I would think that you would have to look at the whole season, if the hives that got pollen make way more honey or don't is the ultimate question. Possibly a next year test could be done with two hives with everything equal, and them put on scales, that would be fun to see. I saw the scale idea from. A 1926 bee book 😂
So awesome that you take the time to share this type of contrast with your viewers! Thank you! My guess would be on bigger colonies that are light on food it certainly seems to make a difference! As you said, is it worth it? Hell of a question givin so many factors mostly driven by upcoming weather 😂! Good luck and thank you again!
I had Phillip asking me why I ran a little patty in my colonies even with them having frames of pollen. I told him because they eat it,😁I get 3 or 4 days of cool and or🌦rain🌧that🌧keeps🌦them in the hives. I like to run light extra food supply's so they have that food cushion room. I want then to be able to keep rolling even if their native food stores start to run low. Thanks for sharing your time Ian, Blessed Days...
🤨🐝😯🐝😲🐝😳🐝She🐝 needs🐝space🐝🥺🐝oh her box is going to💥with🐝's.🎉🥳🎉 Ian you sure know how to build a box of bees, Thank you.👍 I really enjoy and get a lot of information from the detailed deep observations you do, you walk your observers through the brood nest very well. 🤔Nice fluid step by step detailed observations and comparisons.👏😁
Hi. Can you tell me the amount of sugar and water (concentration) and how many liters per colony? Also, how many days is the feeding period sufficient for the breeding season? Thank you
If you have time for it this test could go on when you start to grow them in the second box. By then they will probably have pollen from nature.. or not. I don't know it's very difficult to judge your conditions from here
Would like to know if the syrup ended on the control before during or after the cold spell. Seems to me a constant stream of syrup plays a bigger role in stimulation.
its an insurance policy. when you need it you better have it. i havent had a claim on my auto insurance in years, could have saved lots by not having it, still buy it every year. you are not going to go broke feeding your bees, and some years you might if you dont. but its good to keep an eye on what its doing for them
Tested this spring only with sugar syrup, added hivealive and a little pollen sub, and the hives hade more brood, i hade some issues last year with my patty, got a lot of chalkbrood. This year none of my hives had.
Ian, this year didn't fed any patty, only syrup with pollen sub in it, no chalkbrood, only a lot of brood, i didn't have such big hives until now, in 1 month got 7,8 frames of brood, and I'm ussing dadant big frames, stopped feeding because they are so big.
It's possible, next year i will try to see if there will be any difference, feeding my recipe of syrup, and patty +syrup. Appreciate your answer, wish you a good year and I've learnt new things from your videos.
Bence gereksiz yere çok güçlü koloniler ile kışa giriyorlar. Ben daraltarak 5-6-7 çerçeve ile giriyorum. Neden daha fazla besleme yapayım ki? Zaten ilkbaharda çılgınca üreyerek nektar akımına yetişiyorlar. Hatta bazıları oğul eğilimi bile gösteriyor.
I feed protein supplement with real pollen added and when my current batch of sugar solution additive is used up i will swtich to an additive that also contains proteins and other chemical additives that require less digestion. Thats about the best i can do really. I have a strong feeling that a hidden benefit of quality feeding is in stronger healthier bees that live longer with a better immunity. The mathematics of having longer living bees may outweigh my hopes for more brood. The science is out there on this, and i worry that too much emphasis is given to debatable benefits of feeding to get more brood early on. I feed and i think that on balance it pays. I certainly feed my grafting colonies and my young nucs until they are established and i am confident that does play.
Hi Ian, I have asked you before, my bees have been suffering from chalk disease since last year and my bees are not progressing, what can I do as a solution, please help, best regards, have a good season.
Chalk brood is partly induced by stress (particularly cold) and partly genetics. Any colony that doesn’t clean it up once the weather should be requeened.
