The Youtube Art Community Hates Kooleen...AGAIN!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 เม.ย. 2024
- Mohammed agbadi talking about the kooleen drama and why the youtube art community apparently hates kooleen again.
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*_love her or hate her...what do you think about kooleen?_*
*_she's mommy_*
Mixed feelings about her. As a black person, I hate that she insulted black people's facial structures and called it "gorilla-looking"
“She’s a goth mommy” for me🥰
I am also mixed cuz I love her art but she’s a bit annoying ;-;
Goth MOMMY???@@MohammedAgbadi
“I could not yassify a naked bald guy” sounds like a skill issue
what 😨😨
Well I mean she's being honest at least. Just way too honest- but hey, pretty sure it's much more scarier if they're the silent/mixed manipulatice type of person
anyone can be hot if you try hard enough
They been doing it to Walter White for years.
(OKAY WHY DID I JUST NOW NOTICED THE WORD "NAKED")
Clearly has never seen saitama from opm
"I can't yassify a naked bald guy" Yes you can! Just don't add hair and give it a sexy jawline
Saitama from One Punch Man.
@@BloomkyaaaYeah, dudes hot AF
Dude just draw the chad pic but bald and no beard lmao.
It’s just perfect already
@@Bloomkyaaa Saitama with serious face is sexy af as long he don't do his (: expression
@@Bloomkyaaa That was the series that opened my eyes to the sexiness of a bald man.
The "she's just yassifying the AVATAR, not the artist" argument really falls apart when you watch her literally using real life reference photos of the creators so she can make the avatars look more like them 🙄 She literally ends up yassifying the creators instead of the avatars, because she's so unimaginative she can't work from just the cartoon-design.
I'm sorry, but your argument makes no sense whatsoever 😂😂
Ikr, she is SOOO unimaginative, why can't she make a yassified version of a cartoon character??? It's not like the character she is using as reference has absolutely no distinct features other than the hair.
Jaidens avatar literally has a circle head, dot eyes, a line for a mouth, and a bland t-shirt. What did you expect kooleen to do???
@@darkentity906 Huh
@@godabandonedmesoibecameaba8984 wdym "huh"
@@darkentity906 huh means huh
@@darkentity906 with enough imagination you can literally just go off of that alone
11:58 "i just made her inner mommy come out" wtf
Fr there was no way I was the only one who heard that 😭
She's aroace kooleen wtf!?
The whole "mommy" thing in fandom spaces is honestly disgusting... like when did we as a society regress to boiling down anyone unfortunate enough to develop boobs as "mother material"? I have boobs and I don't want to be a mother, in fact the term "mommy" makes me very uncomfortable. Am I just not allowed in fandom spaces anymore?
Also "made her inner mommy come out" just say you wanna forcibly impregnate her. I had a downward spiral about this a few days ago and you proved people like this actually exist.
It's not about being aroace at this point. It's about regressing all the way past tier 1 feminism to the point of half the population being sex slaves. That is what you're romanticizing Kooleen. Just because you have that kink doesn't mean you should advocate for such a dystopian society.
@@ItzZoya-up5od that's what im sayin brother
I felt second hand embarrassment after Kooleen said that. At this point she'll never learn
additional context on Jaiden: some time ago she had to make a statement she doesn’t want anyone drawing 18+ art of her/her avatar and weird ppl got mad and created even more to spite her. It’s beyond just her being aroace, it’s her boundaries no matter her identity and her history of being made into 18+ art in the past, she was being harassed.
i understand being aroace adds another layer of bad but it’s not the sole reason and it’d still be just as awful if she wasn’t ace. no one deserves such treatment.
I still dont get it, what,part of thw koleen drawing was 18+?
@@mata_abuelas_300 her drawing wasn't 18+. however she made sexual comments towards jaiden in the video. 18+ fanarts is a separate issue, im just adding context as to why ppl are upset.
This is very important, because the people who are saying that Jaiden said she doesn't want those kind of comments to be made about her and then implying that it's solely because she's aroace are surely coming from a good place, but it's not good to act like all aroace people think and feel the same about this topic. Of course the fact that Jaiden is aroace probably adds to the reasons why she's unconfortable with this, but it's not like all aroace people would also be.
I feel like this isn't even an aroace thing, it's just something that you shouldn't do of someone's representation of themselves.
@@threeseals she barely made any, and when they bordered to being sexual, they were very obviously sarcastic
The fact that he looked up what AroAce is says a lot, not even mentioning how he immediately accepted it. We need more people like this.
Girl what
@@sabsain2399 I’m LesbianAce myself (I’m lesbian but I still don’t feel any sexual attraction to anyone, only romantic/platonic feelings) and from my personal experience I’ve seen a lot of “supporting” people immediately look down on people if they aren’t the “classic” Gay/Lesbian/Trans and sometimes even if they are actually supportive they don’t look it up if they don’t really know what it is which could spread misinformation.
I’m just saying that I’m glad that he actually looked it up because he didn’t know it because of what I’ve seen in my own experiences :]
What's the difference between sexual and romantic attraction I genuinely do not understand 😌
@@Hahshdhbcbcyoutube Sexual attraction is when someone feels sexual interest in someone else. Romantic attraction is more things like cuddling and holding hands rather than actually wanting sexual intimacy with someone. Keep in mind that everyone has different preferences and boundaries so different people who are asexual may have different levels and preferences when it comes to those feelings. For example, I personally don’t really feel any se Hal desire to anyone at all but someone else may be a bit mire open (meaning that they may not directly seek it out but it still is something they’d be interested in)
@@Reed_Vine same
Basic shirts are for people that are able to shine with their personality, not their outfit
no wonder Kooleen hates them.
And the sleeveless turtleneck looks worse imo
@@digitalisssfr the “basic shirt” looks good on Jaiden’s avatar, also Jaiden’s avatar is so simple and cute I like it
The basic shirt does look nice as well. It's also it's much easier to animate too.
Cringe 😭
The point of the video is to make the avatars into conventionally attractive characters in her style. Like models or something.
