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'Had It And Then Lost It' Many Times
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 เม.ย. 2021
- A man from Ukraine says he has had many glimpses of his true nature but he also loses the experience many times. Rupert tells him that he loses it because he thinks it is a state that starts and stops, and encourages him not to be seduced by an expansive feeling.
This clip has been taken from Rupert's five day Retreat at Home in November 2020. To watch the full video, please follow the link below.
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When in doubt or lost in the semantic labyrinth of spiritual teachings just come back to Rupert
Lmfao indeed
So true
Come back to your Self
You cannot lose it because you never "had" it to begin with. You are it, and you always have been.
Well.... "it" sucks!
Yes. Only thought says you don’t have it, and need to obtain it. 😃
@@dragonton4455 LOL
Eckhart Tolle: You are the sky, the clouds are what happens, what comes and goes.
The search for awakening on youtube non duality videos never ends. It ends when you realize the seeking in time for fulfillment is an illusion.
a youtube non duality videos are reminders for me (and a "sport" too😀)
So true. Thank you 🙏
This goes so well with my ACIM lesson of today. Lesson 107
Truth will correct all errors in my mind, And I will rest in Him Who is my Self.
This is an amazing lesson indeed
That’s very healing, I just let it sink in to my mind.
“He who binds himself to a joy
Does the wingèd life destroy.”
William Blake
a beautiful quote, expanded on by Rupert in the last moments of this clip.
Thankyou, Rupert🙏🏼
Also, it seems key to consider that for any rapid expansion there will be a contraction, which is typically overcoupled with unpleasant cognitions and self-concepts. It's part of the process.
Unfortunately the ego mind is really not interested in neutral peace, which appears to be nothing special. Mind only appreciates experience, it wants thrills, and will even choose suffering over the void
Same here. I make it like an attainable success like i have to work hard to get it..
I'd disagree with that - I think the ego mind is very interested in peace but it picks from the "menu" of possibilities it can make sense of, namely objective experience (material objects, drama, animalistic satisfaction). The happiness this teaching speaks of is beyond what the ego can comprehend so when it tries to imagine it providing that peace and happiness it simply cannot and then reverts to those lesser forms. My two cents.
@@robmaric Ego is the driver of all desires. Ego has hijacked enlightenment as the ultimate answer to its confusion, uncertainty, and psychological suffering. The vision of being stoically unmoved by the vicissitudes of life is more fodder for ego’s demands of its unreasonable and unrealistic expectations from life
@@TheSoteriologist What happens then?
Nothing wrong with ego. Just know it’s place. Guide it, hone it, paint it, & let it go. It doesn’t have to be your master. Flip the script. Who’s in the driver seat? You got this!
Good morning everyone 🙏🤗 be kind to yourselves.
Thank you. Lots of big hugs 🤗
Which self? :-)
@@angelfire1987 there's only One.
This was a very important clarification on my journey. This unlocked another door for me. Thank you Rupert. 🙏❤
For me also!!
I too have experienced a sense of ‘loss’, but this has helped to put the situation into context. Thank you!
Realising that bliss and happiness are mental states that are impermanent by nature, and not the "goal" of awakening, and being comfortable with that, is a mark of spiritual growth. If you try to be blissful all the time, you are either not being truthful to what is (the fact that you are not in a blissful state), clinging onto hope (a false mental idea of permanence) and clouding what is always present ("I am").
Nice reply. Might just be me, but it seems that a lot of guru's/teachers speak of bliss and happiness as our true nature and that was always confusing to my western mind. I always equated bliss to a very high, pleasurable feeling. Only relatively recently have I come to the awareness that it is peace within that is the "set point". All other emotions arise and flow through; they are transient. If I just "be", with no thought of the past or future, the experience is peace, which is calm, tranquil, content; nothing else is needed.
I needed this after my mushroom trip in the morning
Magic mushrooms are very powerful and can point you directly to the truth if you are ready to perceive it. They are a true gift of nature to us indeed. A powerful medicine for the body and the soul.
Beautiful nuggets.... Let it go when.it goes.... Peace of your True Nature always remains. 💖🤗
Best answer I’ve ever heard to this perennial question.
Thank you both, for the question and the answer, they really helped me
Let it go when it goes❤ Thank you Rupert, happy to know it! 🌹❤
I have these glimpses too, i think most peoples do but yeah they always go. If it could stay like that forever it would be amazing.
It’s not difficult. I suggest you to read sri ramana maharshi’s teachings and start your sadhana. I recommend Rupert Spira very much as well. Perhaps watch his videos will doing your sadhana (atma vichara).
I agree. Same
Practice fasting.-you’ll have more regular experiences.
@@Mat-cm6he how to do the sadhana?
