this is a great topic. theres also mideastern dragons which are also different. those sumerian dragons seem to be a middle ground between eastern and western dragons
I love videos about mythical creatures. It's so hard to find videos about Chinese ones in English. So I really enjoyed this alot. So glad your channel is back again:)
Archaeologists now reckon the recurring Western story of a hero slaying a dragon or similar creature goes back as much as six or seven thousand years to the Proto-Indo-Europeans, because versions of it show up in so many descendant myths (like the Hydra in Greek mythology or the Sigurd/Siegfried story in Germanic mythology) suggesting they are all variations of the same original tale.
The reason they are similar is because early humans lived on one single whole continent, spoke the one single language, shared the same history, built similar structures, and had similar beliefs, but after their single language was change to many and the land was separated into separate continents and island, over time their ideas began change from each other.
Centaurs have actually sorta made their way into evolutionary biology too. Centaurism is defined as the phenomenon in which a species gives up a pair of legs and starts using them not for locomotion but for other purposes, such as manipulating the environment. Humans are a classic case of centaurism, having evolved to walk on two legs while our hands are used to manipulate the environment. Praying mantises too.
ok I'm an Egyptian and I won't say that I know everything about ancient Egypt but so far I didn't hear of Phoenix in our history but if you are sure about it I'll trust your knowledge
I noticed that the western dragon is just not the same animal as the Chinese “long”. It seems back in the day it was just convenient for the western observer to draw the comparison between them (and call it a “Dragon”) because they both are mythical and both have serpentine like appearance. Awesome video 👍
When I was a child, I noticed that the Western dragons were scary and breathing out fire. But the eastern dragons were friendlier. Looking forward to the video…
the bible or ibrahamic religions in general tend to vilify pagen or anceint religions , they villify anceint egyptians and anceint egypt civilization and religions also making mosa as hero who split sea then drowned the Pharoah , or when god drown whole earth noah arc but saved people who worshiped him , ibrahamic faiths always did that twisting the truth and then inserting their own narrative as fact
We may have forgotten about interconnected world in distant past.There was global culture all across the world.But after great cataclysm,all human become separated and isolated.They form distinct cultures but with similarities.
I just recently found your channel (Chinese eating etiquette), and watched your discussion of Dim Sum (Here in America "shrimp toast" is a big favorite but I love Siu Mai and cabbage or pork bao) and i am surprised to see that some of the videos are 7 or 8 years old. I didn't notice a difference now that you are "back" but you still have immaculate English enunciation and slip very naturally in to Cantonese or Mandarin. (I notice that you say "mandarIN" instead of "MANdarin" - do we say it wrong over here?) Liked and subscribed and enjoying the videos. Oh, and it is charming when the Australian accent just peeks out a bit in your English. Love it!
Even though Chinese dragons are supposed to be benign, I was scared of them at the New Year parades. I think it was the loud music that scared me most hahaha.
Definitely love dragons. I really love to the difference between the Chinese Dragons, and the Western Dragons. My favorite kind of dragons are Chinese Dragons, in my opinion.
the Sinetic Phoenix is the national symbol of CHU(楚), a Ancient Chinese Kingdom founded by a Chinese tribe inappropriately exprelled by the Zhou dynasty to the Yngzhe River regions, I believe the symbol was introduced to Sinitic culture after Chin Dynasty which CHU was conquered and thus its cultural asset encouperated into Imperial China
The Chu state was founded by the royal clans from the Zhou dynasty. Let me tell you that the Zhou dynasty have many royal clan members. Each clan was given a land by the Zhou king which composed of the states who started the warring states
You need to know first the origin of each Chinese state in order for you to know the details. Chinese people believe of the mandate of heaven which was passed down to all Chinese since the yellow emperor.
Can you do a video on the 4 evils hundun and the others? I've tried looking into them and I keep running into the same thing each of them have a cardinal directions associated with them but I cont find anything that tells me which direction goes with what creature.
