For everyone that skips the video, the car was in N mode, the car was in boost mode where it gives you 20 seconds of boost. When I write down Sport mode, it means top sport, R mode and N mode for both cars. You can actually hear me say that it was in boost mode. So stop making excuses . Just a clarification:)
No one's making excuses, u should clarify which driving style u are in is more like it. sport is sport.. N Mode is track. I already knew off the bat the TYPE R is a surgical weapon as an N owner.. feels like u didn't use the full potential of the N.. NGS would cause the engine to work in overdrive & loud, I didn't hear a thing.
@@drewthrower4509 I know I just couldn’t afford $300 a tire so I bought some all season pirellis with 200 threadwear thinking they’d competed with ps4s
@@cosmic_gate476 no because I’m not stupid enough to race from light to light which proves nothing other than who has a better launch. Since an automatic AWD takes no skill. Roll race shows who has more power. Don’t tell me your excuse is gonna be “let’s race at a dig” since you can’t keep up?
Wobbly loose mounts, and weak rubber bushings, that are made for comfort will keep any car from doing a good launch and wheel hop its way into second gear.
Honestly, kudos to the type R driver! They are so hard to launch properly and he did it consistently. Admittedly, I’m a HUGE Honda fan so this made me happy as I’ve definitely seen Veloster N’s with the DCT beat type R’s
As a Type R owner I agree. The only thing I disagree with the video is the Type R isn’t stock. Those are not stock wheels and tyres and they will give the Type R an advantage on launch over factory.
@@davemorris6747 You don't know what tires he's running though they could perform less in a launch because I know mine and many other owners aftermarket tires do, the stock tires are very grippy. A lot of type r owners opt for more forgiving all season tires that are softer to give a comfier ride. In my case I run 18 inch pilot sport 4 all seasons. They don't grip as well but the ride comfort is far better and they last longer.
@@supafance92 very true, I run full 20 inch Pilot Sport 4 S’s. On regular streets, the difference wasn’t major but on a prepped surface, the difference was insane. Getting a true 13.6 on a drag strip was impossible for me with the stock tires
Good race! Like you said Sam, typeR driver knows how to drive manual. Regardless typeR was going to be faster but N was right behind. For the money and design of the car, I would probably edge towards the N. TypeR is a awesome car though. Thank you for another exciting race.
Was the driver in the DCT Veloster n even using launch control? And if he was, did he check to see what RPMs the car was set to launch at? Type R shouldn't be gapping a DCT VN when proper tech is used and driven properly
I saw the Veloster N DCT run 13.2 stock, so it makes me think the Type R isn't so stock. Not too many folks spend the money on those wheels and nothing else.
Actually alot of people just get wheels first . Because the stock tires on the 20s are not practical for most roads. They bend too easy on potholes. I have a CTR and all I did so far are wheels and tires . Why is it hard to believe the civic is faster stock? It's 70lbs lighter. Has 30 more hp and 35 more tq .
@@reloadingdontshoot1 if it's an AWD Stinger it will beat the Type R. Haven't seen a side by side before but this drag race was done a couple of times in one of Motor Trend's worlds greatest drag race videos... Stinger and Type R were participants. Stinger beat it, not by a whole lot but a win's a win.
True, however, it still would’ve been close. The driver in the Type R is a beast, not many people can launch that car that well. According to car and driver the Veloster is 4.8 and the Type R is 4.9, I can only imagine the Type R with the 10 speed auto. Amazing cars
I don’t see this as a win. I’m sure if the type r was an automatic it wouldn’ve gap it. For a manual to beat a car like this it’s a win for the type-r . I was expecting the N to win of the line and the type r to catch up but that was not the case great cars
@@leonbaptiste2272 Sam loses in every car he drives...but the Veloster N is a much less expensive car, heavier and 30 horses less...its a definite win for the Hyundai.
@@popsandbangs8858 he did and that guy who owns the type R knows how to drive manual. in my opinion the type R is the better engineered car and the N is worth the money for what you’re getting
Sam, did you use the Veloster's launch mode and/or NGS? Those are both systems that allow the Veloster with DCT to achieve it's fastest times. If they weren't utilized, you handicapped the VN right out of the gate.
