can't believe after all this time they still haven't improved the look and feel of the black holes in the game. Especially sagittarius a* its not as calm there...
They would probably have to model some sort of accretion disks into them and that'd be pretty tricky. Either that or they don't want to devote the dev time to doing so.
still looks impressive, but just not as impressive as Gargantua. but yeah from what ive seen black holes are highly unfinished, which is stopping me from buying this game yet. pulsars look fucking sweet tho
its because you cant see the ship entering the black hole because light does not bounce off the ship once it crosses the event horison because light cant escape the gravitational pull of a black hole once it passes through the event horizon
Spent a good part of my initial time in the game paranoid about crashing into celestial bodies, but it turns out the game just doesn't let you. Sort of ruins the tension.
@@tabularasa0606 To be fair, that's more just a slight oversight due to the way interdictions work. Whenever you are interdicted, you retain the speed of however fast you were going upon interdiction, so if you fly into a body at a fast enough speed, you can be outside the emergency drop zone on one frame, and have travelled fast and far enough on the next frame to be inside the object and for the game to recognize you're within the emergency exclusion drop-out zone. Usually at that point the game realizes somethings gone fucky, you're in a place you're not supposed to be, and it will boot you to menu and have you start back up in a proper area.
Well here’s the thing. In physics any sufficiently fast enough particle will just go through an object without disturbing it. For barionic matter it would be a speed of more than Lightspeed. Since faster than light travel is possible in the game, you technically would just phase though an object if you were to crash into it. So neither you nor the object could experience any disturbances
Plot twist: Your mind actually started visualizing like nothing happened when in reality the ship and your body got torn apart and your mind and consciousness it's only what's left from you.
Landing on the sun station was genuinely one of the most intense and rewarding experiences I've had with a video game. Outer Wilds generally is just my favourite game of all time :) Btw if you've seen Interstellar you'll like this th-cam.com/video/d9cUw-f1kUo/w-d-xo.html
I wish they would update the visuals for black holes. Specially this monster. Edit: I understand some of you feel this is realistic but it would be nice for some creative licence here. It would just be nice to have a planet or some other stars in system to give a sense of awe and scale.
they should do it in the new game, where the whacky stuff that they say happens in real black holes on like Cosmos and shi where you can like see yourself in front of you, is actually in game.
@@jonnyj. the only thing you could do is add accretion disks, because since no one can actually see black holes there's no way to know what they SHOULD look like. So in reality y'all are just upset they're not visually interesting like interstellars gargantua. Frankly, I say leave them as they are, theres nothing wrong with how they're portrayed, as any opinion on what they should look like is just that an opinion.
@@thedarkness125 they're practically impossible to spot with telescopes, but not invisible. If you were near a black hole you could see it, not just the lensing effects.
@@ENGCSHemangVerma Every object with big big mass like a black hole will create spaghettification on your body. But I'm open to learn something new...
@@WofWca It really was far away but it's impossible to actually make a black hole bc we don't know almost anything about them But it's unbelievable how close you can get in Elite... the black hole is in the middle of the galaxy effecting it and.. we can get to a few Ls and nothing happens to a small object like a space ship..
Despite the fact one cannot get sucked into it, despite the fact that it just drops you out of supercruise, despite the fact that there is no real danger.... these things STILL scare the ever loving out of me!!!
when you crash into something by chance, you lose 3% hull and 10% powerplant. When you do it intentionally at the highest speed possible, towards the heaviest object possible, no damage is noticed. This game is something else..
**gets hit by a small, slow rock pebble while docked** “SHIELDS OFFLINE” “HULL INTEGRITY CRITICAL” “LIFE SUPPORT MALFUNCTION” -the elite dangerous experience
@@kevinflaherty1 Technically, jumping into a large black hole is not as destructive as a small one, you'd die either way but recent studies shows you could possibly cross the event horizon of Sagittarius A without dying, you'd just die further in.
except he didn't ram it, the emergency stop prevented him from getting close enough to do any real damage Although I still would've it better if they didn't stop you and your ship just blew up or got torn apart
I mean, that is actually realistic, going towards something at over the speed of light (which you can do in this game obviously) can have a phenomenon know as, I think it was quantum phasing? Something like that, basically all the matter passes in between the gaps of everything and you phase through the object you just crashed into at 40 bajillion m/s
I mean, this makes sense with how supercruise works. Basically the closer you are to mass the slower you go. And since this is a super massive Blackford you can't go all that fast by the time you hit the exclusion zone, compared to a small planet that doesn't show you down as much.
Yeah, it's about 40Ls, not 200, for SgrA*. The black hole at the center of M81 is much bigger -- about 700Ls.
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@@watsisname all these calculations are for the classica relativistic limit of speed of light, but he is traveling into it ~17c, therefore the classical event horizon calculations cannot be used, he would have to slow down c.
This is the video which brought me to Elite... Now several hundred hours of gameplay later, Im first to Discover multiple hundreds, probably even thousands of Systems in this Amazing game. Seriously, Thanks you!
You, an aspiring spacefaerer with a dream. To see the center of our galaxy up close. To see all highly concentrated stars cluster in the sky while the massive, imposing black hole in the center tears up the lights, pulling and stretching the very tissue of spacetime. You feel an urge for discovery. You want to get close, to fall in the immense power by forces of unnimaginable magnitude. You close in, it is unsettling, but relaxing. You know this is it. And as you get to the point of no return, as your view is covered by nothing but stray photons lost in the abyss, you black out. Slowly, you hear birds, and wind, and the sounds of a carriage, feeling a cold breeze in your skin, you open your eyes and "Hey you... You're finally awake."