Thanks for posting very interesting i love it just to let you know that i am a Chinese Dragon myself even though i am not born in the Year of the Dragon but i am noble at heart and i am a chinese celestial dragon in heart and when i was young i used to be called Ao Bing the third Prince son of Ao Guang The East Sea Dragon King who fought Nezha incase you forgot
The Chinese dragon looks reasonably like a dinosaur, the "Spinosaurus Aegyptiacus" specifically. And, I think, if we take into account the variants of legends, all over the world, about scales, crest, feathers, bat wing, aquatic habits, then the comparison with the aforementioned dinosaur is almost complete. Link, dino: th-cam.com/video/MxT9dd2nu7c/w-d-xo.html
That's my year of the dragon I get along with Tigers and you are right we all have Dragon bodies. We all have personalities you know I'm south Korean but I passed the regular sign of the Dragon so then I fell asleep there is an new year the Dragon I went even higher I made that year I enjoyed my year.. I have a causing that is year the dragon but he's in his old sign be I only have the ultimate year the Dragon.
These dragons have nothing in common except the denomination! A bit like the original pinguin which once lived in the Northern hemisphere and present bird in the southern hémisphère, we now call pinguin. Just because they look alike !
One thing I never understood about Western dragons was their love for treasure. Hoarding it and protecting it from thieves. Do Chinese dragons care about wealth?
The dragon represents more auspiciousness, and the mythical beast related to wealth is called (貔貅/pi xiu), which will only eat but will not spit it out, nor will it excrete it.
So Chinese dragon are not the Western Dragons. They are called Nagas and they are snake like creatures that rule over water. The Buddhist classify about 16 categories of Nagas. The Royal Nagas have a wishfulling pearl or gems that grants wishes depending on the level of power of the Royal Nagas. Many are consider wealthy, the Indians have many temple dedicated to them. Some in Buddhist tradition some monks and Lamas do Naga Pujas for rain and restoring wells that have gone dry. The forbidden City has entire walls called Dragon wall with special vases where Nagas can live.
It is what we call a 'Standard Western Dragon', which is the most common Dragon amongst Europe. I do agree with you that Western cultures are not a monolith, however, even in the myths that western dragons are wise, sage beings, they are not worshiped nor praised as divine beings as they are in Chinese culture and mythology.
Here is a secret, as a descendent of Zhou Dynasty (姬周) royalty, we have this tradition about how the dragon made it into Sinitic culture as a syombol of anyhitng...... according to my family tradition, the whole reason that Chinese have the concept of dragon, was becase our direct ancestors the Ji Clan whom ruled China then conquered a barbarian tribe who use dragon totem symbol and the Zhou Empror then thought that totem looks cool, so he decided to just download it into our cultue, nothing fansy lol and us Ji's heirs traditionally don't rever Ah-bah Hok-Hii(伏羲) and Ah-Mu Nu-Ue(女媧) to be mythological entites of have man have dragon serpant or whatever, but we revered them as the first among our forefathers of the Sinitic civiliation whose's existance is a skin wearing man and woman with great wisdom and virtue to initiate our civilization, once again nothign fansy but rven do does not deminish their greatness I don't Ah-bah Hok-Hii and Ah-mu Nu-Ue is less great without the mystical powers that the later constructed mythological lore attribute to them, by establish the concept of commited sexual relationship and associated meaningful courtasy to it as the foundation of the SInitic civilization is aready great enough
You should also look at latin american dragons like Quetzalcoat from Aztec mythology. It looks closer to asian dragon with its serpent like body
Theyre also usually more good aligned like Eastern dragons
it is also tied with the element of water
mesoamerican*
Or the rainbow serpent of Australia
It's Mesoamerican and Quetzalcoatl isn't a dragon to Nahuas.
this is a great topic.
theres also mideastern dragons which are also different.
those sumerian dragons seem to be a middle ground between eastern and western dragons
It’s so interesting how all different cultures have their own dragons
I love videos about mythical creatures. It's so hard to find videos about Chinese ones in English. So I really enjoyed this alot. So glad your channel is back again:)
Archaeologists now reckon the recurring Western story of a hero slaying a dragon or similar creature goes back as much as six or seven thousand years to the Proto-Indo-Europeans, because versions of it show up in so many descendant myths (like the Hydra in Greek mythology or the Sigurd/Siegfried story in Germanic mythology) suggesting they are all variations of the same original tale.
