Good morning, Everyone! Here it is! The video about the Stihl MS260 that has been to another shop multiple times! I hope you all enjoy! Please Like and Subscribe! That will tell me that you are enjoying these videos and want to see more! Today on my bench, a Stihl MS462 M-tronic saw that doesn't run well! Oh Boy!!
@@marriedwithsmallengines That can't happen to me, but if my engines even wear out I would rebuild them with genuine parts and maybe even buy a new one too..
The three holes on the flywheel side are for the electric generator for the arctic kit that powers the heated handles and the anti-ice gasket on the carburetor for the arctic kit.
DEFINATELY A REBUILD CANDIDATE ,HIGHWAY OR METEOR AFTERMARKET KIT , NEW SEALS ,FRESH BEARINGS ,,INTAKE BOOT, IMPULSE LINE ,FUEL LINE AND FILTER ,AND SOME TIME ON A SATURDAY MORNING AFTER A BIG BACON AND EGG BREAKFAST,,LOTS OF COFFEE ,AND BY SUPPER YOULL HAVE ONE HECK OF A GOOD SAW 😁👍👍,THANKS FOR THE GREAT VIDEOS ERIKA,
I bought a 026 new in 1990, sold it a few years later, and got it back 25 years later. like that saw, air leak, bad cylinder, and piston. Easy choice, new after-market jug and piston, crank seals, carb kit and it runs like new. Too good of a saw to part out.
Absolutely agree. I have a 026 that my brother found along the side of a rode at least 10-12 years ago. He gave it to me and I got it running and have used it and my 034 to cut firewood for my house and my shop since I got it. Mostly used the 026, it's lighter than the 034 and is my favorite go to saw. I'd love to have that MS 260, I'd have Erica rebuild it and would much rather have that than any new saw, by far.
Definitely a rebuild. The 026\260 Stihls are legendary Pro 49cc saws…..hi torque, hi rev, light weight, very reliable and very powerful. I have an 026 Pro that is 20 years old and still perfect. It is my most cherished gas chainsaw (of eight different makes and models that I own). Stihl rebuild parts are too expensive to justify an OEM top end rebuild. But aftermarket jug/piston kits are available at various price and quality levels….definitely worth the investment. Also, that cylinder’s scoring may be mostly just aluminum transfer that can be removed by various tricks, allowing jug reuse with only replacement of the piston as needed. This would possibly justify the ludicrous OEM cost of a Stihl 260 piston. The rebuild itself is easy and everything else on your MS260 is cherry. Any chainsaw hobbiest would love to get their hands on it. It is just on a well-deserved vacation, looking forward to return to its job. Dr. K. P.S. Great video!!
Food for thought - if you don't mind shipping, you could do raffles or giveaways with these saws. I know there are a lot of people in the group that would love to be able to fix them after you already showed what's wrong and have videos on how to fix them. Or rebuild them and then do something with them. Love the videos and in depth problem solving!
I now have my father in law 's 024 AVS as he is too old to use it now. I think it was made in the early nineties and runs like a dream. I also own a MS441 magnum but the 024 is my favourite, all original, never been rebuilt. Not too shabby for a plus 30 year old saw.
The reason you found the problem the first time is that you are a professional while the other so called mechanics either do not know how or are too lazy to take the time to find the real problem. I like that you take the time to scope the cylinder and perform a vacuum/ pressure test. Keep up the excellent work.
I bought my first 026 in 1993. I accidentally ran over it with a tractor after 2 years. I used for another 12 years. MS 260 was on sale, so I got one. I also bought a used mint 026 3 years ago. I love these saws. Please fix it. A video would be great, just like all your other videos! Thanks Erica!
Gold stars on you for your M.B.A. diagnoses. BUTT the love for the saws you show, the 260 hug, incredible. I will now show more love for my saws Erica. THANKS !!
Servus Erica, your videos are very informative and I cant wait to see the next one. I also own a 260 chainsaw and it works great without a problem. The 260 in the video is worth fixing, it has not done too much work and looks good. It would be great if you could show how to change the crank seal without the Stihl tool. May be we can see the 260 running with a thumb up from you. Greatings from Germany.
