Same! I have always loved Ferrari, and something about the 512 BB design spoke to me. But this car sitting for *39 years* is a total waste. It will probably never be a good running car, unless they do a complete restoration - and even then it's a big gamble.
@@Williestyle-RobotechxMacross-x They need to do a cam belt replacement before even attempting to start it, plus replacing the entire fuel system at a minimum.
@@paulfrantizek102 At minimum all the rubber fuel lines will be junk after sitting that long. Were the gas tanks steel in these cars? I deal in old British, and that's the biggest headache on a "preserved" car.
Very cool. Always loved the 512. Closest I got was my aunts 1987 328GTB black on black. Was lucky to drive it around La Jolla ever so briefly each time I would go visit during the summers for about an hour. So I peaked in ‘87
I'm sure these are already negotiated, prepped, and then scripted for film so it edits better. This is very collectable and will only go up in value as a museum piece especially in North America.
Yes Sammy has a few cars. And still has his 512bb that he drove in the video. I think Sammy soled the LaFerarri. He said that car was just too much for him. The LaFerarri is brutal fast.
A friend bought one of these back in 1989 and paid WAY too much money. He said he tried to start it one day after sitting for only a year and it started an engine fire. He hated that car, haha.
I've owned four classic Ferraris . They're bomb proof . Check the fluids , turn the crank if you can , check the cam belts and start the bugger . Piece of cake to service any of the early V8 or Dino. Nothing to them
To not drive the car occasionally is just plain stupidity, I'm sorry. It's not a statue of a car meant to be looked at, it's a real Ferrari. What happens when the cheese slides off the cracker in the person's attic. Just my opinion, nothing more
@@fritzmuller8246 A-N-Y car sitting is 'working' the suspension and the tires. Rubber has an expiration-date, tires and hoses don't last 'forever'. You must replace these things, along with seals and gaskets regularly. The idea that you can park a car for 20+ years, then decades later just fire it up and hit redline are going to find-out FAST what Ferrari service costs.
If he wants 400K for it, he can get it, but he needs to take the risk in servicing and getting it running and anything it may need. Almost 40 years off the road - who's to say something isn't locked up internally. Buyer is taking all the risk. I even wonder if 350K is too high a risk.
Great deal. Nailed it. Fair for you fair for him. But you still rollin dice. Love these! So does Sammy! I can’t drive 55! Grew up watching this car on MTV with Claudio himself in the Vid!
Amazing find but a shame that he did not store it properly. In 1981 I visited the Ferrari factory after they won the F1 race in Monaco. One of the guys in our group bought a Daytona convertible (red of course)
What wasn't done properly? The car ran and drove per the video after the service. Focus on the results, not the coulda, woulda, shoulda 'Boy Who Cried Wolf' theory.
Back in the 80s I found a Lamborghini Miura rotting in a field behind a gas station. Mechanics lien because the engine locked up after an oil change and the owner refused to pay and was suing the station. It was in sorry shape. I often wonder whatever became of it?
They made so many, at least some get to be preserved and eventually seen by many in a museum, with the very occasional "show" drive/run. 1981 wasn't that long ago, so 2081 would be cool for people to see it after a century of it being wasted as a car.
I agree. Some people want things to drive and have fun and other people want a trophy asset to covit. Te each his own I guess. They don’t always me to see cars just lined up in the museum. I’m not being driven or enjoyed. But I still go to car museums and look at all of them.😅
Sometimes with these cars it's like meeting your hero, you're typically disappointed. I've suffered from it more than once. After I got my so-called dream car, I drove it twice a month.
Would LOVE to see the ACTUAL sale price of this BB512 because as soon as that nerd gets it he'll service it and put it up as a RARE diamond UNIQUE in it's kind NEVER to be seen again and sell it for 500K.
Change the fluids, check the obvious failure points (were these chain or belts for cams???), pull plugs and some oil down the cylinders. Rebuild carbs, replace all soft gas lines. Crank on starter with ignition off to build oil pressure, listening for bad sounds. Reconnect ignition.
You're right. Some engines we can turn oil pump with drill attachment down the distributor pedestal orifice, pumping oil to rockers before moving pistons! 'wondered how much precaution they take with pricy engines.
Are the camshafts belt driven? I wouldn't describe it as a "service" when the engine needs taking out and having main seals and timing belts replaced as well as all fluids and filters. You can't store a car completely untouched for that long and have it just run after some new fuel and oil.
