additional context on Jaiden: some time ago she had to make a statement she doesn’t want anyone drawing 18+ art of her/her avatar and weird ppl got mad and created even more to spite her. It’s beyond just her being aroace, it’s her boundaries no matter her identity and her history of being made into 18+ art in the past, she was being harassed. i understand being aroace adds another layer of bad but it’s not the sole reason and it’d still be just as awful if she wasn’t ace. no one deserves such treatment.
@@Tubatu4419 her drawing wasn't 18+. however she made sexual comments towards jaiden in the video. 18+ fanarts is a separate issue, im just adding context as to why ppl are upset.
This is very important, because the people who are saying that Jaiden said she doesn't want those kind of comments to be made about her and then implying that it's solely because she's aroace are surely coming from a good place, but it's not good to act like all aroace people think and feel the same about this topic. Of course the fact that Jaiden is aroace probably adds to the reasons why she's unconfortable with this, but it's not like all aroace people would also be.
The sad thing is, Jaiden said she doesn't want people sexualizing her, yet I somehow randomly always stumble upon NSFW ai chatbots of her, even one that glorified r@p3.
Well I mean she's being honest at least. Just way too honest- but hey, pretty sure it's much more scarier if they're the silent/mixed manipulatice type of person
Even if Jaiden wasn’t aro/ace, Kooleen calling her a "goth mommy" is really gross. Jaiden has made it clear that she doesn't feel comfortable when people draw nsfw art of her or her avatar or when they make inappropriate comments towards her, Kooleen is basically disrespecting Jaiden's boundaries because she wants to make her "hot" I've always found Kooleen's obsession of unrealistic beauty in her drawings to be really weird. It's shown when she refuses to "yassify" James avatar because she "can't yassify a naked baled guy" so instead uses a REAL LIFE picture of James (btw the final drawing of him was really bad). Her art just feels so soulless and uncreative because of that, and I really hate putting people's art down, but I genuinely think that Kooleen needs a ego check
@@TrueNeneYashirowhile not nsfw explicitly, it was slightly suggestive, but the jaiden thing was mostly about kooleen calling her a ‘goth mommy’ which jaiden has very openly said multiple times she doesn’t want any sexual comments of that nature at all
@@TrueNeneYashiroi think it has to do with the weird Goth Mommy comments, that many people felt uncomfy, plus many peeps trying to remind Koleen of Jaiden’s boundary. Plus, with the hindsight that Jaiden had severe body dysmorphia and had suffered ED (which are videos that Jaiden publicly discussed years ago), they really dont like the yassification process (cuz making Jaiden looking like the ideal beauty). It would’ve been better if she sticked with their avatar instead of the irl looks of the cc, so that she wouldnt be in the mess, and would have a good excuse of using their avatars instead of their irl looks.
@@TrueNeneYashiro while she didn't draw nsfw art of Jaiden, she made a lot of inappropriate comments towards her, such as calling her a "goth mommy" but also said something on the lines of "I'll give her all the lip fillers she needs" keep in mind she's saying this while using a real life photo of Jaiden as a reference
she's just like those 13yo girls in popular fandoms which took a bald character (like Sans) and put hair over them because they think bald people are ugly
To be fair, sans' canon design is *a skeleton*. Skeletons don't have hair, yes, but it doesn't mean his human version necessary has to be bald? If an artist draws their human version with hair what's the problem? It doesn't in fact contradict anything. I'm just confused, not trying to be mean
@vivierinda4399nah it just looks better sorry if i sound toxic but it does depwnds on how u draw tgem lkke j saw how an artist drew baldie and O LALA😭
@@Kristaaaaau can you really say you love that character tho if the very essence of them (for this example, being bald) was taken out and replaced by something that makes them have almost zero resemblance to the canon design, making, yet again, just another generically good looking, factory produced, anime guy. exactly. you only like the idea of the character and cannot accept wholly who they are, bald spots and all 😤 //jk kinda
I genuinely respect Mohammed so much for going, “oh I didn’t know this thing existed, cool now I’m better informed!” I feel like the Internet has really poisoned my expectations on people learning new things.
I'm so used to us ace aro people getting shamed for being open about it and actively told what we are doesn't exist that I tensed up when it was brought up but I was relieved to see I was worrying over nothing this time 😅
@@arsena5209 Terrible mindset. Don't let others control what is or isn't yours. As a mixed person, never feeling I fit in on other side, it only made me less happy. Owning everything you are in it's entirety is crucial to being happy. Even if people denounce a part of you, understand they could just be ignorant. But regardless, you are who you are, you know that, and that's what matters. That realization made me infinitely more comfortable with both sides of my family. It goes a long way. Cheers
Not to be an ass, but I absolutely hate the emphasis on Jaiden being aroace as an argument against her being sexualized and not being called mommy and stuff like that. As if it is okay to do to anyone regardless of sexuality? It wouldn't be okay even if she wasn't aroace. Can we just not sexualize people without their consent in the first place? Can we just be normal about people online?
@@SaintOrion-333 that's not making it better. It's not worse to sexualize someone when they don't want that when they're aroace versus when they are. It's not more okay to sexualize/sexually harass someone when they're not aroace.
@@SaintOrion-333 but by saying it makes it worse does indirectly insinuate that it's more socially acceptable to sexualize someone with sexual attraction to others. Saying she's asexual makes it worse is similar to saying a straight man sexualizing a lesbian is worse than a straight woman, WHEN BOTH ARE EQUALLY BAD. It's worse because Jaiden has been vocal about her being uncomfortable with being sexualized, when some content creators have been vocal about being okay with that content (think TH-camrs reading their own fanfics), but her sexuality doesn't change her rank in the severity of being a victim of sexualization and harassment. By saying one type of harassment is worse minimizes other forms indirectly and does more harm
Basic shirts are great as an art accessory! 1) jewelry won't get lost in a busy background. 2) tattoos won't blend into patterns/textures 3) it will give the eyes an area to relax. 4) layers I can go on to defend basic shirts for an actual wardrobe and in Art.
Also the avatar matches the vibe of her channel, the outfit is basic because it's very relaxed and she want her content to be more, slice of life/relaxed. While she has a past with mental health, it makes her more relatable and the vast majority of her content is either stories, gaming, or things she did like collect a literal room full of plushies
"I could not yassify a naked bald guy." Why? Because you lack imagination? If she did just yassify his regular avatar, that would have actually been kinda funny.
Remember, the only real people you should be openly sexualizing are significant others who consent to it. Having a crush on someone is fine, but don’t go around talking about them sexually unless they’re okay with it.
Right?! People don't need to openly say they don't want to be sexualized to not get sexualized. Koolen didn't make an "inoccent error" by not researching about Jaiden's story on self image, she sexualized a person and that's her mistake, period.
Yeah, exactly. What Kooleen did was catcalling. It doesn’t even matter if Kooleen knew what Jaiden went through because Kooleen shouldn’t have been sexualizing Jaiden in the first place. Jaiden is a complete stranger and Kooleen never asked if it was okay to talk like that about her.
@@vivil2533 Time and place where we give our consent is honestly so important IMO. Like when I go on Grindr for example, it's common to be sexualized. It's one of the points of the app though and I don't actively discourage it, so I'm much more forgiving if people are like that (to a point of course). But if I'm just going about my day and somebody starts really going in on the compliments, I'm likely to feel uncomfortable. Especially because I'm not straight, and I've run into really awkward situations before publicly whether it be some random stranger flirting with me or suggesting I get a girlfriend. Both can be frustrating to deal with when I'm likely just minding my own business or started with small talk if we were already talking. Even if they align with my preference, sometimes I'm just not looking for something at that moment. People get so concerned about finding someone in life that they don't realize the easiest way to do it is to go to places where people are actually looking for that kind of attention. Not in your workplace or other public spaces.
Dude, i cant describe hie grateful i am for the subtitles. I'm not s native English speaker and you puting them really helps me to learn snd understand. Love your content too ❤
As a NSFW creator, the Patricussy doesn't scare me (I still don't want to see that ever again.) Kooleen is very weak that she can't yassify a "naked bald guy". Pah! Her comments were inappropriate, especially if people expressed discomfort about this in the past. And if you don't know a person's boundaries, then just don't talk like that, it is literally that simple.
Another case of insensitive Filipino artists again.. haaah I'm tired of my countrymen being sometimes like this, it's basically part of our culture to gossip about people and not care about how they feel, so it probably extended to Koleen's view of people as a whole, especially with what she did with Jaiden. Tsk. 😕
Boundaries? On the internet? Thats not how it works. You of all people should know that. And the hypocrisy of such a statement to boot. The moral police are p*** addicted weirdos who must view everything through a lense of debauchery. Your high horse sank into the earth long ago.
I understand what you mean but based on your comment about the personal boundaries how much does she needs to research about someone to have the right to do a FanArt OR use them as a reference? Search on Googles Jaden boundaries or search Jaden Traumas or maybe just watch every single video Jaden posted to have the right to draw her? I'm not making fun of you nor been disrespectful , I'm really curious, how much do you consider an artist HAVE to know about someone to have to freedom to draw them or use them as a reference She simply may not know Jaden's Traumans, know days we follow a lot of people in social media, is kind of unrealistic to expect everyone to know every trauma about everyone, just because you know the trauma of someone that doesn't mean every one knows, Traumas, pets, past relationships, crimimal history there's a lot about every individual you would have to take into consideration I understand wanting to protect Jaden and I too think the comments were of bad taste BUT shouldn't we give people the right to express the self how they want or the right for and artist to present their work how they want? Saying that she simply shouldn't draw if she doesn't fullfil you personal check list of what to do or not do is kind of arrogant The best we can do is simply not support the content we don't like but taking away the right to do a draw something you wanted is going to far Thia is not an attack, I trying to present mu Ideas respectfully if you disagree I hope we mage to keep the conversation respectful
As an ace person myself that's very insecure about my body, if anyone just paused on a frame of me and made weird remarks about my body and then drew "me" that's just more conventionally attracted... I would feel sick in the stomach. Not to mention it's kinda contradictory. Not only they crossed a boundary of mine, made the situation weird for views and likes. But also "complimented" me just to "fix" me. So they would make me uncomfortable for no f reason before drawing my prettier doppelganger. W t f.
Yeah, it’s weird to do that to anyone, but especially someone who has been fairly open about suffering from body dysmorphia and has also publicly said “hey, I’m not really into sex” (yes being aroace is WAY more complicated, I’m just simplifying). Also, being a fellow ace person, I would be too. Actually, I’d probably just break down crying tbh.
and people always defend her like koolen can’t successfully draw anyone who isn’t conventionally attractive / anime boy / anime girl v shaped chin tiny nose and “jUicY lips” she has a LOT of more learning to do 😭
It's so awful. As an ace as well and one who have had multiple eating disorders, her bashing Jaiden the entire time while going past so many boundaries was just jaw-dropping. She couldn't even try drawing Odd1sOut, but she had to "yassify" a person who has literally stated she doesn't like that sort of thing.
The thing is, if Kooleen was yassifying the avatar, why did she add the irl Jayden's tattoos specifically? Could've been like "oh and she has tattoos irl, could take some inspiration and add tattoos" but she specifically drew the tattoos Jayden has irl
@@SussyDussyCat it's an argument that could be used to defend her. If she wasn't yassifying the avatar, then she did an absolutely awful thing, "redesigming" real people
@@sabsain2399 I’m LesbianAce myself (I’m lesbian but I still don’t feel any sexual attraction to anyone, only romantic/platonic feelings) and from my personal experience I’ve seen a lot of “supporting” people immediately look down on people if they aren’t the “classic” Gay/Lesbian/Trans and sometimes even if they are actually supportive they don’t look it up if they don’t really know what it is which could spread misinformation. I’m just saying that I’m glad that he actually looked it up because he didn’t know it because of what I’ve seen in my own experiences :]
@@Hahshdhbcbcyoutube Sexual attraction is when someone feels sexual interest in someone else. Romantic attraction is more things like cuddling and holding hands rather than actually wanting sexual intimacy with someone. Keep in mind that everyone has different preferences and boundaries so different people who are asexual may have different levels and preferences when it comes to those feelings. For example, I personally don’t really feel any se Hal desire to anyone at all but someone else may be a bit mire open (meaning that they may not directly seek it out but it still is something they’d be interested in)
If she was “just talking about the avatar” and only doing a yassification based on it then why did she pull up an actual picture of her for reference. It makes it hard to tell when she’s criticizing her or the avatar
right at the end she literally compared the avatar and her drawing dumass 😭 taking a reference from the irl while avatar has barely any good references and is just so simple is hard to "yassify" I guess? look over the whole situation first until hating on someone, peace
To the 1st reply: they are right to be mad. Calling someone goth mommy is very bad. Especially is they verbally said they don't want to be called that.