Love my 260 and its nowhere near as tidy as this one. If you can get parts at trade price (seeing as you're a dealer), Id go OEM cylinder/piston, but if not then a Meteor kit. I rebuilt my 044 with a meteor piston and it runs well.
Love the chickens❤ Lawn mower catchers make good nesting laying boxes for chickens😊 Another great Autopsy😊 I think it’s a great transplantation participant ❤
Just seen this vid. I'd love to see a complete rebuild start to finish and the new part costings would be good too. So now i'm monitoring the channel even more. 🙂 If quality tools are bought and looked after. they'll be running for years. I bought a second hand FR350 over 20 years ago and the beast was superb. It cost me £150 back in the day. I reluctantly sold it last year for £500 and my only reason for selling was I have other Stihl multi tools and brush cutters.
I rebuilt a Poulan wild thing chainsaw one time ,, I was really proud of that saw , i spent my weekends for two months😊 working on rebuilding that saw , i loved it , Well I fucked up the throttle linkage ( Wasn't familiar with the repair procedure ) And i accidentally Busted it off at full throttle between my legs and it went straight to 14,000 RPM and blew my right testicle off when the piston ring got wound in the centrifugal clutch assembly and exploded ... I've been walking like John Wayne ever since ... Needless to say .... 😊
Another great video, I like your step by step process to see what the problem is, and what caused it. Its amazing how many different things can cause problems on such small machines. 😊.
Sadly, without pressure/vac and fuel/air delivery testing, over-lean conditions can only be detected by operator assessment of changes in engine sound, smell and performance. In my shop, I see tons of burned out Stihls, almost always due to oil seal leakage, cracked gas lines, carb air leaks, straight gassing and/or dull chains. Very sad that most users are pretty oblivious to the signs of a hot running or unhappy chainsaw. Of note, Stihl cylinders are very tough and can often be cleaned up and reused. OEM parts and Stihl shop time/labor expenses prohibit routine rebuilds, but DIY owners can keep their own quality chainsaws runnng forever….and its very satisfying. A Stihl chainsaw almost never needs to be thrown away. Dr. K.
Bonjour , encore une vidéo très bonne, les tests de compression sont précis 👍et vois avez trouver la panne Ça serait bien de faire une vidéo en changeant le piston cylindre et joint pour sauver cette scie .moi non plus je l'aurai réparee 😊
Just throw it away…no chance of that! I’m glad you look at them as a piece of art, because they are. That’s a pretty nice freebie, even with the roasted cylinder and piston.
Seems like the other shop should invest in a borescope camera. Would've saved everyone a bunch of time and money. In your next video, could you possibly describe in a bit more detail the symptoms of a lean running 2-stroke engine? I've got multiple pieces of stihl and echo equipment that I love, and want to keep in great running condition. I'm not sure that I'd be able to identify a lean running engine. Love your videos. Keep up the good work!
All they had to do was remove the exhaust and visually inspect the piston skirt which would have been enough to see the extent of the damage. Shame on them for being piss poor at their job.
@@kdrweld8518, yes she did explain the cause. I was hoping for a future explanation on how to identify a lean running saw. I'm not 100% sure that a casual operator would be able to tell. It's not like we're all going to pressure/vac test frequently to see if our engines are sucking air.
A typical dealer just wants to sell new saws. Our local dealer has a pretty poor record repairing Stihls. The good old saw shops fave been fading away for the last 40 years. Kingston is so lucky to have Erica.
Great video on this autopsy. I have watched several of your in-depth diagnostic video in the past, and your consistency of method is first rate. After the previous 290/390 video, either get a complete AM jug, piston and pan along with seals, or if mixing AM and OEM parts, trial fit first. That model would make a great backup.
I apologize I cannot subscribe anymore no matter how many times I hit the button. But honestly, the beginning was the chef's kiss along with the autopsy.
Definitely worth a rebuild! Saws in good shape! Good video and diagnostics on finding the issue. I would have checked clutch side seal and check for play in the crank bearings to further the diagnosis on any other issues. Thanks for sharing!!!Great video!!!
