Water Rocket Skateboard (3D Printed)
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When RPM is too high You will get a lot of air trapped inside, submerge the pump in water 1st.
Exactly, even when the battery isn't charged you can see air in the chamber. Liquid pumps need to be primed. It will probably also slow the engine down a bit but I doubt the prints can hold.
Also needs to change the inlet and outlet. The inlet piping does not need to be necked down right at the inlet and the 90 degree bend needs to be have a larger radius, this also causes cavitation as it throttles centrifugal pumps a lot at the inlet. The outlet needs to be longer before the nozzle is put on. All this will increase the pumps efficiency. As long as the water level is higher then the upper most part of the volute is will self prime and air will get pumped out. But he also needs to start it a little slower and potentially give the veins of the impeller a larger radius as well as making it a “semi-open” impeller.
also consider cavitation. look it up.
@@owenreynolds5285 it is all that and more :)
@@marv8481 ALSO: it looks like the elbow to faceplate seal is leaking, so it's not only cavitating, but sucking in air, which is why it was able to WAY overrev, and explode.
"I'M THE MACHIIIIIIINE!!!" - someone on a train during a school trip in Russia, probably
LOL
Top ten videos I've ever watched
I REMEMBER THAT ONE
Great
That’s funny cuz I just saw three videos from Bert recently, what’s that called? Like dejavu but I know there is a word for it
Here for the backwards skateboard
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Penny board lol
he need a bit more pressure, LOL
Wow, I haven't seen you guys on another comment section yet
“60,000 rpm is scaring me” said the man who tests jet engines in his wooden attic.
Full of insulation at that
idk man spinny things are pretty scary
How is this top comment with 2 replys?
@@KeysNoE I don’t know either bud 🤷♂️
idk it could be because you can use a fire extinguisher in case anything happens and stay way, however at 60,000 rpm it can fling anywhere. Also it could fail at any moment.
Water is not that compressable, however, gasses, are. If you have a pressurized cylinder of gas and discharge it into your sealed reservoir, the liquids will be accelerated out at a high velocity. The nozzles can then be optimized to direct that water. FDM nozzles may be better for the pressure than resin ones. They have more give. Do this before you mill something out of metal.
So make a bottle rocket and put it sideways on a skateboard?
@@LewisRawlinson30 more or less. But with more 'Go'.
This is also why working with high pressure fluids with air inside the lines is quite dangerous. If the hose bursts you have a super fast stream of hydraulic fluid coming out and it can and will pierce your skin. Whereas if you have a system with no air and something bursts it’ll just release a small amount of fluid, given that the hoses are not expanded too much.
@@Chevsilverado people cut steel with water jets 😁
@@amalirfan Yeah I’ve seen a couple people who injected themselves with hydraulic fluid accidentally and it’s a very very bad situation. Those hydraulic lines had air in them which made it 100x worse.
“Shitty solution from a shit engineer” HEY THAT’S MY JOB TOO!
obama
Dragster engines be like
15:22
Yeah but the difference is you make ice cream in space and integza doesnt
Just shitty enough to either work or fail interestingly on camera aha
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Your main problem here is that the pump is partially full of air when you turn it on. This creates a lot of bubbles, turbulence, and low and high pressure regions. You could probably get a better kickback if you filled the pump with water completely before you turned it on
yes not properly primed
Also replace the material of the impeller with PAHT CF15 which should be able to withstand much higher stresses and loads, not metal but close enough.
"im gonna ruin this valve because I'm stupid" we've all been there 😂😂
I have 13 years experience in the RC hobby and when you brought out the "monster" motor, I nearly shat myself and thought, "he is gonna hurt himself". Then you did your first test and I was like, "HOW TF IS IT NOT BLOWING UP?!?" then you charged your battery lol!
2,000 watts, THAT'S MORE POWER THEN 5 RTX 3090s!
@@ThePower1037 that's insane
@@ThePower1037 2000 watts is the same as 10 Olympic size swimming pools
I was also wondering how much time until the engine get water inside and break. But.....
@@ThePower1037 my RC has 3600w motor. You should see the panic at hardware store when you ask for connector capable of 900A lol. For reference 13A is max for anything in a UK house
You legit could be the first person in history to machine a tomato...