@@livetochange974 1. Kooleen said racist things. Yes she apologized but it was very half-assed 2. Jaiden didn’t want to be called Goth Mommy. She is clearly uncomfortable with being called that. Calling people sensitive over subjects that they have the right to be pissed off about is insensitive.
The people in this comment section that are defending Kooleen make me genuinely uncomfortable. Like, if you're not uncomfortable in your body, or see bad things about yourself or someone commenting on yourself or your looks, then good for you. But Jaiden does feel uncomfortable. Especially when being sexualized. I personally also feel uncomfortable in my body, and I'd be incredibly uncomfortable if someone took a picture of me and "fixed" or sexualized how i looked with their words or a drawing.
People cannot say that people are getting defensive because it was only Jayden's avatar when Kooleen pulled things from Jayden's actual picture, like her tattoos. She's blending the two. It's not JUST the avatar.
When I first saw this video I was thinking "people are being a bit sensitive and overprotective of some parasocial connection with Jay, its just a redesign of the avatar" Then she took stuff from her actual appearance.... and okay, I kinda get it now. If you wanted to do that there was a way to do it without being disrespectful.
Ok but like, it was still the avatar. I'm gonna be honest, if I was to be redrawing an avatar of someone, I would use their irl self too to be able to add more while also keeping it to being them. I think that's where everyone were too sensitive. I think she overstepped the line when she called her goth mommy but that's it.
@Lexo_The_Moravian I do think Jay is in general way too sensitive for her own size online. And probably draws in fellow sensitive types or toxic positive people. But making someone's avatar have real features from them kinda misses the point in my books. I think it's kinda lazy. You should be able to work in details from their content maybe to be like "Oh okay so I'm going to add this because I think it fits this" is more interesting than "here's the real people dressed as their avatar"
People who animate tend to use simple designs for an animation because of not wanting to draw straight details on each frame, that most of the time it’s 12-20 frames per second.
Regardless of if simple designs are necessary or not, they are still simple. It’s not offensive to point that out, it simply is what it is. Idk why that out of all things is being used as ammo against Koolean. You can tell there wasn’t any malice whenever she brought it up
I guess we're supposed to ask permission before even calling anyone hot nowadays? I mean, ffs, the whole 'mommy' thing is a meme. Everyone should chill.
@@ANPC-pi9vu Kooleen is the one being a weirdo and a bad person and you're telling other people to chill? You're the one getting upset over people calling someone out for their terrible behaviour.
@@ANPC-pi9vuThe main problem is that this is a boundary that Jaiden has placed SEVERAL times. She is uncomfortable with people talking about her in that way and with her avatar being sexualized. It’s basic decency.
@@ANPC-pi9vu I think calling someone "mommy" with sexual intent, especially when that person has expressed explicitly that they dislike being sexualized, is not the same as calling them hot. Had koolean just expressed that she thinks Jaiden is pretty, that would be totally fine! But "mommy" in this context is a porn term. A porn term koolean used to refer to an asexual creator who has a history of being sexualized on r34.
@ 5:15 as an ace person who’s stuck w you on autoplay and digging it :’) yassssssss, i smile-laughed :) i broke my preconception, you learned; and for whatever reason for me, that was the most lovely moment and i began laughing wildly lol. Thank you for being you, wishing you well :) also honestly i appreciate when we learn as we go and grow, thank you for platforming such lovey behaviour.
I saw people commenting about the Patrick photo and I thought it was about the first meme picture BUT THEN I SAW THE SECOND ONE AND MY WORLD WAS SHAKEN. UTTERLY DESTROYED. I WILL NEVER RECOVER FINANCIALLY FROM THE KNOWLEDGE IT EXISTS
i think even if she wasnt aroace its disgusting and bad to say things like this to literally stranger i also hate when people say mommy\daddy when want to say someone is attractive
I don't judge the mommy/daddy thing. It's also pretty common in fetish/BDSM communities, but I absolutely agree that comments like that are not really cool unless you know a person is cool with them already. Some people are, some people aren't. I wish we lived in a world where you could just ask what someone is fine with and what they are not and there is no judgement in either direction.
@@vixxcelacea2778Spot on. Saying mommy/daddy and thinking it's hot isn't inherently bad. What IS bad is saying it to someone when you know they hate it.
I agree I mean I’m okay with terms mommy/daddy but if it with your partner or fictional character you like but a real person you don’t know(I mean really know not someone you heard of/know of) not knowing if there okay with it and let’s be real it’s be so weird and uncomfortable when someone called you mommy/daddy especially a stranger.. I know I would
This drama already over (i think) because i saw the video and it's almost a year itself. This drama just repeating and repeating by years, idk why people hasn't finished this drama. I'm not offending y'all's opinions and am not at side of kooleen. Because am not with everyone. We already know shes gonna ignored it completely but... as a watcher of kooleen, she can be informative, funny, but others still hating on her on old dramas like wtf
i was so confused as to why everyone was talking about patrick.. i saw the first one and thought “oh this isn’t so bad” then the second one.. by the gods… what have you brought to our eyes. just because you’ve seen it doesn’t mean we have to as well 😭
Omg, same. Like legit I thought the first image looked trashy sure, but not the end of the world, so I thought people were over exaggerating, but then the second Patrick image was shown, and I legit got jumpscared. I am amused, but I hope the video don't get flagged.
I like this guy. He’s so open to learning new things, doesn’t criticize things he isn’t familiar with and doesn’t make unnecessary jokes. It’s crazy how rare this trait is among humans. Awesome video and a sub :)
The "she's just yassifying the AVATAR, not the artist" argument really falls apart when you watch her literally using real life reference photos of the creators so she can make the avatars look more like them 🙄 She literally ends up yassifying the creators instead of the avatars, because she's so unimaginative she can't work from just the cartoon-design.
I'm sorry, but your argument makes no sense whatsoever 😂😂 Ikr, she is SOOO unimaginative, why can't she make a yassified version of a cartoon character??? It's not like the character she is using as reference has absolutely no distinct features other than the hair. Jaidens avatar literally has a circle head, dot eyes, a line for a mouth, and a bland t-shirt. What did you expect kooleen to do???
The point of the video is to make the avatars into conventionally attractive characters in her style. Like models or something. Of course she's gonna swap out the basic shirt. This isn't even the part of the video with a problem 🙄. The problem with the video was her pulling up that screenshot and making those stupid comments. That's what's tainting the rest of the video in your eyes. That and the mass outrage. Crowd mentality at its finest.
i think what got me especially was how she yassified james - instead of yassifying his insert character into some, like, hot mr clean dude she felt the need to yassify his irl appearance. i suppose u could argue that his insert character would make it more challenging (given her artstyle) but i dont think it wouldve been *that* much harder to just draw one of her kpop idols bald or smn - directly yassifying people's real appearances just feels so incredibly-disrespectful to me. i doubt it was done w any ill-intent and (in all honesty) i dont think he'd personally care too much, but i could imagine feeling kind of hurt and uncomfortable having that done to my image; w how she presented it, it didnt feel like her drawing him in her art style but (instead) her improving his appearance. idk though, i could be vastly-overthinking it
this.^^^ yassifying real people (OR their sonas- esp if that sona is basically just them) is so wrong. if you REALLY want to do it, check if they’re fine with that kinda stuff first- and if you can’t find anything, try to reach out to them and ask them. if they aren’t fine with it, or you don’t get an answer, just.. don’t do it. that’s a real person, not a fictional character. some use their characters to represent themselves- like vtubers- and see that character as an extension of them, whether it looks like them or not (one example I can think of being cyyu) so making inappropriate content of e characters I equivalent to making inappropriate content of the person themself. and it’s weird as shit.
"ohhh that makes sense, that makes sense" as response to learning what aroace means was heartwarming, i remember being at pride with my aromantic flag, someone asked what flag that was and i explained it, the look of pity on them will never really leave me. Just accepting and acknowlidging what it is without adding any comment (even a funny one like "daaamn that sucks", "couldnt be me" etc) was just... *nice*
As a Muslim who can't be in pride, I respect y'all. I know you don't really like being.. referenced that way, and I won't because I actually understand you're human.
You can tell common sense does not exist in her head, and or she does this on purpose for the sake of starting drama. Though I am betting on the former rather than the latter.
@@thisislame2207many artists are known for going against an establish3d intrenched faction that stifles creativity for unfounded and generally falsely pretensed moral authority that in practice is seldom enforced unless the art or artist in question is in opposition to the controlling group. The hays code comes to mind. This sort of thing really does point out the insanity of such a system.
@@casematecardinalI mean, the Patrickussy in this video was more relevant to the Hays code comparison than Kooleen, as it’s going against potential, actual TH-cam censorship. Kooleen was just being a bit of a tit, not fighting suppression. If you insult someone, especially someone like jaiden, it’s fair for people to get annoyed about it.
Also does Kooleen even realize that all of them are animators? The avatar they use most likely have a plain shirts and simple shapes because it's more complicated to animate patterned and complex designs. Especially if they started out as a beginner with little to no knowledge on animating!
Off topic, but that is what I like about surreal humor. Traditional jokes so often follow the format of 'bad thing happens to guy I don't like'/'guy I don't like is stupid', while surreal humor is based on mutual understanding and agreement ('we both agree this is funny, so it is, even if it makes no sense').
can't we just forget koleen even existed in the first place already, it's not like anything she draws is any memorable either so why does anyone even care
I like how this video is basically a lesson about overstepping the personal boundaries of a person and the great consequences of it, I used to watch her videos but it wasn't that long that I discovered that her content was becoming more problematic and obnoxious than being funny. This is off topic but I really like how calming and unique your voice is, you have my subscribe!!
Love your reaction to learning the definition of Aro-Ace. No questioning whether it's real or possible or calling it strange, just reading and accepting. You're awesome, thanks.
You know the funniest/most fucked up part? She created, edited and voiced over the entire video, and not once did she think twice about how it sounded. Maybe, she should've had a second opinion before posting.
@@ganimol9691 yeah, I don’t approve of what she did, but I still won’t hate on her. That’s just dumb. I don’t think the art Sexualized Jaiden, some art styles are just like that, but Kooleen comments definitely did. But that’s just what Kooleen does, the internet must accept that. Also, I’ve definitely heard ‘Mommy’ as a compliment before, it doesn’t have to be sexual.
Nigga... she was joking. Are you guys just ignoring her obvious over-the-top tone on purpose? Are you looking for reasons to dislike her? Are you trying to justify your hatred? Bet ya wouldn't care if she was black or hispanic saying this. God forbid someone not black or hispanic is edgy... good lord bro, can't make this stuff up.
I could understand where theyre coming from with "its the avatar not the person" but then she used Jaiden's irl self as a refrence, and that argument went out the window
I'm also AroAce, how you so casually just explained and accepted it was really heartwarming. Thank you for just being like "Eh, alright". I haven't watched Jaiden in a while, but even I knew about her past eating disorders and had caught up with her "being not straight" video. It bugs me how Kooleen tried to blend Jaiden's persona/avatar with an actual image of Jaiden herself (which she has taken years to be comfortable sharing her image on screen it was an entire journey she shared later with her fans), by pausing on Jaiden's stream and saying weirdly s3xu4l things about her then later implying she's only referencing the avatar. Calling attention to Jaiden just existing was weird imo. If she didn't know about Jaiden's past, it's an odd thing to say about anyone that she doesn't seem to repeat for Domics or Odd1sOut. If she knew about Jaiden's past, why would she say it... at all? Jaiden has made it clear she doesn't like attention called to her own image, which is why she uses a cartoon persona, so to pause on her image and repeatedly comment on "bringing out Jaiden's epic goth mommy" that isn't repeated for the others is very bizarre behavior. Fictional characters are fictional and are there for the imagination, so that's more of a grey area, but when you openly mock both the art style of a *cartoon representation* not being accurate to their real-world person and joke about someone continuously not being "s3xy" enough or needing to "bring out" the "goth mommy" they should be showing off? Are you s3xu4lizing Jaiden or just her avatar? Both? Cause it seems like both. Jaiden is not her avatar, but Kooleen's comments imply the s3xy representation is of both art and artist. If it was meant to be just the avatar, she should've left the tattoo off. On top of this; commenting the most on someone's appearance who has struggled very publicly with that topic, making comments about "fixing" how to represent herself and make her avatar cuter, but zooming through and just drawing James (Odd1sOut) as a cute boy and disregarding his avatar completely? ?Excuse me hwat?? (I know these are meant to be a one-off art pieces, but the condescending tone of "wow, this original art is awful, doesn't MINE look better??" over Jaiden's side-by-side is inescapable and so inappropriate? No, Kooleen? No, neither looks better, you're comparing a cute lil doodle cartoon meant for flexible emotive representation to a detailed one-off personal portrait that's meant to be eye-candy.) If maybe she only brought up the avatars as references and didn't bother with looking up what they look like I could ignore it, but I can't imagine what was going through Kooleen's mind when she brought up both using the actual youtubers as "reference" to "fix" the models representing them by yass-ifying them while insulting their art styles for not meeting her anime-Korean-webtoon-esque standards? (The style isn't the issue here, but implying you're fixing the style to make it better than the "basic bland millennial" cartoon is weird an obscure. Cartoony styles aren't something that needs to be fixed or really even commented on. Low detail things are fun, high detail things are fun. Both have their pros and cons and are valid regardless. But stop implying you "made it better" for drawing something in a pretty style.)
