Nice... one thing where the truss wins even if they're a bit of a nightmare with stray light ingress is they are far easier to collimate. You can see the secondary directly with the OTA lying nose down on a table, and also see the laser return beam directly and not have to rely on reflections etc.
I totally agree with that. I just needs some clear nights. I have been collimating my a%% off. I'm collimating my collimations. :) I am also going thru my focuser setup in SG Pro. I did one night a few days ago and it was a total failure. Couldn't get a good auto focus to save a bitc%%s life!!. I will have to spend more time tuning the sesto senso with SG pro. It may have had something to do with less than good seeing?. I use the Farpoint laser collimator and Farpoint cheshire, and the Howie glatter laser collimator with the circular attachment. We will see if I hit the mark.
Thank you very much zzfactor! This video is the best one on youtube to get a complete overview of this astrograph for mounting points and design. This is better than the product pictures or the orion video on TH-cam. May I ask what you personally use for collimation? I have some suggestions, but your suggestion from hands-on experience would be more valuable.
Hi Mark C, I use a number of methods. Some tools that I use is the Howie Glatter with laser dot, concentric circle and square grid attachments, the Farpoint laser collimator kit with the autocollimator included, and the Ho Tech SCA laser collimator. and a crazy use of a video camera with a remote monitor. I may be working with someone on a software solution soon but I can't speak much more about that. This is a very cool one of my many hobbies and I can hardly wait until the weather is better so I can get out and use my scopes. I replaced the focuser with a Feathertouch focuser and put a Sesto Senso motor fucus unit on it. I raplaced the DSLR with a ZWO ASI 1600mm Pro main camera. I replaced the guide scope with an Orion ST80 80mm objective, 400mm focal length guide scope.
Brilliant. Can you please share some Galaxy images you captured with this. I am always confused on the output of galaxies for RC. I generally find newtons producing better galaxy images, and am not sure if that is because mostly galaxies are captured using newtons relative to RCs, or thats because of the optics.
Hello and thank you for the video. Do you think it is a good scope? I thought about picking up either the 12" or 10". I have a Meade 10" LX200 Classic with the Super Wedge but I haven't had much time to use it. I thought about purchasing the Meade 16" LX200 ACF F/8 or F/10 OTA and there's an $800 difference from the F/10 to the F/8 but the OTA's are way cheaper than getting the whole rig for $20,000+ and I already an Antares 6.3 Focal Reducer. I figure I could either manufacture a mount or have one built but I'll definitely have more time on my hands down the road to dedicate more time to Astrophotography and star gazing.
Hi frankmmiii, Yes, I do think that it's a good scope, but due to the nature of RC scopes with precise collimation procedures it's not for everyone. I have loads of collimation tools and methods but don't regret it at all. I also have a Meade 10" and enjoy it too. I got my first light panel and am ready to check it out when I get the chance to.
Nice Video. I would like to see your guide scope connection to the scope. The meade is secured on the plate on top of the scope, that I understand. I too own a RC 10"
I changed the setup and put the meade 70mm quad apo on its own mount setup as it was intended to be, it has it's own guide scope now. I replaced it with an orion 80mm scope. since it has such a long distance throw for focus, I had to include a long extension tube and stabilizer to combat differential flexure.
Hi Robert Hope all is well. I really like this scope! Any RC is a real task to collimate, I have a number of complicated methods that I use that are difficult to explain for collimation. I purchased five expensive collimation tools for it including an artificial star. I also purchased a feathertouch (again, very expensive) focuser that works like a dream coupled with the sesto senso focus motor. I also got a shroud to help with off axis flaring and a four piece dew strip system. I hardly have to collimate my 10" Mead schmidt but I collimate the 10" RC maybe about every 4th time I use it. This is overkill but being a cinematographer I am use to dealing with optics. I have the ZWO ASI1600mm pro mono cam on it. I know it sounds like a pain but I am 100% glad I got this scope.
Very nice! I bet you will like it. I have some additions on this setup, A feathertouch focuser, an astrozap shroud, four strip dew heater and controller and an 80mm guide scope. I have used the new focuser, very nice unit. but have not had a chance to test out the new guide scope. I do appreciate the 75 pound weight capacity of my CGX-L, I need it for the payload that I have. I think we are in for a bit of wait for good weather.
I was going back and forth between testing it as a guide scope and doing a two camera imaging setup. But it's different now. I am using a 80mm x 400mm scope as the guide scope and also attatched a small finder scope. The 70mm Mead quad apo is a setup all on it's own now. I replaced the focuser with a feathertouch rack and pinion and a sesto senso focus motor.