Of course she's gonna swap out the basic shirt. This isn't even the part of the video with a problem 🙄.
The problem with the video was her pulling up that screenshot and making those stupid comments. That's what's tainting the rest of the video in your eyes. That and the mass outrage. Crowd mentality at its finest.
"I could not yassify a naked bald guy."
Why? Because you lack imagination? If she did just yassify his regular avatar, that would have actually been kinda funny.
She basically just turned him into anime SpongeBob smh
I literally got 5 different ideas of how it could look like in one second 💀 it's not that hard 😭
Even 12 year old undertale fans were able to yassify a bald skeleton c’mon kooleen 😭
Hot bald guy invokes the image of tenzin from the legend of korra.
@@JaneD0e_LuckyNxmbr7 exactlyy
THE PATRICK PICTURE MADE ME GENUINELY SCREAM WTFFFF 😨😭
the patrickussy
I'm gonna need water and a prayer after that
@@MohammedAgbadiOh nahhh... wheres the spongeussy?
@@MohammedAgbadihelp can you even show this on youtube 😭😭😭
saved it to my homework folder 🥰🥰
You know the funniest/most fucked up part? She created, edited and voiced over the entire video, and not once did she think twice about how it sounded. Maybe, she should've had a second opinion before posting.
She most likely did it on purpose, the drama brings attention
It really wasn't that big of a deal man. Some ppl just love blowing shit out of proportion for no reason
@@ganimol9691fr, the people in the comments section are insane. 😂 this is a nothing burger
@@mathieul4303 And you think saying "cracker" is a slur😂 you don't get an opinion small headed dimwit
@@ganimol9691 yeah, I don’t approve of what she did, but I still won’t hate on her. That’s just dumb. I don’t think the art Sexualized Jaiden, some art styles are just like that, but Kooleen comments definitely did. But that’s just what Kooleen does, the internet must accept that. Also, I’ve definitely heard ‘Mommy’ as a compliment before, it doesn’t have to be sexual.
The thing is, if Kooleen was yassifying the avatar, why did she add the irl Jayden's tattoos specifically? Could've been like "oh and she has tattoos irl, could take some inspiration and add tattoos" but she specifically drew the tattoos Jayden has irl
When did she said she was yassifiyng the avatar?
@@SussyDussyCat it's an argument that could be used to defend her. If she wasn't yassifying the avatar, then she did an absolutely awful thing, "redesigming" real people
@@niki2037 she said she was yassifying storytime youtubers, not avatars. My attempt was to correct you.
@@SussyDussyCat and I said "IF she was yassifyng the avatar" IF
@@niki2037 then you don't have to write that whole sentence.
I genuinely respect Mohammed so much for going, “oh I didn’t know this thing existed, cool now I’m better informed!” I feel like the Internet has really poisoned my expectations on people learning new things.
Same, mad respect. I was braced for, well, what you would expect of the internet and it was like a breath of relief!
Same until I saw that fucking Patrickussy photo 😭
I'm so used to us ace aro people getting shamed for being open about it and actively told what we are doesn't exist that I tensed up when it was brought up but I was relieved to see I was worrying over nothing this time 😅
@@arsena5209 Terrible mindset. Don't let others control what is or isn't yours. As a mixed person, never feeling I fit in on other side, it only made me less happy. Owning everything you are in it's entirety is crucial to being happy. Even if people denounce a part of you, understand they could just be ignorant. But regardless, you are who you are, you know that, and that's what matters. That realization made me infinitely more comfortable with both sides of my family. It goes a long way. Cheers
@@arsena5209I get what you mean honestly. I know it’s easier said than done, but try to ignore the ignorant hateful comments yk?
wasn't ready for patrick 💀
not the patrickussy
@@MohammedAgbadiI did not consent too seeing that, I will be suing you very soon 😡 get your lawyers bud
LOL @@DaniDumZ
@@MohammedAgbadi💀 bro I’m dead
Same
As a Filipino, we do not claim her bro I so sorry lmfao
fuck you bringing nationality for lmao
samee
don't pass it cuz no one gonna take this disgrace of humanity
Filipino moment
😒😒🙄😮💨
Making art like this of Jaiden's avatar was already scummy because she explicitly made it clear that she did not want any 18+ art made of her.
But to use her REAL SELF as a reference is just- NO, that is revolting, and a violation of boundaries. Shame on Kooleen.
I agree on the second part, but...she did not make 18+ art of her... it was pretty sfw, actually...
@@milenartmeire2588she did make a bunch of nsfw comments
@@vinnie144 Innapropiate? Yes. NSFW/18+? Not really. I wouldnt really count "Mommy" as nsfw/18+. Don't get me wrong, Im not defending her, she was disrespectful, but calling it nsfw/18+ is a stretch ...
I mean, it wasn’t really 18+
Not defending Kooleen, but just pointing that out.
How was it 18+ ?? it was literally a Samdoesart style portrait….
As a NSFW creator, the Patricussy doesn't scare me (I still don't want to see that ever again.)
Kooleen is very weak that she can't yassify a "naked bald guy". Pah!
Her comments were inappropriate, especially if people expressed discomfort about this in the past. And if you don't know a person's boundaries, then just don't talk like that, it is literally that simple.
i do draw nsfw but i was NOT ready 💀
Another case of insensitive Filipino artists again.. haaah I'm tired of my countrymen being sometimes like this, it's basically part of our culture to gossip about people and not care about how they feel, so it probably extended to Koleen's view of people as a whole, especially with what she did with Jaiden. Tsk. 😕
Boundaries? On the internet? Thats not how it works. You of all people should know that. And the hypocrisy of such a statement to boot. The moral police are p*** addicted weirdos who must view everything through a lense of debauchery. Your high horse sank into the earth long ago.
I understand what you mean but based on your comment about the personal boundaries how much does she needs to research about someone to have the right to do a FanArt OR use them as a reference?
Search on Googles Jaden boundaries or search Jaden Traumas or maybe just watch every single video Jaden posted to have the right to draw her?
