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Here are four modifications we would never do on one of our two Land Rover Discoverys. Hope you enjoy the video and thanks for watching,
Vera & Christian ,
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Christian and Vera what would we do at the weekends without your fantastic entertainment and knowledge , and great German humour))) ❤️😊🇬🇧
😊🙏🙋♀️Vera
As an engineer myself, I love it when Christian starts explaining how everything works down to the smallest details! Haha
Amazing video as usual, I really think the air suspension (along with many other features) is what makes the LR3 and LR4 the standouts of the crowd.
My dream is to own a LR3 someday! Wish me luck!
😃👍 I hope you watched yesterdays video before you actually buy one. 🙋♀️Vera
@@Vera_and_Christian ah thank you very much! I will check it out!
My first thought was
" *OMG* ! A ZERO OMG episode!!"
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Then there was one in the outtakes! ☹️
The next video will have more OMG than I would like to admit. 😅👍🙋♀️Vera
Great content as always, your son Robin is a very talented blacksmith, he's got his Dads attention to detail.
Agree, his ‘Smithing’ is excellent 👌🏻
Hi Guys, I write this at 8:42 in the video because I didn't want to forget - re the air suspension there are pro-active maintenance areas to help avoiding trouble:
1. Replace the nylon piston ring in the compressor every 2 years to ensure that pumping is in tiptop order. Cost £ 15 and easy to do;
2. Clean and lubricate the ride height sensors every year - cost 30 mins and some spray cleaner/lube;
3. Re air springs, every year put vehicle in full height and using a spray bottle full of soapy water, spray all round each air spring to check for leaks and rubber perishing. DO THIS BEFORE you have a problem to avoid time off the road.
Hey David, do you have a DIY how this can be done ?
I recently became an owner of a LR3, when started the air compressor works for some time even though the car does not seem to have changed how it stands, after running, a loud PSHH is being fired up as if it is a real truck, respectively shortly after I park, car seems to lower different wheels trying to maintain equal level I suppose (I park it on a 2% steep ramp), so with the above info I'd rather check these before running into air compressor problems :)
what do you lube the sensor with?
Any videos on replacing the nylon piston ring? Thanks for the advice!
@@SavoyPrimeable This might be it; th-cam.com/video/w_ezq-twb0g/w-d-xo.html
Don't forget to replace the air filter on the compressor inlet (rear compartment) My suspension is all original >150K miles.
But if you trade up to a new Defender 110 you actually get Apple Carplay and Android Auto also, not just DAB+👍 And they have still kept the classic LR options like limp mode, bad hair day, break-down-o-matic so you still have a great hobby.😁👍
yes that is true, but we would be 85000€ poorer. I'd rather do stick with our 40€ option. 😅🙃🙋♀️Vera
@@Vera_and_Christian Yes, i agree. The pricing on the new Defender is ridiculous, they are moving towards the G-Wagen territory.
🤣 read it a story at bedtime. Great advice!
Love your humor Christiaan . Keep up the good work 🤘
Brilliant ! loved your video , two veeeery cool Landys.
Cant believe I don't even own a LR (own a evoque) but still love watching you guys esp the enthusiasm of the LR's and knowledge you share. I absolutely love the LR3 and 4 would love to own one
Another great episode. Thanks to you guys, I am now buying a LR3 on friday, driving 60miles to get it home. Hopefully you continue to make awsome, technical videos for me to use while doing maintenance on my new car. :)
That is a good time to hook up a OBDii diagnostic tool. That way you learn the most about your new car. And then you also need to watch our "15 things you don't know about your LR3..." video. 😃👍🙋♀️Vera
@@Vera_and_Christian Oh, I've seen it several times already. :) I've also ordered a GAP Iid tool BT, supposedly one of the better diagnostic tools for the LR3 and LR4.
The LR3 with the square lights looks the best, it’s the same for the early L322, the square lights look much better than the later lights. The proportions of the square lights suit the boxy shape better and more timeless.
My question is, what is the headlight description for the LR3? I've been looking for them with no luck on the internet and I don't want to go directly to LR.
@@jeremyacevedo6592 they don't sell them anymore cuz there so ugly haha kidding!
Glad to own a 2006 LR3...love it !