Thank you for saving that saw. I would have screamed at my phone if it was thrown away. Easy to fix that. The cylinder might be OK. Coukd just be aluminum transfer. A new piston and rings might be all it needs. Even if you need a cylinder, so what. That's a nice saw and should be cutting firewood for someone.
Thank you for posting this excellent video. I've been wondering what is wrong with the saw, if the other shops couldn't fix it. I guess the other shops simply don't have skilled technicians and an understanding of how to diagnose the cause of the problem -- in this case, the vacuum leak caused by the crank seals. You did wonderfully in pinning down the precise cause. I was thinking that the carburetor can be salvaged and re-used in someone else's saw.
I love what you're doing with this saw. Makes you know that repairs are not cut and dried. Lots of interest for me to watch. What I would like is for you to rebuild this saw maybe with after market parts. The one a couple days ago didn't go well but you never know, this saw might be different. We as subs would like to see this saw live again.
Great diagnostic video. I would love to see a rebuild for this saw. My guess for the three holes is that it is a warning. If you are thinking of disassembling beyond this point you should probably stop and have a nice cup or two of coffee before proceeding. Well done, Cheers!
I rebuilt my ms260 with Chinese parts, new engine head, new piston and rings. It's been running just fine for the past five years. I was in the same predicament as you, I was given the saw as a none starter and just for parts.
Thank u,Erica.Great diagnosis.Rebuild that beautiful saw.I dont participate in a disposable society.Everything has a reuse.Parts saws etc.What a shame it took a previous shop so long to diagnose it, properly.Fundamental basics,compression,spark,fuel.
Great video - lots of informative information from a great teacher who gives the viewer home work. Sad the saw had to get an autopsy but perhaps it will get some TLC and a new lease on life.
Good used top end are probably readily available if you can't find a new aftermarket top end. It's pretty simple to replace the top end on a vertical cylinder chainsaw. Crank seals for that chainsaw might be a bit difficult to find. It's a clean chainsaw. Repair it if you can find the parts cheap enough.
Yup. Figured I'd scroll down and see how far I had to go before someone else knew what that mount was for since I am days late to this one. Not as far as I thought it might take.
Personally I enjoy your content. Your consistent with you troubleshooting process which is key as you know. Which I learn by the way. I've had 2 025's and currently on a MS 250. It has been price point and performance level for the trees I work with. Other channels I watch, Buckin Billy Ray, Chickcanink, Donny Walker, Richard Flag & Bjourny Butler whom is a PNW logger, Iron horse, Tinman. Thanks for your channel.
Love your diagnostic/repair videos, Erica. The three holes on the flywheel side? ... my guess is for attaching a puller to separate the crankcase halves.
I would rebuild this saw since it is in great shape and a professional series saw. Have another cup of Strong coffee and have at it with a video of course...
Dawgs are up side down lol I haate decomps on saws,I have lost three saws do the decomp failing. Any shop and I mean any that can not fix a saw should either get a metter mechanic or quit being a dealer. You have a keene eye dfor abuse signs. For a few bucks she will live to see another day. Thank you for saving her.
Hello. Love, what you create. I learn lots every time. I do have one question that I am sure you have already answered but what is up with the green tape on top of most saws? Is it covering up another tag? Again, thanks for what you do. It will help me keep my saws running for 20 years plus.
Excellent video,as usual loved the content.do a rebuild for us with this saw,enjoy watching your detailed videos.thanks for sharing and grab a coffee.cheers
Good morning to you Erica. I do very much enjoy your content and your sense of humor. I do some tinkering around with chainsaw repairs, just for myself or family and it's all on old stuff. The 032, 031,041 and so on. Finding oem parts is all most impossible. Do you have any suggestions on aftermarket parts for these old saws
I'm quite unfamiliar with aftermarket kits...I tend to browse amazon. I am going to spend time learning more about aftermarket and do some rebuilds on the channel.
something I would suggest for your videos before working on any saws or whatever, is to put it over slowly but firm and listen to how crisp the compression is or isn't. as a master Stihl technician that's the first thing I do before anything else! also curious if you added any baffles to your burn tank to help it burn cleaner? cheers!