Actually u can get closer, not this one ofc, I've been MAIA-B in 19-Aug-2016, a small black hole in Maia system(the alloy one). 24.2 km is the closest distance you can get, then "BODY EXCLUSION ZONE HIT" will pop up in INFO window if u trying to get further, yea its a warning from the GAME, not your in-game ship system lmao. And at this very position, ur ship is like frozen in the middle of the air, you can go anywhere except move forward, despite your thruster is at full speed toward.
thanks for doing it for me so I don't have to be disappointed I want some interstellar shit to happen, looking through the walls I see my first sidewinder, docked at LHS 3447. very wholesome moment
It'd be awesome if the devs specifically made sag A black hole a wormhole that takes you back to fed space. As a little interstellar Easter egg kinda thing.
holy ship!!!! i have nevr seen one of these vids coz i kinda wanted to save all the novelty and wonder for when i visit it myself but i couldn't resist.... you're crazy but i guess i would have eventually wanted to know.... It is VERY dissapointing to find out Frontier didn't make black holes suck u in!!!!!!!!!!!!! 🤬 WTaF?!
Many people think that getting you to the event horizon would tear you apart / ending with black hole eating you or the remains of you.. that's really not the case.. black holes do not 'eat' things, things just seemingly "stop" at the horizon event and that's just it..😅 that is how BHs work
The PHYSICS of falling into a black hole and its effect afterwards has not been developed yet. Only the 'possibility' has been explored theoretically. It is yet to be proved.
Saying "it is yet to be proved" is a technicality. Everything math-wise checks out, and for those sorts of things we're 99.999% sure that it's true. But since we can't physically go to a black hole, it's labelled "unproven"
@@TheHipOneMusic Hey I like your comment. Just want to request you to check out Black Hole documentary on Netflix where the Nasa scientists and various others are accepting the fact that 'they do not understand the black holes fully yet and specially what actually happens when you go around it or fall into it.' They said 'only mathematically its proven yet, but black holes can't just be studied purely using maths or physics because everytime the equation says something else and the observation through the telescopes shows something else.' So how BH will affect you when you are around them is just based on the assumptions made by scientists using maths, of which even they are not fully confident about. I am not saying they are wrong or right, its just that the assumptions are not certain and cannot be assumed as its true. Please do check the documentaties!
if anything you should have accelerated going towards the black hole, I think its just lazy development really, would be cool if black holes were a threat of some kind
Frame Shift Drive (aka hyperdrive) can't properly work in presence of a big mass. Thats why he's lost all the speed and got kicked out to normal space. Its kind of possible to use thrusters to get closer but will take infinite amound of time in both game and real world. And crushing on a star is also not very easy to make bacause it shoots matter in all sides pushing everything away. you gey burned faster.
Dumb mechanics. You should have been speeding up the closer you got. At least, if not being dragged into the 'hole' at least sling-shotted around it at some ungodly speed. I once was acting crazy in a system just doing loops and rolls and was stopped, dead stop, at the OC of a planet. Scariest thing that happened until I met up with the local black hole to Sol. And those ever frightening Quasars!
I've been looking at these Black Hole videos for Elite Dangerous, and it slipped my mind that Sagittarius A was the black hole *at the center of the Galaxy.* As soon as you dropped out of hyperspace, I paused, held my phone back, sat back in my seat, and went "Oooooo-ho-ho-hooo nooooo!"
Couldn't you technically just head towards the black hole and start flying there with just thrusters (turning off the FA in case you run out of fuel)? I mean it might take almost a year (300 days or so at 460m/s at a distance of 40 ls but technically possible.
For a space simulator, Elite Dangerous isn’t that realistic when it comes to interacting with celestial bodies. Frontier needs to update the game for real time damage on what really happens when you get to close to a black hole or gas giants. But oh well.
1:18 thats... not how supercruise works... that's not how any warp bubble drive works All your speed is based on a spacetime bubble half-moving, which in ED gets disrupted by gravity and slows down because of it. "Building up speed" with a warp bubble doesn't work, you'll be slowed down depending on how close you are from any gravity well. Which is what happened, at 2:39 you went far enough from the gravitational Soi (sphere of influence) of Source 2 (is that its real name?) to reach 480c but went close enough to the gravitational Soi of Sagittarius that you slowed down, completely removing your built-up acceleration. Point is, with supercruise you don't build up speed to crash into a black hole.
Frame Shift Drives work via some really fuckin weird spacetime distortion, you're effectively concentrating the distortion of your ship's mass in front of you and creating a sort of spacetime bubble around yourself, so stellar bodies, seeing as gravity wells are just spacetime distortions, lower the FSD's effectiveness because your distortion is being distorted itself by the gravity well, hence why you slow down.
The fact that Elite never lets you crash into stars by mistake is the stupidest, most counter intuitive, immersion breaking thing in this game. It literally drops my rating for it from 10/10 to 8/10.
I mean it makes sense in universe. The Pilot's Federation (essentially a giant space union with scary amounts of political power that controls many parts about how spacecraft are designed) doesn't want any old schmuck to have a weapon that can travel at 100c.
Come on, they did it in Interstellar with nothing but math. I'm sure they could do it here too. Although it would probably mess with the PC to do all the calculations.
Sagittarius A is a supermassive black hole, its gravitation pull holds the milky way together. The overwhelming size and power seems to be missed in this game.