Most likely the car is a POS that spent the first 4 years of its life in the shop. Owner got so tired of it, he parked it in the shed, and forgot about it.
@@paulthesoundguy1 With BB parts what they are 'today', you're looking at $60K for engine-work alone. Add brake overhaul and suspension overhaul, you're pushing $100K easily.
Dear owner, did you realise that a Very valuable car like that is entitled to top dollar ONLY IF you stored it properly &/or drive it consolistently to avoid locked up motors, brakes, nadty fuel systems, dry rings,bearings, rotted rubber, seals hoses. Great paperwork & history and conditio/mileage. If the seller is willing to have the car inspected by a qualified tech. Then its worth close to 400,000. Great & very fair compromise.
A bit more detail about this car that had "sat for thirty years" (yet had no visible deterioration), would have been nice. It had obviously been cleaned nside and out, to within an inch of its life before you set eyes on it. A first start up and what you had to do to achieve that goal are the meat and bones of a blog with the title you gave it. If it had sat for 30 years as the owner claimed it would show plenty of evidence, but one must ask why is the guy selling it now?
Beautiful car but big risk on something that old. Seals etc decay. To buy that with only a 10% margin and potential for an expensive Bill is pretty brave. But he had to pay that to get it.
Cannot understand why he would not take the time to start the car and drive it to operating temperature of all components every 6 months or so. Change the oil once a year. Sitting unused like that is the worst thing you can do to a car.
This guy is unrealistic in his expectations. A car sitting for that long has had all the seals and rubber bushings perish. The guy is crazy for not running it at least once a month. Sitting is the worst thing you can do to a car. The 512 Boxer is the last Ferrari that does anything for me. I had a friend that bought a 365BB in the early 80’s very cheap and had to restore it himself. Beautiful car unfortunately somebody stole it out of his garage after he finished it.
@schamitz your comment sent me digging. I always thought these to be a true boxer design but you are correct, they are not. Even the Ferrari engineer who designed the engine confirmed it. Technically is a flat 12 with the heads at a 180 degree angle. The Ferrari website even refers to it as a 180 degree V12 which is confusing. This is from a technical article I found: “While the "Berlinetta Boxer" name has been used by both Ferrari and the press to describe BB-series cars, this engine was not a true boxer engine. In the Tipo F102 A and its derivatives, each pair of opposing pistons share the same crank pin and move in the same direction during operation. In a boxer engine, pairs of opposing pistons move in opposite directions. On this point, Ferrari engine designer Mauro Forghieri stated "Please, don't call it boxer. Technically, it is correct to say that this engine is a flat-12, or has 12 cylinders with the heads at a vee angle of 180°”
@@timkinley1779 Yes, it does apply, my 911 has a boxer, the 512 BB has a V12. As @58raceguy wrote in a boxer engine pairs of opposing pistons move in opposite directions, in a V12 they don´t. That is not my definition, but the one and only.
@@schamitzI know exactly what a boxer engine is. Never was it assumed anything else. Ferrari named it a boxer. So it is a boxer. The engine is whatever you make it. False advertising is the tree you want to bark up. But Ferrari gave it a name regardless if you agree.
The seller is only about the money but hasn't done a few steps to mitigate the buyer's risk. The seller should have serviced the car at the dealer. I'd walk if he didn't accept the offer
No car however rare or low Mileage is worth 400k. I adore cars and always have done but it's still just metal and leathers and plastic. Yes great engineering (less so with Ferrari). People have gone completely mad!
That's not worth $400k. It's been federalized which means it's been modified which is not good. It'll also need a major service which is probably $50k. Hopefully it will not need a major rebuild. The seller is being greedy and Peter is taking all the risk.
Gee how did I know that he used that line about the $15,000 Ferrari service as nothing more than a BS negotiating tactic. That car was running within 20 minutes of getting to the shop. Check the oil, a tablespoon of marvel mystery oil down each cylinder, drain the gas tank if there was any, new battery and go! At best he drained the float bowls and didn't even clean the carburetors. Then pay somebody 10 bucks an hour to detail top to bottom. He made close to $60,000 on that barter, give or take. There's no such thing as an honest car salesman. Didn't even replace the tires. I'm not even sure if Ferrari would service it considering you have 12 individual carburetors there to deal with and have to sync after cleaning. They got her fired up and that's it. Sold as is with no warranty.
