You mentioned the greatest Pollen source was Canola. Anither Question to Ask is what, if anything, has changed with Canola like New Pesticides, New Fertilizers that the Bees' Systems are Weakened by and you're seeing the Long Term Effects of Virally.. Gut Health impacts are Long Term issues Also what was the Same between the Control Group and your Colonies needs Scrutiny. Thank you for Sharing your Investigation!
The tree sap also slows during drought so maybe the viral load is due to a lack of propolis . My observation hive built up large sores of propolis in the fall. As i understand it is the main defense against viruses. I don't know if you can supplement sap but i use propolis to coat my plastic frames, instead of wax.
Gotta be length of time locked up with no shitting…. When I started having bees I found your videos and did pretty much everything you do every year. actually everything you do 🤣. I’ve had great luck with healthy bees very little if any losses in winter… except wintering in shed is pretty much only difference idk it’s just a thought. Good luck my friend 💯
Hello! I live in Norway. Our winter bees are made in July/August. At the beginning of September, we start wintering the bees. We take out all the honey and put in empty, newly built frames. It is desirable that bee brood has emerged. Then we only feed with sugar syrup. We calculate 2kg of dry sugar per frame. During November, after clustering we treat with oxalic acid dripping. The bees then sit inside from October to the end of March. Honey contains too much waste materials for the bees to be able to hold it in for so long. We do the droneframe outcuting in may-july.
This is a very interesting approach. When you say "newly built frames", do you mean frames that have been fully drawn out over the summer but are empty, or are you dropping in new frames with plastic backing/wax strip? I assume the bees have enough time to draw out the wax and back fill in two months.
There are frames that are built during summer honey flow, from foundation. You can also use foundation, but it wears so much on the bees. You also want the bees to take down the sugar syrup as quickly as possible. You want as little brood as possible.
Ian. Any relevance of old comb being the culprit? Maybe it’s time to look at new wood ware and new comb. Glad to see the girls flying again! Hoping for a good year for ya!
Would be interesting to see if adding the bags of fondant over the top hole helps with that. My bees eat that before anything else. Fondant would not eliminate the pollen consumption of course. If added in mid February before they chisel out the canola honey might make a difference.
I overwinter outside in double and I noticed years ago if my bees including freshly installed nucs started pooping all over the fronts of their hives if I took away the 1-1 sugar water it cleared up immediately. Just an observation.
Did you see bobs video with the essential oils they used to get rid of EFB? Might be worth a shot, it cleaned up one of his diseased hives in two weeks. Mixture of Canola Oil, Tea Tree, Camphor and eucalyptus.
Can it be the open feeding spreading the viruses? And i also saw an article regarding lactobacillus and its benefits to the honeybee gut flora. I believe it was university of Guelph that did it
I have noticed a higher than normal level of the same viruses in my bees here in Florida. Was not sure what was happening but that you are having the same issue is interesting. Keep warm
So the question I have… is this year 23/24 days in the shed longer than previous years? I’m certain they can only hold their poop so long, perhaps the weather last fall forced you to shed your colonies sooner than normal?
The 40-year veteran that I stole all my beekeeping notes from told me supplements don't make good bees. But what does he know? What we do know is that there is a relation between nutrition and the health of any and all animals. The ones that eat better are stronger and live longer with fewer health conditions. Bees are probably the exception, rocket fuel, and global patties make super bees. What we need is the royal jelly nutrition analysis when fed on supplements, compared to a natural diet or something along those lines. We know that if the mother eats terrible, the health of the baby can be affected. Maybe if the diet of the winter bee larva is poor, the bee just isn't as healthy. I read a study that royal jelly is the same all over the world regardless of the pollen source, but no information on jelly produced on supplements.
