There are 2 feelings that I always feel everytime seeing art community: 1. Wow I'm sad my art cannot be famous in the art community. Shall I start to promote myself more? 2. Wow I'm glad my art not famous in the community. I don't want any dramas related to thievery nor hate comments lol
It should instead be a case of being unknown and being allowed to experiment and try different things before you suddenly get locked into things with popularity restricting your ability to explore without people whining about it.
@@MohammedAgbadi You’ll always get jerks in every community that are usually louder than everyone else but there will alway be the genuine folk who wanna help early artists get better at the craft like you.
Art community is toxic I dealt with people telling me to quit and told I am 13 yet I am 28 went back to art in 3 years ago. Plus I am glad I didn't give up despite its very easy to do that.
Just out of curiosity, it looks like this is sort of a thing in the Tumblr / anime / Twitter art style community. I don't really notice it among more realistic, classic comic book style artists.
i actually dont flip my canvases, not because i didnt know it was helpful-i’ve known it is for awhile-but because i see no reason to. if im happy with how my art looks, cool! it’s done! and i worry that if i started doing that, i’d get into a habit of trying to make it the most perfect image, flipped or not. anyway nice video i love the way you do lineart!! hope youre having a good day today!!
thankyou so much! i used to flip my canvas to check the proportions of my faces some years back but now i'm just drawing with vibes now tbh and winging it for the most part, sometimes it works but when it doesn't well....yeahh...wonky face lmaooooo
I literally only flip my canvas to change the angle of my strokes so it's more comfortable. Which is a lot, but it's still primarily what I use it for. If there's a flaw in my anatomy or drawing, I will notice it regardless of it being flipped because if I noticed the flaw, then it's within my knowledge of what's right. Flipping's not going to magically make me notice something I don't know, either.
Yeah i did it like 2 times got irritated and now i just train my eye to catch minor proportion mistakes and leave the rest to sky zaddy i dont have time for allat
I only flip for when drawing eyes, for weird angle stroke and refreshing my eyes during sketching process. Sometimes your eyes are just used to looking at it on one angle that some features will be exaggerated when you flip (which is not a terrible thing, its to simulate how new pair of eyes will see it)
👃🏿I feel like most times flipped drawings look weird because you aren't used to your artwork facing the opposite direction, and it takes time getting used to. And I agree, if I'm happy with how my art looks facing the direction it was meant to, I'm not flipping it. I nitpick my art already, why add fire to the fuse?👃🏻
@@MohammedAgbadi It's true though. I can't tell you how many TH-cam videos that expose artists for being hypocrites while having this holier than thou mentality
i just went from “babe wake up new Mohammed Agbadi vid” to having my heart skip a beat at the shoutout- to hear that someone i look up to that much even knows who i am absolutely demolished me, but hearing that you actually enjoy my content legit made me cry ;; you’ve always been a massive inspiration to me and i love both your art and content so much, and i’m so honoured rn i dont even know what to say- thank you so much!! fantastic video as well - i actually shared the hot take that beginner artists shouldn’t get so mad at getting vague advice from vague questions, but you completely changed my mind on that. the onus should be on the expert being asked to explain what questions the beginner should be asking, not on the beginner to know what questions to ask when they,,, have no way to do that lmao 😂 thanks for opening up my admittedly harsh perspective on that!!
For the improvement one, I improve for myself. This isn't towards any real goals or anything, I just want to be able to draw things I like. For example, no one is going to draw my OCs doing things, so I must learn how to draw the thing I want to see them doing (if that makes sense).
Exactly! I think this is also me right now. I enjoy creating ocs and building worlds around them and that requires me to improve my skills, learn new techniques and other little things I could use in my art
Exactly! I think this is also me right now. I enjoy creating ocs and building worlds around them and that requires me to improve my skills, learn new techniques and other little things I could use in my art
Me too!!! I'm a soon-to-be art teacher; ironically you don't have to produce amazing art to be one. I only improve my own art because.. well.. it's MY art. It doesn't belong to anyone else but me!
I'm so glad that I've kept to the "good" side of the art community my whole life. While I did get some negative comments when I was first stsrting out, most people were being nice. That, however was 3 years ago. It makes me sad to see how hard people are on beginner artists. How hard is it to be nice? Instead of hating on them, how about giving them tips, to help them improve? how hard is that
I feel the same way. I follow mostly watercolor and gouache artists, proko, and mohammed of course, and honestly, I don't run into a lot of these comments. But maybe I haven't been paying attention.
I feel the same as I’ve had a similr experience. I stay away from tik tok, as it seems like a procrastination trap to hook you into watching crap u don’t even wanna see 😅
Same Like when we talk about the Sonic Community im always on the "good" side due fact i just happend be at the right side i dont even go past that because i know it have drama but the group where im in are very chill and surpport each other Canon characters or Fan characters but literly im so much more in both that i didn't notice much Toxic part in it only those Famous once have time to time drama that i do. With drama i mean a random person want case drama toward them or "claiming" those ocs are what Artist think.... I feel bad for them Idk what it is but there weird people out there who say those characters are the ideal mind set of the artist it self like of you have a murder ocs with here own believe there some people think you support murder and killing while the artist clearly said before they dont stand with there characters idee ;;;
Something that really bothers me personally is how abstract art is treated. I do abstract painting myself, it helps me to understand my own emotions and cope with situations, and it kills me when I hear someone say "You're not a real artist.". Think what you will of the skill of abstract artists, but for the love of god don't tell them their art isn't real. You don't know why we do what we do, we hardly know either, and our paintings or sketches are like a tree full of carbon y'know? Chop it down, you kill the tree, and poison the atmosphere.
The same goes for hyper realism. If abstract art treated badly because of "lack of skill", hyper realism is not people's favorite because of "lack of creativity". Bruh people, what's the matter is PROCESS, not just the final beautiful picture.
art is subjective! people don't need to be rude. it's nice that you enjoy abstract art! i sorta wish i could like abstract art sometimes, but i guess it's just not my cup of tea. people who say "it's not real art" are just insecure about their own feelings unable to accept that people like different things. i've heard so many times people say "that's not music it's just noise" people need to be honest and just say "i personally don't enjoy this" or even better just shut up and vibe UwU
Funnily enough, we had an assignment to illustrate a story through abstract compositions and it made me realize how hard abstract art can actually be. Even if it's not demanding technique-wise it's still a design you have to put thought into
People tend to confuse abstract with industry abstract, same as those who confuse stylized art with industry style. Abstract can be beautiful, and I'm very fond of surrealism myself. But I absolutely loathe low-effort industry abstract. The kind of stuff you see being sold to millionaires that makes you think, "well this is clearly a money laundering scheme". Banksy is a really good example of an abstract artist who genuinely SHOWS how abstract can make a difference. You FEEL the chaos of their work. As for whatever-their-name-is who made the blue-canvas-with-white-stripe painting sold for millions of dollars? No fucking way that had any ounce of "feeling" in it. You know what I felt when I saw that news? Dumbfounded. That is to say, there is nothing wrong with making the kind of art that will get you money, even if you have to throw away your own idea of what art is, but people can still have an opinion about it. Picasso may be famous, but I personally do not care for Picasso. I'm more of a Van Gogh enthusiast. And that's totally fine if someone disagrees. Don't feel too hurt if people hate on you for making abstract art. After all, your art is actually the most profitable amongst millionaires. So that's something!
@@eldreyte for real! I remember I had a similar task and I can't understand shit. My brains physically can't process abstract art and how to make it because it has no rules that I got used to x))
The toxicity caused me to give up on art for, like, 8 years. I hate that I missed out on 8 years of practice, but I feel like I would’ve been crushed if I kept pursuing art as a teenager. I have a lot more of a growth mindset now and I hope I can make up for that lost time.
Yeah I understand, it can be a lot when you’re a teen. I used to put so much pressure on myself to practice when i was 15 to like 20 that I procrastinated so much and ended up feeling very down about it!
@@kamthe_art Yeah exactly! Throughout all that time I was beating myself up for not drawing, but it would make me want to draw less lol. It’s ironic how you kinda have to care less to get better results. Art is such a series of mind-games I swear-
I resonate so much with "artists are constantly chasing an art style and want to get into the industry immediately." When you said artists should be allowed to enjoy art on the side and as a way to relax. I love creating things and making art, but I don't know how I want to continue with it in the scope of my life goals. I've tried the art side hustle, I've gone to school for art, and I've gotten bachelor of fine arts degrees, but I am having such a hard time pursuing art as a career. The ingrained "starving artist" beliefs are so hard to undo, and dealing with rejection is especially difficult for me. I would love to work on creative projects for a living, but it's not realistic for everyone that wants to do it. Currently I work in food service since that was the first place that got back to me when I applied for jobs. I know it's a privilege to be promoted to management and have decent pay, but the job comes with physical pain from standing, constantly changing hours/schedules, and so much mental strain. Art is what keeps me sane. I can't push the stress of making art my job on the only thing that comforts me right now, so I'm glad that you're trying to normalize that all artists have their own reasons for making art and their own pace for improving.
Honestly I would love to find a low stress chill job and keep art as a side hobby where I can work on a comic or some small animations on the side. I just don’t have the chops for being a full time artist. Yet I’m still in an art program for college cause idk what else to do.
Yesterday I found a twitter acount that was really wholesome, the guy would give compliments to a lot of diferent artists, beginner or not. These kinds of people make me have a little more fate in this community and in social media in general. Hope there's more people like him around.
My problem is that a lot of people seem to think that what a person likes in fiction is a indicator of what the person likes IRL, so if you draw things be them SFW or NSFW, people will start harassing you and calling you the most horrible things all because of what you like.
