With 40+ laps in a 420bhp Focus RS I can assure you that this car is not operating properly if it is tuned to 470bhp, something is definitely wrong with that car…
I own a Mk3 RS with lots of mods. This looks around 390-400 bhp - full bolt-ons, not the 460 claimed. If its hot, I can see timing being pulled. They are also notorious to heat-up. I'm running a thicker rad and soon will install an oil cooler. Then after that you start to heat up the power steering.
Looks like it might be a Revo Stage 2 tuned MK3 with 440HP max ,but on warm days it probably only running around 410HP. These engines are known to get really hot so for example Revo engineered a safety feature in their software which will auto reduce power if IAT or EGT climbs up to undesirable levels.
If I were you, Misha, I would seriously have a look in the car to see if there are any loose items. It can be really dangerous having things flying around when shit hits the fan.
Exactly! I was on track last week and getting rid of the loose items was in the rules and they even randomly checked it. A professional like Misha should definitely have this in pre-drive checklist.
Here in Finland you are not even allowed on track if there is something loose inside car just because of this, that headrest flying in the back would do serious damage :/ luckily nothing happened!
Looks like Misha proves nearly every video: Upgrade Tires/wheels, Brakes, Cooling, then maybe horsepower mods only after the previous items. Also proves good driver with a properly sorted car more than makes up for the "MORE POWER" tune.
For track use - yes. However most of the cars Misha drives are not track cars, so they normally dont really ever see the kind of sustained heat that driving on the ring provides. On the street less cooling is just fine. Added power is only used for short bursts on the street unless you are a complete lunatic.
Lovely car but think it's carrying an issue - it seems to be low on power. My fiesta st with 215hp had higher top speeds going into Tiergarten and Schwedenkreuz on a hot evening. Hopefully it's an easy fix for the owner
@redatorak If i tell you that you know sh!t you will ask me why?Ford didnt recall the pre '17 gen but any Ford dealer can upgrade the map of ECU to rev.2 that all cars doing 341-344 bhp and 450nm torque.🤡
For everyone wondering why it seems so slow in the higher gears is because the car is experiencing heat Soak from the Turbo. This is caused by the Turbo getting too hot and putting hot air back into the engine. Which normally can be fixed by an upgraded Intercooler. I had the same problem with my Focus ST at 30 PSI with the stock Intercooler. The ECU will detect hot temperatures in the engine bay caused by the Turbo and will cause the car to go in sort of a limp mode until it can properly get the engine to temperature. Which is why you see it struggling past 120 mph
I am watching all of your videos and love them. There is a common issue that modifications to upgrade the engine power are generally made without knowledge. We can also see that on your videos. Mostly these cars have always have a overheating problem. Cheaply made modifications brings these problems. I can understand that people does not want to spend more on the car but great power skill brings the hospital bills. There lots off cooling stuff that are sold after market like bigger and better radiators, oil radiators and racing coolants.
The thing i love the most about this videos is the fact that those car owners did a few burnouts or a few quarters pools and thought thay tested the car until micha gets in the driver seat and show them all the flaws of their cars and also what's it's capable of ❤
4:07 you can see what Misha refers to, the left side, next to the tachometer, looks like a windows washer sprayed some. Nice run. You should make a comparison of which factory or near factory car did not overheat on the Nürnburgring. Would be fun to watch :)
I remember this car came out it was so hyped out by ford because of the e brake and drift button it was the hottest hatch in its year. But know they kind of go under the radar but still pretty expensive to buy they hold value pretty well i guess.
I have a stage 3 focus Rs that I used to drive at Sebring. Countless issues with overheating and losing rdu and power. This car could absolutely be 460bhp, when it’s running hot, the car essentially runs in limp mode without really telling you, so you will gradually lose power until either the RDU shuts off or until the ecu finally tells you it’s pulling power.
