Tantric and Vedantic Approaches to Negative Emotions
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 มิ.ย. 2024
- A man asks Rupert for guidance on emotional 'triggers.'
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The vedantic approach is for the mind, the story we create around our suffering. It questions the one who suffer- we look within and find pure knowing, an ocean of awareness laden with peace. There is no suffering.
The tantric approach is for the body, where we unify our being with the essence of the sensation we feel. We forgo any need to label the sensation with emotional hues or associated negative context, but simply feel the raw sensation. We find there is nothing to run from at all. There is peace.
Thank-you Rupert, thank-you so much, for the healing your light has shone on me. And thank-you Beloved for guiding me here, I am ever so grateful for this journey in melding my being with the truth of ourselves, in peace.
is it possible to follow these approaches with anxiety and its different symptoms?
Well done
@@ELAZA yes
Wonderful 🙏🏻♥️
@@ELAZA give it a shot :)
"Your suffering cannot stand the investigation" ...Golden nugget!! ❤
This is f*cking gorgeous. A must-watch for anyone on the spiritual path. I've shared it widely. Love.
Probably the most successful approach to coping with, even treating anxiety attacks is to engage with them, embrace them, an illustration of the Tantric approach.
These instructions are extremely powerful and need to be taught in schools.
I hope I’ve had a part into him reaching 100k, I quoted him 3 times in my book and share and mention his videos all the time. I wish he could get on every big platform: JRE, Oprah, Ellen, etc etc. could literally change the world.
Somehow it doesn’t seem like Ruperts way to blow up big. Along with that can come the massive commercialization as did Eckhart Tolle. He just doesn’t seem to need to go that way. He seems very content the way he is. I feel that there are sacrifices going bigtime like ET.
Pure gold
@@pedrogonzales9202¿podrías explicarme en español lo que quieres decir con esto?
@@patakmarta9926 Lo que decía fue que me parece que el "estilo" que tiene Rupert es no comercializar en grande. Hay ellos que lo han hecho como Ekhart Tolle, por ejemplo. Que Rupert parece contento dar sus enseñanzas en una manera muy tranquila. Que- comercializa viene con grandes desafíos y sacrificios. Así fue mi punto.
@@pedrogonzales9202 sí, gracias, es lo que creía haber entendido pero no estaba segura del todo. O sea, Tolle se ha vendido a la popularidad y Rupert no. ¿En qué consisten los desafíos y sacrificios? ¿En la pérdida de la libertad p.ej.?¿ Que tienes que adaptarte a las expectativas de tus seguidores o anfitriones que te invitan para dar tu charla?
No sé. Tolle también me parece auténtico de verdad. Y Rupert por supuesto.
the tantra method can be very helpful for those that become consumed in their emotions; simply feeling emotions apart from the story and labels can help us release any negativity.
One should really try this. Just once. And one can realize how there is no 'sufferer'. There is only a thought, a feeling-sensation and a situation, none of which is actually suffering. Looking for the sufferer makes it disappear into the silent understanding from which the illusory I arose and there is nothing but peace and a quiet joy!
All gratitude to the teaching which take on the nama-rupa of a teacher to be a beacon lighting the the pathless path!
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"All emotions are made out of happiness."
I respectfully disagree ❤
What's really shocking is all the therapy, medicines, light boxes, doctors visits I have "experienced" were all just a thought. A piddly little nothing of a imagined thought.
When I realized that... I broke out in hysterical laughter. So frigging simple and we are all duped. I honestly hope dear friend... you see this and become "enlightened". TA-DA!🎉
Everyone really ought to practice both these approaches to bring relief when needed, and a realization of unity, oneness, interconnectedness - whatever you want to call it - as perceived through one's own awareness and experience. Priceless explanation.
I love it when Rupert is funny. Helps me receive the message more effortlessly.
Thank you Questioner and Rupert. This is amazing to find this tonight. It is quite a synchronicity for me because just yesterday I was triggered and did both methods and did not know that the “asking who feels it” is Vedantic approach and “let me just really sit with this and feel it as far as present as I can” is the Tantric approach. It really is effective. Watching this video has solidified the memory of my organic method that arose. I can more easily remember to do this whenever negative emotions arise. 🙏🏼❤️
Absolutely loved this video. Thank you so much for this valuable information. Lots of love from an Australian 🇦🇺❤
It's a McDonald's presentation, but Rupert is clever enough to transmit the teaching effectively in a 13 minute video. Thank you, Rupert!