Hi, It all depends on what you want to do. I would say to do some research based on your needs and buget. You have decide what is best for your situation.
@@sushilkanwar9744 There are many choices that depend on your personal intent. My opinion will be based on my use and budget. I can say that I'm glad I purchased this one.Do a lot of research and make your desision based on that.
Hi, thank you for the unboxing. Wow, nice setup. Percentage wise, do you travel or do you backyard. I'm interested in knowing how much of an effort it is to take this setup to a park, thanks
Hi again. So, I'm seriously looking to buy this RC, how do you like so far. Has it met your expectations. What targets have you photographed. Very much appreciate a reply, thank you!
HI--Just saw this video last night. I am new to Rochester (Irondequoit, actually). 8" Cave and 5" APO on an ieq45. Wonder what the working weight of your scope is. Hope we can meet up some day/night. Love your scope. Aim high.
Hi Splortz, Welcome to Rochester :) The OTA is 35 lbs. but I have a lot of stuff stacket on it. I am continuously adding new items to it incuding support gear. The latest is the feathertouch focuser which makes auto focusing much more accurate and repeatable. I also got the astrozap dew shroud which cuts reflections and ground lighting. Once the virus is put behind us we can look into star parties again. Hopefully soon.
@@zzfactor Thank you. The people of Rochester are very welcoming. Today I closed a sale agreement with another observer in Massachusetts. I am purchasing his Orion 8" RC (steel tube) with a case and many accessories. I was lucky enough to get it for under 700 USD. We should complete the transaction by next weekend. By all means look after yourself with regard to that bug. It's taking a lot of us. My wife and I met at the eyepiece of a telescope. That's a story for another time. Congrats on your very methodical and studied acquisition of astro gear. I've subscribed and am enjoying your other accessory videos. :-)
Expect more rain. My little RC has arrived. Need to adapt the dovetail saddle, do some collimation. It's going to be a couple of weeks, so go ahead with that picnic.
@@splortz Congrats on your new purchase :) I'm breaking in a new Hotech SCA cross hair laser collimator. This makes five collimation tools. I think I will stay at that for a while. It will be nice to meet once this virus is over. It's up to the scientists to save us all. Again.
Also what camera do you attach to the RC and how sharp it is. I just ordered the Ioptron CE70G mount and planning on getting the Orion RC 10” Truss tube. I also ordered the ioptron eFocuser for the RC. I need all the info l can get from you
I do most of my visual visual sessions with my 10" Meade schmidt casagrain with all the way from 26mm for the moon to 10mm for planets and some times more than that if it is a good night for it. And do astro photagraphy with the 10" RC.
@@simeonwelbeck3805 I have the ASI 1600MM pro on a feathertouch focuser with the sesto senso focus motor and really like that setup. Very sharp images.
You might want to look into the iOptron CEM120, I think it has a 120 lb payload capacity. or one of the paramounts by Software Bisque such as the Software Bisque Robotic Paramount MYT Mount - SB10281
If i may know .what is the price of this teleskop now , i want to buy it. Where can it buy it. if in Indonesia it has' nt sold a teleskop like this .please answer friend. I am an amateur astronomer from Indonesia.
Looks great! I'm looking to get one, although no one has them in stock now. :-( Are you willing to share your CN name so I can contact you? I'm Midnight Dan on CN. I live just outside of Rochester. Are you a member of the local astronomy club, ASRAS?
I wanted music that was silly sounding and it is definately that. I am a long time musician that performed the funk masters like Parliament Funkadelic, Ohio Players, Brothers Johnson etc. and wanted to do the opposite for a change. :)
If I were our President I would say yes, But I like telling the truth, so I will so no, me or no one else can see the flag on the moon with any telescope :)
zzfactor What a shame you had to spoil your video by this asinine comment about the best president American could have ever asked for in these times of idiots trying to destroy the country.
@zzfactor yeah look around! Have you have ever seen America as peaceful and harmonious as it is now? It's virtually a utopia because of Trump. NOT! (Comment posted January 6th, 2021)
I have the orion ST80 400mm focal length and 80mm objective with a ZWO ASI 129 guide camera. You need to have a very long extension tube with this setup. I got a 2" long extesion tube and a Baader 1.25" screw on eyepiece holder to finish it off. I also devised a bracket/brace because of how long the extension tube is. The guide scope is not the one in the video, That one is the Meade 70mm quad apo. at over $1000.00 it's overkill. I use the Meade quad apo for what it is made for, a separate telescope system all on its own.