I'm not making fun of you nor been disrespectful , I'm really curious, how much do you consider an artist HAVE to know about someone to have to freedom to draw them or use them as a reference
She simply may not know Jaden's Traumans, know days we follow a lot of people in social media, is kind of unrealistic to expect everyone to know every trauma about everyone, just because you know the trauma of someone that doesn't mean every one knows,
Traumas, pets, past relationships, crimimal history there's a lot about every individual you would have to take into consideration
I understand wanting to protect Jaden and I too think the comments were of bad taste BUT shouldn't we give people the right to express the self how they want or the right for and artist to present their work how they want?
Saying that she simply shouldn't draw if she doesn't fullfil you personal check list of what to do or not do is kind of arrogant
The best we can do is simply not support the content we don't like but taking away the right to do a draw something you wanted is going to far
Thia is not an attack, I trying to present mu Ideas respectfully if you disagree I hope we mage to keep the conversation respectful
Only thing she did wrong was the comments
THE PATRIKOOCHIE 😭
😭😭😭 not the patrickussy
@@MohammedAgbadi why is yours even worse 😂😂
@@MohammedAgbadi BWUAHAHA-
😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Patrikoochie 😰🙏
9:23 no girl dont pls- this is fuckin disturbing wdym "give her all the lip fillers she "NEEDS"??
5:07 this is such a little thing for me to be happy about but I love the way you were just like-- "ohh huh. Yeah ok." and completely chill about aroace made me feel so happy because we are very used to being told we are "broken" or "wrong"
Its the little things.
Im Christian and bicurious (I think Im bisexual idk), and one of my local pastors said smth like 'i think these people that say they dont feel attraction for anyone are actually just lying, because no human can actually live by themselves' and I thought that was really ass of him tbh
@@WatermelonWhatThe biromantic ace here to say that you are valid dont listen to them dude
@@WatermelonWhatThei don’t understand why some people can’t comprehend how sexuality works. my mum used to ask me about it and it’s funny because it’s genuinely the same way that a girl would like a guy, the gender is just different LOL
@WatermelonWhatThe That pastor clearly needs to understand the situation on those who don't feel attracted to someone. Also, im really curious about Christians and wanted to know so i sincerely apologize is if I sounded rude but, I've read something in an article that had me thinking in which of its true that there are LGBTQ Christians because the topic sounded controversial (if im not wrong remembering it, it was like this):
¹ There are no such things as LGBTQ Christians. It's the same as a witch Christian, a serial killer Christian, or a satanist Christian. (I had to search these verses up since I had almost forgotten it) Genesis 1, 27 "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created He them." Male and female does not mean gender, it mean biological sex.
² Homosexuality is wrong, but it all comes down to sin, and son flows from a corrupt heart. That's why we need to accept Jesus and allow the Holy Spirit to do its work. But, even so, we can't straightforwardly tell the person it is wrong everytime we see them won't help them, their sin flows from past hurts etc.
(The third part just goes on saying about how Christians should love them. And it sounded like LGBTQ aren't supposed to be part of them)
³We can co exist with others but we have the will to choose to not support what they do or say. If they can be who they truly are, then the point of laws and governing rules for the citizens are of no point useless. We have to love the LGBTQ community but don't support them nor curse at them that they're going to hell because then we're talking like we are a child of Satan. Instead, we have to help them and guide them out of their sinning lives to live in the way of Christ as a child of God. Though, it doesn't mean we aren't sinners to begin with, we ourselves, should repent too as God sees all sins are the same with no exceptions.
The biggest issue with the "she's drawing Jaiden's avatar" argument is that Kooleen literally used a picture of Jaiden as a reference for the tattoo's, which results in Jaiden herself and her avatar blending together in the "yassification" since Kooleen is taking parts of both to make the design. (Which makes the comments even worse, esp since she also knows what Jaiden looks like irl.)
THANK YOU!!! And its the way Jaiden clearly didn’t and still does not approve of this drawing as well, along with not liking being idolized or sexualized
Not to mention she was looking at an actual video/photo of Jaiden when she said "goth mommy" not even just the avatar the person herself, and yes Jaiden is BEAUTIFUL, STUNNING, but ewww I'd never call her goth mommy
@@Cardboard_Stitches Fr, respecting people is not that hard
THANK YOU!! Finally someone said something about that. 🎉 she was looking at Jaiden irl picture when she called her a “goth mommy”.she wasnt looking at the avatar at all!
I fully agree with you, and I've gotten into an argument with someone saying "oh it's just Jaiden's avatar" and I'm just like come on dude it's not that hard to have even an ounce of respect for the person. I find it gross that people draw that kinda thing anyways tbh but it's worse when it's based on an actual person.
MOHAMMED WTF WAS THAT PATRICK PHOTO??! YOURE GROUNDED YOUNG MAN🤬🤬
😭😭😭😭 lock the door
cryingg
I agree with you, they will do everything for being a trend.
@@MohammedAgbadi uninvited to the cookout for that one man 😭😭😭
@@meriembelguebli7440the patrussy?? A trend?? 💀
Again?!
Koolleen try not to piss off the art community: Impossible
Or the art community is so sensitive they waste their time with useless drama on TH-cam rather than improve their skills
To the 1st reply: they are right to be mad. Calling someone goth mommy is very bad. Especially is they verbally said they don't want to be called that.
@@livetochange974 1. Kooleen said racist things. Yes she apologized but it was very half-assed
2. Jaiden didn’t want to be called Goth Mommy. She is clearly uncomfortable with being called that.
Calling people sensitive over subjects that they have the right to be pissed off about is insensitive.
@@livetochange974or maybe its weird to call someone goth mommy ?
@@livetochange974 The anger is sensitivity is valid tho?? Jaiden is a real human person…
11:45
I’m not much of an artist myself. But if had someone take my art, and “yassify” it, I’d be pretty offended. Jaidens avatar is plain so it’s easy to animate in short periods of time, and is also meant to somewhat represent her. Not be an exact copy. Could you imagine animating kooleens version? I really don’t think anyone would want to animate that. Just a bunch of unnecessary comments on kooleens part..
