Yamaha Raptor 700R vs YFZ450R Shootout. Which is Best for You?
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With the 2017 hitting the market, Yamaha looks to continue dominating the sport segment with their YFZ450R, Raptor 700R, Raptor 90, and all-new YFZ50. Meanwhile, the other manufacturers have tucked their tails and run, suffering from a lack of sales due to varying reasons such as releasing machines three years too late, an economic recession, attacks from the EPA, and, finally, for trying to continue selling 10-year-old machines at ever increasing prices. If you want to buy one of the top sport ATVs on the market these days, it’s going to be a Yamaha. The Raptor 700R is a great trail machine that can play on the MX track.
The YFZ450R is a nearly race-ready motocrosser that comes setup from the factory to also perform on the trail. If you’re a motocross racer, choosing the right machine is simple: buy the YFZ450R, add a few parts, and go racing. If you are a recreational rider, choosing the right machine between the two could be a bit more perplexing. With this in mind, we took our YFZ450R and Raptor 700R test units to beautifully prepped and ATV friendly Nickota MX in Bedford, KY, and the diverse trails of Haspin Acres in Laurel, Indiana to see how these machines compare in the woods and on the track.
If you are planning on going racing, the YFZ450R will be a better choice for most riders, not to say that you couldn’t turn a Raptor 700 into a viable race machine. For recreational and even somewhat aggressive riding, these machines are surprisingly well matched, but they reach their performance levels in different ways. If you like to push the outer boundaries of speed, suspension, and control a majority of the time and you don’t ride on tight trails, the YFZ450R may very well be the machine for you. The YFZ’s ergonomics, engine, firmer suspension, and squattier rider position aren’t as adept to long casual rides. Its focused primarily on going fast and it does it well.
If you like extended rides and enjoy everything from a casual cruise to riding at a near race pace, the Raptor really shines. Its handling and suspension are optimized for tight to intermediate trails while offering predictable handling and performance on faster trails, the dunes, or even the track, up to a point. Its motor pulls holeshots, has a faster top-speed, and will conquer bigger sand dunes. Its handling and ergonomics work best for bigger riders though smaller riders may like the cockpit if comfort is a top priority.
Results in sales numbers and championships on the track have proven that both of these machines are winners in their own right. If you’re addicted to the speed, light-weight, superior handling, and thrills that only a sport ATV delivers, one of these machines is sure to be a winner for you.
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I own both the Raptor 700R and the YFZ450R...both are 2014 orange, I've owned them since new. I have a lot of seat time on both machines and I have a few things to add...
I love my Raptor...Its got great torque, its super easy to ride because of all the torque. It will take off in 3rd gear just by letting out the clutch, no gas. Its a great cruiser and can be driven through the trails one handed. Also great for very low speed technical riding, such as boon-docking through the woods with no trail.
However once I got my YFZ450R I realized that it is the superior machine by far! compared to the Raptor the YFZ feel so much more planted on the trail. Its is much smoother over the whoops, not as smooth over small bumps but I have a greater feeling of control on the YFZ. Riding the Raptor after riding the YFZ I feel like I'm going to tip over, the CG is soo much higher on the 700.
The motor on both machines are powerful and tough! After 3 season of HARD riding I have had zero mechanical problems, even with the rev limiter set at 11,500 RPM on the YFZ. The major difference in the two is the character of the motor..The Raptor 700 motor acts like a Harley..torquey and slower revving...The YFZ is more like a crotchrocket...high revving and very fast throttle response. The slipper clutch on the 450 is a wonderful addition, no wheel hopping on down shifts and much more control during heavy braking.
The YFZ wants to be ridden hard..its not the machine for you if you want to ride the backroads doing wheelies with your buddies. The raptor on the other hand is happy to be ridden down the road in 4th gear for miles.
At my house I have a 4 mile cross country track, The YFZ will finish a lap 2 minutes faster! Even with the trails being a tight ~50-55 inches wide.
With all that being said the Raptor 700 is still a great quad, one of the best ever made..but for me the YFZR is the better machine.
Thank you very much for sharing your experience. Great long-term insight.
Thank you very much for doing your part to keep to sport ATV market alive!
If going fast is your thing its the most fun segment.