This!! I saw this happend lately and i still think wat is wrong with that person head if you think that the first thing;;; That tells me more about them the. The Artist
I hate that people act like this. It’s like accusing what kind of person someone is based on kinks, which is not really relevant to how they are as a person in a regular conversation. I do believe there are some kinds of art that maybe shouldn’t be posted, but idk. Depends on the topic I guess.
@@mysryuza Yeah that type of stuff is mind boggling. People will accuse you of stuff for drawing/liking certain types of art then get exposed for liking the same type of art, even worse when someone accuses you of doing something heinous when they are guilty of it themselves or defend someone who is guilty.
This exactly. I knew someone on Instagram who has done nothing wrong at all. They do art, and made an Oc to pair with an existing character of a show. Because the Show-character is a Villain, said person made their Oc to also have some villainous tendencies. Seems logical, right? Well, only found out recently that a couple of people didn’t really like this person, and wanted to started drama. It sucks because these band of people used to be the friends of the artist, but I guess betrayed them. And I think one of the few things that the group of people try to start drama on, was for two reasons. One, because the artist apparently draws an obviously toxic ship, said Artist must have been a supporter in real life. And second, because the Artist traces. Which especially the first reason I find is ridiculous. Cause I obviously see that the artist is self aware enough not to support toxic things. But they are just having fun.
I’m always trying to be better at my art by incorporating aspects I find fond of in other people’s art to see if it works for me and for my art. I’m being honest here, *you* were one of my first sets of inspiration when I was still new to the art community. I’m not great at perspective or anatomy so I’m still learning as an artist and practicing proportions of different body shapes. I love your art just as much as anyone else’s art even if I don’t know them. I’m almost always comparing myself to better artists and as self sabotaging as that sounds, it actually drives me to draw more and makes me yearn to improve as an artist.
As a NSFW artist on twitter, I've experienced nearly ZERO bullying/hate. On my old Instagram where I had SFW art however, hate comments and "cancel attempts" were the norm. Maybe it might just be my experience, but I suspect its because the NSFW community is an adult only space, where people aren't there to hate. Just to get horny lol. Whereas Instagram and tiktok are full of 13-year-olds who wanna feel special and start drama. Thats not to say adults cant be toxic too, but it's just my personal experience as an artist on the internet.
Ehhh I dunno, art drama has been a real thing for years. Even famous artists have had beef for many years. About 10 years ago, I faced some "cancellation" myself over absolutely nothing (the nothingness being... well.. literally nothing. Someone decided they didn't like me so they made stuff up about me and spread that slander everywhere within the community we were in lol). I was too mature to wanna deal with that kind of drama so I asked myself, does it really matter if I post my art online? Do I really need that validation? I decided the negatives outweighed the positives, so I deleted my account and told the drama-starter to fuck off. My personal experience aside, I've been seeing this same shit for many years on TH-cam alone. Kids and beginners have always been getting bullied for their art; I mean seriously, does anyone ELSE remember DeviantArt in its heyday??? TikTok is just ANOTHER platform that promotes this same kind of negativity. It's not new, it's not growing, it's just the same stuff repeated. Same car, different manufacturer, if you will.
I agree with the post about race swapping characters. I'm black myself and it can be kind of weird when I see a popular character's race changed. I mean it's up to the artist that they can do what they want, it's just I think it's better if an OG, or an already diverse character was made instead. Also I think there's *less* likely of a chance of any backlash if you don't change a character's traits, like, skin color, gender, race, sexuality, etc. I said less but as we know bullying or harassing could still happen, even if the person didn't change anything in an art piece.
There's a connection between the "flip your canvas" advice, and the "beginners don't know the right questions to ask" sections. If an artist is too new in digital art, they might not understand what they are looking for when flipping the canvas. Their eye isn't trained to notice the things that stick out, and might not feel like it's worth it. I know this one from experience, since I will sometimes flip a drawing, and I feel anxious if I don't see anything wrong. Of course, maybe there's nothing wrong, but my brain is spookily saying, "maybe you just don't see it."
I went through the twitter account of the girl who “fixed” the Scooby art, and it was really disgusting. Everything on her page was just her really bigoted views disguised as “minority representation,” with her saying that men should never draw anything as we only make bigoted, “incelish” art, being racist, and still victimizing herself, acting like we’re the bigots.
I feel like people only pay attention to the least amount of effort than the ones that get the most effort put into work. Like i would doodle bam! Gets love, but I would literally draw something like a landscape, not a single comment or view. Thats thats another sad thing about the community. 😢
There's nothing wrong with simple art I just feel like sometimes it can be tiring working hard on something only for it to get lost in the void no matter what I do. 😅😔
I remember witnessing an art TH-camr destroy her own career in real time. I don't even remember her name anymore (as it's been YEARS), but what I do remember is I looked up to her for a long time.... until she posted a video claiming "art block isn't real; you're just lazy". At the time, I had undiagnosed depression (edit: it has since been diagnosed!!), which had kept me from making art for years. It was like a punch in the face to be told I was actually just lazy all this time, that I wasn't making art because I was sitting on my ass doing nothing. Art block does exist, and it exists for many reasons. CAN it be laziness? Yes, definitely. But that does not apply to MOST artists. And I say "most" because, let's be real, a LOT of artists have their own personal struggles that are varied and unique. Clearly many of her viewers felt the same way, because a lot of them left negative comments. There was a lot of disappointment from her own community, and she desperately tried to save face by apologizing, but by that point, people realized she let the fame get to her and it led to her being cocky enough to share her awful opinions in the first place. If that wasn't bad enough, another TH-camr actually responded to her video, calling her out for what she said. And I gotta be honest, I thought it was so stupid for them to respond to it. At first it was just one over-confident idiot sharing their dumb opinion; now it was TWO idiots sharing their opinions. THAT creates drama. Then, more and more people felt the need to pitch in with THEIR opinions. It got old really fast. That was when I decided to dip from the art community for a very long time. Clearly everyone felt the need to share their opinion on why I had art block... Anyway, after time passed, I forgot about that drama (until now). After so many years, you start to realize how insignificant their behavior is. And that's why I feel confident in my art. Nobody can define me except for me. I get to choose what I do with my art. And everyone else gets to choose their path, too.
Something I've seen happening a lot, especially on tik tok, is accounts dedicated on giving criticism or helping newbies, but then changing the whole piece into their own artstyle and calling it an "improvement "
I'm a "veteran" artist, I grew up with no social media as platform to post my art, I always drew foe myself and I really started using it when I was at college studying illustration. I always hated orhers making fun of my art or art skills, so I dont like do it. I try to encourage younger artists to not be too hard with themselves cause getting better takes time. More Likes not always mean better art. And some arists doesn't need perfect anatomy to be good artists.
15:50 Yes, I guess I could have phrased the comment more nicely 😅. I'm glad it made it into the video though, and I hope someone found it useful regardless. Loved the video as always!
The amount of times people getting confronted for creating and posting stolen or traced art, then responding with aggression and blocking out criticism is painfully high. I've personally encountered this many times. It's one thing if you're still learning, but willful ignorance towards bad and harmful practices is a whole other. This type of behavior needs to stop.
I remember one time around 2018, I did fanart of a character-just a bust and a rando decided to bash my work. They started off with one piece and then just kept going back into my older work, I didn't take it to heart as I went to their page and all of their art was just making skinny characters have huge boobs-and that explained it all LMAO
It’s weird I never really experienced any kind of bullying because of my art being bad, once a person told me my artpiece looked kitschy cause of the style choices I made, but like… whatever dude, that’s your opinion and I’m okay with it being kitsch 😂 but I met a lot of people whi offered honest art critiques, which I think is great 😊
This was a great video, Mohammed! I agreed with everyone to be honest, and though the last opinion felt ‘harsh’ I really do agree with it at the end of the day.
I feel like bullying is just a petty pathetic move done by people who are so self concious that they need to put down other to feel better. I sometimes have the impression these people feel threaten by beginner artist because "what if they were better, what if they over shadowed them, what if they stole client from them" Treating art like a competitive job, which it is not that much at least not on the commission market. Like... it's taking out stresse and self doubt on other it is so unhealthy
Separate comment on the furry fandom. It's diverse group, to say the least and there are certainly art bullies on public sites (DA and Twitter). However, in the actual furry sites, you can see all sorts skill levels on different mediums, from folks just starting out on printer paper to digital DaVinci's. You can have artists who can barely hold their stylus steady on a simple C Curve and artists who can do photorealistic with a No.2 pencil and a sheet of printer paper. Usually so long as you tag and rate your stuff right, you're good.
The art community is like a couple that make out, break up, make up, kiss, then proceed to stab each other for overblown issues, rinse and repeat. It’s an abusive relationship. THANK YOU about the “chasing an art style” part! I kept saying that art style develops with you, it’s not an Easter egg to find.
Honestly, why cant bad artists exist? Whether you're bad or good at something, you have the same fucking right to do it as anyone else. The good were also bad once. but, hear me out, what if you never become good? Who cares? Even if you're not improving, or don't want to, you still have the right to do it. I do think one has to be self aware tho. I'm not the greatest, I'm passable at best and I'm aware of that. I'm trying to improve again (I had to stop drawing for a while and it really brought me 5 years back), but even if I didn't want to, I'm still gonna do it. I like doing it. Am I supposed to just quit college because twitter said so? fuck no. I gotta be honest and say, there is bullying in college. I myself am guilty of making fun of ppl. BUT the ones ppl make fun of are arrogant people who think they are the best when they actually aren't. They're terrible people, who completely fuck things up for others and the environment in class also suffers for it. The chill ppl who recognize they aren't the greatest are good. as a matter of fact, if you make fun of them, you'll be the one to be ostracized. I am the 1st to make fun of my own stuff and I ask for honest criticism (a lot of times I'm not given it bcs ppl are afraid of hurting me. ive since asked them to stop doing that.). This is the best way to become comfortable with failure. We're human. We fail, we aren't all skilled in the same things and that's totally fine. It doesn't make anyone less then.