Its gravity does not hold our galaxy together, this is a misconception. It acts nothing like the sun in our solar system. While it is certainly extremely massive, it is nowhere near massive enough to affect us in the slightest, we're way too far away. Rather what holds our galaxy together is the mass of every single star and body in it pulling on each other. Sagittarius A* simply formed in the middle of it all
Wormholes and black holes are completely different things. A wormhole works by making a hole in space and keeping the space from collapsing in on itself by using anti-gravity. A black hole is just a really fucking heavy shit. (or at least, thats how i remember it...) watch this if youre really interested in wormholes : th-cam.com/video/9P6rdqiybaw/w-d-xo.html
re - 2:20 You said that you weren't targetting Sag-A so that the nav. comp. wouldn't auto-slow your ship down. Maaaaaan I used to do the EXACT same thing back in Elite: Frontier!!!! There were some missions you could do that had a time limit on them. The way Hyperdrives worked back then was, it would take one week for a ship to jump to the maximum limit of its drive. On top of that, you'd often reach a system 30 or 40 AU from the core planets, which would take another 4 or 5 days to reach. In this way, you could accurately work out how long it would take you to reach this planet in that star system, etc... Anyway, sometimes you'd get 4 or 5, maybe even 7 or 8 Military missions, all to the same destination!!!! So you really WANTED to accept them all, even though there was only 10 days left until the missions started 'expiring.' In situations like that, I'd jump into the system, set my nav.comp. to take me to the target planet and then use the 'speed-up-time' function to maximum. Once the nav.comp started decelerating, I would either turn the nav.comp off, or I'd UN target the planet, so that we'd continue speeding towards the planet at HIGHLY dangerous speeds!!! Once we got to within about 20 AU, I'd turn the nav.comp back on, target the planet again and engage the autopilot, then time-skip to maximum again. Half an hour later the autopilot would disengage, as I'd be in orbit above the planet I needed to reach. In this way, I was able to complete a LOT of missions in impossibly short time spans. Missions that would (in a normal military craft) take three weeks to complete, could be finished in 10 days in my souped-up Viper Defence Craft!!
@@SpaceHero-Elite Yeah, I saw. Incidentally, I think that the thing I just explained was an exploit. You see, if you used the autopilot and then set the time-skip to maximum, it was IMPOSSIBLE to crash. On top of that, the ship would magically be able to speed up or slow down, WELL beyond the capabilities of its engines, when you did this trick. I once tried landing on a spaceport on a planet with INSANELY high gravity. I thought I could control the descent, but it became impossible and I was soon out of control and being pulled at a sickening pace of acceleration towards the alarmingly approaching planet surface. When I was at about 75,000 feet, I paused the game, targetted a space station orbiting another planet in the same system, engaged autopilot and then hit maximum time-skip. Two seconds later (one hour in-game) I was idling about 7 km from the space station. I was even- apparently- able to fly directly through the centre of several stars while using this trick...
Official reason why you can't crash: "All ships have safety measure to prevent them from crashing onto stellar bodies at superluminal speeds." Actual reason: Too difficult to model.
That's cool! It never occurred to me that a black hole might be outlined by the lensing of stars behind it. I kinda feel like that's something I should have realized sooner.
I had "No Time for Caution" playing in the background, and the timing of the ending coincided with the crashing into the barrier. If you want to try, start the music at 0:50.
@@SpaceHero-Elite On the bright side, this bit o' nostalgia has caused me to dust off my Captain's Hat and to climb back into the cockpit of my Asp Explorer after having been away for a few years...
Is this how a black hole would be or would it be more like how they did the one in the movie Interstella ? . Better that ,than a big space sphincter ( imo )
The gravitational effect of it is correct, i. bending light and space. We have no idea how it actually looks, so it could be correct. Overall, if you want to know what a scientifically accurate bh looks like, look up the image they made of one last year.
@@SpaceHero-Elite Oh wow, that sucks!! I would've at least expected an overheat or something!! I read through the comments but didn't know if there was an update or not...
Made it to Sagittarius A* myself, few hours ago. Dropped in 65 ls from exclusion zone and still can hear these sounds while making screenshots. Now would visit Great Annihilator and then head back home
Thanks for the comment. The great annihilator is one of my fav black holes. The lensing on the main black hole in that system I thought was better than sag a cause you can get closer to it.
@@partylizard8343 Yeah! I'm like tell me what it looks like at least from the system that it's in, and from millions of miles away. Sure telescopes can help to a lesser degree, though. Like looking at two objects so far out they both look like dots, but once you are close enough they take real shape and form; a Semi-truck and an Airplane. Tell me what color a bright red car is from 10,000 miles away. Actually tell me its a car and not a small truck, from that distance. The coronavirus is right here, and they don't know anything about it much. GOD First!!! GOD Bless!!! Love All!!!
@@xxGjbbyxx Dude, why do people have to bring God into everything? Can't you just believe in your sky daddy without inflicting it on other people? Neither Coronavirus nor religion has anything to do with what the conversation is about.
@@dec5847 Why do others have to deal with what others do? Why do we have to deal with what others do or say? You called me dude for instance. Why do people that say that always have to say that? Or these comercials and ads all over the place trying to get me to want this or like that? Thanks for being polite. And I'm not pushing anything on anyone. I don't want to push something onto someone else. NOT my (What you call Him),... My GOD's way. When I post it, its like my giving Him what I owe Him (He gave me Life and so more much more), and Love to all of You! Plus I'm a Christian (Christ - ian), trying to live and Love in this World Like Yeshua, demonstrated. GOD First!!! GOD Bless!!! Love All!!!