@Integza Some ideas to make this a bit more effective:
1: A slower, higher torque motor might actually be appropriate here. If you look at your footage inside the centrifugal pump, you see a lot of bubbles, these are probably due to cavitation, which is robbing you of output pressure.
2: Your impeller appears to be backwards.
3: You probably want your impeller to get closer to the walls of the pump.
It only seems to explode when air gets into the system, maybe increase flow or pressure into the inlet of the motor? Maybe put the motor acrylic side up and mount the reservoir directly above it, i think that might be the easiest way to increase intake pressure. Cavitation will prolly still occur at high speed tho so idk 😅
no it is not air it is water vapour, due to cavitation because of poor designed impeller
Or use metal to give more structural strength
Idea : Try to make an actual combustion piston engine when you learn to cut metal on the CNC
I don't think that cnc will cut Metall
love the idea but it would be ridiculously hard
@jacobzzz698 retardedef gamer how he died bro?
@jacobzzz698 retardedef gamer i took one apart this weekend for that reason
Nice pfp perkele!
Now attach it to a camel pack for extreme hydration
**radicalized hydration begins**
@@THESLlCK *DRAWING AND LAKES BEGINS*
@@Gabe-cobalt **flooding of the sahara begins**
look up the naiper deltic powered pump-role firetruck
that would do it
@@THESLlCK I’ve heard about napiers monster engines so I’m gonna assume that’s a big boi
@Slick Mike What the heck? I think the tomato guy deleted my comment before because it was racist lol xD
Future video theme: instead of using liquid fuel or solid fuel, you should use a semi-solid fuel/ slurry like coal-water slurry, which is just a bunch of fine coal particles suspended in water, and is highly combustible.
*in ethanol
Petition for integza to combine all his projects to create a machine that squishes tomatoes
The board being backwards killed me!!!🤣🤣🤣🔥🔥🔥✌️
then how did u write this comment
Idea: Now that you've started pumping water around, built a waterjet addon for your CNC machine.
Theme - You can build a multi fuel engine or rocket you can even use combination of different kind of fuel. And launch a 🍅 tomato 😁😁
You know had seen a couple of your older videos and i wasn't really sure how much i liked them. But now you're one of my favorite engineering channels the amount of effort you're putting in your videos is really amazing and you have really found your stride man. Congrats
Integza, As you have such a high speed motor, how about getting some old hard drives and using the discs inside to make a Tesla turbine.
What does that tesla turbine have to do with that high-speed motor?
@@TIGFab97 A tesla turbine can be used as a pump, at extremely high speed, and has far less risk of explosion through impeller failure.
@@TIGFab97 Tesla turbines are efficient at high speeds.
@@wibblywobblyidiotvision oh I see. But would it work like a pump?
@@TIGFab97 in short, yes. It just won't be able to create a lot of head pressure, so there's quite a limit on how tight the nozzle can be without losing significant amounts of efficiency.
I feel like this engine would work a lot better for a boat. Infinite reservoir of water
so a jet ski?
Some boats do just that actually.
Well, if you put this in a boat and put the turbine underwater without the chamber then you get a regular boat motor 😁
Also have you seen how the jetski works?
my fav cut from this build montage is the perfect angle CG to printer bed, it was amazing! good job!
Gotta love engineers. Buys high end motor, proceeds to connect it to skateboard with hilariously inefficient and impractical delivery of power.
11:16 It should work rotating the valve 90 degrees, so the handle on the side.
Hahaha, too late though, wonder if Integza thought that himself but didn't admit it to us? 🤔😏
"This is not a motor; this is a monster."
*Ad for Monsters at Work plays*
It's cool how he has his family helping him make these videos
Centrifugal force is a construct, and the fact you called it "not a force" makes me smile so much. Thank you!!!!
anatomy of an integza joke: Well worded scientific explanation of how things work followed by example meme. its the reason i subbed! juxtapostion humor is best humor
Now that you have a CNC, I feel like revisiting the turbojet is worth a try
You need a MUCH bigger inlet to your pump to reduce cavitation. Also make the nozzle longer to help facilitate more laminar flow of the water.
This video helps figure out a couple ideas for a water jet board for traveling up the local river
Video idea: Make a machine that throws tomatoes at high speed, and put it on a skateboard. You will have a skateboard powered by evil
I second this idea
I motion the idea as well
Idea for next jet engine: Scramjets or Ramjets.