WOW congratutions!
Thank you. It's a pretty nice hobby.
Nice... one thing where the truss wins even if they're a bit of a nightmare with stray light ingress is they are far easier to collimate. You can see the secondary directly with the OTA lying nose down on a table, and also see the laser return beam directly and not have to rely on reflections etc.
I totally agree with that. I just needs some clear nights. I have been collimating my a%% off. I'm collimating my collimations. :)
I am also going thru my focuser setup in SG Pro. I did one night a few days ago and it was a total failure. Couldn't get a good auto focus to save a bitc%%s life!!. I will have to spend more time tuning the sesto senso with SG pro. It may have had something to do with less than good seeing?. I use the Farpoint laser collimator and Farpoint cheshire, and the Howie glatter laser collimator with the circular attachment. We will see if I hit the mark.
That is one sick truss assembly
Some how the assesories list keeps on growing ? :)
Thanks.
Great scope will get the CC version soon enough for visual..love the dorky music BTW ..but then I love watchin paint dry!
I Do enjoy this scope. I replaced the focuser with a feathertouch. Wow!!
Amazing telescope!
Thank you. I enjoy using it.
Just magnificent !!
Thank you. It's an ongoing project :)
Thank you very much zzfactor! This video is the best one on youtube to get a complete overview of this astrograph for mounting points and design. This is better than the product pictures or the orion video on TH-cam. May I ask what you personally use for collimation? I have some suggestions, but your suggestion from hands-on experience would be more valuable.
Hi Mark C,
I use a number of methods. Some tools that I use is the Howie Glatter with laser dot, concentric circle and square grid attachments, the Farpoint laser collimator kit with the autocollimator included, and the Ho Tech SCA laser collimator. and a crazy use of a video camera with a remote monitor. I may be working with someone on a software solution soon but I can't speak much more about that. This is a very cool one of my many hobbies and I can hardly wait until the weather is better so I can get out and use my scopes.
I replaced the focuser with a Feathertouch focuser and put a Sesto Senso motor fucus unit on it. I raplaced the DSLR with a ZWO ASI 1600mm Pro main camera. I replaced the guide scope with an Orion ST80 80mm objective, 400mm focal length guide scope.
splendid set up
Thank you.
Brilliant. Can you please share some Galaxy images you captured with this. I am always confused on the output of galaxies for RC. I generally find newtons producing better galaxy images, and am not sure if that is because mostly galaxies are captured using newtons relative to RCs, or thats because of the optics.
amazing
Sweet set up..
Thanks.
Hello and thank you for the video. Do you think it is a good scope? I thought about picking up either the 12" or 10". I have a Meade 10" LX200 Classic with the Super Wedge but I haven't had much time to use it. I thought about purchasing the Meade 16" LX200 ACF F/8 or F/10 OTA and there's an $800 difference from the F/10 to the F/8 but the OTA's are way cheaper than getting the whole rig for $20,000+ and I already an Antares 6.3 Focal Reducer. I figure I could either manufacture a mount or have one built but I'll definitely have more time on my hands down the road to dedicate more time to Astrophotography and star gazing.
Hi frankmmiii,
Yes, I do think that it's a good scope, but due to the nature of RC scopes with precise collimation procedures it's not for everyone. I have loads of collimation tools and methods but don't regret it at all. I also have a Meade 10" and enjoy it too. I got my first light panel and am ready to check it out when I get the chance to.
Nice Video. I would like to see your guide scope connection to the scope. The meade is secured on the plate on top of the scope, that I understand. I too own a RC 10"
I changed the setup and put the meade 70mm quad apo on its own mount setup as it was intended to be, it has it's own guide scope now. I replaced it with an orion 80mm scope. since it has such a long distance throw for focus, I had to include a long extension tube and stabilizer to combat differential flexure.
This is the scope I am saving for, question for you, how have you found it to be?? What about the collimation? Easy/hard and how frequently??
Hi Robert Hope all is well.