Market might go up, might go down, he needs some room.. those concerns are nothing to do with the seller. You buy it market price at that moment. Also, why would you care about the buyer making money.
What a waste to let a car that should, needs, to be driven just sit and rot. All the hoses,bad..all the gaskets,bad..all the rubber trim,bad. Old gas,gas tank,carbs,bad. Just sell it so it can be truly appreciated not hidden away.
how outstanding but I've got to know did something happen to make it sit parked and cared for like you were going to drive it tomorrow. I stopped watching so it might say but the owner is to me very aware and as you can tell he certainly knows his stuff. I'm begging my brother to sell his car that I curate and got it 1st place in its class the handful of times we entered it. now this is still driven but less and less. I was told that letting the car sit was the worst thing for it. its a newer but still a ey high performance car. its not a '81 boxer but its a '97 18k 993 turbo in guards red. its specced he's the second owner and its always been garage kept I'm the only person who has touched the cosmetic side of it. he also had the foresight to buy a bunch of O.E. parts that are no longer available. its a clean condition 2 way toward the high end. its optioned well and he is hesitent to sell now. I follow the market of it but I'm a car guy that knows about way more than he being a Porsche guy. I've seen them with more miles worse condition without all the extras. it does have a couple mods but has the O.E. parts in addition to all the other things he bought over the 15-20 or so years he's had it. I've seen where cars have sold like his but not as nice where he'd make 300k. is that a car that driving less is actually lowering its value. turbochargered ars need to be heat cycled and and have all fluids circulated as well as everything else from suspension to tires to the cooling system all need to be pressurized I believe more than he drives it. what is long between drives for something like that,. I fully understand this 512 is a different story(and the black just kills its) I've been a 512 and 400i guy since the early 80's and still think they are real ferraris. ones Enzo graced maybe even touched. what an outstanding buy. I grew up watching you on speedvision with my Dad (R.I.P.) and I think your content is better than ever!! let me know if you get a moment about the 993 question. always great to see any or all the Klutt family doing what they do best , dealing with Legendary CARS!! cheers
Maybe your brother should call up Peter Klutt at LMC, if he wants to make a QUICK AND CLEAN, EASY CASH DEAL. IF he wants to take his chances for MAX RETURN, he COULD put his Porsche into a high-end AUCTION. He MIGHT do BETTER, but he might do WORSE, especially if he lists it at auction with NO RESERVE. As the old saying goes, A BIRD IN THE HAND IS WORTH TWO IN THE BUSH.
@@pwilson6439 he's a very anal guy a guy who doesn't have time for nonsense maybe that might be the best me him. I will discuss. all I'm trying to get out of it is a 800hp 996 I reasonable coniyion. he ors me that I think. fair is fair corect lol.
A V-12 FERRARI BERLINETTA (small BERLINA) BOXER is a FLAT 12 cylinder engine, as opposed to a V-12 or an inline 12 cylinder engine. Similar LAYOUT to SUBARU (FLAT 4) and PORSCHE (FLAT 4 or FLAT 6). Makes for a LOWER CENTER OF GRAVITY and better handling.
The first guy who drives this thing for longer than an hour, will be replacing leaky seals and hoses for the rest of the year. Better keep it as a garage queen/investment.
This car's engine is NOT a "boxer" engine, it is a 180 degree V12! You can call it a flat-12, but the crankshaft has six throws instead of one per cylinder that true boxer engines have. Why the hell Ferrari named it this is beyond me. These are seriously cool, but the name is completely wrong! Folks, I think the car is worth twice what the house is worth~
BB in Italian stands for 'Berlinetta Bialbera' meaning two door coupe double overhead cams not boxer! However Ferrari let it go for ease of translation for anglophones to boxer!
This, right here, is the most boring argument in all of automobiledom. Having owned a 911 and currently owning a Testarossa, I couldn’t care less about the difference between a flat V engine and a boxer. I don’t know why anyone does.
Who the hell spends all that money on a new Ferrari, then stores it, keeping it in pristine condition free of dust and bugs and mice, yet doesn't periodically run the thing, change the fluids, etc? What nonsense.
Worst thing you can do is let a car sit without being started or driven. The only value this car has is for someone dumb enough to buy it and let it sit for another 30 years
Original tires!??? They would easily be completely dry rotted and definitely not road worthy.