I was thinking that too! She was basically coming for the CC’s art styles and it’s not cute. Just cuz it’s simple doesn’t mean it’s bad or less appealing than something that’s “yasified.” And again, she’s not getting the practical end of it.
kooleen drawings look so bland it's not even funny, they are every generic "hot character drawing" you see online. Jaiden and Odd1 drawings are immediately recognizable for their style.
Is this the evolution of braindead "artists" on Twitter "fixing" people's art? I found this video in my recommended and I'm honestly kinda mad. I'm pretty sure AI-generated art would wipe this trash
Possibly unpopular opinion but I never really liked them. I don’t like their roasting without warning, it just starts with being sort of an asshole-
Also jaiden is one of the sweetest people ever and her community is so kind and have given her the most lovely fanart- it’s such a shame someone as ignorant as Kooleen can possibly shatter all of that with making her feel uncomfortable and not safe on the Internet or online- I hope she’s doing okay ❤️
THANK YOU I always hated kooleen's "roasting artists" videos cuz it just came off as them being very entitled and narcissistic even if it was just a joke. You're the first person I've seen who shares that opinion so I'm glad that I'm not alone with that one lol
Yes! I'm happy to see someone else is seeing this too! I don't mind constructive criticism, but her criticism seems more destructive than constructive. I also noticed that she seems to be very cocky and arrogant when it comes to contrasting her and other people's artwork. Like the "I'm a better artist" mentality.
Seriously I'm happy to see someone else saying the same thing. I stated this before and I got called a snowflake. :/
@@tamtee5236 Same that's why I'm so happy to see more people agreeing, it's not being a snowflake if the criticism is genuinely hurtful and arrogant :/ honestly Kooleen's personality has never been to my liking personally and while I respect the people who do like her I also enjoy seeing people who agree with me cuz it makes me feel more validated and less that I'm just being a crybaby abt it lol
As an ace person myself that's very insecure about my body, if anyone just paused on a frame of me and made weird remarks about my body and then drew "me" that's just more conventionally attracted... I would feel sick in the stomach. Not to mention it's kinda contradictory. Not only they crossed a boundary of mine, made the situation weird for views and likes. But also "complimented" me just to "fix" me. So they would make me uncomfortable for no f reason before drawing my prettier doppelganger. W t f.
Yeah, it’s weird to do that to anyone, but especially someone who has been fairly open about suffering from body dysmorphia and has also publicly said “hey, I’m not really into sex” (yes being aroace is WAY more complicated, I’m just simplifying).
Also, being a fellow ace person, I would be too. Actually, I’d probably just break down crying tbh.
Same, this is honestly really disturbing. I used to like Kooleen but this is very disappointing.
literally same
and people always defend her like koolen can’t successfully draw anyone who isn’t conventionally attractive / anime boy / anime girl v shaped chin tiny nose and “jUicY lips” she has a LOT of more learning to do 😭
It's so awful. As an ace as well and one who have had multiple eating disorders, her bashing Jaiden the entire time while going past so many boundaries was just jaw-dropping. She couldn't even try drawing Odd1sOut, but she had to "yassify" a person who has literally stated she doesn't like that sort of thing.
"Goth mommy"? She is NOT the fictional character lady dimetrescu
I guess we're supposed to ask permission before even calling anyone hot nowadays? I mean, ffs, the whole 'mommy' thing is a meme. Everyone should chill.
@@ANPC-pi9vu Kooleen is the one being a weirdo and a bad person and you're telling other people to chill? You're the one getting upset over people calling someone out for their terrible behaviour.
@@ANPC-pi9vuI mean, Jaden isn’t a fictional character. So it would be considered catcalling. Meme or not.
@@ANPC-pi9vuThe main problem is that this is a boundary that Jaiden has placed SEVERAL times. She is uncomfortable with people talking about her in that way and with her avatar being sexualized. It’s basic decency.
@@ANPC-pi9vu I think calling someone "mommy" with sexual intent, especially when that person has expressed explicitly that they dislike being sexualized, is not the same as calling them hot. Had koolean just expressed that she thinks Jaiden is pretty, that would be totally fine! But "mommy" in this context is a porn term. A porn term koolean used to refer to an asexual creator who has a history of being sexualized on r34.
I like this guy. He’s so open to learning new things, doesn’t criticize things he isn’t familiar with and doesn’t make unnecessary jokes. It’s crazy how rare this trait is among humans. Awesome video and a sub :)
Remember, the only real people you should be openly sexualizing are significant others who consent to it. Having a crush on someone is fine, but don’t go around talking about them sexually unless they’re okay with it.
Why does James straight up look like SpongeBob SquarePants when kooleen draws him?
The yellow background ties it all togather, all it needs now is some jelly fish
@@davidlz830omg yeah! I didn’t even notice that tbh
She said that in her video as well 🤣
James is a furry, so that's even less realistic.
YOU GENUINELY DID NOT NEED TO PUT THAT PATRICK PHOTO UP
Sheeeeesh 🫦
That's was the most cursed shit ever.
Was hell
LMAOO
TIMESTAMP NOW
kooleen need to pull out her ukulele like colleen 🔥
Both name sounds and spells almost the same 😂
kooleen ballinger
@@Lovangeline poisonous rumor airlines
@@consumingkazoosthe radioactive story jeepney
@@AdelleLawas what the fuck is a jeepney im cryinf that sounds like a name a delusional parent would give to a newborn boy
I'm aroace myself, and while I don't think sexualising an asexual person is worse than sexualising a non-asexual, it does add complexity to the issue. And honestly, I'm commenting this to say that if anyone has any questions about asexuality or aromanticism, you can ask in the replies!! I know a lot about the subject (plus, you know, being aroace myself) and love talking about it so feel free to ask
How did you know you were aroace? Did you know you were one before the other?
@Glitchingstorm for me it was when i noticed that i never had a crush, never felt the meed to get a bf, never had a first kiss in 20 years and never found interest in the topics about dating and blah blah blah and i was okay with it, i was just chilling
Basic shirts are great as an art accessory!
1) jewelry won't get lost in a busy background.
