret from the victim. It doesn't help. She must overcome it herself. Trauma is awful but you do have to learn to deal with it. No one can do that for you
I'm sorry , I hope your doing okay now
Same here
People need to understand that emotional stress can affect recovery. The decision is definitely right to inform her after the discharge, and with the right people e.g. psychologist.
@@ibizamarquina793 the mum’s reasoning was her innocence though, not how it would affect her treatment. If the mum had said she didn’t want to say anything until she was in a less fragile state then that would be fine, but it sounds like she’s intending to keep it a secret for years until her daughter is older given the comment about her innocence, which is a horrible thing to do.
Truer words ever said. I am so sorry that happened you. May God continue to heal you.
I can appreciate their decision to keep the assault a secret for the time being, however the body will often “remember” such traumatic events even when the mind has no recollection. I wonder how this would affect the rest of her growth/youth
Not only that but, with braces... having to constantly put your daughter through the fear that the Dentist will do something to her (even though they very much definitely changed dentists)...
It would be good to explain to the daughter that something really bad happened to her, but that she will tell her when she gets older. That way the daughter is still let in with out traumatizing her further.
And the braces would be a constant reminder. It's awful either way.
@@mary-janereallynotsarah684 Oooh... I didn't even think about that. And could easily just be her teeth in general... Or falling asleep with someone else in the room... So much horrible shite could happen cuz of that Dentist who couldn't keep it in his pants. (If only she unconsciously clamped her jaw shut)
@@Breezely22 Ehh... IDK how good that'd be having that hanging over her head. I mean, she could just as easily forget her mother told her something happened if she doesn't say what it is.
As someone who was SA'ed I respect them not telling her while she's recovering as long as they tell her once she has recovered
yes, i haave respect that they were probably going to wait and tell her after her school dance. just letting her have that moment
I agree. Delaying that discussion isn’t going to hurt her. A responsible parent would want their child to be strong physically and have therapy set up already.
So wait til she’s feeling better and then traumatize her psychologically? That’s not better.
@@cblissDelaying that discussion will just add more trauma. The trauma of her parents lying to her about what happened to her body. That adds another layer of trauma to work through in therapy and will damage their relationship.
These "As someone _" is getting so dumb
I like the step-dad. He agreed to everything right away and didn't blame the mom for being suspicious.
I also understand that the couple could also have trouble later from that. I can't imagine the pain of knowing your spouse could believe you would do that.
I would hope he leaves her and the courts give him everything they would almost always give the woman.
Really, if your spouses accuses you of such an act, the marriage is over.
@@JoybuzzerX I understand that in a way, but I also know that you don't never really know someone.
Watch true crime shows and about child abuse and you will see that.
@@bobbierobinson6269 and I understand that, but after that, it's so.ething you're likely to hold against them.
This is the most reasonable approach to this I've seen. Most of the top comments are most likely from women who have never had to deal with someone associating something so vile and awful with you just because you're a guy. It's not something to cheer about.
I'd understand having the light put on me in this situation but I'd still be crushed after it. I'm not sure if we'd ever be the same.
@@JoybuzzerX That is just standard procedure in this cases and a logical first step when investigating cause this cenario it's almost always the case. No need to be so dramatic when you haven't done anything wrong, you should even anticipate this coming if you are not stupid and just accept that it's nothing personal.
It made sense to suspect the dad. It's like when someone's spouse is murdered. You always suspect the living spouse. Normally it is them, and so it would be illogical to not suspect them
Not to mention how dodgy he was being about testing her and such; why wouldn't you want her tested, got something to hide (especially considering he was alone with her).
@@Billhatestheinternet I think that part was a bit of theatrics for the show. Realistically I can't see him being like that if it was real life. It absolutely makes sense though the amount of stepdads/stepmoms assaulting their step children is fucking disgusting.
Biological parents do sometimes assault their child. So it's more possible for step parents with their step children. You can't fully trust your partner especially if you have a teen daughter. I know it's disgusting but it's really happening.
Especially a stepdad. Although there are so many incredible stepdads out there who treat their stepkids as their own, there are some sickos out there. Some even prefer to date/marry single parents to have easy access to kids.
I would’ve suspected the dentist because they have access to all kinds of drugs in their work place
Never leave children unattended at any establishment.There are so many sick evil people in our world.
Even if in the open space, recently I watch some news, the mothers was busy shopping, then some creep old man approached the girls and hiding behind a snack rack, he started kissing and molested the child, everything was recorded in cctv, it just some small general store, if only her mother just turn around, she would caught the act.
@@kaitokiddo9863 W T F that is crazy
Didn’t the doctor for young gymnasts SA his victims in front of their parents and the parents didn’t even realize what he was doing?