The reason they are similar is because early humans lived on one single whole continent, spoke the one single language, shared the same history, built similar structures, and had similar beliefs, but after their single language was change to many and the land was separated into separate continents and island, over time their ideas began change from each other.
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Charizard is that one Pokémon that everyone wonders why it’s not dragon type
So they made one of its Mega-Evolutions a dragon type.
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Centaurs have actually sorta made their way into evolutionary biology too. Centaurism is defined as the phenomenon in which a species gives up a pair of legs and starts using them not for locomotion but for other purposes, such as manipulating the environment. Humans are a classic case of centaurism, having evolved to walk on two legs while our hands are used to manipulate the environment. Praying mantises too.
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ok I'm an Egyptian and I won't say that I know everything about ancient Egypt but so far I didn't hear of Phoenix in our history but if you are sure about it I'll trust your knowledge
I noticed that the western dragon is just not the same animal as the Chinese “long”. It seems back in the day it was just convenient for the western observer to draw the comparison between them (and call it a “Dragon”) because they both are mythical and both have serpentine like appearance. Awesome video 👍
I think western dragon got inspired by the dinosaur bone that they found back then. It looks so much like a dinosaur.
When I was a child, I noticed that the Western dragons were scary and breathing out fire. But the eastern dragons were friendlier.
Looking forward to the video…
the bible or ibrahamic religions in general tend to vilify pagen or anceint religions , they villify anceint egyptians and anceint egypt civilization and religions also making mosa as hero who split sea then drowned the Pharoah , or when god drown whole earth noah arc but saved people who worshiped him , ibrahamic faiths always did that twisting the truth and then inserting their own narrative as fact
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Loved the comparison between the different mythologies! I wonder if there are Chinese lure has any creatures similar to vampires or werewolves?
always preferred chinese dragons over western dragons 😆😆😆
We may have forgotten about interconnected world in distant past.There was global culture all across the world.But after great cataclysm,all human become separated and isolated.They form distinct cultures but with similarities.
Finally... I've been waiting so long for a return... 🙌
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I just recently found your channel (Chinese eating etiquette), and watched your discussion of Dim Sum (Here in America "shrimp toast" is a big favorite but I love Siu Mai and cabbage or pork bao) and i am surprised to see that some of the videos are 7 or 8 years old. I didn't notice a difference now that you are "back" but you still have immaculate English enunciation and slip very naturally in to Cantonese or Mandarin. (I notice that you say "mandarIN" instead of "MANdarin" - do we say it wrong over here?) Liked and subscribed and enjoying the videos. Oh, and it is charming when the Australian accent just peeks out a bit in your English. Love it!
If Asian/Chinese Dragons can actually breathe fire from the sun, the underworld or the volcano.
i am getting a tattoo of the chinese dragon on my wrist (i am not chinese) this is video helped me gather research on it thank you so much
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Even though Chinese dragons are supposed to be benign, I was scared of them at the New Year parades. I think it was the loud music that scared me most hahaha.
Gyarados too
Awesome video! I've pondered the idea of these creatures roaming the Earth.
tldr: Charizard vs Gyarados
Please reference journey to the west and chinese paladin about dragons controlling rain, etc. :)
quirion's noble phantasm made it's way to this video :D
🙏🐉🙏 Thanks for sharing really interesting 🙏
I like dragons
Definitely love dragons. I really love to the difference between the Chinese Dragons, and the Western Dragons. My favorite kind of dragons are Chinese Dragons, in my opinion.