If I had abundant natural pollen I wouldn’t need supplements. That’s my problem, loss of diversity from agriculture and development. So it’s either starve to provide feed. My hands are tied
@aCanadianBeekeepersBlog I mentioned testing the nutritional properties of royal jelly made from supplements vs real pollen. We need someone with your position of power to ask the right people to get this testing done. This analysis would lead to whether larvae development is adequate while on supplements. Not only can their immune system be affected, but a lack of certain minerals leads to short-term memory issues. There is more to this supplement feeding, and we need answers. th-cam.com/video/jbXcNF1dtVI/w-d-xo.htmlsi=BBF4Neu56f8EFde7
I definitely agree and I will also say it will be lacking the further out they go without pollen. The supplements are not used to replace pollen but rather fill in deficits and provide bulk to complement the pollen. I have a continually decreasing lack of natural pollen. It’s a huge problem
Im not sure the practices with canola specifically. But I have heard that the use of anti-fungals and certain herbicides, messed with the making of the bee bread. it stops the beneificial fermentation and the fungal activity of the bee bread which in turns makes their guts sick from the lack of that.
Other then the Shed wintering, What else was the same given to the School Test bees? Same source Pollen Patties, syrup, water hole (lake, pond,stream) Boxes Comb ? I wonder if there are others with this issue is there is a same source connection (feed,syrup ?). Anyone else around you that has a LOT of hives and uses Canola as main crop also have this issue this year ? Ask them the same as above for Same Source. If they are not having this issue then you have to ask yourself "WHAT" did I add different (even if same brand of say pollen patties, was it a new mixture ?) Also I think DWV is spread in poop so that's an issue now that it is spread All over your boxes and feeders. I wonder if there are others with this issue is there is a same source connection (feed,syrup ?).
This got me wondering with Cory saying he has very low viral loads with his VSH queens. Our mite loads going up and down with our treatments not keeping viral loads down.
bees can manage mites it's the stuff coming off of the fields, old boy told me when we take the bees back south we will pull all honey and pollen and then supplement feed, he says you have to pump it out of them, replace weak queens and get this I asked what you use to treat with he said they don't treat.
Is there a direct correlation between the shitty hives and viral loads? Do the clean hives also have high viral loads? If so I doubt the problems are related. I overwinter outside in wisconsin. i have had poop all over the front of my hives in spring every year. Except this spring. The only thing I did differently was giving them all a treatment of Super DFM in October. I have no proof that this cleared it up, but I can tell you I will be doing the same thing next october. As for the viral loads, that is above my paygrade. Not sure what can be done about it.
I know it's a lot of work and this winter here in mb was an excellent winter, with many warm spells which gave us flight days. Which is not the norm. Curious if it would be worth the effort to get the hives out for one of these warm spells, let them fly and then put them back in the shed.
Good Morning Ian. My back ground is potable public drinking water. Certified to operate a public water treatment plant. So again where am I coming from. Our sugar water feed. This is the problem...
@@aCanadianBeekeepersBlog We need more testing... I done very basic..... Mould is one of our biggest enemies when it comes to bee feed, we fill up our little dispensers two or three times some beekeepers don’t even clean them every time they refill The problem is mold. I’ve mixed 100 ppm of hydrogen peroxide with minimal demand on pre-chlorinated sugar water. Tested over a month in time to find that hydrogen peroxide using standard drinking water methods works keeps the mould down within the pail feeder
I would also check to see if there is any information on how these viruses spread (like the method of bee to bee contact required). With you over wintering in your shed if, for instance, you had one virus that was airborn (spread simply through the air), depending on your air exchange rate and the location of the sick hive (near the intake) over a few months it could spread to the rest of the hives in the shed. A similar problem might be the virus is capable of staying dormant in the wax of the frames, just waiting for the bees to be in a weakened state to strike.
Other common denominator is length of time in the shed.. and queen starting to brood up bees ingesting stored food to feed new brood. Maybe get them out of the shed earlier and feed them fresh pollen patties and syrup? But are the virals expressing themselves actively or is the testing just showing they exist within the bees but not necessarily active expression?
Ian, I have opportunity to put bees on some canola this year. They say they spray the second week of bloom at night. Do you know if this hurts your bees?
If fever in a human body forces virus to slow down and helps the body fight the virus .... Does raising the internal Hive temperature also have a similar effect ? So if somehow you isolate enough hives and kill all the viral loads in them, and then somehow separate them, and work in batches to slowly kill off all the viral infections... is that even possible ?
