depends on the size of black hole, in bigger ones tidal forces are weaker you can even reach event horizon, but once you reach it - you are never coming back :D
That's a wormhole. A Black Hole is just a shit ton of mass. It wouldn't transport you to anywhere, if you fly into it, you would be immediately obliterated into a trillion pieces, along with all the other asteroids, planets, and stars that were already sucked into it.
trillion is an understatement. from what i read in astronomy magazine, whatever goes into a black hole is essentially atomized. all of atoms in whatever goes in are seperated from eachother, after that- we don't know.
I tried it today and I didn't even drop out of supercruise... I just got a series of impact warnings, then turned my camera and realised space was warping around me and just... Noped the fuck out of there.
Going through a black hole: Well, okay. Ship not getting torn apart: Well, o k a y. Not heating up: Well, *okay.* The ability to see the black hole in the first place: Well.... *O K A Y.*
That's what I thought. If you go anywhere near a neutron star your ship starts overheating, stat. They don't even follow their own rules (I get it that they have to ignore some physics in order for the game to work, FTL travelling and all that…)
@@Fajnymaszglos Yeah, in theory by warping spacetime itself, but I think it was Lawrence Krauss who did the math in his book "The Physics of Star Trek" and the energy required for that would be somewhat the same as all the energy in our galaxy or some other outlandishly big amount. So, not very practical.
@@KilianMuster It makes total sense what you're saying. I mean, we understand a lot about physics, but from a certain perspective, it still seems like little, tho. I wouldn't make judgments on what's possible or not. We are just some animals that have accomplished something thru our senses, and cognition. How can we know for sure? Because if we don't know, then there may be a way, just different from what we think. What do you think about that? And maybe game developers sometimes bend reality to make things more fun :)
@@KilianMuster It all depends on the ship itself and the heat efficiency of said ship. An Anaconda will overheat near a star or neutron star even with the best power plant, a Beluga will overheat just from grazing past a star (or from charging up to simply jump with the worst power plant) but a T-10 can literally sit on a star without even going over 60% heat with the best power plant. The science behind it is supposed to revolve around the Frame Shift Drive, which is based on the Alcubierre Drive, *which* is still only an idea or theory more than reality. The FSD is supposed to create a barrier around the ships that alter the space around it. There was an episode of Futurama where Cubert says "the ship doesn't move through space, it moves space around it" which happens to be the best description of how it works. This is why we're capable of traveling faster than light by 2,001 times. The device is also supposed to somewhat mitigate incoming temperature changes of extreme magnitude.
Should one encounter a black hole and not experience spaghettification, say through some sort of magic ship which would allow you to "observe" objects from within it wouldn't be unthinkable for photons to exist, albeit in whatever form they take under such gravity. Time would slow to a halt, and everything ever passed into the black hole would leave a permanent mark on the event horizon. Again, if one could see into a black hole (depending on your definition of observation) It's not unthinkable to see everything back in time to when the object first appeared millions of years ago...
The definition of a blackhole environment is purely theoretical. As such, this games theory of such an environment is just as feasible. As seen in other parts of this game, relativity theory is both implemented and completely disregarded, as it is in most fictional games. I'm not surprised, however I am a little disappointed with what the developers imagination developed for this
Well, it isn't solely theoretical. We know that black holes cause light to be bent around it, with black at the center from light that is too close to escape the gravitation pull. This causes a distortion of bent light around the edges called lensing. That was what I was getting at. The interior of the hole should be a void of nothing, black. This visual effect is due to the fact that our eyes operate off of reflective light (to be simple about it) and if there is no light coming from the center of the black hole, which there wouldn't be due to the gravitational pull, it would appear black to us because there is no light to take in.
For the life of me I can't remember where it was, but a buddy and I found a black hole at the edge of the galaxy when doing some exploring. As we got close we realized it had not heat damage so we flew towards it only to be bounced back like a rubber ball. No damage to shields or nothing, just bounced right back. It was some dumb fun after a long exploration trip, lol.
0/10 No event horizon, uninstalling the game as I write this. Nah, just kidding. For real though, can't wait for the day Frontier adds accretion discs to Black Holes and binary systems. They're already revamping Neutron Stars and White Dwarfs, so we're getting there~
I am a space nerd so I naturally love this game, and I can't wait until everything is done and realistic according to current science, just so i can go around and look a things. I really want to see them put magnetars in the game, although your ship would be ripped apart if you got it close. And they need to add UY Scuti. An awesome thing to see to would be white holes, but those are just hypothetical at this point.
Bigger ones produce more heat. In case of Sagittarius A* you would melt before dropping out of supercruise for being too close. And I doubt that I could reproduce it now without taking heat damage with my fancy new dirty drives.
Why not? The Asp doesn't overheat that much and with 510 m/s boost I can run away from any NPC. It also makes life easier when landing on planets, searching for barnacles and so on. I also have 6D lvl 5 dirty drives on my exploration Anaconda and it can boost to about 340. I put dirty drives on everything. If it can't work with dirty drives then it's not meant to fly. I have so much fun fuel scooping in my overcharged as hell Corvette :) I turn off SCBs to generate less passive heat and most of the times I make it out without getting to 100% heat.
+CryptykNumidium not this Black Hole... Feel free to travel to it and check it out for yourself. This is just a bug because most Black Holes I've encountered have an invisible barrier that you can't pass and this one doesn't. The amount of heat they emit is corresponded to their size and mass. This particular one is obviously small. There are loads of Black Holes in the sector. Because after I flew through this one I started doing it to other Black Holes and actually found another one that you can fly through quite close by. If you do decide to travel to it and find that things have changed, don't blame me because this video was shot half a year ago and FD might have fixed it or something, but I highly doubt that. I just don't feel like doing 20k LY in one direction again... If someone is travelling to Sagittarius A* then this will be just a couple of thousand LY detour. BTW +Stephen Prevost I do not use any mods or cheats. I am not dumb enough to upload a video of myself cheating together with my CMDR name.