It‘s the best. Have you checked that your Disco has the upgraded oilpump yet. If not, check out the videos in our „Engine Oil and Oilpump“ playlist.👍🙋♀️
@@Vera_and_Christian Great I'll check..thanks for the info..cheers!!
1 - 0:38 Air Suspension
2 - 13:33 Upgrade style to LR4 - in regards of Discovery 3
3 - 17:30 Engine mapping
4 - 20:57 Engine swap
😅👍🙏Thanks, sometimes there is just not enough time to get it all done. 🙋♀️Vera
I totally agree with you about the air suspension. It’s the best part of the vehicle. Other vehicles try to put air system and fail. Not the lr4, t’s a very solid system.
Eure Videos sind Klasse! Lebe in Dubai und bin selbst LR3/4 Bastler mit 3 Fahrzeugen in der Familie.
💪😃Super, das ist ja cool. 🙋♀️Vera
@@Vera_and_Christian Bin auch interessiert an Austausch. Ich schicke Euch mal ne Email.
@@McUser1965 Ja klar, gerne, mach das. 👍🙋♀Vera
Thank you guys .
*_Dont mess with your engine mapping because when (not if) it dies you will feel you caused it_* may be the best advice i heard on this channel.
Lol, did I really say it this way 😂 Christian
@@Vera_and_Christian i corrected 1 typo. And apart the _not if_ it is a quote of you. I really laughed. Makes so much sense in any engineering endavour.
Love you guys!
We'll Done you both are the Best, you have given me confidence again in my DISCOVERY 4❤, Keep up the good work i love your videos.
Absolutely brilliant Christian and Vera..Great advice 👍
You have convinced me not to remap. Totally agree with comments on the air suspension. Thanks for the video.👍
Hey Vera and Christian, I look forward to seeing you each week, LandRover should sponsor you, you're such loyal ambassadors for the brand.
Heaven knows they've put you through lots of work for your passion, but then that's what LandRovers do, they're "interesting" vehicles.
Good morning, Christian & Vera.
Very entertaining again,and Robin is a craftsman for sure👏
Excellent !
Thanks everything you say makes sense . Keep up the good work
Thank you.
Great video as always guys!
Excellent
Once again superb knowledge & Sunday entertainment.
Fantastic video, a lot of good information. You two make my weekend TH-cam watching much better! Thanks for sharing!
Another great video thanks guys!
As allways thanks for the information
You both are great, thank you
Fantastic
Fantastic video guys, and I don't even own a Discovery unless 1/32 version counts. Mega interesting information and so entertaining. And Robin is so talented. Incredible metal work :-)
Great video, love the discussions on the air bag system. I came across a random issue from previous repairs on a mall crawler, it had got a epb module at some stage and one of the cables was making light contact with one of the air pipes which put a practically invisible pine hole on it which was only findable with a smoke tester and luminous die…..! It had got a suspension pump but was still logging random faults if ever the vehicle was loaded up!
The James May of LR TIME. I love it! Great Video guys.
I love your channel, you guys are great!!!! very fun, informative and entertaining. Thank you for sharing.
Love your video entertaining and informative and agree with your points
Always have preferred amber/yellow indicators front, side and rear.
Keep up the good work.
Your comment/criticisms are valid because you always present a valid view, based on experience!
For that, there is NO substitute!
Keep up the great work Christian & Vera...
It's always a highlight to see, because you put so much passion into what you do.
Just bought a D4. Loving your videos!
Hi Vera and Christian, I have received my LRTIME stickers thank you 😊 Nigel
Awesome video as always. Better than any T.V. Program for decade’s. Just the best, thank you 🙏👍
You guys are the coolest..I agree with you on all those things..The Disco 4 when you see it from the front reminds me the range rover but the disco 3 looks just like the unique beautiful monster it is and nothing out there looks like it..
Thanks for another great video, I totally agree with Christian something that makes a Land Rover 3 or 4 is the Air suspension and I would never replace it either. Stay safe and warm.
Greetings from LRFans in Costa Rica 🎉🎉🎉
I couldn’t agree more on the air suspension, it is a magnificent feature also improving the ride quality. My disco 4 is now 10 years old and have never had a failure of the system. Love your videos from South Africa
Brilliant 🤩
Thanks for the forward brilliant explanation/lecture.
Classic, watching Vera climb on top of the bumper to close the hood ("bonnet") on her LR3!