This was fun 👍👍👍
Did you see The legend of the Ten Rings? There’s lots of Eastern Creatures there like Hundun, Qi Rin, and a Dragon.
I’ve always wondered why 龍 is translated to dragon as they are so different
can u plz do lion dance i know everything about lion dance but i want u to talk about it
The phoenix that rises from the ashes is actually from Ancient Arab mythology!
I prefer Chinese Dragon rather than Phoenix
Wait, I'm pretty sure the Phoenix's were from Greece.
@@grappling.enthusiast exactly what im thinking
@@Reptilesaurs Yeah, besides Dragons were always cooler to me anyway.
the Sinetic Phoenix is the national symbol of CHU(楚), a Ancient Chinese Kingdom founded by a Chinese tribe inappropriately exprelled by the Zhou dynasty to the Yngzhe River regions, I believe the symbol was introduced to Sinitic culture after Chin Dynasty which CHU was conquered and thus its cultural asset encouperated into Imperial China
The Chu state was founded by the royal clans from the Zhou dynasty. Let me tell you that the Zhou dynasty have many royal clan members. Each clan was given a land by the Zhou king which composed of the states who started the warring states
You need to know first the origin of each Chinese state in order for you to know the details. Chinese people believe of the mandate of heaven which was passed down to all Chinese since the yellow emperor.
i love how she drops that third tone on "how" like nothing to see here move on
chiyou? he's in the marvel comic "swordsman" about a chinese hero in china. paired great with aero, a female hero in taiwan
Very good video, but I would have loved it if you had mentioned the Qilin as well.
chinese dragons are my favourite type of dragons and futs-long is my favourite one because of not just his fire powers butlava powers to🐲🐉🌋🔥☄
Which one is the Chinese dragon and I’m from china
The long one with no wings
Can you do a video on the 4 evils hundun and the others? I've tried looking into them and I keep running into the same thing each of them have a cardinal directions associated with them but I cont find anything that tells me which direction goes with what creature.
Beautiful necklace!
Let’s talk about the tangki
What about Pegasus?
Thanks for posting very interesting i love it just to let you know that i am a Chinese Dragon myself even though i am not born in the Year of the Dragon but i am noble at heart and i am a chinese celestial dragon in heart and when i was young i used to be called Ao Bing the third Prince son of Ao Guang The East Sea Dragon King who fought Nezha incase you forgot
Super interesting!
the dragon/serpent in the west is the phoenicians/seapeoples
I always thought that maybe dinasors are dragons , maybe dragons are not mythical but really did exist
The Chinese dragon looks reasonably like a dinosaur, the "Spinosaurus Aegyptiacus" specifically. And, I think, if we take into account the variants of legends, all over the world, about scales, crest, feathers, bat wing, aquatic habits, then the comparison with the aforementioned dinosaur is almost complete. Link, dino: th-cam.com/video/MxT9dd2nu7c/w-d-xo.html
I Love Dragon Chinese Because I'm Chinese Descendant too!!! 😆😆😆
Which one do you feel is the most dangerous? 😅
Where's South East Asian dragons? For example the Philippines Bakunawa and Minokawa.
Ch in Chiron is pronounced as k or q sound
PRChinese: "We love the Red Dragon."
Taiwanese: "Better dead then Red."
Lol imagine destroying history with your brainwashed ideology 😂
I thought the dragon supposed to be yellow? That is history.
Oh right, communism is red lol
Im a dragon
You welcome
Dragons can spit fire in the Far East too. Some do some dont
good video
The multi-armed fishman could be the first avatar of Vishnu
That's my year of the dragon
I get along with Tigers and you are right we all have Dragon bodies. We all have personalities you know I'm south Korean but I passed the regular sign of the Dragon so then I fell asleep there is an new year the Dragon I went even higher I made that year I enjoyed my year.. I have a causing that is year the dragon but he's in his old sign be I only have the ultimate year the Dragon.