I wish they'd bring this back. I managed to do this by accident just by trying to go inside one to see what would happen, and the wonder and innate terror I felt going inside not knowing what would happen is a moment I won't forget. It makes me sad that it's patched. :/
Yep -- gotta love the Asp Explorer. Probably the best all-around ship with a wide cockpit view and fantastic jump range, especially after you've engineered the FSD. Anytime I try to fly into a black hole, it always keeps me from getting more than a couple kilometers away from it. Seeing the gravitational lensing of the stars behind it IS pretty cool.
Oh, but have you seen one against the nothingness of space beyond the galaxy? I think that's the most terrifying thing I've ever encountered in this game. Not being able see the black hole at all.
Well that was disappointing. They should have HAL come on and say, 'What the fuck are you doing, Dave? That's a black fucking hole, Dave!' And when you get dragged in it should get all weird Dr. Who Tardisy-flying-through-space-effects. And you should come out in some bizarre alternate dimension like Bizarroworld.
+Mine More I'm playing, and I love it. Elite is finished, though, the game has had an official release. Just because it has continual patches, content updates and expansions, doesn't mean it isn't finished, that's a common practice in many games these days, especially MMOs, of which Elite is (sort of).
+Mine More Besides, hating haters merely makes you the hater, a hater hater, therefore you hate yourself. I feel sorry for you... If only there was more love in the world.
100,000 years is nothing on a universal scale. Everyone he knew would be dead but there would still be people. Things would look much different though, that for sure. Our technology would be unrecognizable, and he would be flying around in a 100,000 year old piece of shit space ship while most of humanity would have transcended into another plane of existence, but even then there would still be humans floating around the universe somewhere.
@@maczack87 in ~100000 we would reach or ve close to reaching type 3 civilization, exploiting the energy of the Galaxy. In ED, humanity has reached type 2 civilization. At that point, humanity might not even look like us, they might look completely different from one another, going onto different evolutionary paths depending on which planets some individuals come from. Even Earth's humans will look completely different, as of today, the average man is 10cm taller than the average man from 150 years ago. A planet with 80% of Earth's gravity would have taller , sleeker humans, and a planet with a more powerful gravity would have humans that are shorter, more muscular to support their weight under that kind of gravity.
Until you crash land on a strange yet habitable planet nearby... one inhabited by sentient primate-like creatures angrily riding horses in steel armor and chasing you with nets around a beach till you discover the half-buried Statue of Liberty nearby...
Lennart That's what you need to get the elite trading rank. No, just normal trading. I doubt anyone ever made over a billion trading rares as they are not as profitable as trading normal goods in large quantities.
Pavel Frolov rares used to be unlimited, which allowed players to make billion during the earlier stages of the game. The devs caught on to that. If you have a ship with good jump range such as an ASP, the rares can still be more profitable. I did that for a while but got bored. A billion for elite trading rank, thats going to take a while then. Just got an Anaconda (C grade components) and going for the Elite rank in combat through bounty hunting.
Lennart Oh, well I bought the game maybe a month after the official release so they probably already fixed the rares. Good luck to you on your endeavors, Commander!
Wow that was.. beautiful? When you looked back and saw all those stars my heart legit beat faster. I've been infatuated with black holes since a was a kid
This is only about 100,000 times cooler than no mans sky. hello games really dropped the ball on nms. building a pc now just to play elite dangerous now
After all the hype on No Man's Sky, I was like, "hmmm, I wonder if Elite Dangerous does a better job?" Bought it as soon as I saw that the game was just what was needed!
+PunPun It'll be a few years till SC is finished. Elite Dangerous is a good holdover until then with multi-person crews and ship launched fighters on the Horizon.
yeah ,just wait for a game that will come out in like 5-10 years(if ever ,and in what state?) ,you dont want to be wasting a few bucks on something you could enjoy right?
I am having big fun right now, and am very intrigued by what is going on in the wider Elite universe. It is, as they say, about to kick off big time. For the Alliance!
i remember when people said the same thing "just wait for no mans sky to come out" and look at what a piece of shit that turned out to be elite dangerous is a beautiful well optimized massively underappreciated game.
Ngl, seeing you get closer and closer to the event horizon sent a visceral chill up my spine. As if my body's primal instinct were to say "This is wrong."
black holes give me a form of primal fear difficult to explain. this video triggered a little bit of palm sweaty anxiety in me, especially when it really started warping the light and stars
My God... It's full of stars...! On a serious note, I find it quite sad just how many people in the comments don't understand that this is a glitch and that by the game's normal standards this isn't suppose to happen. To those who haven't actually played this game, the true result of a black hole death in Elite: Dangerous IS disappointing from a physics standpoint, as it doesn't go into the realm of Hawking theories and treats getting close as an overheat, and will cause your ship to explode if exposed for too long. However, I assure you that going near a black hole and getting pulled out of Supercruise by getting too close is almost guaranteed ship destruction unless you've got good reflexes and can see it coming (sometimes the backdrop of space is too dark and the gravity lensing is hard to see). Even if it isn't as accurate or impressive it is still dangerous from a gameplay standpoint and getting too close should generally be avoided if you're playing Exploration.
***** I would say that's pretty accurate. The accretion disk of a black hole would be quite hot, though we don't see it in game. But to truly experience black hole death, would be for you to get closer and your game to slow down exponentially until it appears frozen thus forever ending your time in Elite: Dangerous.