Brilliant , i am looking forward to seeing the gow plug video ,my mechanic does not want to touch them in my 2004 discovery 3 in case they snap .
another great video from LR TIME. I'm looking to buy a 'mall crawler' Discovery4 myself and your videos are some of the best to show the reality of ownership. It hasn't put me off buying one either. Keep up the great work :)
That is so great. If you make sure that you know more that car than the previous owner, you will be so happy with your purchase. 😃👍🙋♀️Vera
I completely agree on Christian’s point on fitting Discovery 4 parts to a Discovery 3, and ‘de-tangoing’ the lights. They look great as standard, and to the trained eye a D3 made to look newer is so obvious. Keep up the great work!
Excelent vídeo as always.....🤙🤙💯
Thanks! great content I enjoy your channel very much keep up the great work,
Love you guys, you’re so funny and entertaining. Regards from Costa Rica
Exactly, cant agree more about air suspension... best part of Discovery. and with xlifter the sleeping is amazing.
Love your videos... keep it up. but looking forward to hearing you say,, "we'll be back"
A very interesting video, again! I have the 2010 LR4 and every 4-6 weeks it warns me of a low battery. Apparently, if the car is used on short/medium runs, the battery doesn't fully charge. I Googled this and I think it was on the Disco3 Forum that a Ctek charger was recommended for charging. I bought one and give it a charge every 6 weeks or so. The 'Mall Crawler' is a great name for the LR4, in the UK any 4x4 SUV is referred to as a 'Chelsea tractor', Chelsea being an upper class area in London 😉. Well done for another great video, you two are fantastic! Also, Robin is a very talented metal worker 👍
That is some nice metal work by your son 👍👍👍👍
Great video guys as always. I love the personalised reg / number plates you have "DIRT"....awesome. I've had my LR4 for over 12 months now since upgrading from an LR3 and 'people' still tell me all the time that I'm going to have soooo many problems with the air suspension. LOL (So far so good, fingers crossed)
Like we said, problems are most likely caused by those who own and neglect, or working on those cars. If you take good care of your Disco, everything will be just fine. 👍😃🙋♀️Vera
Fab video as always..
Love this. Am gradually working my way through your videos. I laughed at the start of this with your reference to warmth in Australia. That's where i am. Keep up the good work. I was a D3 owner for 8 years and 350Ks and now a 2012 Disco 4 with 250K. Loved them both but the D4 is a much better vehicle that the D3 in my opinion. Thank you.
This episode made my day 🤣
I like Christian's sense of humor
I’m a Toyota owner (I have two of them in the garage) you both crack me up. Great videos.
Funny, as of last week my discovery 3 is sitting in lowest position. Panicking that it is going to cost me a fortune considered coil springs but watching this has changed my mind and given me hope. putting it in to garage this week to diagnose the problem (local independent specialist with great reputation not a lr dealer) I would love to fix myself but lack of tools and equipment I think this is one for the garage.
I retrofitted the Boge Hydromat self-leveling hydraulic strut to my coil-sprung Land Rover Discovery 300tdi. It always kept the same ride height, no matter what weight I was towing or what weight I was carrying inside the car. Fantastic piece of kit. Sadly, I no longer own it. It was more fun to drive than the Discovery 4 I owned after it.
I totally agree with every point you make.
I would like to see a video about your auxiliary battery set up.
Here you can see our setup th-cam.com/video/0vXlsoNRJD8/w-d-xo.html 😃👍🙋♀️Vera
Fully agree on all four subjects. Never change an already winning team😋
Thanks again for the weekly videos they are essential watching for me and u am looking forward to the maintenance on the D3 Inc oil pump and belts etc. Great work from Robin too and also jealous of the log pile lol 😁
Coming up next, we already did the work, but need to finish editing the footage. 😃👍🙋♀️Vera
Hello Christian & Vera, I agree with all the items you said you would not modify on a Discovery 3 & 4. Apart from maintenance & repairs, which are unavoidable, I prefer to spend my money on functional items in/on my vehicle. Most of these items are purely personal preference, however they have a use, a purpose. Some items have the additional bonus of adding visual appeal, most do not. They look good in that the workmanship is good, but they are first and foremost functional for my intended use. Keep up the great videos & comments.