I think you should periodically feed the bees while they are inside with small amounts of syrup containing oxytetracycline using bottle feeders from the entrance. It is an easy and cheap solution. You also won't have losses from starvation.
What about the frames with old comb? Virus can hide and survive easily with in old frames and equipment, when the bees in Marts get stressed because of full guts they could get more vulnerable for the virus hiding within the colonies equipment and frames. Can you test comb/equipment for virus spores ?
You are worlds smarter than I am but my thoughts go to bee breed and community feeding. Would be nice to see if Cory's queens would help the situation if he could get the customs issue solved! Maybe more Carni influenced breed may help? No clue where the problem starts but maybe those 2 options could help? Im sure not community feeding would make more work load on you though. Best wishes :)
You can’t overfeed protein at any time of year. They will either eat it and brood up or put on lipids depending on time of year and available food source
Fall is time to fill up winter bees with protein lipids to prolong life. Feed two rounds of pollen or as much as they will eat before putting them away for winter.
What about indoor wintering? I winter outdoors. This winter my bees were on cleansing flight Jan 31, again in early March. No poopy fronts. Last winter they did not get out till April and lots of poppy fronts. I only live 40 miles from you.
Aha , so you give them treatment against loca after all 😀 One thing I know for sure , the bees are more agressive when canola is in bloom Maybe because it is spicy but usually the bees are less agressive when is nectar flow This poopy situation is recent ? I mean , 10 years ago it occured ?
All Canola in Canada is Roundup ready. Wish we would be banning this garbage and go back to rapeseed. That is the reason why for example Germany is no longer importing Canadian honey, because it is genetically modified.
Ian it's Anthony in Australia i had problems bees shiting i used hive alive in sugar syrup i think it helps i we have different climate to you but any thing worth thinking about 😊
Before you mentioned canola in the video, my thought process was of such. Canola is the main crop your bees touch and to my knowledge the diversity out there isn't the greatest. Im wondering if lack of diversity in that diet is causing the early march shits. Also what do your propolis levels look like in the colonies? To my knowledge, that is their best medicine and if that is not available to gather in your area it may be another factor. All of this to say, I don't think this alone is the reason for the viral issues but not sure. It would be interesting to see the results of the tech colonies stores compared to your managed ones. Could rule out most of the nutritional puzzle piece.
Can you give them some vitamine C and some hive alive. There's a study online on how much to give for vitamine c. A small amount in syrup. Maybe try it with some of your hives and see if it makes a difference. I usually do it in fall but can try it now.
@@aCanadianBeekeepersBlog I use Ultrabee in the spring and fall as dry sub and patties I get from Global and last year added Apis Biologix. My hives when I pulled them out were the worst ever with poop at the entrances. Funny part though, I overwintered 4 doubles inside, 3 of them had 0 spotting and one had very very little spotting.
Had to look in my book, September 1st, 2nd and 3rd is when I gave them 2 pounds, only one round. Edit: But the dry feed stays out until I pull them hives inside.
I think you are overthinking this. You had big strong colonies that got light on stores (probably because we had several false springs that warmed up the shed with moist air.) The colonies had to eat the corners of the frames where summer honey is stored, and that gave them more indigestibles than the stored feed. The virus load, that's an unrelated variable.
I agree. Once the bees were into eating the stored pollen, the indigestibles have to make their guts get fuller and fuller with no place to get rid of it. If starvation forced them to start in on old pollen stores, or any old stored artificial stored protein patties, their unhealthy gut full of abnormal indigestibles could give a great chance to have virus loads to soar. If the warm shed got some colonies to start brood, then same problem. They would have to be eating into the stored pollen and stressing their gut and immune system with waste they couldn't eliminate.