Great video thanks! First let me say both are great cars, although I do have a bias as I have a Type R. I thought I saw numbers for the Veloster N and the 0-60mph times were like 4.9 so I was surprised at the outcome! I guessed the DCT tranny would be much faster than the Type R but your video showed otherwise. The Type R typically is a mid 5 second car from what I have seen but a lot comes down to the driver with a manual tranny, props to the Type R driver in this video. The 10 second power boost is a cool feature. Thanks for exploring the different modes, great video!
I miss having a fun hatch with a manual these days. For those of you that can still drive these I am jealous but there is no way I am fitting 2 adults and 3 kids in these, thanks again Sam 🤘👍🤘👍🤘
Impressive for the Type-R knowing that Manual and FWD usually don’t mix off of the line. The Veloster didn’t do too bad considering the power difference. A Civic with a DCT or the 10-Speed from the Type-S would definitely Gap it. Honda Power.
@@jalmonte91 the Veloster N being a DCT, and the Type R a manual...I very highly doubt it. As the Type R takes MORE skill to launch as a manual. The N not so much. So it's STILL Type R FTW. Just because you wanted the N to win...doesn't mean it does in the real world.
$54,500 after taxes, fees, etc. I actually dont even have a problem saying that on the internet, and open myself up to the comments, “youre a fool”, “couldve gotten a corvette/much better car”, “youre whats wrong with the world”, blah, blah, blah. Thats how much I like the car. Kudos for paying less than me. Youre a better man than I. Cheers!
To be fair, I think that veloster could have done so much better. The DCT model comes with full blown launch control. It could have shot off the line better than that I think. Maybe i am wrong, but it didnt look or sound like launch control was used.
If you know the type r driver I'd reccomend doing a video where we can see in first person from his perspective on how he is shifting. I think it would be a super good learning video for us type r owners
Expected a better fight out of the DCT Veloster N honestly. It’s supposed to be faster than the manual version, but it doesnt really look any faster. Id like to see a 6 speed Veloster N vs a DCT Veloster N
All jokes aside, out of all the type r launches, this dude is literally killing it, please have the camera on him when he’s launching and shifting gears please!
No kidding. As a CTR owner I know first hand how hard it is to consistently launch them well without a tune to set torque by gear. Those aftermarket tires were probably a huge help over stock tires. The stock Contis are great for lateral grip, but they really suck for acceleration. I switched over to PS4Ss and was able to turn up my tune 30lb/ft in 1st and 2nd and still stick.
@@shiftautomotive854 why? The Veloster doesn’t stand a chance against the CTR anyway without using Launch Control. He makes it clear that doesn’t use it kn all his races.
Great match up. Type R driver knows how to launch and very fast shifts 👍🏻. Would be cool to see the match up again with the same driver and stock wheels and tires on the Type R.
Pretty much any race with a manual gear box is going to be heavily dependent on the driver. That Type R driver clearly knows his car well. Very impressed by the consistent launches and 1-2 upshifts. With such close HP and torque numbers I would have put my money on the consistency of launch control and a DCT. As someone who has owned multiple manual sports cars and sedans I am happy to have been wrong here. Any time a manual car beats a stick with comparable numbers it HAS to bring a smile to your face - COME ON! :)
The TypeR is no joke. I have a new found admiration for the Veloster N. I always liked them, they are cool to me, very different and I applaud Hyundai for making something so different. BUT it’s the Civic TypeR for me all the way.
@@pope9349 you're just a bigger type r fanboy and it shows lol type r isn't the best car ever made either. BTW a modified N over a type r modified. The N beat it around the track
@@dannygaldamez7616 hahahah if he's a type r fan then I can tell you are a Hyundai fan and goodluck beating a Type R around a track with your so called moded Veloster N🤣
@@dannygaldamez7616 wtf are you talking about? Stock for stock the type r is faster around a track. Go read the head to head reviews. If you want to claim aftermarket is better than a stock type r cool, but what about an aftermarket type r? Veloster n might be 80% of the overall package of the type r but 80% is not better. And you call someone else a fanboy? L O L
No N mode? Was traction control in sport mode or completely off? Noticed you’re comment about it being in N mode even though you say sport mode in the video, should maybe clarify on the video itself, bit confusing. Stock vs Stock the type R takes it every time but not by much.
