Ahh, so this 火氣 stuff my mum was always on my ass about wasn't just her trying to stop me from eating junk food and no wonder she tried to make me eat Haw flakes all the time too roflmao! So good to have this stuff explained to me in English.... I swear you just described my whole childhood xD canker sores, pimples n all
I never knew that there was more than one type of yeet hay 😳 I have been having symptoms of 虛火 (biting on my lips, mouth and tongue, sweating in my sleep) for these past few days and couldn’t figure out why my body felt weak and heaty even after drinking so much green tea 🍵(which is cooling). So I decided to 補陰 by making some Goji berry tea. It’s amazing how I felt much better almost instantly after I drank the tea and munched on a few of the berries 😳 Thank you so much Carmen for coming back to OTGW and making this video 😊 it has been a rough year for me (since my father passed away from COVID in January) and your videos are one of the few things that often cheer me up in these uncertain times
Wow! I’m glad that it worked for you. I was worried that people would misdiagnose since it’s pretty confusing. I’m sorry about your dad. I cannot imagine how hard that would be. *virtual hug*
@@NTDOffTheGreatWall thank you. It has been hard these past few months; especially since I am all the way here in Taiwan. The last time I spoke to him directly was on January 1 and he was forced onto a ventilator a few days after in order to be transferred to a better hospital back in Indonesia. He passed away unconscious and without any family beside him in the COVID emergency ward. I still cry about him whenever I think about the cruel way he passed. But I have met him a few times in my dreams after he passed and some other family and friends have seen him too. It’s one of the few things that assure me that he’s OK on the other side 😃
"Yeet hay" became an inside joke for me and my sibling when teenagers coz all we loved to eat ( like fried food, bbq...) There was a Warning : ai ya yeet hay. 😂🤣
First time for me hearing about 'Yeet Hay' and it is very interesting. Thank thee for the insight and also thou art good at explaining the chosen topic. Have a wonderful weekend.
Always wondered what yeet hay meant in English. Tried explaining to my caucasian friends and they thought I was just making poop up. See I'm totally sane after all 😅
Tell them that hot foods correlates to acidic foods and cool foods correlates to alkaline/ basic foods. The west talks a lot about basic foods and acidic foods, but for some reason most Asian people can’t seem to correlate the 2
I've got canker sores and swollen tongue after eating fries, poutine, burger, deep fried samosas, tons of chocolate, coffee with a lot of milk and sugar, and nuts for several days last week. I also did not have many vegetables last week. And it's coming to get me now!!
In Vietnamese heat=nóng and cool=mát. I finally realized in my mid twenties what hot and cool foods actually mean. Acidic foods are considered Hot and Basic Foods are considered Cool. We Vietnamese would grow aloe Vera ,,and whenever our bodies feel too “hot “ then we will pick an aloe leaf, peel it and many times just it it raw, and I can assure you that you can actually feel the body cool down once the aloe is digested. I warn you though eating aloes is not for the faint hearted🤣
hot air in general in western term is inflammation too rich protein consumption can cause this while the other you mentioned is lack of sleep cause your liver to build up heat in which you need to sleep for it to cool down sugar can be consider hot air banana is GMO making them much sweeter and often take a toll on your liver Having balance of electrolyte and magnesium often can help you to restore you so called detoxification. Help you to relax your muscles some of the source of herb are very dirty so watch what you consume i wouldn’t touch herbs unless you have a clear understanding of Chinese Classical Astrology cuz that 10 elements related to your organs
@@mightza3781 Incorrect Free radical is not inflammation food caused inflammation are the oxidized and toxic food, free radical is the by product of energy production from mitochondria, they are extremely useful to the cellular life, without free radical, you die in seconds.
My parents never really told me about "yeet hay". But if I eat crackers, chips, soda, or other junk food, I get the 清熱 (cing jit )2:11 feeling. But I've never had the 清熱 feeling after eating oranges, bananas, or some fried food. So maybe my tolerance for yeet hay food is between yours and Kevin's. I would hate an auntie or uncle calling me yeet hay for eating a banana (or 0:09 take yeet hay food from me).
The thing we were always yelled at for eating too much was shrimp chips at Lunar New Year time. It would cause 'fat mung' and then my mom would make us eat citrus to counteract it.