I really like this scope! Any RC is a real task to collimate, I have a number of complicated methods that I use that are difficult to explain for collimation. I purchased five expensive collimation tools for it including an artificial star. I also purchased a feathertouch (again, very expensive) focuser that works like a dream coupled with the sesto senso focus motor. I also got a shroud to help with off axis flaring and a four piece dew strip system. I hardly have to collimate my 10" Mead schmidt but I collimate the 10" RC maybe about every 4th time I use it. This is overkill but being a cinematographer I am use to dealing with optics. I have the ZWO ASI1600mm pro mono cam on it. I know it sounds like a pain but I am 100% glad I got this scope.
I have a metal tube Orion 10" RC. Like you, my mount is a Celestron CGX. I'm waiting for clear skies to test it out.
Very nice! I bet you will like it.
I have some additions on this setup, A feathertouch focuser, an astrozap shroud, four strip dew heater and controller and an 80mm guide scope. I have used the new focuser, very nice unit. but have not had a chance to test out the new guide scope. I do appreciate the 75 pound weight capacity of my CGX-L, I need it for the payload that I have. I think we are in for a bit of wait for good weather.
@@zzfactor Thanks. I let you know how it goes.
@@hugopritchard8455 Good luck! They are a lot of work but well worth it :)
@@zzfactor Do you cover up your truss at all? I know that some Dobsonians are covered up.
@@hugopritchard8455 Yes, I do have a shroud that I use some times.
wow super
I would like to see what you can see by that telescope
Looking forward to this telescope season for sure!.
Can you enjoy also visually like it does 10 Newton or SCT?
Yes you can do visual astro with it also.
I'm in nashville tn, so also far
Great music!! If you're autoguiding with the 50mm scope, what is the Meade 70mm scope for?
I was going back and forth between testing it as a guide scope and doing a two camera imaging setup. But it's different now. I am using a 80mm x 400mm scope as the guide scope and also attatched a small finder scope. The 70mm Mead quad apo is a setup all on it's own now. I replaced the focuser with a feathertouch rack and pinion and a sesto senso focus motor.
@@zzfactor I’m also using an Orion 80mm guide scope! Great combo!
Hi,love the new scope
I am unable to choose between a edge hd9.25 and a 10inch rc?
Please help
Hi, It all depends on what you want to do. I would say to do some research based on your needs and buget. You have decide what is best for your situation.
@@zzfactorI need a all rounder scope, but still what is your opinion on any below 4000$
@@sushilkanwar9744 There are many choices that depend on your personal intent. My opinion will be based on my use and budget. I can say that I'm glad I purchased this one.Do a lot of research and make your desision based on that.
Filter wheel with DSLR? Very interesting. What filters do you use?? Very nice setup by the way!
I am using it with MY ZWO camera now. I was using a CLS-CCD filter in it back then. Now days, LUM, R,G,B,HA,OII,SII,CLS-CCD
Hi, thank you for the unboxing. Wow, nice setup. Percentage wise, do you travel or do you backyard. I'm interested in knowing how much of an effort it is to take this setup to a park, thanks
I go to remote sites and use it in the back yard. It does take some time to setup but i think its worth it. I set up a few hours before dark.
@@zzfactor How do you package the telescope? Thank you for the reply!
I use large and small tupperware type containers to house all of the gear..
@@zzfactor Thank you for reply and your time. I'll be watching future vlogs.
Hi again. So, I'm seriously looking to buy this RC, how do you like so far. Has it met your expectations. What targets have you photographed. Very much appreciate a reply, thank you!
Can I mount it on a sky watcher eq6r?
I have a guide scope, camera and some reducers
I think if you don't load it up much more than the base setup you should be fine.
@@zzfactor Thanks,
then I'll go for cem 70
HI--Just saw this video last night. I am new to Rochester (Irondequoit, actually). 8" Cave and 5" APO on an ieq45. Wonder what the working weight of your scope is. Hope we can meet up some day/night. Love your scope. Aim high.
Hi Splortz,
Welcome to Rochester :) The OTA is 35 lbs. but I have a lot of stuff stacket on it. I am continuously adding new items to it incuding support gear. The latest is the feathertouch focuser which makes auto focusing much more accurate and repeatable. I also got the astrozap dew shroud which cuts reflections and ground lighting. Once the virus is put behind us we can look into star parties again. Hopefully soon.
@@zzfactor Thank you. The people of Rochester are very welcoming. Today I closed a sale agreement with another observer in Massachusetts. I am purchasing his Orion 8" RC (steel tube) with a case and many accessories. I was lucky enough to get it for under 700 USD. We should complete the transaction by next weekend. By all means look after yourself with regard to that bug. It's taking a lot of us. My wife and I met at the eyepiece of a telescope. That's a story for another time. Congrats on your very methodical and studied acquisition of astro gear. I've subscribed and am enjoying your other accessory videos. :-)
Expect more rain. My little RC has arrived. Need to adapt the dovetail saddle, do some collimation. It's going to be a couple of weeks, so go ahead with that picnic.