It's amazing to watch someone finally drag race a Type R and actually knows how to launch the car and he shifts like a beast. Feels like any other drag race with some newbie car review guy, the CTR always grinds something hard and they just bleed speed every shift they do. It's no easy feat to keep up with a DCT shifting the old school way.
I have watched a few videos and I have noticed that when a car has a launch mode, it is sometimes not used. I'm curious as to why that is? Why wasn't there a run with a launch mode enabled? Thank you for doing these videos, I really enjoy them.
I own a Type R. It is very slow off the line (just smokes the tires too much) and doesn't start coming on until middle of 2nd gear, then it out powers most of the other cars in it's class from there to the end of the 1/4. It also has gear crunch into 2nd gear. It has amazing torque in the middle of 4th and 5th gears as well.
I have a VN manual but I’m not bias. But I don’t think he ever hit the button to use the NGS. Being in N mode means nothing if you don’t push the button. IJS. Would it had won with that driver? No .. but a driver like him is 1 in 10,000.
I prefer the veloster looks still. New gen civic hatchback looks promising. Specially when they give it the type r treatment. They seem to be less flashy so I’m hoping the same for the new type r
It's 280 bhp and 289 lbs of TQ! It is also rumored to have a slightly bigger compressor wheel in the turbo to help with the lack of top end the Veloster suffers from. That and 245 PS4'S tires. Not sure how true what is rumored but it is also said that overboost will bring it to 290 bhp and can be used every 45 seconds instead of the 3 minute cool down the Veloster has.
@@BigDunker345 definitely! I hope they do they should. Unfortunately I don't believe the Veloster N will survive much longer after the Elantra N comes out 🥺
@@popsandbangs8858 AWD won't happen as long as Touring Car Racing is a thing. The Veloster N is Hyundai's TCR Ambassador car in North America, where every car in the class is a FWD 2.0
The CTR’s are quick. In a real life situation on the high way or both entering an on ramp, the Hyundai driver would be embarrassed. This was a good example though
@@dannygaldamez7616 “I took the type r from a light to light the other day” Dude was probably wondering why you were racing him, probably because he was in the superior car and was annoyed and wasn’t trying. Slow down on surface streets.
Launch Control is needed in this car. Veloster N also has adjustable shifting, and NGS button activated in N mode. I don't believe ANY of that was done. I have driven many 2017+ civic Type r, and I drove a manual 2021 veloster N, and a dct veloster N. Veloster N dct is the fastest of the 3, then civic type r then veloster 6 spd manual.
Ok well if so then Im not 100% what happened then. Maybe Civic Type R had a few mods? Flashpro? I tell people a couple of my cars are stock, they all have a tune at least lol. Whether it's Hondata, cobb, Sct etc lol. Just my opinion I drove all 3 on same day and it felt to me at least like the 2021 veloster dct was the fastest. Also as per car and driver results. Of course I never did time them / take them to the track.
@@mustangcruisewinetours9702 Car and Driver says Veloster N DCT does 0-60 in 4.8 and The Type R does it in 4.9...Not surprised at all. Type R has a higher trap speed also in the 1/4 mile....
For everyone that skips the video, the car was in N mode, the car was in boost mode where it gives you 20 seconds of boost. When I write down Sport mode, it means top sport, R mode and N mode for both cars. You can actually hear me say that it was in boost mode. So stop making excuses . Just a clarification:)
Pretty soon you're going to hear people say things like the Hyundai would have been faster if you didn't have the map lights on 🤣
No excuses needed, you are the one who didn't mention using NGS ... It's on you for not being clear. I'd expect the R to win this.
@@MrM4rvelous hahahahaha
@@JS-be8ll exactly!
No one's making excuses, u should clarify which driving style u are in is more like it. sport is sport.. N Mode is track. I already knew off the bat the TYPE R is a surgical weapon as an N owner.. feels like u didn't use the full potential of the N.. NGS would cause the engine to work in overdrive & loud, I didn't hear a thing.
There’s literally a launch mode you didn’t even utilize
Many have said it already but that Type R driver is incredible. Amazing.