You mentioned the temperature in Australia, A few days ago in Brisbane it was 28°C (82°F) at 9.00pm! Thank goodness for air conditioning. I can't wait to see snow. I have only seen it once. Maybe this year.
I miss the ride on my LR3 since buying the X5 although it has rear air bags the comfort of the LR exceeds the X5 plus it is not so easy to get in and out your spot on, l did however once have a complete air suspension failure on a new 3 months old LR vehicle - a pot holed farm track the culprit LR tried to blame me for miss treating the vehicle! Another entertaining video guys. Sorry Christian l had my 3 remapped and it was noticeable immediately quicker off the mark and l certainly got more mpg.
Another wonderful video you two! The gist of it is leave your Disco alone, just maintain it... I must admit I did chip mine and subsequently took it out when it misbehaved, beware. Disappointed the Disco 4 travel is less than the 3, didn't know that.
Totally agree with your points and here’s what I did!
Had a lovely D3 Tdv6 se for 7 years which was a great car but I sold it!
So I bought a Defender 110 Td5 which is fantastic!
And 6 months ago I bought a D4 V8 5.0 litre which I highly recommend!
And an update on the 1977 petrol engine series 3 the rebuild is a success and love this car to bit’s as I do all my LandRover fleet all definitely different and awesome to drive!
I love your sons metal work that is fantastic!
Regards
Toby
Hi Christian and Vera another brilliant video you’re very correct about the suspension I had to replace the ECU for the air suspension thank you for the help and a new compressor when buying a compressor don’t buy the cheap ones there are only two but you should have Hitachi or Dunlop the other makes maybe a lot cheaper but the pressure they work up is lower so the pump works harder what I’m saying just buy the good ones which will cost you around £400 but saying that I also need a set of valves at the front catch up with you next week keep safe. John 😁🇬🇧👍
Guy's thank you so much for your channel - I live in Brisbane Australia, I am 52 and have just bought my very first LR.....it is a 2005 Discovery 3 HSV V8. I've been told it is relativly rare here in Aus with only 100 being exported to Australia. I bought it very cheap and as such it needs a lot of love, so I will be needing and loving every single video you have ever made :) Thank you so much, you both are a lovely couple.
Very well done. Pay attention to the timing chain tensioner and guide. That is the Achilles of this engine. Otherwise bullet prove. Christian
Love you videos, thanks for the effort! I didn't known that it lowers down on high speed, but did you know that when you are in the highest position and you get stuck, you push the brakes, try to lower it down, the ECU see that the car is not lowering, and then you can lift the car an extra 1" if i remember correctly:) anyway your videos make me think about coming back to LR!! Thank you for the content!!!
Love today's video - Jeeps are getting to be just as sensitive with the check engine light as the LR's. I am constantly running a scan tool to check what sensor is at fault, plus we have the biodegradable wiring harness that doesn't like the southwestern US heat so they get very brittle - I think this is the main cause for sensor failures. So now I am looking at dealerships for an LR3 to own as they can't be any worse to own. :)
Oh yeah, also watch out for brittle cables. Even we had to replace a lot of looms yesterday , Sarah-n-tuned style. 👍🙋♀️Vera
Agreed on all 4 points, can I add that you don’t need to re paint your alloys dark grey or black on your D3. Original silver is perfectly cool.
Totally agree, the Discovery 3 is great the way it is, my 16 year old example is giving great service at 200k miles even if I do have to trough huge amounts on it!
Omg.. totally agree with everything you said.. air suspension probably the best feature. Shame they didnt make the tdv6 more long lived and easier to maintain though. 180k miles on my V8 gas engine and no issues. However, I am very envious of the lower fuel consumption and longer range of the tdv6.
Morning Vera & Christian. I just love your channel about LR discovery’s 😂 I love the fact that your German and work on an English vehicle lol 😆 I always compare German manufacturing as the best in the world 🌎 I drove my lorry many times in Germany 🇩🇪 delivering and collecting parts for different medical company’s especially Siemens MRI scanners to Erlangen. The magnets were built in the U.K. in Oxford then finish off in Erlangen. So we used to say born in England 🏴 but built in Germany by the experts 😀 The factory was on the old US air base so they had a lot of skilled workers on hand 🤣 Take care chopping your wood 🪵 as with gas prices you’ll need it 👍🏻 Cheers Stevie. 😘 for Vera x
I do like the auto folding mirrors on the LR4
I know my LR4 isn't the most reliable, but I have so much fun with it, and it fits all dogs and kids! Would I want the AS to not be that finicky? Yes. Does it make me want to swap it in for a sensible vehicle? No.