Although, the question is how are the accumulated viral loads interacting and affecting our colony development? How many beekeepers have his huge residing viral infection and don’t know any difference. Poor development, looking for something to blame
I'm sure it's not just one thing.. it must be the synergy of more... lack of diversity in their fall feed, you really should rotate some older comb out, can you work a bit more and plant some of their winter food.. l don't know, some fast growing grasses. They have to stay in the shedd for that time.. so pick some changes you can do. Then again, it's not like your hives don't look great
Is this a symptom of monoculture? Do you know of any bee keepers who rely on wild flowers who are having similar issues? In amy case, I hope this can be corrected. Best of luck with it!
@@deanmalkewich2366 humans need animal fat for the best stomach microbiome without it your susceptible to every health issue you can think of, good health starts at the dinner table, humans can eat both plants and meat not sure how bees would process the animal protein, they put eggs in the protein patties already. more fat less carbs, carbs from plants don't bother the bees in the summertime because they are active unlike wintertime when real fat would be essential.
We all know the negative impact when humans are surrounded by feces, especially feces from an ill population. Are you concerned about this? Are you going to scrape down every box and pail and try to disinfection of some type? I'm concerned that excess of feces is going to cause another illness altogether, if not just a continuation of what this is/was as they are around it; inhaling it, walking on it, perhaps inadvertently ingesting it. Tough times with just as tough problem solving. If I was a hobbyist small scale I know my thinking would consider replacing each and every box immediately to ensure the feces could not continue to be an issue in case it was a carrier of nasties and decide what to do with the feces ridden boxes at a later date. The magnitude of that for you is overwhelming. The time alone to just physically move the frames is one thing, cost another, bee response as well as any other factors not off the top of my head....mind boggling.
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Bob, Nathan, and Ian all in the same morning! 🎉❤
I watched Bob’s then Nathan’s! Then Humberto:)
I’m not familiar with Nathan. Would you kindly give a full name or TH-cam name? Many thanks!
I thought the same thing when I saw there videos
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You mentioned the greatest Pollen source was Canola. Anither Question to Ask is what, if anything, has changed with Canola like New Pesticides, New Fertilizers that the Bees' Systems are Weakened by and you're seeing the Long Term Effects of Virally.. Gut Health impacts are Long Term issues Also what was the Same between the Control Group and your Colonies needs Scrutiny. Thank you for Sharing your Investigation!
All my question where answered by your next TH-cam video. Haha, thanks! 😂
The tree sap also slows during drought so maybe the viral load is due to a lack of propolis . My observation hive built up large sores of propolis in the fall. As i understand it is the main defense against viruses.
I don't know if you can supplement sap but i use propolis to coat my plastic frames, instead of wax.
Gotta be length of time locked up with no shitting…. When I started having bees I found your videos and did pretty much everything you do every year. actually everything you do 🤣. I’ve had great luck with healthy bees very little if any losses in winter… except wintering in shed is pretty much only difference idk it’s just a thought. Good luck my friend 💯
Hello! I live in Norway. Our winter bees are made in July/August. At the beginning of September, we start wintering the bees. We take out all the honey and put in empty, newly built frames. It is desirable that bee brood has emerged. Then we only feed with sugar syrup. We calculate 2kg of dry sugar per frame. During November, after clustering we treat with oxalic acid dripping. The bees then sit inside from October to the end of March. Honey contains too much waste materials for the bees to be able to hold it in for so long. We do the droneframe outcuting in may-july.
This is a very interesting approach. When you say "newly built frames", do you mean frames that have been fully drawn out over the summer but are empty, or are you dropping in new frames with plastic backing/wax strip? I assume the bees have enough time to draw out the wax and back fill in two months.
There are frames that are built during summer honey flow, from foundation. You can also use foundation, but it wears so much on the bees. You also want the bees to take down the sugar syrup as quickly as possible. You want as little brood as possible.
It's amazing that we still have so many unknowns!
Ian. Any relevance of old comb being the culprit? Maybe it’s time to look at new wood ware and new comb. Glad to see the girls flying again! Hoping for a good year for ya!
Would be interesting to see if adding the bags of fondant over the top hole helps with that. My bees eat that before anything else. Fondant would not eliminate the pollen consumption of course. If added in mid February before they chisel out the canola honey might make a difference.