It’s been said everywhere that the type R is just a hard car to launch and that driver in CTR is just phenomenal at launching it 👏🏼🙌🏼
you can thank the wider tires for that
I went for some all season tires not so gripping and dam I’m fighting through traction 1-2 no matter how I feather it .
@@alexvillalobos7137 all seasons aren’t the best for that
@@drewthrower4509 I know I just couldn’t afford $300 a tire so I bought some all season pirellis with 200 threadwear thinking they’d competed with ps4s
@@alexvillalobos7137 I feel you. Good new tires are expensive. And they wear quick
Best type R launches I've ever seen anyone do
Aftermarket tires?
@@wbwayne8887 I think so too
God just told me that Type-R is on slick tires...the truth.
He drives the civic like an automatic
Not really his first gear on the second race was awful he took so long to actually shift into second
Type r is a crazy little beast 👀,,,I was impressed on how the Veloster boosted in sport mode,,very nice.
Thing looks like a sedan not a hatch it’s huge
hyundai DCT is Junk
@@footbollpro it’s so light it ain’t huge by any standard
Wow, I was expecting the Veloster to take the dig and the Civic on the top end, amazing driver in that Type R for sure.
The civic had a better driver that's all.
@@dcrl755 honestly the civic has a way better engine for a turbo it keeps pulling even past the redline
@@dcrl755 the Hyundai is an automatic. Wouldn’t matter
My Verloster on my channel
@@a124as honestly 😂
The N automatic 0 to 60 in 4.8 4.9 don't see the type R with those times ??
We need a civic type R vs the TLX type S drag race….
Not drag… roll race. AWD vs FWD c’mon now 🤦🏽♂️
@@Ace20001216 I’d like to see both drag and roll races. 👍
@@Ace20001216 So? You gonna make that excuse at the red light?
@@cosmic_gate476 no because I’m not stupid enough to race from light to light which proves nothing other than who has a better launch. Since an automatic AWD takes no skill. Roll race shows who has more power. Don’t tell me your excuse is gonna be “let’s race at a dig” since you can’t keep up?
Racing is racing. I like doing both rolls and digs
The veloster wing looks so much better than the Civics.
Hyundai don't put power down consistently compared to Honda's. Especially on the Sonata N-line, K5 GT, its really hard to get the launch right.
You’re 100% correct. In fact the launch control in the N is very tricky same with Sonata N Line
Wobbly loose mounts, and weak rubber bushings, that are made for comfort will keep any car from doing a good launch and wheel hop its way into second gear.
@@SamCarLegion please mention what tires cars are on as its a factor in drag races too.
Thanks for good material 🖐
Sonata N line and K5 GT lol are they really sport cars? Their N line and GT engines are base engines in their own other products.
I never buy Hyundai vihicle🤮🤮😂
Honestly, kudos to the type R driver! They are so hard to launch properly and he did it consistently. Admittedly, I’m a HUGE Honda fan so this made me happy as I’ve definitely seen Veloster N’s with the DCT beat type R’s
As a Type R owner I agree. The only thing I disagree with the video is the Type R isn’t stock. Those are not stock wheels and tyres and they will give the Type R an advantage on launch over factory.
He didn’t use the launch control feature on the Veloster N, it’s much faster from the dig that way
I have a type r I don't see what's so difficult about launching it properly than it is for any other fwd 6 speed manual car.
@@davemorris6747 You don't know what tires he's running though they could perform less in a launch because I know mine and many other owners aftermarket tires do, the stock tires are very grippy. A lot of type r owners opt for more forgiving all season tires that are softer to give a comfier ride. In my case I run 18 inch pilot sport 4 all seasons. They don't grip as well but the ride comfort is far better and they last longer.
@@supafance92 very true, I run full 20 inch Pilot Sport 4 S’s. On regular streets, the difference wasn’t major but on a prepped surface, the difference was insane. Getting a true 13.6 on a drag strip was impossible for me with the stock tires
Good race! Like you said Sam, typeR driver knows how to drive manual. Regardless typeR was going to be faster but N was right behind. For the money and design of the car, I would probably edge towards the N. TypeR is a awesome car though. Thank you for another exciting race.