@@kalifogg6610where & when was this ?
fact is they start as minors and continue to do evil as adults because "minors cannot comprehend what they are doing" yes Woke Karen but we are supposed to teach them to comprehend what they are doing and if they do not show interest in rehabilitation then maybe Karen it would be better to put them behind bars. Idgaf if he is 14 years old. The 8 year old girl is still more worthy of protecting than a 14 year old who shows p3dofilic signs.
It’s a crime not to follow through on this investigation. Once professionals (nurses and doctors) know about abuse or alleged abuse, it must be reported. RN here. MANDATED REPORTER.
They were going to follow up. The police are already there. The parents just want to hold off telling the girl what happened.
they didn't, not follow through they just didn't tell the girl about it.
It was reported lol. They did their jobs excellently and then the parents made a decision not to tell her right then. Way off base here.
It’s pretty obvious they reported it since Jay Halstead (who is a detective) interviewed the parents.
Right same with child care providers. We suspect abuse, we have to warn the center, then the center investigates, but we can bypass management in extreme cases.
It may be understandable to wait a few days for her body to recover so that she isn’t dealing with everything at once, but they shouldn’t put off telling her for long. She has a right to know what happened to her body. She may not remember what happened, but her body knows, and she deserves that explanation. It also halts the investigation, and in the meantime, that vile orthodontist could assault someone else.
@NEP84 oh absolutely! I just assumed that would have come up if they had found anything
By law, he can be suspended during the investigation. The ADA would be notified. They also have a say in the decision for suspension. This is usually (at the beginning) done as a leave of absence. If there is enough physical evidence; they'd then suspend him from actively seeing patients. From there it would be up to the DA to press charges; at this time his victim would need to be told. So she can get help in dealing with the trauma and possibly give evidence.
But trying to get info from a stressed out victim isn't always easy or ultimately helpful. The sketches from Polly's friends when they were still scared vs calmer were VERY different.
It’s pretend. It’s TV. It didn’t happen.
Unless she was not fully unconscious, I don't think she would know anything happened. She would certainly wonder why she was sore or injured all of a sudden. They described some pretty severe injuries. But psychologically, nothing happened to her until they tell her it did. I totally understand them not wanting to tell her yet.
OMG stepfather trying to delay the pelvic exam was such a sketchy move. No wonder mom was suspicious.
But then he was completely compliant with the cops' tests. In a way, wanting to delay the pelvic exam does make sense--in the end we see that he does care for the girl as a father would, and part of that would likely be shock over her condition. Regardless of the cause, those symptoms would take a bit for a loved one to process. Add to that, not wanting to put her through any more pain, even if necessary...
@@tgbluewolf not arguing that he didn't love his daughter. But trying to prevent a medically necessary exam, under those circumstances, made it LOOK like he was trying to prevent the exam at the risk of his daughter's health and possibly to conceal evidence of the crime.
No, he wasn't the perp. But his reluctance to allow treatment made him look guilty.
It's because he probs knew how invasive and scary it can be
@@bonD6002 obviously. But just as obviously his daughter's condition was failing fast. The people trying to save her life said the exam was necessary to determine what was wrong so they could save her life. The longer the exam is put off, the more likely they would fail to save her life.
Choice: invasive exam or leave her in severe pain and possibly dying. Your choice.
@@bonD6002 How would HE know about a pelvic exam? She needs to start seeing the gynecologist anyways at this age. Plus, she was unconscious. It’s pretty weird he didn’t want it to happen.
Any dentist, orthodontist, or doctor that doesn’t let a parent in is very suspicious.
I used to be a dental assistant. Many pediatric dentists won't let the parents in, because they either gas, strap the kid to a papoose board or both.
I had a dentist tell me that I couldn't go back with my 5 year old daughter. They said there was no room. I said then I'm canceling this appointment and going to a dentist who has room.
@grlnexdoorable new dentist let's me go back everytime even when they use the gas. They have never had to hold my kids down
Also why are they knocking a kid out to put on braces?
Kudos to both the mom and step dad in this one. The mom for not excluding her husband as a suspect just to be 100% sure, and the stepdad for immediately doing every single thing he could to help the investigation. Even innocent people often refuse to do polygraphs or donade DNA to rule them out and that makes them look way more suspicious than it has to.
You do know it’s just a Tv program.
@@paulashe61 Kudos to the writers. A lot of shows have parents making suspicious choices for the sake of drama.
It’s a tough one though. Can the relationship keep going once she’s had it in her head that he could have abused her daughter? I guess it should always be in the back of her head somewhere, even if it’s a small remote possibility.
Polygraph are really bad. I know of people who were thought guilty because they failed while the actual thief got away due to being able to live.
@paulashe61 you do know things like this happen in real life right...smh hush
Once a parent has a suspicion that their spouse has assaulted their child, there is no turning back. You're never going to look at them the same, even if it was someone else.