Travis agree with you 100℅ I have both also. I didn't realize how narrow and taller the raptor looked and felt. the midrange on the yfz is crazy but the torque on the rap you feel throughout. I personally prefer the yfz but still love the raptor. yammie definitely sewed up the market
If all you do is trail riding get a Raptor because it's engine will last way longer before needing a rebuild.
This is by far the best comparison/ review video I have ever seen. It’s so detailed and in-depth. Good job boys
Thanks! We had a lot of fun making this video. Very glad you enjoyed it.
These guys are great
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Video is a straight 10. If you can’t decide which one to buy after this review. Just purchased both bud!😄
This is such an amazing video. Literally everything I wanted to know about these two machines were covered.
Both extremely fun and badass quads. My buddy next door to me has a 450 thing is awesome. I bought a Raptor 700 a couple years after he got his 450. Those quads blow us away how awesome they are.
This video is the best quad video on TH-cam! I owned both the 700 and a 450 at the same time...I liked riding the 700 more. It felt faster more nimble and I loved the low end grunt!
Yamaha really crushed it with the 700. The 450 is a great race quad but it definitely geared towards serious competitors. The Raptor is simply more comfortable and never complains about rider errors in shifting. There's a reason a couple of us decided to purchase Raptors although we get to ride lots of machines.
@@ATVonDemand wouldn't the raptor be a better engine for motocross? it has alot more power and would be more easy to jump i think i would enjoy it more as the added power would make it more competitive vs dirtbikes or even other quads
thanks for all of the information that will fly over most people's head when at a dealer looking at fourwheelers. I'm really looking into the yfz450r. thanks again, please keep up the amazing videos:)
Glad we could help. Thanks for watching and commenting.
That ponytail flying slow motion through the air. Majestic.
Matthew Scott LOL
So glad this video was made!... Helped me make the right choice for my riding needs! Thanks!
Super glad we could help!
This review is just perfect. Thank you
We're glad you liked it. Thanks for watching and commenting.
I had two Raptors. An '03 660, with a 700 big bore kit, stage 3 cam and duel exhaust, and a 2007 700r with PC II programmer and duel exhaust. My 700 was dynod 48hp at the rear wheels. My 660 was a hell of a lot faster (less weight, more power because of mods mentioned above), and I didn't have it dynod, but using the 700r as a basis, I'd have to guess the 660 was putting down an easy 55hp to the ground. I pulled wheelies in 5th gear. It was completely unrideable because it always tried to kill the rider.
Both bikes are quite heavy, and you do feel it. The 700r in particular feels very very tall -- often times hard to handle on tight trails.
I've since switched to a 2011 Polaris Outlaw 525s, and I love it. It's small, light, and when you rev it out, it's just as fast as my 660 was, but it has much more usable power. The 660 wanted to do a backflip in 1st gear, no matter how much you slipped the clutch or took it easy. The 525 isn't so insane, and it handles like a Ferrari on roids.
Can a Polaris 525 beat ya raptor 700r let’s say 500 ft
Sounds like you needed to change the sprocket and maybe a rider mod
@@germaineparham8886 it beats it off the bat, maybe not 500 ft
Thank you for the video! I got a yfz450 2005 special edition yellow/black since last summer. Its my first quad and I dont regret it :) With the curtis sparks full exhaust, its sound amazing!
Great side by side review. The true sport atv is a dying breed, there aren't many left on the market. Your review of the 700R helped me decide to move from a '14 Z400 to a '16 700R a few months ago. I'm very happy with the Raptor so far. I'm still playing around with the suspension settings, but it's almost there. Overall, it's darn close to perfect for trail riding. The power is great. I think the "R" stands for ridiculous speed, much more it would be ludicrous speed!!
Glad we could play a role in helping you decide to pick up a new machine. We love he sport ATV segment and have been huge fans of the Raptor since its release. We hope to do some basic hop-up stuff on our Raptor in case you're interested. Congrats on the new ATV!
Really liking the Raptor, I have a 525 IRS outlaw and have done some mods and got it dynoed around 50hp and it flys on the flats and I can hit speed whoops maxxed out without fishtailing but now I feel like a raptor with a big bore kit would pumpout 70+ hp and I'm all about comfort and speed.