Just a note, the type r has rev match so it helps a ton.
Would have loved to see launch control used in the Veloster N.
Both cars are great choices , I’d like to see the N driver in the R and the R driver In the N .
if we change a driver the results is the same,because the type r has much power.....
The Hyundai is a dct. It’s not 6 speed
the N is going to have the same launch everytime… it’s an automatic
@@Schumy1684 Who is driving makes a big difference, especially in a manual. And the power difference isn't THAT massive
Was the driver in the DCT Veloster n even using launch control? And if he was, did he check to see what RPMs the car was set to launch at? Type R shouldn't be gapping a DCT VN when proper tech is used and driven properly
I saw the Veloster N DCT run 13.2 stock, so it makes me think the Type R isn't so stock. Not too many folks spend the money on those wheels and nothing else.
Actually alot of people just get wheels first . Because the stock tires on the 20s are not practical for most roads. They bend too easy on potholes. I have a CTR and all I did so far are wheels and tires .
Why is it hard to believe the civic is faster stock? It's 70lbs lighter. Has 30 more hp and 35 more tq .
I own a Verloster - on my channel, but the Honda TR is the better car Interior, HP ,Looks, and Sound
Please do stinger vs the type R. I wish Hyundai would sale the i30N in canada and not the Veloster N.
Ive seen the type r keep up with the stinger so i second this suggestion. As a stinger owner i am very interested in the result!
The type R has no chance against a stinger
@@reloadingdontshoot1 if it's an AWD Stinger it will beat the Type R. Haven't seen a side by side before but this drag race was done a couple of times in one of Motor Trend's worlds greatest drag race videos... Stinger and Type R were participants. Stinger beat it, not by a whole lot but a win's a win.
The veloster N is better than the i30n lighter and more HP
@@f181234 i like the way the i30N looks and its more practical with 5 doors and more space. In Europe they sale it in big number. But that just me.😉
if the launch control was being used on the DCT in N mode, would have probably had it from a dig.
Agreed
YEP, this guy didn't even use N MODE he went in sport lol and no use of the ngs over boost button.. what a joke
True, however, it still would’ve been close. The driver in the Type R is a beast, not many people can launch that car that well. According to car and driver the Veloster is 4.8 and the Type R is 4.9, I can only imagine the Type R with the 10 speed auto. Amazing cars
It would still have lost.The type-r is faster and ofcourse a much better car but its more expensive.
tru
Props to the Honda driver👏
Considering the Hyundai weighs more than the Civic and has 30 less hp, this is a win for Hyundai!
I don’t see this as a win. I’m sure if the type r was an automatic it wouldn’ve gap it. For a manual to beat a car like this it’s a win for the type-r . I was expecting the N to win of the line and the type r to catch up but that was not the case great cars
@@leonbaptiste2272 Sam loses in every car he drives...but the Veloster N is a much less expensive car, heavier and 30 horses less...its a definite win for the Hyundai.
Why is the smaller Veloster N 2 door more heavier than the bigger 4 door civic type r makes no sense
@@popsandbangs8858 he did and that guy who owns the type R knows how to drive manual. in my opinion the type R is the better engineered car and the N is worth the money for what you’re getting
@@f181234 Veloster has a DCT, Civic type R has a lighter manual transmission...weight matters.
Sam, did you use the Veloster's launch mode and/or NGS? Those are both systems that allow the Veloster with DCT to achieve it's fastest times. If they weren't utilized, you handicapped the VN right out of the gate.
Yep :)
@@SamCarLegion so im curious what rpm did you launch the car at ?
@@SamCarLegion
Good enough for me. Sorry to beat a dead 🐴.
Great video thanks! First let me say both are great cars, although I do have a bias as I have a Type R. I thought I saw numbers for the Veloster N and the 0-60mph times were like 4.9 so I was surprised at the outcome! I guessed the DCT tranny would be much faster than the Type R but your video showed otherwise. The Type R typically is a mid 5 second car from what I have seen but a lot comes down to the driver with a manual tranny, props to the Type R driver in this video. The 10 second power boost is a cool feature. Thanks for exploring the different modes, great video!
Hell yeah brother!!!! Just got my 21 type R
Fingers crossed baby cheeks
Have fun on the curves! It's a BEAST!