Guess I am lucky. I don't recall my parents ever yelling at me over my diet. Getting an A- on a test was a completely different issue but you already made a video about that.
This is great! Thanks for this! Now, I can send this video to my friends! Yeet hay is hard to explain so this definitely helps, but what about "sup yeet"? 🤔 The "wet heat / damp heat" lol how do we explain that!? 😱 Hehhe
I did not know there was more than 1 type of yeet hay. I always thought it was related to greasy food 😂 either way, years of being yelled at by my parents has now resulted in me yelling at my kids for the same thing.
I remember drinking beer and eating bbq then durian and getting canker sores and pimples, but then my bf would do the same and he was absolutely fine. He’s Galician (Spanish) tho... are our bodies that different?? Anyway, I don’t know if it was a if you believe it you manifest it thing... I’m still on the fence!
Every body is different. I think it depends how you grew up too. Kevin grew up eating tons of fried foods while I had many Cantonese foods. I think that matters. But I don’t think I would feed my kids solely on fried foods to “train” them tho lol.
Grandparents & parents yelling from far and try to chase you or took it away: no don't eat this !!! no don't drink this !!! YEET HAY !!!! or MO FOH !!! Me: when i was young: ??? Grandparents & parents education on health: YEET HAY !!! - Means dehydration MO FOH !!!, - means you are Overhydration
@@NTDOffTheGreatWall lol, it is a lot cheaper to buy them in a large bundle (box or large bag) from Asian supermarket! BBQ oyster is one of the best thing ever especially with lime & Sriracha. You will like it for sure!
@@NTDOffTheGreatWall Of course BBQ them with their shells. Just put the oysters with shells on the BBQ gills; most of the shells will open up automatically once they are cooked. Then open the shell with a knife or screw driver, add some lime & Sriracha, one fresh, juicy, tasty oyster is ready for your ultimate enjoyment! =)
Sangyetang is tricky though since it involves herbs. I think it’s considered more to be “nourishing” than yeet hay. But if you have too much probably be bad for you too. 😂
My mum is half Javanese. She's not Chinese (My dad is though) but she does have a similar hot vs cold food concept. Whenever we eat too much of "hot foods" she tells us "Jangan makan tuuu! Nanti masuk angin kamu!" Which means "Don't eat that! The wind will enter your body!" My favourite "hot food" will most probably be a Chinese-Korean Jajangmyeon 😬😬😬
@@NTDOffTheGreatWall "Hot air" I think. Whenever my fam or I get sick we always blame the wind for ALMOST EVERYTHING. We barf, we have a fever, a small flu, constant coughing etc. We blame it on air or wind lol. "Kamu sakit? Aiyaa, masuk angin nih kamu!" Which means "You're sick? Aiyaa, looks like you got some air/wind inside" And fyi, we don't really count on modern medicine or a doctor's consultation. My mum usually cooks ginger soup infused with chicken or pork broth, apply eucalyptus oil or axe oil or frankincense essence. If all else fails we then consider clinics or hospitals 😮😮
I’m also from Java and my fam is ethnically Chinese. My parents always told me to be careful about foods that give me “panas dalam” or “inner heat” (basically fever). I think it’s a similar concept to Yeet Hay. I remember there are supplements you can drink to cool yourself down if you do get “inner heat”, usually some kind of tonic. I live in a western country now, and it’s interesting how concepts like Yeet Hay is unheard of in western medicine, but I still believe in it because it’s so intuitive. Ultimately if you eat a lot of unhealthy food you’ll become sick. So if you use Yeet hay as a guide to balance your diet you’ll become healthy overall, and I think that’s not a bad thing to add to the typical western nutrition knowledge.
佩服一個知識淵博的年輕(+漂亮),我相信在中國的農村地區也能找到更多像你這樣的女孩! Pèifú yīgè zhīshì yuānbó de niánqīng (+piàoliang), wǒ xiāngxìn zài zhōngguó de nóngcūn dìqū yě néng zhǎodào gèng duō xiàng nǐ zhèyàng de nǚhái!🐼🦚👠👜👒 Instant noodle is food for millionaire or who wants to be the one. It's been proven by an Indian guy who rode to on his bicycle, dressed up in clothes bought on Ebay; eating breakfast and diner with noodle and lunch on with a sandwich home made. He used to work for IT in New York!