Het wordt tijd dat er standaard een camera montage punt onder het dashboard wordt gemaakt door de autofabrikanten om het voeten werk van Misha te kunnen filmen.
i didn't see if there was a intercooler mod but there better be. Focus Rs, mustang EB's, Rangers, all use a variety of 2.3l open deck Ecoboost motors. Intercooler upgrade is best thing you can do. I am pretty sure that Focus RS is a 2.3l. they heat up quick without it. Ford really pooped then bed when designing the intercooler.
I have a mk3 RS and I love it! But it does run on the hotter side when I push it on the track. My first 2 significant mods are going to be an oil cooler and an air oil separator. After that I might do the usual power upgrades.
i have the privilage to drive a mark 3 RS as my daily. I always loved the Focus RS models and as i could get one, i did it. Love the car, love the chasis and finaly, you gotta drive one. Thx for the video 👍
It's probably a feature enable by the tune. The engine cuts off right when the clutch is depressed automatically. Theoretically it makes you a little faster since you don't have the potential delay of having to travel your foot from the gas pedal.
Agreed. Anyway, the owner mentioned "260" I believe, which since he's from the US is probably Fahrenheit, -> ~125° C. And I assume that's water temp, because oil temp of 125° C would not yet be a problem.
That's the same 2,3l like Ford mustang Ecoboost.With 350hp of origin this engine is already hot but with 100hp more it is necessary to upgrade all the heat exchangers. Always the same thing!😁
What was your impressions with the car besides the lack of cooling and obviously a non accurate claim of power. (probably 380ish hp the super Small turbo runs out of steam past 100mph pretty quickly
I own an focus ST and trust me it has more power to give on a stock turbo this there is something majorly wrong with the car my is a diesel tuned to 270 and it seems like it could out perform this
Think there is an issue… I don’t see 460hp there? More like 250.. or it’s in pre limp mode? For 460hp you need forged engine and upgraded turbo! The rattling is from the hpfp i guess? Some seem to be ticking very loud😅
People always want power and spend thousands of dollars to say I have “X” amount of power but you would have more fun if you just spent half and made that engine more fun and you can floor it all day with zero issues. Watching too many videos with heating videos and I cannot understand why people never learn.
It does not matter to these people. They use these cars for traffic light "racing" and maybe short bursts at the motorway. And mostly you just see these cars in the city where they just want them to be loud to get attention. Pathetic, but there you go.
That rattling sound at the begining of the video qhen the hood is opened sounds annoying, could it be the turbo actuator that needs to be adjusted? Cool car btw and nice driving!
It's probably a feature enable by the tune. The engine cuts off right when the clutch is depressed automatically. Theoretically it makes you a little faster since you don't have the potential delay of having to travel your foot from the gas pedal.
Its called flatshifting you can do that with every manuel car :) Its just not good for the clutch it wears out much faster. In the video he prob has a special tune
Please get a 2017+ Audi TTRS 8S stage 2 full bolt ons on the channel! If I was close by I would bring mine to you but too bad I live on the other side of the country! Edit: other side of the world!
Anyone else also hates when passenger jumps around as you accelerate or brake? 🙂 On a serious note, for driving like this car needs sport safety belts and better cooling.
I've got a mk3 RS with a custom tune running on 94 AKI. This looks like about the same power levels; mine is 335hp/393tq to the wheels on vdyno, 2 way average over 6 runs. It's the 4th gear acceleration that really shows it's nowhere near 460hp. I'm sure the tuner claims 460 crank, but IMO it's not even close.
Business idea: rental lockers at the Nordschleife entrance so people can clear out their backseats and trunks
For the safety of your driving and to focus on it please keep your stuff in the safe locker 😂
@@hasanalothman27 Avoid distractions - leave your shit here 😂
good call
Business idea: no race until Micha installs new cooling parts!
Amazing idea
the feet cam falling down is getting iconic lol
Because of the G-Force
With 40+ laps in a 420bhp Focus RS I can assure you that this car is not operating properly if it is tuned to 470bhp, something is definitely wrong with that car…
It seems kinda slow, right (for 460bhp)...?🧐
@@SPQR_GuiGui only 210kmh at swedenkreus, 300hp maybe?