Actually you are not correct. From the point of view of the pilot time would seem to go normally (outside of the black hole would accelerate in time exponentially). You would just fall to the black hole and die due to gravitational forces (that would tear you apart). For an outside viewer indeed you would seem to slow down, but the moment you would go through event horizon (which is possible with very big black holes without dying), you would stop being visible.
It's actually pretty realistic. The thing is that most of the depicitions you see are based on what anyone in physics would call combined electromagnetic spectrum image where things like X-Rays and other high energy emissions are used to create a compelling image. Black Holes emit a lot of X-Rays which are not visible to our eyes naturally. Granted, in 3304, we would have developed bionic eyes which replace at least one of our eyes with an intelligent eye which can see all parts of the electromagnetic spectrum, for the purposes of the game, we have none. And from that viewpoint, the black hole is completely accurate.
This is actually one of the first of a bunch of Elite Dangerous videos I watched back in 2017 before I got Elite Dangerous myself in 2018! Watching this now is actually kinda nostalgic for me.
Who else's wants to see ana exploration update that makes anomalies like black holes actually dangerous and just generally makes exploration more in depth
I clicked on this video expecting you to jump through hyperspace. I was going to comment "You're actually going around it on a 4-dimensional axis because wormholes" or something like that, but no, you just straight-up went through it.
Hope when there's co-op you'd be able to team up with a friend and test the authenticity of this black hole out. One of you would act as an Observer outside the Event Horizon and one would go in to see if your ship gradually slowed down and finally froze near the Horizon. Quite curious about what would happen then.
From an astrophysics point of view, if you can go through a black hole than it is not a black hole but a wormhole. Both are very similar except where as a black hole leads to a singularity (Aka a dead end that will kill you) a wormhole doesn't have a singularity, but something very close. Think of it like a black hole is an icecream cone on the three-dimensional plane. If you go in, it just keeps thinning and thinning until it reaches a point of singularity (it being the tip of the cone.) But a wormhole is more like an hourglass, where once you get near the bottom it starts to widen out again and leads you to an entirely different place on the same three-dimensional plane. My analysis: This isn't a black hole, it's a wormhole that happens to lead nowhere or at least lead to someplace extremely close-by. The two separate rings that it makes (2:40) once you go through supports that it does not in fact have a singularity but a wormhole as the space of nothing in-between the two rings serve as a "pinhole" in the "hourglass". Not only that, but the visual it makes at 3:16 once you go BACK through the wormhole supports that your not going into a singularity (which would 100% kill you, no matter what sci-fi tech you have) but instead your going through that little pinhole opening in the inter-dimensional hourglass of a wormhole. Trippy, right? The only HOLE (get it?) in my logic is that wormholes usually collapse seconds (If not moments) after being made.
+spartan20005 What happens is that when you get close to black holes in this game, they kind of shift your whole view around by bending light so much. So when he goes past the black hole he can see behind him. OR he was already seeing behind him and can see forwards again. Anyways, that view is brighter, probably because it's towards the galaxy. In fact, you can see his view spinning just as he goes past the black hole. This is just my theory but it seems the most logical.
I dunno why, but black holes in space games always scare me. Just the way these gigantic pitch-black holes warp time and space around them, breaking the very laws of physics like it's nothing. Sends chills down my spine. I guess it's just the fear of the unknown. There's no turning back if you get too close, and you have no idea what is happening inside of that darkness that just seems to go on forever as you get ever closer to it.
Behind Orion Nebular is another one without a barrier. Perfect view of visual effects, with nebular and light of galaxy behind the black hole. "ORION DARK REGION ZE-A E6" I think, thats a bug. and sry for my english, it´s not the best
IRL, unfortunately the Extreme X-ray radiation and accretion disc matter would most likely blow you to bits with the fury of a supernova before you even get close to the event horizon. That's at least my hypotheses. But I guess in the chance that didn't happen or if the black hole didn't have that, you'd be ripped to atoms by the gravitational force and disintegrated before ever approaching the event horizon. A common Theory of black holes is that they spit the matter out the other side through a white hole or worm hole, but that matter would be nothing but separate particles and radiation. It's not the terror and mystery inside a black hole that you'd ever have to worry about, because you'd be ripped into nothing but quarks light-years away from eachother before you'd ever get to see what happens.
+Hijiku Brynjar Given that Elite Dangerous is very faithful to RL physics, and that boundary is where our understanding of physics completely breaks, the ability to just fly by-through it is not surprising to me. Also possible is he didn't actually hit the singularity, since it's an impossibly small thing.
OtakuMage fair point, but still if you cross the event horizon (which i have seen happen to friends) you cant really get out, and your ships temp will just increase until poof. apparently at first they programmed black holes to work somewhat similar to a star, emitting heat or radiation (via Hawking radiation) and while you engage frameshift, it says you're moving, but you're actually being pulled closer to the singularity. Your escape vector shows up, but after a certain point, you're just boned.
Hijiku Brynjar Yeah, not a perfect explanation, but other than just exploding your ship at the event horizon, there's not a lot Frontier could do. Depending on if the BH is alone or in a system, they could have an accretion disk on it that gets insanely hot before you get to the event horizon.
I'm afraid that wouldn't be possible for two reasons. First, Sagittarius is hot as hell. And second, all Black Holes in ED are supposed to have these imgur.com/a/KyI6q Body exclusion zones... I was just lucky enough to find one that doesn't have this invisible barrier.
+Pavel Frolov haha yeah I know about the exclusion zones and heat damage and all that. But I must ask. Is this the only black hole without these restrictions? Is it a glitch? Or if any hole is small enough and not too hot, would you be able to travel through it?