You’re an absolute God send 🙏🏽♥️
Very helpful! I wish I knew this at the beginning of my spiritual path 34 years ago!
Thank you so very much 🙏
Pure Gold!
I have just listened to Rupert. Love all his messages.
I usually have the spiritual rug pulled beneath my feet, The I has been veiled by darkness, it has consumed me.
It takes a few days for the darkness to subside, light appears. I, am here.
Repeat, repeat, repeat .
Amazing, Rupert 🙏❤️
Wow, such wisdom. Thank you for sharing so I could hear this today 😊
I am aware of these anxious thoughts and feelings. They come and go in the awareness that I am.
Wow. I love this. Thank you so much🙏
Great explanation, very useful, thank you Rupert
I tried this. It works! Brilliant!
Wonderful. So clear.
Wow!!!! Thank you Rupert
Beautiful 🙏🏻💕
Heartiest congratulations for 100k subscribers. I am so happy to see more and more people joining and following the clear cut direct path. I won't be surprised for the exponential increase for your subscription. You are one of the best teacher at present . We are blessed to have you. 💕💕💕💕💕💕
Oh yes. I'm sure that Rupert, like the common youtube content creator, is desperately trying to get as many subscribers as he can to aggrandize his ego via popularity. If this is what you think, so much so that you are congratulating him for this grand threshold of subscribers, then me thinks you are entirely missing the point of what he is speaking of. You might also notice that it took 12 years for this channel to get to that mark. Which speaks more to the sincerity and truth of his words and the so very few who listen purposefully to the teachings he articulates.
@UCsEeUhEl5oouiA1mfT7MzoQ is that your "selfless will" talking? At least I'm not personally attacking anyone. And then hiding from any rebuttal by deleting my comments. This is what is known as cowardice, "selfless will". And you're missing the point entirely. Have you ever heard Rupert say "like and subscribe"... No, you haven't. That's not why these videos are posted. That's not the intention of this channel. And using the standard youtube yeehaw for all the subscribers, in my opinion, is missing that point. So you, "selfless will" can call me a "deush" (whatever that is) and ridicule me and berate me personally, and then delete your comments in an attempt to hide your own egoic bs, but I stand by my comment. To: selfless will... Now I see. Your channel "Selfless Will" is full of videos about spiritual awakening and the like. Couldn't allow your egos true colors to be seen in the comments, eh? Maybe then no one would believe you were enlightened. This is the same spiritual hypocrisy that is so rampant these days, that I was referring to in my initial comment. Doing all of this for likes, unlike Rupert who, in my opinion, does not do that. No wonder you got so defensive. For anyone that wants to check out true spiritual hypocrisy, look at the channel "Selfless Will" and I'll dm you the nasty comments this person made to me and then promptly deleted in an attempt to save his image. Perfect.
@@theindigopickle They only act out of what they know, and it is all that they have known at that moment. It is not an easy life to be feigning a connection to our true nature while embodying such hurt inside. Forgive them, in your time. We deserve no less.
Emotions are neither negative or positive but transitory states produced by chemicals in the brain responding to stimuli from the sensory apparatus. Therefore another aspect of Maya. .
Thank you
Wow! What amazing insight
It's a great truth - The Source of it all is one - love, happiness or a need to expand somehow! 🙏
powerful exploration, thank you for sharing :)
Very useful, thank you kindly.
Just. Wow.
Great. Thanks
🙏🏼🌟Oh Rupert! This is a divine comedy.😂😂😂
Love-work in Action
Astonishing
What a master🙏🙏
I love you Rupert
I used the tantric thing once when I barefoot stepped on a bee. Worked very well.
Always good🔥🤘
I feel like rupert was like “mic drop” at the end
1000 views, 100000 subscribers. Neat!