His gears seemed really long, that 4th ot 5th gear was struggling.
@@BasRikken Should be around 350bhp from factory so I'd guess around that maybe ?
I had 210 with my Volvo C30 Polestar 250hp, 2 persons cargo. 25-30 degrees celcius.
I own a Mk3 RS with lots of mods. This looks around 390-400 bhp - full bolt-ons, not the 460 claimed. If its hot, I can see timing being pulled. They are also notorious to heat-up. I'm running a thicker rad and soon will install an oil cooler. Then after that you start to heat up the power steering.
Not even that looks slower than a stock one.
It defos looks slower than a stock I own a focus ST it's 270 bhp and being a diesel engine I bet I could put perform this
About heating issues, I remember cranking the heat to the max to cool down the engine and opening the windows a bit to cool the cabin...
Every old school car guy knows about that trick :D
That helps
@@frog382Except us air cooled VW/Porsche guys.
Give that a try and tell me how much that helps haha. 😜
@@ocavant At least you dont have coolant issues ;D
Looks like it might be a Revo Stage 2 tuned MK3 with 440HP max ,but on warm days it probably only running around 410HP. These engines are known to get really hot so for example Revo engineered a safety feature in their software which will auto reduce power if IAT or EGT climbs up to undesirable levels.
Did the air freshener give it away
Won’t be Revo stage 2. It’s a US car with COBB accessport. Most likely Stratified or similar. It also has flat foot shifting which Revo doesn’t have
If I were you, Misha, I would seriously have a look in the car to see if there are any loose items. It can be really dangerous having things flying around when shit hits the fan.
Exactly! I was on track last week and getting rid of the loose items was in the rules and they even randomly checked it. A professional like Misha should definitely have this in pre-drive checklist.
I agree stuff in the back seat is not great, but that foot cam falling off was much more dangerous if it had gotten stuck under the pedals.
@@CatchMeNeverNever understood the footcam myself. Waste of screen space if you ask me.
you must be new lol
Here in Finland you are not even allowed on track if there is something loose inside car just because of this, that headrest flying in the back would do serious damage :/ luckily nothing happened!
Now we want to see the MK2 RS in action. (The one with 5 cylinders)
The mk3 would leave it for dust!
@@martynjames1514 dont care it sounds so much better.
the RS 500 version
@@RicardoPestana would be nice yes, however i think the owers og the rs500 probably dont want to track it.
Can throw my 5 cylinder S Max around
The Focus RS is such a beast! A rally car for the street!
Lovely car and great lap, but I doubt that this car has 460hp
Probably just a cobb or Revo stage 1 definitely not 460bhp
I was going to say that... Struggling to get to 220 Km/h before Schwendenkreuz seems more like stock power to me... 🤔😅
I thought it was really slow. Didn’t go past 130 mph on Schwedenkreuz. My stock MINI Cooper S even did that
i woud say around 380 maybe but never 460…
380 PS bis 390 PS Maximal ☕️
Looks like Misha proves nearly every video: Upgrade Tires/wheels, Brakes, Cooling, then maybe horsepower mods only after the previous items. Also proves good driver with a properly sorted car more than makes up for the "MORE POWER" tune.
Stock power is all you need for the ring.
For track use - yes. However most of the cars Misha drives are not track cars, so they normally dont really ever see the kind of sustained heat that driving on the ring provides. On the street less cooling is just fine. Added power is only used for short bursts on the street unless you are a complete lunatic.