2) tattoos won't blend into patterns/textures
3) it will give the eyes an area to relax.
4) layers
I can go on to defend basic shirts for an actual wardrobe and in Art.
This makes me feel better about having characters with plain shirts!
Also the avatar matches the vibe of her channel, the outfit is basic because it's very relaxed and she want her content to be more, slice of life/relaxed. While she has a past with mental health, it makes her more relatable and the vast majority of her content is either stories, gaming, or things she did like collect a literal room full of plushies
@@darianbarber3763speaking of relatable I am wearing a tie dye t shirt right meow
jaiden has an animation channel, so basic shirts are easier to animate as well !
fr, what does she have against them? she just can’t understand basic things now? 😭
what the hell was that patrick photo... apology video with tears RIGHT now.
YES please 🗣️😅
"Toxic gossip train"
MY EYES ARE ON FIRE RIGHT NOW- WHAT THE HECK?????
or a ukelele
@@NickName-be3li he finna get demonetized
genuinely, theres also such a big issue with the last youtuber she drew because she completely removed every bit of his prominent asian features
the fact that she broke her pattern and refused to reference his real self at _all_, when she referenced the previous youtubers, is so gross to me. like whats with the mix up??
i think even if she wasnt aroace its disgusting and bad to say things like this to literally stranger
i also hate when people say mommy\daddy when want to say someone is attractive
FOR REAL i automatically dislike ppl who use daddy/mommy as a flirting or pining thing
I don't judge the mommy/daddy thing. It's also pretty common in fetish/BDSM communities, but I absolutely agree that comments like that are not really cool unless you know a person is cool with them already. Some people are, some people aren't. I wish we lived in a world where you could just ask what someone is fine with and what they are not and there is no judgement in either direction.
@@vixxcelacea2778Spot on. Saying mommy/daddy and thinking it's hot isn't inherently bad. What IS bad is saying it to someone when you know they hate it.
People cannot say that people are getting defensive because it was only Jayden's avatar when Kooleen pulled things from Jayden's actual picture, like her tattoos. She's blending the two. It's not JUST the avatar.
When I first saw this video I was thinking "people are being a bit sensitive and overprotective of some parasocial connection with Jay, its just a redesign of the avatar"
Then she took stuff from her actual appearance.... and okay, I kinda get it now. If you wanted to do that there was a way to do it without being disrespectful.
Who cares, people are getting upset over pointless things
@@mathieul4303very true
Ok but like, it was still the avatar. I'm gonna be honest, if I was to be redrawing an avatar of someone, I would use their irl self too to be able to add more while also keeping it to being them.
I think that's where everyone were too sensitive. I think she overstepped the line when she called her goth mommy but that's it.
@Lexo_The_Moravian I do think Jay is in general way too sensitive for her own size online. And probably draws in fellow sensitive types or toxic positive people.
But making someone's avatar have real features from them kinda misses the point in my books. I think it's kinda lazy. You should be able to work in details from their content maybe to be like "Oh okay so I'm going to add this because I think it fits this" is more interesting than "here's the real people dressed as their avatar"
i was so confused as to why everyone was talking about patrick.. i saw the first one and thought “oh this isn’t so bad”
then the second one.. by the gods… what have you brought to our eyes. just because you’ve seen it doesn’t mean we have to as well 😭
RIGHT
My situation exactly. I was wondering why people were freaking out about the first one then boom 😭
Omg, same. Like legit I thought the first image looked trashy sure, but not the end of the world, so I thought people were over exaggerating, but then the second Patrick image was shown, and I legit got jumpscared.
I am amused, but I hope the video don't get flagged.
@@KikoElGatito I hope it does cause there are minors watching
We do not need that like why did Muhammed show it
15:35 "individual's lore" really caught me off guard 😭 good way to put it
Basic shirts are my favorite! It’s easier for me to fit them in the color scheme of outfits and/or fit a theme.
Also most of the time,ppl just like something plain and simple and Jayden's animated version of herself is literally casual bc she's telling things that happened to her through her whole life and Jayden also wanted to make the designs more simple bc that way it would make the animating easier and more fluid/smooth
Kooleen try not to get in trouble challenge IMPOSSIBLE
THIS!!!
Thats how they get the clout
@@kurumiii_Z what?
@@KOurboi don’t take it in a mean way, i meant that this comment is speakin’ facts😭
@@kurumiii_Z ok
This is the first video of yours that I have watched and it is genuinely insightful. I love how you look at things through both perspectives, making a decision with that knowledge. I also love your style of this video and the way it looked. It was really engaging and just overall awesome!
10:52 not this person trying to defend It's (kooleen) sick mind. 🤮
Are you implying you dont see koleen as a human(using it instead of her)?
_"Call them monsters if you must, but never deny the evil of the human heart."_
- JP Beaubien
(Author of Aeon Legion and face behind Terrible Writing Advice)
Not shilling, just really like the saying
10:57 a joke on someone's expense are just sugarcoated insults
Yeah, that's how they really feel
Off topic, but that is what I like about surreal humor. Traditional jokes so often follow the format of 'bad thing happens to guy I don't like'/'guy I don't like is stupid', while surreal humor is based on mutual understanding and agreement ('we both agree this is funny, so it is, even if it makes no sense').
i was "NOT" expecting the patrick photo T-T
A censor bar would have been greatly appreciated DX
9:48 Honestly I THINK she was talking about her avatar but she worded it so badly. I think Koolleen just does/says things without giving it a second thought or thinking of the consequences and that’s her downfall.
I think the same
Even if she was talking about the avatar it would still be unacceptable. Jaiden made that avatar as a representation of herself, and it is likely important to her. There‘s a difference between constructive criticism and outright insults.
The thing is, this wasn’t a live. She edited it, did a voice over, and posted it. At any stage she could’ve decided not to say (or just cut them out) the inappropriate parts.
@@octaviawinter9768This and it's same ways she recorded, did a voice over and edited the video that had people calling her out for being racist.
i literally could not care less abt this topic but ur voice is fantastic so im gonna keep watching
13:25 she made him look like human spongebob 💀
I initially thought it *was* human Spongebob lol
Real😭💀
Dude. Actually Spob...