I'm wondering if I should take all my art down and just dissappear. Never show my personas again. So many of my sonas have been stolen, race washed, disrespected. My arts been traced and stolen. My friends sona was sold as an NFT. In tired of it. This was supposed to be a wholesome community where we could all show off what we were proud of and grow.
I'm getting back into art recently, and with the bullying novice artists and AI art being a thing, it's quite scary. But I'm going to keep going, and as silly as it sounds, Fromsoft games like Dark Souls has taught me to push forward, the enemies in their games are there to keep me from getting to my goal, but it's up to me to keep going, no matter how many times I fall.
Personally I find it hard to seperate art from the artist- I guess simply *following* does less harm but I mean, if you for example buy an art book from them you still gave them money and supported them and by keeping their business going you basically tell them whatever it is that they´re doing is okay
Thank you for making videos like these, I want to be an artist and I was worried about the community but I'll still go for it. Enjoy making things just because I like making things
As someone who does actually just.. do art as a hobby, I approve of that one Sometimes I feel guilty seeing everyone around me improve, and maybe it’s the imposter syndrome, but like, you kinda feel like you’ll never belong. You feel like you don’t have anyone to turn to, because sometimes you’ll show them something, and have just a sinking feeling they think lower than you being an artist because your progress seems to be stagnant Idk, that’s just my thoughts on the whole thing
Don’t care about what ppl think, do what you like and fuck anyone else who says otherwise. Don’t focus too much on the negative aspects of it art is a gift and not a lot of ppl have it to understand what they are looking at🥰
The most toxic aspect in the art community to me is that people seem to expect a lot from you, if your new artwork isn’t as impressive as the recent one(s) people will unfollow. Or if you draw something slightly different than usual people will also unfollow instead of just scrolling by if they don’t like that specific artwork. It feels like theres such a pressure to please everyone every single time an artwork is posted and to only create what my followers want to see instead of what makes myself happy to draw. I know i should only create what makes me happy but it still kinda sucks people don’t stay cuz they genuinely like your art 😔
I feel like this when I draw masculine characters, I really need more practice on them, but people only enjoys the way I draw feminine characters and it gets tiring to draw the same thing over and over again. So screw it, I'll draw what I want because it makes me happy, new followers will come eventually
@@rofidel178 i feel you, i started gaining followers for drawing one specific ship and over time its getting kinda boring drawing the same characters and ship so often, now im trying to switch up my content and draw what makes me enjoy drawing, but it still hurts seeing the numbers going down but im reminding myself that numbers are just that, numbers and nothing important. Let us both create art that makes us happy instead and like you said, new followers will come sooner or later 😌
One of my moms friends once told me there is no bad are just crude and that she loves crude art, she thinks it has more soul in it. I was like 10 and didn't want her to look at my doodles lol
Will never understand bullying. I go and follow and talk to new artists, even if they say an image is bad i go ahead and say its good and how they can improve if they arnt happy with... lets say propotions. The community is the best help resource. I had and still have awful experiences so i make it my goal to actively spread positivity and advice. Also.....i have full fursuits and dinomasks 😂😂 i like dinosaurs..they are my autistic fixation so i love the masks
Oh boy! I do remember a couple of artists who thought they were the best thing ever and wouldn't listen to critique. One came on the forum and said we could get him jobs and he might pay us a commission. After being mocked, he went on a huge rant on DA. Hilarious. But is was just lovely to see the pros helping beginner artists to improve and the huge amount of encouragement they gave to them to keep going. We all helped each other and there was never a culture of trying to get rid of the competition. Damn, I miss that place, but the internet was different back then.
Thee thing about race swapping is so true, in an example like the live action Ariel, it has the same concept/storyline as the normal Ariel..but she's race swapped. The problem with.things like this is that it doesn't add anything to the character's personality. It's just the same person with a different skin color, they don't reflect on they're history or give them cultural outfits or new things they love and hate. They don't reflect on the problems or struggles that a colored person might go through, or any person from that matter. As a person of color, It's hard to feel connected with a "different character" when it's just the same character in someone else's skin.
i love this guy, he explains things so well. i don't participate in the online art community because I do zines and traditional art, but whenever I want to check in with The Team I always check out this channel. Thanks! Also your art is great.
I used to get art bullied all the damn time for having shitty art, or doing cringe art. Doesn’t matter what you draw or how you draw it. Every drawing is practice. It doesn’t always seem like improvement, but when you look back years later, you’ll see it definitely was.
Beginner artists always complain when someone says, "Just practice." Yeah, and they have a legit reason. No shit they should practice, they're not stupid. Saying just practice as if they didn't already know that, naturally, they're pissed off. They shouldn't necessarily have to ask specific questions, why can't you just be willing to just teach them something specific, or maybe you should ask back "get better at drawing what?" instead of just expecting them to ask specific questions.
Honestly im at a weird place where if i post my art its because im bothered to or my body allows me to draw as im somewhat disabled, but otherwise as much as i want to make money of my art the community is waaaaaay to toxic for me and where ive been bullied in the past the last thing i need is to be bullied by strangers on the Internet, plus ive been drawing for years and never once received a commission and my reach just began to dwindle then ended up being shadow banned which threw me into a constant state of depression to the point now to save my sanity i don't even look at other peoples art anymore as it just puts me off drawing altogether because i automatically feel like I'll never be able to get to that level and it didn't help when i was studying game art at uni i was constantly told by my tutors im not industry ready or im not at industry standard so now i mentally cannot do 3D art because if i go to model something im constantly hearing that in my head even though ive improved in both my 2D and 3D art so the only thing i have is my 2D art
My art style alone is a mix of inspirations from western comics, some Rtreefor artists, jp shonen/obari and chinese paintings of chinese gods (got them from specific sets of manhwa and game art from moba), or at least i think so. I used to use blender to help with posing and composition until I started to use it less and less as I got better at just "vibing it" from sketches, i still use blender for unfamiliar bg/experimenting pose and some pieces that require 3d 75° angle, which are very rare since they don't usually look appealing
As a furry and a furry artist, thank you so much for including us (and thanks to Aka Gay too). Every time I press share or upload to post my art I feel like Im playing truth or dare, like I just got dared by myself to show my “waste of talent/ potential” or “fatherless artwork” or got asked to tell about the cringe things I draw. Thanks this single video helps a lot.❤❤ Edit: I also want to say it’s crazy how bad of a reputation we received from the weird side of the fandom. Now, that’s all what normies see of out of our skill.
Don't listen to the people who whine, post whatever you want to. Wanna draw a sexy woman? draw it. Wanna draw a buff aesthetic dude? draw it. People will always whine about everything.
man that last one hit me so hard. im in a small friend group who are all artists in varying stages of their art. im often asked for advice as i'm generally the most experienced as i've spent a lot of time to learn and have people who can guide me along the way but it's often really hard because its super hard to just tackle everything they need to work on. we all are artists but we also all have incredibly different styles and methods which often dont mesh well with another's. it gets frustrating for both parties because the one learning feels no improvement while the one teaching sees the same mistakes repeatedly made. that paired with my general ineptitude at being a teacher, it gets really tiresome. luckily, there has been some noticeable improvement over time. it's been slow, but its there, but at the same time i feel as if i hadnt been able to contribute very much to that improvement. on another note, with the growing toxicity in the art community, its starting to feel like the room to grow is starting to shrink. the community is supposed to be a safe space to share and grow but with how horrible its becoming, that feels like it wont be as such anymore. it feels like i wont have anywhere to go to properly pursue an art career that i want. the best advice doesnt come from tutorials, but from people actually seeing the work who can critique it personally. however, the community seems to have forgotten what constructive criticism is and resorts to just berating everything about some work they dont like.
I've been deriding myself this last month trying to get to Marvel quality style just so I can start a fan comic for something else entirely different. The only good take away from this is that I quickly picked up on the Loomis method for building the anatomy of the head. The comment regarding style being what influenced you, I need to take to heart and jump right into making that fan comic, I'll never be as good as the professionals at Marvel.
Aspiring artists have completely given up their dreams of being artists because they were relentlessly bullied online by the art community. Some have even gone on to commit suicide.
I love your videos, because it gives me a glimpse of what the mainstream online art community is like. And it boggles my mind of how toxic it is! Most of the points in these (community aspects ones) are just common sense, like helping newcomers and to not be a bully. It makes me grateful that the art community/niche at Tumblr that i am in is much more fun and non toxic, probably because of the site's culture of curating your own experience and avoiding drama like the plague. Though i do have a taste of toxic art communities back when i frequent my country's local art community on Instagram, where everyone is so against "woke" that it looped back to plain ol racism, xenophobia, transphobia and homophobia.
A few years ago, I was bullied into canceling my commissions on Instagram for charging $40 for a fully rendered image where you get all the bells and whistles, unlimited requests for any changes, and an electronic copy of the original image that you can keep and use for personal use. The bullies took screenshots of my art, shared it with their group, made fun of me and my work, and decided to spam my commission post with nasty comments. It wasnt until my brother messaged one of the bullies that they stopped. Idk what was said, but it stopped almost instantly. I even got an apology. My brother never told me exactly what he said. He just told me, "they had no room to make fun of you. Their art is trash." 😂 i absolutely dont condone bullying, btw. This was a case of "nobody messes with my sibling except me."😂 But, now, i dont do requests or commissions because it makes my anxiety go through the roof.😔
Here’s something I’ve been doing. Improving for myself. I’ve realised if I start to think about selling or being great or anything about that, I just get stressed and sad. So instead, I like to improve so I can draw my characters better. And I’m getting there now! Now my biggest issue is motivation and.. eugh.. lineart.