Lovely car but think it's carrying an issue - it seems to be low on power. My fiesta st with 215hp had higher top speeds going into Tiergarten and Schwedenkreuz on a hot evening. Hopefully it's an easy fix for the owner
yeah exactly haha i got a 230hp fiesta it did 215 at schwedenkreuz
After seeing yesterday the video of the M2 competition with 410hp (stock), this one seems to have 300hp. What a difference.
stock its 350hp or 375 dpending, but this one was not great... i mean it was probably making only 390 to 400 if not stock
@@zahnyto709stock is 350 on paper. On a Dyno it makes less power
@redatorak If i tell you that you know sh!t you will ask me why?Ford didnt recall the pre '17 gen but any Ford dealer can upgrade the map of ECU to rev.2 that all cars doing 341-344 bhp and 450nm torque.🤡
You inspire me to make it to the ring Misha. Hope to meet you one day!
Cornering speeds at the beginning were amazing to see 😂
One of these days the feet GoPro will go under the breaking pedal and jam it.
I was thinking the same: dangerous?
For everyone wondering why it seems so slow in the higher gears is because the car is experiencing heat Soak from the Turbo. This is caused by the Turbo getting too hot and putting hot air back into the engine. Which normally can be fixed by an upgraded Intercooler. I had the same problem with my Focus ST at 30 PSI with the stock Intercooler. The ECU will detect hot temperatures in the engine bay caused by the Turbo and will cause the car to go in sort of a limp mode until it can properly get the engine to temperature. Which is why you see it struggling past 120 mph
I waaas waiting this ! For soooo long
Nice to see how well this car rotates in the corner! Very impressive!
To the casual observer, it looked like a very intimate lap 🙂
No way this ford has 460 hp, it looks like less than 300
Agree, My mk3 ST was running 300 brake. And looked faster, even my 15 yo Son told me it was slow.
Stock is 350 hp
Ya I agree my tune just got 351 whp and is way faster
@@PeterWebsterWEBVIDEOcrank not wheel. It’s like 270-280 whp stock
2:45 That moment when you realise that Misha makes things fly and that's not just the car itself but anything loose inside it! 😄
I am watching all of your videos and love them. There is a common issue that modifications to upgrade the engine power are generally made without knowledge. We can also see that on your videos. Mostly these cars have always have a overheating problem. Cheaply made modifications brings these problems. I can understand that people does not want to spend more on the car but great power skill brings the hospital bills. There lots off cooling stuff that are sold after market like bigger and better radiators, oil radiators and racing coolants.
The thing i love the most about this videos is the fact that those car owners did a few burnouts or a few quarters pools and thought thay tested the car until micha gets in the driver seat and show them all the flaws of their cars and also what's it's capable of ❤
Coming up next on Charoudins Coolant Calamities…
Rofl 🤣🤣
lol
🤣🤣
Great driving as usual Misha well done! Ah btw my beetle has 700 hp!
It’s amazing how much he holds himself in place just by the steering wheel
For the foot cam setup maybe you could try a long velcro strap to fix the cam around the steering column.
4:07 you can see what Misha refers to, the left side, next to the tachometer, looks like a windows washer sprayed some. Nice run. You should make a comparison of which factory or near factory car did not overheat on the Nürnburgring. Would be fun to watch :)
I own a focus ST and can also see Misha struggling with the position of the gearstick, the only thing I'd change about the car!!
300HP with good suspension, brakes and tyres is way better than 500hp without them on the ring.
The car is good, nice balance, good brakes, etc, but Im not convinced about the 460hp.
fairly typical overheat stuff but a lot of the cars misha drives have never been driven to full potential like that, and its fully understandable
Sounds like a Diesel with all that Tappet rattle.
It sounds exactly like the 1.0 ecoboost.
High pressure pump
Misha do you prefer the Focus or Fiesta platform for the ring?
I remember this car came out it was so hyped out by ford because of the e brake and drift button it was the hottest hatch in its year. But know they kind of go under the radar but still pretty expensive to buy they hold value pretty well i guess.