HOW DID THAT PATRICK PICTURE GO THROUGH TH-camS MODERATION..
This video is gonna be demonetized p soon
@@dootdoot5617was it uncensored before?
Wait what time stamp is it?
@@Rosa-kd2cl 2:39 😨
koleen calling jaden goth mommy makes me extremely upset
thank you so much for the subtitles ! english isn't my native language, and i also have troubles with my hearing, so I'm very grateful you include them in your videos ❤
I saw people commenting about the Patrick photo and I thought it was about the first meme picture BUT THEN I SAW THE SECOND ONE AND MY WORLD WAS SHAKEN. UTTERLY DESTROYED. I WILL NEVER RECOVER FINANCIALLY FROM THE KNOWLEDGE IT EXISTS
Pftt😂
Like why did he feel the need to even show that to us 😭
Can someone timestamp what in the world is everyone talking about?
can't we just forget koleen even existed in the first place already, it's not like anything she draws is any memorable either so why does anyone even care
THIS
it's like AI art but made by a person
bc ppl are chronically online and would live off of internet "dramas" that they exaggerate for entertainment
@@notreal9214 its almost like ai art is made by training the ai with actual artists art 😭
On it boss o7 as soon as i finish this video im gonna forget they ever existed and go back to only watching my usual fish facts videos boss
I love that you included a nice little respectful learning moment, it was very sweet and wholesome for some reason !
Im glad i was blessed by the algorithm with this video, thanks for wading through the depths of the internet for us
Every time on the internet there is not a day that goes by without hearing that koolen has done some thing to upset the art community as a whole
😭😭😭
You can tell common sense does not exist in her head, and or she does this on purpose for the sake of starting drama. Though I am betting on the former rather than the latter.
@@thisislame2207many artists are known for going against an establish3d intrenched faction that stifles creativity for unfounded and generally falsely pretensed moral authority that in practice is seldom enforced unless the art or artist in question is in opposition to the controlling group. The hays code comes to mind. This sort of thing really does point out the insanity of such a system.
Right, its just.. sharp inhale through teeth lmao. Yikes, just yikes.
@@casematecardinalI mean, the Patrickussy in this video was more relevant to the Hays code comparison than Kooleen, as it’s going against potential, actual TH-cam censorship. Kooleen was just being a bit of a tit, not fighting suppression. If you insult someone, especially someone like jaiden, it’s fair for people to get annoyed about it.
SIR!! out of all the pictures of Patrick, `WHY THAT ONE?!`
🤣
You just got yourself a new sub. This was really insightful and I love how you looked at both sides of it to make sure you weren’t only getting one part of the picture. You did your research and broke everything down so that there were no misunderstandings!
13:54 Buddy had to inhale like Ace Ventura to read all that
(I'm genuinely thankful that you read that, cause I'm *way* too lazy to read all of that💀)
MOHAMMED.. PATRICK PICTURE.... 😭😭😭😭PHONE, TABLE, NOW.
Really like neoowwwwwuh! 😭😭
When???
@@funky_authorist.official 2:38
@@funky_authorist.official 2:38
The Patrick took me out 😂 🤦🏾♀
😭😭😭😭
@@MohammedAgbadi crazy photo goes fire
I can never unsee that
When
13:13 man she's just making oc's atp who is that
I skipped to this before watching the video and there was no way in hell I could have guessed who that was
reminds me of spongebob squarepants
@@whokilled_sophiait literally is spongebob 😭
I don't really know much about Koolen but from what I've seen she's the type of thing I'll stay in a safe distance
pretty sure she is just rage bait. that's why i'm trying my best not to watch, comment or interact with her. (mainly through reaction videos).
knowing her past behaviour I hope she doesn't find you and "yassifies" you. who knows what kind of features will be taken away from you. xD
Edit: Could y'all plesse stoo interacting with the one saying "i have thick skin, it wouldn't bother me". You're rage baiting yourself at this point.
Although they missed my point, it's clear what they're trying to achieve under a comment talking about rage bait.
oh hell nah you know she'd make him white and remove his jawline and nose 😭
I'm with you. I can't stand watching all these channels that just curse and act all hateful. They make me so annoyed.
She Will de nibbafied him lol
Being a Filipino, this might not be ragebait, it might just be that Koleen is a drama queen. Yes, she's baiting people, but not to get reactions, instead for the drama and being the center of attention
Yeah, I'm glad I'm not watching her content, especially ever since that "gorilla" incident
Dude she turned the odd1sout into a twinky SpongeBob humanisation I’m crying
Considering the exploitation of Jaidens avatar in x-rated spaces, it wasn’t the move to choose real people regardless of it being a cartoon representation.
I appreciate you add closed captions because English isn't my first language 😭 I still can understand it but this single fact made me enjoy the video even more
2:38 now why on GOD'S EARTH would you show that
And, *how* on God's earth did he manage to upload it on TH-cam?
Exactly my problem
Thank you putting a time stamp so I could look away before I saw it too! :)
Love your reaction to learning the definition of Aro-Ace. No questioning whether it's real or possible or calling it strange, just reading and accepting.
You're awesome, thanks.
Duuude I love your voice, super relaxing
8:30 for your information, I am currently wearing the official whataburger pajamas
Its so weird for her to take someones personal representation of themself, insult it, then find a pic of the actual person and sexualize them. To anyone but also for someone who has been very public about being aroace and not wanting to be sexualized and her past body dysmorphia. There is a line and kooleen crossed it several times over, starting with choosing a real person to "yassify" (also just call it a glowup? The art she does is not faithful to the drag origins and is not really yassifying so she should call it something else idk)
You're making it much more than it is
How@@pufflord_gamesonicsoloesyo2365
Stop pretending she drew the actual girl, Jaden is NOT The fictional character she draws in her videos.
@@toppi. so why did she reference actual photos of Jaiden and use Jaidens real life tattoos? 🤔
Not everything has to be yessafied or sexy, especially if they are real people.