Appreciate the sexy Leon spread! But yes, art community is a festering wound. I love my art and I like to post which was nostly out of wanting to share my stuff (I don't care much about the followers), so I'm lucky that I haven't come across some stupid comments because my art gloves *will* come off.
Forgot to tell them to block bullies, and report them if necessary, don't let the useless bullies spam your inbox and do whatever they want on your channel, "ignoring" them like that is giving them free reign.
i have joined the bandwagon of criticizing other artists for mistakes they have made without consent, or those whose art styles are stylized before. even going so far as to bully them and cause drama just to get some attention for myself and let them know "i am better than them"-which, funny enough, i am not. that goes the same thing for copying and referencing, and i learned that the hard way as soon as i realized i became like those bullies i hated. i agree with one comment about the art community being full of hypocrisy as well.
My art journey was born in Deviantart, and when I tell you that the attitude on there in 2013 prophesized how the art community in the future would be.....
A while back I made a video about what it’s like being an artist with disabilities it’s a struggle cause we think and process information differently so is hard and frustrating to learn how most artists learn. I don’t think this is talked about enough, cause what if someone with disabilities gets bullied for being a beginner when they’re not a beginner? Taking on expectations from others and yourself with disabilities feels like the whole world is on your shoulders, god forbid you don’t understand an art lesson and makes you not wanna even try the fundamentals. Not to mention most people with learning disabilities thrive on support and patience to learn. Without those we are doomed to a mental breakdown. That was me with school and probably why I didn’t like art class despite loving art. Of course not all our struggles are the same. But it’s hard to find the best way to take in information. I’m 23 and still finding a way to learn art in a way that makes sense to me
Art is an expression of yourself and humanity. Traced, painted, sketched, it all derives from your emotions and your heart; some people don’t like tracing but it’s a great way to practice and I’m doing some of it right now (unless you’re stealing something, don’t do dat). That’s why I hate something like AI art, I don’t care how pretty it gets, art is a reflection of humanity in all of its shapes and forms, AI art is a soulless being attempting to recreate who we are. Even if your art is ‘ugly’ or ‘abstract and weird’, that’s just an opinion from people who don’t understand how important that drawing is to you, even if it’s ‘ugly’ on purpose. Just keep drawing the style or types of art you love and don’t get too wrapped up in what other people think of it, constructive criticism is one thing, bullying is another. I don’t know I just feel like people can be so harsh, I don’t like every single art style I see but I’m not gonna ridicule the artist and call it bad because I don’t like the style, that’s just stupid. It’s like calling a video game bad because it’s not the type of game you like to play. Anyway, I’m ranting, keep drawing if it helps you heal or express yourself to the world and don’t let others moderate how you want to be seen.
One thing I hate about how some people sees art is how realism is "real art". It makes beginner artists, and sometimes even experienced ones, feel like they need to draw realism and make their art look realistic even when they don't enjoy it, just to prove a point. Just to show that they do know realism and they can make "real" art. The thing is; Anything that you make with your creativity and imaginations, be it digital and traditional art, sculptures, crafts, .etc Is art itself. Even if you have cartoony or anime art style, all of that is real art. Art style is just the way you draw and stylize things. You don't need to make something in a way you don't enjoy to be validated as an artist. It's fine when it was made to improve your art, you have to learn the rules before you break and bend it as you wish, after all. And it's also alright when you don't like that and just wanna do what you want. Art is supposed to be enjoyed. What matters is that you enjoy your crafts and the people who likes your work for the way it's done and supports you. Not everyone will like what you do and share the same taste. P/s: Just because an artist draws with a cartoony style, it doesn't mean they don't know realism. Most of the time, they DO, in fact, practice and learned realism without posting about it. The art style of an artist doesn't equal to their skill. (ex: If an artist draws circular Animal Crossing hands it doesn't mean they don't know how to draw the entire hand anatomy.)
Never thought I'd make it, I think we are mostly agreed here, yeah do not use other works without their permission! And leaving thoughts about other topics about the community here: I hate "popular" artists and their ego, not everyone is like this but I'm so tired of the elitism and adults playing being kids in highschool, I get it that "art idols" are people just like us. But just because someone has great art doesn't mean they can get in their way to be assh0les with other people. Also in risk of being controversial I'm tired of artists being too PC while drawing the most nsfw stuff possible, etc. It's also sad that young artists don't get their places anymore, it would help if they get a community for themselves to share and give fair feedback to their art. Also anyone who discourages other artists from doing art just because they fear competition are thrash people and don't deserve any clients tbh, some ppl needs to pay bills to live. We have to help eachother no to destroy ourselves with jelaousy, insecurity and resentfulness.
I only trace(for pose) if it's for a commission (the client wanted said pose, and/or the pose is rather complicated to sketch) sure, I'll sketch the pose, but just that. I'll scribble the form of the thing or other stuff
The Art Community hurts me. If it’s not the art style you like, you can scroll or give NICE criticism to the artist if they need it, not threatening them or hurting their feelings. There are actual beginner artists that need help with experienced artists, hoping they can help them. But, guess what? Those “pro” artists just hurt them and wipe them off the internet.
2:25 is EXACTLY how I feel about a somewhat small part of the Genshin Art fandom and other art relating to the darkening of skin. Skin ≠ rep, I feel that sure--Rep is needed, but just doing it because it looks pretty is absurb. It's a insult to the artist/creator of the character and an insult to race. Honestly, I'm just done at this point with 'race being an aesthetic.'
Why can I not relate to any of this? I know I mostly keep to myself and only post my art on twitter and instagram sparingly. But I’ve never really witnessed this toxic side of the art community at all. Alhamdulillah!
I don't know why, but i want to comment this, i think the best decision for artist(not only) is to delete all the social medie they use not for learning, because it just makes you unhappy about your art(not only)
I had someone insult my art (and me as a human being) because I called her out for being racist. "I looked at your profile again and threw up a second time" "if you're thinking about pursuing art in the future...don't. This isn't supposed to be a personal attack, sorry" like...what? You're not even an artist bro😂
IDK I think I agree with the fact that, beginners to spend time thierself and get frustrated then ask the specific question about what to improve and how to improve. It's shows that beginners have had spent time and trying to learn. We as humans have tendency to not take advice seriously unless it's necessary or immediate, so I think it's better these beginner figure out where are they sucking at. Art is simultaneous process of input and output and unless these beginner doesn't thrives to produce output with what input they have, the new input will be just falls in waste.
I want to talk about social media bullying in general. I'm not surprised honestly. It's 2023 social media and most of the internet users are bullies now. When you say that they are being offensive, they are gonna say "why is everyone so offended these days" "stfu" etc. they say these things after saying the most offensive thing. I'm tired of seeing bunch of adults bullying every single thing they saw like middle schoolers. And even worse, they are acting like bullying is a GOOD THING TO DO AND PEOPLE SHOULD DO IT. They litterally justify themself by saying "If you post yourself in social media I can bully you I have right to do" I'm just tired of this and it breaks my heart that art community became a part of this. I make art, because I like it, it's fun, can be stressfull sometimes but still, i love it. People can make art for many reasons, but i think, it doesn't matter if you're not having fun and don't like making art. How do people suppose to like making art after all these bullying?
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There are 2 feelings that I always feel everytime seeing art community:
1. Wow I'm sad my art cannot be famous in the art community. Shall I start to promote myself more?
2. Wow I'm glad my art not famous in the community. I don't want any dramas related to thievery nor hate comments lol
It should instead be a case of being unknown and being allowed to experiment and try different things before you suddenly get locked into things with popularity restricting your ability to explore without people whining about it.
SAME SAME
One time I posted my art it got stolen and I wasn't even a big account 💀
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Haha. Add a Watermark/ signature and uhh..don't go on Twitter and TikTok with you art. Stay safe from the drama.
The art community is so toxic that im scared to post my art...
same
Hearing that just tells how bad the community is..
Same, I'd consider myself a beginner artist and tiktok HATES beginner artists
sighhhhh hearing this is so disheartening
You got this! :)
The art community is like war it never changes.
it will get better! we can hope!
@@MohammedAgbadi You’ll always get jerks in every community that are usually louder than everyone else but there will alway be the genuine folk who wanna help early artists get better at the craft like you.
It’s like Spec Ops: The Line, where war leads to tragedies.
@@Magicghost23Yeah, it's a loud minority
Same with the car community bro this one guy made a 2000's styled dodge charger 2022 that won gatlinburg slammedenuff BRO EVERYONE WAS BLOOD THIRSTY
Art community is toxic I dealt with people telling me to quit and told I am 13 yet I am 28 went back to art in 3 years ago. Plus I am glad I didn't give up despite its very easy to do that.
Oww sorry to hear that. I’m glad you still kept going and didn’t give in to the hate comments. Keep it up
Just out of curiosity, it looks like this is sort of a thing in the Tumblr / anime / Twitter art style community. I don't really notice it among more realistic, classic comic book style artists.
dont quit ever bro bro. if u enjoy it and it helps u de stress just keep doin it, dont need to listen to people talkin shit fs
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Art Community: "We should all stand up to AI art, we are a loving, united community and family!"
Also Art Community:
''u art stealer reeeeee'' these people...... [the same people who do steal art and call others out for doing it too]
Casually doxxes
Nitpicks anyone who’s art style is minimalistic art
*shits tears and cries*
i actually dont flip my canvases, not because i didnt know it was helpful-i’ve known it is for awhile-but because i see no reason to. if im happy with how my art looks, cool! it’s done! and i worry that if i started doing that, i’d get into a habit of trying to make it the most perfect image, flipped or not. anyway nice video i love the way you do lineart!! hope youre having a good day today!!
thankyou so much!
i used to flip my canvas to check the proportions of my faces some years back but now i'm just drawing with vibes now tbh and winging it for the most part, sometimes it works but when it doesn't well....yeahh...wonky face lmaooooo
I literally only flip my canvas to change the angle of my strokes so it's more comfortable. Which is a lot, but it's still primarily what I use it for. If there's a flaw in my anatomy or drawing, I will notice it regardless of it being flipped because if I noticed the flaw, then it's within my knowledge of what's right. Flipping's not going to magically make me notice something I don't know, either.