I have the 700R and it is awesome! Feels big, powerful and comfortable...
Same here bro , I love my Raptor 700r ,
Thanks for the video it really helped me decide. I race XC and went with the Raptor and love it.
What a perfect ,professional and nice review , thats all I need thank you guys.
Really glad you enjoyed it. It's one of our favorite videos that we've done.
This helped me choose my 700. Pretty satisfied.
Glad to hear it. We have one video out that will help you make it handle better should you choose. We will be doing another video this summer on horsepower upgrades.
I've had a raptor and ridden a 450 always on trails gotta stay with the raptor the comfort electric start headlights and reverse really sealed the deal for me
Yamaha owns the sport segment.
Great video! Both amazing machines
The banshee need to come back
sethandrion youtube I thought it was supposed to look like the yfz 450 now.
I'm Zoid the banshee was to old and had to much power and yamaha. also lost there suplyer. for the banshee parts
sethandrion youtube Ohh and the Blasters are long gone too.
R&S youtube and the trx 250r
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I'm 18, 6'3 195. I ride the oregon dunes. Definitely going with the Raptor. Just gotta save a couple more thousand shouldn't be long!
Cade E we definitely think you're choosing the right machine for the Oregon dunes. We've ridden there several times. It's a beautiful place to ride.
First and last year for my ltz 400,i am going with this Yfz 450 r this thing i seen in person and is badass,next year cant come fast enough.
Just got a 2020 yfz450r and I am in love.
Super stoked for you!!!
I got a 2020 yfz450r and a 2021 raptor 700 love both
I got the 2010 450x bill balance edition. Awesome!
Agreed.
Their both beasts. It's almost impossible to choose just one...
I went with the Raptor 700 SE and my cousin went with the yfz 450 and his spends more time in the shop than actual ridding and mine has never had a problem and this makes his 3rd yfz450 and all have had electrical problems and in a straight race I've beat him every time as well as other rider's on the same type of machine. The Kawasaki wants the power that Yamaha has but they are still behind the mark but properly maintained both the yfz and Raptor are beasts. I change my oil once a year and never had a problem so oil changes after every ride is a myth it's just waisting money.
@@randynichols3056 you won’t notice the effects of less frequent oil changes until you have to rebuild your engine far sooner than everyone else
Great video it really helped me make my choice thanks keep up the good work
Amazing video guys are great machines!!!
that 450 looks like a cobra. venomous
I love the raptor man it's literally like gods gift to man
Fred Hill i owned one, amazing machine.
I have one and absolutely love it. I love it move than my snowmobile and my motorcycle. It’s a monster, fantastic motor.
Dude Manbro do you have a 350?
450! Badass machine had an 07. Sick af.
I’ve riden the raptor 90 and I can say that it’s the best atv that I’ve been on
Keep up the good work Yamaha !!😉😉
I LOVE MY NEW 2018 YFZ 450R.NO COMPLAINT AT ALLAND NOTHING TO HATE ON THER MACHINES.
Great comparison- well done. Quick release panels also make it easier for them to be stolen- just throwing that out there. The 700 is a beast and having reverse out on the trails is a nice feature. I'm surprised the power is so close given the 700 is nearly double the displacement. My guess is the motor will last longer because with lower compression, it is not working as hard, or having to constantly rev as high.
That 700 motor is restricted by air box and exhaust will aftermarket ones u can get around 62 hp with proper jetting and if u open her up and put some money into cams hi comp pistons u can get close to 70
@@user-ux4kv9xp3j proper jetting? Isn't it a fuel injected engine?
@@bigmike9527 yes my fault that’s the 660
Both awesome! Love it
Very good review, nice video clips for both machines. 👍
Excellent review! Gunna buy the Raptor. Thank you
so true with old machines and over pricing
I still love the YFZ as I’m a short guy. I used to ride with guys on banshees, Honda’s of sorts, and raptors. The raptors got me in the straights, but I but them in the corners. Always like the feel more.
@@steviebaybee I'm sure they've all had you in the corner
Yeeet! Got myself a raptor 700r se few months ago. LOVE IT! does everything I need it too.. trail rider here.. with a taste for speed. Haha
Trevin Iron Road congratulations on the rapture. We love hearing about viewers getting sport quads. It's our favorite segment, even if it is the smallest.