Hi there! Great advice. I can show that in the next low compression saw video I do. If I wasn't making a video about this saw, this would have been over in about 30 seconds. I wanted to show everyone a walk around on a MS260 and do a little investigating :)
I would keep it for when you have time, then do a rebuild. It would be a great little saw for someone.In the UK an OEM cylinder and Piston are £150 compared to a new MS261 at £700.
Definitely rebuild any good model saw, either aftermarket or oem if you can, you might get another saw with a good cylinder, either way you should get your money back if you decide to sell it, or you could raffle it and donate the money to a school or charity, check the rules first. Thanks for the video.
There's no other options than a rebuild. Don't you have a spare cylinder and a piston from another scrapped machine? :) Love your videos Erica. /Fredrik from the land of Huskies = Sweden ;o)
First off, shame upon the last shop for not seeing the air leak. Second, I'm sure somebody would rebuild that saw. No shame in selling a broken saw, if it known to be broken. Guys buy up broken or worn out saws at auction all the time. Still have a good carcass there, needs crank seals, piston and cylinder. Lots of folks rebuilding saws out there.😊
The scouring damage most likely is due to reving up too soon on a cold spring day. The whole engine would then have stresses, especially the top and bottom ends and the seals would start to weaken, forming a vacuum leak. These air-cooled engines are very sensitive to thermal shock loads and should be treated gently. It only takes a minute, or two the colder the day, to warm the engine on idle and then gently reving up before using. The oil in the fuel/oil/air mix also needs time to separate and form a film on the moving parts.🐞
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Good morning, Everyone! Here it is! The video about the Stihl MS260 that has been to another shop multiple times! I hope you all enjoy! Please Like and Subscribe! That will tell me that you are enjoying these videos and want to see more! Today on my bench, a Stihl MS462 M-tronic saw that doesn't run well! Oh Boy!!
@@marriedwithsmallengines Beautiful scoring...
Stihl Ultra...
HAHAHA
@@marriedwithsmallengines That can't happen to me, but if my engines even wear out I would rebuild them with genuine parts and maybe even buy a new one too..
Thumbs up great video adventure, that saw case is so sun faded,saw looks great, that little aluminum chain catch looks perfect
The three holes on the flywheel side are for the electric generator for the arctic kit that powers the heated handles and the anti-ice gasket on the carburetor for the arctic kit.
You are right, greetings from Germany.
I can’t afford much but here’s my five bucks and vote for an aftermarket jug and piston to keep this beauty out of the landfill
Wow, amazing!! Thank you!!
I have some big plans to announce soon and these extra funds will help fund it!!
Thank you!!
Fix it, don't part it out. Those saws are gems, some of the best out there.
DEFINATELY A REBUILD CANDIDATE ,HIGHWAY OR METEOR AFTERMARKET KIT , NEW SEALS ,FRESH BEARINGS ,,INTAKE BOOT, IMPULSE LINE ,FUEL LINE AND FILTER ,AND SOME TIME ON A SATURDAY MORNING AFTER A BIG BACON AND EGG BREAKFAST,,LOTS OF COFFEE ,AND BY SUPPER YOULL HAVE ONE HECK OF A GOOD SAW 😁👍👍,THANKS FOR THE GREAT VIDEOS ERIKA,
I bought a 026 new in 1990, sold it a few years later, and got it back 25 years later. like that saw, air leak, bad cylinder, and piston. Easy choice, new after-market jug and piston, crank seals, carb kit and it runs like new. Too good of a saw to part out.
Absolutely agree. I have a 026 that my brother found along the side of a rode at least 10-12 years ago. He gave it to me and I got it running and have used it and my 034 to cut firewood for my house and my shop since I got it. Mostly used the 026, it's lighter than the 034 and is my favorite go to saw. I'd love to have that MS 260, I'd have Erica rebuild it and would much rather have that than any new saw, by far.
A good quality Italian made Meteor cylinder/piston kit, $129.95, it will run like new.
That or a Hyway. This saw is a great candidate for a post-Halloween rebuild! Wink-wink.
Italian and quality are two words that should never be used together.