I agree on the air suspension. It's magic! My Disco 3 has a height sensor issue and the ecu threatens to slow down but doesn't (thankfully!) I'm waiting on a Foxwell NT510 to diagnose and then also calibrate the new sensor. I changed the front air struts after 250k.
You 2 are funny. 🥂 learned a lot from your videos too, I don’t have a discovery but I might get one eventually.
One below 150t km or a V8… 👍 Christian
I traded my dirt bike for an LR3 with the 4.4 v8. It supposedly had bad head gaskets. Turns out it just had a broken thermostat housing. I was really excited about that but the bad news is someone had already made the switch to coil spring. I want to go back to air bags eventually.
I have replaced the air suspension in my l320 with coil springs. Mainly for off road and it tows a lot nicer. I did it years ago and I’m happy I did! It may be a sin but I love it!
Robins obviously a chip off the old block. Fantastic work Robin 👍
Totally agree about modifying or mapping the engine. You want more power go buy something different. Or just buy the V8 version of the disco. I have had 2 discos. The first a 3 with the V6 4L petrol. A great engine, very responsive, plenty of power and cheap to maintain. Unfortunately also a rather thirsty engine at an average of 16L/100Km. We now have an MY12 disco 4 with the 2.7L V6 diesel. Plenty of power we just miss the punch when pulling from a standstill the petrol had. Keep up the great videos guys
Agree, the air suspension is brilliant, would never remove this. The low and high ride heights are very handy. But also concede, it's a system you need to stay on top of, replaced my compressor at year 10.
Robin needs to do his own channel. Love your videos
Was naming it a Disco, tongue-in-cheek humour, on account of all the coloured flashing dashboard lights?
You Discovery everyday something new, good or bad. 😅👍 We believe that name is the best fit for this car. 🙋♀️Vera
VERA calling tires bad azz hysterical funny stuff mall crawler giggles aplenty changing mapping on a diesel is foolhardy in this case no real benefit can be gained you are spot on Christian
Anther great video !! You should upload more !!
😃👍 Thanks, but Christian works full time, and a single video costs a lot of money, and time.
Unfortunately our channel is not growing to justify spending more money and time per week on video. We can barely manage one video a week. 🙋♀️Vera
That was so funny this week , i was wetting myself laughing .
Christian and Vera my wife is jealous of all the logs you have gathered . My wife has the Range Rover Sport 3.6 TDV8 , which she has now renamed " Hall Crawler " , posh Range Rover owners in the UK that usually live in a 30 bedroom mansion house estates .or " Halls ".
Looking forward to the glow plug video so i can do mine on my 2005 Discovery 3 ....
I think by far the best upgrade you can do to a Discovery , is to put a LR Time sticker on it... Graeme
😅 That is a good one. Another viewer referred to it as a "Chelsea Tractor", haven't heard both names yet. Mall Crawler comes definitely from our US influenced TH-cam videos, we watch. I really hope you'll get it soon because I mailed it already. If not, write me again and you'll get a new one. International mail does take longer, I once received a letter that was on it's way for 3 weeks.👍🙋♀️Vera
@@Vera_and_Christian Rich footballers and Russians that live in Chelsea drive big flash 4×4 SUV's , that will never be driven in mud or snow ....BMW X5 X6 & similar are "Chelsea Tractors " . Toyota's are called " Tali Wagons " , because the Taliban use them LOL 😂😂
Yeah hopefully my sticker will come this week . I had an idea for Christian and his " What do you need this for " , he could 3d print some LR TIME Logo wheel cap centres for your alloys .... Graeme
Great video thanks and yes I would like to see a video on your dab radio 🙂
Great video, thanks for answering the very important question of replacing air suspension! I want to take my car to Morocco and Portugal and always get told that the air suspension is too unreliable.. My own experience is that LR dealerships are very quick to provide a wrong diagnosis, often to their advantage, and a simple relay replacement costs you hundreds!
Absolutely right. I always tell people who want to buy a Discovery 3, or 4, you got to know more about that car than everyone else. The airsuspension is what makes a Discovery a Discovery. 👍🙋♀️Vera