What's your favorite Yeet Hay food? 👇
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Crisps....LOTS of it! 😂😂😂
Apparently fresh orange fruit is also yeet hay!? 🤔
Hmmm depends on the citrus?
Depends on the parents... I wasn’t
KFC
"This is just my years of experience being yelled at" Bahahaha, so many of us can relate!
How wisdom gets passed down 😂
knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit. wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad. (Attributed to many people)
Ahh, so this 火氣 stuff my mum was always on my ass about wasn't just her trying to stop me from eating junk food and no wonder she tried to make me eat Haw flakes all the time too roflmao! So good to have this stuff explained to me in English.... I swear you just described my whole childhood xD canker sores, pimples n all
Hahaha she’s probably also trying to stop you from eating junk food. It is hard to find this type of info in English. Please share the video!
Another good video; and I'm happy you are uploading videos when you can for us "OTGW" fans who been here since day one.
Happy you appreciate my efforts! ☺️
Thanks for this informative video and including cantonese again!!!
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Gotta say, your thumbnails are always a smash hit Carmen :D
Thanks for noticing! Thumbnails are so hard to articulate!
Thanks for sharing the insights. My Chinese-American wife is always teaching me. This channel helps me learn more.
😊
I never knew that there was more than one type of yeet hay 😳 I have been having symptoms of 虛火 (biting on my lips, mouth and tongue, sweating in my sleep) for these past few days and couldn’t figure out why my body felt weak and heaty even after drinking so much green tea 🍵(which is cooling). So I decided to 補陰 by making some Goji berry tea. It’s amazing how I felt much better almost instantly after I drank the tea and munched on a few of the berries 😳
Thank you so much Carmen for coming back to OTGW and making this video 😊 it has been a rough year for me (since my father passed away from COVID in January) and your videos are one of the few things that often cheer me up in these uncertain times
Wow! I’m glad that it worked for you. I was worried that people would misdiagnose since it’s pretty confusing.
I’m sorry about your dad. I cannot imagine how hard that would be. *virtual hug*
@@NTDOffTheGreatWall thank you. It has been hard these past few months; especially since I am all the way here in Taiwan. The last time I spoke to him directly was on January 1 and he was forced onto a ventilator a few days after in order to be transferred to a better hospital back in Indonesia.
He passed away unconscious and without any family beside him in the COVID emergency ward. I still cry about him whenever I think about the cruel way he passed. But I have met him a few times in my dreams after he passed and some other family and friends have seen him too. It’s one of the few things that assure me that he’s OK on the other side 😃
Taking the bag of chips out of the cupboard and having a parent say "Don't eat, yeet hay!" is soooooo true!
definitley miss these educational videos!! thank you Carmen!
"Yeet hay" became an inside joke for me and my sibling when teenagers coz all we loved to eat ( like fried food, bbq...) There was a Warning : ai ya yeet hay. 😂🤣
That’s rare in my household.Parents didn’t really give us much yeet hay foods.
Thank you for making this! just what I am looking for to help explain this concept :D
Thanks for all your videos.
First time for me hearing about 'Yeet Hay' and it is very interesting. Thank thee for the insight and also thou art good at explaining the chosen topic. Have a wonderful weekend.
#薯條🍟還是 #薯餅 或許 #薯片 加上 #披薩🍕 #鍋貼 #春卷 #鹹水角
特別 #即食麵 #炸兩 #炸餛飩 #炸雞 #炒飯 #炒麵 #乾炒牛河 #辣椒醬。 全部 #熱氣 #上火。
Basically the magic term that our parents/grandparents use to blame anything wrong we do in life LMAO
Always wondered what yeet hay meant in English. Tried explaining to my caucasian friends and they thought I was just making poop up. See I'm totally sane after all 😅
Send them the video 😆
@@NTDOffTheGreatWall consider it done, I would rather have yourself explain it then my nonsensical attempt of a explanation.
Tell them that hot foods correlates to acidic foods and cool foods correlates to alkaline/ basic foods. The west talks a lot about basic foods and acidic foods, but for some reason most Asian people can’t seem to correlate the 2
I've got canker sores and swollen tongue after eating fries, poutine, burger, deep fried samosas, tons of chocolate, coffee with a lot of milk and sugar, and nuts for several days last week. I also did not have many vegetables last week. And it's coming to get me now!!