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I do hope they put fresh tires on the car before the drive... as not doing can easily lead to a blow out... and could create hassles with their insurance given the age of the tires.
One of my most depressing car moments was the first time I saw the BB512i's replacement: The unbelievably ugly Testarossa. Never in my life have I ever been more disappointed. I always felt that Ferrari replaced a gorgeous car with the ugliest possible design. I still hate them. Totally butt-ugly car.
When all the kids my age dreamed of the Countach, I dreamed of the 512 BB. Sammy Hagar made the desire even worse with his Video. What a find!
Same! I have always loved Ferrari, and something about the 512 BB design spoke to me. But this car sitting for *39 years* is a total waste. It will probably never be a good running car, unless they do a complete restoration - and even then it's a big gamble.
Same here,Have agrued with kids In high (1982) school why this is better then Lamborghini
@@Williestyle-RobotechxMacross-x They need to do a cam belt replacement before even attempting to start it, plus replacing the entire fuel system at a minimum.
Me too. The wonderful 328 shape but with a beautiful 12 cylinder.
@@paulfrantizek102 At minimum all the rubber fuel lines will be junk after sitting that long. Were the gas tanks steel in these cars? I deal in old British, and that's the biggest headache on a "preserved" car.
Very cool. Always loved the 512. Closest I got was my aunts 1987 328GTB black on black. Was lucky to drive it around La Jolla ever so briefly each time I would go visit during the summers for about an hour. So I peaked in ‘87
Sitting for 30 years and not one spider web. If he kept it detailed surely he would have kept it running. This vid is all acted out.
I didn't think about the whole spider web thing. You're probably right
I'm sure these are already negotiated, prepped, and then scripted for film so it edits better. This is very collectable and will only go up in value as a museum piece especially in North America.
This is a tv show. I’m sure the owner did a one over.
Bullshit it's been sitting in that condition.
Not to mention it would have been covered in mouse droppings sitting in a barn.
Every time I see the BB512, I think of Sammy Hagars, "I Can't Drive 55" video.
Sammy still has the car
Yes Sammy has a few cars. And still has his 512bb that he drove in the video.
I think Sammy soled the LaFerarri. He said that car was just too much for him. The LaFerarri is brutal fast.
I had a picture of this car on my wall as a kid. Its proportions still sing.
A friend bought one of these back in 1989 and paid WAY too much money. He said he tried to start it one day after sitting for only a year and it started an engine fire. He hated that car, haha.
Exaaaaaaaaaaaaaaactly...
I can understand keeping it mint... but why not start if up once a month, maybe take it for a small drive around the farm a few times a year?
Foolishness.
Even if it’s never driven, it still needs annual servicing.
I've owned four classic Ferraris . They're bomb proof . Check the fluids , turn the crank if you can , check the cam belts and start the bugger . Piece of cake to service any of the early V8 or Dino. Nothing to them
To not drive the car occasionally is just plain stupidity, I'm sorry. It's not a statue of a car meant to be looked at, it's a real Ferrari. What happens when the cheese slides off the cracker in the person's attic. Just my opinion, nothing more
@@fritzmuller8246 A-N-Y car sitting is 'working' the suspension and the tires. Rubber has an expiration-date, tires and hoses don't last 'forever'. You must replace these things, along with seals and gaskets regularly. The idea that you can park a car for 20+ years, then decades later just fire it up and hit redline are going to find-out FAST what Ferrari service costs.
@@Kidsinamerica no one said anything about red lining chum .
This is from around 2015 (judging from the “30 years” from 1985 comment). Also, the seller seems very unhappy with life.
How wonderful to have a car like this sleeping in a barn! Great example of one of my favorite Ferrari of all time in a good shape. Thanks guys!
I love that he's not lost his Belfast accent. Top man, so he is.
My first Ferrari was a 365BB in the late 70's. So, a major soft spot here for the BB. Yes, major concern about old tires.
Car is stunnnng!Good guy
this episode is 10 or 15 years old....
If he wants 400K for it, he can get it, but he needs to take the risk in servicing and getting it running and anything it may need. Almost 40 years off the road - who's to say something isn't locked up internally. Buyer is taking all the risk. I even wonder if 350K is too high a risk.
Wayne Carini would be all over it if it was in the united states i bet
@@jeffclark2725He definitely would be.