@@splortz Congrats on your new purchase :)
I'm breaking in a new Hotech SCA cross hair laser collimator. This makes five collimation tools. I think I will stay at that for a while.
It will be nice to meet once this virus is over. It's up to the scientists to save us all. Again.
That cost like lot
How heavy it was to mount it yourself on top.
It is heavy for one person to mount but it is managable.
What the best eyepieces for the RC for both planetary and deep sky?
Also what camera do you attach to the RC and how sharp it is.
I just ordered the Ioptron CE70G mount and planning on getting the Orion RC 10” Truss tube. I also ordered the ioptron eFocuser for the RC.
I need all the info l can get from you
Thanks and hoping to hear from you. I will like to see some of the pictures you’ve posted so far.
I do most of my visual visual sessions with my 10" Meade schmidt casagrain with all the way from 26mm for the moon to 10mm for planets and some times more than that if it is a good night for it. And do astro photagraphy with the 10" RC.
@@simeonwelbeck3805 I have the ASI 1600MM pro on a feathertouch focuser with the sesto senso focus motor and really like that setup. Very sharp images.
I'm wanna a iOptron Photron 406mm f/8 Ritchey-Chretien Catadioptric Truss-Tube Telescope
which tripod is good for him?
You might want to look into the iOptron CEM120, I think it has a 120 lb payload capacity. or one of the paramounts by Software Bisque such as the Software Bisque Robotic Paramount MYT Mount - SB10281
If i may know .what is the price of this teleskop now , i want to buy it. Where can it buy it. if in Indonesia it has' nt sold a teleskop like this .please answer friend. I am an amateur astronomer from Indonesia.
I got it directly from Orion telescopes and binoculars. You can go to thier website for current pricing and availability.
new toy
Looks great! I'm looking to get one, although no one has them in stock now. :-( Are you willing to share your CN name so I can contact you? I'm Midnight Dan on CN. I live just outside of Rochester. Are you a member of the local astronomy club, ASRAS?
Hi dkuchta5,
No I am not a member of ASRAS.
I will look you up on CN.
Talk to you later.
Thank you.
Lol all the people asking if the scope is a good scope and I'm sitting here with my skywatcher dob thinking ya that telescope seems pretty good lol
I am pretty satisfied with this setup.
It arrived fully assembled?
Yes, you will have to put on the extension rings on the focuser if you are going to use them, but other than that it was fully assembled.
Annoying music for a good video 😮
I wanted music that was silly sounding and it is definately that. I am a long time musician that performed the funk masters like Parliament Funkadelic, Ohio Players, Brothers Johnson etc. and wanted to do the opposite for a change. :)
Sorry if my question is rude but how much does it cost
A sacrifice
Yes, it's a sacrifice for sure.
How in the heck did you afford that
OK
You forgot the trip from China... Lol
I didn't forget it, My screen wasn't wide enough to stretch that far. :)
Can you see the flag on the moon?
If I were our President I would say yes, But I like telling the truth, so I will so no, me or no one else can see the flag on the moon with any telescope :)
@@zzfactor Unless you and your telescope are also on the moon! I hear the seeing is excellent up there.
zzfactor What a shame you had to spoil your video by this asinine comment about the best president American could have ever asked for in these times of idiots trying to destroy the country.
@zzfactor yeah look around! Have you have ever seen America as peaceful and harmonious as it is now? It's virtually a utopia because of Trump. NOT! (Comment posted January 6th, 2021)
What guide scope
I have the orion ST80 400mm focal length and 80mm objective with a ZWO ASI 129 guide camera. You need to have a very long extension tube with this setup. I got a 2" long extesion tube and a Baader 1.25" screw on eyepiece holder to finish it off. I also devised a bracket/brace because of how long the extension tube is.
The guide scope is not the one in the video, That one is the Meade 70mm quad apo. at over $1000.00 it's overkill. I use the Meade quad apo for what it is made for, a separate telescope system all on its own.
Thanks
Is this RC good for deep sky visual as well as photography.
How often do you have to collimate the RC?
@@simeonwelbeck3805 Yes, with some good eyepieces it is very good. But it is designed for astro photography.