@@RelaxAndSmokeMeth thank you brother, couldn’t agree more 🙌🏼
I miss having a fun hatch with a manual these days. For those of you that can still drive these I am jealous but there is no way I am fitting 2 adults and 3 kids in these, thanks again Sam 🤘👍🤘👍🤘
They need to make fast wagon vehicles
@@curiosityredpill7030 they do just not in merica lol
@@slipknotron1626 yea I know I’m just saying that would’ve been nice like the Mazda wagon etc
@@curiosityredpill7030 oh I'm with you I would be interested
Very good race! I'm a little bit surprised by the Type R, i really thought the N DCT could win against the manual Honda but still two very nice cars!
25 more hp for the r i think
It’s not a stock type r when it’s got aftermarket wheels and tires.
Impressive for the Type-R knowing that Manual and FWD usually don’t mix off of the line. The Veloster didn’t do too bad considering the power difference. A Civic with a DCT or the 10-Speed from the Type-S would definitely Gap it. Honda Power.
Yeah, but i dont want a DCT in my FK8. I'll keep my manual even if a DCT is faster ;-)
Honda Type-R still the best!! Awesome!!
am i the only one who didnt hear any antilag on the N? wer you on Nmode?
If you lean your head into it a little more, you’ll go even faster. Cool video! 👌🏼
TH-cam's captions says (Lobster End) instead of Veloster N. I'm definitely sticking with the Lobster
Another good one Sam.. As always...Type R is king....Veloster is almost there...
Unless launch control and NGS was used, I'm still not totally convinced.
If a Mazdaspeed 3 was available right one, do you think it will take the top spot of the type R?
Nah if you put Sam in the Type R, the Veloster would’ve won
@@jalmonte91 the Veloster N being a DCT, and the Type R a manual...I very highly doubt it. As the Type R takes MORE skill to launch as a manual. The N not so much. So it's STILL Type R FTW. Just because you wanted the N to win...doesn't mean it does in the real world.
@@howlandl.286 your comment is spot on 💯💯💯, unfortunately not many people understand that the CTR is a legendary car
As far as I know, Veloster N has 'N Mode' which is much faster than 'Sport Mode'. Why wasn't 'N Mode' used for drag?
Because he doesnt do any homework on a car before he drives it!
Type-r driver must've been shifting like his life depended on it! I'm still impressed how fast it is on the big end of a race.
for much less money, I chose the Veloster N...it's fun!
No launch control but good race. That was closer than I expected
I paid $32,500 for my N DCT. What is everyone paying for their Type-Rs?
Performance per dollar, the N wins hands down.
$54,500 after taxes, fees, etc. I actually dont even have a problem saying that on the internet, and open myself up to the comments, “youre a fool”, “couldve gotten a corvette/much better car”, “youre whats wrong with the world”, blah, blah, blah. Thats how much I like the car. Kudos for paying less than me. Youre a better man than I. Cheers!
Sorry You are pretty bad driver Sam. Veloster n is faster than type r in drag on the other Chanels
Sam if the veloster N was in launch control mode, what was the launch rpm set at for the launch control?
Not surprised here at all, the type R driver was excellent with his shifting, but a Type-R would beat a dct volestor any day all day
This channel deserves 1 million subscribers.......
To be fair, I think that veloster could have done so much better. The DCT model comes with full blown launch control. It could have shot off the line better than that I think. Maybe i am wrong, but it didnt look or sound like launch control was used.
If you know the type r driver I'd reccomend doing a video where we can see in first person from his perspective on how he is shifting. I think it would be a super good learning video for us type r owners
That Type-R look good from the back! :~))))
Looks like someone doesn't know how to use launch control properly on the N. It's hard.
Best type r launching I've seen. I'm curious what tires he's on. Either way those are hard to launch and he did amazing.
Sorry I’m getting to the comments on this video so late. The tires I was running were Nitto INVO’s in a 255/35r18.
Did not use launch control, did not use ngs. Nice video but it could have been closer.
I hope you don't forget to use the N grin shift boost button!
I did
@@SamCarLegion you used it or you forgot to use it?