@@jeffclark2725 Used to like him but the way he treated Roger on his show lost respect for him.
@@cindysue5474 agreed
@@cindysue5474 What did he do to Roger?
Beautiful in Black. Nice find! Hope you guys are well. Hiss seeing you vintage racing.
Excellent video! 👏👏👏 Beautiful specimen! 😍😍😍 This is indeed a rarity!
Great deal. Nailed it. Fair for you fair for him. But you still rollin dice. Love these! So does Sammy! I can’t drive 55! Grew up watching this car on MTV with Claudio himself in the Vid!
Amazing find but a shame that he did not store it properly. In 1981 I visited the Ferrari factory after they won the F1 race in Monaco. One of the guys in our group bought a Daytona convertible (red of course)
Burgundy coupe barn find in basement of Toronto condo few years back.
What wasn't done properly? The car ran and drove per the video after the service. Focus on the results, not the coulda, woulda, shoulda 'Boy Who Cried Wolf' theory.
Back in the 80s I found a Lamborghini Miura rotting in a field behind a gas station. Mechanics lien because the engine locked up after an oil change and the owner refused to pay and was suing the station. It was in sorry shape. I often wonder whatever became of it?
Whereabouts was it?
@@FMFGUF Strongsville, OH
@@stuffhappens5681 Cool. Perhaps do a search on Google maps, if you know the location...
What a gem of a car 🥰 Great video, thank you posting 👍🏻
What a shame that car has been completely wasted, and will continue to be wasted, as a static sculpture seen by only one person and heard by no one.
They made so many, at least some get to be preserved and eventually seen by many in a museum, with the very occasional "show" drive/run. 1981 wasn't that long ago, so 2081 would be cool for people to see it after a century of it being wasted as a car.
He starts it up regularly in his shed. A guy who buys a car like that knows how to keep it going.
I never understood why someone would buy a special car like this, and then spend over 4 decades not driving it!
I agree. Some people want things to drive and have fun and other people want a trophy asset to covit. Te each his own I guess. They don’t always me to see cars just lined up in the museum. I’m not being driven or enjoyed. But I still go to car museums and look at all of them.😅
Sometimes with these cars it's like meeting your hero, you're typically disappointed. I've suffered from it more than once. After I got my so-called dream car, I drove it twice a month.
My favourite Ferrari as a kid.
Would LOVE to see the ACTUAL sale price of this BB512 because as soon as that nerd gets it he'll service it and put it up as a RARE diamond UNIQUE in it's kind NEVER to be seen again and sell it for 500K.
Amazing how well those tires held air pressure, not being touched for all those decades... /s
It'd be interesting to see the procedure to start an engine that hasn't run in 39yrs.
Change the fluids, check the obvious failure points (were these chain or belts for cams???), pull plugs and some oil down the cylinders. Rebuild carbs, replace all soft gas lines. Crank on starter with ignition off to build oil pressure, listening for bad sounds. Reconnect ignition.
You're right. Some engines we can turn oil pump with drill attachment down the distributor pedestal orifice, pumping oil to rockers before moving pistons! 'wondered how much precaution they take with pricy engines.
Are the camshafts belt driven? I wouldn't describe it as a "service" when the engine needs taking out and having main seals and timing belts replaced as well as all fluids and filters. You can't store a car completely untouched for that long and have it just run after some new fuel and oil.
Dang, I missed the Eddie G live, that sucks. And I heard about those tuned castings but haven't seen any yet. Looks like another rabbit hole 😂😭👍✌️
This is an old episode - when was this recorded? It’s not a 39 year parked car…
Why would you buy a car and not drive it for 40 years?
Because you’re rich
@@Don_Johnson521 No I don’t think that’s the reason. When you can afford these cars they have other weird reasons what ever they might be
Life happens, things get put aside and something that was supposed to temporary can end up going on for decades.
Most likely the car is a POS that spent the first 4 years of its life in the shop.
Owner got so tired of it, he parked it in the shed, and forgot about it.
@@tlr-nut7275 What’s a POS?
Going over a 400k Car with your iPhone flashlight,, Priceless
They say original TYRES like that’s a GOOD thing !! 😂
Yep, I call F.A.K.E..not a single cobweb, mouse dropping nothing!