Edit: war has started in the comments.
I was gonna post this exact thing.
Yeah... but if she had told him about it he could never probably get over that. 🤷 sucks either way.
I absolutely understand that he would have been questioned regardless, but being told by the wife to check you for this, and it ended up not even being him, a marriage doesn’t fully recover from that.
The Court of Public Opinion is affected the same way. Once an accusation, especially of this nature, gets out, your life is over!
I wish this was true for all parents but there are alot of sick parents who turn a blind eye to that stuff, some even sell their kids to sickos. And the scariest thing you'll be surprised is that these things happen even in developed countries like america.
I know the not telling her part is problematic, but can I just say how otherwise refreshing it is to see this kind of parenting in a medical drama? There was no drawn-out denial, no anger and claiming the doctors were wrong or threatening to sue... The mother even cooperated to the point of questioning her husband just to get to the bottom of it...
Good tv. Very refreshing. 10/10.
@Olivia McDonagh
So very true.
Let the girl get out of the hospital and heal before being told something she's going to carry with her for the rest of her life. They only want to wait a bit before telling her, that's all.
Any dentist/oral surgeon that refuses to let you stay in the room with them should never be trusted. I had my wisdom teeth removed and my wife (girlfriend at the time) was right there with me. When giving birth to our son I was in the room the whole time. There is no reason why you can’t be in the room for a dental procedure. Either insist that you are staying or go to a different dentist. Too easy for creeps to get away with this stuff.
I could tell the step-dad was a good guy immediately. He was scared and trying his best as she convulsed on the bed. And the way he was fighting back tears when told she was sa was genuine.
Idk what the whole story is with the bio dad, but by all accounts he’s treating her like his own daughter.
He definitely needed to be grilled, the stepdad is the most likely candidate in these scenarios. But his actions prior are not consistent with the behavior of someone like that.
But man, the dentist? Who would think a doctor would do that?
You do know this is fiction, right🙂?
My friend is a strong person and bounced back but she told her mom as soon as they got in the car. I don’t remember the rest of the story. That’s why I’m picky about my doctors, if my gut says something’s up then it’s usually bc it is. Think about the Drs that work with gymnasts? There was what 20 that came out last year I think that said they were assaulted with their parent in the room bc of the angle of how he had the pt. There was also a male gymnast too. It’s disgusting
@@madamroo434 you’re a lot of fun, aren’t you?
@@madamroo434 my mom was literally SA’d by a dentist as a child. These things aren’t impossible
The people who SA'd me were "good" too, so good no one believed me. What frickin 8 year old back in '88 would've even had a clue what SA even was?? I learned two things from that... 1 - even people who "love" you can hurt you, and 2 - it doesn't matter if you tell the truth, if they don't believe you, you still get into trouble. I also learned how to be a really good liar to prevent that gut-wrenching heartache from ever happening again. That was actually worse than the SA tbh...
The fact that the parents believed the doctors and mother was suspicious of her spouse is a breath of fresh air. Glad he was innocent in the end
He should leave her
@@littlepenguinowo1819 He shouldn't, he should understand that unfortunately the most common perpetrator of these kinds of crimes is a person the child knows. It's common sense that they HAVE to at least check
@@MariAnimates you think that makes the situation any better? If your partner suspects you then you leave. There is no repairing that bridge. He should therefor leave.
@@MariAnimates its like a man demanding a paternity test. Many men are fathering children that are not theirs. If you get a paternity test done it's logical and the woman should understand, but the trust has been broken, the bridge has been damaged beyond repair and the more it's used the closer it gets to collapse
@@littlepenguinowo1819 sure....except that this is a CRIME against a CHILD and therefore all leads and avenues must be examined. There's no crime committed if you want to get a paternity test.
I am SO glad the mom took it serious and wasn’t in denial that it could be the step dad!
Hope if you are married and someone tells the husband the kids may not be his, you dont judge him for not being in denial and wanting a paternity test
@@craigclermond8001 this hit you hard huh?
@@asandwich6823 it hits most men hard. Not sure why you would think pat fraud is a minor thing. Thats like me making fun about a fem who experienced assault.
He did it while she was sleep and she didn't even know, stuff like this happens man
It's why I'd be afraid of getting put under. Just numb my jaw and go.
imok,this is why i never left my childerns side,the doctors had no say in it,nobody had a say in it,i made it clear form the start that i was not leaving thair sight,over night im staying right by the bed all night.all because of shows like this.
Do dentist use general anesthesia? And usually dentists have assistants too.
I hated how paranoid our parents were when we were kids but I'm kinda thankful now. My parents would never let us leave the house without the proper supervision. Our parents were doctors so most of our medical needs were done by their friends who were also doctors. Its a cruel world man. How can you trust anyone in this world?