Could be a glitch. Only FD knows for sure. However this is far from the only Black Hole you can find of that type. There is one like it at HD 215227. It is only about 1K LY away from the bubble. All I can say is that they are very uncommon. Out of maybe a thousand Black Holes visited in total I have found only two like it. Some were too hot and I couldn't get closer to try to cross them.
the gravity of a blacl hole is so strong, even time bends to it's raw strength. if you were to fall into a black hole, you'd see the beginning and end of time.
The idea of being near an Event Horizon has scared the shit out of me since I was 8.
I've always thought it's cool. Except you know, getting your body ripped apart atom by atom.
Tagger Tag Possibly, but maybe not at all. But supposedly, once you enter the black whole, you get crushed into nothing.
tidal forces would kill You before anything else
depends on the size of black hole, in bigger ones tidal forces are weaker you can even reach event horizon, but once you reach it - you are never coming back :D
Wouldn't radiation kill first?
Where's the book shelves?
STAY BACK!!!!! MUUURRRRPPHHHH!!!!!!
The Professor ouh, that moovie was great
I see what's you did there
DON'T LET ME LEAVE
The Professor lol nice one
Wouldve been cool if they made the ship's systems start glitching out the closer you get to the Black Hole.
yeah, and the ship would stretch
And yourself get torn a part
And the universe ended
FatalFist Actually or we may end up in another part of the universe.... The whole portal theory thing
They make the ship so advanced so it doesn't glitches 😀
The inside texture of a black hole should be tiling pictures of Matt Damon.
Real Matt Damon or Team America Matt Damon?
ZarathustraDK I can't hear his name without thinking of team America and him going "Mayytt dayyymonnn"
@Matthew Caughey
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Feel better now?
I see what's you did there
Nah thats inside your airlock if its busted.
I secretly hoped that the black hole would teleport us to a random location. That would've been fun
it would be great, but you'd better hope you have a fuel scoop if that happens xD
+F U C K Y O U くたばれ Actually that's what a wormhole woul do, in theory inside a black hole you wold be destroyed
That's a wormhole. A Black Hole is just a shit ton of mass. It wouldn't transport you to anywhere, if you fly into it, you would be immediately obliterated into a trillion pieces, along with all the other asteroids, planets, and stars that were already sucked into it.
That would be a wormhole.
trillion is an understatement. from what i read in astronomy magazine, whatever goes into a black hole is essentially atomized. all of atoms in whatever goes in are seperated from eachother, after that- we don't know.
I get shivers when I approach a black hole. Seeing time and space warping infront of me.
First train to NOPEville!
I tried it today and I didn't even drop out of supercruise... I just got a series of impact warnings, then turned my camera and realised space was warping around me and just... Noped the fuck out of there.
all aboard the nope train to fuckthatsville!
Going through a black hole: Well, okay.
Ship not getting torn apart: Well, o k a y.
Not heating up: Well, *okay.*
The ability to see the black hole in the first place: Well.... *O K A Y.*
That's what I thought. If you go anywhere near a neutron star your ship starts overheating, stat. They don't even follow their own rules (I get it that they have to ignore some physics in order for the game to work, FTL travelling and all that…)
@@KilianMuster It is possible to beat the speed of light.
@@Fajnymaszglos Yeah, in theory by warping spacetime itself, but I think it was Lawrence Krauss who did the math in his book "The Physics of Star Trek" and the energy required for that would be somewhat the same as all the energy in our galaxy or some other outlandishly big amount. So, not very practical.
@@KilianMuster It makes total sense what you're saying. I mean, we understand a lot about physics, but from a certain perspective, it still seems like little, tho. I wouldn't make judgments on what's possible or not. We are just some animals that have accomplished something thru our senses, and cognition. How can we know for sure? Because if we don't know, then there may be a way, just different from what we think. What do you think about that? And maybe game developers sometimes bend reality to make things more fun :)
@@KilianMuster It all depends on the ship itself and the heat efficiency of said ship. An Anaconda will overheat near a star or neutron star even with the best power plant, a Beluga will overheat just from grazing past a star (or from charging up to simply jump with the worst power plant) but a T-10 can literally sit on a star without even going over 60% heat with the best power plant.
The science behind it is supposed to revolve around the Frame Shift Drive, which is based on the Alcubierre Drive, *which* is still only an idea or theory more than reality. The FSD is supposed to create a barrier around the ships that alter the space around it. There was an episode of Futurama where Cubert says "the ship doesn't move through space, it moves space around it" which happens to be the best description of how it works. This is why we're capable of traveling faster than light by 2,001 times. The device is also supposed to somewhat mitigate incoming temperature changes of extreme magnitude.
interesting that you can still see light through this black hole
Should one encounter a black hole and not experience spaghettification, say through some sort of magic ship which would allow you to "observe" objects from within it wouldn't be unthinkable for photons to exist, albeit in whatever form they take under such gravity. Time would slow to a halt, and everything ever passed into the black hole would leave a permanent mark on the event horizon.
Again, if one could see into a black hole (depending on your definition of observation) It's not unthinkable to see everything back in time to when the object first appeared millions of years ago...
AIRburst95 Thanks. I too, watch Discovery Channel.
The definition of a blackhole environment is purely theoretical. As such, this games theory of such an environment is just as feasible. As seen in other parts of this game, relativity theory is both implemented and completely disregarded, as it is in most fictional games. I'm not surprised, however I am a little disappointed with what the developers imagination developed for this
Well, it isn't solely theoretical. We know that black holes cause light to be bent around it, with black at the center from light that is too close to escape the gravitation pull. This causes a distortion of bent light around the edges called lensing. That was what I was getting at. The interior of the hole should be a void of nothing, black. This visual effect is due to the fact that our eyes operate off of reflective light (to be simple about it) and if there is no light coming from the center of the black hole, which there wouldn't be due to the gravitational pull, it would appear black to us because there is no light to take in.