A close friend of mine's dad had a 512. I'm 99% sure a BB not a BBi. This is my 2nd favorite Ferrari after the 365 Daytona
Come on guys, this is a staged video… Tires are pumped and in perfect condition, no dust, spider webs, or rodents poop… Give us a break 😂
Sweet car! 👍
A black BB512 top!
When was this video originally made ?
I remember this episode
Great video! I wish you had shown the oil change?!?
Did anybody else miss the 10-15 k service to pull the engine and do the belt service?
Did you replace the tires? 40 y/o rubber can be deadly. The rubber compound hardens and they lose a lot of traction.
"My Uncle has a Country place that no one knows about..."
Interesting but too many details missing to make it informative interesting.
I bet that car needed more than $30k in service. $10-15k is for a major service every 7 years, not after nearly 40 years...
It’s $25K for a basic engine service to make factory new
@@paulthesoundguy1 With BB parts what they are 'today', you're looking at $60K for engine-work alone. Add brake overhaul and suspension overhaul, you're pushing $100K easily.
This was filmed around 2007.
Great car. Pre start prep seems to be lacking on the mechanical side.
for how much this car was sold?
Dear owner, did you realise that a Very valuable car like that is entitled to top dollar ONLY IF you stored it properly &/or drive it consolistently to avoid locked up motors, brakes, nadty fuel systems, dry rings,bearings, rotted rubber, seals hoses. Great paperwork & history and conditio/mileage. If the seller is willing to have the car inspected by a qualified tech. Then its worth close to 400,000. Great & very fair compromise.
He goes to look at the barn find car and doesn't bring a good torch. Uses his phone instead.
What i want to know is why did the guy park it after only 3 years...
A bit more detail about this car that had "sat for thirty years" (yet had no visible deterioration), would have been nice. It had obviously been cleaned nside and out, to within an inch of its life before you set eyes on it. A first start up and what you had to do to achieve that goal are the meat and bones of a blog with the title you gave it. If it had sat for 30 years as the owner claimed it would show plenty of evidence, but one must ask why is the guy selling it now?
I couldn't think of a worse car than a Boxer to take on after so much time off the road. What a nightmare.
Shock! Old car found in garage where owner last parked it!!!
Beautiful car but big risk on something that old. Seals etc decay. To buy that with only a 10% margin and potential for an expensive Bill is pretty brave. But he had to pay that to get it.
Take it to a concourse and get the judge sheet to go along with the other documents for selling
You need to be back on cable TV
Cannot understand why he would not take the time to start the car and drive it to operating temperature of all components every 6 months or so. Change the oil once a year. Sitting unused like that is the worst thing you can do to a car.
This guy is unrealistic in his expectations. A car sitting for that long has had all the seals and rubber bushings perish. The guy is crazy for not running it at least once a month. Sitting is the worst thing you can do to a car. The 512 Boxer is the last Ferrari that does anything for me. I had a friend that bought a 365BB in the early 80’s very cheap and had to restore it himself. Beautiful car unfortunately somebody stole it out of his garage after he finished it.
It´s NOT a Boxer, it´s a 180 degree V12.
The 515 BB stands for Berlinetta Boxer. How do you not know that? If Ferrari named it a Boxser.... then maybe your definition of Boxser doesn't apply.
@schamitz your comment sent me digging. I always thought these to be a true boxer design but you are correct, they are not. Even the Ferrari engineer who designed the engine confirmed it. Technically is a flat 12 with the heads at a 180 degree angle. The Ferrari website even refers to it as a 180 degree V12 which is confusing.
This is from a technical article I found:
“While the "Berlinetta Boxer" name has been used by both Ferrari and the press to describe BB-series cars, this engine was not a true boxer engine. In the Tipo F102 A and its derivatives, each pair of opposing pistons share the same crank pin and move in the same direction during operation. In a boxer engine, pairs of opposing pistons move in opposite directions. On this point, Ferrari engine designer Mauro Forghieri stated "Please, don't call it boxer. Technically, it is correct to say that this engine is a flat-12, or has 12 cylinders with the heads at a vee angle of 180°”
@@timkinley1779 Yes, it does apply, my 911 has a boxer, the 512 BB has a V12. As @58raceguy wrote in a boxer engine pairs of opposing pistons move in opposite directions, in a V12 they don´t. That is not my definition, but the one and only.