The self is the chooser, the experiencer of thoughts, and the experiencer of feeling. There is no describing the self as the self can only be experienced through the self. It's like a camera capturing the world and knowing it is capturing the world but never capturing itself. The world is filled with unreliable mirrors. Depending on where you are, what you are doing, and who you are with, you see different things reflected back to you through others. So it's hard to have a fixed sense of self. The feelings precede the bodily experience. The anger precedes the hotness, the increased heart rate, and the intensity of feeling in the jaw. The anger cannot be found in the body, it originates from the self then gives rise to the feelings in the body.
Who can dislike a Rupert spira video 😂
How beautiful
Omg you talked directly about two main pillars of my spiritual quest. Vedanta and vipassana. I have tried both of them successfully. But am really confused which one to pursue... I'm stuck at this..
Why should you choose? ... is it also possible for you to pursue both side by side as 1, in you ... or does that make no sense?
After all, it is the same source that both roads lead to.
All spiritual paths require sufficient mindfulness otherwise you never see the mirage (of emotions and sensations) clearly. I prefer to see mindfulness as part of self enquiry. I try to keep it strong with regular practice but definitely think spending decades exclusively doing it would be a very very long scenic route compared to active self enquiry and self abidance which are far more proactive at getting to the heart of the matter
@@clckwrk0rng391 you're right, that's what I am currently doing.. Using vipassana when some mental defilement arises, and meditating on "I am" during morning meditation.. Because it's blissful... 😁
@@robmaric indeed! That does make sense.. Thanks for your advice! 😊
@@apurva_joshi_ yeah, why not ... the essence is that which precedes all and brings all that is into existence ... even the road to it, is in its shadow
What of a sensation of illness inside the gut. Direct awareness of it yields a sensations of vomiting/emotional pain? We are chained to the karma of our actions. Samskara is there and takes a moment or two of realization in instances. This would not be for a simple reaction but a cumulative habitual way of being. We would do well not to understand this in a neo Vedantic sense. Intellectual realization has limits on immediate healing. Good video and super lucid as usual.
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What when the sensations in yourbody are not pleasent?
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Anger has arisen. I am aware of it but there is no one doing it. It is a happening,
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20 people got angry and preferred to stick to it.
Where would I be without Rupert Spira., probably in prison .only joking congratulations and thank you for more invaluable help.
100k 😃👌
What does vendantic and tantric mean? Plus thank you ever so much. I particularly find the tantric approach to helpful. Simply focusing on experiencing the raw sensation of the moment. It makes you realise that when a trigger happens, the actual sensation of emotion isn’t as powerful as you thought, and on top of that, only temporary.
@Ben Halo: Experience can be said to have 2 dimensions: content and context. Tantra explores content (what is happening) . . . and Vedanta explores context (where is it happening).
@Ben Halo: I, too, find the Tantric approach especially powerful. It's personal . . . which is important to a western sensibility.
@@QED_ Pretending to be some kind of authority on the matter, when you obviously are not, does not make you enlightened or an actual authority on anything.
Rupert explains the Vedantic and Tantric approaches with great detail throughout many of his beautifully articulated talks listed on his youtube channel and in his website.
@@theindigopickle Your comment has no intellectual content whatsoever. It's just name calling. You should be ashamed of yourself . . .
I feel pretty lost with both pratices, i've did them several times in months and i can't get anywere. I know i'm just the aware presence, but suffering is being noticed by that presence, i can't find an I that suffers but the sadness and anxiety is still being felt. When i bring it close i can't find it to bring it close, i have no idea where the feeling is sitting, so nothing happens, the experience of suffering them still is being known.
You can try vipassana (what he calls here the tantrik method) because the vedantic method requires a considerable amount of will power to ask the question: who is feeling sad! Who is observing the sorrow!
I’m no expert in this field, but it seems to me that you still engage in the sadness and anxiety at some level. I would recommend practicing your stand as awareness of it all. Also I would recommend seeing clearly that you are not those emotions. When my thoughts try to lure me into engaging them I take my stand as awareness of them and soon they let go of their «hold» We always have a choice in every situation, at least we can chose how we look at feelings and situations. One does not have to fight an enemy just because he is there. Indoctrination and past beliefs might need to be worked on first. I try to allow dis-ease and not fight anything coming to me. Just here, right here, right now.
