I have my doubts that even current Manga Goku scales comparatively to Anime Goku, especially when you consider the Anime narrative heavily pushes the notion of Goku and Jiren rivaling the Hakaishin to some degree, where as the Manga portrays even Goku, Vegeta, Gohan, and Broly as seemingly no where near Beerus' level.
It’s crazy how a single line or a concept “ absorbed into base” can absolutely make power scaling go bonkers by adding such a crazy multiplier into the first number in the equation without transformation
the ssg absorbed to base is clearly false and explained that it was just remnants of ssg. Base goku is not greater than ssg goku, if ssg was truly absorbed by goku then his ki in base wouldn't be detectable by any of the z fighters. Another point is that if he truly absorbed ssg in his base then it shouldn't have been possible for him to be injured by a bullet lol. i agree with the black arc tho, ssbk 20 does look stronger than mastered ssb but the problem is that mastered ssb is more focused on fighting at full efficiency without sacrificing too much. It's literally a comparison between perfected ssj vs ssj kaioken. Merged zamasu in anime is easily stronger than the manga version which is fine but i actually prefer the narative plot that black was actually not that strong because him stealing that body shouldn't have given him equal power/fighting experience as goku and vegeta whom trained their whole life to be strong. Vegito's power portrayal in the manga also makes a lot more sense than the anime, base vegito seemingly evaporating half of zamasu with a beam because vegito is a multiplication of their strength not just additive but immediately defusing after going ssb and charging all his power in kamehameha because it was too strong. a lot of the anime filler arc can't really be used as proof, like we literally have roshi throwing hands with goku lmao. if we are talking about who is stronger in their current versions (w/o mui) then manga easily clears because he can use omen with all his forms.
Yes anime goku is strong bec he absorbed the god form and in his base he can earse the multiverse and he can multiply that base with all of his form multiplier but the problem is we dont know ssj god and blues multiplier it can be 500 to thousands and in anime he reached mui that multiplier is also not known 😂
Nah, Manga Goku even with ToP still negs the anime. 1. Goku did absorb the God form in the Manga version, while it’s true we don’t see it, it’s heavily implied the Manga at the time was only there to promote the Movie Version of Battle of Gods, an editors note even said the manga won’t show everything and for context, watch the movie where Goku does absorb God, meaning he did in the manga too. 2. assuming Hit in the manga isn’t equal to his anime counterpart is pretty disingenuous with nothing contradicting it, if anything it just upscales Manga Goku. 3. As for the Goku Black Arc, The Anime only had one massive amp and a small one while the manga has 2 large amps. Once one Vegeta went from being stalemated by SSJ Goku Black in SSJB to only needed God-Blue switch to destroy Goku Black in Rosé, the other when Goku got a fusion level amp from perfecting Blue. “Vegito >>>> Zamasu in the manga” nope, Fussd Zamasu wasn’t corrupting in the manga until he fought Perfected SSJB Goku meaning he did infact get a fusion level amp. 4. As for the Tournament of Power, Jiren was overpowering Goku in the anime too and the latter had a rage boost that kinda unstablized UI and almost destroyed Goku’s Body. Remember, Manga UI Goku lasted longer than his anime counterpart against Jiren, Manga Goku lost because Jiren adapted while it’s implied Anime Goku lost to either the rage amp destabilizing UI because it’s ineffective, or because of timing but since he lasted shorter than his Manga counterpart, I think it’s the former. So before even the Moro Arc, Manga Goku negs his Anime Counterpart, cope.
1 the manga you refering is for support the movie mateiral to go watch. Which the movie is no longer canon or official as the anime comes out and redo everything in super. While the movie like bog and re F is related to dbz which is no longer available or canon thus that manga is not connected to official manga like super. It's for material to support the movie so it can't be used to the official one and the only statement that can be argued that goku absorp divine power is dende. Which is still questionable while anime has beerus and goku literally arguing about that concept and it's appear to be true. Which makes it more believable and clear than manga 3 the zamasu in manga doesn't have a power amp like the anime where he has giant purple coomer arm and bigger size later on which implies he amp his power 2 times which explains why he overwhelm vegito blue to some extend
@ 1. The BoG Manga was literally confirmed to be the same exact thing for the BoG Movie that the RoF Mini Manga for the RoF Movie, no where were the movies decanonized and infact were still said by Toriyama to watch RoF for the movie version while so does the RoF Mini Manga (written by both Toriyama and Toyotaro mind you, thus it’s canon just as much as the BoG version of the DBS Manga only a year later.) And no where was it said it’s just related to Z. Infact it was stated by Toriyama that the DBS anime and manga are EXTENSIONS of the BoG and RoF movies and stem from them. Also if they admitted that the manga version of BoG won’t show everything what happen in that continuity (which they did in an editors note) means that they likely just skipped the manga version of Goku absorbing God too. Because literally by your logic, Vegeta canonically never used SSJG outside the Broly Movie in the Anime. 2. He literally started getting it against Perfected Super Saiyan Blue Goku, yall need to- idk- READ THE DAMN MANGA.
This Is A Manga Goku That Stops Where The Anime Did
Ohhh that's why
I have my doubts that even current Manga Goku scales comparatively to Anime Goku, especially when you consider the Anime narrative heavily pushes the notion of Goku and Jiren rivaling the Hakaishin to some degree, where as the Manga portrays even Goku, Vegeta, Gohan, and Broly as seemingly no where near Beerus' level.