@@MsAZYou It has recently happened in Brazil a horrible case where a men would assault their patient when they'd be nocked out while they were *giving birth to their baby.* The men was the anesthetist in the surgical room, and while the other doctors would be doing the surgery, he'd put his private's part off and rub it in the mother's face.
So it doesn't really matter rather there are people in the room or not. This kind of things happens, sadly, all the time, everywhere.
And now another thing as a mom I need to take into account and worry about. Never leave my daughter alone at a doctor office regardless of her age. The list is so long at keep getting longer.
I'm the oldest of six, and I go to appointments with them frequently. I bought a small button that links to my phone, and if they feel unsafe in any way, they click and it sends an alert. You can get these sorts of things on Amazon, it's good to teach the younger kids not to click it for fun though. But yeah, it's actually helped before with one of my sisters, thankfully she wasn't harmed but we got my parents to switch doctors.
I don't want to scare you, but after I was assaulted as a kid, I overheard my mother say to the police "I have 5 daughters, it's not a matter of If, it's just When" and I felt so betrayed in that moment that she didn't warn me - that nobody warned me - that it caused me a lot of emotional and psychological trauma.
Please warn your daughter about this sort of thing, and do it younger than you think, younger than you want to. I was 9, and that year was the first year in school that we had sex-ed. thankfully I already knew at that age that what happened wasn't my fault and would never be my fault, but that's more my autism speaking than anything my parents or society instilled in me - in fact I remember having to constantly affirm that I knew it wasn't my fault to others when I spoke about it, which cast more doubt in my mind than the original incident (again likely the autism).
But yeah, just to make my point again; for me at least, not being warned felt like my mother didn't care about me enough to warn me, or assumed I would know how to handle it bc I was 'so mature for my age' etc, and it felt and still feels like the ultimate betrayal in our relationship.
Edit: I finished the clip (paused to type comment) and saw the mum talking about wanting to protect her innocence - I understand that, but at least for myself personally, I would rather have my parent gently peel back my innocence in a safe environment then have it brutally ripped away from me on a street corner surrounded by strangers, or in my house after the fact overhearing conversation about myself with the cops. Please, anyone who reads this; treat your kids like adults, with full autonomy and rights to information (in an age appropriate format) about what could happen. We talk about traffic safety and general stranger danger already with kids, but we don't talk about s*xual stranger danger with girls, and that's something I personally needed the most when I was a child.
Oof. I would go to a dentist office without doors. I went to an orthodontists where the office was open to the hallway (that led to the waiting room hallway). Also, you could treat multiple patients in one room. So there was more than one patient and doctors there at the same time. Only downside was hearing other patient’s with low pain tolerance scream at times. Most dentists offices in AZ have open doors.
My mom didn’t date until we were 18. She did this because she was single and she feared any person she dated could use her to get close to us and hurt us. She’s remarried now, and our step Dad is wonderful. Just be honest with your daughters and let them know what they need to stay safe. I’m sure you’ll be a wonderful Mom.
The list of common sense is long when you have no common sense
When I was 13 I went to the dentist with my siblings. Our regular one was out so we saw his partner. As we were leaving he bent down and smacked my theee year old sister on the ass. Not me, not our brother, only the girl. My mom threw a fit and he ended up sending a really creepy letter saying how he didn’t mean it as bad and she should feel grateful. He doesn’t have a job anymore
I took my children to two different dentist who refused to allowed parents to stay with their children. I was not leaving my small children without my supervision. Professional or not, we have to advocate for our children and be their protectors/voices. So glad the dentist we found is friendly and told me he would never ask a parent to leave their child.
@@Mr.Brightside83They were told beforehand that they were not allowed in the room; that's assuming they'll be in the way which is VERY strange: young kids often behave better in medical check ups or procedures if their parents are in the room with them, because their parents can reassure them that it will be okay.
Because of that, not allowing the parents to come in right from the start is a huge red flag in my opinion. The assumption that parents will get in the way only makes sense when the person doing the procedure is unprofessional and frequently gives parents a reason to intervene by not treating the kids well.
A small number of parents do get in the way when they shouldn't, those can get send out when they do that. And they can wait outside at following appointments.
After reading the comments here, I'd report that. Maybe consider reporting those dentists OP 🤔
I’m glad the mother actually believed them and started suspecting. It’s unfortunate that the stepdad was assumed first but I’m so glad they believed her and what happened to her
i agree !
Its horrible how sick some people are they damage others for there on sick ideas
I still don’t understand why the dentist doesn’t let the parents come to the back? It’s not like they’re a 2 y/o and they’re gonna bounce off the walls and mess with stuff.
Some dentist let them have it be an option based on what the kid wants. but I agree if theor a toddler a baby or little kid the parent should be their woth their child.