@@phil6012More like convoluted. 😝
Definitely a rebuild. The 026\260 Stihls are legendary Pro 49cc saws…..hi torque, hi rev, light weight, very reliable and very powerful. I have an 026 Pro that is 20 years old and still perfect. It is my most cherished gas chainsaw (of eight different makes and models that I own). Stihl rebuild parts are too expensive to justify an OEM top end rebuild. But aftermarket jug/piston kits are available at various price and quality levels….definitely worth the investment. Also, that cylinder’s scoring may be mostly just aluminum transfer that can be removed by various tricks, allowing jug reuse with only replacement of the piston as needed. This would possibly justify the ludicrous OEM cost of a Stihl 260 piston. The rebuild itself is easy and everything else on your MS260 is cherry. Any chainsaw hobbiest would love to get their hands on it. It is just on a well-deserved vacation, looking forward to return to its job. Dr. K. P.S. Great video!!
Food for thought - if you don't mind shipping, you could do raffles or giveaways with these saws. I know there are a lot of people in the group that would love to be able to fix them after you already showed what's wrong and have videos on how to fix them. Or rebuild them and then do something with them.
Love the videos and in depth problem solving!
I now have my father in law 's 024 AVS as he is too old to use it now. I think it was made in the early nineties and runs like a dream. I also own a MS441 magnum but the 024 is my favourite, all original, never been rebuilt. Not too shabby for a plus 30 year old saw.
Thanks for doing what you do!
Wow, thank you!! Thank you! Thank you!
The reason you found the problem the first time is that you are a professional while the other so called mechanics either do not know how or are too lazy to take the time to find the real problem. I like that you take the time to scope the cylinder and perform a vacuum/ pressure test. Keep up the excellent work.
I bought my first 026 in 1993. I accidentally ran over it with a tractor after 2 years. I used for another 12 years. MS 260 was on sale, so I got one. I also bought a used mint 026 3 years ago. I love these saws. Please fix it. A video would be great, just like all your other videos! Thanks Erica!
As a cat owner I also love your cat. If I ever make it to Ontario I come to bring German food and sweets and pet that lovely cat.
They both love to be pet! And treats!
I was sorry to see the cylinder wall condition. I said "Oh Oh". John from MI
Gold stars on you for your M.B.A. diagnoses. BUTT the love for the saws you show, the 260 hug, incredible. I will now show more love for my saws Erica. THANKS !!
That is a beautiful saw! I have 026, and really hope you will rebuild thta 260 Erica. :)
Servus Erica, your videos are very informative and I cant wait to see the next one. I also own a 260 chainsaw and it works great without a problem. The 260 in the video is worth fixing, it has not done too much work and looks good. It would be great if you could show how to change the crank seal without the Stihl tool. May be we can see the 260 running with a thumb up from you. Greatings from Germany.
Rebuilding one of those today! That is in great condition, definitely worth a cylinder
Love my 260 and its nowhere near as tidy as this one. If you can get parts at trade price (seeing as you're a dealer), Id go OEM cylinder/piston, but if not then a Meteor kit. I rebuilt my 044 with a meteor piston and it runs well.
I can't believe it took another dealer to diagnosis a scored cly. Your the best Erica. Dave in MO
Love the chickens❤
Lawn mower catchers make good nesting laying boxes for chickens😊
Another great Autopsy😊
I think it’s a great transplantation participant ❤
I have a 036 Pro. Looking forward to that repair. I like to do my own work if possible. I have learned alot from you.
I watch all your videos. Very informative and interesting. Thank you for sharing.
Wolf creek saw shop has the best aftermarket parts . And he's a super nice guy. Ive bought pistons and cylinders and seals ... bearings from him.
I will look into it!! 😊
Just seen this vid. I'd love to see a complete rebuild start to finish and the new part costings would be good too. So now i'm monitoring the channel even more. 🙂 If quality tools are bought and looked after. they'll be running for years.
I bought a second hand FR350 over 20 years ago and the beast was superb. It cost me £150 back in the day. I reluctantly sold it last year for £500 and my only reason for selling was I have other Stihl multi tools and brush cutters.
You have to repair this saw Erica, can't leave it like that, even if a 2 part video, love your content ❤
I know that it's not economical for shops to rebuild a saw, but that one is so cherry that I'd give it a reprieve.