Those things don't really work below the speed of sound, so you couldn't really make a video out of them, as you can't use them in any kind of project, unfortunately. "Here's a 3D-print of a ramjet. It looks nice. The end."
@@IT-koneDang, didn't know that. Me boi gotta make a whole supersonic jet now XD
@@IT-kone they do! Ramjets actually stop working at the speed of sound. They work pretty nice even at around 300-400 kph. You could probably make a low speed ramjet even to work at like... 100kph or something. Still fast but you could at least test it out.
Video idea : You should build a small submarine and see if you can shoot rockets underwater. Because underwater footages are always cool and torpedoes too !
I love the enthusiasm from your videos!
Video idea - do a collaboration with electroBOOM and build a 3D PRINTED AC MOTOR
do a Collab with electrobooms mum...
Video idea: make a "tomato-gun", powered by your engine or pump.
Shoot the tomatos at tomatos
@@yesiamachicken888 Wait... but wouldn't that mean hat he uses tomatos to do something good even when tomatos itself are bad?
@@5Breaker Tomatos will get squished and thats all that matters right?
@@yesiamachicken888 But you're still "using" tomatoes. Would be another story if you use a potato to shoot tomatoes.
@@5Breaker Yeah good point
You do a good job with 3D printing I can't see anyone else doing as good job as you do keep it up you do a good job
I love this. The inefficiency here is staggering. A 2,000 watt motor and you could piss faster than that water moves. You are really choking your pump with the inlet pipe being way to small. Eventually you should make a proper pumpjet! That would be awesome.
Video idea: Let's go on with micro! Print a 3D microfluidic TESLA valve and lets see how it works.
By the way, from less important to crucial;
* You should change the propeller design.
* You can increase the thicknesses to avoid fails.
* You must increase the downstream length and decrease the diameter of the nozzle. So that you can have a smooth flow. (remember what you were holding in your hand at the begining of the video).
* You must be sure of filling the pump with water totally before running. Otherwise, this will be a demonstration of what happens when you run your pump with two phase flow (gas and liquid).
Idea: Make an air powered motor, kind of like the one Tom Stanton made, which has an air pump instead of compressed air so that it can run for longer
Seems like a motor with extra steps
wasted energy, input energy always higher than output.
motor already rotation, why convert rotation to rotation?
Id honestly like to see this redone, with a more efficient design and a lower power motor, I feel like that would be the key to your success. Also better sealing of all intake area to reduce air binding would be incredibly helpful and a longer nozzle to allow the pump to build head pressure.
The impeller's design is what is causing it to break, not the speed. Your blades are perpendicular to the incoming water, so you're pretty much just 'slapping' the water 3000 times per second as it enters the pump. You're also creating a lot of cavitation (imploding bubbles behind the blade) which eats your blade away.
Angle the blades at the centre of the impeller, so it scoops instead of slaps, and then gradually let it straighten out as you go to the outside and to the bottom. Also, build the impeller blades on a cone instead of a straight shaft. The bottom centre part of the impeller is't going to do much work, so you're better off using that space to smoothen the flow.
Video Idea: Cold casting: a long time I saw few videos on TH-cam regarding casting a resin part using silicon moulds, the fun part was that they were using steel powder mixed with the epoxy resin so the final product was a "metal like" part which later on they sand it and apply acid so the model looked rusted. I search alot on TH-cam and was not able to find any scientific test on this method, what are the propreties of this type of material ? are they magnetic ? can it conduct electricity ? are the mechanical proprieties similar to steel ? and finally: what temperature can it handle ?. The ideia is: 1 - to print a 3d model. 2 - make a silicon mould using this model. 3 - create a mixture of epoxy resin and steel powder (20/80 for example) 4 - cast this mixture in the mould and test the final product. I had this idea watching your videos and all the times you use the porcelain resin, to be honest I don't think will work for temperatures above 500ºC because the highiest temperature resin that I found was around that. Never the less all the others possible proprieties are very interessing, being able to "print" metal parts seems very interessting. Hopefully someone will read this comment, If you read until here please forgive my english since is not my mother language and let me know what you think about this idea, i really wanted to test by myself and record the process but I don't have the tools (aka 3D printer). Leave a like if you think it's a good idea and hopefully Integza see and make a video for us.