We are conditioned by our upbringing. But are we aware of that fact, also our minds tend to wander, if it wanders off can you just realise that fact that you have become unaware.
in that realisation that you are inattentive, there is awareness. The more we are aware of our being and of focus the more one comes to know that preferred state of quiet and peace which is actually who we are, but in being conditioned by society , parents, peers, we have moved away from it. but dont panic, pay attention to the fact that you are alive and observe your thoughts as much as you can, observe all you do during the day, observe everything. One day you realise ,that state you previously regarded as fleeting, has stayed, because it was never a state to be obtained in the first place, it is you , without all the baggage of conditioning and image.
These questions are so helpful for all of us.. Thank you
Attachment to feeling of ‘happiness’ or in my case it’s the bliss after meditation. I know that feeling when it doesn’t happen-have to remind myself to let go of that ‘target’ to get to and that acceptance of the moment is the only thing there is - whatever the feeling.
😂 As soon as the question was asked I quoted Blake in my head. Rupert ahead of the game for quoting it 🙏
yes totally relate. So happy to know others also experience this kind of disappointment. That's not the best phrasing, but you know what I mean! lol. But it's just another lesson in letting go (-:
I see happiness as something attained from our external environment. Joy as the unconscious true place we all come from. It doesn't matter what we call that something we experience as long as we recognize it...
I really needed to here this today ❤️
Hope you’re feeling OK?
Imagine a camera that sees everything. Take the camera away, but the seeing remains. That is what Rupert is pointing to when he refers to the background observer that is our true selves.
That's not even close👎
I like that 👍🤗 thanks
@@mclarsen61 your welcome
@@dragonton4455 You're not even close.
@@FloydGoldkatz shut your mouth
Such beautiful clarification. Thank you 🙏🏻
Thank you, Rupert
I was about to ask the same question to RS in this webinar but could not make it. Great clarification. Thank you
I like you metaphor with the blue sky and blue spots.
Heart Sutra, 'no attainment with nothing to attain.'
Waaaaaaaaaay too simplistic to say without a complete explanation of the nature of that "nothing" to which you refer. Beware that it can also be exceptionally misleading if "nothing" is misunderstood as the "nothing" typically referred to in the mundane world. There are those who do experience a very profound "nothingness". However, without appropriate insight into the true, authentic nature of that "nothingness", they stop cold and remain firmly fixed in and proud of their accomplishment. In the grip of that falsehood, they'll actually attempt to enforce it on others.
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@@Da_Xman Does nothingness have a nature? Is there a 'mundane' separate from 'exceptional'? Can you find a world? Is nothingness a 'thing' that is experienced by 'someone'? If there is nothingness, then is there thingness? Explanations only reaffirm such dualistic notions. Notions such as spiritual, training, attainment and cultivation blind what already, always is.
Heart Sutra, 'far apart from every deluded view, dwell in nirvana'.
@@philipsmart1453 Whoa, Smarty, let's not get Cheeky! All those rhetorical, condescending and patronizing questions seem as if you're actually a digital Buddhist satsang robot. ∆ CLICK HERE IF YOU'RE A PERSON...??? My reply to you was merely to indicate the very confusing (and alienating) error of tossing out the special application of the word "nothingness", as if everyone will typically understand what you're saying. And, most won't (most certainly), especially out here, in the wild. Loads and loads of everyday folks haven't an iota of a clue concerning the special Eastern application of words like "nothingness" and "emptiness". Those applications are unique to various Eastern philosophies and a great percentage of TH-cam readers have no idea, will misunderstand and say to hell with it, at best. And, please, this is a reply, not a discussion or a question to be addressed with Buddhist style satsang commentary. Save that for the appropriate time with an appropriate audience. Otherwise, you might as well be speaking in Martian to an ape.
@@Da_Xman Certainly not meaning to be condescending or patronizing. Mine was a reply too, sorry it was taken the wrong way. Don't wear a robe, shave my head, count beads, go to satsang, have a guru, third eye tattoo or discuss these ridiculous notions unless someone takes an interest. 🤷♂️🤦♂️
@@philipsmart1453 Thanks (so much!) for your clarification! And, you have my apologies as well. Especially on TH-cam, the written word can be difficult, at best (so, I just stumble along). Keep on keepin' on...!!!
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Thank you from India ❤
You don’t lose it you just forgot it and that is normal you can’t be greedy about it. If it was meant to be you would be in that state longer.Just appreciate it ....life ,moments.......
June Lockhart is a great actress.
I watched 'Timmie and Lassie' and
'Lost In Space' when I was a youngster.
I always loved her !!
Beautiful thanks so much for this
I have failed enough times. I don't know what it means by having something though because I feel like I haven't even started yet let alone having it.
Ahh that was lovely
Thanks Rupert❤️
Thank you Rupert! ❤
Thank you
Amazing insights, thank you! 😊🙏
Wow, yes.