YFZ450R all the way!! Best Bike Out there!
Such a hard choiceeeeeeee
Bought a Raptor, happy as can be with it.
Never been on a raptor or yfz450 but have ridden plenty of Honda 400/450r's
Been looking at the yfz and raptor. Excellent video here. Raptor seems like what I want
WE're glad you enjoyed the video and glad we could help.
What they should’ve said is “ Any Yamaha is the Best, Have a good day”.
I'll say from riding with and watching these two in tight steep trails in WV, the YFZ450R is NOT what you want. The YFZ450R is super wide in person in comparison. That makes a huge difference depending on where u ride. I'm not saying I'm all in for the 700R folks just need to choose the right machine for their needs. Best advice, find someone with one and ride it before buying one. Also, all the talk about less low end or less top end -- that can easily be changed with sprocket swap.. Just my $.02
Great video as I am currently comparing both machines. So far I'm leaning toward the Raptor.
Great video! Well done.
I wish my parents weren't so strict about quads and dirt bikes. Another thing is that the quads are quite expensive. And my family isn't poor by any means whatsoever, but were not way up there.
My parents didn't want me on quads or dirt bikes either now look what I do for a living. Tell your parents you will wind up with a life long obsession and it will be their fault. One day you will turn 18, it won't be that long.
i know exactly how you feel. ive tried to get my parents buy one for 10 years. im 16 and my dad finally gave in to building a 660 with me. just keep trying to show them your interest, and be a good kid and do good and school and you may eventually get them to give in. start saving money also, a used warrior 350 is only about 1200$ on craigslist. if you work over summers, save up birthday money, you will be able to save up a decent chunk of money, and im sure if you do the things i said above your parents will help you a small amount on cost. once you have a used one, make sure your dad or mom rides it so they see how fun it is, also get your siblings hooked on it, and you may end up getting a new quad some day. good luck
RaptorRider559 oh yeah, i pretty much do all those things. They say, when you move out you can get one. I'm the youngest and my cousins and older siblings love quads and dirtbikes. My parents not so much. Frankly i don't think anything is gonna change their mind, but ill still try.
The One And Only Seabass u can have my 450r for cheap if your allowed and live close enough
The One And Only Seabass My mom and Dad was hesitant on buying one but at age 12 I got a Yamaha moto 4. I've loved atv dirt bikes and sxs since then. I'm 25 now
0:36 when he starts roasting the competition 😂
Anthony D no roast intended. We liked all of those machines and hated to see them go.
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Just bought a 2015 Yfz 450R and so far, it does not like low speed as you have to be going at least 8mph or so or else the motor will just stall out. The quad is a true race bike. Had a 04 that I trail rode and it did just fine for me. Time will tell for the new one
Updates?
Sport quads died because the big 4x4's got faster and more powerful. We used to buy sport quads because they were crazy fast and accelerated like a bullet. It was a compromise you had to make.....big slow and 4x4.....or small fast and 2wd. But when utility 4x4s began smoking sport quads that was the end. Now you can have it all accept for the light weight
YFZ450R is my life, I love ripping mine
RAPTOR 700 Full confort and power
I'm a honda guy but do own a few Yamaha's. They are great but it's sad they are the only choice left for new sport quads. At least they are still trying to innovate. Great video as always. Imo you guys are the best source on the web for these kind of reviews. Also you are the best because of the vintage reviews which we all love. Keep it up!!
That's a huge complement. Thanks for the motivation.
+ATVonDemand you earned it! (:
yamaha stays with the goods stuff, such a their continuation of the 2 stroke.
love the review.....had a 450 and an older Raptor both are dope depends what you want to do.....also just a pointer for people out there if taking tight turns in the trails ride you front brake it keeps the front in place and whips the back so just something somebody taught me a while back and it helped big time
Thanks for the riding tep.
@@ATVonDemand np...I meant to to say stay on the gas while you ride the front brake on turns...try it out....also great vid keep up the good work :)
Get an old banshee
You won't regret it..
I did ;)
Raul Valdivia no a lot of mechanical problems
Yes sir
Expensive too
Get a banshee
If your brave enough to ride it a second your penis will triple in size instanly
Raptor for me all the way , more comfortable , can ride it all day, has reverse and loads of torque.