If they don’t you better find a new dentist.
It's hard to focus if the parent gets emotional or asks a million questions during the procedure but many dentists will let the parents watch real-time on video. It can also be traumatic for the parent to watch a dental surgery on their child
It's not that the dentists don't LET it. Most health care professionals just know that most kids don't want their parents there
My orthodontist asked my mom if she wanted to go with me. My mom always asked me. Usually I didn’t care. My orthodontist also had open rooms… either just half wall partitions separating the chairs or individual rooms with no doors. They also only ever used Novocain when I got my braces. I’ve never heard of anyone being given gas or put under for merely getting braces. Usually that kind of stuff is used only for oral surgeries like have wisdom teeth taken out.
Who else had no intention of liking this show and after 5 mins was hooked? I love this show.
Lol me! I watch one video and then I’m stuck for hours watching all the recommended ones! Never seen the show before just the TH-cam videos lol. Same as getting stuck watching House MD clips lol.
I had no intention of watching this series nor the other...PD and Fire...but have been hooked on all 3 that my PVR is running out of space..I cannot watch them wuick enough.. hehehe
Well...I love these highlighted clips of the show on TH-cam lol
I belive once the mom does decide to tell her daughter she should do it with a therapist so they have a middle person to help explain it
But does she tell the dad that she suspected he did it?
@@css31069 Any man would know he's the suspect simply because he lives in the household.
It's not like they're really going to have a choice. The nurses and doctors are mandated reporters which means the detectives are going to come around start asking her questions and she's going to find out in a day or two anyway.
Why would you tell her that’s so moronic and only would hurt her mentally
I do agree with parents on not telling her right away. She just went through a lot with the medical situation. As someone who went through some very similar stuff as a teen and into young adulthood, medical trauma is a real thing. Eventually, yes, tell her. She has a right to know. She also shouldn’t have to heal from EVERYTHING at once.
definitely true. when I broke my hip it took most of my mental energy just to exist for the months in bed. adding on to it starts going into cruelty at that point
Although it might be high risc for someone else to be assaulted while waiting.
Right😢 My son is on the spectrum and I didn’t tell him until he was 13. I threatened to tear the IEP’s teams throats out if they mentioned autism😂🤦🏽♀️ He finally figured out he was different and I had to tell him😒
I disagree she needs to know what’s going on
When I was 7 I hurt myself between the legs on my bike. The police had to ask my dad some questions and even though he has a pretty infamous temper, he understood completely. I’m glad the stepdad reacts the way he does because SO many shows the father is just mortally offended he’d be asked when it’s a pretty obvious thing that’s going to be checked.
My heart was racing. It’s probably wrong of me to say this but I’m grateful it played out and it wasn’t the step father who had assaulted her. I know it doesn’t make it better but there’s been so many stories on shows like this where it is the step father.
i love mothers who put there babies first. And love that stepdad offered a polygraph off the bat.
I guess I get where the parents were coming from, keeping it from her... But imagine finding out later in life, and then finding out that your parents deliberately kept it from you. I'm not sure I could ever get over that.
You'll understand stand when you have your own kids someday, there's just some things you can't do/tell your child. One wrong response can ruin their perception on life and or rob them of their innocence and change them forever. Your job is to protect them from the harsh reality until they're ready to be able to comprehend it.
@@thewrathgod5610 I'm not sure. Sometimes people find out, or start remembering something like this once they're adults and it's really much harder for them to heal from something that happened long ago in the past.
I'd prefer to start therapy as a teen, with a possibility to heal from it, than having to waste my adult years for healing. I'd feel like I was living a lie all those years, probably wondering if there's something else that was kept from me.
I don’t think that they intend on leaving it for five years or something. I think that they just want her to recover a bit, go to her dance, and then tell her. She will have to testify in court, or at least talk to the cops.
@@thewrathgod5610 if she's been sexually assaulted her innocence is already been robbed from her. So at that point you should tell her when she's home and you have a therapist lined up.
@@thewrathgod5610 I'm an adult and I have a daughter and I was abused in basically growing up. I get what you're saying but also I wish someone had explained these things to me sooner and gotten me help but nobody did. I even went through court and testified against one of the people who SA'd me when I was 10 and nobody put me in therapy. I just had to deal with it and I'm still dealing with it now at almost 28. If, God forbid, this happened to my daughter I would make sure she knew I was there for her and get her therapy asap and help her heal in whatever way she needed. Also in the case of the show, the girl needs to know in order to go to court and convict the orthodontist. Plus it would probably be on the news. So they couldn't keep it from her very long anyway.
My orthodontist treated everyone out in the open. There was a waiting room with class doors leading into the big patient room with multiple chairs facing the window. Nobody was ever alone with one person.
Smart doctor!