Yeah i did it like 2 times got irritated and now i just train my eye to catch minor proportion mistakes and leave the rest to sky zaddy i dont have time for allat
I only flip for when drawing eyes, for weird angle stroke and refreshing my eyes during sketching process. Sometimes your eyes are just used to looking at it on one angle that some features will be exaggerated when you flip (which is not a terrible thing, its to simulate how new pair of eyes will see it)
👃🏿I feel like most times flipped drawings look weird because you aren't used to your artwork facing the opposite direction, and it takes time getting used to. And I agree, if I'm happy with how my art looks facing the direction it was meant to, I'm not flipping it. I nitpick my art already, why add fire to the fuse?👃🏻
The Art Community is full of hypocrisy & projection
That partttttt!!!
@@MohammedAgbadi It's true though. I can't tell you how many TH-cam videos that expose artists for being hypocrites while having this holier than thou mentality
the community: sees anything remotely good also the art community: ''It's StOLeN!'' *FACEPALM
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i just went from “babe wake up new Mohammed Agbadi vid” to having my heart skip a beat at the shoutout- to hear that someone i look up to that much even knows who i am absolutely demolished me, but hearing that you actually enjoy my content legit made me cry ;; you’ve always been a massive inspiration to me and i love both your art and content so much, and i’m so honoured rn i dont even know what to say- thank you so much!! fantastic video as well - i actually shared the hot take that beginner artists shouldn’t get so mad at getting vague advice from vague questions, but you completely changed my mind on that. the onus should be on the expert being asked to explain what questions the beginner should be asking, not on the beginner to know what questions to ask when they,,, have no way to do that lmao 😂 thanks for opening up my admittedly harsh perspective on that!!
Hi! I really love your content 😁
@@YourSweetGally0820 ahhh thank you so much!! ;u;
For the improvement one, I improve for myself. This isn't towards any real goals or anything, I just want to be able to draw things I like. For example, no one is going to draw my OCs doing things, so I must learn how to draw the thing I want to see them doing (if that makes sense).
Exactly! I think this is also me right now. I enjoy creating ocs and building worlds around them and that requires me to improve my skills, learn new techniques and other little things I could use in my art
Exactly! I think this is also me right now. I enjoy creating ocs and building worlds around them and that requires me to improve my skills, learn new techniques and other little things I could use in my art
Me too!!! I'm a soon-to-be art teacher; ironically you don't have to produce amazing art to be one. I only improve my own art because.. well.. it's MY art. It doesn't belong to anyone else but me!
I'm so glad that I've kept to the "good" side of the art community my whole life. While I did get some negative comments when I was first stsrting out, most people were being nice. That, however was 3 years ago.
It makes me sad to see how hard people are on beginner artists. How hard is it to be nice? Instead of hating on them, how about giving them tips, to help them improve? how hard is that
I feel the same way. I follow mostly watercolor and gouache artists, proko, and mohammed of course, and honestly, I don't run into a lot of these comments.
But maybe I haven't been paying attention.
@@amysomething3370 Yeah. i'm honestly glad. If i had gotten these comments back when i was younger, i wouldnt have kept on making art
I feel the same as I’ve had a similr experience. I stay away from tik tok, as it seems like a procrastination trap to hook you into watching crap u don’t even wanna see 😅
@@kamthe_art For real XD
Same
Like when we talk about the Sonic Community im always on the "good" side due fact i just happend be at the right side i dont even go past that because i know it have drama but the group where im in are very chill and surpport each other Canon characters or Fan characters but literly im so much more in both that i didn't notice much Toxic part in it only those Famous once have time to time drama that i do.
With drama i mean a random person want case drama toward them or "claiming" those ocs are what Artist think.... I feel bad for them
Idk what it is but there weird people out there who say those characters are the ideal mind set of the artist it self like of you have a murder ocs with here own believe there some people think you support murder and killing while the artist clearly said before they dont stand with there characters idee ;;;
Something that really bothers me personally is how abstract art is treated.
I do abstract painting myself, it helps me to understand my own emotions and cope with situations, and it kills me when I hear someone say "You're not a real artist.". Think what you will of the skill of abstract artists, but for the love of god don't tell them their art isn't real. You don't know why we do what we do, we hardly know either, and our paintings or sketches are like a tree full of carbon y'know? Chop it down, you kill the tree, and poison the atmosphere.
The same goes for hyper realism. If abstract art treated badly because of "lack of skill", hyper realism is not people's favorite because of "lack of creativity". Bruh people, what's the matter is PROCESS, not just the final beautiful picture.
art is subjective! people don't need to be rude. it's nice that you enjoy abstract art! i sorta wish i could like abstract art sometimes, but i guess it's just not my cup of tea. people who say "it's not real art" are just insecure about their own feelings unable to accept that people like different things. i've heard so many times people say "that's not music it's just noise" people need to be honest and just say "i personally don't enjoy this" or even better just shut up and vibe UwU
Funnily enough, we had an assignment to illustrate a story through abstract compositions and it made me realize how hard abstract art can actually be. Even if it's not demanding technique-wise it's still a design you have to put thought into
People tend to confuse abstract with industry abstract, same as those who confuse stylized art with industry style.
Abstract can be beautiful, and I'm very fond of surrealism myself. But I absolutely loathe low-effort industry abstract. The kind of stuff you see being sold to millionaires that makes you think, "well this is clearly a money laundering scheme".
Banksy is a really good example of an abstract artist who genuinely SHOWS how abstract can make a difference. You FEEL the chaos of their work.
As for whatever-their-name-is who made the blue-canvas-with-white-stripe painting sold for millions of dollars? No fucking way that had any ounce of "feeling" in it. You know what I felt when I saw that news? Dumbfounded.
That is to say, there is nothing wrong with making the kind of art that will get you money, even if you have to throw away your own idea of what art is, but people can still have an opinion about it. Picasso may be famous, but I personally do not care for Picasso. I'm more of a Van Gogh enthusiast. And that's totally fine if someone disagrees.
Don't feel too hurt if people hate on you for making abstract art. After all, your art is actually the most profitable amongst millionaires. So that's something!
@@eldreyte for real! I remember I had a similar task and I can't understand shit. My brains physically can't process abstract art and how to make it because it has no rules that I got used to x))
The toxicity caused me to give up on art for, like, 8 years. I hate that I missed out on 8 years of practice, but I feel like I would’ve been crushed if I kept pursuing art as a teenager. I have a lot more of a growth mindset now and I hope I can make up for that lost time.
Yeah I understand, it can be a lot when you’re a teen. I used to put so much pressure on myself to practice when i was 15 to like 20 that I procrastinated so much and ended up feeling very down about it!
@@kamthe_art Yeah exactly! Throughout all that time I was beating myself up for not drawing, but it would make me want to draw less lol. It’s ironic how you kinda have to care less to get better results.
Art is such a series of mind-games I swear-
I resonate so much with "artists are constantly chasing an art style and want to get into the industry immediately." When you said artists should be allowed to enjoy art on the side and as a way to relax. I love creating things and making art, but I don't know how I want to continue with it in the scope of my life goals. I've tried the art side hustle, I've gone to school for art, and I've gotten bachelor of fine arts degrees, but I am having such a hard time pursuing art as a career. The ingrained "starving artist" beliefs are so hard to undo, and dealing with rejection is especially difficult for me. I would love to work on creative projects for a living, but it's not realistic for everyone that wants to do it.
Currently I work in food service since that was the first place that got back to me when I applied for jobs. I know it's a privilege to be promoted to management and have decent pay, but the job comes with physical pain from standing, constantly changing hours/schedules, and so much mental strain. Art is what keeps me sane. I can't push the stress of making art my job on the only thing that comforts me right now, so I'm glad that you're trying to normalize that all artists have their own reasons for making art and their own pace for improving.
Honestly I would love to find a low stress chill job and keep art as a side hobby where I can work on a comic or some small animations on the side. I just don’t have the chops for being a full time artist. Yet I’m still in an art program for college cause idk what else to do.
Yesterday I found a twitter acount that was really wholesome, the guy would give compliments to a lot of diferent artists, beginner or not. These kinds of people make me have a little more fate in this community and in social media in general. Hope there's more people like him around.
My problem is that a lot of people seem to think that what a person likes in fiction is a indicator of what the person likes IRL, so if you draw things be them SFW or NSFW, people will start harassing you and calling you the most horrible things all because of what you like.
Literally my issue; I keep posting out of spite xP
This!! I saw this happend lately and i still think wat is wrong with that person head if you think that the first thing;;;
That tells me more about them the. The Artist
I hate that people act like this. It’s like accusing what kind of person someone is based on kinks, which is not really relevant to how they are as a person in a regular conversation. I do believe there are some kinds of art that maybe shouldn’t be posted, but idk. Depends on the topic I guess.
@@mysryuza Yeah that type of stuff is mind boggling. People will accuse you of stuff for drawing/liking certain types of art then get exposed for liking the same type of art, even worse when someone accuses you of doing something heinous when they are guilty of it themselves or defend someone who is guilty.
This exactly. I knew someone on Instagram who has done nothing wrong at all. They do art, and made an Oc to pair with an existing character of a show. Because the Show-character is a Villain, said person made their Oc to also have some villainous tendencies. Seems logical, right?
Well, only found out recently that a couple of people didn’t really like this person, and wanted to started drama. It sucks because these band of people used to be the friends of the artist, but I guess betrayed them.