Rump Buffalo maybe it's bend around it?
muuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurph!'!!!!!!!!!!!
+Corsair TR DONT LET ME LEAVE MURFPPFFHHHH
'Pushing within the horizon, dipping down beneath it'
What an Amazing movie that was
Only two movie scenes that made me cry - lion king and DONT LET ME LEAVE MURPH
Lol i see what you did there
You didn't find Murph. I'm dissapointed.
MUUUUUUUUUURRRPH!
+AlienBusDriver1 MORSE, MORSE, MORSE...
S! T! A! DASH, DASH!!! Y... Argh... STAYYY!!!
Me too. I was at least hoping we'd hear a snarky sarcastic remark from TARS.
DON'T LET ME LEAVE MURPH
God damn that part gave me major anxiety.Anything black hole related does for me really.
For the life of me I can't remember where it was, but a buddy and I found a black hole at the edge of the galaxy when doing some exploring. As we got close we realized it had not heat damage so we flew towards it only to be bounced back like a rubber ball. No damage to shields or nothing, just bounced right back. It was some dumb fun after a long exploration trip, lol.
you go through black hole in Elite: Dangeous universe and you come out in another universe...No Mans Sky
Literally me to my squadron lol
*Interstellar soundtrack starts playing*
0/10 No event horizon, uninstalling the game as I write this.
Nah, just kidding. For real though, can't wait for the day Frontier adds accretion discs to Black Holes and binary systems. They're already revamping Neutron Stars and White Dwarfs, so we're getting there~
They should also make Neutron Stars and White Dwarfs spin stupidly fast.
I am a space nerd so I naturally love this game, and I can't wait until everything is done and realistic according to current science, just so i can go around and look a things. I really want to see them put magnetars in the game, although your ship would be ripped apart if you got it close. And they need to add UY Scuti. An awesome thing to see to would be white holes, but those are just hypothetical at this point.
Neutron stars in 2.2 are fuckin' badass :D
They are one of my favorite space phenomena
This has an event horizon.
I didn't see no bookshelves
+Junksick
"MUUUUUUUUUUUUURPH!!!!"
Stolen comment?
hmm, i never got too close to one because I figured there would be a sharp uptick in heat due to radiation... interesting to know that's not the case.
Bigger ones produce more heat. In case of Sagittarius A* you would melt before dropping out of supercruise for being too close. And I doubt that I could reproduce it now without taking heat damage with my fancy new dirty drives.
Why not? The Asp doesn't overheat that much and with 510 m/s boost I can run away from any NPC. It also makes life easier when landing on planets, searching for barnacles and so on. I also have 6D lvl 5 dirty drives on my exploration Anaconda and it can boost to about 340. I put dirty drives on everything. If it can't work with dirty drives then it's not meant to fly. I have so much fun fuel scooping in my overcharged as hell Corvette :) I turn off SCBs to generate less passive heat and most of the times I make it out without getting to 100% heat.
+Pavel Frolov isnt it that bigger and more massive blackholes are actualy so cold, that their temperarureis almost at absolute Zero?
Chris Jurco Well they all produce heat in this game. The bigger the hotter.
pretty sure the heat is due to the hawking radiation and not mass
Wow, I expected better.... I was holding my breath hoping the Asp would blow up.... Or something even scarier happens.
***** Eh? What's that?
Amir Ali The guy is obviously running a modded or bugged version, because they do kill you. They kill you hard.
Stephen Prevost
Eh? really? I didn't know that. You got a video to back up your claim dude?
+CryptykNumidium not this Black Hole... Feel free to travel to it and
check it out for yourself. This is just a bug because most Black Holes I've
encountered have an invisible barrier that you can't pass and this one doesn't.
The amount of heat they emit is corresponded to their size and mass. This
particular one is obviously small. There are loads of Black Holes in the
sector. Because after I flew through this one I started doing it to other Black
Holes and actually found another one that you can fly through quite close by. If you do decide
to travel to it and find that things have changed, don't blame me because this
video was shot half a year ago and FD might have fixed it or something, but I
highly doubt that. I just don't feel like doing 20k LY in one direction
again... If someone is travelling to Sagittarius A* then this will be just a
couple of thousand LY detour. BTW +Stephen Prevost I do not use any mods or
cheats. I am not dumb enough to upload a video of myself cheating together with
my CMDR name.
I love how it looks like the black hole is just opening up like its welcoming you
;)
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3:15 holy hell that was trippy
"Dropping too close!"
*"That's part of the plan."*
I wish they'd bring this back. I managed to do this by accident just by trying to go inside one to see what would happen, and the wonder and innate terror I felt going inside not knowing what would happen is a moment I won't forget. It makes me sad that it's patched. :/
2:44 for evil laughter
i dont know why, but seeing him go near the event horizon and something so terribly powerful and beyond my understanding just gives me chills.
"Hey you, you're finally awake."
i was half expecting it
It's amazing how many people in this comment section seem to have a definitive answer for what happens inside a Black Hole...guys c'mon.
Its not what happens inside the black hole people are annoyed about, its everything leading up to that moment AND what happens when he is inside.
Who is here watching this glorious video in late 2024?
re you scared?"
+"No....Not anymore...."
-"Whys that?"