100% -- see im a huge advocate for being allowed to draw and write whatever you want but I do draw a line at RPF and using real people as avatars for your sexualization. I fully understand the use and benefits of sexualizing images and book characters as a coping mechanism or just for shits and giggles -- but when real people are involved you start treading a dangerous line... because imagine you found fanfiction or fanart drawn of not someone who LOOKS like you but someone who is MEANT TO BE YOU. then make that person do something you are inherently uncomfortable with... like if i saw fanart of me being religious and married to a man and pregnant i'd be very uncomfortable. What Kooleen did was absolutely not okay. I decided to unfollow her youtube channel because that's the only thing I can do atm. p.s. the grey area is when you use say real ppl models as references for your character -- take for example Sherlock Holmes BBC Benedict cumberbatch -- and you draw sexualized images of him and john but they bear resemblances to the actors... if you are adament that these are the CHARACTERS and you give some sort of sign that they are these characters or at least make the effort to move away from the actors -- I dont see an issue with it... it might make the actors uncomfy but ultimately you aren't sexualizing the actor themselves you are sexualizing an image and a persona that they put out there... that's why if Kooleen stuck to JUST THE AVATARS then I don't think there would be an issue. Using Real person reference has to be done with SO much tact and care as to not insult, degrade, or discriminate against your model. yeah im just ugh it's so awful... i knew Kooleen was edgy and i liked it a little... but ultimately she got to a point where her videos became just derogatory for no good reason... and her art really isn't at the level where she should be having all that cocky confidence. It is good don't get me wrong, but ... she still can't draw hands.
Here I am feeling lowkey guilty simply for finding certain content creators attractive, meanwhile people like this feel the need to be disrespectful and creepy about it. I've only ever heard "goth mommy" used on fictional characters until now and I can't imagine being so socially inept as to use it on a real person who I don't even know lmao
This exactly. Do you have any idea how creepy I felt even thinking about holding someone I knew in real lifes hand? How can someone do this and see nothing wrong??
@@arandom7595 ...you're not creepy for that. That is literally apart of human normality. That is physical socialization. That is an actual problem, like on a level.
@@arandom7595 Well, I'm glad. And if I may, from one stranger to another, don't be so quick to shame yourself. If you're not sure about something, that's fine. Making yourself out to be some kinda villain or something isn't right. Keep it up though, and best of luck!
TLDR: respect people boundaries and don’t be weird espically if they express that they don’t wanna be sexualize. Cause unfortunately around two years ago I think. Jaiden had gotten a lot of people draw NSFW art work of her. That’s why she’s not okay with people sexualizing her along with the fact that’s she’s ace Edit: these comments sections are making my head hurts
Listen, they're not making art of Jaiden, they're making art of her OC. This is what happens when you make your oc you, this is what happens to anyones oc
it's actually happening more after her coming out video, it's disgusting how these artists and people treat her just because she's a girl ☹ Edit: LMFAOO some of y’all doing tricks on kooleen in the replies 💀
@@sirgentlebread7302They quite literally are making art of her. That avatar shown in her videos is a representation of her, her avatar LOOKS like her. So it's still weird and massively disrespectful.
Its so weird for her to take someones personal representation of themself, insult it, then find a pic of the actual person and sexualize them. To anyone but also for someone who has been very public about being aroace and not wanting to be sexualized and her past body dysmorphia. There is a line and kooleen crossed it several times over, starting with choosing a real person to "yassify" (also just call it a glowup? The art she does is not faithful to the drag origins and is not really yassifying so she should call it something else idk)
For a second I thought this was just about the drawing she made, and I was kinda like "Idk, making a hot drawing some somebody's TH-cam avatar isn't that crazy". Then I saw the "goth mommy" thing, and I'm like "Yeah... that's really weird actually". Then I realized she actually said that about Jaiden's IRL appearance, and I think that's the thing that brought this from strange to like... really creepy, especially when Jaiden is very well known for not being comfortable with her appearance. She shouldn't have shown Jaiden's real life appearance in the video to begin with.
11:45 I’m not much of an artist myself. But if had someone take my art, and “yassify” it, I’d be pretty offended. Jaidens avatar is plain so it’s easy to animate in short periods of time, and is also meant to somewhat represent her. Not be an exact copy. Could you imagine animating kooleens version? I really don’t think anyone would want to animate that. Just a bunch of unnecessary comments on kooleens part..
I was thinking that too! She was basically coming for the CC’s art styles and it’s not cute. Just cuz it’s simple doesn’t mean it’s bad or less appealing than something that’s “yasified.” And again, she’s not getting the practical end of it.
kooleen drawings look so bland it's not even funny, they are every generic "hot character drawing" you see online. Jaiden and Odd1 drawings are immediately recognizable for their style. Is this the evolution of braindead "artists" on Twitter "fixing" people's art? I found this video in my recommended and I'm honestly kinda mad. I'm pretty sure AI-generated art would wipe this trash
thank you for beeing such a cool dude! :D seeing you learn about ACE/ARO stuff, and being just chill is very appreciated. every other youtuber i've seen a youtuber mention it briefly, have been weird about it.
@@pufflord_gamesonicsoloesyo2365 Well that’s a foolish idea. Mother Nature has been losing the second we started the Industrial Revolution. The hole in the ozone only cleared up once WE, humanity, stopped using aerosols. Mother Nature yields to any being with sufficient will. The fact that some species reproduce without sex, and some species like penguins form same sex couples implies that remnants of the behavior of I attraction is likely still in our DNA. While I do value the environment, Mother Nature, which is a fictional character by the way, has never really won a bout with humanity. Pestilence of the four horsemen maybe, but not her.
5:07 this is such a little thing for me to be happy about but I love the way you were just like-- "ohh huh. Yeah ok." and completely chill about aroace made me feel so happy because we are very used to being told we are "broken" or "wrong" Its the little things.
Im Christian and bicurious (I think Im bisexual idk), and one of my local pastors said smth like 'i think these people that say they dont feel attraction for anyone are actually just lying, because no human can actually live by themselves' and I thought that was really ass of him tbh
@@Furina_-_De_-_Cuntainei don’t understand why some people can’t comprehend how sexuality works. my mum used to ask me about it and it’s funny because it’s genuinely the same way that a girl would like a guy, the gender is just different LOL
@WatermelonWhatThe That pastor clearly needs to understand the situation on those who don't feel attracted to someone. Also, im really curious about Christians and wanted to know so i sincerely apologize is if I sounded rude but, I've read something in an article that had me thinking in which of its true that there are LGBTQ Christians because the topic sounded controversial (if im not wrong remembering it, it was like this): ¹ There are no such things as LGBTQ Christians. It's the same as a witch Christian, a serial killer Christian, or a satanist Christian. (I had to search these verses up since I had almost forgotten it) Genesis 1, 27 "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created He them." Male and female does not mean gender, it mean biological sex. ² Homosexuality is wrong, but it all comes down to sin, and son flows from a corrupt heart. That's why we need to accept Jesus and allow the Holy Spirit to do its work. But, even so, we can't straightforwardly tell the person it is wrong everytime we see them won't help them, their sin flows from past hurts etc. (The third part just goes on saying about how Christians should love them. And it sounded like LGBTQ aren't supposed to be part of them) ³We can co exist with others but we have the will to choose to not support what they do or say. If they can be who they truly are, then the point of laws and governing rules for the citizens are of no point useless. We have to love the LGBTQ community but don't support them nor curse at them that they're going to hell because then we're talking like we are a child of Satan. Instead, we have to help them and guide them out of their sinning lives to live in the way of Christ as a child of God. Though, it doesn't mean we aren't sinners to begin with, we ourselves, should repent too as God sees all sins are the same with no exceptions.
I've disliked kooleen ever since she made the video on pewdiepie. Something always seemed off about her attitude and I'm surprised people didn't notice sooner.
Making art like this of Jaiden's avatar was already scummy because she explicitly made it clear that she did not want any 18+ art made of her. But to use her REAL SELF as a reference is just- NO, that is revolting, and a violation of boundaries. Shame on Kooleen.
@@vinnie144 Innapropiate? Yes. NSFW/18+? Not really. I wouldnt really count "Mommy" as nsfw/18+. Don't get me wrong, Im not defending her, she was disrespectful, but calling it nsfw/18+ is a stretch ...
One of few art discourses that's actually understandable. Sexualizing ppl's self-inserts/persona is not at all okay imo considering it's suppose to be them. Yes, some ppl are ok with it but not everyone is. It's not "them" literally, but it's an abstraction that they've design to represent themselves. If Kooleen was gonna "yassify" Jaiden's self-insert, could she have had the common sense and decency to at least NOT reference her actual face? 🤦🏾♀️ Starting to think she does/says questionable shit cuz she knows she's gonna get clicks for it.
Exactly, it was really random and unnecessary for Kooleen to put up a picture of Jaiden irl and comment about her appearance. Instead of using her real life photo as reference, she should've been more creative and redraw Jaiden's avatar in her own style or use her VTuber design as another reference.
MHM self inserts and personas ect Should not be sexualized when a person's CLEARLY said not to. I'm an aroace also, and I was raped as a child leaving me permanently damaged both mentally and physically, so anytime anyone even says anything to me, I lash out at myself and usually end up on the floor bleeding, I've been seeing MANH therapists and psychologists, but there isn't a cure for what happened, the fact people can't fucking understand COMMON KNOWLEDGE and consent is disgusting
Kooleen’s comments during that video made me so uncomfortable… not only the sexualization, but the subtle bullying (the shirt, the “millennial side-part”…). Kooleen comes across as a “peaked in high school” type of women who would verbally degrade people and try to gaslight them into thinking it’s actually a compliment. She clearly only cares about her own gratification and nothing else.
pretty sure she is just rage bait. that's why i'm trying my best not to watch, comment or interact with her. (mainly through reaction videos). knowing her past behaviour I hope she doesn't find you and "yassifies" you. who knows what kind of features will be taken away from you. xD Edit: Could y'all plesse stoo interacting with the one saying "i have thick skin, it wouldn't bother me". You're rage baiting yourself at this point. Although they missed my point, it's clear what they're trying to achieve under a comment talking about rage bait.
Being a Filipino, this might not be ragebait, it might just be that Koleen is a drama queen. Yes, she's baiting people, but not to get reactions, instead for the drama and being the center of attention
Obviously, by their own personal standards. For all people, there is something they define as beautiful and something they don't. People are different, it's normal. I don't like a lot of people, for example, and others may not consider me attractive by their own standards. And that's okay in principle.
@@JustArandomPersonXD Well, from her quote, I think she meant that she only paints people who are attractive by her standards. Which is understandable, because you paint what you like. But I also understand what you're saying, like she called everyone else ugly. It's just not clear whether there was any malicious intent behind it, or whether she was just talking about her tastes, preferences.
People need to look up what "Avatar" means... It's a representation of a person, and in this case, Jaiden quite literally uses that avatar as herself online. It's kinda fucked up to judge what she prefers to see herself as on the internet
For the love of all that is holy, she was JOKING! I've never watched a Kooleen video a DAY in my LIFE and I CAN TELL. Why the ACTUAL HELL is it so hard for "PEOPLE" to see that?
@@pufflord_gamesonicsoloesyo2365 Freedom of speech honey, you say something fucked up - you get consequences. People like you wanna hide behind "it's just a joke" shield all their life but nobody around is dumb. Nobody gives a f about lame excuses. Grow up.
@@pufflord_gamesonicsoloesyo2365 hey, just letting you know, calling something a joke doesnt make it okay 💕 if someone says its funny to be racist or misogynistic or to hurt people that doesnt somehow make it funny, same way saying its funny to blatantly insult and disrespect someones boundaries doesnt somehow make it funny 💕💕💕 so maybe you should try doing the seeing
@@ariannebrodeur You're being hateful. It's genuinely appalling. And I'm very confident in what I'm saying, don't get the wrong idea. This reaction is as baseless and senseless as it gets.
As a fellow aroace, if someone took my art account avatars/sonas and "yassified" them while making a bunch of sexual comments about them I WOULD BLOCK THEM IN EVERY PLATFORM POSSIBLE. Even tho mime dont look as much as me as Jayden's. Also given koolen used IRL Jayden as a reference, thats disgusting. I'd cry. At the point that someone made it clear they don't like sexual comments or being sexualized and someone still does it, THAT'S SEXUAL HARASSMENT.