I overwinter outside in double and I noticed years ago if my bees including freshly installed nucs started pooping all over the fronts of their hives if I took away the 1-1 sugar water it cleared up immediately. Just an observation.
Did you see bobs video with the essential oils they used to get rid of EFB? Might be worth a shot, it cleaned up one of his diseased hives in two weeks. Mixture of Canola Oil, Tea Tree, Camphor and eucalyptus.
Can it be the open feeding spreading the viruses? And i also saw an article regarding lactobacillus and its benefits to the honeybee gut flora. I believe it was university of Guelph that did it
I have noticed a higher than normal level of the same viruses in my bees here in Florida. Was not sure what was happening but that you are having the same issue is interesting. Keep warm
So the question I have… is this year 23/24 days in the shed longer than previous years?
I’m certain they can only hold their poop so long, perhaps the weather last fall forced you to shed your colonies sooner than normal?
Speaking of viruses. I use propolis traps. Now I'm wondering if I shouldn't be leaving filled traps on over the winter.
The 40-year veteran that I stole all my beekeeping notes from told me supplements don't make good bees. But what does he know? What we do know is that there is a relation between nutrition and the health of any and all animals. The ones that eat better are stronger and live longer with fewer health conditions. Bees are probably the exception, rocket fuel, and global patties make super bees. What we need is the royal jelly nutrition analysis when fed on supplements, compared to a natural diet or something along those lines. We know that if the mother eats terrible, the health of the baby can be affected. Maybe if the diet of the winter bee larva is poor, the bee just isn't as healthy. I read a study that royal jelly is the same all over the world regardless of the pollen source, but no information on jelly produced on supplements.
If I had abundant natural pollen I wouldn’t need supplements. That’s my problem, loss of diversity from agriculture and development.
So it’s either starve to provide feed. My hands are tied
@aCanadianBeekeepersBlog I mentioned testing the nutritional properties of royal jelly made from supplements vs real pollen. We need someone with your position of power to ask the right people to get this testing done. This analysis would lead to whether larvae development is adequate while on supplements. Not only can their immune system be affected, but a lack of certain minerals leads to short-term memory issues. There is more to this supplement feeding, and we need answers.
th-cam.com/video/jbXcNF1dtVI/w-d-xo.htmlsi=BBF4Neu56f8EFde7
I definitely agree and I will also say it will be lacking the further out they go without pollen.
The supplements are not used to replace pollen but rather fill in deficits and provide bulk to complement the pollen. I have a continually decreasing lack of natural pollen. It’s a huge problem
Shelter is a key component to honey bees. 🤨Ian your paint is pealing and staples are falling out.🤭got a 🔨.😂Blessed Days Ian.
Im not sure the practices with canola specifically. But I have heard that the use of anti-fungals and certain herbicides, messed with the making of the bee bread. it stops the beneificial fermentation and the fungal activity of the bee bread which in turns makes their guts sick from the lack of that.
Yes I believe that’s not too far off
Other then the Shed wintering, What else was the same given to the School Test bees? Same source Pollen Patties, syrup, water hole (lake, pond,stream) Boxes Comb ? I wonder if there are others with this issue is there is a same source connection (feed,syrup ?). Anyone else around you that has a LOT of hives and uses Canola as main crop also have this issue this year ? Ask them the same as above for Same Source. If they are not having this issue then you have to ask yourself "WHAT" did I add different (even if same brand of say pollen patties, was it a new mixture ?) Also I think DWV is spread in poop so that's an issue now that it is spread All over your boxes and feeders. I wonder if there are others with this issue is there is a same source connection (feed,syrup ?).
Same length of winter
I watched Cory talk about vsh queens being virus resistant. Thoughts on changing our bringing in genetics too try and solve this?
This got me wondering with Cory saying he has very low viral loads with his VSH queens. Our mite loads going up and down with our treatments not keeping viral loads down.
bees can manage mites it's the stuff coming off of the fields, old boy told me when we take the bees back south we will pull all honey and pollen and then supplement feed, he says you have to pump it out of them, replace weak queens and get this I asked what you use to treat with he said they don't treat.