It’s not up to the parents to decide whether she can be questioned. Once it is reported as a crime, the police take over. Unfortunately, the girl’s innocence is over.
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this definitely hit home. this is how i was diagnosed with hsv2 as well. i was r@ped and beaten and they left me with hsv. only difference is i knew how i contracted it. but the mothers reaction was the same… hurt to watch again honestly.
Oh my goodness. I am so sorry that happened to you. I pray you are able to heal. ❤
So sorry you had to endure that.
I'm so sorry boobie, I pray healing be placed in your journey
@@emilygalo-medina2408 i’m workin on it thank u❤️❤️
@@keierrareenell877 life’s hard what can ya do right?
Exactly why my children can’t go anywhere I’m not allowed to. As soon as they tell I’m not allowed back, appt fckn canceled! Idgaf
I read the comments. Saw it happened by a Dentist. I thought the Dad was a dentist till they said he's an accountant... then I remembered the Braces. JESUS CHRIST
If someone had done that to my daughter or my step daughter (who is just as much my daughter to me) or one of my granddaughters. Justifiable homicide comes to mind. Some things a man has to do for his family regardless of the consequences and that is one of them. That orthodontist would never see another day on this earth.
Leaving your family fatherless while you sit in jail is piling on more suffer for them though.
@@73cidalia not if he’s good with body disposal!
There would be no investigation because the person who did it would simply disappear and never de seen again.
I am a woman and I will do the same
@@TheMustangBuilders a dentist or doctor goes missing of course people would report it and investigate it
My daughters pediatrician gave me a creepy feeling.. something about him was always weird. When is bring my girls in I was breastfeeding and he offered to let me stay and feed my baby in his doctor room before leaving.. and I thought I found a camera after he said that and it scared me. But it was a standard camera, it was a small hidden lens in the cabinet that was locked. I never ever let the that man even touch my daughters without me right there holding their hands. I told my husband we were going to switch their doctor only seen him a few times I just wasn’t risking it. Days before notifying the office I recieved a letter from the place he worked saying he was no longer allowed to treat under age patients… when I went to the office he claimed it was because he was retiring.
Trust your guts.
Great respect for the mother for immediately checking to make sure it wasn’t the stepfather
I cant believe there are sick people in the world that actually do horrific things like this. Children dont deserve to be preyed upon and their innocence taken away. So sad
Calm down its just a show
@@littlemissgroove It happens irl
so triggering but honestly this stuff needs to be bluntly discussed because it happens a lot
Good detective work is to rule out suspects like the step dad, especially since most crimes like this are committed by someone the victim knows and trust. It's also good police work to not try to make it stick with no evidence just to get a conviction, that's where justice dies, and sadly that happens far too often. This is exactly how it should be done.
A dentist in my parent’s home town when they were growing up was assaulting girls he treated while they were under. Luckily my mom went to another dentist in town but it was really upsetting
Every single actor in this show is excellent, both when it comes to displaying extreme emotions and simply delivering their lines in a clean and professional manner the way medical workers would
😂😂😂😂😂
@@grlnexdoorable Use your words, friend. I have no idea of what this means
Look its not very ethical not telling the child something this heinous and horrible happened to them but I absolutely agree with the parents holding it off for a while. Putting something like that on that kid and just after a near death experience is just gonna make her feel more worse
This is why I go into the rooms with my child
And when they are thirteen and above will you still go in as they can't be alone without mommy? Kids grow up, don't be one of those idiotic helicopter parents.
@@NotMykl yeah they should definitely leave their drugged up child alone so theyre not a helicopter parent. Makes perfect sense.
@@NotMykl hope nobody leaves their kid alone with you 🙄
Wtf
I can somewhat agree when I was 14 I was at dentist, the guy was very weird and I felt uncomfortable. He was refusing to let my mum in the room
thats one reason why ive never been put to sleep at a dentist office. i just ask for some numbing and deal with the rest. my dentist was shocked when i told them i didnt want to go under while they pulled 4 of my teeth at the same time and had to use scalpels to cut my gums because of my roots being crooked. also the smell of cauterized gums will stick with you the rest of your life. never smelled anything else like it
You had the option?
Man I've wanted to be put under for a bunch of dental work but they never do it.
Same for me, 3 wisdom teeth and 4 premolars went out in one procedure with me being fully conscious. I even went to the bathroom in the middle of it to the horror of the kids in the waiting area.
It's really weird to me that people in the US are put under anesthesia for a tooth removal or braces. In Europe they just use local numbing, like why is being under even necessary? It just has not to hurt you, yes it does feel weird but so do many other procedures, you can survive it.
My mom had a couple removed with just local numbing, and because no anesthesia was needed she also drove herself back home as soon as they finished. Much less trouble for everyone involved.