Why oa, block me later... Imagine. Instead of a stranger trying to friends you will identify them as your enemy because you don't like how they approach you. I mean you will not die in changes to a bunch pixels without a big reason. You have every reason to protect yourself from danger and bad things. But spamming hate because of mindset is just straight toxic. She didn't even make nswf like what people do politicians or what call like vandalizing or boyism act like rule 34. It is just a fan art. 😢 I really don't know why guys are acting aggressive just for supporting someone. I wish someday guys you learned how cyber bullying works. And not pretend to not guilty to your action.
@@jeusmarcomascarina4102 Making SEXUAL COMMENTS like calling her a GOTH MOMMY TOWARDS someone that has already said they DON'T want any of that is SEXUAL HARASSMENT. If the way someone, A STRANGER, approaches me is by making weird SEXUAL comments about me I rather have NOTHING to do with them. THEY ARE BEING CREEPS. I AM NOT OBLIGATED TO BEFRIEND ANYONE I DON'T WANT, MUCH LESS A CREEP.
@@marnadnay she wasnt right for calling someone she doesnt know goth mommy, but holy, you guys apparently wanna kill her for this mistake lmao just say it wasnt right and move on, i would understand if she was actively commenting like omg i would fuck her !! but no, its literally just a meme. and no, she isnt right, but what you guys are doing isnt either.
@@jeusmarcomascarina4102 Unwanted sexual comments towards someone is legit sexual harassment. Jaiden is a REAL PERSON who has openly stated she does NOT want these comments made about or towards her. Would you go up to a stranger and call them a "goth mommy" or other sexual things IRL? If not, then why make that same advance online? The comments are still directed at a real person, and what you say online still has consequence whether we like it or not. Sexual harassment is a real thing, especially online spaces.
MOOD 8:25 Bless Jaiden tho, she’s so lovely Was so confused abt Kooleen but this has helped, ty! I do love the art but doing art of her, and what she said etc is so wrong.
As someone who is aroace myself, I'm so tired of other people disregarding our identity, as though it's lesser than other identites. I already have to deal with people shipping aroace characters in media, but ignoring a real person being aroace really hits a nerve I've never seen a video of or from jaden animations, literally the only thing i know about her is that she's aroace, so clearly it's not something that's hard to find out
Us aroace’s know no peace, I hate how EVERYTHING has to be sexualized in this society, including us. And don’t you dare complain about it or people with say you are perpetuating purity culture 😭
@@Nigh_Temptation I'm not Aro/Ace, but I also hate that if you criticize that X thing should not be sexualized (because is weird af), now you are a "monk" or a "nun".
To me I feel neutral if it fictional since it not real life and people could possibly change their sexuality into something else to make them have a relationship the same way every character with a fandom endure But real life? Real ass people? Yeah fuck nah that a problem alright
@@Nigh_Temptation There's a ton of things in society that aren't sexualized though. And this is what happens when you give people freedoms that honestly... they shouldn't have. Bodily autonomy is fine to an extent, but the fact that people are out here allowed to have 15 kids with 15 different men/women is absolutely absurd. I think being grossed out by a part of animal nature is pretty asinine buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut. In this context, you're taking a joke way too far. When straight men and or straight women make these kinda jokes towards one another... how are you supposed to take it seriously? It's just edgy humor, no need to get so bent out of shape.
@@pufflord_gamesonicsoloesyo2365 … man the fuck are you even saying? You call me absurd for a part of my sexuality I cannot control: “I think being grossed out by a part of animal nature is pretty asinine”, you tell me I’m taking a joke too far (what joke? Where tf is the joke?), you talk about people having a bunch of kids (where does that tie into what we are talking about?), and then you pull the “it’s just edgy humor” card on me. What are you trying to tell me 😭
*_love her or hate her...what do you think about kooleen?_*
*_she's mommy_*
Mixed feelings about her. As a black person, I hate that she insulted black people's facial structures and called it "gorilla-looking"
“She’s a goth mommy” for me🥰
I am also mixed cuz I love her art but she’s a bit annoying ;-;
Goth MOMMY???@@MohammedAgbadi
additional context on Jaiden: some time ago she had to make a statement she doesn’t want anyone drawing 18+ art of her/her avatar and weird ppl got mad and created even more to spite her. It’s beyond just her being aroace, it’s her boundaries no matter her identity and her history of being made into 18+ art in the past, she was being harassed.
i understand being aroace adds another layer of bad but it’s not the sole reason and it’d still be just as awful if she wasn’t ace. no one deserves such treatment.
I still dont get it, what,part of thw koleen drawing was 18+?
@@Tubatu4419 her drawing wasn't 18+. however she made sexual comments towards jaiden in the video. 18+ fanarts is a separate issue, im just adding context as to why ppl are upset.
This is very important, because the people who are saying that Jaiden said she doesn't want those kind of comments to be made about her and then implying that it's solely because she's aroace are surely coming from a good place, but it's not good to act like all aroace people think and feel the same about this topic. Of course the fact that Jaiden is aroace probably adds to the reasons why she's unconfortable with this, but it's not like all aroace people would also be.
I feel like this isn't even an aroace thing, it's just something that you shouldn't do of someone's representation of themselves.
@@threeseals she barely made any, and when they bordered to being sexual, they were very obviously sarcastic
"you cant yassify a naked bald guy" LITERALLY mr. clean erasure
WHY DID SHE JUST MAKE WHITE REIGEN ARATAKA
HELP ME
Lol God bless
@@Howaboutyes11 and also with you I think
Magic erasure 😔
The sad thing is, Jaiden said she doesn't want people sexualizing her, yet I somehow randomly always stumble upon NSFW ai chatbots of her, even one that glorified r@p3.
Yeah, it sucks. Does CharacterAI have a report button? If so, don't forget to use it whenever needed.
@@book-obsessedweirdo8677 I'm pretty sure it does
I didn’t know that this existed, heh I hope I don’t find such a thing with me someday if I cross someone’s path
Yep always report it. It's gross and very unsurprising weirdos did that sadly. Creepy.
OH MY GOD I SAW ONE OF HER BUT FAT THATS HORRIBLE😭😭😭😭
"I can't yassify a naked bald guy" mate has never seen Saitama
And as an artist if you can’t yassify a simple bald person then oh man-
Man when he goes serious,Saitama does looks like he is slaying. He looked like manifested his hair,when it does not due to the details man
Ok.
-Saitama
saitama is literally one of the most handsome bald guys in existence. kooleen just has skill issue lmao
Growing up I had a crazy crush on Ikkaku from bleach
Koleens big problem is that she is way too obsessed with unrealistic beauty to the point she belittles everything that doesn't fit this idea.
FR
And she herself aint that pretty lol
So what? It's just art . Y'all are so dramatic
@@shuichisaiharasimp jealousy
@@lolmfs yeah it's art but the messages that's coming from and is behind that art isn't good
“I could not yassify a naked bald guy” sounds like a skill issue
what 😨😨
Well I mean she's being honest at least. Just way too honest- but hey, pretty sure it's much more scarier if they're the silent/mixed manipulatice type of person
anyone can be hot if you try hard enough
They been doing it to Walter White for years.
(OKAY WHY DID I JUST NOW NOTICED THE WORD "NAKED")
Clearly has never seen saitama from opm
THE PATRICK PICTURE MADE ME GENUINELY SCREAM WTFFFF 😨😭
the patrickussy
I'm gonna need water and a prayer after that
@@MohammedAgbadiOh nahhh... wheres the spongeussy?
@@MohammedAgbadihelp can you even show this on youtube 😭😭😭
saved it to my homework folder 🥰🥰
Even if Jaiden wasn’t aro/ace, Kooleen calling her a "goth mommy" is really gross. Jaiden has made it clear that she doesn't feel comfortable when people draw nsfw art of her or her avatar or when they make inappropriate comments towards her, Kooleen is basically disrespecting Jaiden's boundaries because she wants to make her "hot"
I've always found Kooleen's obsession of unrealistic beauty in her drawings to be really weird. It's shown when she refuses to "yassify" James avatar because she "can't yassify a naked baled guy" so instead uses a REAL LIFE picture of James (btw the final drawing of him was really bad). Her art just feels so soulless and uncreative because of that, and I really hate putting people's art down, but I genuinely think that Kooleen needs a ego check
Uhh kooleen didn’t make Jaiden as an nsfw drawing? But I agree with what you said
@@TrueNeneYashirowhile not nsfw explicitly, it was slightly suggestive, but the jaiden thing was mostly about kooleen calling her a ‘goth mommy’ which jaiden has very openly said multiple times she doesn’t want any sexual comments of that nature at all
@@TrueNeneYashiroi think it has to do with the weird Goth Mommy comments, that many people felt uncomfy, plus many peeps trying to remind Koleen of Jaiden’s boundary. Plus, with the hindsight that Jaiden had severe body dysmorphia and had suffered ED (which are videos that Jaiden publicly discussed years ago), they really dont like the yassification process (cuz making Jaiden looking like the ideal beauty). It would’ve been better if she sticked with their avatar instead of the irl looks of the cc, so that she wouldnt be in the mess, and would have a good excuse of using their avatars instead of their irl looks.
@@cel4709 oh okay I get it now
@@TrueNeneYashiro while she didn't draw nsfw art of Jaiden, she made a lot of inappropriate comments towards her, such as calling her a "goth mommy" but also said something on the lines of "I'll give her all the lip fillers she needs" keep in mind she's saying this while using a real life photo of Jaiden as a reference
"I can't yassify a naked bald guy" Yes you can! Just don't add hair and give it a sexy jawline
Saitama from One Punch Man.
Dude just draw the chad pic but bald and no beard lmao.
It’s just perfect already
@@Bloomkyaaa Saitama with serious face is sexy af as long he don't do his (: expression
@@Bloomkyaaa That was the series that opened my eyes to the sexiness of a bald man.
I mean they made a sexy Squidward in Spoungebob. Anything is possible
she's just like those 13yo girls in popular fandoms which took a bald character (like Sans) and put hair over them because they think bald people are ugly
BAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHA
To be fair, sans' canon design is *a skeleton*. Skeletons don't have hair, yes, but it doesn't mean his human version necessary has to be bald? If an artist draws their human version with hair what's the problem? It doesn't in fact contradict anything.
I'm just confused, not trying to be mean
@@eestifan4ever it's more or so the underlying tone that people put hair on bald characters because they think they're ugly
@vivierinda4399nah it just looks better sorry if i sound toxic but it does depwnds on how u draw tgem lkke j saw how an artist drew baldie and O LALA😭
@@Kristaaaaau can you really say you love that character tho if the very essence of them (for this example, being bald) was taken out and replaced by something that makes them have almost zero resemblance to the canon design, making, yet again, just another generically good looking, factory produced, anime guy.
exactly. you only like the idea of the character and cannot accept wholly who they are, bald spots and all 😤 //jk kinda
I genuinely respect Mohammed so much for going, “oh I didn’t know this thing existed, cool now I’m better informed!” I feel like the Internet has really poisoned my expectations on people learning new things.
Same, mad respect. I was braced for, well, what you would expect of the internet and it was like a breath of relief!
Same until I saw that fucking Patrickussy photo 😭
I'm so used to us ace aro people getting shamed for being open about it and actively told what we are doesn't exist that I tensed up when it was brought up but I was relieved to see I was worrying over nothing this time 😅
@@arsena5209 Terrible mindset. Don't let others control what is or isn't yours. As a mixed person, never feeling I fit in on other side, it only made me less happy. Owning everything you are in it's entirety is crucial to being happy. Even if people denounce a part of you, understand they could just be ignorant. But regardless, you are who you are, you know that, and that's what matters. That realization made me infinitely more comfortable with both sides of my family. It goes a long way. Cheers
@@arsena5209I get what you mean honestly. I know it’s easier said than done, but try to ignore the ignorant hateful comments yk?
Not to be an ass, but I absolutely hate the emphasis on Jaiden being aroace as an argument against her being sexualized and not being called mommy and stuff like that. As if it is okay to do to anyone regardless of sexuality? It wouldn't be okay even if she wasn't aroace. Can we just not sexualize people without their consent in the first place? Can we just be normal about people online?
E X A C T L Y
yeah real
point should be because shes unfomfortable with it as most of us would be 😭
im late,but we are just emphasing on how it makes it MORE bad,not saying it'd be ok if she was'nt aroace,chill a bit
@@SaintOrion-333 that's not making it better. It's not worse to sexualize someone when they don't want that when they're aroace versus when they are.
It's not more okay to sexualize/sexually harass someone when they're not aroace.