I’m in love with this video
Loving you right back
I love that 450r picking up one soon
Go get it!
Ive had both. 700R is fast and torquey, but higher height makes it feel unstable at high speeds. Yfz450r feels lighter, faster revving and has excellent stability at high speeds. Both are amazing machines, but I prefer the 450R
Pretty accurate. That's why we did a video on why we wish Yamaha would build a 50 inch wide Raptor 700.
A yfz 700 would be sick
Great video Guys!
Thanks for watching and commenting
That’s cool. I go to Haspin all the time I love it there.
What do you ride?
I run a 350 ported warrior or sometimes my banshee. Looking for a local mechanic for my warrior now here or near INDIANAPOLIS INDIANA 🤦🏾♂️
Raptor all the way, love the reverse and comfortable all day long suspension lol
No
TheMillst0ne i have a 08 700r. i road for 6 hours the other day, its like riding a really fast couch lol
i own a raptor 700 GYTR and love it
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I ride a 06 predator 500, thing rides like a beast
they really lightened these things up, love my yfz but its sure has some age to it being 10 years old
My 07 yfz still running strong to this day. Love it
Best review ever!
Can't ask for a greater complement!
AWSOME review
I still like my old banshee, I will keep it forever
700R in my opinion is better I own one I use to own a the 450 yfz, but there is a massive difference, the 700R is a lot easier to ride way smoother and you don’t have to go to a lower gear to climb the power is always there cause of the torque on the 700r you can dump the clutch in first and you won’t stall it, the 450 definitely lacked throttle response compared to the 700R and also on the 450 you needed certain gears for climbing had to use the lower gears otherwise the power wasn’t there comfortability wise I rather the 700R this is my opinion don’t get hurt.
Both nice machines!
Stunning video guys awesome job
Thanks ATVFan!
I have a 2011 Can Am DS 450 XMX and love it. Can Am still in the 450 market for 2017?
Unfortunately no.
Yfz 450😍💪🏻
I own a ltz 400 2006 and it's a really impressive all around quad ! With few mods it's kinda fast i can easly fallow my friend with his 700r but i have to admit the 700r is a torque brute ! I think these two machines are the best trail quads ! But i prefer a lower center of gravity and the ltz handle better too ! I'm a suzuki fan's and i can't believe that they've stopped making these machines .. hope they'll change their mind .. gread vid btw
The Suzuki Z400 is the most overlooked, underappreciated sport ATV. Suzuki still has left over 2014s listed on their website, which for trail riders is a superb ATV. Consumers hung up on having 450s or largely overlooked the Z, which has a good amount of power, especially for woods riding. Suzuki should update the swingarm and boost the displacement to 450cc just so they could market it as a new 450 aimed at the GNCC or cross country style rider. The company needs some new models and this would give them the opportunity to compete in a smaller, but far less competitive segment than dirt bikes or UTVs. Are you listening Suzuki?
that 3rd to last scene was sick 18:18
Really miss my old 07 raptor 700... Used to leave my mates on 450's in the dust during drag races
Hopefully you can pick another one up.
trailing raptor racing for yfz. I feel like the raptor is real top heavy
And the Rapture is narrower it needs a wider stance fast ain't worth a f*** if it don't handle if they took that 700 Raptor and made it lower more squatty and wider in the front a arms without having to pay the mod it would maybe even phase out the YFZ
The YFZ baby! Wider,lower and FASTER. BluCru 4 life
It’s slower
did you not watch the video? video says its much slower, so whos right?
4GB MEANS 4GB The yfz is slower in the video
@@coleplecha6632 ya thought so, i mean ones got 200cc more or around that i think. In the market and just trying to figure out which one i should get.
4GB MEANS 4GB get the raptor and you won’t be disappointed because you could easily turn it into a faster version of the yfz by lowering it and widening it. The raptor engine has a huge advantage!
Been trail riding sport quads and big MX bikes for 12 years. Had a 2012 Raptor 700R, the machine is just so good at everything, it's amazing. HOWEVER, if you want the next closest thing to a two stroke, get the 450, even if you ride strictly trails. You will overlook some of it's less trail-friendly aspects because you will be having so much fun with the motor. Very similar to a two-stroke engine.