@@Paula-um3js In this case, the person needed to have their gums cut open. Sounds like impacted wisdom teeth. That’s not a simple extraction. It’s pretty much surgery.
I’ve never had a dentist work on my teeth alone. There’s always a dental hygienist in there. And my dentist office has either an interior window in the room or is doorless, so this wouldn’t happen.
I didn't think my respect for humanity could go any lower, but after seeing the comments saying that the mom is a loser and deserves the worst for ever thinking her husband could do something like that, and that a man's pride/ego comes before a child's safety, it has officially hit the 900th rock bottom
Exactly! Just goes on to show how little people actually care about women's safety, well being. The same idiots would've been bashing the mother had she not suspected anything.
Then you should know in developing nations girls/women are hush hushed for the sake of those petty mens’ reputation.
This goes both ways. Yes, I understand innocently accused men suffer from being wrongly accused but do you really expect a mother should worry about family honour, reputation over her child?
You know, it is reasons like boys/men take advantage of girls/women.
This shame and people not believing is what makes the victims go silent and live the trauma till their death.
Someone always has to lose- perpetrator or victim.
@RainbowJam you do realize it was not the stepdad. It was the orthodontist.
The vehement and vocal "not all men" crowd is just a couple of angry arguments away from actually committing the crimes they try to brush off by using the phrase "not all men".
@@wtogspedersen860 yes but you do realise that in 90% cases it's someone who knows the victim and too many kids just never tell anyone because they're not believed.
She might not be a perfect wife but she's a good mother and a good human.
I took my daughter to a dentist when she was very young and they said I couldn’t go back with her. We left. No way that was going to happen. This was years ago.
When the doctor started reeling off all of those tests I thought wow, this family is going to be in debt for the next three generations lol
They got Medicaid 💰😬🤣
@@scallywagsmith127 if the stepdad is an accountant then they wouldn’t qualify for Medicaid due to income
Crime Victims' Compensation Board might be able to help.
I love how the doctors on these shows do everything. This would be passed off to a paediatrician
Idgaf what anyone says anyone who does this to a LITTLE GIRL deserves the chair. She's a baby. Now she has been physically and mentally traumatized for life. We are supposed to protect kids not prey on them. People like that are sick.
They'll call you a bigot and say age is just a number.
It's also fictional
Calm down its just a TV show
The mother is so responsible, but I can think of numerous cases where holding off this information from the girl would be simply criminal.
not only to the girl but to all his potential other victims....can you imagine her guilt issues later if she learns she could have helped others and her mom said no
My kid EVER has a bad feeling, whether an idea or no, I won't have it. No matter what, NOTHING AND NO ONE hurts my baby/babies...
"I work at home."
Yep that pretty much gave it away. And yet no it didn't. Good writing.
Plot twist was amazing
Only 12 years old and she's suffering so much because of a disgusting evil adult. This happens in real life so often. Adults try to destroy children physically, mentally, but I try to tell kids that they are strong and NOT ruined. My mother went through something similar, she was abused as a CHILD and she's stuck with a disease for her entire life.
and emotionally*
Calm down it’s a TV show
@@TreyParkersBitch happens in real life too
My orthodontist is so creepy. He always finds a way to touch my shoulders and legs and made comments about “my chest disappearing” when I wore my binder to an appointment. A bunch of people I know that go to him have similar complaints. Luckily he hasn’t done anything to me and I’ve stopped going
I hope you stopped seeing him
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this is why I'm not comfortable with any man in a medical setting. I don't trust any man when i could be put to sleep. sick
I never noticed that, I assumed he was being overly protective since his wife was falling apart.
Always ask for a female hygienist or nurse to be in the room…
@@MsTinkerbelle87 agreed I may be a guy but even I'm paranoid, gotta have more than one person on the room and always bring some one with you.
This is why parents need to always be in the room with their child
I always ask for multiple people in the room. I don’t care about gender though because my brother was assaulted by a female dentist while he was asleep. Luckily another dentist (a male dentist) saw what happened and stopped it. I don’t judge people based off their gender.
I hope the step dad got an apology afterwards. I completely understand looking into all suspects but a lot of guys aren't even treated with sympathy once they're proven innocent
What a good mom❤
I wish all children had moms like this
Is it bad that I’m actually relieved it wasn’t the stepdad? Good for the mom for thinking about it just in case. But I really am glad that it wasn’t the stepdad.
Mad props. The mom was not being paranoid about the step-dad and the cops were right to question them both. It was nice to see something other than 'the obvious suspect did it.'
This is a good mother and woman putting her own feelings aside to try and help her daughter, she loves her husband but her daughter comes first.
When I was getting my braces , my doctor told my parents to wait outside but my mum insisted on waiting inside so she sat at the corner quitely, just looking at me and making sure everything was fine.