@@xxGjbbyxx Except I don't always say that. It's a very mild occurrence for me and is far less infuriating than flamboyantly exclaiming that God will love us all. He hasn't loved anybody so far, or we wouldn't have so many terrible things in the world. I'm sorry to say, but the Biblical God CANNOT exist. He is either not all powerful, not all good, or doesn't exist at all.
Lmaoooo this was the most dramatic "nothing" I've ever seen
😂😂😂
🤔
Oh you should've been there back in the 80's and the opening of Al Capone's vault.
Lol it's funny how nobody asked your opinion but you still gave one. That was actually pretty epic.
@@cloudseven8258 Lol it's funny how someone doesn't need to be asked to give his opinion to do so, almost like free speech is a thing
can't believe after all this time they still haven't improved the look and feel of the black holes in the game. Especially sagittarius a* its not as calm there...
They would probably have to model some sort of accretion disks into them and that'd be pretty tricky. Either that or they don't want to devote the dev time to doing so.
still looks impressive, but just not as impressive as Gargantua. but yeah from what ive seen black holes are highly unfinished, which is stopping me from buying this game yet. pulsars look fucking sweet tho
its because you cant see the ship entering the black hole because light does not bounce off the ship once it crosses the event horison because light cant escape the gravitational pull of a black hole once it passes through the event horizon
what is?
@@phuturephunk Sag A* is to large to have an accretion disc.
Spent a good part of my initial time in the game paranoid about crashing into celestial bodies, but it turns out the game just doesn't let you. Sort of ruins the tension.
You can, if it happens during an interdiction.
@@tabularasa0606 To be fair, that's more just a slight oversight due to the way interdictions work. Whenever you are interdicted, you retain the speed of however fast you were going upon interdiction, so if you fly into a body at a fast enough speed, you can be outside the emergency drop zone on one frame, and have travelled fast and far enough on the next frame to be inside the object and for the game to recognize you're within the emergency exclusion drop-out zone. Usually at that point the game realizes somethings gone fucky, you're in a place you're not supposed to be, and it will boot you to menu and have you start back up in a proper area.
@@handofcreation0
But still possible, at least it was a few months ago. It happened to me once. Haven't been able to repeat it though.
Well here’s the thing. In physics any sufficiently fast enough particle will just go through an object without disturbing it. For barionic matter it would be a speed of more than Lightspeed. Since faster than light travel is possible in the game, you technically would just phase though an object if you were to crash into it. So neither you nor the object could experience any disturbances
@@theakiwar9118 Wait what? How did they destroy the Dreadnaught in The Last Jedi by ramming it in light speed if they would phase through it?
2:31 that radar realy likes the beat
Plot twist: Your mind actually started visualizing like nothing happened when in reality the ship and your body got torn apart and your mind and consciousness it's only what's left from you.
did you watch the movie interstellar? xD
Oh daaamn
at least you'd get to see the end of the universe before you die because time slows down for you.
@@Vilverna thats not how time dilation works....
Or maybe you were just uploaded to the nexus
Space Hero: One Question...
Everyone Else: You traveled a long way to commit suicide.
If it were possible irl that would definitely be how I'd want to go out.
@@darkener3210 you became one with matter........
@@arkvsi8142 I believe you would be confusing me with my brother, Anti Matter.
@Probability Reality well there's string theory
@Probability Reality and time distortion
Elite Dangerous: can't fly into stars
Outer Wilds: you're going to fly into the sun dozens of times
Landing on the sun station was genuinely one of the most intense and rewarding experiences I've had with a video game. Outer Wilds generally is just my favourite game of all time :)
Btw if you've seen Interstellar you'll like this
th-cam.com/video/d9cUw-f1kUo/w-d-xo.html
Outer Worlds: flying into the sun because your character is too stupid
hey i noticed your pfp. it's a violation of the geneva convention
@@PoppyGaming43 Join me in war crimes
I wish they would update the visuals for black holes. Specially this monster.
Edit: I understand some of you feel this is realistic but it would be nice for some creative licence here. It would just be nice to have a planet or some other stars in system to give a sense of awe and scale.
they should do it in the new game, where the whacky stuff that they say happens in real black holes on like Cosmos and shi where you can like see yourself in front of you, is actually in game.
Update the visuals for something that technically cant be seen with tge naked eye? The visual for sag A* is the milky way itself.
@@thedarkness125 What the fuck are you talking about? They should really update black hole visuals...
@@jonnyj. the only thing you could do is add accretion disks, because since no one can actually see black holes there's no way to know what they SHOULD look like. So in reality y'all are just upset they're not visually interesting like interstellars gargantua. Frankly, I say leave them as they are, theres nothing wrong with how they're portrayed, as any opinion on what they should look like is just that an opinion.
@@thedarkness125 they're practically impossible to spot with telescopes, but not invisible. If you were near a black hole you could see it, not just the lensing effects.
Black hole: exists
humans: let's crash into it!
I mean, there is the possibility of time or dimensional travel so, worth the risk
@@seiyaryuuguuin2332 And spaghettification
@@XxKidnoffxX not necessarily
@@ENGCSHemangVerma Every object with big big mass like a black hole will create spaghettification on your body.
But I'm open to learn something new...
Humans logic, let's go in place were we will be dead, and there is no exit
Sagittarius A* the very mother and final destination of our planets and they make it this lame? The hell?
Yeah I know. Should at least have an accretion disk
Should at least be actually black
@@WofWca it is black, hes just too far away to see the actual event horizon
@@MrMegaMetroid Not an expert, but judging by the way gravitational lensing effects look, it must take a significant fraction of the screen.