Use the water to make a rocket using high-pressure gas at the back with the force it out with more speed instead of a pump.
I would have to agree with ya on this 1! Good idea!!!!!
Nice welds in your profile pic
i like the way you present the work :)
Try to use a closed impeller with the nozzles in a small diameter (outlet smaller than inlet). Always install centrifugal pumps drowned, to get some water pressure and not cavitate.
Rarely do I click as fast as when Integza posts!
14:45 how fast I click on Integza videos
Im not going to like this comment because its at 69 likes
Nevermind its at 71 now
@@2MeterLP you can like mine
feast for the entire soul
A lot of the pumps energy was wasted due to air being on the pump. It needs to be properly primed first.
I'd say more energy was wasted by rapid unscheduled disassembly.
and centrifugal pump just for moving a lot gasses/liquids, not for pressures
Actually, I think the pump would work better if the impeller was horizontal, so the water would not have to flow "up hill" to fill part of the pymp housing ... fwiw
Even if the pump was primed there is still a good chance cavitation would happen. He needs to have higher pressure coming into the pump. Raise the water up or increase air pressure on top of it to increase the NPSHa.
Priming a centrifugal pump is required only when the pump is above water level. In this case, that's not true, so priming isn't needed or more accurately it was already primed. Cavitation did happen tho, because of the bad design.
you can put the water jet on a boat so that the intake will be under the boat in the water and the output will be behind the boat in the water :)
I think you should revisit this topic. Take a look on how a turbo impeller is designed. You can get more structural support on your blades by adding a plate close to the motor side and if you put the blade on a diagonal you could get more thrust out of a less powerful motor.
"good thing you had your protective glasses."
"they were on my forehead."
If you were in the US, OSHA would be proud 😂
come with me. and you'll see, a whole world of osha violations.
Video idea: Buy a lawnmower and try to make a car using it's engine.
And he could add tutbocharger or smt else.
Push or riding?
@@Pockets4507 I think push, because it's cheaper and it also has some power
this is such a great idea
and now a lesson about "cavitation" :D
yeah xd
"With great power comes great design"
-- Probably every DIY person including Integza
Video Idea: Put a water jet on one side of the skateboard and a jet engine on the other and have them push against each other to see which is has more thrust.
Idea: Strap a high power laser to a CNC/3D printer and see if you can cut a 2x4!
Back in the 60's my Dad, who was an Air Force pilot, one of the handful assigned to the first jet fighter squadron established after WW II, found and bought a toy water rocket kit for me. You filled a hard plastic rocket shaped (fins and all) cylinder half way up with water. Then you attached it with a slide lock to a very simple hand air pump. It did seal well, so that you could pump air into the cylinder without it leaking out, then slide the lock back and it would jet into the air. It was amazingly good at this.
Video idea: Make a boat that uses the tesla turbine in reverse so it propels the boat forward, this can be done by submerging the bottom half of the disks in water.
I'd love to see this as a boat, using the water it travels on rather than have water stored.
I believe jet skis use that concept
@@Ixidora they do
You mean like a thrust motor for a boat......
So a jetski 😂
It’s called a jet drive
for higher pressure use a positive displacement pump
Lol it's funny how you used an RPG in the animation, since the grenade, as the name says (Rocket Propelled Grenade) is propelled by a rocket and the launcher is just there to aim it and set it off, so it wouldn't have recoil.
12:20 Oh, that made a part of my heart just cringe seeing the electronics right below the hose. XD
I feel your pain, mate!
Theme: Try and make something, an engine or something using Strain wave gearing! Strain wave gearing is super weird and amazing,
"Strain wave gearing is a type of mechanical gear system that uses a flexible spline with external teeth, which is deformed by a rotating elliptical plug to engage with the internal gear teeth of an outer spline"
I would not be surprised if that type of gearing had a 5 second life expectancy lol
@@trufortune6771 its actually not that bad. If I'm correct, another name for it is a harmonic drive. Its actually a decent solution for certain robots because it can't be backdriven and offers a really high gear reduction.