@@SaintOrion-333 but by saying it makes it worse does indirectly insinuate that it's more socially acceptable to sexualize someone with sexual attraction to others. Saying she's asexual makes it worse is similar to saying a straight man sexualizing a lesbian is worse than a straight woman, WHEN BOTH ARE EQUALLY BAD. It's worse because Jaiden has been vocal about her being uncomfortable with being sexualized, when some content creators have been vocal about being okay with that content (think TH-camrs reading their own fanfics), but her sexuality doesn't change her rank in the severity of being a victim of sexualization and harassment. By saying one type of harassment is worse minimizes other forms indirectly and does more harm
Basic shirts are great as an art accessory!
1) jewelry won't get lost in a busy background.
2) tattoos won't blend into patterns/textures
3) it will give the eyes an area to relax.
4) layers
I can go on to defend basic shirts for an actual wardrobe and in Art.
This makes me feel better about having characters with plain shirts!
Also the avatar matches the vibe of her channel, the outfit is basic because it's very relaxed and she want her content to be more, slice of life/relaxed. While she has a past with mental health, it makes her more relatable and the vast majority of her content is either stories, gaming, or things she did like collect a literal room full of plushies
@@darianbarber3763speaking of relatable I am wearing a tie dye t shirt right meow
jaiden has an animation channel, so basic shirts are easier to animate as well !
fr, what does she have against them? she just can’t understand basic things now? 😭
what the hell was that patrick photo... apology video with tears RIGHT now.
YES please 🗣️😅
"Toxic gossip train"
MY EYES ARE ON FIRE RIGHT NOW- WHAT THE HECK?????
or a ukelele
@@NickName-be3li he finna get demonetized
"I could not yassify a naked bald guy."
Why? Because you lack imagination? If she did just yassify his regular avatar, that would have actually been kinda funny.
She basically just turned him into anime SpongeBob smh
I literally got 5 different ideas of how it could look like in one second 💀 it's not that hard 😭
Even 12 year old undertale fans were able to yassify a bald skeleton c’mon kooleen 😭
Hot bald guy invokes the image of tenzin from the legend of korra.
@@JaneD0e_LuckyNxmbr7 exactlyy
0:01 i didn't know she was Filipino 😭😭
Nah same😔
I thought she was Chinese or Korean 😭😭
Bro, same
Why we gotta be represented like this 😭
ꇙꋬꂵꏂ
I thought she was an 𝘼𝙢𝙚𝙧𝙞𝙘𝙖𝙣 with 𝙢𝙤𝙣𝙤𝙡𝙞𝙙𝙨. 😭
MOHAMMED WTF WAS THAT PATRICK PHOTO??! YOURE GROUNDED YOUNG MAN🤬🤬
😭😭😭😭 lock the door
cryingg
I agree with you, they will do everything for being a trend.
@@MohammedAgbadi uninvited to the cookout for that one man 😭😭😭
@@meriembelguebli7440the patrussy?? A trend?? 💀
Remember, the only real people you should be openly sexualizing are significant others who consent to it. Having a crush on someone is fine, but don’t go around talking about them sexually unless they’re okay with it.
Right?! People don't need to openly say they don't want to be sexualized to not get sexualized. Koolen didn't make an "inoccent error" by not researching about Jaiden's story on self image, she sexualized a person and that's her mistake, period.
Yeah, exactly. What Kooleen did was catcalling. It doesn’t even matter if Kooleen knew what Jaiden went through because Kooleen shouldn’t have been sexualizing Jaiden in the first place. Jaiden is a complete stranger and Kooleen never asked if it was okay to talk like that about her.
Hell the "significant other" part isn't necessary, just the consent part.
Like damn people is it so hard to respect consent.
I'm gonna sexualize a Big Mac and you can't stop me. And neither can the Big Mac.
@@vivil2533 Time and place where we give our consent is honestly so important IMO. Like when I go on Grindr for example, it's common to be sexualized. It's one of the points of the app though and I don't actively discourage it, so I'm much more forgiving if people are like that (to a point of course). But if I'm just going about my day and somebody starts really going in on the compliments, I'm likely to feel uncomfortable. Especially because I'm not straight, and I've run into really awkward situations before publicly whether it be some random stranger flirting with me or suggesting I get a girlfriend. Both can be frustrating to deal with when I'm likely just minding my own business or started with small talk if we were already talking. Even if they align with my preference, sometimes I'm just not looking for something at that moment. People get so concerned about finding someone in life that they don't realize the easiest way to do it is to go to places where people are actually looking for that kind of attention. Not in your workplace or other public spaces.
wasn't ready for patrick 💀
not the patrickussy
@@MohammedAgbadiI did not consent too seeing that, I will be suing you very soon 😡 get your lawyers bud
LOL @@DaniDumZ
@@MohammedAgbadi💀 bro I’m dead
Same
Dude, i cant describe hie grateful i am for the subtitles. I'm not s native English speaker and you puting them really helps me to learn snd understand. Love your content too ❤
YOU GENUINELY DID NOT NEED TO PUT THAT PATRICK PHOTO UP
Sheeeeesh 🫦
That's was the most cursed shit ever.
Was hell
LMAOO
TIMESTAMP NOW
As a NSFW creator, the Patricussy doesn't scare me (I still don't want to see that ever again.)
Kooleen is very weak that she can't yassify a "naked bald guy". Pah!
Her comments were inappropriate, especially if people expressed discomfort about this in the past. And if you don't know a person's boundaries, then just don't talk like that, it is literally that simple.
i do draw nsfw but i was NOT ready 💀
Another case of insensitive Filipino artists again.. haaah I'm tired of my countrymen being sometimes like this, it's basically part of our culture to gossip about people and not care about how they feel, so it probably extended to Koleen's view of people as a whole, especially with what she did with Jaiden. Tsk. 😕
Boundaries? On the internet? Thats not how it works. You of all people should know that. And the hypocrisy of such a statement to boot. The moral police are p*** addicted weirdos who must view everything through a lense of debauchery. Your high horse sank into the earth long ago.
I understand what you mean but based on your comment about the personal boundaries how much does she needs to research about someone to have the right to do a FanArt OR use them as a reference?
Search on Googles Jaden boundaries or search Jaden Traumas or maybe just watch every single video Jaden posted to have the right to draw her?
I'm not making fun of you nor been disrespectful , I'm really curious, how much do you consider an artist HAVE to know about someone to have to freedom to draw them or use them as a reference
She simply may not know Jaden's Traumans, know days we follow a lot of people in social media, is kind of unrealistic to expect everyone to know every trauma about everyone, just because you know the trauma of someone that doesn't mean every one knows,
Traumas, pets, past relationships, crimimal history there's a lot about every individual you would have to take into consideration
I understand wanting to protect Jaden and I too think the comments were of bad taste BUT shouldn't we give people the right to express the self how they want or the right for and artist to present their work how they want?
Saying that she simply shouldn't draw if she doesn't fullfil you personal check list of what to do or not do is kind of arrogant
The best we can do is simply not support the content we don't like but taking away the right to do a draw something you wanted is going to far
Thia is not an attack, I trying to present mu Ideas respectfully if you disagree I hope we mage to keep the conversation respectful
Only thing she did wrong was the comments
As an ace person myself that's very insecure about my body, if anyone just paused on a frame of me and made weird remarks about my body and then drew "me" that's just more conventionally attracted... I would feel sick in the stomach. Not to mention it's kinda contradictory. Not only they crossed a boundary of mine, made the situation weird for views and likes. But also "complimented" me just to "fix" me. So they would make me uncomfortable for no f reason before drawing my prettier doppelganger. W t f.
Yeah, it’s weird to do that to anyone, but especially someone who has been fairly open about suffering from body dysmorphia and has also publicly said “hey, I’m not really into sex” (yes being aroace is WAY more complicated, I’m just simplifying).
Also, being a fellow ace person, I would be too. Actually, I’d probably just break down crying tbh.
Same, this is honestly really disturbing. I used to like Kooleen but this is very disappointing.
literally same
and people always defend her like koolen can’t successfully draw anyone who isn’t conventionally attractive / anime boy / anime girl v shaped chin tiny nose and “jUicY lips” she has a LOT of more learning to do 😭
It's so awful. As an ace as well and one who have had multiple eating disorders, her bashing Jaiden the entire time while going past so many boundaries was just jaw-dropping. She couldn't even try drawing Odd1sOut, but she had to "yassify" a person who has literally stated she doesn't like that sort of thing.
15:16 ZAWG LOL NOT THE "you made odds1sOut look like spongebob"
The thing is, if Kooleen was yassifying the avatar, why did she add the irl Jayden's tattoos specifically? Could've been like "oh and she has tattoos irl, could take some inspiration and add tattoos" but she specifically drew the tattoos Jayden has irl
When did she said she was yassifiyng the avatar?
@@SussyDussyCat it's an argument that could be used to defend her. If she wasn't yassifying the avatar, then she did an absolutely awful thing, "redesigming" real people
@@niki2037 she said she was yassifying storytime youtubers, not avatars. My attempt was to correct you.
@@SussyDussyCat and I said "IF she was yassifyng the avatar" IF
@@niki2037 then you don't have to write that whole sentence.
The fact that he looked up what AroAce is says a lot, not even mentioning how he immediately accepted it. We need more people like this.
Girl what
@@sabsain2399 I’m LesbianAce myself (I’m lesbian but I still don’t feel any sexual attraction to anyone, only romantic/platonic feelings) and from my personal experience I’ve seen a lot of “supporting” people immediately look down on people if they aren’t the “classic” Gay/Lesbian/Trans and sometimes even if they are actually supportive they don’t look it up if they don’t really know what it is which could spread misinformation.
I’m just saying that I’m glad that he actually looked it up because he didn’t know it because of what I’ve seen in my own experiences :]
What's the difference between sexual and romantic attraction I genuinely do not understand 😌
@@Hahshdhbcbcyoutube Sexual attraction is when someone feels sexual interest in someone else. Romantic attraction is more things like cuddling and holding hands rather than actually wanting sexual intimacy with someone. Keep in mind that everyone has different preferences and boundaries so different people who are asexual may have different levels and preferences when it comes to those feelings. For example, I personally don’t really feel any se Hal desire to anyone at all but someone else may be a bit mire open (meaning that they may not directly seek it out but it still is something they’d be interested in)
@@Reed_Vine same
If she was “just talking about the avatar” and only doing a yassification based on it then why did she pull up an actual picture of her for reference. It makes it hard to tell when she’s criticizing her or the avatar
Think it was a ref for the tattoos as well
Retard take
right at the end she literally compared the avatar and her drawing dumass 😭
taking a reference from the irl while avatar has barely any good references and is just so simple is hard to "yassify" I guess?
look over the whole situation first until hating on someone, peace
@@gigaballer jaiden said not to make weird comments about her idk why were defending koleen hope this helps
@@0r1g1n4l-Charmer what do weird comments look like for yall
2:38 💀💀💀💀 WHAT 😭
What’s wrong with the patrikoochie?
...I wished that I stayed where I was in the video when coming back to watch the rest.
"I can't yassify a naked bald man" like agent 47 rule 34 doesn't exist
interesting example you put there
yeahhh.. i searched that up. (Don't search it up, actually.)
@@MyotoHito why did you search it up 🤣
how do u know that
Link
Why does James straight up look like SpongeBob SquarePants when kooleen draws him?
The yellow background ties it all togather, all it needs now is some jelly fish
@@davidlz830omg yeah! I didn’t even notice that tbh
She said that in her video as well 🤣
James is a furry, so that's even less realistic.
@@doodlesyoru2108Spongebob is a sea sponge, which is an animal.
Again?!
Koolleen try not to piss off the art community: Impossible
Or the art community is so sensitive they waste their time with useless drama on TH-cam rather than improve their skills
To the 1st reply: they are right to be mad. Calling someone goth mommy is very bad. Especially is they verbally said they don't want to be called that.
@@livetochange974 1. Kooleen said racist things. Yes she apologized but it was very half-assed
2. Jaiden didn’t want to be called Goth Mommy. She is clearly uncomfortable with being called that.
Calling people sensitive over subjects that they have the right to be pissed off about is insensitive.
@@livetochange974or maybe its weird to call someone goth mommy ?
@@livetochange974 The anger is sensitivity is valid tho?? Jaiden is a real human person…
The people in this comment section that are defending Kooleen make me genuinely uncomfortable. Like, if you're not uncomfortable in your body, or see bad things about yourself or someone commenting on yourself or your looks, then good for you. But Jaiden does feel uncomfortable. Especially when being sexualized. I personally also feel uncomfortable in my body, and I'd be incredibly uncomfortable if someone took a picture of me and "fixed" or sexualized how i looked with their words or a drawing.
People cannot say that people are getting defensive because it was only Jayden's avatar when Kooleen pulled things from Jayden's actual picture, like her tattoos. She's blending the two. It's not JUST the avatar.
When I first saw this video I was thinking "people are being a bit sensitive and overprotective of some parasocial connection with Jay, its just a redesign of the avatar"
Then she took stuff from her actual appearance.... and okay, I kinda get it now. If you wanted to do that there was a way to do it without being disrespectful.