+"Because there's nothing left to be afraid of"
good copy n paste mate
The is nothing in the desert and no man needs nothing
with black holes everything is impossible and everything is possible because we dont know what the hell is going on inside them
- a wise man
Yep -- gotta love the Asp Explorer. Probably the best all-around ship with a wide cockpit view and fantastic jump range, especially after you've engineered the FSD. Anytime I try to fly into a black hole, it always keeps me from getting more than a couple kilometers away from it. Seeing the gravitational lensing of the stars behind it IS pretty cool.
Oh, but have you seen one against the nothingness of space beyond the galaxy? I think that's the most terrifying thing I've ever encountered in this game. Not being able see the black hole at all.
Well that was disappointing. They should have HAL come on and say, 'What the fuck are you doing, Dave? That's a black fucking hole, Dave!' And when you get dragged in it should get all weird Dr. Who Tardisy-flying-through-space-effects. And you should come out in some bizarre alternate dimension like Bizarroworld.
Too many references, I think they'd get sued.
I hate all u haters if u don't like it don't watch it, don't get the game, don't criticise a game that hasn't been finished.
+Mine More I'm playing, and I love it. Elite is finished, though, the game has had an official release. Just because it has continual patches, content updates and expansions, doesn't mean it isn't finished, that's a common practice in many games these days, especially MMOs, of which Elite is (sort of).
+Mine More Besides, hating haters merely makes you the hater, a hater hater, therefore you hate yourself. I feel sorry for you... If only there was more love in the world.
Mine More You're not ACTUALLY saying he's a hater, right?
Go home, physics. You're drunk.
I think in this case that statement holds true
Only theoretically
100,000 years would pass while you fooled around in there. When you came out, everyone would be gone, and you would be alone in the universe.
Oh so that's what it is! And I thought that all my friends got bored and quit the game...
100,000 years is nothing on a universal scale. Everyone he knew would be dead but there would still be people. Things would look much different though, that for sure. Our technology would be unrecognizable, and he would be flying around in a 100,000 year old piece of shit space ship while most of humanity would have transcended into another plane of existence, but even then there would still be humans floating around the universe somewhere.
@@maczack87 in ~100000 we would reach or ve close to reaching type 3 civilization, exploiting the energy of the Galaxy. In ED, humanity has reached type 2 civilization. At that point, humanity might not even look like us, they might look completely different from one another, going onto different evolutionary paths depending on which planets some individuals come from. Even Earth's humans will look completely different, as of today, the average man is 10cm taller than the average man from 150 years ago. A planet with 80% of Earth's gravity would have taller , sleeker humans, and a planet with a more powerful gravity would have humans that are shorter, more muscular to support their weight
under that kind of gravity.
Until you crash land on a strange yet habitable planet nearby... one inhabited by sentient primate-like creatures angrily riding horses in steel armor and chasing you with nets around a beach till you discover the half-buried Statue of Liberty nearby...
It would have been more than 100,000 years
Trading proffit over a billion!? What the...? Rares trade runs before they nerfed them?
Lennart That's what you need to get the elite trading rank. No, just normal trading. I doubt anyone ever made over a billion trading rares as they are not as profitable as trading normal goods in large quantities.
Pavel Frolov rares used to be unlimited, which allowed players to make billion during the earlier stages of the game. The devs caught on to that.
If you have a ship with good jump range such as an ASP, the rares can still be more profitable. I did that for a while but got bored.
A billion for elite trading rank, thats going to take a while then. Just got an Anaconda (C grade components) and going for the Elite rank in combat through bounty hunting.
Lennart Oh, well I bought the game maybe a month after the official release so they probably already fixed the rares. Good luck to you on your endeavors,
Commander!
Pavel Frolov thank you, sir. I might do some more trading aswell.
the creepy music with the discovery scanner was amazing
Lol playing with the scanner sounds make it sound like some sort of creepy background music... and the blackhole itself is already creepy enough :V
"Screw it, I'm pulling an Interstellar"
It's so hard to tell where you even are relative to the black hole, that's just awesome.
Wow that was.. beautiful? When you looked back and saw all those stars my heart legit beat faster. I've been infatuated with black holes since a was a kid
“It’s not possible”
*”No, it’s necessary”*
Woah. That music was so beautiful when it played after going through. Really mind-blowing!
Would be amazing if they introduce the wormhole concept to the game, imagine getting at the other side of the galaxy just in one trip!
This is ED in a nutshell: visuals and audio are top notch, but nothing makes any kind of fucking sense or works the way it's supposed to.
What happens in the black hole stays in the black hole. -Black Hole club owner
first rule of black hole club - you don't talk about the black hole club
@@devilrocket450 Oh right, better keep my hole shut.
"FSD operating beyond possible limit."
"FSD hypercharged"
This is only about 100,000 times cooler than no mans sky. hello games really dropped the ball on nms. building a pc now just to play elite dangerous now
After all the hype on No Man's Sky, I was like, "hmmm, I wonder if Elite Dangerous does a better job?" Bought it as soon as I saw that the game was just what was needed!
+PunPun It'll be a few years till SC is finished. Elite Dangerous is a good holdover until then with multi-person crews and ship launched fighters on the Horizon.
yeah ,just wait for a game that will come out in like 5-10 years(if ever ,and in what state?) ,you dont want to be wasting a few bucks on something you could enjoy right?
I am having big fun right now, and am very intrigued by what is going on in the wider Elite universe. It is, as they say, about to kick off big time. For the Alliance!
i remember when people said the same thing "just wait for no mans sky to come out" and look at what a piece of shit that turned out to be elite dangerous is a beautiful well optimized massively underappreciated game.
All I’m doing is watching this from a smartphone and it’s bloody terrifying-my heart hasn’t stopped pounding.....