I am so happy seeing this video! 💕💕💕💕
Parent tells me I have yeet hay? I reply, "I'm doing asbestos I can!"
0:06 That sounds like Carmen's Dad.
Fried up breakfast every morning.😋
Instant noodles and spam!
@@NTDOffTheGreatWall with 2 over easy egg on top
More than ever, we need more videos like this spreading Asian love!
Help us spread it!
In Vietnamese heat=nóng and cool=mát.
I finally realized in my mid twenties what hot and cool foods actually mean.
Acidic foods are considered Hot and Basic Foods are considered Cool.
We Vietnamese would grow aloe Vera ,,and whenever our bodies feel too “hot “ then we will pick an aloe leaf, peel it and many times just it it raw, and I can assure you that you can actually feel the body cool down once the aloe is digested. I warn you though eating aloes is not for the faint hearted🤣
First Person! :D
My grandma says that I'm yeet hay all the time!
hahaha... the word we dread
I'm learning yay
hot air in general in western term is inflammation
too rich protein consumption can cause this
while the other you mentioned is lack of sleep cause your liver to build up heat in which you need to sleep for it to cool down
sugar can be consider hot air
banana is GMO making them much sweeter and often take a toll on your liver
Having balance of electrolyte and magnesium often can help you to restore you so called detoxification.
Help you to relax your muscles
some of the source of herb are very dirty so watch what you consume
i wouldn’t touch herbs unless you have a clear understanding of Chinese Classical Astrology cuz that 10 elements related to your organs
Hot foods = Free radicals ---> Inflammation, Cool Foods = Anti-oxidants
@@mightza3781 Incorrect
Free radical is not inflammation
food caused inflammation are the oxidized and toxic food, free radical is the by product of energy production from mitochondria, they are extremely useful to the cellular life, without free radical, you die in seconds.
My parents never really told me about "yeet hay". But if I eat crackers, chips, soda, or other junk food, I get the 清熱 (cing jit )2:11 feeling. But I've never had the 清熱 feeling after eating oranges, bananas, or some fried food. So maybe my tolerance for yeet hay food is between yours and Kevin's.
I would hate an auntie or uncle calling me yeet hay for eating a banana (or 0:09 take yeet hay food from me).
When the hot cream cheese pours out.
Awesome and informative video!!
Thanks much!
BBQ and watermelon...mm mmm🙂
balance!
Sounds completely legit!
You’re completely welcome 😬
You make my chinese born wife laughing so much when I try to repeat your chinese teachings on her, thanks lol
I always related yeet hay with getting fever blisters from eating fried food
is cilantro, coconut water, and spearmint tea good for cooling yeet hay?
My favourite food that is definitely #熱氣 is #Lays #BBQPotatoChips.
🤣I remember I was ‘yeet hay’ from eating McDonald hash browns I grew a full mouthful of ulcers!
Tsk tsk tsk!! Eat at your own risk!
The thing we were always yelled at for eating too much was shrimp chips at Lunar New Year time. It would cause 'fat mung' and then my mom would make us eat citrus to counteract it.
OMG!! I totally forgot about shrimp crackers. I LOOOOOOVE shrimp crackers. Zero self control when it comes to that.
Guess I am lucky. I don't recall my parents ever yelling at me over my diet. Getting an A- on a test was a completely different issue but you already made a video about that.
This is great! Thanks for this! Now, I can send this video to my friends! Yeet hay is hard to explain so this definitely helps, but what about "sup yeet"? 🤔 The "wet heat / damp heat" lol how do we explain that!? 😱 Hehhe
Hahaha I was gonna include that in this video but it deserves its very own explanation ...
@@NTDOffTheGreatWall Nice, looking forward to it!!
Also Same with #甜酸豬扒
I heard this all the time growing up.
Crack cocaine?!.."yeet hay ahh" " mo cup gum dor ah" - my mom🤨🤨
Same for me, I get 'heaty' or 'yeet hay' very easily. I like spicy food but can't having them too often.
Why are all yeet hay foods so good 😭
I love Taiwanese popcorn chicken. Definitely yeet hay 😢
I did not know there was more than 1 type of yeet hay. I always thought it was related to greasy food 😂 either way, years of being yelled at by my parents has now resulted in me yelling at my kids for the same thing.