Who cares, people are getting upset over pointless things
@@mathieul4303very true
Ok but like, it was still the avatar. I'm gonna be honest, if I was to be redrawing an avatar of someone, I would use their irl self too to be able to add more while also keeping it to being them.
I think that's where everyone were too sensitive. I think she overstepped the line when she called her goth mommy but that's it.
@Lexo_The_Moravian I do think Jay is in general way too sensitive for her own size online. And probably draws in fellow sensitive types or toxic positive people.
But making someone's avatar have real features from them kinda misses the point in my books. I think it's kinda lazy. You should be able to work in details from their content maybe to be like "Oh okay so I'm going to add this because I think it fits this" is more interesting than "here's the real people dressed as their avatar"
People who animate tend to use simple designs for an animation because of not wanting to draw straight details on each frame, that most of the time it’s 12-20 frames per second.
Thank you for saying this!!
I don't think most people realize how important "basic" designs are in animation
And I really like the simple designs
Regardless of if simple designs are necessary or not, they are still simple. It’s not offensive to point that out, it simply is what it is. Idk why that out of all things is being used as ammo against Koolean. You can tell there wasn’t any malice whenever she brought it up
Being simple is not the problem, but being boring is.
@@_qwerty_3545 no one is mad she said the shirt is boring, theyre mad that she was being weird to jaiden
"Goth mommy"? She is NOT the fictional character lady dimetrescu
I guess we're supposed to ask permission before even calling anyone hot nowadays? I mean, ffs, the whole 'mommy' thing is a meme. Everyone should chill.
@@ANPC-pi9vu Kooleen is the one being a weirdo and a bad person and you're telling other people to chill? You're the one getting upset over people calling someone out for their terrible behaviour.
@@ANPC-pi9vuI mean, Jaden isn’t a fictional character. So it would be considered catcalling. Meme or not.
@@ANPC-pi9vuThe main problem is that this is a boundary that Jaiden has placed SEVERAL times. She is uncomfortable with people talking about her in that way and with her avatar being sexualized. It’s basic decency.
@@ANPC-pi9vu I think calling someone "mommy" with sexual intent, especially when that person has expressed explicitly that they dislike being sexualized, is not the same as calling them hot. Had koolean just expressed that she thinks Jaiden is pretty, that would be totally fine! But "mommy" in this context is a porn term. A porn term koolean used to refer to an asexual creator who has a history of being sexualized on r34.
@ 5:15 as an ace person who’s stuck w you on autoplay and digging it :’) yassssssss, i smile-laughed :) i broke my preconception, you learned; and for whatever reason for me, that was the most lovely moment and i began laughing wildly lol. Thank you for being you, wishing you well :) also honestly i appreciate when we learn as we go and grow, thank you for platforming such lovey behaviour.
THE PATRIKOOCHIE 😭
😭😭😭 not the patrickussy
@@MohammedAgbadi why is yours even worse 😂😂
@@MohammedAgbadi BWUAHAHA-
😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Patrikoochie 😰🙏
I saw people commenting about the Patrick photo and I thought it was about the first meme picture BUT THEN I SAW THE SECOND ONE AND MY WORLD WAS SHAKEN. UTTERLY DESTROYED. I WILL NEVER RECOVER FINANCIALLY FROM THE KNOWLEDGE IT EXISTS
Pftt😂
Like why did he feel the need to even show that to us 😭
Can someone timestamp what in the world is everyone talking about?
@@mikejasonhuntar17512:37. view at your own discretion lmao
i was "NOT" expecting the patrick photo T-T
A censor bar would have been greatly appreciated DX
I’m surprised Jaiden hasn’t seen this! Because I know she’d feel thankful for you defending her! 😊
i think even if she wasnt aroace its disgusting and bad to say things like this to literally stranger
i also hate when people say mommy\daddy when want to say someone is attractive
FOR REAL i automatically dislike ppl who use daddy/mommy as a flirting or pining thing
I don't judge the mommy/daddy thing. It's also pretty common in fetish/BDSM communities, but I absolutely agree that comments like that are not really cool unless you know a person is cool with them already. Some people are, some people aren't. I wish we lived in a world where you could just ask what someone is fine with and what they are not and there is no judgement in either direction.
@@vixxcelacea2778Spot on. Saying mommy/daddy and thinking it's hot isn't inherently bad. What IS bad is saying it to someone when you know they hate it.
I agree I mean I’m okay with terms mommy/daddy but if it with your partner or fictional character you like but a real person you don’t know(I mean really know not someone you heard of/know of) not knowing if there okay with it and let’s be real it’s be so weird and uncomfortable when someone called you mommy/daddy especially a stranger.. I know I would
This drama already over (i think) because i saw the video and it's almost a year itself.
This drama just repeating and repeating by years, idk why people hasn't finished this drama.
I'm not offending y'all's opinions and am not at side of kooleen.
Because am not with everyone.
We already know shes gonna ignored it completely but... as a watcher of kooleen, she can be informative, funny, but others still hating on her on old dramas like wtf
HOW DID THAT PATRICK PICTURE GO THROUGH TH-camS MODERATION..
This video is gonna be demonetized p soon
@@dootdoot5617was it uncensored before?
Wait what time stamp is it?
@@Rosa-kd2cl 2:39 😨
i was so confused as to why everyone was talking about patrick.. i saw the first one and thought “oh this isn’t so bad”
then the second one.. by the gods… what have you brought to our eyes. just because you’ve seen it doesn’t mean we have to as well 😭
RIGHT
My situation exactly. I was wondering why people were freaking out about the first one then boom 😭
Omg, same. Like legit I thought the first image looked trashy sure, but not the end of the world, so I thought people were over exaggerating, but then the second Patrick image was shown, and I legit got jumpscared.
I am amused, but I hope the video don't get flagged.
@@KikoElGatito I hope it does cause there are minors watching
We do not need that like why did Muhammed show it
12:50 we slap our face all in unison and say poor James and Jaiden
I like this guy. He’s so open to learning new things, doesn’t criticize things he isn’t familiar with and doesn’t make unnecessary jokes. It’s crazy how rare this trait is among humans. Awesome video and a sub :)
The "she's just yassifying the AVATAR, not the artist" argument really falls apart when you watch her literally using real life reference photos of the creators so she can make the avatars look more like them 🙄 She literally ends up yassifying the creators instead of the avatars, because she's so unimaginative she can't work from just the cartoon-design.
I'm sorry, but your argument makes no sense whatsoever 😂😂
Ikr, she is SOOO unimaginative, why can't she make a yassified version of a cartoon character??? It's not like the character she is using as reference has absolutely no distinct features other than the hair.
Jaidens avatar literally has a circle head, dot eyes, a line for a mouth, and a bland t-shirt. What did you expect kooleen to do???
@@darkentity906 Huh
@@godabandonedmesoibecameaba8984 wdym "huh"
@@darkentity906 huh means huh
@@darkentity906 with enough imagination you can literally just go off of that alone
Basic shirts are for people that are able to shine with their personality, not their outfit
no wonder Kooleen hates them.
And the sleeveless turtleneck looks worse imo
@@digitalisssfr the “basic shirt” looks good on Jaiden’s avatar, also Jaiden’s avatar is so simple and cute I like it
The basic shirt does look nice as well. It's also it's much easier to animate too.
Cringe 😭
The point of the video is to make the avatars into conventionally attractive characters in her style. Like models or something.
Of course she's gonna swap out the basic shirt. This isn't even the part of the video with a problem 🙄.
The problem with the video was her pulling up that screenshot and making those stupid comments. That's what's tainting the rest of the video in your eyes. That and the mass outrage. Crowd mentality at its finest.
Also, basic shirts are AWESOME. Fuck whoever tells you that thrift store plain shirts suck, they can be stylish as all hell
Not everything has to be yessafied or sexy, especially if they are real people.
Love the video! Thanks for talking about this!
W
i think what got me especially was how she yassified james - instead of yassifying his insert character into some, like, hot mr clean dude she felt the need to yassify his irl appearance. i suppose u could argue that his insert character would make it more challenging (given her artstyle) but i dont think it wouldve been *that* much harder to just draw one of her kpop idols bald or smn - directly yassifying people's real appearances just feels so incredibly-disrespectful to me. i doubt it was done w any ill-intent and (in all honesty) i dont think he'd personally care too much, but i could imagine feeling kind of hurt and uncomfortable having that done to my image; w how she presented it, it didnt feel like her drawing him in her art style but (instead) her improving his appearance.
idk though, i could be vastly-overthinking it
this.^^^
yassifying real people (OR their sonas- esp if that sona is basically just them) is so wrong. if you REALLY want to do it, check if they’re fine with that kinda stuff first- and if you can’t find anything, try to reach out to them and ask them.
if they aren’t fine with it, or you don’t get an answer, just.. don’t do it. that’s a real person, not a fictional character. some use their characters to represent themselves- like vtubers- and see that character as an extension of them, whether it looks like them or not (one example I can think of being cyyu) so making inappropriate content of e characters I equivalent to making inappropriate content of the person themself. and it’s weird as shit.
agree
@@kazuu_44shut up pissy kid
"ohhh that makes sense, that makes sense" as response to learning what aroace means was heartwarming, i remember being at pride with my aromantic flag, someone asked what flag that was and i explained it, the look of pity on them will never really leave me. Just accepting and acknowlidging what it is without adding any comment (even a funny one like "daaamn that sucks", "couldnt be me" etc) was just... *nice*
As a Muslim who can't be in pride, I respect y'all. I know you don't really like being.. referenced that way, and I won't because I actually understand you're human.
FR
Unus Annus?? 👀
@@Karu_the_Kiwi Memento Mori, my friend
@@birchbarks550 Memento Morí 🤍🤍🖤
7:57 as someone who also does art pretty often, when drawing someone (depends on your style) you don't want them to be basic
9:23 no girl dont pls- this is fuckin disturbing wdym "give her all the lip fillers she "NEEDS"??
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bro she make everyone with good lips its her art so she said she need dont be offensive that much
@@ishikawatwinsMf she's talking about a real person 💀 stop coping with the same face syndrome bruh
Every time on the internet there is not a day that goes by without hearing that koolen has done some thing to upset the art community as a whole
😭😭😭
You can tell common sense does not exist in her head, and or she does this on purpose for the sake of starting drama. Though I am betting on the former rather than the latter.
@@thisislame2207many artists are known for going against an establish3d intrenched faction that stifles creativity for unfounded and generally falsely pretensed moral authority that in practice is seldom enforced unless the art or artist in question is in opposition to the controlling group. The hays code comes to mind. This sort of thing really does point out the insanity of such a system.
Right, its just.. sharp inhale through teeth lmao. Yikes, just yikes.
@@casematecardinalI mean, the Patrickussy in this video was more relevant to the Hays code comparison than Kooleen, as it’s going against potential, actual TH-cam censorship. Kooleen was just being a bit of a tit, not fighting suppression. If you insult someone, especially someone like jaiden, it’s fair for people to get annoyed about it.
SIR!! out of all the pictures of Patrick, `WHY THAT ONE?!`
🤣
Your voice makes this feel like Bob Ross digging up internet dirt and I love it.
Also does Kooleen even realize that all of them are animators? The avatar they use most likely have a plain shirts and simple shapes because it's more complicated to animate patterned and complex designs. Especially if they started out as a beginner with little to no knowledge on animating!
I'm pretty sure she knows this and was just cracking jokes.
Kooleen try not to get in trouble challenge IMPOSSIBLE
THIS!!!
Thats how they get the clout
@@MalevoIentBackshots what?
@@KO_Star_boi don’t take it in a mean way, i meant that this comment is speakin’ facts😭
@@MalevoIentBackshots ok
MOHAMMED.. PATRICK PICTURE.... 😭😭😭😭PHONE, TABLE, NOW.
Really like neoowwwwwuh! 😭😭
When???
@@funky_authorist.official 2:38
@@funky_authorist.official 2:38
Calming yet funny. Open and accepting of learning new stuff. Nuanced takes. Nice voice. Subscribed👍🏼
10:57 a joke on someone's expense are just sugarcoated insults
Yeah, that's how they really feel
Off topic, but that is what I like about surreal humor. Traditional jokes so often follow the format of 'bad thing happens to guy I don't like'/'guy I don't like is stupid', while surreal humor is based on mutual understanding and agreement ('we both agree this is funny, so it is, even if it makes no sense').
can't we just forget koleen even existed in the first place already, it's not like anything she draws is any memorable either so why does anyone even care
THIS
it's like AI art but made by a person
bc ppl are chronically online and would live off of internet "dramas" that they exaggerate for entertainment
@@notreal9214 its almost like ai art is made by training the ai with actual artists art 😭
On it boss o7 as soon as i finish this video im gonna forget they ever existed and go back to only watching my usual fish facts videos boss
13:25 she made him look like human spongebob 💀
I initially thought it *was* human Spongebob lol
Real😭💀
Dude. Actually Spob...