0:32 I was like, "Woah.. Woah, WOAH, WOAH, NOPE, NOPE-NOPE-NOPE-NOPE"
Ngl, seeing you get closer and closer to the event horizon sent a visceral chill up my spine. As if my body's primal instinct were to say "This is wrong."
To imagine such a thing exists in real life is absolutely terrifying
reality is stranger than fiction
black holes give me a form of primal fear difficult to explain. this video triggered a little bit of palm sweaty anxiety in me, especially when it really started warping the light and stars
Has anyone tried this with an artifact in the cargo?
What do you expect, the artifact opens up a portal to another dimension?
+Baleur I figure it'd probably shut down the hole and prevent more Nomads from coming through, thus saving the galaxy.
+ColonelSmoke nice to know that i wasn't the only one to play freelancer lols
+ColonelSmoke freelancer
hahahaha "Mr Trent I presume"
This little maneuver is going to cost us 54 years
My God... It's full of stars...!
On a serious note, I find it quite sad just how many people in the comments don't understand that this is a glitch and that by the game's normal standards this isn't suppose to happen.
To those who haven't actually played this game, the true result of a black hole death in Elite: Dangerous IS disappointing from a physics standpoint, as it doesn't go into the realm of Hawking theories and treats getting close as an overheat, and will cause your ship to explode if exposed for too long. However, I assure you that going near a black hole and getting pulled out of Supercruise by getting too close is almost guaranteed ship destruction unless you've got good reflexes and can see it coming (sometimes the backdrop of space is too dark and the gravity lensing is hard to see).
Even if it isn't as accurate or impressive it is still dangerous from a gameplay standpoint and getting too close should generally be avoided if you're playing Exploration.
***** I would say that's pretty accurate. The accretion disk of a black hole would be quite hot, though we don't see it in game. But to truly experience black hole death, would be for you to get closer and your game to slow down exponentially until it appears frozen thus forever ending your time in Elite: Dangerous.
TheSuperintendent
I didn't think about it like that. I guess that would be kind of bad from a "let's not kill our customers' computers" standpoint.
Actually you are not correct. From the point of view of the pilot time would seem to go normally (outside of the black hole would accelerate in time exponentially). You would just fall to the black hole and die due to gravitational forces (that would tear you apart). For an outside viewer indeed you would seem to slow down, but the moment you would go through event horizon (which is possible with very big black holes without dying), you would stop being visible.
It's actually pretty realistic. The thing is that most of the depicitions you see are based on what anyone in physics would call combined electromagnetic spectrum image where things like X-Rays and other high energy emissions are used to create a compelling image. Black Holes emit a lot of X-Rays which are not visible to our eyes naturally. Granted, in 3304, we would have developed bionic eyes which replace at least one of our eyes with an intelligent eye which can see all parts of the electromagnetic spectrum, for the purposes of the game, we have none. And from that viewpoint, the black hole is completely accurate.
Ameya Vaidya How do you actually decide on what would and wouldnt be 1286 years from now?....
This is actually one of the first of a bunch of Elite Dangerous videos I watched back in 2017 before I got Elite Dangerous myself in 2018! Watching this now is actually kinda nostalgic for me.
"My god... its full of stars..."
Oh my god this is terrifying. Why is it terrifying, it's a video game
fear of the unknown
Well, that was anti-climatic. I thought going into a Black Hole would of been more thrilling, even for a video game. 😯😲
It looks like one of those distortion effects you see in YTPs.
I don't know why, but this is very creepy for me.
this combined with the fact I can now dock in under two hours has made elite dangerous much more interesting.
Physics be damned!
Yup
I actually got a little blip of fear the second you crossed the event horizon
i think they did a pretty good job replicating how it would be from a personal perspective of getting this close
Who else's wants to see ana exploration update that makes anomalies like black holes actually dangerous and just generally makes exploration more in depth
I clicked on this video expecting you to jump through hyperspace. I was going to comment "You're actually going around it on a 4-dimensional axis because wormholes" or something like that, but no, you just straight-up went through it.
Moar! It's outlaw to stopping videos like that at such interesting moments! (sorry for my english)
WHAMBOI!
Now that's the name of a real badass blackhole!
By the time he came back. 12 thousands years have passed. And humanity was destroyed by the thargoids.
Hope when there's co-op you'd be able to team up with a friend and test the authenticity of this black hole out. One of you would act as an Observer outside the Event Horizon and one would go in to see if your ship gradually slowed down and finally froze near the Horizon. Quite curious about what would happen then.
+Matthew Clifford Well this is a game, and I highly doubt it would be possible to depict this, or really any other theoretically proposed process.
+Matthew Clifford MISSION ACCEPTED!
Did you do it?
@@benyed1636well? It's been 7 years, did you do it? 😂
That’s some existential terror I’ll never want to relive. Thanks! Cool vid! 😂
great work on that video man! Congrats!
+Robson Vieira thank you!
From an astrophysics point of view, if you can go through a black hole than it is not a black hole but a wormhole. Both are very similar except where as a black hole leads to a singularity (Aka a dead end that will kill you) a wormhole doesn't have a singularity, but something very close.
Think of it like a black hole is an icecream cone on the three-dimensional plane. If you go in, it just keeps thinning and thinning until it reaches a point of singularity (it being the tip of the cone.) But a wormhole is more like an hourglass, where once you get near the bottom it starts to widen out again and leads you to an entirely different place on the same three-dimensional plane.