@@WofWca It really was far away but it's impossible to actually make a black hole bc we don't know almost anything about them
But it's unbelievable how close you can get in Elite... the black hole is in the middle of the galaxy effecting it and.. we can get to a few Ls and nothing happens to a small object like a space ship..
Despite the fact one cannot get sucked into it, despite the fact that it just drops you out of supercruise, despite the fact that there is no real danger.... these things STILL scare the ever loving out of me!!!
Agreed! I would love fd to do some accretion disk effects tho.
they really should fix this
Did...did you just censor yourself?
stating all these facts science is just best guesss
@@Wiiguyface342 TH-cam deprioritises comments with vulgarisms in them so that was a smart move
It’s a brave person who tries to crash their ship after such a grind to get there.
Black Holes: exists
This guy: Hi my name is Space Hero and welcome to Jackass
I said this while I was watching it xD
*_"One burning question stands out in my head..._*
*_...Will it blend?"_*
A complete absence of smoke! Don't breathe this!
man u comment made my day, dont hear about this show along time
Yes, it'll blend you into spaghetti
The most "You Are Not Allowed" moment in space gaming.
and I love it
Title: crashing into Sagittarius a*
Video: doesn't crash into Sagittarius a*
Clickbait, UnU
this
Disliked it because of it.
Imagine getting sucked into it and get sent to the unknown.
Except the game characters get sent into our world
Imagine if it was basically a zone line/server switch, and you popped out the other side into an empty universe with different physics...
Tip: Turn off flight assist and nothing will brake ur ship:)
when you crash into something by chance, you lose 3% hull and 10% powerplant. When you do it intentionally at the highest speed possible, towards the heaviest object possible, no damage is noticed.
This game is something else..
**gets hit by a small, slow rock pebble while docked**
“SHIELDS OFFLINE”
“HULL INTEGRITY CRITICAL”
“LIFE SUPPORT MALFUNCTION”
-the elite dangerous experience
@@kevinflaherty1 Technically, jumping into a large black hole is not as destructive as a small one, you'd die either way but recent studies shows you could possibly cross the event horizon of Sagittarius A without dying, you'd just die further in.
except he didn't ram it, the emergency stop prevented him from getting close enough to do any real damage
Although I still would've it better if they didn't stop you and your ship just blew up or got torn apart
I mean, that is actually realistic, going towards something at over the speed of light (which you can do in this game obviously) can have a phenomenon know as, I think it was quantum phasing? Something like that, basically all the matter passes in between the gaps of everything and you phase through the object you just crashed into at 40 bajillion m/s
I mean, this makes sense with how supercruise works. Basically the closer you are to mass the slower you go. And since this is a super massive Blackford you can't go all that fast by the time you hit the exclusion zone, compared to a small planet that doesn't show you down as much.
Fun Fact: Sagittarius A has a Schwarzchild Radius of about 200Ls.
thats alot of matter
According to this calc, it's 40 Ls (Sag A* is 4 million sun masses, right?)
www.vttoth.com/CMS/physics-notes/311-hawking-radiation-calculator
200 times the distance from earth to the moon, pretty small
Yeah, it's about 40Ls, not 200, for SgrA*. The black hole at the center of M81 is much bigger -- about 700Ls.
@@watsisname all these calculations are for the classica relativistic limit of speed of light, but he is traveling into it ~17c, therefore the classical event horizon calculations cannot be used, he would have to slow down c.
soon as he got to the black hole i was waiting for the "we'll be right back" photo to pop up with the music😂😂😂
Well that was anticlimatic 😂
How did they not implement such an obviously needed gameplay smh
To keep us off the planets.
This is in the running for the most glorious letdown ever. Emphasis on glorious.
I'll take that as a compliment! :)
This is the video which brought me to Elite... Now several hundred hours of gameplay later, Im first to Discover multiple hundreds, probably even thousands of Systems in this Amazing game. Seriously, Thanks you!
Hey thanks for the feedback! Awesome to know it inspired you! Still playing myself. Despite its flaws there's still nothing else like it :)
At the current pace the whole community is exploring new systems, it will take the whole player base about 150000 years to explore the whole milky way
You should of made the screen go black just before you got too close.
Then have it fade into the skyrim "you're finally awake" cutscene
Lol yeah that would have been funny!
thats probably the worst and unimpressive black hole i see in all recent game. you can't even take damage from it is a new low i guess.
You, an aspiring spacefaerer with a dream. To see the center of our galaxy up close. To see all highly concentrated stars cluster in the sky while the massive, imposing black hole in the center tears up the lights, pulling and stretching the very tissue of spacetime. You feel an urge for discovery. You want to get close, to fall in the immense power by forces of unnimaginable magnitude. You close in, it is unsettling, but relaxing. You know this is it. And as you get to the point of no return, as your view is covered by nothing but stray photons lost in the abyss, you black out.
Slowly, you hear birds, and wind, and the sounds of a carriage, feeling a cold breeze in your skin, you open your eyes and
"Hey you... You're finally awake."
Actually u can get closer, not this one ofc, I've been MAIA-B in 19-Aug-2016, a small black hole in Maia system(the alloy one).
24.2 km is the closest distance you can get, then "BODY EXCLUSION ZONE HIT" will pop up in INFO window if u trying to get further, yea its a warning from the GAME, not your in-game ship system lmao.