Hi Sam, can you do a video of the Honda Civic type R vs Kia Stinger 3.3 twin turbo
Expected a better fight out of the DCT Veloster N honestly. It’s supposed to be faster than the manual version, but it doesnt really look any faster. Id like to see a 6 speed Veloster N vs a DCT Veloster N
My thoughts
Civic Type R should win awards for Ugliest car!
All jokes aside, out of all the type r launches, this dude is literally killing it, please have the camera on him when he’s launching and shifting gears please!
No kidding. As a CTR owner I know first hand how hard it is to consistently launch them well without a tune to set torque by gear. Those aftermarket tires were probably a huge help over stock tires. The stock Contis are great for lateral grip, but they really suck for acceleration. I switched over to PS4Ss and was able to turn up my tune 30lb/ft in 1st and 2nd and still stick.
You the Man Sam! Awesome video. Love all your Honda contents!
Thank you :)
Judging by the exhaust, this Type R is not stock.
That’s actually my car. It has a catback, however it hasn’t been tuned. And so there are no real benefits! Other than the sound of course.
@@danieldunn3429 do u have a DP
@@martintintin7729 no. Everything is stock.
@@danieldunn3429 uhh huh so they say
You literally gain nothing from a cat back exhaust on Ethier cars!
you didn’t bother with the NGS on the veloster N?
Doesn't look like he did. That button does make a difference.
This should be interesting. If Car and Driver is correct, the N DCT should have the edge.
@@Ajank215
No launch control and also no NGS?
the guy don’t know how to race we need younger ppl driving these cars, they will have a better reaction
the Honda has the edge here..both are cool in looks though..
@@shiftautomotive854 why?
The Veloster doesn’t stand a chance against the CTR anyway without using Launch Control.
He makes it clear that doesn’t use it kn all his races.
Wait! The NGS mode (small button on steering wheel) gives your the extra torque.
Sick race! I loved it
:)
Great match up. Type R driver knows how to launch and very fast shifts 👍🏻. Would be cool to see the match up again with the same driver and stock wheels and tires on the Type R.
Pretty much any race with a manual gear box is going to be heavily dependent on the driver. That Type R driver clearly knows his car well. Very impressed by the consistent launches and 1-2 upshifts. With such close HP and torque numbers I would have put my money on the consistency of launch control and a DCT. As someone who has owned multiple manual sports cars and sedans I am happy to have been wrong here. Any time a manual car beats a stick with comparable numbers it HAS to bring a smile to your face - COME ON! :)
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Sam can you please please do a stage 1 GLI vs type R?
Honda Type-R Wins the Hyundai N... again over and over. Yup, Type-R!! Amazingly, Japan have created a small beautiful performance car.
Good race, Ive had both cars and can definitely say the type R is a little faster although the N feels faster and more fun while driving.
best racing youtube, always straight to the point.
The TypeR is no joke. I have a new found admiration for the Veloster N. I always liked them, they are cool to me, very different and I applaud Hyundai for making something so different. BUT it’s the Civic TypeR for me all the way.
That Type R is lowered and aftermarket rims isn’t it? What tires?
Veloster for start, then civic for top end
All day
civic around the track too(where it really belongs).
@@pope9349 you're just a bigger type r fanboy and it shows lol type r isn't the best car ever made either. BTW a modified N over a type r modified. The N beat it around the track
@@dannygaldamez7616 hahahah if he's a type r fan then I can tell you are a Hyundai fan and goodluck beating a Type R around a track with your so called moded Veloster N🤣
@@dannygaldamez7616 wtf are you talking about? Stock for stock the type r is faster around a track. Go read the head to head reviews. If you want to claim aftermarket is better than a stock type r cool, but what about an aftermarket type r? Veloster n might be 80% of the overall package of the type r but 80% is not better. And you call someone else a fanboy? L O L
No N mode? Was traction control in sport mode or completely off? Noticed you’re comment about it being in N mode even though you say sport mode in the video, should maybe clarify on the video itself, bit confusing. Stock vs Stock the type R takes it every time but not by much.
It's amazing to watch someone finally drag race a Type R and actually knows how to launch the car and he shifts like a beast. Feels like any other drag race with some newbie car review guy, the CTR always grinds something hard and they just bleed speed every shift they do. It's no easy feat to keep up with a DCT shifting the old school way.