Always a pleasure to watch yours vidéos Misha 💥
Beautiful Focus RS 😍❤
I have a stage 3 focus Rs that I used to drive at Sebring. Countless issues with overheating and losing rdu and power. This car could absolutely be 460bhp, when it’s running hot, the car essentially runs in limp mode without really telling you, so you will gradually lose power until either the RDU shuts off or until the ecu finally tells you it’s pulling power.
Het wordt tijd dat er standaard een camera montage punt onder het dashboard wordt gemaakt door de autofabrikanten om het voeten werk van Misha te kunnen filmen.
i didn't see if there was a intercooler mod but there better be. Focus Rs, mustang EB's, Rangers, all use a variety of 2.3l open deck Ecoboost motors. Intercooler upgrade is best thing you can do. I am pretty sure that Focus RS is a 2.3l. they heat up quick without it. Ford really pooped then bed when designing the intercooler.
The direct injection noise omg 😂😢
I have a mk3 RS and I love it! But it does run on the hotter side when I push it on the track. My first 2 significant mods are going to be an oil cooler and an air oil separator. After that I might do the usual power upgrades.
How cool he brought it over from the states!
Misha can u do a wheel cam of the lap
i have the privilage to drive a mark 3 RS as my daily.
I always loved the Focus RS models and as i could get one, i did it.
Love the car, love the chasis and finaly, you gotta drive one.
Thx for the video 👍
that thing looks tasty pointy in the corners! great lap
Why did you left your foot on the gas as you were clutching in?
Also why it didn't rev like hell? Blows my mind lol.
It's probably a feature enable by the tune. The engine cuts off right when the clutch is depressed automatically. Theoretically it makes you a little faster since you don't have the potential delay of having to travel your foot from the gas pedal.
This is amazing skills man, more manual drives!!!
probably should invest in some bucket seats, the owner was practically in misha's lap
0:12 Thats some diesel level idling noise
All Ecoboosts do this, noisy valves. It's not as if other modern turbo inline-4's sound better. Eg EA888 from VAG makes the same racket.
Hi Misha, it would be cool if somehow you could show us the temperature for reference
Agreed. Anyway, the owner mentioned "260" I believe, which since he's from the US is probably Fahrenheit, -> ~125° C. And I assume that's water temp, because oil temp of 125° C would not yet be a problem.
@@stoneeh125 degrés en eau c'est énorme 😮
This looks like it has been sped up 😂😂😂 Amazing lap!!!
You can always tell when misha is having fun and trying a lil because he doesn’t talk much hahahahahah it’s great
Flat foot shifts. Love it
I didn’t realise Seth Rogan was a car fan 🤫
Isn’t that a cyl knock or a loose fuel pump at the beginning ?
high pressure direct injection
Normal noise
That's the same 2,3l like Ford mustang Ecoboost.With 350hp of origin this engine is already hot but with 100hp more it is necessary to upgrade all the heat exchangers. Always the same thing!😁
Send some of that hot weather our way, Canada is having a shitty summer :(
That should be 460 hp? looks to me like series from 350hp
Looks to me it does not pull a sausage from the table.😬
“Just keep me alive “ 😂🤘
Thank's Misha ;)
I love when @Foxhol the tyres scrape the wheel arches 😄😄
3:56 no way it has 460hp
That car was stocked to the brim like a haberdashery with trinkets to sell😒😂😂😂✌🏽great job Mr.🐐🙏🏽
Mod list for that RS?
Every Focus owner from today onwards, "This is a 9min car with the right driver."....😂😂😂😂
I would like to see a focus rs mk2 tuned driven by you at the Nürburgring, that would be something
Didn't Litchfield in the U.K. give up modifying these because they were too much trouble? A good street car but when pushed they fall apart.
Two big lads in it and you've got around 1800kgs to play with.
My st won't overheat for nothing. 350hp all day stays cool
What was your impressions with the car besides the lack of cooling and obviously a non accurate claim of power. (probably 380ish hp the super Small turbo runs out of steam past 100mph pretty quickly
Not true, there is something wrong with this car. Mine full bolt on with stock turbo ran super strong to 160+
I own an focus ST and trust me it has more power to give on a stock turbo this there is something majorly wrong with the car my is a diesel tuned to 270 and it seems like it could out perform this
the car runs like 300 hp max. No turbo pressure.