And at this very position, ur ship is like frozen in the middle of the air, you can go anywhere except move forward, despite your thruster is at full speed toward.
thanks for doing it for me so I don't have to be disappointed
I want some interstellar shit to happen, looking through the walls I see my first sidewinder, docked at LHS 3447. very wholesome moment
In Elite Dangerous, if it's not landable, you'll not gonna crash. And you know that.
kinda wish the gravitational lensing was more realistic
With the soundtrack playing at the end approaching the black hole I was like, EPIC....FAIL. D A M N
It'd be awesome if the devs specifically made sag A black hole a wormhole that takes you back to fed space. As a little interstellar Easter egg kinda thing.
yoooo im dangerous
you shouldn't play near me
Its 99k LS not LY. a 99k LY jump would be quite impressive lmao
holy ship!!!! i have nevr seen one of these vids coz i kinda wanted to save all the novelty and wonder for when i visit it myself but i couldn't resist....
you're crazy but i guess i would have eventually wanted to know....
It is VERY dissapointing to find out Frontier didn't make black holes suck u in!!!!!!!!!!!!! 🤬 WTaF?!
You can die in soo many ways in Elite Dangerous but the game does not want you to crash into celestial objects especially with hyperspeed.
Should've kept going, if you get too close, it'll burn you up like a star does. I took damage trying to escape it
That's it? A bit disappointing...
The way Elite dangerous handles FTL travel made that "running start" hilariously pointless
You used LY when you meant LS (light seconds).
Yeah, this kept giving me mental whiplash.
Many people think that getting you to the event horizon would tear you apart / ending with black hole eating you or the remains of you.. that's really not the case.. black holes do not 'eat' things, things just seemingly "stop" at the horizon event and that's just it..😅 that is how BHs work
The PHYSICS of falling into a black hole and its effect afterwards has not been developed yet. Only the 'possibility' has been explored theoretically. It is yet to be proved.
We know the physics outside the event horizon extremely well. It's inside the event horizon as you approach the singularity we're iffy on
Saying "it is yet to be proved" is a technicality. Everything math-wise checks out, and for those sorts of things we're 99.999% sure that it's true. But since we can't physically go to a black hole, it's labelled "unproven"
@@TheHipOneMusic Hey I like your comment. Just want to request you to check out Black Hole documentary on Netflix where the Nasa scientists and various others are accepting the fact that 'they do not understand the black holes fully yet and specially what actually happens when you go around it or fall into it.' They said 'only mathematically its proven yet, but black holes can't just be studied purely using maths or physics because everytime the equation says something else and the observation through the telescopes shows something else.'
So how BH will affect you when you are around them is just based on the assumptions made by scientists using maths, of which even they are not fully confident about. I am not saying they are wrong or right, its just that the assumptions are not certain and cannot be assumed as its true.
Please do check the documentaties!
Well the distance of it was accurate at least. It's size and destructive/creative power was not
if anything you should have accelerated going towards the black hole, I think its just lazy development really, would be cool if black holes were a threat of some kind
Frame Shift Drive (aka hyperdrive) can't properly work in presence of a big mass. Thats why he's lost all the speed and got kicked out to normal space. Its kind of possible to use thrusters to get closer but will take infinite amound of time in both game and real world. And crushing on a star is also not very easy to make bacause it shoots matter in all sides pushing everything away. you gey burned faster.
Dumb mechanics. You should have been speeding up the closer you got. At least, if not being dragged into the 'hole' at least sling-shotted around it at some ungodly speed. I once was acting crazy in a system just doing loops and rolls and was stopped, dead stop, at the OC of a planet. Scariest thing that happened until I met up with the local black hole to Sol. And those ever frightening Quasars!
this reminds me of when i just started learning about space... great times
I've been looking at these Black Hole videos for Elite Dangerous, and it slipped my mind that Sagittarius A was the black hole *at the center of the Galaxy.*
As soon as you dropped out of hyperspace, I paused, held my phone back, sat back in my seat, and went "Oooooo-ho-ho-hooo nooooo!"
Hey, thanks for the comment. :)
All black holes are the center of galaxies
@@ManiacKnight This is not true
@@jeffrey4325 Wrong by a longshot
All galaxies do have super massive black holes at the center of them but not all black holes sit in the center of galaxies
1:30 100K Ls* from Sagittarius A Star.
Nah it’s just a big exclusion zone. Suck. They should let you go through and pop out in Andromeda.
Couldn't you technically just head towards the black hole and start flying there with just thrusters (turning off the FA in case you run out of fuel)? I mean it might take almost a year (300 days or so at 460m/s at a distance of 40 ls but technically possible.
no unfortunatley you hit a barrier. your ship looks like its still flying, but it doesnt get any closer
Even if the answer is NO, the experiment was worth it... :-) Thank you for nice video... :-) 👍
As you approach it you gain more speed and then you acceleration increases to light speed then time warp can accrue
Am I the only one who gets hella anxiety when I fly next to a black hole? Or speeding past a planet in super cruise and almost hitting it.
yeah man, even knowing it does basically nothing. it's funny how scary elite can be to me even if it's just planets
if you manage to go inside, you can find a bookshelf and there is always Hans Zimmer music playing in the background
Morale of the story : Exclusion zones still exist
Something about Elite Dangerous in specific instills a primal fear of the open space in me. This is harder to watch than any horror content.
For a space simulator, Elite Dangerous isn’t that realistic when it comes to interacting with celestial bodies. Frontier needs to update the game for real time damage on what really happens when you get to close to a black hole or gas giants. But oh well.
Thats very clearly. 99,000 light seconds not light years.