I like how this video is basically a lesson about overstepping the personal boundaries of a person and the great consequences of it, I used to watch her videos but it wasn't that long that I discovered that her content was becoming more problematic and obnoxious than being funny.
This is off topic but I really like how calming and unique your voice is, you have my subscribe!!
Love your reaction to learning the definition of Aro-Ace. No questioning whether it's real or possible or calling it strange, just reading and accepting.
You're awesome, thanks.
People question it? Its kinda simple imo
@@SageEditzz Yep, some people think it isn’t real. It’s irritating
"Oh you have little to no romantic or sexual feelings towards others? Understandable, have a great day!"
@@TheAliceUwU exactly! it's nice to see someone just accept that different people experience life differently.
You know the funniest/most fucked up part? She created, edited and voiced over the entire video, and not once did she think twice about how it sounded. Maybe, she should've had a second opinion before posting.
She most likely did it on purpose, the drama brings attention
It really wasn't that big of a deal man. Some ppl just love blowing shit out of proportion for no reason
@@ganimol9691fr, the people in the comments section are insane. 😂 this is a nothing burger
@@mathieul4303 And you think saying "cracker" is a slur😂 you don't get an opinion small headed dimwit
@@ganimol9691 yeah, I don’t approve of what she did, but I still won’t hate on her. That’s just dumb. I don’t think the art Sexualized Jaiden, some art styles are just like that, but Kooleen comments definitely did. But that’s just what Kooleen does, the internet must accept that. Also, I’ve definitely heard ‘Mommy’ as a compliment before, it doesn’t have to be sexual.
8:00 the reason the shirt is like that is because it takes less time to draw a design on the shirt you would think a fellow artist would know that
Yes and it's just more or less better for animating!
She know that
@TheAroSpecWallet grow up
@mrpickles-hb6zx b, you grow up! what are you on?! touch grass!!!
Nigga... she was joking. Are you guys just ignoring her obvious over-the-top tone on purpose? Are you looking for reasons to dislike her? Are you trying to justify your hatred? Bet ya wouldn't care if she was black or hispanic saying this. God forbid someone not black or hispanic is edgy... good lord bro, can't make this stuff up.
I could understand where theyre coming from with "its the avatar not the person" but then she used Jaiden's irl self as a refrence, and that argument went out the window
I'm also AroAce, how you so casually just explained and accepted it was really heartwarming. Thank you for just being like "Eh, alright".
I haven't watched Jaiden in a while, but even I knew about her past eating disorders and had caught up with her "being not straight" video. It bugs me how Kooleen tried to blend Jaiden's persona/avatar with an actual image of Jaiden herself (which she has taken years to be comfortable sharing her image on screen it was an entire journey she shared later with her fans), by pausing on Jaiden's stream and saying weirdly s3xu4l things about her then later implying she's only referencing the avatar. Calling attention to Jaiden just existing was weird imo. If she didn't know about Jaiden's past, it's an odd thing to say about anyone that she doesn't seem to repeat for Domics or Odd1sOut. If she knew about Jaiden's past, why would she say it... at all? Jaiden has made it clear she doesn't like attention called to her own image, which is why she uses a cartoon persona, so to pause on her image and repeatedly comment on "bringing out Jaiden's epic goth mommy" that isn't repeated for the others is very bizarre behavior.
Fictional characters are fictional and are there for the imagination, so that's more of a grey area, but when you openly mock both the art style of a *cartoon representation* not being accurate to their real-world person and joke about someone continuously not being "s3xy" enough or needing to "bring out" the "goth mommy" they should be showing off? Are you s3xu4lizing Jaiden or just her avatar? Both? Cause it seems like both. Jaiden is not her avatar, but Kooleen's comments imply the s3xy representation is of both art and artist. If it was meant to be just the avatar, she should've left the tattoo off. On top of this; commenting the most on someone's appearance who has struggled very publicly with that topic, making comments about "fixing" how to represent herself and make her avatar cuter, but zooming through and just drawing James (Odd1sOut) as a cute boy and disregarding his avatar completely? ?Excuse me hwat?? (I know these are meant to be a one-off art pieces, but the condescending tone of "wow, this original art is awful, doesn't MINE look better??" over Jaiden's side-by-side is inescapable and so inappropriate? No, Kooleen? No, neither looks better, you're comparing a cute lil doodle cartoon meant for flexible emotive representation to a detailed one-off personal portrait that's meant to be eye-candy.)
If maybe she only brought up the avatars as references and didn't bother with looking up what they look like I could ignore it, but I can't imagine what was going through Kooleen's mind when she brought up both using the actual youtubers as "reference" to "fix" the models representing them by yass-ifying them while insulting their art styles for not meeting her anime-Korean-webtoon-esque standards? (The style isn't the issue here, but implying you're fixing the style to make it better than the "basic bland millennial" cartoon is weird an obscure. Cartoony styles aren't something that needs to be fixed or really even commented on. Low detail things are fun, high detail things are fun. Both have their pros and cons and are valid regardless. But stop implying you "made it better" for drawing something in a pretty style.)
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I agree.
It could be a good comment but I ain't reading that 💀
100% -- see im a huge advocate for being allowed to draw and write whatever you want but I do draw a line at RPF and using real people as avatars for your sexualization. I fully understand the use and benefits of sexualizing images and book characters as a coping mechanism or just for shits and giggles -- but when real people are involved you start treading a dangerous line... because imagine you found fanfiction or fanart drawn of not someone who LOOKS like you but someone who is MEANT TO BE YOU. then make that person do something you are inherently uncomfortable with... like if i saw fanart of me being religious and married to a man and pregnant i'd be very uncomfortable.
What Kooleen did was absolutely not okay. I decided to unfollow her youtube channel because that's the only thing I can do atm.
p.s. the grey area is when you use say real ppl models as references for your character -- take for example Sherlock Holmes BBC Benedict cumberbatch -- and you draw sexualized images of him and john but they bear resemblances to the actors... if you are adament that these are the CHARACTERS and you give some sort of sign that they are these characters or at least make the effort to move away from the actors -- I dont see an issue with it... it might make the actors uncomfy but ultimately you aren't sexualizing the actor themselves you are sexualizing an image and a persona that they put out there... that's why if Kooleen stuck to JUST THE AVATARS then I don't think there would be an issue. Using Real person reference has to be done with SO much tact and care as to not insult, degrade, or discriminate against your model.
yeah im just ugh it's so awful... i knew Kooleen was edgy and i liked it a little... but ultimately she got to a point where her videos became just derogatory for no good reason... and her art really isn't at the level where she should be having all that cocky confidence. It is good don't get me wrong, but ... she still can't draw hands.
The Patrick took me out 😂 🤦🏾♀
😭😭😭😭
@@MohammedAgbadi crazy photo goes fire
I can never unsee that
When
Here I am feeling lowkey guilty simply for finding certain content creators attractive, meanwhile people like this feel the need to be disrespectful and creepy about it.
I've only ever heard "goth mommy" used on fictional characters until now and I can't imagine being so socially inept as to use it on a real person who I don't even know lmao
Thoughts don't make you creepy. Actions do.
This exactly. Do you have any idea how creepy I felt even thinking about holding someone I knew in real lifes hand? How can someone do this and see nothing wrong??
@@arandom7595 ...you're not creepy for that. That is literally apart of human normality. That is physical socialization. That is an actual problem, like on a level.
@@pufflord_gamesonicsoloesyo2365 yeah, I'm working on my reactions to physical contact and expressing my emotions. I'm slowly getting better :].
@@arandom7595 Well, I'm glad. And if I may, from one stranger to another, don't be so quick to shame yourself. If you're not sure about something, that's fine. Making yourself out to be some kinda villain or something isn't right. Keep it up though, and best of luck!
11:59 “I just made her inner mommy come out” WHAT. . . 😨
Me when im in a breaking boundaries contest but im up against koolaid- *kooleen (I’ve lost 😔)
TLDR: respect people boundaries and don’t be weird espically if they express that they don’t wanna be sexualize. Cause unfortunately around two years ago I think. Jaiden had gotten a lot of people draw NSFW art work of her. That’s why she’s not okay with people sexualizing her along with the fact that’s she’s ace
Edit: these comments sections are making my head hurts
Listen, they're not making art of Jaiden, they're making art of her OC.
This is what happens when you make your oc you, this is what happens to anyones oc
it's actually happening more after her coming out video, it's disgusting how these artists and people treat her just because she's a girl ☹
Edit: LMFAOO some of y’all doing tricks on kooleen in the replies 💀
@@sirgentlebread7302They quite literally are making art of her. That avatar shown in her videos is a representation of her, her avatar LOOKS like her. So it's still weird and massively disrespectful.
@@falcon_arkaig You don't get it
When somebody makes fanart of Hermione Granger, are they making fanart of Hermione Granger or Emma Watson?
@@verrrrrr.Lmao they just lewd her art. Y'all get triggered over pixels
Its so weird for her to take someones personal representation of themself, insult it, then find a pic of the actual person and sexualize them. To anyone but also for someone who has been very public about being aroace and not wanting to be sexualized and her past body dysmorphia. There is a line and kooleen crossed it several times over, starting with choosing a real person to "yassify" (also just call it a glowup? The art she does is not faithful to the drag origins and is not really yassifying so she should call it something else idk)
You're making it much more than it is
How@@pufflord_gamesonicsoloesyo2365
Stop pretending she drew the actual girl, Jaden is NOT The fictional character she draws in her videos.
@@toppi. so why did she reference actual photos of Jaiden and use Jaidens real life tattoos? 🤔
@@qryptid”reference” you made a counter argument in your own argument, dumbasss
As a Filipino, we do not claim her bro I so sorry lmfao
fuck you bringing nationality for lmao
samee
don't pass it cuz no one gonna take this disgrace of humanity
😒😒🙄😮💨
@@SakiyoAngelo 🤫🤫🧏♀️😋
For a second I thought this was just about the drawing she made, and I was kinda like "Idk, making a hot drawing some somebody's TH-cam avatar isn't that crazy". Then I saw the "goth mommy" thing, and I'm like "Yeah... that's really weird actually". Then I realized she actually said that about Jaiden's IRL appearance, and I think that's the thing that brought this from strange to like... really creepy, especially when Jaiden is very well known for not being comfortable with her appearance. She shouldn't have shown Jaiden's real life appearance in the video to begin with.
MY GRANDMA WAS IN THE ROOM WHEN THE PATRICK PICTURE POPPED UP WTFFF
Rest in peace
Nice, I hope she started you down and backed out of the room in fear.
11:45
I’m not much of an artist myself. But if had someone take my art, and “yassify” it, I’d be pretty offended. Jaidens avatar is plain so it’s easy to animate in short periods of time, and is also meant to somewhat represent her. Not be an exact copy. Could you imagine animating kooleens version? I really don’t think anyone would want to animate that. Just a bunch of unnecessary comments on kooleens part..
I was thinking that too! She was basically coming for the CC’s art styles and it’s not cute. Just cuz it’s simple doesn’t mean it’s bad or less appealing than something that’s “yasified.” And again, she’s not getting the practical end of it.
kooleen drawings look so bland it's not even funny, they are every generic "hot character drawing" you see online. Jaiden and Odd1 drawings are immediately recognizable for their style.
Is this the evolution of braindead "artists" on Twitter "fixing" people's art? I found this video in my recommended and I'm honestly kinda mad. I'm pretty sure AI-generated art would wipe this trash
@@voidwalker9939did she ever say she was "fixing" them?
who gives a shit buddy. it’s just a drawing
@@voidwalker9939look at this weirdo lol
thank you for beeing such a cool dude! :D
seeing you learn about ACE/ARO stuff, and being just chill is very appreciated.
every other youtuber i've seen a youtuber mention it briefly, have been weird about it.
It's hard to understand for most people. It goes against fundamental laws of nature. I can't blame them or anyone else for being "weird" per se
Not the first time humanity rebels against nature for the sake of our comfort and psychology. I can’t judge.
@@jacksonvoet8312 Well you're not wrong, but mother nature always wins, her track record is spotless
@@pufflord_gamesonicsoloesyo2365 Well that’s a foolish idea. Mother Nature has been losing the second we started the Industrial Revolution. The hole in the ozone only cleared up once WE, humanity, stopped using aerosols. Mother Nature yields to any being with sufficient will. The fact that some species reproduce without sex, and some species like penguins form same sex couples implies that remnants of the behavior of I attraction is likely still in our DNA. While I do value the environment, Mother Nature, which is a fictional character by the way, has never really won a bout with humanity. Pestilence of the four horsemen maybe, but not her.