Thank you both
@@luizfbw He has online meetings where you can ask questions might be worth it for you if its an ongoing problem, non-duality.rupertspira.com/webinar also we spend how whole life's believing we are a separate suffering self it as a lot of momentum behind it for most of us the undoing of this belief takes time even if we can see right now awareness's nature is free.
I’d say possibly you haven’t dived into the emotion as much as needed to investigate them. Could you fully feel whatever is present as raw emotion and starve the mind of any kind of reason why it is there? Sit with whatever arises within the body and allow it to be. As you allow it to be there as if it’s allowed to stay forever it begins to dissolve - until you realise it was this exact resistance all along which kept it there in the first place. Slowly but surely you’ll realise nothing in the external world can affect this inner ability to remove resistance. As you surrender deeply you’ll wonder why you felt any need to control anything in the first place. Sensations on their own are harmless. Sensations + a story in the mind = emotions. Hope it helps message me if not !
Very interesting, will have to try that out.
Am I the only one who noticed he did not say "I am angry" ? Pedantic haha, anyway sounds like great methods.
It’s very hard to see the I. I think these people are just making out this vision just to follow Rupert argument
I don't really understand How does this solve anything... i mean the source of my negative emotion when it arises. If I don't go to The reason, to what is triggering me (conditioning, mind pattern, etc) it will come back again and again, won't it?
See for yourself.
@Priscilla Beauchemin: The "my" in your "my negative motion" and the "me" in your "triggering me" . . . are what Vedanta explores. If these "me" and "my" were eliminated . . . that would "solve something", wouldn't it (?)
The ego is like tunnel vision.
It may sound pretty simple when one listens to such talks, but it is just an intellectual understanding, not an experiential one. It applies to the teacher, fine, not to the untrained minds. I am not saying the information is not useful, but old habits quickly kick in before realizing it, especially in a crisis. The five hindrances and old conditionings (Sankara) of the mind will pull one back until awareness of each moment becomes second nature. This kind of permanent transformation is only possible through intense sitting like Vipassana practice or similar deep contemplations and self-inquiry in seclusion for a considerable period; no short cuts there. Rupert's is a calming presence, though. Obviously, he has done time!
The time you use to share your memories in this lines you could follow the suggestions. but you are damned to lick on your stinky toes
Trick + present= trigger.
Surely if you bring hate/anger close as close can be, go into it, logically you become that - in short I do not understand this approach, it has very bad consequences for me, makes me more angry, I do prefer the witness approach to pushing anger/hate away that is more logical and works...
If you hold onto the story of the emotion, the Tantrik method will be very dangerous and potentially harmful like you say. In that way, the Tantrik way is quite a bit harder than the vedantic.
So it would probably be best, especially if you feel this way, to practice the vedantic approach until you have gotten really good at it before trying the Tantrik method. Then, you will be better able to become an emotion (which is only a sensation, not the thoughts or stories) without so much danger of getting swept away. It is the story/thinking that makes the suffering.
@@OverdoneAndUnderpaid does the person that, for example, insulted me belongs to the story? Coz everytime I close my eyes, that person appears in my head and I feel triggered again, it happens many times a day, pain get so intense, that I even imagin beating up or killing that person
@@hereandnow5235 they do. everything is awareness. one day you will see that person within your heart too
@@alexfredricks9365 thx
Neither path is about pushing unpleasant feelings away or getting rid of them. They’re both about resting in the truth of Being. I understand that there’s longing for peace and happiness behind your urge to get rid of uncomfortable feelings, but how will you ever be peaceful if you must constantly guard against unpleasantness?
The Tantric path isn’t really about going into the emotion, it’s about bringing it to YOU (Awareness). It’s about drawing it so close that you can clearly see what it’s made of. In that closeness, that inseparable intimacy, you will find only the imperturbable peace that is your own Being. You’ll find only Awareness. What seemed to be separate will have dissolved into inseparable Knowing/Being.
When it’s been proven to you, through your own direct investigation, that there is nothing but Awareness, there will be nothing left to guard against or get rid of. That’s peace/happiness. (Happiness being the absence of lack.)