So the the only thing in the universe that makes it impossible to escape from, is unable to be entered. Bit lame.
I wonder if you could do it in the new supercruise overcharge
1:18 thats... not how supercruise works... that's not how any warp bubble drive works
All your speed is based on a spacetime bubble half-moving, which in ED gets disrupted by gravity and slows down because of it. "Building up speed" with a warp bubble doesn't work, you'll be slowed down depending on how close you are from any gravity well.
Which is what happened, at 2:39 you went far enough from the gravitational Soi (sphere of influence) of Source 2 (is that its real name?) to reach 480c but went close enough to the gravitational Soi of Sagittarius that you slowed down, completely removing your built-up acceleration.
Point is, with supercruise you don't build up speed to crash into a black hole.
I still don't really understand why you slow down as you get close to them. You think you would go faster?
Frame Shift Drives work via some really fuckin weird spacetime distortion, you're effectively concentrating the distortion of your ship's mass in front of you and creating a sort of spacetime bubble around yourself, so stellar bodies, seeing as gravity wells are just spacetime distortions, lower the FSD's effectiveness because your distortion is being distorted itself by the gravity well, hence why you slow down.
TLDR for the above comment;
your FSD creates a form of wormhole, and celestial bodies influences the wormhole, making it less effective.
@@stormblade2510 Not even that bad to read.
Andrew Hall
I know, was just doing TLDR for those who don’t want to read as much
@@stormblade2510 Lol alright
Black holes in this game are extremely underwhelming
i think u could just disable the system and then do it lol
or crash into it on normal speed
The fact that Elite never lets you crash into stars by mistake is the stupidest, most counter intuitive, immersion breaking thing in this game. It literally drops my rating for it from 10/10 to 8/10.
I mean it makes sense in universe. The Pilot's Federation (essentially a giant space union with scary amounts of political power that controls many parts about how spacecraft are designed) doesn't want any old schmuck to have a weapon that can travel at 100c.
Come on, they did it in Interstellar with nothing but math.
I'm sure they could do it here too.
Although it would probably mess with the PC to do all the calculations.
Most of these calculations would be server side.
@@dylanharding5720 Actually you're right.
Same way how Microsoft handles most of the environment in Flight Simulator on their cloud platform.
Sagittarius A is a supermassive black hole, its gravitation pull holds the milky way together. The overwhelming size and power seems to be missed in this game.
Its gravity does not hold our galaxy together, this is a misconception. It acts nothing like the sun in our solar system. While it is certainly extremely massive, it is nowhere near massive enough to affect us in the slightest, we're way too far away.
Rather what holds our galaxy together is the mass of every single star and body in it pulling on each other. Sagittarius A* simply formed in the middle of it all
It doesn't hold the milky way together. Dark matter does.
I was expecting you to end up in Skyrim
Watching this and thinking of the Expanse daredevil crash scene. Too bad it didn’t look like that. GJ CMDR. o7
would be cool if they added this kind of stuff to SC
I was so paranoid of crashing into bodies, especially getting close to a black hole, but since the game just doesn't let you it kinda ruined it for me
A little clickbaity but still a great video!
I really hope the devs save this one for wormhole travels to Andromeda or something like that....
Wormholes and black holes are completely different things. A wormhole works by making a hole in space and keeping the space from collapsing in on itself by using anti-gravity. A black hole is just a really fucking heavy shit. (or at least, thats how i remember it...) watch this if youre really interested in wormholes :
th-cam.com/video/9P6rdqiybaw/w-d-xo.html
@@Orome96 It's a game...
re - 2:20
You said that you weren't targetting Sag-A so that the nav. comp. wouldn't auto-slow your ship down.
Maaaaaan I used to do the EXACT same thing back in Elite: Frontier!!!!
There were some missions you could do that had a time limit on them. The way Hyperdrives worked back then was, it would take one week for a ship to jump to the maximum limit of its drive. On top of that, you'd often reach a system 30 or 40 AU from the core planets, which would take another 4 or 5 days to reach. In this way, you could accurately work out how long it would take you to reach this planet in that star system, etc...
Anyway, sometimes you'd get 4 or 5, maybe even 7 or 8 Military missions, all to the same destination!!!! So you really WANTED to accept them all, even though there was only 10 days left until the missions started 'expiring.' In situations like that, I'd jump into the system, set my nav.comp. to take me to the target planet and then use the 'speed-up-time' function to maximum. Once the nav.comp started decelerating, I would either turn the nav.comp off, or I'd UN target the planet, so that we'd continue speeding towards the planet at HIGHLY dangerous speeds!!! Once we got to within about 20 AU, I'd turn the nav.comp back on, target the planet again and engage the autopilot, then time-skip to maximum again. Half an hour later the autopilot would disengage, as I'd be in orbit above the planet I needed to reach.
In this way, I was able to complete a LOT of missions in impossibly short time spans. Missions that would (in a normal military craft) take three weeks to complete, could be finished in 10 days in my souped-up Viper Defence Craft!!
Thanks for the comment man, unfortunately it didn't really work as I was hoping in ED :)
@@SpaceHero-Elite
Yeah, I saw.
Incidentally, I think that the thing I just explained was an exploit. You see, if you used the autopilot and then set the time-skip to maximum, it was IMPOSSIBLE to crash. On top of that, the ship would magically be able to speed up or slow down, WELL beyond the capabilities of its engines, when you did this trick.