My analysis: This isn't a black hole, it's a wormhole that happens to lead nowhere or at least lead to someplace extremely close-by. The two separate rings that it makes (2:40) once you go through supports that it does not in fact have a singularity but a wormhole as the space of nothing in-between the two rings serve as a "pinhole" in the "hourglass". Not only that, but the visual it makes at 3:16 once you go BACK through the wormhole supports that your not going into a singularity (which would 100% kill you, no matter what sci-fi tech you have) but instead your going through that little pinhole opening in the inter-dimensional hourglass of a wormhole.
Trippy, right? The only HOLE (get it?) in my logic is that wormholes usually collapse seconds (If not moments) after being made.
+spartan20005 What happens is that when you get close to black holes in this game, they kind of shift your whole view around by bending light so much. So when he goes past the black hole he can see behind him. OR he was already seeing behind him and can see forwards again. Anyways, that view is brighter, probably because it's towards the galaxy. In fact, you can see his view spinning just as he goes past the black hole. This is just my theory but it seems the most logical.
"It's imposible", "no it's nessesary"
It's time to give a new HD version of the Black Hole in Elite Dangerous.
playing interstellar soundtrack while watching this :)
Wow..... I think the black hole was petrifiededly happy that a commander wanted to go inside of him.
Why black holes in this game don't consides with name at all? Its more like Boson stars
I dunno why, but black holes in space games always scare me. Just the way these gigantic pitch-black holes warp time and space around them, breaking the very laws of physics like it's nothing. Sends chills down my spine.
I guess it's just the fear of the unknown. There's no turning back if you get too close, and you have no idea what is happening inside of that darkness that just seems to go on forever as you get ever closer to it.
... OH MY GOD, IT'S FULL OF STARS! ...
I like how the Mass Locked indicator is off. Like "Nope, no problem for FSD. No gravity here to prevent you."
My god, it’s full of stars
"Sir you're heading into a black hole"
"Yes I am aware of this"
"My god he's a fucking lunatic"
oh my god, it's full of stars
I'd love an incredible light show of observing the universe's end followed by spaghettification.
is it bad that I am scared out of my mind whenever I try this?
When black holes in ED more interesting in supercruise than in normal space
Playing scary music with scanner))0
Behind Orion Nebular is another one without a barrier. Perfect view of visual effects, with nebular and light of galaxy behind the black hole.
"ORION DARK REGION ZE-A E6"
I think, thats a bug.
and sry for my english, it´s not the best
aaaw i wanted to see spaghettification
I sincerely appreciate the gravitational lenseing.
Looked like a wormhole to me.
+Extreme Encounter oh goodness me we know it was a glitch but whatever stop going on about it
+Extreme Encounter the people who knew that
I dunno lol well ive had enough of the notifications so im just not gonna comment anymore after this one
Meh sometimes stuff comes through that someone has liked or subscribed or commented to me
IRL, unfortunately the Extreme X-ray radiation and accretion disc matter would most likely blow you to bits with the fury of a supernova before you even get close to the event horizon. That's at least my hypotheses.
But I guess in the chance that didn't happen or if the black hole didn't have that, you'd be ripped to atoms by the gravitational force and disintegrated before ever approaching the event horizon.
A common Theory of black holes is that they spit the matter out the other side through a white hole or worm hole, but that matter would be nothing but separate particles and radiation. It's not the terror and mystery inside a black hole that you'd ever have to worry about, because you'd be ripped into nothing but quarks light-years away from eachother before you'd ever get to see what happens.
looked like pilot was orbiting near the proton sphere the whole time. Did he actually cross the event horizon? and if so WHY IS HE STILL ALIVE!?
hax
+Hijiku Brynjar Given that Elite Dangerous is very faithful to RL physics, and that boundary is where our understanding of physics completely breaks, the ability to just fly by-through it is not surprising to me. Also possible is he didn't actually hit the singularity, since it's an impossibly small thing.
OtakuMage fair point, but still if you cross the event horizon (which i have seen happen to friends) you cant really get out, and your ships temp will just increase until poof.
apparently at first they programmed black holes to work somewhat similar to a star, emitting heat or radiation (via Hawking radiation) and while you engage frameshift, it says you're moving, but you're actually being pulled closer to the singularity. Your escape vector shows up, but after a certain point, you're just boned.
Hijiku Brynjar Yeah, not a perfect explanation, but other than just exploding your ship at the event horizon, there's not a lot Frontier could do. Depending on if the BH is alone or in a system, they could have an accretion disk on it that gets insanely hot before you get to the event horizon.
“Captain we’re interstellar”
“Are we allowed to say that?”
The last part is cool as hell lol
One of these days, we need a space game where black holes actually destroys your ship by ripping it apart.
why is this so scary? ;n;
As soon as you get close enough to the gravity of a black hole; you cant escape its gravity and when you come close enough you'll be pita
That was beautiful... Especially when you went through in debug camera mode. Next challenge, the Great Annihilator!
I'm afraid that wouldn't be possible for two reasons. First, Sagittarius is hot as hell. And second, all Black Holes in ED are supposed to have these imgur.com/a/KyI6q Body exclusion zones... I was just lucky enough to find one that doesn't have this invisible barrier.
+Pavel Frolov haha yeah I know about the exclusion zones and heat damage and all that. But I must ask. Is this the only black hole without these restrictions? Is it a glitch? Or if any hole is small enough and not too hot, would you be able to travel through it?
Could be a glitch. Only FD knows for sure. However this is far from the only Black Hole you can find of that type. There is one like it at HD 215227. It is only about 1K LY away from the bubble. All I can say is that they are very uncommon. Out of maybe a thousand Black Holes visited in total I have found only two like it. Some were too hot and I couldn't get closer to try to cross them.
the gravity of a blacl hole is so strong, even time bends to it's raw strength. if you were to fall into a black hole, you'd see the beginning and end of time.