I read too much Chinese novels so knew most of them.
lol same
Im head dragon Cain
Chinese dragons: divine and good
European dragons: "I am fire, I am death!"
Dragon here👋👋👋👋👋
🐉🐉🐉🐉🐉
Sweet girl we all worship those dragons.... You should watch mr. Mythos yhwh is a dragon. Have a wonderful day
These dragons have nothing in common except the denomination! A bit like the original pinguin which once lived in the Northern hemisphere and present bird in the southern hémisphère, we now call pinguin. Just because they look alike !
i’m Chinese, & i’m a Dragon, & ofc i brag about it ;)
Chinese dragon 🐉 is also known as loong
One thing I never understood about Western dragons was their love for treasure. Hoarding it and protecting it from thieves. Do Chinese dragons care about wealth?
The dragon represents more auspiciousness, and the mythical beast related to wealth is called (貔貅/pi xiu), which will only eat but will not spit it out, nor will it excrete it.
I am confused, I thought it was 5 auspicious beasts...?
Huh
So Chinese dragon are not the Western Dragons. They are called Nagas and they are snake like creatures that rule over water. The Buddhist classify about 16 categories of Nagas. The Royal Nagas have a wishfulling pearl or gems that grants wishes depending on the level of power of the Royal Nagas. Many are consider wealthy, the Indians have many temple dedicated to them. Some in Buddhist tradition some monks and Lamas do Naga Pujas for rain and restoring wells that have gone dry. The forbidden City has entire walls called Dragon wall with special vases where Nagas can live.
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Chinese dragons better
We are descendants of the dragon no according to our Chinese origin legend…
Actually, many western depictions show dragons as being sage, calm beings. Western cultures are not a monolith.. .
It is what we call a 'Standard Western Dragon', which is the most common Dragon amongst Europe.
I do agree with you that Western cultures are not a monolith, however, even in the myths that western dragons are wise, sage beings, they are not worshiped nor praised as divine beings as they are in Chinese culture and mythology.
Hi
Even bible tells us about dragons.
I'm Chinese Head Dragon West coast America Ying dynasty west coast America Ying Chinese president King of my people
Here is a secret, as a descendent of Zhou Dynasty (姬周) royalty, we have this tradition about how the dragon made it into Sinitic culture as a syombol of anyhitng...... according to my family tradition, the whole reason that Chinese have the concept of dragon, was becase our direct ancestors the Ji Clan whom ruled China then conquered a barbarian tribe who use dragon totem symbol and the Zhou Empror then thought that totem looks cool, so he decided to just download it into our cultue, nothing fansy lol
and us Ji's heirs traditionally don't rever Ah-bah Hok-Hii(伏羲) and Ah-Mu Nu-Ue(女媧) to be mythological entites of have man have dragon serpant or whatever, but we revered them as the first among our forefathers of the Sinitic civiliation whose's existance is a skin wearing man and woman with great wisdom and virtue to initiate our civilization, once again nothign fansy but rven do does not deminish their greatness
I don't Ah-bah Hok-Hii and Ah-mu Nu-Ue is less great without the mystical powers that the later constructed mythological lore attribute to them, by establish the concept of commited sexual relationship and associated meaningful courtasy to it as the foundation of the SInitic civilization is aready great enough
Do you know Thai I believe I am a you tangki
Not the same without mike
Western Dragons are the best. You can ride them into the skies and into battle.
Im a dragon in Chinese zodiac praise me
Chinese dragons are beautiful and powerful ,western dragons look so scary
In short, dragon is not Chinese loong, vice versa. Thank you for demystifying!
Wish dragon Chinese dragon
poster dragon Pokemon dragon
Chinese Long is different from western dragon. The translation is not proper.
The God of War, Chiyou is our beloved King and Great Grandfather! #Hmong
The eastern dragons are more impressive
Is this an Australian, Chinese accent?!