@@Draintheswamp2024 No, bees can't manage varroa. Perhaps the ultra-selected ones can, but 'normal' bees can't.
@@tachedegraisse1303If they were allowed to keep their honey stores there would be a brood break early in the year that might do the trick
Is there a direct correlation between the shitty hives and viral loads? Do the clean hives also have high viral loads? If so I doubt the problems are related. I overwinter outside in wisconsin. i have had poop all over the front of my hives in spring every year. Except this spring. The only thing I did differently was giving them all a treatment of Super DFM in October. I have no proof that this cleared it up, but I can tell you I will be doing the same thing next october. As for the viral loads, that is above my paygrade. Not sure what can be done about it.
I have a composite sample for virus detection. It’s very expensive to run colony to colony analysis
I know it's a lot of work and this winter here in mb was an excellent winter, with many warm spells which gave us flight days. Which is not the norm. Curious if it would be worth the effort to get the hives out for one of these warm spells, let them fly and then put them back in the shed.
Oh that definitely would of relieved some pressure
Good Morning Ian. My back ground is potable public drinking water. Certified to operate a public water treatment plant. So again where am I coming from. Our sugar water feed. This is the problem...
I hear ya. I’m scared stiff altering the sugar , but keep talking !
@@aCanadianBeekeepersBlog We need more testing... I done very basic..... Mould is one of our biggest enemies when it comes to bee feed, we fill up our little dispensers two or three times some beekeepers don’t even clean them every time they refill The problem is mold. I’ve mixed 100 ppm of hydrogen peroxide with minimal demand on pre-chlorinated sugar water. Tested over a month in time to find that hydrogen peroxide using standard drinking water methods works keeps the mould down within the pail feeder
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I would also check to see if there is any information on how these viruses spread (like the method of bee to bee contact required). With you over wintering in your shed if, for instance, you had one virus that was airborn (spread simply through the air), depending on your air exchange rate and the location of the sick hive (near the intake) over a few months it could spread to the rest of the hives in the shed. A similar problem might be the virus is capable of staying dormant in the wax of the frames, just waiting for the bees to be in a weakened state to strike.
I’ve never heard of bee air born virus
Just thought I would ask but do you do any probiotics or ProDFM or anything like that. Thanks 4 the videos
Not those products but I do supplement with prebiotics and post biotics
Mabye feed a thymol fondant over winter to help with disease? You can feed that while they are in the shed also.
Other common denominator is length of time in the shed.. and queen starting to brood up bees ingesting stored food to feed new brood. Maybe get them out of the shed earlier and feed them fresh pollen patties and syrup? But are the virals expressing themselves actively or is the testing just showing they exist within the bees but not necessarily active expression?
Unfortunately I have no control over the cold and extreme weather of winter
Ian have you ever tested your comb, trying to figure out chemical build up in the wax?
Yes, Amitraz residue
Ian, I have opportunity to put bees on some canola this year. They say they spray the second week of bloom at night. Do you know if this hurts your bees?
It’s fungicide. No it dosent hurt the bees,,… or does it?! That’s my question
If fever in a human body forces virus to slow down and helps the body fight the virus .... Does raising the internal Hive temperature also have a similar effect ? So if somehow you isolate enough hives and kill all the viral loads in them, and then somehow separate them, and work in batches to slowly kill off all the viral infections... is that even possible ?
I think you should periodically feed the bees while they are inside with small amounts of syrup containing oxytetracycline using bottle feeders from the entrance. It is an easy and cheap solution. You also won't have losses from starvation.
Except I find the liquid diet inside loosens up the bees gut
oxytetracycline is a broad spectrum antibiotics, works great for bacterial infection, but does not work for viral infections.
@@boudibla4011 we have done experiments and laboratory analysis which showed us positive results regarding the deformed wing virus.
@@boudibla4011we have done experiments and laboratory analysis which showed us positive results regarding the deformed wing virus.