I forget you female kitty's name. Of course, I remember Tony who is your tuxedo boy. Another awesome video!
Another great video and excellent diagnosis. Thanks Erica
G day from Kit-waterloo area Yes alot of value, especially seeing what cause it!
So sucking in air from seals ruined engine
Ths
I bought a mint 026 a few years ago for $75 with a tag on it from a dealer put a carb kit and changed the lines it runs like a champ
Thank you, Erica, for your patient, detailed videos.
Watching from Australia,learning lots of maintenance tips thanks for your videos
Thanks somuch for another great video. I remember the eclipse chickens.
I rebuilt a Poulan wild thing chainsaw one time ,, I was really proud of that saw , i spent my weekends for two months😊 working on rebuilding that saw , i loved it , Well I fucked up the throttle linkage ( Wasn't familiar with the repair procedure ) And i accidentally Busted it off at full throttle between my legs and it went straight to 14,000 RPM and blew my right testicle off when the piston ring got wound in the centrifugal clutch assembly and exploded ... I've been walking like John Wayne ever since ... Needless to say .... 😊
That story took a turn 🙂I was expecting something more "happily ever after".
Thanks a lot to invest time and share this with us ! Really enjoy your repairs ! Please keep going !
Another great video, I like your step by step process to see what the problem is, and what caused it.
Its amazing how many different things can cause problems on such small machines.
😊.
Sadly, without pressure/vac and fuel/air delivery testing, over-lean conditions can only be detected by operator assessment of changes in engine sound, smell and performance. In my shop, I see tons of burned out Stihls, almost always due to oil seal leakage, cracked gas lines, carb air leaks, straight gassing and/or dull chains. Very sad that most users are pretty oblivious to the signs of a hot running or unhappy chainsaw. Of note, Stihl cylinders are very tough and can often be cleaned up and reused. OEM parts and Stihl shop time/labor expenses prohibit routine rebuilds, but DIY owners can keep their own quality chainsaws runnng forever….and its very satisfying. A Stihl chainsaw almost never needs to be thrown away. Dr. K.
Bonjour , encore une vidéo très bonne, les tests de compression sont précis 👍et vois avez trouver la panne
Ça serait bien de faire une vidéo en changeant le piston cylindre et joint pour sauver cette scie .moi non plus je l'aurai réparee 😊
Just throw it away…no chance of that! I’m glad you look at them as a piece of art, because they are. That’s a pretty nice freebie, even with the roasted cylinder and piston.
Seems like the other shop should invest in a borescope camera. Would've saved everyone a bunch of time and money.
In your next video, could you possibly describe in a bit more detail the symptoms of a lean running 2-stroke engine? I've got multiple pieces of stihl and echo equipment that I love, and want to keep in great running condition. I'm not sure that I'd be able to identify a lean running engine.
Love your videos. Keep up the good work!
All they had to do was remove the exhaust and visually inspect the piston skirt which would have been enough to see the extent of the damage. Shame on them for being piss poor at their job.
She did a good job explaining that the crank seals sucking air making the chainsaw run lean over long periods of time would cause that damage
@@kdrweld8518, yes she did explain the cause. I was hoping for a future explanation on how to identify a lean running saw. I'm not 100% sure that a casual operator would be able to tell. It's not like we're all going to pressure/vac test frequently to see if our engines are sucking air.
Someone mentioned you live in Kingston. I live in Kingston also.
You would have thought the other shop would have done everything you did. The first time he bought his saw to the Stihl dealer. 🤔
Great Video!!!
A typical dealer just wants to sell new saws. Our local dealer has a pretty poor record repairing Stihls. The good old saw shops fave been fading away for the last 40 years. Kingston is so lucky to have Erica.
Sad that it took 3 trips for someone to shove in a borescope. Should have been checked on the first visit.
Great video on this autopsy. I have watched several of your in-depth diagnostic video in the past, and your consistency of method is first rate.
After the previous 290/390 video, either get a complete AM jug, piston and pan along with seals, or if mixing AM and OEM parts, trial fit first. That model would make a great backup.
3 holes are for generator bolt on for the heated handles is my guess. Great content!
Very informative. I appreciate your work.
I apologize I cannot subscribe anymore no matter how many times I hit the button.