Ian, you are not taking any pollen from your colonies just like myself. Every year I tell my self that I should. The thing is, many times my colonies are getting somewhat pollen bound and if I add patties they will not consume the natural pollen as much. Now natural pollen is coming in adding to the already "plugged up" nest. Of course this doesn't apply to every colony. Another point is, when they go into fall with too much stored pollen they will have to dig into their pollen stores depending on colony size somewhen in February-March and cant handle to hold the digested pollen/beebread and start defecating everywhere. I was already thinking to not feed pollen sub any longer or start taking pollen from them. Edit: This is Alberta, so most likely same circumstances as in Manitoba and single box management/indoor overwintering.
It all depends what are your conditions. You can't live in a warm part of the world and copy Ian in everything he does. For example my bees need patties only in the middle of summer
Honest question, dmis there any concern about micro plastics as the foamies deteriate and or get chewed on over time? Givin recent highlights on it in the environment
I noticed 2 frames of brood differences.
I would think that you would have to look at the whole season, if the hives that got pollen make way more honey or don't is the ultimate question.
Possibly a next year test could be done with two hives with everything equal, and them put on scales, that would be fun to see. I saw the scale idea from. A 1926 bee book 😂
Thanks for the update.👍
So awesome that you take the time to share this type of contrast with your viewers! Thank you!
My guess would be on bigger colonies that are light on food it certainly seems to make a difference!
As you said, is it worth it?
Hell of a question givin so many factors mostly driven by upcoming weather 😂!
Good luck and thank you again!
I had Phillip asking me why I ran a little patty in my colonies even with them having frames of pollen.
I told him because they eat it,😁I get 3 or 4 days of cool and or🌦rain🌧that🌧keeps🌦them in the hives.
I like to run light extra food supply's so they have that food cushion room. I want then to be able to keep rolling even if their native food stores start to run low. Thanks for sharing your time Ian, Blessed Days...
🤨🐝😯🐝😲🐝😳🐝She🐝 needs🐝space🐝🥺🐝oh her box is going to💥with🐝's.🎉🥳🎉
Ian you sure know how to build a box of bees, Thank you.👍
I really enjoy and get a lot of information from the detailed deep observations you do, you walk your observers through the brood nest very well. 🤔Nice fluid step by step detailed observations and comparisons.👏😁
Totally good back up .
25 april 2024 + 22C today in white fox sask .
That should make the trees bloom 🎉
The bugs were hauling in pollen fr something 👍
Hi. Can you tell me the amount of sugar and water (concentration) and how many liters per colony? Also, how many days is the feeding period sufficient for the breeding season?
Thank you
If you have time for it this test could go on when you start to grow them in the second box. By then they will probably have pollen from nature.. or not. I don't know it's very difficult to judge your conditions from here
That many bees and such a good brood batch incoming, shouldn't you split those two hives before they swarm on you?
Would like to know if the syrup ended on the control before during or after the cold spell. Seems to me a constant stream of syrup plays a bigger role in stimulation.
No additives in syrup on control, fed at the same time as rest of the yard , before the cold weather and throughout
its an insurance policy. when you need it you better have it. i havent had a claim on my auto insurance in years, could have saved lots by not having it, still buy it every year. you are not going to go broke feeding your bees, and some years you might if you dont. but its good to keep an eye on what its doing for them
Wow I thought you had worse weather then us in Nova Scotia but I can’t open my hives up like that yet I would freeze the brood
The split is going to be wonderful this year.
The difference will be in the life of the bees
Happy Day.
I wonder what the difference is between a colony with like 6 new frames of comb in the center for brood and a box of old frames
like to see those 2 hives again in 2 weeks
Tested this spring only with sugar syrup, added hivealive and a little pollen sub, and the hives hade more brood, i hade some issues last year with my patty, got a lot of chalkbrood. This year none of my hives had.
Did the hives fed patty this year see any chalk-brood ?
Ian, this year didn't fed any patty, only syrup with pollen sub in it, no chalkbrood, only a lot of brood, i didn't have such big hives until now, in 1 month got 7,8 frames of brood, and I'm ussing dadant big frames, stopped feeding because they are so big.
Sweet!