Not sure if anyone of u noted but the motor doesnt spin the right way (the blades are oppositely aligned) and so the water comes out since the water has to go out anyway as the box has much more water and has high level as compared to the motor so nly the water comes and it comes fast as it is inside mixing ...if the blade is turned right then it will work
Like if this is right and anyone noticed the same
Theme for future video: make a 3D printer using a 3D printer.
Now just add a servo under the jet to make a Fully drivable rc water jet car
I think a fantastic Idea could be re-visiting this project in the sense of a benchmark system for trying new ways to strengthen prints. I'd love to see something like this succeed with printing!
I love watching your vid there not boring there fun and it’s fun to learn
What’s interesting is on the first design you had a small intake on the first design which is why you didn’t get the flow out put.
Well I think you should go even more simple with the “throwing stuff for propulsion” and make a catapult or cannon powered skateboard. The catch: the projectiles are tomatoes (of course).
12:36
Ah, I see you're a man of culture as well.
THE ULTIMATE JET ENGINE INVENTION!!!!! A generator in the center, and the jet engine on a rotary arm, going in circles to power the generator. (Much kewler than an internal combustion generator!!!)
You can look up the best speed and feed rates for the materials you want to cutt. You also have to take into consideration the diameter and number of cutting teeth to help figure out the correct rates. Should be able to do this for literally everything
I really like the song (Walking Around by Eldar Kedem) that you used for the interlude. This is the second time I've added songs you use to my playlist. I suggest you add info in the description about the music you use.
i dont have ideia who you are but you just saved me from having a sleepless night trying to make the brainless dumb google find the damn song...love you mate s2
Masquerade the Musketeer I suggest using Shazam instead of the stupid google thing.
Video idea:
Since you seem to love rotating forces, let's exploit the momentum.
Build a gimbal with 2 rotating disks shifted by 90 degrees (X and Z axis stabilization) and use their momentum to cancel the vibration induced by the camera operator.
Good job you made a land water jet. Boats use it for sometimes more speed than any propeller could produce
I just discovered your channel! You are doing great things! Subbed.
I thought he was going to make a dirty joke when he said there's alot of different types of pumps 🤣
"Powerful pumping action"
_Phrasing!_
Nice video bro love it
I love your content!! Keep making more
Video idea: 3D print an air raid siren! After hearing the 3d printed water jet, you could easily modify an impeller to make a siren!
I think its just the motor making the sound
Thingiverse has one on the best of all time page
Well... You said it.
*"can CNC metal"*
Guess you got to revisit this pump after you figure that out!
or just cast it from aluminium, that would make an interesting video
If you redo the impeller with a back wall (disk with vanes growing from it :-) it'll be stronger. You can make the vanes thicker toward the back, too, so they'll be stronger where they attach to the disk. If you _really_ want water out the back, use a venturi: Let the pump push out water into the venturi nozzle, and it'll suck even more water into narrow part. More water out the nozzle means more reaction force.
Maybe some sort of stator in the nozzle would make the water jet more efficient. It seems to be throwing water in a lot of directions that aren't straight back.
Try making a steam-powered car!
Have a boiler, that feeds into a turbine, which then powers the wheels.
Ya know....this was done over 100 years ago...nice idea and would love to see again honestly
video idea: using 4 jet engines to make a hovering platform (similar to a quadcopter!)
Nice idea!
He only took idea of hovering jet ski name is fly board , I know this engine before 😀 never thought to make a vedio 💩
Turn the rotor/impeller around so that the fins arch the other way. This will make the impeller more aggressive, drawing the water in and forcing it out much faster.
Thanks!
I have no idea how this thanks thing works...
Project Idea: "I think you should make bicycles running using small jet engine". I hope you will make it...✌🏻
Look up Colin Furze, he did this and it turnt out very cool!
He already did
Video idea: make an RC boat using the water propelling pump!
many boats already do that
@@davidjacobsen5898 Yes they do
This is how jet skis work! :)
Add a bell nozzle to better control expansion and hence increase efficiency
this would be so funny integza would make such a good video
try creating a turboprop engine fueled off of propane,
especially now that you have a CNC machine to create metal parts
Video idea:
Build a drone to film some sick shots of your diy rockets🚀
Idea: 3D print a gearbox for that monster so you can create some high torque! Might need to use your CNC to make some aluminium gears though for the high torque end...
Love this channel