Insisted? She did the right thing.
@@heythave yep!
Trust no one. Trust absolutely no one.
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The doc begins giving the step dad suspicious looks and pushing him on what he ought to know about the girl, and this is further highlighted with how she changes her demeanour when the mum comes in.
The orthodontist that my brother and I went to had an open office, you could see and hear everything going on while people were getting taken care of, and my mom or my dad was there anytime there had to be a shut door. The doctor was a chill guy and only ever involved himself maybe four times extensively in my treatment during my years with braces. And all of his nurses were women so anytime we were alone with the nurse, I didn’t feel uncomfortable or unsafe. We got lucky.
So you’re saying all Men are predators? That if one of the assistants was a man you’d feel unsafe because naturally as a man he would have assaulted you? Disgusting.
@@Anonymous_Passerby Well... the statistics aren't exactly in y'all's favour. Even men feel uncomfortable in vulnerable positions with other men (massages, for example). I wonder whose fault that is _sips tea_
@@Anonymous_Passerbylmao
Both the mom and stepdad did everything they could for the child. The mom had the courage to place the step-dad as a suspect when usually women tend to be in denial, while the step-dad immediately offered to do every test they wanted. Shoes he truly cared about the step-daughter as his own and she was safe the whole time she was with him.
This is a great example of how this should be handled. Mom didn’t ignore the possibilities and step dad didn’t get defensive and lash out.
My mom always made sure that our orthodonist had open patient rooms. Meaning the rooms were basically cubicles, only curtains and thick walls separating each patient. You could practically see your kid getting their teeth done from the waiting room.
I swear I get emotional every single epidemic of this show
Now it makes sense why my family dentist has a little chair in the corner of the treatment room to allow parents to sit while their kids are treated.
So I just watched that documentary, our father, and between this and the cases in that film, I’m someone who fully trusts my physician when I’m at the doctors but it does upset me that in very special cases there are doctors who should not be trusted
This is one of my biggest fears. You place your trust into a professional to treat your child during a medical procedure and your child is assaulted.
I want to tell all the parents here in the comments section, you have parental rights, and you NEVER have to leave your child alone with anyone. Even the police don’t have the right to get your child alone away from you without proper court orders. No medical professional needs to be alone behind closed doors with your child.
Yes 🙌
It’s always so weird when parents on these shows are sooo sure their kids aren’t sexually active because of age or because they haven’t told them like be fr you don’t know
Especially when they admit they were doing it themselves at a young age
13 is extremely young though. My mom would be like this too because she knows me. I know other kids do it but a parent should know their child.
13 is often young though and often another 13 year old may not be contaminated with an STD yet two kids having their first time often ends up in pregnancy more often than stds
stories like these break my heart because somewhere in the world this happened
they say braces then say dentist...Nice
People aren't always accurate in their speech
Dentists do braces too
As a parent I'd probably do the same thing. I wouldn't tell her that day. I'd need a few days just to wrap my head around how to tell her delicately. I'd probably also let her have a good time at the school dance then tell her. Not keep it from her forever, just a few more days.
Same U can't hide something like that forever eventually U need to tell her it's not going to be easy but it's much better to tell the truth then lie
In a case with a family member I know. Her mother waited a few years until she was 15 when she told the truth. It hurts and by then the doctor was jailed for other crimes but once you know what happened. It destroys their innocence and mentality that they are pure. But at an age where it can be understood that it's not their fault with a family member telling you and making sure you are still loved makes a massive difference
Great writing skills. Kept me on edge assuming it was the step-dad. Never assume without the facts!
She was assaulted by a dentist? WOW. Foul!
This is heartbreaking. Poor kid.
This hits close to home..... I was sent as a child, to a dental surgeon by the orthodontist to get some gum removed and he drugged me and I forced myself to wake up. My shirt was ringing wet from fighting to come out, no one in the room but him and I saw him in the corner looking horrified. As usual no parent had come with me and I was so alone. Years later I requested the orthodontist give me his name. He had his wife call up and say my file was lost in a flood in his basement. Cowards and criminals. (Alleged of course).
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I’m glad the mom at least is suspecting the partner and putting her daughter first
Grade A mother for that. I really enjoy her taking all the steps to try to get justice.
Chicago MD is a great show. I especially like Dr. Charles.
Dr. Charles is great :)
The assault should have been reported right away along with very quickly letting the girl know fully what happened for the sooner she knows the much easier in the long run is it for her to fully heal both medically and psychologically.
Love how the cop wasn't arrogant and actually, honestly trying to get leads, with every respect for the doctors and their expertise.
It's so annoying that Chicago Med doesn't conclude cases. Like they never show what happened eventually
Listen my daughter is 23 and still go in with her for any dental appointment lol untill she kicks me out im going