Theres other stuff related to it too but so complicated too explain.
For cooling vegetables..you've forgotten the BROCOLLI
Hmmmm, I eat spicy deep fried food, and drink buckets of coffee. But I also have insomnia, and eat bananas. So looks like I am in perfect balance!
Hahahaha insomnia doesn’t sound very balanced. Take it easy my friend 😊
Lol, I always thought that bananas acted as a natural laxative and treatment for an upset stomach.
Maybe it is for you. But maybe not for others ;) It helps me when I have a sore throat.
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I remember drinking beer and eating bbq then durian and getting canker sores and pimples, but then my bf would do the same and he was absolutely fine. He’s Galician (Spanish) tho... are our bodies that different?? Anyway, I don’t know if it was a if you believe it you manifest it thing... I’m still on the fence!
Every body is different. I think it depends how you grew up too. Kevin grew up eating tons of fried foods while I had many Cantonese foods. I think that matters. But I don’t think I would feed my kids solely on fried foods to “train” them tho lol.
Also take into account consistency of the diet. Prolonged consumption of certain foods, say for a week, can cause yeet hay.
good video
Grandparents & parents yelling from far and try to chase you or took it away:
no don't eat this !!!
no don't drink this !!!
YEET HAY !!!!
or
MO FOH !!!
Me: when i was young: ???
Grandparents & parents education on health:
YEET HAY !!! - Means dehydration
MO FOH !!!, - means you are Overhydration
oh wow this was really interesting i never really understood the concept because it’s like nonexistent in the western world
Very different ways of thinking. Thanks for watching!
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My favor "Hot Air" food is probably any BBQ oyster; it is just so dang good I can finish a dozen of it in minutes.
Oysters?! Damn you fancy.
@@NTDOffTheGreatWall lol, it is a lot cheaper to buy them in a large bundle (box or large bag) from Asian supermarket! BBQ oyster is one of the best thing ever especially with lime & Sriracha. You will like it for sure!
Shell or no shell?
@@NTDOffTheGreatWall Of course BBQ them with their shells. Just put the oysters with shells on the BBQ gills; most of the shells will open up automatically once they are cooked. Then open the shell with a knife or screw driver, add some lime & Sriracha, one fresh, juicy, tasty oyster is ready for your ultimate enjoyment! =)
YT removed my tutorial video link I just posted. Just search "bbq oysters whole shell" you will find some YT video on how to do it.
Ooo I've been having trouble sleeping…
More excuse to eat junk food, then! :D
Lol! I’m not sure if that helps!
Lol is that u eating that springroll? Sounded like u
Lol. You can’t tell? That section is all my food photos
@@NTDOffTheGreatWall I mean the clip on 1:45. But yea u look different and prettier. Guess it’s u without the makeup ☺️
Yes I know which clip you’re talking about. The food shots beforehand and that clip were all mine. Lol... that big of a difference huh? 🤔
@@NTDOffTheGreatWall yep lol. Didn’t recognize u for a sec. was confused, sounded like u but looked different.
You also need to talk about "liang"...cool. The other imbalance
Future video idea 💭💭💭
Alright!!!!
my parents tell me that drinking coffee is yee hay but i drink it anyways
Hmm I didn’t know that one. 🧐
Never heard of that
Alot of chinese drink coffee
I assume this is also how ancient Chinese scientist-philosophers (alchemists) who worked as doctors created medicinal treatments for people too.
Hahaha... this is just very surface. Chinese medicine is quite profound. But for us regular folks just try to maintain a good balance. 😉
@@NTDOffTheGreatWall Oh lol
Are pickles cold? I see Korean people eat pickles with pizza...
Depends on the type? Koreans have so many pickles 😜
That sounds ridiculously similar to ancient greek/medeaval understanding of the body and nutrition.
Everything is yeet hai mum used to say 😂😂😂😂
For real
My mum always used to say this to me
Don’t eat so much fried chicken you will yeet hay easily 😆
Oosh, gotta brush up on my cantonese
Actually... it is simple. Things that cause inflammation is heaty. Anti-oxidising food is cooling.
I don’t feel any yeet hay after eating many many deep fried food.😎
Shang huo pain tho-
Totally...