Lmao what is happening here
all of kooleen's comments feel like a bad attempt to be sarcastic, and really just make the video feel like she hated drawing in that video
5:07 this is such a little thing for me to be happy about but I love the way you were just like-- "ohh huh. Yeah ok." and completely chill about aroace made me feel so happy because we are very used to being told we are "broken" or "wrong"
Its the little things.
Im Christian and bicurious (I think Im bisexual idk), and one of my local pastors said smth like 'i think these people that say they dont feel attraction for anyone are actually just lying, because no human can actually live by themselves' and I thought that was really ass of him tbh
@@Furina_-_De_-_Cuntaine biromantic ace here to say that you are valid dont listen to them dude
@@Furina_-_De_-_Cuntainei don’t understand why some people can’t comprehend how sexuality works. my mum used to ask me about it and it’s funny because it’s genuinely the same way that a girl would like a guy, the gender is just different LOL
@WatermelonWhatThe That pastor clearly needs to understand the situation on those who don't feel attracted to someone. Also, im really curious about Christians and wanted to know so i sincerely apologize is if I sounded rude but, I've read something in an article that had me thinking in which of its true that there are LGBTQ Christians because the topic sounded controversial (if im not wrong remembering it, it was like this):
¹ There are no such things as LGBTQ Christians. It's the same as a witch Christian, a serial killer Christian, or a satanist Christian. (I had to search these verses up since I had almost forgotten it) Genesis 1, 27 "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created He them." Male and female does not mean gender, it mean biological sex.
² Homosexuality is wrong, but it all comes down to sin, and son flows from a corrupt heart. That's why we need to accept Jesus and allow the Holy Spirit to do its work. But, even so, we can't straightforwardly tell the person it is wrong everytime we see them won't help them, their sin flows from past hurts etc.
(The third part just goes on saying about how Christians should love them. And it sounded like LGBTQ aren't supposed to be part of them)
³We can co exist with others but we have the will to choose to not support what they do or say. If they can be who they truly are, then the point of laws and governing rules for the citizens are of no point useless. We have to love the LGBTQ community but don't support them nor curse at them that they're going to hell because then we're talking like we are a child of Satan. Instead, we have to help them and guide them out of their sinning lives to live in the way of Christ as a child of God. Though, it doesn't mean we aren't sinners to begin with, we ourselves, should repent too as God sees all sins are the same with no exceptions.
2:37 did not expect to see that
brooo
I'm flabbergasted 💀
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Are you feeling it now Mr.Krabs 💀
Ah hell nah XD
I've disliked kooleen ever since she made the video on pewdiepie. Something always seemed off about her attitude and I'm surprised people didn't notice sooner.
Making art like this of Jaiden's avatar was already scummy because she explicitly made it clear that she did not want any 18+ art made of her.
But to use her REAL SELF as a reference is just- NO, that is revolting, and a violation of boundaries. Shame on Kooleen.
I agree on the second part, but...she did not make 18+ art of her... it was pretty sfw, actually...
@@milenartmeire2588she did make a bunch of nsfw comments
@@vinnie144 Innapropiate? Yes. NSFW/18+? Not really. I wouldnt really count "Mommy" as nsfw/18+. Don't get me wrong, Im not defending her, she was disrespectful, but calling it nsfw/18+ is a stretch ...
I mean, it wasn’t really 18+
Not defending Kooleen, but just pointing that out.
How was it 18+ ?? it was literally a Samdoesart style portrait….
watching kolleen makes me so damn uncomfortable. if somebody morphed my face into a ”conventionally attractive one” id get so damn pissed
We are both attractive enough we don’t need no modifications with a drawing 😤😤😤
One of few art discourses that's actually understandable.
Sexualizing ppl's self-inserts/persona is not at all okay imo considering it's suppose to be them. Yes, some ppl are ok with it but not everyone is. It's not "them" literally, but it's an abstraction that they've design to represent themselves. If Kooleen was gonna "yassify" Jaiden's self-insert, could she have had the common sense and decency to at least NOT reference her actual face? 🤦🏾♀️
Starting to think she does/says questionable shit cuz she knows she's gonna get clicks for it.
You hit the nail on the head, she's the Asmongold of the art community
Exactly, it was really random and unnecessary for Kooleen to put up a picture of Jaiden irl and comment about her appearance. Instead of using her real life photo as reference, she should've been more creative and redraw Jaiden's avatar in her own style or use her VTuber design as another reference.
It’s literally all for clicks because she finds it hilarious, and people will ALWAYS defend her
MHM self inserts and personas ect Should not be sexualized when a person's CLEARLY said not to. I'm an aroace also, and I was raped as a child leaving me permanently damaged both mentally and physically, so anytime anyone even says anything to me, I lash out at myself and usually end up on the floor bleeding, I've been seeing MANH therapists and psychologists, but there isn't a cure for what happened, the fact people can't fucking understand COMMON KNOWLEDGE and consent is disgusting
Then it should all come under "My oc don't steal" territory like everyone's self-inserts? and like no one needs to DTIYS recognized self-inserts then?
Kooleen’s comments during that video made me so uncomfortable… not only the sexualization, but the subtle bullying (the shirt, the “millennial side-part”…). Kooleen comes across as a “peaked in high school” type of women who would verbally degrade people and try to gaslight them into thinking it’s actually a compliment. She clearly only cares about her own gratification and nothing else.
pretty sure she is just rage bait. that's why i'm trying my best not to watch, comment or interact with her. (mainly through reaction videos).
knowing her past behaviour I hope she doesn't find you and "yassifies" you. who knows what kind of features will be taken away from you. xD
Edit: Could y'all plesse stoo interacting with the one saying "i have thick skin, it wouldn't bother me". You're rage baiting yourself at this point.
Although they missed my point, it's clear what they're trying to achieve under a comment talking about rage bait.
oh hell nah you know she'd make him white and remove his jawline and nose 😭
I'm with you. I can't stand watching all these channels that just curse and act all hateful. They make me so annoyed.
She Will de nibbafied him lol
Being a Filipino, this might not be ragebait, it might just be that Koleen is a drama queen. Yes, she's baiting people, but not to get reactions, instead for the drama and being the center of attention
Yeah, I'm glad I'm not watching her content, especially ever since that "gorilla" incident
"i made her inner mommy come out" made me puke in my mouth a little good god 😭
just end me
Dude she turned the odd1sout into a twinky SpongeBob humanisation I’m crying
"I can't yassify a naked bald guy" skill issue
Even if she did say sorry I can never forgive her for what she said !
"I just don't draw ugly people"
Like what does she define as ugly?? 😭
Obviously, by their own personal standards. For all people, there is something they define as beautiful and something they don't.
People are different, it's normal. I don't like a lot of people, for example, and others may not consider me attractive by their own standards. And that's okay in principle.
It's not about how nice someone is , it's about looks, we shouldn't really hate someone because of there looks
@@JustArandomPersonXD Well, from her quote, I think she meant that she only paints people who are attractive by her standards. Which is understandable, because you paint what you like.
But I also understand what you're saying, like she called everyone else ugly.
It's just not clear whether there was any malicious intent behind it, or whether she was just talking about her tastes, preferences.
@@gingertale_true but you can do that without bashing others and that’s the problem 😭
That mindset in my opinion is why she isn't an artist
Art is about expression
But all she ever learnt is
Art = pretty people
People need to look up what "Avatar" means... It's a representation of a person, and in this case, Jaiden quite literally uses that avatar as herself online. It's kinda fucked up to judge what she prefers to see herself as on the internet
For the love of all that is holy, she was JOKING! I've never watched a Kooleen video a DAY in my LIFE and I CAN TELL. Why the ACTUAL HELL is it so hard for "PEOPLE" to see that?
@@pufflord_gamesonicsoloesyo2365 Freedom of speech honey, you say something fucked up - you get consequences. People like you wanna hide behind "it's just a joke" shield all their life but nobody around is dumb. Nobody gives a f about lame excuses. Grow up.
@@pufflord_gamesonicsoloesyo2365 hey, just letting you know, calling something a joke doesnt make it okay 💕 if someone says its funny to be racist or misogynistic or to hurt people that doesnt somehow make it funny, same way saying its funny to blatantly insult and disrespect someones boundaries doesnt somehow make it funny 💕💕💕 so maybe you should try doing the seeing
@@ariannebrodeur You're being hateful. It's genuinely appalling. And I'm very confident in what I'm saying, don't get the wrong idea. This reaction is as baseless and senseless as it gets.
@@pufflord_gamesonicsoloesyo2365 lol they were being anything but hateful; do you know what hateful means?
As a fellow aroace, if someone took my art account avatars/sonas and "yassified" them while making a bunch of sexual comments about them I WOULD BLOCK THEM IN EVERY PLATFORM POSSIBLE. Even tho mime dont look as much as me as Jayden's. Also given koolen used IRL Jayden as a reference, thats disgusting. I'd cry.
At the point that someone made it clear they don't like sexual comments or being sexualized and someone still does it, THAT'S SEXUAL HARASSMENT.
Also cultural (mis)appropriation of the black community and AA(V)E?
Why oa, block me later... Imagine. Instead of a stranger trying to friends you will identify them as your enemy because you don't like how they approach you. I mean you will not die in changes to a bunch pixels without a big reason. You have every reason to protect yourself from danger and bad things. But spamming hate because of mindset is just straight toxic. She didn't even make nswf like what people do politicians or what call like vandalizing or boyism act like rule 34. It is just a fan art. 😢 I really don't know why guys are acting aggressive just for supporting someone. I wish someday guys you learned how cyber bullying works. And not pretend to not guilty to your action.
@@jeusmarcomascarina4102 Making SEXUAL COMMENTS like calling her a GOTH MOMMY TOWARDS someone that has already said they DON'T want any of that is SEXUAL HARASSMENT.
If the way someone, A STRANGER, approaches me is by making weird SEXUAL comments about me I rather have NOTHING to do with them. THEY ARE BEING CREEPS.
I AM NOT OBLIGATED TO BEFRIEND ANYONE I DON'T WANT, MUCH LESS A CREEP.
@@marnadnay she wasnt right for calling someone she doesnt know goth mommy, but holy, you guys apparently wanna kill her for this mistake lmao just say it wasnt right and move on, i would understand if she was actively commenting like omg i would fuck her !! but no, its literally just a meme. and no, she isnt right, but what you guys are doing isnt either.
@@jeusmarcomascarina4102 Unwanted sexual comments towards someone is legit sexual harassment. Jaiden is a REAL PERSON who has openly stated she does NOT want these comments made about or towards her. Would you go up to a stranger and call them a "goth mommy" or other sexual things IRL? If not, then why make that same advance online? The comments are still directed at a real person, and what you say online still has consequence whether we like it or not. Sexual harassment is a real thing, especially online spaces.
MOOD 8:25 Bless Jaiden tho, she’s so lovely
Was so confused abt Kooleen but this has helped, ty!
I do love the art but doing art of her, and what she said etc is so wrong.
9:44 literally could’ve just added the word “persona” after her name
“Jaiden’s persona may have nonexistent lips”
Koolen try not to disrespect people challenge: impossible
😭😭
As someone who is aroace myself, I'm so tired of other people disregarding our identity, as though it's lesser than other identites. I already have to deal with people shipping aroace characters in media, but ignoring a real person being aroace really hits a nerve
I've never seen a video of or from jaden animations, literally the only thing i know about her is that she's aroace, so clearly it's not something that's hard to find out
Us aroace’s know no peace, I hate how EVERYTHING has to be sexualized in this society, including us. And don’t you dare complain about it or people with say you are perpetuating purity culture 😭
@@Nigh_Temptation I'm not Aro/Ace, but I also hate that if you criticize that X thing should not be sexualized (because is weird af), now you are a "monk" or a "nun".
To me I feel neutral if it fictional since it not real life and people could possibly change their sexuality into something else to make them have a relationship the same way every character with a fandom endure
But real life? Real ass people? Yeah fuck nah that a problem alright
@@Nigh_Temptation There's a ton of things in society that aren't sexualized though. And this is what happens when you give people freedoms that honestly... they shouldn't have. Bodily autonomy is fine to an extent, but the fact that people are out here allowed to have 15 kids with 15 different men/women is absolutely absurd. I think being grossed out by a part of animal nature is pretty asinine buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut. In this context, you're taking a joke way too far.
When straight men and or straight women make these kinda jokes towards one another... how are you supposed to take it seriously? It's just edgy humor, no need to get so bent out of shape.
@@pufflord_gamesonicsoloesyo2365 … man the fuck are you even saying? You call me absurd for a part of my sexuality I cannot control: “I think being grossed out by a part of animal nature is pretty asinine”, you tell me I’m taking a joke too far (what joke? Where tf is the joke?), you talk about people having a bunch of kids (where does that tie into what we are talking about?), and then you pull the “it’s just edgy humor” card on me. What are you trying to tell me 😭
I'm wearing a basic black shirt with - gasp grips the table - with the sleeves rolled up 😂