And I think one of the few things that the group of people try to start drama on, was for two reasons. One, because the artist apparently draws an obviously toxic ship, said Artist must have been a supporter in real life. And second, because the Artist traces.
Which especially the first reason I find is ridiculous. Cause I obviously see that the artist is self aware enough not to support toxic things. But they are just having fun.
I’m always trying to be better at my art by incorporating aspects I find fond of in other people’s art to see if it works for me and for my art. I’m being honest here, *you* were one of my first sets of inspiration when I was still new to the art community. I’m not great at perspective or anatomy so I’m still learning as an artist and practicing proportions of different body shapes. I love your art just as much as anyone else’s art even if I don’t know them. I’m almost always comparing myself to better artists and as self sabotaging as that sounds, it actually drives me to draw more and makes me yearn to improve as an artist.
That’s a great way to look at things!
As a NSFW artist on twitter, I've experienced nearly ZERO bullying/hate. On my old Instagram where I had SFW art however, hate comments and "cancel attempts" were the norm. Maybe it might just be my experience, but I suspect its because the NSFW community is an adult only space, where people aren't there to hate. Just to get horny lol. Whereas Instagram and tiktok are full of 13-year-olds who wanna feel special and start drama. Thats not to say adults cant be toxic too, but it's just my personal experience as an artist on the internet.
Yes, I've noticed it myself. The kink community I'm apart of isn't nearly as toxic as the fandom community.
Not me personally but I've seen ppl starting drama with popular nsfw ones too, ofc much less than the sfw ones.
Bc p0rn brings unity...
Ferb, i know what we're going to do today!
And how respectful and polite people are when commissioning nsfw art too
The Art community is in some "trying" times, I sense a disturbance in the Ink
anyway keep up the fire as always
i think most of it is getting worse now that tiktok is slowly becoming more or less like twittter...slowwwwllllyyyyyyy
@@MohammedAgbadi yeah most definitely, the twitter hive mind be migrating
Ehhh I dunno, art drama has been a real thing for years. Even famous artists have had beef for many years. About 10 years ago, I faced some "cancellation" myself over absolutely nothing (the nothingness being... well.. literally nothing. Someone decided they didn't like me so they made stuff up about me and spread that slander everywhere within the community we were in lol). I was too mature to wanna deal with that kind of drama so I asked myself, does it really matter if I post my art online? Do I really need that validation? I decided the negatives outweighed the positives, so I deleted my account and told the drama-starter to fuck off.
My personal experience aside, I've been seeing this same shit for many years on TH-cam alone. Kids and beginners have always been getting bullied for their art; I mean seriously, does anyone ELSE remember DeviantArt in its heyday???
TikTok is just ANOTHER platform that promotes this same kind of negativity. It's not new, it's not growing, it's just the same stuff repeated. Same car, different manufacturer, if you will.
I agree with the post about race swapping characters. I'm black myself and it can be kind of weird when I see a popular character's race changed. I mean it's up to the artist that they can do what they want, it's just I think it's better if an OG, or an already diverse character was made instead. Also I think there's *less* likely of a chance of any backlash if you don't change a character's traits, like, skin color, gender, race, sexuality, etc. I said less but as we know bullying or harassing could still happen, even if the person didn't change anything in an art piece.
There's a connection between the "flip your canvas" advice, and the "beginners don't know the right questions to ask" sections. If an artist is too new in digital art, they might not understand what they are looking for when flipping the canvas. Their eye isn't trained to notice the things that stick out, and might not feel like it's worth it. I know this one from experience, since I will sometimes flip a drawing, and I feel anxious if I don't see anything wrong. Of course, maybe there's nothing wrong, but my brain is spookily saying, "maybe you just don't see it."
I went through the twitter account of the girl who “fixed” the Scooby art, and it was really disgusting. Everything on her page was just her really bigoted views disguised as “minority representation,” with her saying that men should never draw anything as we only make bigoted, “incelish” art, being racist, and still victimizing herself, acting like we’re the bigots.
I feel like people only pay attention to the least amount of effort than the ones that get the most effort put into work. Like i would doodle bam! Gets love, but I would literally draw something like a landscape, not a single comment or view. Thats thats another sad thing about the community. 😢
Yeah for some reason the art I disliked the most is the one with most views
There's nothing wrong with simple art I just feel like sometimes it can be tiring working hard on something only for it to get lost in the void no matter what I do. 😅😔
I remember witnessing an art TH-camr destroy her own career in real time. I don't even remember her name anymore (as it's been YEARS), but what I do remember is I looked up to her for a long time.... until she posted a video claiming "art block isn't real; you're just lazy". At the time, I had undiagnosed depression (edit: it has since been diagnosed!!), which had kept me from making art for years. It was like a punch in the face to be told I was actually just lazy all this time, that I wasn't making art because I was sitting on my ass doing nothing. Art block does exist, and it exists for many reasons. CAN it be laziness? Yes, definitely. But that does not apply to MOST artists. And I say "most" because, let's be real, a LOT of artists have their own personal struggles that are varied and unique.
Clearly many of her viewers felt the same way, because a lot of them left negative comments. There was a lot of disappointment from her own community, and she desperately tried to save face by apologizing, but by that point, people realized she let the fame get to her and it led to her being cocky enough to share her awful opinions in the first place.
If that wasn't bad enough, another TH-camr actually responded to her video, calling her out for what she said. And I gotta be honest, I thought it was so stupid for them to respond to it. At first it was just one over-confident idiot sharing their dumb opinion; now it was TWO idiots sharing their opinions. THAT creates drama. Then, more and more people felt the need to pitch in with THEIR opinions. It got old really fast. That was when I decided to dip from the art community for a very long time. Clearly everyone felt the need to share their opinion on why I had art block...
Anyway, after time passed, I forgot about that drama (until now). After so many years, you start to realize how insignificant their behavior is. And that's why I feel confident in my art. Nobody can define me except for me. I get to choose what I do with my art. And everyone else gets to choose their path, too.
Holly Brown maybe? I remember people criticizing her advice to “just draw every day” without giving people any real direction.
Do you at least remember what year it happened?
Something I've seen happening a lot, especially on tik tok, is accounts dedicated on giving criticism or helping newbies, but then changing the whole piece into their own artstyle and calling it an "improvement "
Oh really? Well I know what I’m doing for the rest of the day thank you loves🥰
I'm a "veteran" artist, I grew up with no social media as platform to post my art, I always drew foe myself and I really started using it when I was at college studying illustration. I always hated orhers making fun of my art or art skills, so I dont like do it. I try to encourage younger artists to not be too hard with themselves cause getting better takes time. More Likes not always mean better art. And some arists doesn't need perfect anatomy to be good artists.
15:50 Yes, I guess I could have phrased the comment more nicely 😅.
I'm glad it made it into the video though, and I hope someone found it useful regardless. Loved the video as always!
lmaaooo nah you good angel haha
Leon’s cake kept me distracted the whole video but yeah nice cak- video
lmaooo maintain focus!!!!
"Your lust had clouded your judgment." Sun Tzu
"Community"... more like social twitter warfare
twitter community doing the most tbh...but it seems its getting better
Apparently you never heard of Kooleen
@@MohammedAgbadi it getting better? No wayyy
they are the embodiment of the spider man pointing meme
your lineart is absolutely beautiful :o
Omg Thankyou so much!
THE DUCHESS CELESTIA SHOUTOUT IS SO REAL I LOVE HER CONTENT
i love her videos so much! she's really cool!
The amount of times people getting confronted for creating and posting stolen or traced art, then responding with aggression and blocking out criticism is painfully high. I've personally encountered this many times.
It's one thing if you're still learning, but willful ignorance towards bad and harmful practices is a whole other. This type of behavior needs to stop.
I remember one time around 2018, I did fanart of a character-just a bust and a rando decided to bash my work. They started off with one piece and then just kept going back into my older work, I didn't take it to heart as I went to their page and all of their art was just making skinny characters have huge boobs-and that explained it all LMAO
It’s weird I never really experienced any kind of bullying because of my art being bad, once a person told me my artpiece looked kitschy cause of the style choices I made, but like… whatever dude, that’s your opinion and I’m okay with it being kitsch 😂 but I met a lot of people whi offered honest art critiques, which I think is great 😊
This was a great video, Mohammed! I agreed with everyone to be honest, and though the last opinion felt ‘harsh’ I really do agree with it at the end of the day.
I feel like bullying is just a petty pathetic move done by people who are so self concious that they need to put down other to feel better. I sometimes have the impression these people feel threaten by beginner artist because "what if they were better, what if they over shadowed them, what if they stole client from them"
Treating art like a competitive job, which it is not that much at least not on the commission market.
Like... it's taking out stresse and self doubt on other it is so unhealthy
Separate comment on the furry fandom. It's diverse group, to say the least and there are certainly art bullies on public sites (DA and Twitter). However, in the actual furry sites, you can see all sorts skill levels on different mediums, from folks just starting out on printer paper to digital DaVinci's. You can have artists who can barely hold their stylus steady on a simple C Curve and artists who can do photorealistic with a No.2 pencil and a sheet of printer paper.
Usually so long as you tag and rate your stuff right, you're good.
The art community is like a couple that make out, break up, make up, kiss, then proceed to stab each other for overblown issues, rinse and repeat. It’s an abusive relationship.
THANK YOU about the “chasing an art style” part! I kept saying that art style develops with you, it’s not an Easter egg to find.
Honestly, why cant bad artists exist?
Whether you're bad or good at something, you have the same fucking right to do it as anyone else.
The good were also bad once.
but, hear me out, what if you never become good?
Who cares? Even if you're not improving, or don't want to, you still have the right to do it.
I do think one has to be self aware tho.
I'm not the greatest, I'm passable at best and I'm aware of that. I'm trying to improve again (I had to stop drawing for a while and it really brought me 5 years back), but even if I didn't want to, I'm still gonna do it. I like doing it.