That investigation into the substance of all apparent things/thoughts/feelings is not something you do a few times with the expectation that it will solve your problems. It’s done over and over until there’s nothing left to investigate. When you can find only the knowing of yourself (Awareness of Awareness), lack will be impossible (and will lose all meaning). You will naturally, effortlessly rest AS happiness/peace.
On a more practical note, I’m going to have to agree with the first commenter-you might want to stick with the Vedantic approach until you feel more settled in your own imperturbability.
answer me! i would appreciate that.
the question is what is the purpose of u be here? as human being?
do u really think that when we die, we will return to our true self, as god? kkkk then what is the point of that we were human being?
we can agree that god was smart, genius before this universe came to existe. so this GOD crated everyting or allow everything to come to existes with out purpose?
how do we supose to know what is right or wrong if there is no revlation, religon?
why i am asking all this is it semes everybody miss the big, imortent point. (the purpose) everyone just talks about just "we are one, u r not what u think u r, ...etc
there is after life as human being. in heven or in hell. belive me u cant do meditation in hell.
it is great to do maditation things like that but that is not the purpose u r here.
ZMAtube: The meaning (purpose) of something . . . is simply the consequences that it has. What is the consequence of an individual human life (?) A certain specific and unique human potential . . . is realized. And that's the meaning of that life: certain human possibilities were actualized.
Happiness. According to Rupert. He has said it many times.
@@QED_ Acting like you know what you're talking about, when you obviously do not, does not make you enlightened.
@@theindigopickle😦 happiness? Do u buy It?. So We r here just to be happy. Ok who Is gonna tell us how to be happy? If some1 say killing ppl makes me happy. Or I wanna hv sex wiz my mother.. things like that... what do we do. Is that right or wrong like who is gonna tell us what is it? How to get? Why? (Happiness)
@@sadam7299 Not the emotion of happiness, necessarily. More like contentment, peace, regular ol', nothing-is-the-matter happiness. I don't have any answers in regards to anyones personal decision making processes. You can ask yourself... Have I ever done anything with the specific intention of making myself unhappy? Anything we do, including murder or exercising an Oedipus complex or suicide or enjoying a day at the beach would only be done because of the happiness we thought it would bring to us, no? Do we not attempt to remove the pain, the suffering, from our lives? And when we succeed at this, and are happy/free/content/peaceful, do we desire anything more than that? Do we not adhere to religious doctrines in an attempt to reach heaven as opposed to hell, and isn't heaven known as eternal happiness (contentment/peace/bliss) and hell known as eternal pain and suffering?
The questioner is too much in his head
This is a bit too simple and too analytic for me. "You're suffering comes from 2 parts; the I and your sensations. Let's get started. Where is the I?" "Well, it's not really there". "Okay, one side of the problem solved. And what about your sensations?" "Yeh, they are not unpleasant." "Okay, that's the other side of the problem solved." Angermanagement in two minutes. For me, it doesn't work like this.
I know. We need to experience this more than trying to think it.
Each part must not only be intellectually understood, but felt. To truly feel that you are not your bodymind is transformative. It takes time. To truly have the courage and love to look at your previously insurmountable and unbearable sensations, intertwined with story and pain is revolutionary. I don't say this lightly. It is a process, but one that has the power to transform our being.
I really hope you stick with this and find what you find. Not as a way of ridding yourself of these emotions - that may happen in it's time - but as a way of seeking truth.
I wish you all the best.
@@zain4019 Thank you for your answer. It is exactly as you say, it is a process and one that requires a lot of courage and openess to your emotions/feelings. Therefore I found Rupert a bit too matter-of-factish in this video. Thank you for your kind wishes, in return I wish you all the best too!
All you need is JESUS CHRIST, this guy's philosophy won't get you to heaven. Listen to wonderful evangelists like Dr John Ankerberg and Dr. David Reagan and their guests!
thou art that
What if the ego is the devil? What if Jesus of nazareth lived through Christ counsciousness showing the way. Jesus did say ye are gods. Humans can express the divine or the devil in nature. The greatest defeat of a soul is to make one believe the devil does not exist. That's even easier to do if you can convince someone the devil is something other than what it truly is. The ego.