What about the frames with old comb? Virus can hide and survive easily with in old frames and equipment, when the bees in Marts get stressed because of full guts they could get more vulnerable for the virus hiding within the colonies equipment and frames. Can you test comb/equipment for virus spores ?
Definitely a problem
More rotation is needed
You are worlds smarter than I am but my thoughts go to bee breed and community feeding. Would be nice to see if Cory's queens would help the situation if he could get the customs issue solved! Maybe more Carni influenced breed may help? No clue where the problem starts but maybe those 2 options could help? Im sure not community feeding would make more work load on you though. Best wishes :)
You can’t overfeed protein at any time of year. They will either eat it and brood up or put on lipids depending on time of year and available food source
Fall is time to fill up winter bees with protein lipids to prolong life. Feed two rounds of pollen or as much as they will eat before putting them away for winter.
Protein is not a lipid. Sugar can end up stored lipid but not protein. @@fredselby9990
The lipids are fed with the supplement
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What about indoor wintering? I winter outdoors. This winter my bees were on cleansing flight Jan 31, again in early March. No poopy fronts. Last winter they did not get out till April and lots of poppy fronts. I only live 40 miles from you.
Yes definitely an advantage to get those flights
Are the crops you use GMO ? If you don't mind me asking.
We’ve used GMO for 25 or more years now
@@aCanadianBeekeepersBlog I have no follow on question for that. lol
Aha , so you give them treatment against loca after all
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One thing I know for sure , the bees are more agressive when canola is in bloom Maybe because it is spicy but usually the bees are less agressive when is nectar flow
This poopy situation is recent ? I mean , 10 years ago it occured ?
Regarding virus, to ask the obvious; What are your mite loads right before you put them in the shed? Also might test the virus loads at the same time.
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Ian, is the canola in the area Roundup ready and/or genetically modified? Maybe linked to the gut issues in your bees
All Canola in Canada is Roundup ready. Wish we would be banning this garbage and go back to rapeseed. That is the reason why for example Germany is no longer importing Canadian honey, because it is genetically modified.
Ian it's Anthony in Australia i had problems bees shiting i used hive alive in sugar syrup i think it helps i we have different climate to you but any thing worth thinking about 😊
Before you mentioned canola in the video, my thought process was of such. Canola is the main crop your bees touch and to my knowledge the diversity out there isn't the greatest. Im wondering if lack of diversity in that diet is causing the early march shits. Also what do your propolis levels look like in the colonies? To my knowledge, that is their best medicine and if that is not available to gather in your area it may be another factor. All of this to say, I don't think this alone is the reason for the viral issues but not sure. It would be interesting to see the results of the tech colonies stores compared to your managed ones. Could rule out most of the nutritional puzzle piece.
Hi. What was average temperature in you shed in this year?
5C
Can you give them some vitamine C and some hive alive. There's a study online on how much to give for vitamine c. A small amount in syrup. Maybe try it with some of your hives and see if it makes a difference. I usually do it in fall but can try it now.
Do you know of any Dakota guys that are experiencing the same issue’s as with canola?
No I don’t but they don’t winter in ND. Basically they all leave to TX
what do you use for subblement feed the yellow stuff
Ultrabee
@@aCanadianBeekeepersBlog I use Ultrabee in the spring and fall as dry sub and patties I get from Global and last year added Apis Biologix. My hives when I pulled them out were the worst ever with poop at the entrances. Funny part though, I overwintered 4 doubles inside, 3 of them had 0 spotting and one had very very little spotting.
How late did you feed the protein ?
Had to look in my book, September 1st, 2nd and 3rd is when I gave them 2 pounds, only one round.
Edit: But the dry feed stays out until I pull them hives inside.
Hello friend
Maybe the bees just leave the lower quality feed for last, maybe even fermented feed and when they start eating that they get the shits.
Yes, I believe so as well and possibly exactly as simple as that
I would test the feed tanks and buckets, virus feed on sugars.