Am I supposed to just quit college because twitter said so? fuck no.
I gotta be honest and say, there is bullying in college. I myself am guilty of making fun of ppl.
BUT the ones ppl make fun of are arrogant people who think they are the best when they actually aren't. They're terrible people, who completely fuck things up for others and the environment in class also suffers for it.
The chill ppl who recognize they aren't the greatest are good. as a matter of fact, if you make fun of them, you'll be the one to be ostracized.
I am the 1st to make fun of my own stuff and I ask for honest criticism (a lot of times I'm not given it bcs ppl are afraid of hurting me. ive since asked them to stop doing that.).
This is the best way to become comfortable with failure.
We're human. We fail, we aren't all skilled in the same things and that's totally fine.
It doesn't make anyone less then.
I'm wondering if I should take all my art down and just dissappear. Never show my personas again. So many of my sonas have been stolen, race washed, disrespected. My arts been traced and stolen. My friends sona was sold as an NFT. In tired of it. This was supposed to be a wholesome community where we could all show off what we were proud of and grow.
I ❤ your content. So friendly and willing to help and guide everyone. Please ensure that you don't burnout.
I appreciate you adding subtitles so much! Thank you!
you're welcome!
@@MohammedAgbadi yeahhh thank you for subtitles!
I'm getting back into art recently, and with the bullying novice artists and AI art being a thing, it's quite scary. But I'm going to keep going, and as silly as it sounds, Fromsoft games like Dark Souls has taught me to push forward, the enemies in their games are there to keep me from getting to my goal, but it's up to me to keep going, no matter how many times I fall.
Personally I find it hard to seperate art from the artist- I guess simply *following* does less harm but I mean, if you for example buy an art book from them you still gave them money and supported them and by keeping their business going you basically tell them whatever it is that they´re doing is okay
Thank you for making videos like these, I want to be an artist and I was worried about the community but I'll still go for it. Enjoy making things just because I like making things
I’m a simple person, I see Kaeya I click
stan!
As someone who does actually just.. do art as a hobby, I approve of that one
Sometimes I feel guilty seeing everyone around me improve, and maybe it’s the imposter syndrome, but like, you kinda feel like you’ll never belong. You feel like you don’t have anyone to turn to, because sometimes you’ll show them something, and have just a sinking feeling they think lower than you being an artist because your progress seems to be stagnant
Idk, that’s just my thoughts on the whole thing
Don’t care about what ppl think, do what you like and fuck anyone else who says otherwise. Don’t focus too much on the negative aspects of it art is a gift and not a lot of ppl have it to understand what they are looking at🥰
The most toxic aspect in the art community to me is that people seem to expect a lot from you, if your new artwork isn’t as impressive as the recent one(s) people will unfollow. Or if you draw something slightly different than usual people will also unfollow instead of just scrolling by if they don’t like that specific artwork. It feels like theres such a pressure to please everyone every single time an artwork is posted and to only create what my followers want to see instead of what makes myself happy to draw. I know i should only create what makes me happy but it still kinda sucks people don’t stay cuz they genuinely like your art 😔
I feel like this when I draw masculine characters, I really need more practice on them, but people only enjoys the way I draw feminine characters and it gets tiring to draw the same thing over and over again. So screw it, I'll draw what I want because it makes me happy, new followers will come eventually
@@rofidel178 i feel you, i started gaining followers for drawing one specific ship and over time its getting kinda boring drawing the same characters and ship so often, now im trying to switch up my content and draw what makes me enjoy drawing, but it still hurts seeing the numbers going down but im reminding myself that numbers are just that, numbers and nothing important. Let us both create art that makes us happy instead and like you said, new followers will come sooner or later 😌
One of my moms friends once told me there is no bad are just crude and that she loves crude art, she thinks it has more soul in it. I was like 10 and didn't want her to look at my doodles lol
Will never understand bullying. I go and follow and talk to new artists, even if they say an image is bad i go ahead and say its good and how they can improve if they arnt happy with... lets say propotions. The community is the best help resource. I had and still have awful experiences so i make it my goal to actively spread positivity and advice. Also.....i have full fursuits and dinomasks 😂😂 i like dinosaurs..they are my autistic fixation so i love the masks
Oh boy! I do remember a couple of artists who thought they were the best thing ever and wouldn't listen to critique. One came on the forum and said we could get him jobs and he might pay us a commission. After being mocked, he went on a huge rant on DA. Hilarious. But is was just lovely to see the pros helping beginner artists to improve and the huge amount of encouragement they gave to them to keep going. We all helped each other and there was never a culture of trying to get rid of the competition. Damn, I miss that place, but the internet was different back then.
You’re the pillar holding onto every sane artists in the “art community”. Keep being positive, M.A.
I don't understand the toxicity, cause we all start somewhere.
Let's try and encourage each other's journeys.
Thee thing about race swapping is so true, in an example like the live action Ariel, it has the same concept/storyline as the normal Ariel..but she's race swapped. The problem with.things like this is that it doesn't add anything to the character's personality. It's just the same person with a different skin color, they don't reflect on they're history or give them cultural outfits or new things they love and hate. They don't reflect on the problems or struggles that a colored person might go through, or any person from that matter. As a person of color, It's hard to feel connected with a "different character" when it's just the same character in someone else's skin.
i love this guy, he explains things so well. i don't participate in the online art community because I do zines and traditional art, but whenever I want to check in with The Team I always check out this channel. Thanks! Also your art is great.
I used to get art bullied all the damn time for having shitty art, or doing cringe art. Doesn’t matter what you draw or how you draw it. Every drawing is practice. It doesn’t always seem like improvement, but when you look back years later, you’ll see it definitely was.
Beginner artists always complain when someone says, "Just practice."
Yeah, and they have a legit reason. No shit they should practice, they're not stupid. Saying just practice as if they didn't already know that, naturally, they're pissed off. They shouldn't necessarily have to ask specific questions, why can't you just be willing to just teach them something specific, or maybe you should ask back "get better at drawing what?" instead of just expecting them to ask specific questions.
Honestly im at a weird place where if i post my art its because im bothered to or my body allows me to draw as im somewhat disabled, but otherwise as much as i want to make money of my art the community is waaaaaay to toxic for me and where ive been bullied in the past the last thing i need is to be bullied by strangers on the Internet, plus ive been drawing for years and never once received a commission and my reach just began to dwindle then ended up being shadow banned which threw me into a constant state of depression to the point now to save my sanity i don't even look at other peoples art anymore as it just puts me off drawing altogether because i automatically feel like I'll never be able to get to that level and it didn't help when i was studying game art at uni i was constantly told by my tutors im not industry ready or im not at industry standard so now i mentally cannot do 3D art because if i go to model something im constantly hearing that in my head even though ive improved in both my 2D and 3D art so the only thing i have is my 2D art
My art style alone is a mix of inspirations from western comics, some Rtreefor artists, jp shonen/obari and chinese paintings of chinese gods (got them from specific sets of manhwa and game art from moba), or at least i think so. I used to use blender to help with posing and composition until I started to use it less and less as I got better at just "vibing it" from sketches, i still use blender for unfamiliar bg/experimenting pose and some pieces that require 3d 75° angle, which are very rare since they don't usually look appealing
As a furry and a furry artist, thank you so much for including us (and thanks to Aka Gay too). Every time I press share or upload to post my art I feel like Im playing truth or dare, like I just got dared by myself to show my “waste of talent/ potential” or “fatherless artwork” or got asked to tell about the cringe things I draw. Thanks this single video helps a lot.❤❤
Edit: I also want to say it’s crazy how bad of a reputation we received from the weird side of the fandom. Now, that’s all what normies see of out of our skill.
Don't listen to the people who whine, post whatever you want to. Wanna draw a sexy woman? draw it. Wanna draw a buff aesthetic dude? draw it. People will always whine about everything.
When I was young I told myself that I’m going to open an art account when I feel comfortable,but it didn’t happen to this day.
man that last one hit me so hard. im in a small friend group who are all artists in varying stages of their art. im often asked for advice as i'm generally the most experienced as i've spent a lot of time to learn and have people who can guide me along the way but it's often really hard because its super hard to just tackle everything they need to work on. we all are artists but we also all have incredibly different styles and methods which often dont mesh well with another's. it gets frustrating for both parties because the one learning feels no improvement while the one teaching sees the same mistakes repeatedly made. that paired with my general ineptitude at being a teacher, it gets really tiresome. luckily, there has been some noticeable improvement over time. it's been slow, but its there, but at the same time i feel as if i hadnt been able to contribute very much to that improvement.
on another note, with the growing toxicity in the art community, its starting to feel like the room to grow is starting to shrink. the community is supposed to be a safe space to share and grow but with how horrible its becoming, that feels like it wont be as such anymore. it feels like i wont have anywhere to go to properly pursue an art career that i want. the best advice doesnt come from tutorials, but from people actually seeing the work who can critique it personally. however, the community seems to have forgotten what constructive criticism is and resorts to just berating everything about some work they dont like.
What is going on with the drawing 💀 also I think the last one “ if you want better answers, ask better questions “ is a good point 👍
i don't think my younger/beginner art self could handle today's art community lol
I've been deriding myself this last month trying to get to Marvel quality style just so I can start a fan comic for something else entirely different. The only good take away from this is that I quickly picked up on the Loomis method for building the anatomy of the head. The comment regarding style being what influenced you, I need to take to heart and jump right into making that fan comic, I'll never be as good as the professionals at Marvel.
As a young artist, i don't understand this kinda shit, like it's not like everyone will become picaso in the first time they draw at 3 yrs old 💀
RIGHT???? 💀💀💀💀💀
This is why I would never post or share my art on Twitter
Aspiring artists have completely given up their dreams of being artists because they were relentlessly bullied online by the art community. Some have even gone on to commit suicide.