Perhaps the chalkbrood was an environmental issue rather than a feed issue. A control fed with a patty would confirm observations
It's possible, next year i will try to see if there will be any difference, feeding my recipe of syrup, and patty +syrup. Appreciate your answer, wish you a good year and I've learnt new things from your videos.
Super
At least it looks like you are well away from the wet places to flood.
Ha ha ha
Thanks for the vid! Any thoughts on why the cannibalism is happening? They just not ready for drones this time of year?
I think the cold just snapped them back on optimism
@@aCanadianBeekeepersBlog do you mean pessimism? Thx for reply
Snapped back their optimism,
Pessimism
@@aCanadianBeekeepersBlog ah, cool. gotcha. makes sense. thanks for clarifying
Geçen yıl bu zamanlar sana 23 nisanı bekle yaz o zaman gelir demiştim. Bu yıl mevsim gayet yumuşak gidiyor. Türkiye de aynı. Kolay gelsin
Bence gereksiz yere çok güçlü koloniler ile kışa giriyorlar. Ben daraltarak 5-6-7 çerçeve ile giriyorum. Neden daha fazla besleme yapayım ki? Zaten ilkbaharda çılgınca üreyerek nektar akımına yetişiyorlar. Hatta bazıları oğul eğilimi bile gösteriyor.
I feed protein supplement with real pollen added and when my current batch of sugar solution additive is used up i will swtich to an additive that also contains proteins and other chemical additives that require less digestion. Thats about the best i can do really.
I have a strong feeling that a hidden benefit of quality feeding is in stronger healthier bees that live longer with a better immunity. The mathematics of having longer living bees may outweigh my hopes for more brood. The science is out there on this, and i worry that too much emphasis is given to debatable benefits of feeding to get more brood early on.
I feed and i think that on balance it pays. I certainly feed my grafting colonies and my young nucs until they are established and i am confident that does play.
What is the ratio of sugar to polen(supstitude)?
Seems odd to me that a patty fed hive would cannibalize drone brood. Bad patty?
Hi Ian, I have asked you before, my bees have been suffering from chalk disease since last year and my bees are not progressing, what can I do as a solution, please help, best regards, have a good season.
Chalk brood is partly induced by stress (particularly cold) and partly genetics. Any colony that doesn’t clean it up once the weather should be requeened.
Ian, you are not taking any pollen from your colonies just like myself. Every year I tell my self that I should. The thing is, many times my colonies are getting somewhat pollen bound and if I add patties they will not consume the natural pollen as much. Now natural pollen is coming in adding to the already "plugged up" nest. Of course this doesn't apply to every colony. Another point is, when they go into fall with too much stored pollen they will have to dig into their pollen stores depending on colony size somewhen in February-March and cant handle to hold the digested pollen/beebread and start defecating everywhere. I was already thinking to not feed pollen sub any longer or start taking pollen from them. Edit: This is Alberta, so most likely same circumstances as in Manitoba and single box management/indoor overwintering.
If you have that much pollen at the right times, save your money on patty. It is not needed
It all depends what are your conditions. You can't live in a warm part of the world and copy Ian in everything he does. For example my bees need patties only in the middle of summer
And right now I have to catch pollen in traps because only the best queens can be faster with laying eggs than the bees storing the pollen
@researcherAmateur huh? I live in the same part Ian lives. Same climate, same vegetation. Pretty much same same.
@aCanadianBeekeepersBlog you never experience colonies plugged up with pollen?
What are the visual signs of cannibalism of the brood?
The young, you will not see. It’s observed by not seeing all stages of open brood.
With capped brood, it’s torn down cells
Honest question, dmis there any concern about micro plastics as the foamies deteriate and or get chewed on over time? Givin recent highlights on it in the environment
Probably. Plastic used in frames, pails, tanks, hose, containers
Where does one start and stop to worry about it? I don’t have an answer
Very true
My question is what was your loss this year versus last year and did it make a difference in different genetics
My losses will be under 10% maybe a but more pulled out by the months end, my own stock was the best followed by US bees
Ivan, your weather situation is even worse than ours in Moscow
*Ian
You pronounce pollen like it’s spelled polen???