Do these viruses have a "country of origin" as it were ,viruses are very similar to invasive species and bees are a highly transported livestock
J’ai passé mes hausse à couvain des ruches mortes cet hiver a la flamme pour essayer de désinfecter…
I think you are overthinking this. You had big strong colonies that got light on stores (probably because we had several false springs that warmed up the shed with moist air.) The colonies had to eat the corners of the frames where summer honey is stored, and that gave them more indigestibles than the stored feed. The virus load, that's an unrelated variable.
I agree. Once the bees were into eating the stored pollen, the indigestibles have to make their guts get fuller and fuller with no place to get rid of it. If starvation forced them to start in on old pollen stores, or any old stored artificial stored protein patties, their unhealthy gut full of abnormal indigestibles could give a great chance to have virus loads to soar. If the warm shed got some colonies to start brood, then same problem. They would have to be eating into the stored pollen and stressing their gut and immune system with waste they couldn't eliminate.
Possibly exactly that.
Although, the question is how are the accumulated viral loads interacting and affecting our colony development? How many beekeepers have his huge residing viral infection and don’t know any difference. Poor development, looking for something to blame
@@aCanadianBeekeepersBlog totally agree. We need across industry diagnostic work stat!
Maybe a University study could help to initiate that. It would be a great PhD project.
Left one box of honey in fall and you will not have shitty colonies
I'm sure it's not just one thing.. it must be the synergy of more... lack of diversity in their fall feed, you really should rotate some older comb out, can you work a bit more and plant some of their winter food.. l don't know, some fast growing grasses. They have to stay in the shedd for that time.. so pick some changes you can do. Then again, it's not like your hives don't look great
The lack of diversity is for sure a factor. It’s the reason why I focus on supplements
How about move out a few hive in early March and is if it help
If they can’t fly anyway, there’s no benefit. Winter is winter regardless inside or out
The daily temperature swinging... in versus out!
I was just thinking about all the fresh air out smelling all the same air just like catching a cold is harder to catch if your out side then in side
Ah I see
Perhaps
@@jerryhemphill4658 Perhaps an iWave... negative ions and economize to recover heat while changing the air
One sick person on a plane. Everyone is sick. Shed or plane no difference.
That’s spread by water particles or contact of water particles on surfaces. I would not consider the same other than if the virus lived on bee dust
Need good rain clean up that poo everywhere light rain might cause it to spread again too thou.. heavy rain for hour or so
Is this a symptom of monoculture? Do you know of any bee keepers who rely on wild flowers who are having similar issues? In amy case, I hope this can be corrected. Best of luck with it!
Monoculture as a culprit, yes
Pushing the afb vaccine ?
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I have not mentioned AFB at all anywhere in this video
@@aCanadianBeekeepersBlog you leaked page two yesterday... oops 😬
are you going to test the bacon grease or just sit back and twiddle your thumbs, test it on a few with high levels mix it with dry pollen
Bacon grease?
@@deanmalkewich2366 yes sir
@@Draintheswamp2024 ok I’ll bite. Tell me more.
@@deanmalkewich2366 humans need animal fat for the best stomach microbiome without it your susceptible to every health issue you can think of, good health starts at the dinner table, humans can eat both plants and meat not sure how bees would process the animal protein, they put eggs in the protein patties already. more fat less carbs, carbs from plants don't bother the bees in the summertime because they are active unlike wintertime when real fat would be essential.
It is not good for bees to go 4 months or longer without pooping.
Tell that to old man winter
We all know the negative impact when humans are surrounded by feces, especially feces from an ill population. Are you concerned about this? Are you going to scrape down every box and pail and try to disinfection of some type? I'm concerned that excess of feces is going to cause another illness altogether, if not just a continuation of what this is/was as they are around it; inhaling it, walking on it, perhaps inadvertently ingesting it. Tough times with just as tough problem solving. If I was a hobbyist small scale I know my thinking would consider replacing each and every box immediately to ensure the feces could not continue to be an issue in case it was a carrier of nasties and decide what to do with the feces ridden boxes at a later date. The magnitude of that for you is overwhelming. The time alone to just physically move the frames is one thing, cost another, bee response as well as any other factors not off the top of my head....mind boggling.
neonicotinoid exposure