Love the video! Thanks for talking about this!
W
i think what got me especially was how she yassified james - instead of yassifying his insert character into some, like, hot mr clean dude she felt the need to yassify his irl appearance. i suppose u could argue that his insert character would make it more challenging (given her artstyle) but i dont think it wouldve been *that* much harder to just draw one of her kpop idols bald or smn - directly yassifying people's real appearances just feels so incredibly-disrespectful to me. i doubt it was done w any ill-intent and (in all honesty) i dont think he'd personally care too much, but i could imagine feeling kind of hurt and uncomfortable having that done to my image; w how she presented it, it didnt feel like her drawing him in her art style but (instead) her improving his appearance.
idk though, i could be vastly-overthinking it
this.^^^
yassifying real people (OR their sonas- esp if that sona is basically just them) is so wrong. if you REALLY want to do it, check if they’re fine with that kinda stuff first- and if you can’t find anything, try to reach out to them and ask them.
if they aren’t fine with it, or you don’t get an answer, just.. don’t do it. that’s a real person, not a fictional character. some use their characters to represent themselves- like vtubers- and see that character as an extension of them, whether it looks like them or not (one example I can think of being cyyu) so making inappropriate content of e characters I equivalent to making inappropriate content of the person themself. and it’s weird as shit.
agree
This video was the exact time duration of my lunch today, thank you!
even if it is just the avatar, artists can have a deep personal connection with their avatar/oc and things you say about them may directly impact the artists too
"i made her inner mommy come out" made me puke in my mouth a little good god 😭
just end me
Are you feeling it now Mr.Krabs 💀
Lmfao
Ah hell nah XD
You have a very calming voice and I like your accent
Jaiden is one of the most relatable youtubers and people I've ever heard of as I'm ace as well and I also have mental health issues that she has/had. Hearing what kooleen said when yassifying jaiden made me super uncomfortable so I can only imagine how jaiden herself would feel. Thank you Mohammed for being so respectful to jaiden and acknowledging her boundaries and mental health instead of just saying that people were overreacting. Definitely one of the best commentary channels I've come across❤️
8:00 the reason the shirt is like that is because it takes less time to draw a design on the shirt you would think a fellow artist would know that
Yes and it's just more or less better for animating!
She know that
@TheAroSpecWallet grow up
@mrpickles-hb6zx b, you grow up! what are you on?! touch grass!!!
Nigga... she was joking. Are you guys just ignoring her obvious over-the-top tone on purpose? Are you looking for reasons to dislike her? Are you trying to justify your hatred? Bet ya wouldn't care if she was black or hispanic saying this. God forbid someone not black or hispanic is edgy... good lord bro, can't make this stuff up.
TLDR: respect people boundaries and don’t be weird espically if they express that they don’t wanna be sexualize. Cause unfortunately around two years ago I think. Jaiden had gotten a lot of people draw NSFW art work of her. That’s why she’s not okay with people sexualizing her along with the fact that’s she’s ace
Edit: these comments sections are making my head hurts
Listen, they're not making art of Jaiden, they're making art of her OC.
This is what happens when you make your oc you, this is what happens to anyones oc
it's actually happening more after her coming out video, it's disgusting how these artists and people treat her just because she's a girl ☹
Edit: LMFAOO some of y’all doing tricks on kooleen in the replies 💀
@@sirgentlebread7302They quite literally are making art of her. That avatar shown in her videos is a representation of her, her avatar LOOKS like her. So it's still weird and massively disrespectful.
@@falcon_arkaig You don't get it
When somebody makes fanart of Hermione Granger, are they making fanart of Hermione Granger or Emma Watson?
@@verrrrrr.Lmao they just lewd her art. Y'all get triggered over pixels
i rly appreciate how you admitted you didn't know that Aro/Ace was and paused to search it up :) icon energy ngl
I just think people need to stop stirring a whole soup of drama over something so... pointless and simple.
One of few art discourses that's actually understandable.
Sexualizing ppl's self-inserts/persona is not at all okay imo considering it's suppose to be them. Yes, some ppl are ok with it but not everyone is. It's not "them" literally, but it's an abstraction that they've design to represent themselves. If Kooleen was gonna "yassify" Jaiden's self-insert, could she have had the common sense and decency to at least NOT reference her actual face? 🤦🏾♀️
Starting to think she does/says questionable shit cuz she knows she's gonna get clicks for it.
You hit the nail on the head, she's the Asmongold of the art community
Exactly, it was really random and unnecessary for Kooleen to put up a picture of Jaiden irl and comment about her appearance. Instead of using her real life photo as reference, she should've been more creative and redraw Jaiden's avatar in her own style or use her VTuber design as another reference.
It’s literally all for clicks because she finds it hilarious, and people will ALWAYS defend her
MHM self inserts and personas ect Should not be sexualized when a person's CLEARLY said not to. I'm an aroace also, and I was raped as a child leaving me permanently damaged both mentally and physically, so anytime anyone even says anything to me, I lash out at myself and usually end up on the floor bleeding, I've been seeing MANH therapists and psychologists, but there isn't a cure for what happened, the fact people can't fucking understand COMMON KNOWLEDGE and consent is disgusting
Then it should all come under "My oc don't steal" territory like everyone's self-inserts? and like no one needs to DTIYS recognized self-inserts then?
Here I am feeling lowkey guilty simply for finding certain content creators attractive, meanwhile people like this feel the need to be disrespectful and creepy about it.
I've only ever heard "goth mommy" used on fictional characters until now and I can't imagine being so socially inept as to use it on a real person who I don't even know lmao
Thoughts don't make you creepy. Actions do.
This exactly. Do you have any idea how creepy I felt even thinking about holding someone I knew in real lifes hand? How can someone do this and see nothing wrong??
@@arandom7595 ...you're not creepy for that. That is literally apart of human normality. That is physical socialization. That is an actual problem, like on a level.
@@pufflord_gamesonicsoloesyo2365 yeah, I'm working on my reactions to physical contact and expressing my emotions. I'm slowly getting better :].