I once tried landing on a spaceport on a planet with INSANELY high gravity. I thought I could control the descent, but it became impossible and I was soon out of control and being pulled at a sickening pace of acceleration towards the alarmingly approaching planet surface. When I was at about 75,000 feet, I paused the game, targetted a space station orbiting another planet in the same system, engaged autopilot and then hit maximum time-skip. Two seconds later (one hour in-game) I was idling about 7 km from the space station.
I was even- apparently- able to fly directly through the centre of several stars while using this trick...
u messed up and u said LY instead of Ls btw
Maybe you could add the name of this game to the description. You know?
It's Elite Dangerous
I want to buy this game after the Odyssey update. I just hope they fix black holes lol.
You keep calling light seconds "light years".
i was too high for that music brada
i cant belive they made this irl
this was soo interesting thank you
Official reason why you can't crash: "All ships have safety measure to prevent them from crashing onto stellar bodies at superluminal speeds."
Actual reason: Too difficult to model.
now try this with an SCO
honestly i think they should add a secret when (if you could enter the black hole) you end up in the andromeda galaxy
That's cool! It never occurred to me that a black hole might be outlined by the lensing of stars behind it. I kinda feel like that's something I should have realized sooner.
Hmm, how many years have passed when you were close to the black hole? :P
Quite a few! Still playing tho:)
So.. every star can burn you... But black hole is safe.. I rly dont get devs logic...
You can't even get near enough the black hole for it to burn you.
Also, why don't you try making your own game to see how easy it is? :)
@@jyuppiter4540 :D Good argument :D
I had "No Time for Caution" playing in the background, and the timing of the ending coincided with the crashing into the barrier. If you want to try, start the music at 0:50.
Dude, you know those are Light Seconds, not Light Years, right? The Light Second is 300,000 km, whereas the Light Year is about 9.5 trillion km
Yeah man I got it mixed up when I was editing the video years back. Too late to change it now! :)
@@SpaceHero-Elite
On the bright side, this bit o' nostalgia has caused me to dust off my Captain's Hat and to climb back into the cockpit of my Asp Explorer after having been away for a few years...
@@Raz.C haha, that's awesome to know!
That was cool. I’ve been wanting to visit Sagittarius since I began. Thanks for letting me know that it’s totally worth the trip.
Is this how a black hole would be or would it be more like how they did the one in the movie Interstella ? . Better that ,than a big space sphincter ( imo )
The gravitational effect of it is correct, i. bending light and space. We have no idea how it actually looks, so it could be correct. Overall, if you want to know what a scientifically accurate bh looks like, look up the image they made of one last year.
@@jyuppiter4540 www.google.com/search?source=univ&tbm=isch&q=black+hole+image&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjAuc_MuKztAhXCiVwKHQ5HANwQjJkEegQIBhAB&biw=1366&bih=637
Okay, now fly towards it some more without supercruise. See what happens.
You hit an invisible barrier and don't get any closer
@@SpaceHero-Elite Oh wow, that sucks!! I would've at least expected an overheat or something!! I read through the comments but didn't know if there was an update or not...
omg that sucked
i hope the devs look at this and decide to do something about it
Made it to Sagittarius A* myself, few hours ago. Dropped in 65 ls from exclusion zone and still can hear these sounds while making screenshots. Now would visit Great Annihilator and then head back home
Thanks for the comment. The great annihilator is one of my fav black holes. The lensing on the main black hole in that system I thought was better than sag a cause you can get closer to it.
@@SpaceHero-Elite i hope that it won't mess up my ship
@@bobanfrombangladesh you will be safe enough :)
Wtf kind of universe is this where u can't crash into these things?!
The devs should to make them pitch black. With little rings of light around them. Make them feel more black holey
It's weird that even though no one has ever seen a black hole outside of that one picture, people have ideas of what they look like
@@partylizard8343 Yeah! I'm like tell me what it looks like at least from the system that it's in, and from millions of miles away. Sure telescopes can help to a lesser degree, though. Like looking at two objects so far out they both look like dots, but once you are close enough they take real shape and form; a Semi-truck and an Airplane. Tell me what color a bright red car is from 10,000 miles away. Actually tell me its a car and not a small truck, from that distance.
The coronavirus is right here, and they don't know anything about it much.
GOD First!!!
GOD Bless!!!
Love All!!!
@@xxGjbbyxx Dude, why do people have to bring God into everything? Can't you just believe in your sky daddy without inflicting it on other people? Neither Coronavirus nor religion has anything to do with what the conversation is about.
@@dec5847 Why do others have to deal with what others do? Why do we have to deal with what others do or say? You called me dude for instance. Why do people that say that always have to say that? Or these comercials and ads all over the place trying to get me to want this or like that? Thanks for being polite. And I'm not pushing anything on anyone. I don't want to push something onto someone else. NOT my (What you call Him),... My GOD's way. When I post it, its like my giving Him what I owe Him (He gave me Life and so more much more), and Love to all of You!
Plus I'm a Christian (Christ - ian), trying to live and Love in this World Like Yeshua, demonstrated.
GOD First!!!
GOD Bless!!!
Love All!!!
@@xxGjbbyxx Except I don't always say that. It's a very mild occurrence for me and is far less infuriating than flamboyantly exclaiming that God will love us all. He hasn't loved anybody so far, or we wouldn't have so many terrible things in the world. I'm sorry to say, but the Biblical God CANNOT exist. He is either not all powerful, not all good, or doesn't exist at all.
Imagine if it somehow would slingshot you like thousands of light years away... Would be quite a trip.
I think you might be able to go into it, but it would take crazy long to do that.
U can crush into an asteroid but not in a blackhole 🤣
Not very similar are they.