But honestly, the beginning was the chef's kiss along with the autopsy.
Danke!
Oh my!! Thank you!!!! 🙏
Makes you wonder what the other shop even looked at ? 😂😂
Thats Cool.
.. a go-kart track in your yard. I hope you never get hurt.
Shall we all have a moment of silence for this saw please?
And a fanfare when Erica fixes it 🙂
Definitely worth a rebuild! Saws in good shape!
Good video and diagnostics on finding the issue. I would have checked clutch side seal and check for play in the crank bearings to further the diagnosis on any other issues.
Thanks for sharing!!!Great video!!!
Thank you for saving that saw. I would have screamed at my phone if it was thrown away. Easy to fix that. The cylinder might be OK. Coukd just be aluminum transfer. A new piston and rings might be all it needs. Even if you need a cylinder, so what. That's a nice saw and should be cutting firewood for someone.
Thank you for posting this excellent video. I've been wondering what is wrong with the saw, if the other shops couldn't fix it. I guess the other shops simply don't have skilled technicians and an understanding of how to diagnose the cause of the problem -- in this case, the vacuum leak caused by the crank seals. You did wonderfully in pinning down the precise cause. I was thinking that the carburetor can be salvaged and re-used in someone else's saw.
Definitely worth fixing. I would probably go with a decent quality aftermarket cylinder and piston if the original cylinder can't be cleaned up.
Meowmy loves her cat
best video on you tube-excellent
Wow, thanks!
From a first time viewer and subscriber, Thanks!! I enjoyed your video.
Great content on this one; thank your u 😊
I love what you're doing with this saw. Makes you know that repairs are not cut and dried. Lots of interest for me to watch. What I would like is for you to rebuild this saw maybe with after market parts. The one a couple days ago didn't go well but you never know, this saw might be different. We as subs would like to see this saw live again.
Good girl,,I admire your admireration of the saws..love your way of work an problem solving..
Great diagnostic video. I would love to see a rebuild for this saw. My guess for the three holes is that it is a warning. If you are thinking of disassembling beyond this point you should probably stop and have a nice cup or two of coffee before proceeding. Well done, Cheers!
I rebuilt my ms260 with Chinese parts, new engine head, new piston and rings. It's been running just fine for the past five years. I was in the same predicament as you, I was given the saw as a none starter and just for parts.
Thank u,Erica.Great diagnosis.Rebuild that beautiful saw.I dont participate in a disposable society.Everything has a reuse.Parts saws etc.What a shame it took a previous shop so long to diagnose it, properly.Fundamental basics,compression,spark,fuel.
Great video - lots of informative information from a great teacher who gives the viewer home work. Sad the saw had to get an autopsy but perhaps it will get some TLC and a new lease on life.
Good used top end are probably readily available if you can't find a new aftermarket top end. It's pretty simple to replace the top end on a vertical cylinder chainsaw. Crank seals for that chainsaw might be a bit difficult to find.
It's a clean chainsaw. Repair it if you can find the parts cheap enough.
Heated handle stator mount.
Cool video!👍
Yup. Figured I'd scroll down and see how far I had to go before someone else knew what that mount was for since I am days late to this one. Not as far as I thought it might take.
Personally I enjoy your content. Your consistent with you troubleshooting process which is key as you know. Which I learn by the way. I've had 2 025's and currently on a MS 250. It has been price point and performance level for the trees I work with. Other channels I watch, Buckin Billy Ray, Chickcanink, Donny Walker, Richard Flag & Bjourny Butler whom is a PNW logger, Iron horse, Tinman. Thanks for your channel.
Great video, I'm glad you tore into it to find the problem, very interesting 😀
Love your diagnostic/repair videos, Erica. The three holes on the flywheel side? ... my guess is for attaching a puller to separate the crankcase halves.
Fantastic video thank you for taking the extra time for teaching!
I would rebuild this saw since it is in great shape and a professional series saw. Have another cup of Strong coffee and have at it with a video of course...
Dawgs are up side down lol I haate decomps on saws,I have lost three saws do the decomp failing. Any shop and I mean any that can not fix a saw should either get a metter mechanic or quit being a dealer. You have a keene eye dfor abuse signs. For a few bucks she will live to see another day. Thank you for saving her.