@@arandom7595 Well, I'm glad. And if I may, from one stranger to another, don't be so quick to shame yourself. If you're not sure about something, that's fine. Making yourself out to be some kinda villain or something isn't right. Keep it up though, and best of luck!
4:55 "makes sense"
Does it? Because I feel like that description made it sound way more complicated than it actually is.😅
So shorter version:
Asexual (Ace) - Not sexually attracted to anyone
Aromantic (Aro) - Not able to form romantical bonds
AroAce - being both Aromantic and Asexual.
I love watching commentary videos about people i never heard about. Also thank you for explaining the terms.I know nothing about these things
MY GRANDMA WAS IN THE ROOM WHEN THE PATRICK PICTURE POPPED UP WTFFF
Rest in peace
Nice, I hope she started you down and backed out of the room in fear.
At 14:14 that person REALLY went off. Kudos to the. Holy shit.
*them
@@P3arl3sc3nt.you can edit comments
The pure terror when I saw that one Patrick picture makes my jaw falling for a whole damn minute.😭 We definitely getting our childhood ruin with this one💀
8:24 REAL
As a fellow aroace, if someone took my art account avatars/sonas and "yassified" them while making a bunch of sexual comments about them I WOULD BLOCK THEM IN EVERY PLATFORM POSSIBLE. Even tho mime dont look as much as me as Jayden's. Also given koolen used IRL Jayden as a reference, thats disgusting. I'd cry.
At the point that someone made it clear they don't like sexual comments or being sexualized and someone still does it, THAT'S SEXUAL HARASSMENT.
Also cultural (mis)appropriation of the black community and AA(V)E?
Why oa, block me later... Imagine. Instead of a stranger trying to friends you will identify them as your enemy because you don't like how they approach you. I mean you will not die in changes to a bunch pixels without a big reason. You have every reason to protect yourself from danger and bad things. But spamming hate because of mindset is just straight toxic. She didn't even make nswf like what people do politicians or what call like vandalizing or boyism act like rule 34. It is just a fan art. 😢 I really don't know why guys are acting aggressive just for supporting someone. I wish someday guys you learned how cyber bullying works. And not pretend to not guilty to your action.
@@jeusmarcomascarina4102 Making SEXUAL COMMENTS like calling her a GOTH MOMMY TOWARDS someone that has already said they DON'T want any of that is SEXUAL HARASSMENT.
If the way someone, A STRANGER, approaches me is by making weird SEXUAL comments about me I rather have NOTHING to do with them. THEY ARE BEING CREEPS.
I AM NOT OBLIGATED TO BEFRIEND ANYONE I DON'T WANT, MUCH LESS A CREEP.
@@marnadnay she wasnt right for calling someone she doesnt know goth mommy, but holy, you guys apparently wanna kill her for this mistake lmao just say it wasnt right and move on, i would understand if she was actively commenting like omg i would fuck her !! but no, its literally just a meme. and no, she isnt right, but what you guys are doing isnt either.
@@jeusmarcomascarina4102 Unwanted sexual comments towards someone is legit sexual harassment. Jaiden is a REAL PERSON who has openly stated she does NOT want these comments made about or towards her. Would you go up to a stranger and call them a "goth mommy" or other sexual things IRL? If not, then why make that same advance online? The comments are still directed at a real person, and what you say online still has consequence whether we like it or not. Sexual harassment is a real thing, especially online spaces.
2:37 did not expect to see that
brooo
I'm flabbergasted 💀
!
I get the chills hearing her talk, in a bad way. I struggle to believe she talks like that normally 😭
Yours on the other hand sounds very soothing. Thanks for the vid?
THE PATRICK PHOTO
APOLOGY WITH TEARS RN
People need to look up what "Avatar" means... It's a representation of a person, and in this case, Jaiden quite literally uses that avatar as herself online. It's kinda fucked up to judge what she prefers to see herself as on the internet
For the love of all that is holy, she was JOKING! I've never watched a Kooleen video a DAY in my LIFE and I CAN TELL. Why the ACTUAL HELL is it so hard for "PEOPLE" to see that?
@@pufflord_gamesonicsoloesyo2365 Freedom of speech honey, you say something fucked up - you get consequences. People like you wanna hide behind "it's just a joke" shield all their life but nobody around is dumb. Nobody gives a f about lame excuses. Grow up.
@@pufflord_gamesonicsoloesyo2365 hey, just letting you know, calling something a joke doesnt make it okay 💕 if someone says its funny to be racist or misogynistic or to hurt people that doesnt somehow make it funny, same way saying its funny to blatantly insult and disrespect someones boundaries doesnt somehow make it funny 💕💕💕 so maybe you should try doing the seeing
@@ariannebrodeur You're being hateful. It's genuinely appalling. And I'm very confident in what I'm saying, don't get the wrong idea. This reaction is as baseless and senseless as it gets.
@@pufflord_gamesonicsoloesyo2365 lol they were being anything but hateful; do you know what hateful means?
I can't really draw bald men well, but at least try! What is the point of a challenge where you draw their avatars if you're not going to draw the avatars?? Like personally with Jaiden from a drawing perspective I was like "hmm.." but with James/TheOdd1sOut you're LITERALLY yassifying a real person. Just straight up drawing a "hotter" version of a real man. That's so weird to me
It's just "I can fix him" with extra steps. Like, why don't you leave people alone for not looking how you want and go find someone that actually looks like that for yourself, or spend time bettering yourself as a person (we all know these people won't though). It's like the toxic guys on tiktok saying all the things to never accept about a woman, that literally boil down to "how dare she have curves. Or acne. Or a personality. Unacceptable".
Hmm. Maybe an unpopular opinion, but why would you watch a video where the purpose is to yassify people and then get mad when that's when they do? Making them more conventionally attractive is the point. I understand people being upset about her choosing to do so to the avatar of a person who struggles with body image, but she just commented on the avatar. Kooleen is doing what she said she'd be doing. I don't really see a problem.
Your voice is easy to listen to. Thank you for the video.
i agree with your opinion, almost slept one time while watching his videos