Yeet Hay favourite food?
Dunno if kimchi-jjigae, samgyetang or samgyeopsal... a fair draw?
Sangyetang is tricky though since it involves herbs. I think it’s considered more to be “nourishing” than yeet hay. But if you have too much probably be bad for you too. 😂
Ngat hei in our dialect means sore in the mouth.
👍👍👍👍💜💜💜💜
"Is tomato a fruit"... don't forget the cucumber! i.stack.imgur.com/bcJUV.png
🌬💨🔥
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Chinese wife always talks about this but I have fun not obeying or listening. Moves me higher on the Chinese Wife’s Black List😂🤫
Lol somehow these things don’t affect certain people as much. Maybe it’s the way people are brought up.
Yeeeeeeeee
What about beer? Western leung cha!
To map it to western medicine, foods that are heaty are likely to cause infection or inflammation.
Makes sense
Y E E T
I can eat haw flakes all day 😋
i was taught that tomato and watermelon belongs to vegetable group
Watermelon for sure! But you would eat tomatoes with veggies right? 🤔
Boo....so many things I can't eat. Potato chips = yeet hay. You did say in "moderation" though. Right? Yay!
Balance it out with some cool foods?
@@NTDOffTheGreatWall Ice cream? Cool. Welcome back!
My mum is half Javanese. She's not Chinese (My dad is though) but she does have a similar hot vs cold food concept. Whenever we eat too much of "hot foods" she tells us
"Jangan makan tuuu! Nanti masuk angin kamu!"
Which means
"Don't eat that! The wind will enter your body!"
My favourite "hot food" will most probably be a Chinese-Korean Jajangmyeon 😬😬😬
The wind... interesting. Is it the same concept of wind if you don’t blow dry your hair or cover up belly and it will go in? Or like “hot air”?
@@NTDOffTheGreatWall "Hot air" I think. Whenever my fam or I get sick we always blame the wind for ALMOST EVERYTHING. We barf, we have a fever, a small flu, constant coughing etc. We blame it on air or wind lol.
"Kamu sakit? Aiyaa, masuk angin nih kamu!"
Which means
"You're sick? Aiyaa, looks like you got some air/wind inside"
And fyi, we don't really count on modern medicine or a doctor's consultation. My mum usually cooks ginger soup infused with chicken or pork broth, apply eucalyptus oil or axe oil or frankincense essence. If all else fails we then consider clinics or hospitals 😮😮
I’m also from Java and my fam is ethnically Chinese. My parents always told me to be careful about foods that give me “panas dalam” or “inner heat” (basically fever). I think it’s a similar concept to Yeet Hay. I remember there are supplements you can drink to cool yourself down if you do get “inner heat”, usually some kind of tonic. I live in a western country now, and it’s interesting how concepts like Yeet Hay is unheard of in western medicine, but I still believe in it because it’s so intuitive. Ultimately if you eat a lot of unhealthy food you’ll become sick. So if you use Yeet hay as a guide to balance your diet you’ll become healthy overall, and I think that’s not a bad thing to add to the typical western nutrition knowledge.
But haw flakes have artificial red dye in it and that's not healthy either :/
Just drink some chinese clear soup, that will eliminate Yeet Hay.
Ai Ah .... not a doctor ... disapointment ... :)
I hate ginger. No wonder it’s on many dishes my mum cooks
All food is the west are bad for you. Except cantonese food. Standing in the summer sun in yeet hay. -_-' How come no A/C parents so cheap LA
ahhh, just another youtuber who claims to be an asian 'dissapointment'.
Nice pseudoscience
佩服一個知識淵博的年輕(+漂亮),我相信在中國的農村地區也能找到更多像你這樣的女孩!
Pèifú yīgè zhīshì yuānbó de niánqīng (+piàoliang), wǒ xiāngxìn zài zhōngguó de nóngcūn dìqū yě néng zhǎodào gèng duō xiàng nǐ zhèyàng de nǚhái!🐼🦚👠👜👒 Instant noodle is food for millionaire or who wants to be the one. It's been proven by an Indian guy who rode to on his bicycle, dressed up in clothes bought on Ebay; eating breakfast and diner with noodle and lunch on with a sandwich home made. He used to work for IT in New York!