@@schamitzI know exactly what a boxer engine is. Never was it assumed anything else. Ferrari named it a boxer. So it is a boxer. The engine is whatever you make it. False advertising is the tree you want to bark up. But Ferrari gave it a name regardless if you agree.
When was this? It's not even worth that now with inflation.
The COLLECTOR CAR MARKET is an up and down kind of thing. Cars worth BIG BUX in 2007 were worth a FRACTION of their value a couple of years later.
They put the detailing footage in the wrong sequence ……come to look at the car ?
Owner probably got sick of those $4000 engine-out belt services every 4000 miles back then....more like $9000 now.
Must have kept the mice out of the barn, but how much money has to be spent on the fuel system?
The seller is only about the money but hasn't done a few steps to mitigate the buyer's risk. The seller should have serviced the car at the dealer. I'd walk if he didn't accept the offer
No car however rare or low Mileage is worth 400k. I adore cars and always have done but it's still just metal and leathers and plastic. Yes great engineering (less so with Ferrari). People have gone completely mad!
Once you bought it, it became a 2 owner car. You can't claim one owner anymore, as you did.
That's not worth $400k. It's been federalized which means it's been modified which is not good. It'll also need a major service which is probably $50k. Hopefully it will not need a major rebuild. The seller is being greedy and Peter is taking all the risk.
I would be greedy…as the car is worth what people will pay for it
Makes a GOOD STORY FOR TV, though, does it not ?
Gee how did I know that he used that line about the $15,000 Ferrari service as nothing more than a BS negotiating tactic. That car was running within 20 minutes of getting to the shop. Check the oil, a tablespoon of marvel mystery oil down each cylinder, drain the gas tank if there was any, new battery and go! At best he drained the float bowls and didn't even clean the carburetors. Then pay somebody 10 bucks an hour to detail top to bottom. He made close to $60,000 on that barter, give or take. There's no such thing as an honest car salesman. Didn't even replace the tires. I'm not even sure if Ferrari would service it considering you have 12 individual carburetors there to deal with and have to sync after cleaning. They got her fired up and that's it. Sold as is with no warranty.
Original tyres? They'll be 43 years old then!
Market might go up, might go down, he needs some room.. those concerns are nothing to do with the seller. You buy it market price at that moment. Also, why would you care about the buyer making money.
I see nothing but problems once they it put on the road after that many years many unforeseen issues will show up
F me. Why on earth would you shell out for a 12 cylinder Ferrari then park it up for decades and never drive it?
TOO MUCH MONEY ? WHO KNOWS WHY ?
I wondered exactly the same thing......
Weird, for low mileage to leave it fester in a shed
So confused by these videos: are they intentionally filmed to look as though it’s 2002?
It's an old video but it's in HD.
What a waste to let a car that should, needs, to be driven just sit and rot. All the hoses,bad..all the gaskets,bad..all the rubber trim,bad. Old gas,gas tank,carbs,bad. Just sell it so it can be truly appreciated not hidden away.
Worth more than 400k imho
I have a full set of luggage for a 512.
how outstanding but I've got to know did something happen to make it sit parked and cared for like you were going to drive it tomorrow. I stopped watching so it might say but the owner is to me very aware and as you can tell he certainly knows his stuff. I'm begging my brother to sell his car that I curate and got it 1st place in its class the handful of times we entered it. now this is still driven but less and less. I was told that letting the car sit was the worst thing for it. its a newer but still a ey high performance car. its not a '81 boxer but its a '97 18k 993 turbo in guards red. its specced he's the second owner and its always been garage kept I'm the only person who has touched the cosmetic side of it. he also had the foresight to buy a bunch of O.E. parts that are no longer available. its a clean condition 2 way toward the high end. its optioned well and he is hesitent to sell now. I follow the market of it but I'm a car guy that knows about way more than he being a Porsche guy. I've seen them with more miles worse condition without all the extras. it does have a couple mods but has the O.E. parts in addition to all the other things he bought over the 15-20 or so years he's had it. I've seen where cars have sold like his but not as nice where he'd make 300k. is that a car that driving less is actually lowering its value. turbochargered ars need to be heat cycled and and have all fluids circulated as well as everything else from suspension to tires to the cooling system all need to be pressurized I believe more than he drives it. what is long between drives for something like that,. I fully understand this 512 is a different story(and the black just kills its) I've been a 512 and 400i guy since the early 80's and still think they are real ferraris. ones Enzo graced maybe even touched. what an outstanding buy. I grew up watching you on speedvision with my Dad (R.I.P.) and I think your content is better than ever!! let me know if you get a moment about the 993 question. always great to see any or all the Klutt family doing what they do best , dealing with Legendary CARS!! cheers
Maybe your brother should call up Peter Klutt at LMC, if he wants to make a QUICK AND CLEAN, EASY CASH DEAL.