I love your videos, because it gives me a glimpse of what the mainstream online art community is like. And it boggles my mind of how toxic it is! Most of the points in these (community aspects ones) are just common sense, like helping newcomers and to not be a bully. It makes me grateful that the art community/niche at Tumblr that i am in is much more fun and non toxic, probably because of the site's culture of curating your own experience and avoiding drama like the plague. Though i do have a taste of toxic art communities back when i frequent my country's local art community on Instagram, where everyone is so against "woke" that it looped back to plain ol racism, xenophobia, transphobia and homophobia.
I'm legit scared of the art community..
Same these people have mental problems i swear
A few years ago, I was bullied into canceling my commissions on Instagram for charging $40 for a fully rendered image where you get all the bells and whistles, unlimited requests for any changes, and an electronic copy of the original image that you can keep and use for personal use. The bullies took screenshots of my art, shared it with their group, made fun of me and my work, and decided to spam my commission post with nasty comments. It wasnt until my brother messaged one of the bullies that they stopped. Idk what was said, but it stopped almost instantly. I even got an apology. My brother never told me exactly what he said. He just told me, "they had no room to make fun of you. Their art is trash." 😂 i absolutely dont condone bullying, btw. This was a case of "nobody messes with my sibling except me."😂 But, now, i dont do requests or commissions because it makes my anxiety go through the roof.😔
The art community is vile and it saddens me to warn people about the slums of the community.
Here’s something I’ve been doing. Improving for myself. I’ve realised if I start to think about selling or being great or anything about that, I just get stressed and sad. So instead, I like to improve so I can draw my characters better. And I’m getting there now!
Now my biggest issue is motivation and.. eugh.. lineart.
Appreciate the sexy Leon spread! But yes, art community is a festering wound. I love my art and I like to post which was nostly out of wanting to share my stuff (I don't care much about the followers), so I'm lucky that I haven't come across some stupid comments because my art gloves *will* come off.
Forgot to tell them to block bullies, and report them if necessary, don't let the useless bullies spam your inbox and do whatever they want on your channel, "ignoring" them like that is giving them free reign.
i have joined the bandwagon of criticizing other artists for mistakes they have made without consent, or those whose art styles are stylized before. even going so far as to bully them and cause drama just to get some attention for myself and let them know "i am better than them"-which, funny enough, i am not. that goes the same thing for copying and referencing, and i learned that the hard way as soon as i realized i became like those bullies i hated. i agree with one comment about the art community being full of hypocrisy as well.
My art journey was born in Deviantart, and when I tell you that the attitude on there in 2013 prophesized how the art community in the future would be.....
A while back I made a video about what it’s like being an artist with disabilities it’s a struggle cause we think and process information differently so is hard and frustrating to learn how most artists learn. I don’t think this is talked about enough, cause what if someone with disabilities gets bullied for being a beginner when they’re not a beginner? Taking on expectations from others and yourself with disabilities feels like the whole world is on your shoulders, god forbid you don’t understand an art lesson and makes you not wanna even try the fundamentals. Not to mention most people with learning disabilities thrive on support and patience to learn. Without those we are doomed to a mental breakdown.
That was me with school and probably why I didn’t like art class despite loving art. Of course not all our struggles are the same. But it’s hard to find the best way to take in information. I’m 23 and still finding a way to learn art in a way that makes sense to me
i really like your art style
Art is an expression of yourself and humanity. Traced, painted, sketched, it all derives from your emotions and your heart; some people don’t like tracing but it’s a great way to practice and I’m doing some of it right now (unless you’re stealing something, don’t do dat). That’s why I hate something like AI art, I don’t care how pretty it gets, art is a reflection of humanity in all of its shapes and forms, AI art is a soulless being attempting to recreate who we are. Even if your art is ‘ugly’ or ‘abstract and weird’, that’s just an opinion from people who don’t understand how important that drawing is to you, even if it’s ‘ugly’ on purpose. Just keep drawing the style or types of art you love and don’t get too wrapped up in what other people think of it, constructive criticism is one thing, bullying is another. I don’t know I just feel like people can be so harsh, I don’t like every single art style I see but I’m not gonna ridicule the artist and call it bad because I don’t like the style, that’s just stupid. It’s like calling a video game bad because it’s not the type of game you like to play. Anyway, I’m ranting, keep drawing if it helps you heal or express yourself to the world and don’t let others moderate how you want to be seen.
One thing I hate about how some people sees art is how realism is "real art".
It makes beginner artists, and sometimes even experienced ones, feel like they need to draw realism and make their art look realistic even when they don't enjoy it, just to prove a point. Just to show that they do know realism and they can make "real" art.
The thing is; Anything that you make with your creativity and imaginations, be it digital and traditional art, sculptures, crafts, .etc Is art itself. Even if you have cartoony or anime art style, all of that is real art. Art style is just the way you draw and stylize things.
You don't need to make something in a way you don't enjoy to be validated as an artist.
It's fine when it was made to improve your art, you have to learn the rules before you break and bend it as you wish, after all. And it's also alright when you don't like that and just wanna do what you want. Art is supposed to be enjoyed.
What matters is that you enjoy your crafts and the people who likes your work for the way it's done and supports you.
Not everyone will like what you do and share the same taste.
P/s: Just because an artist draws with a cartoony style, it doesn't mean they don't know realism. Most of the time, they DO, in fact, practice and learned realism without posting about it. The art style of an artist doesn't equal to their skill. (ex: If an artist draws circular Animal Crossing hands it doesn't mean they don't know how to draw the entire hand anatomy.)
Never thought I'd make it, I think we are mostly agreed here, yeah do not use other works without their permission! And leaving thoughts about other topics about the community here:
I hate "popular" artists and their ego, not everyone is like this but I'm so tired of the elitism and adults playing being kids in highschool, I get it that "art idols" are people just like us. But just because someone has great art doesn't mean they can get in their way to be assh0les with other people. Also in risk of being controversial I'm tired of artists being too PC while drawing the most nsfw stuff possible, etc. It's also sad that young artists don't get their places anymore, it would help if they get a community for themselves to share and give fair feedback to their art. Also anyone who discourages other artists from doing art just because they fear competition are thrash people and don't deserve any clients tbh, some ppl needs to pay bills to live. We have to help eachother no to destroy ourselves with jelaousy, insecurity and resentfulness.
Me drawing and coloring for fun and hobby: *Wait? There is a war and toxicity going on art community?*
Honestly I miss the face cam segments of these videos still love your content tho!
but how can you flip your drawing to the side when it's on paper with markers or pencils?
Kinda off topic but i like how you sketch with “two lines” or how you put two lines together. It gives off an interesting vibe!
I only trace(for pose) if it's for a commission (the client wanted said pose, and/or the pose is rather complicated to sketch) sure, I'll sketch the pose, but just that. I'll scribble the form of the thing or other stuff
The Art Community hurts me. If it’s not the art style you like, you can scroll or give NICE criticism to the artist if they need it, not threatening them or hurting their feelings. There are actual beginner artists that need help with experienced artists, hoping they can help them. But, guess what? Those “pro” artists just hurt them and wipe them off the internet.
2:25 is EXACTLY how I feel about a somewhat small part of the Genshin Art fandom and other art relating to the darkening of skin. Skin ≠ rep, I feel that sure--Rep is needed, but just doing it because it looks pretty is absurb. It's a insult to the artist/creator of the character and an insult to race.
Honestly, I'm just done at this point with 'race being an aesthetic.'
When I see a kid or just a new artist share their drawings I always press like and follow just to encourage them.
My god i love how easy you draw hand Ahhhh! So beautiful!!!
Why can I not relate to any of this?
I know I mostly keep to myself and only post my art on twitter and instagram sparingly. But I’ve never really witnessed this toxic side of the art community at all. Alhamdulillah!
I don't know why, but i want to comment this, i think the best decision for artist(not only) is to delete all the social medie they use not for learning, because it just makes you unhappy about your art(not only)
Lil tangent: Nice outline effect on the linework shown on this video.
thankyou!
I had someone insult my art (and me as a human being) because I called her out for being racist. "I looked at your profile again and threw up a second time" "if you're thinking about pursuing art in the future...don't. This isn't supposed to be a personal attack, sorry" like...what? You're not even an artist bro😂
IDK I think I agree with the fact that, beginners to spend time thierself and get frustrated then ask the specific question about what to improve and how to improve. It's shows that beginners have had spent time and trying to learn. We as humans have tendency to not take advice seriously unless it's necessary or immediate, so I think it's better these beginner figure out where are they sucking at. Art is simultaneous process of input and output and unless these beginner doesn't thrives to produce output with what input they have, the new input will be just falls in waste.
I want to talk about social media bullying in general. I'm not surprised honestly. It's 2023 social media and most of the internet users are bullies now. When you say that they are being offensive, they are gonna say "why is everyone so offended these days" "stfu" etc. they say these things after saying the most offensive thing. I'm tired of seeing bunch of adults bullying every single thing they saw like middle schoolers. And even worse, they are acting like bullying is a GOOD THING TO DO AND PEOPLE SHOULD DO IT. They litterally justify themself by saying "If you post yourself in social media I can bully you I have right to do" I'm just tired of this and it breaks my heart that art community became a part of this. I make art, because I like it, it's fun, can be stressfull sometimes but still, i love it. People can make art for many reasons, but i think, it doesn't matter if you're not having fun and don't like making art. How do people suppose to like making art after all these bullying?
Average day in the art community is basically a civil war
lmaoooo we need to assemble a team.. ✪
I can't stand most other artists--chasing clout and projecting more than looking out for one another and being supportive.. and not being GENUINE
Some artists can be too toxic themselves and insecure, we have to separate the art from the artist sometimes