It’s crazy how a single line or a concept “ absorbed into base” can absolutely make power scaling go bonkers by adding such a crazy multiplier into the first number in the equation without transformation
the ssg absorbed to base is clearly false and explained that it was just remnants of ssg. Base goku is not greater than ssg goku, if ssg was truly absorbed by goku then his ki in base wouldn't be detectable by any of the z fighters. Another point is that if he truly absorbed ssg in his base then it shouldn't have been possible for him to be injured by a bullet lol.
i agree with the black arc tho, ssbk 20 does look stronger than mastered ssb but the problem is that mastered ssb is more focused on fighting at full efficiency without sacrificing too much. It's literally a comparison between perfected ssj vs ssj kaioken. Merged zamasu in anime is easily stronger than the manga version which is fine but i actually prefer the narative plot that black was actually not that strong because him stealing that body shouldn't have given him equal power/fighting experience as goku and vegeta whom trained their whole life to be strong. Vegito's power portrayal in the manga also makes a lot more sense than the anime, base vegito seemingly evaporating half of zamasu with a beam because vegito is a multiplication of their strength not just additive but immediately defusing after going ssb and charging all his power in kamehameha because it was too strong.
a lot of the anime filler arc can't really be used as proof, like we literally have roshi throwing hands with goku lmao.
if we are talking about who is stronger in their current versions (w/o mui) then manga easily clears because he can use omen with all his forms.
I respect this guy's videos but oh my God, he hears stuff like that and takes it out of context so many times 😂
Like obviously it’s not close. One is literally ahead of the other…
You can literally scale bog goku already above current manga lmao
@@randomguy9002simple answer:
no.
@@randomguy9002 manga goku absorbed ui in all of his forms from base to ssb lmao
@xpeke2.027 when did this stated?
Its still doesnt really matter
Anime dragon ball have dead zone which upscale the universe scaling above the manga
@@randomguy9002 current arc goku can use ui in combination with his saiyan forms, shown in moro and granolah arc. dead zone? wdym?
Arc by arc Anime version is way stronger.
Yes anime goku is strong bec he absorbed the god form and in his base he can earse the multiverse and he can multiply that base with all of his form multiplier but the problem is we dont know ssj god and blues multiplier it can be 500 to thousands and in anime he reached mui that multiplier is also not known 😂
Nah, Manga Goku even with ToP still negs the anime.
1. Goku did absorb the God form in the Manga version, while it’s true we don’t see it, it’s heavily implied the Manga at the time was only there to promote the Movie Version of Battle of Gods, an editors note even said the manga won’t show everything and for context, watch the movie where Goku does absorb God, meaning he did in the manga too.
2. assuming Hit in the manga isn’t equal to his anime counterpart is pretty disingenuous with nothing contradicting it, if anything it just upscales Manga Goku.
3. As for the Goku Black Arc, The Anime only had one massive amp and a small one while the manga has 2 large amps. Once one Vegeta went from being stalemated by SSJ Goku Black in SSJB to only needed God-Blue switch to destroy Goku Black in Rosé, the other when Goku got a fusion level amp from perfecting Blue.
“Vegito >>>> Zamasu in the manga” nope, Fussd Zamasu wasn’t corrupting in the manga until he fought Perfected SSJB Goku meaning he did infact get a fusion level amp.
4. As for the Tournament of Power, Jiren was overpowering Goku in the anime too and the latter had a rage boost that kinda unstablized UI and almost destroyed Goku’s Body.
Remember, Manga UI Goku lasted longer than his anime counterpart against Jiren, Manga Goku lost because Jiren adapted while it’s implied Anime Goku lost to either the rage amp destabilizing UI because it’s ineffective, or because of timing but since he lasted shorter than his Manga counterpart, I think it’s the former.
So before even the Moro Arc, Manga Goku negs his Anime Counterpart, cope.
1 the manga you refering is for support the movie mateiral to go watch. Which the movie is no longer canon or official as the anime comes out and redo everything in super. While the movie like bog and re F is related to dbz which is no longer available or canon thus that manga is not connected to official manga like super. It's for material to support the movie so it can't be used to the official one and the only statement that can be argued that goku absorp divine power is dende. Which is still questionable while anime has beerus and goku literally arguing about that concept and it's appear to be true. Which makes it more believable and clear than manga
3 the zamasu in manga doesn't have a power amp like the anime where he has giant purple coomer arm and bigger size later on which implies he amp his power 2 times which explains why he overwhelm vegito blue to some extend
@ 1. The BoG Manga was literally confirmed to be the same exact thing for the BoG Movie that the RoF Mini Manga for the RoF Movie, no where were the movies decanonized and infact were still said by Toriyama to watch RoF for the movie version while so does the RoF Mini Manga (written by both Toriyama and Toyotaro mind you, thus it’s canon just as much as the BoG version of the DBS Manga only a year later.)
And no where was it said it’s just related to Z. Infact it was stated by Toriyama that the DBS anime and manga are EXTENSIONS of the BoG and RoF movies and stem from them. Also if they admitted that the manga version of BoG won’t show everything what happen in that continuity (which they did in an editors note) means that they likely just skipped the manga version of Goku absorbing God too. Because literally by your logic, Vegeta canonically never used SSJG outside the Broly Movie in the Anime.
2. He literally started getting it against Perfected Super Saiyan Blue Goku, yall need to- idk- READ THE DAMN MANGA.
anime is stronger becouse they overly hype up feats to make it more exiting for the viewer
Kind of no they really don't care about that.