Once again about COOLING COOLING COOLING!
Misha, would you buy GR yaris or F RS3? :)
the smoke appeared when the blow-off valve opened. could be moisture ?
Think there is an issue…
I don’t see 460hp there? More like 250.. or it’s in pre limp mode?
For 460hp you need forged engine and upgraded turbo!
The rattling is from the hpfp i guess? Some seem to be ticking very loud😅
My adrenaline spikes Everytime i watch your videos.
How is it possible that he change gear pushing the clutch pedal and don't lift the accelerator pedal. tell me
Some cars have what's called "flat foot shifting" or "no lift shift"
Hi m8,2023 here.
Not sure about the hp as (correct me if i wrong) the stock engine cant push past 440 or so? Just seems off to me
So you can flat shift in all gears with the RS?
460hp in US dyno maybe.
Can someone explain how the engine rev does not increase with gas and clutch down ? Is it some sort of electronic control?
The tune likely has flat foot shifting enabled. My mk3 RS has it in the tune.
Flat shift ? nice. :)
Didn't know they did a diesel rs focus sounds like a mk3 fiesta 😂😂
My gutted 290 WHP focus st gets to 140 much quicker than that. If this has anything more than 400 I’d be really surprised.
People always want power and spend thousands of dollars to say I have “X” amount of power but you would have more fun if you just spent half and made that engine more fun and you can floor it all day with zero issues.
Watching too many videos with heating videos and I cannot understand why people never learn.
It does not matter to these people. They use these cars for traffic light "racing" and maybe short bursts at the motorway. And mostly you just see these cars in the city where they just want them to be loud to get attention. Pathetic, but there you go.
no notification for this upload it kind of crazy
That rattling sound at the begining of the video qhen the hood is opened sounds annoying, could it be the turbo actuator that needs to be adjusted?
Cool car btw and nice driving!
No, it is the noise of the high pressure fuel pump. No issues, its like that
Misha does a bigger brake kit increase stopping power
Or is it only good for heat dissipation and brake fade
How are you able to upshift with your foot still fully on the gas? Is this a racing technique I don't know about?
It's probably a feature enable by the tune. The engine cuts off right when the clutch is depressed automatically. Theoretically it makes you a little faster since you don't have the potential delay of having to travel your foot from the gas pedal.
Its called flatshifting you can do that with every manuel car :) Its just not good for the clutch it wears out much faster. In the video he prob has a special tune
Is it ok to take the carroussel flat out, not ifting at all ?
Noway that's 460hp 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
Misha is going to have to start running the heat in all these cars to try and keep them a bit cooler
Please get a 2017+ Audi TTRS 8S stage 2 full bolt ons on the channel! If I was close by I would bring mine to you but too bad I live on the other side of the country!
Edit: other side of the world!
What´s holding you from a weekend trip!
@@omedonnie It would have to be shipped from halfway across the world as I am in Australia ahaha
@@ohZyki LOL because you said I live on the other side of the country, I figured you were in East Germany.
Anyone else also hates when passenger jumps around as you accelerate or brake? 🙂
On a serious note, for driving like this car needs sport safety belts and better cooling.
Does anyone know what are these wheels Brand on this focus rs and the tyre sizes??
Looks like it’s slower on straights than k20 Honda’s You driven
Blown 4 cylinders, the perfect recipe for overheating. Stay " tuned" 😂
I've got a mk3 RS with a custom tune running on 94 AKI. This looks like about the same power levels; mine is 335hp/393tq to the wheels on vdyno, 2 way average over 6 runs. It's the 4th gear acceleration that really shows it's nowhere near 460hp. I'm sure the tuner claims 460 crank, but IMO it's not even close.