Hello. Love, what you create. I learn lots every time. I do have one question that I am sure you have already answered but what is up with the green tape on top of most saws? Is it covering up another tag? Again, thanks for what you do. It will help me keep my saws running for 20 years plus.
I reckon owner or company details??
Another awesome video, thank you, Erica
Excellent video,as usual loved the content.do a rebuild for us with this saw,enjoy watching your detailed videos.thanks for sharing and grab a coffee.cheers
Good morning to you Erica. I do very much enjoy your content and your sense of humor. I do some tinkering around with chainsaw repairs, just for myself or family and it's all on old stuff. The 032, 031,041 and so on. Finding oem parts is all most impossible. Do you have any suggestions on aftermarket parts for these old saws
I'm quite unfamiliar with aftermarket kits...I tend to browse amazon. I am going to spend time learning more about aftermarket and do some rebuilds on the channel.
@marriedwithsmallengines Thank you for responding and I am looking forward to seeing more videos.
Another great video you rock...
Yes I find value in watch your video please keep it come Garry Australia
something I would suggest for your videos before working on any saws or whatever, is to put it over slowly but firm and listen to how crisp the compression is or isn't. as a master Stihl technician that's the first thing I do before anything else! also curious if you added any baffles to your burn tank to help it burn cleaner? cheers!
Hi there! Great advice. I can show that in the next low compression saw video I do. If I wasn't making a video about this saw, this would have been over in about 30 seconds. I wanted to show everyone a walk around on a MS260 and do a little investigating :)
Thank you for all you do
I would keep it for when you have time, then do a rebuild. It would be a great little saw for someone.In the UK an OEM cylinder and Piston are £150 compared to a new MS261 at £700.
If I remember well the 3 screws are for the generator that powers up the carburetor heating and the heating element in the handlebar.
Erica i couldn't dump that saw i would rebuild it and i enjoy the video's they are very helpful
Cool, I've been waiting for this one to hit your workbench. Good informative video.
Subscribed ! brilliant channel , I have learned so much and do not use a chain saw .
Good parts corpse for your collection. Great autopsy!
I have no idea what those screws holes are for, but my guess is for jack screws to pull the seal. Thanks for sharing!
Definitely rebuild any good model saw, either aftermarket or oem if you can, you might get another saw with a good cylinder, either way you should get your money back if you decide to sell it, or you could raffle it and donate the money to a school or charity, check the rules first. Thanks for the video.
I'd like to see a rebuild. Maybe make it a giveaway to one of your lucky subscribers
Hi Erica!!! Love watching your channel!!! ❤
What is wrong with people? Pro saw is an easy rebuild! You would scrap a scored 170 or 250.
Another great score for you!
Hopefully you rebuild that nice piece!
Please rebuild this saw and let live on!
I have a 262XP Husky, great saw!
There's no other options than a rebuild. Don't you have a spare cylinder and a piston from another scrapped machine? :)
Love your videos Erica.
/Fredrik from the land of Huskies = Sweden ;o)
I don't think I do! It will be new for this one Aftermarket or OEM is the question ...
@@marriedwithsmallengines would you get your money back with oem if you sell it? I saw your aftermarket rebuild...🤣
Are the three holes around the seal for some unbelievably outrageous expensive Stihl seal extractor tool? 8^) Great video! Cheers.
First off, shame upon the last shop for not seeing the air leak. Second, I'm sure somebody would rebuild that saw. No shame in selling a broken saw, if it known to be broken. Guys buy up broken or worn out saws at auction all the time. Still have a good carcass there, needs crank seals, piston and cylinder. Lots of folks rebuilding saws out there.😊
The scouring damage most likely is due to reving up too soon on a cold spring day. The whole engine would then have stresses, especially the top and bottom ends and the seals would start to weaken, forming a vacuum leak. These air-cooled engines are very sensitive to thermal shock loads and should be treated gently.
It only takes a minute, or two the colder the day, to warm the engine on idle and then gently reving up before using. The oil in the fuel/oil/air mix also needs time to separate and form a film on the moving parts.🐞