Thank you.
I'm fed up with living in fear I'm so scared to be brave yet when i am scared its because I'm scared of death the outcome of what may happen i woke up this morning thinking do i live to die then i looked into the mirror and thought what if I'm already dead what is it im trying to control life but yet im a spirit the spirit is dead the physical body is alive i guess il be enquiring more about this because its been 3 years of my spiritual awakening yet i feel im not moving forward but backwards but i guess im moving backwards because i won't let go of who i think i am. Thank you ❣
@@openyoureyes1763 i am greatful but i nevrr died only the physical body sorry bob im confused your reply makes no sense but i appreciate your putting this down
It’s always here
Watch Ramesh Balsekar. He explains in very practical terms what Rupert Spira is pointing to. Peace of mind in everyday living is a kind of happiness... Or the absence of unhappiness. Peace of mind comes about when we are free of suffering
Thank you 🙏🏽💕🎶
Very helpful thank you :)
Thank you 🙏🏻
Great stuff
I had only what I call a shift in consciousness in the early 90 s and saw a glimpse of how all is interconnected and maintained a higher consciousness state for years and my yoga meditation helped maintain my higher consciousness state .recently due to me not doing my practices I felt my vibration drop and I felt a loss of connection to source . I do believe to maintain higher states daily practice needs to be done . You never loose the knowing but you can loose the clarity through stress etc . This can come back easily if we de stress and connect to source and union yoga unifies meditation you can drop into connection within minutes or seconds with daily practice but if less frequent it's harder to connect in .This is my recent experience I felt like a fallen angel but know the way back to self and grill connection like a shamen does . Bioenergetic consciousness awareness clarity knowing . You are the Chanel we only block ourselves from the Chanel staying clear, light body .
However all is interconnected we know .
I agree I do that too
muito bom!
makes sense tbh
"You're mistaking the state of the mind and body with pure happiness"
But won't pure happiness be felt/sensed by the mind and body only? I so get his question. I've had that too. That feeling of pure bliss that comes and goes. Why? Can we not permanently rest in it? I do get it that it's always there and clouds cover it. So then can we not remove the clouds forever? Can we or can we not?
I think it’s simply a practice that requires repetition until we intuitively learn to cultivate and hone into that everlasting sense of peace, that background that’s truly always there. That’s why meditation is helpful because it helps train the mind to naturally commence to return and hone that focus despite the clouds that come by. Meditation (which can be done in a plethora of ways) simply trains your mind to turn this act of returning to complete neutrality into a reflex so that once we are out there experiencing life in the noisiest of places, we naturally hone into that neutrality. If you think about how Buddha ‘attained enlightenment” under a tree, it talks about how the “demon mara” tried to distract his attention/awareness. First through exciting ideas like wealth and beauty, and then through fear, like starvation and death. And yet, he continued simply letting it all go, accepting his potential death - persevering through exciting thoughts and the fearful ones until his mind learned to not even try to grasp onto any thought (emotions/concepts). So, it’s simply a matter of practice. There are no limitations because everything is an illusion, and everything is also self. Coming to terms that we aren’t real, that this individual sense of self is an illusion of the mind, can be helpful in this practice. We are the ego, and we are also beyond it. We are every rock, tree, creature, every life, every spirit haha. So, there are no true obstacles or enemies. Everything is a reflection. Have faith in your own self design. The self that is all of us. The ultimate self created a design for each of its different sense of self. You, me, and every other thing or being that existence all throughout reality. Get yourself a journal and write down these realizations. Write down that your sense of individual self is an illusion. Allow yourself to taste that bitterness, the more you affirm this to yourself, the more it goes from tasting bitter to feeling liberating. Good luck mate!
@@oscardiaz9966 Noting every bit down since last 22 years :)
@@oscardiaz9966 Thank you!
How do I be 'in the background', and a part of the world at the same time?
Ehmmm ... to which "I" do you refer, Katlyn?
@@ferdinandocoluccelli9574 hmm.. haha.
I guess I'm having trouble with what feels like, my awareness contracting and expanding often. I have a difficult time expanding again once I have contracted & the illusion of separation often flashes in and out of existence.
@@KateAtNight It's so simple, Katlyn ... YOU are what you are looking for :)
Please let fall the thougths, let them go, don't care of them ... then see the Beauty that remains: that Beauty are You!
How beautiful you are!
@@ferdinandocoluccelli9574 thank you for your guidance 🙏
@@KateAtNight you're welcome Katlyn! May you have a wonderful life, my dear. A big hug from an old italian grandpa
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I cant really understand what that guy is saying xD He speaks a lot tho
Hold Your Breath.. No problem, just continue listening..🙏
Me too. Subtitles would be useful
@@truchua2626 Click on the button for captions.
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He wants to be high on exspsnsion
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Thank you
Beautiful