Great insight for everyone considering these machines. Thanks much for adding your opinion and experience.
Thanks for the consistent uploads, great material! Fun to watch.
I have a raptor 250 and I feel it gives both track and trail vibes
YFZ450 gang!
I'm new to riding and I wanna get the Raptor!
Do it, it's pretty beginner-friendly as long as you take your time and learn the ropes. Plus, there's plenty of power to keep you entertained for years.
excellent review
Thank you.
Excellent video. The comparison helped with my decision. I'm glad I found your channel - subbed!
Scott
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Looks like i'm buying a 700R this fall.
Nice, enjoy!
I have both but I like the YFZ 450 more
Why bro I’m in the market to get one just don’t know
Gino Cadavid Raptor is more for trails im more into racing and jumping
Oh and the body fasteners wear out in about a year or so just saying plan on buying new ones for the yfz
have an 200 700 maxed out upped him to 750ccm. Air suspension, wider A arms wider back axis and it's a beast but it's still top heavy and the weak point on raptors that are used to jump alot are the main frame that cracks
Owned an 06 Raptor 700 (first year) I sold it and regretted it painfully... :(
Buy a NEW one trust me. Life is short HAVE FUN
@@m.morininvestor9920 you my guy know how to live
Raptor all the way!!
450s are for the kids!!!
I choose LTZ 400 any year 03 to 08. Soooooo much fun to ride. But, I do admire these quads. I can't afford to buy all of my faves....lol... and these are 2 of them....I have a 660 too and it's just too heavy- takes the fun out on mixed terrain. Love YAMAHA too...
The Suzuki Z 400 was such a good machine. Really wish they would bring it back.
YFZ450R - power !!! it is necessary to buy... :)
first they need to actually make some power.. lol
what's best for me? my ATC 350x
I have owned both machines at one point I have a 2016 Raptor 700 SE now and I love it but the one thing I liked about the YFZ was how light it is compared to the raptor I don't race I trail ride so one of the big selling points for me was reverse if the YFZ had that that would've been a hard decision for me! I know it's a track machine but I think Yamaha should have offered and optional reverse for people that want to trail ride and no reverse for people that race !
Steviedee 73 it's barely lighter. it being lower probably gave the impression it was lighter.
808sand Blvke the Raptor 700R is almost 20 Lbs more then the YFZ450R that's a fair bit more definitely enough to feel
Steviedee 73 not really. still willing to bet it's more rude height and width. 20lbs is significant but not compared to the difference width and ride height would make. just my opinion though
808sand Blvke ya I here ya both are awesome machines I've owned both at the same time and love both of them it's like trying to compare an apple to an orange
Steviedee 73 very true
I do miss my Honda 450r. stage 2 race cam, modded air box and intake, full titanium exhaust. the whole nine yards right sown to little things like braided brake lines then dyno'd and tuned by a shop. bitch ate Raptor 700's for breakfast. occasionally lost on long straight away but the acceleration usually made sure I was far enough a head. raced a Eclipse By. smoked it up to 148. Porsche thought I was playing too but I was not he only caught me at 130 lol. shit was beast. I bought it brand new then dropped 7,000 easy into it. 4,000 into the engine alone the first 2 years I had it.
Rob Ray .......BEAST!
Can't argue Yamaha is a great brand, but Honda will live on forever, their machines are built to be beat and thrown around, and still work, even after sitting for 10 years!
This seems like a good channel name right? Can't argue with that point. Go buy a new one.
Oddly not even Honda thinks they can keep up or they would still sell one
:-( can't afford either fml
MassCity Madman not funny
It’s simple get a dirt bike, there a lot more fun trust me
Buy an older version used then slowly rebuild it
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@@wantlesssquid6886 used to own a bunch. No they're not.
witch one is better at drifting and love your videos
I have both love them for different reasons. one thing I don't like about the 700 is it has a wet clutch but you can't clutch less shift it
I guarantee you can, wet or dry clutch has nothing to do with being able to clutchless shift, 700 has dog gears like any other atv/motorcycle manual trans, just need to unload gears by blipping or chopping throttle for downshifts or upshifts.