IF he wants to take his chances for MAX RETURN, he COULD put his Porsche into a high-end AUCTION. He MIGHT do BETTER, but he might do WORSE, especially if he lists it at auction with NO RESERVE.
As the old saying goes, A BIRD IN THE HAND IS WORTH TWO IN THE BUSH.
@@pwilson6439 he's a very anal guy a guy who doesn't have time for nonsense maybe that might be the best me him. I will discuss. all I'm trying to get out of it is a 800hp 996 I reasonable coniyion. he ors me that I think. fair is fair corect lol.
Explain boxer
A V-12 FERRARI BERLINETTA (small BERLINA) BOXER is a FLAT 12 cylinder engine, as opposed to a V-12 or an inline 12 cylinder engine.
Similar LAYOUT to SUBARU (FLAT 4) and PORSCHE (FLAT 4 or FLAT 6).
Makes for a LOWER CENTER OF GRAVITY and better handling.
@@pwilson6439 WOW!
Keep the car
The first guy who drives this thing for longer than an hour, will be replacing leaky seals and hoses for the rest of the year.
Better keep it as a garage queen/investment.
I would get all those items replaced el pronto
So he paid 395k?
No he paid 350k
@@lyonheart84 He hoped to SELL it for $395K.
@@pwilson6439 lol yes I know, it was the other guy that didn't listen to the video 🤣
Guys... we need to HEAR the V12... not lame Discovery channel music.... you are NOT on tele-a-vision anymore...
Come on man, he says "flat 12" in the dang video at 9:32
@@Williestyle-RobotechxMacross-x couldn't hear that over the music either... lol...
This car's engine is NOT a "boxer" engine, it is a 180 degree V12! You can call it a flat-12, but the crankshaft has six throws instead of one per cylinder that true boxer engines have.
Why the hell Ferrari named it this is beyond me. These are seriously cool, but the name is completely wrong!
Folks, I think the car is worth twice what the house is worth~
Stop it
@@Don_Johnson521 No.
BB in Italian stands for 'Berlinetta Bialbera' meaning two door coupe double overhead cams not boxer! However Ferrari let it go for ease of translation for anglophones to boxer!
This, right here, is the most boring argument in all of automobiledom.
Having owned a 911 and currently owning a Testarossa, I couldn’t care less about the difference between a flat V engine and a boxer. I don’t know why anyone does.
@@lebojay LOL! It's the equivalent of 'wokeness' in the automotive hobby!
350k a great offer for a non running car
Who the hell spends all that money on a new Ferrari, then stores it, keeping it in pristine condition free of dust and bugs and mice, yet doesn't periodically run the thing, change the fluids, etc? What nonsense.
Fantastic.
Worst thing you can do is let a car sit without being started or driven. The only value this car has is for someone dumb enough to buy it and let it sit for another 30 years
The owner should have sold it at auction - like Bonham's are similar instead of selling it to this guy.
How can someone buy a Ferrari and not take care of it
Original tires!??? They would easily be completely dry rotted and definitely not road worthy.
I do hope they put fresh tires on the car before the drive... as not doing can easily lead to a blow out... and could create hassles with their insurance given the age of the tires.
Tires are okay they just need to replace the stale old air in them.
One of my most depressing car moments was the first time I saw the BB512i's replacement: The unbelievably ugly Testarossa. Never in my life have I ever been more disappointed. I always felt that Ferrari replaced a gorgeous car with the ugliest possible design. I still hate them. Totally butt-ugly car.
Jay Leno's Garage car badging headlight bezels appear J L
You low balling at 350k
What?!; listen to the accent - He's Irish. Doesn't speak English. Yeah nice. My favorite Ferrari salesman. I'm quite sure he's honest..
Tight paddy seller. What do you expect 😅
To keep the original tires on the car and drive it with them is shear stupidity.
Keep the tires as original equipment, not to drive on them.
Peter just scammed that old guy -
No car is worth that much
bull that car has not sat for that long