So damn true 😂
Love both of these hot hatches. My 2 favorite I would absolutely own, great video as always.
Fiesta or Focus ST would fit in with those nicely also.
Type R is untouchable. Great engineering + LSD
@@nickmotsarsky4382 very hideous I agree 😂 all hondas are ugly
Next time, maybe you guys could switch the cars and then compare the results to make driver factor less affecting?
I see why the tune 1.5 civic wouldn't be a good match up against these 2 , cause it'll be smoking these two AGAIN. Good call sam
I will get your car don’t worry man
@@SamCarLegion you'll buy me the stinger I've been wanting for 2 years? Thanks
@@josevince2424 you’re the owner of the 1.5 civic right?
Not the one with the snow mobil transmission! Sound like a jet ski boat...👎
@@SamCarLegion nope, I have the 2.0 swap with 1.5 soon
I have watched a few videos and I have noticed that when a car has a launch mode, it is sometimes not used. I'm curious as to why that is? Why wasn't there a run with a launch mode enabled? Thank you for doing these videos, I really enjoy them.
Imagine if the Type R had a 10 speed.. 🏁🤔
Warm the tires??? Lounch control??? N mode???
Done, done, done ✅
Type R vs K5 GT?
Why would they compare a manual against DCT ? Why not the manual vs manual ?
Because we already did
Those tires on the CTR might have helped it hook up easier than most stock tires would.
Good point. Can't claim stock if EVERYTHING isn't stock.
@@wbwayne8887 same size tire as stock. Just down two inches to 18’s. As far as the tread goes. They’re nitto invo’s.
Stock type r tires are already one of the best summer tires you can buy
@@dineshe3719 Good tire, not the best.
Where the type R shines is on a curvy track but no slouch in a straight line for a fwd car.
Type R to much power for the N batch, Good vid Sam.
I own a Type R. It is very slow off the line (just smokes the tires too much) and doesn't start coming on until middle of 2nd gear, then it out powers most of the other cars in it's class from there to the end of the 1/4. It also has gear crunch into 2nd gear. It has amazing torque in the middle of 4th and 5th gears as well.
Great runs. When possible, K5GT vs type r.
yes please
Once he can get that new Elantra it needs to go against the Type R
I have a VN manual but I’m not bias. But I don’t think he ever hit the button to use the NGS. Being in N mode means nothing if you don’t push the button. IJS.
Would it had won with that driver? No .. but a driver like him is 1 in 10,000.
Japanese Type R the king, can’t wait for the new generation, I wonder if it’ll have a minor power bump.
You should do a base ecoboost mustang vs Veloster N (dct). That seems like a good competition!
Japan enginering vs Korean enginering ! Japan always Win !
Imagine now the type R with an 8speed dct
I prefer the veloster looks still. New gen civic hatchback looks promising. Specially when they give it the type r treatment. They seem to be less flashy so I’m hoping the same for the new type r
I like both these cars even though I’m Honda at heart.
I choose the Veloster N ,maybe because I have one lol ,thx great video
It’s going be interesting when the Elantra N comes out!
It’s 276 hp and it’s more heavier than the veloster
It's 280 bhp and 289 lbs of TQ! It is also rumored to have a slightly bigger compressor wheel in the turbo to help with the lack of top end the Veloster suffers from. That and 245 PS4'S tires. Not sure how true what is rumored but it is also said that overboost will bring it to 290 bhp and can be used every 45 seconds instead of the 3 minute cool down the Veloster has.
@@nstylemotorsportsracing1471 be nice if they’d put the same spec engine in the next year veloster, would help it a lot
@@BigDunker345 definitely! I hope they do they should. Unfortunately I don't believe the Veloster N will survive much longer after the Elantra N comes out 🥺
@@popsandbangs8858 AWD won't happen as long as Touring Car Racing is a thing. The Veloster N is Hyundai's TCR Ambassador car in North America, where every car in the class is a FWD 2.0
why the veloster n was not drag race in n mode or n custom lol, no launch control ...did he used the ngs for the 20second overboost ?
Pay attention bud
Yes he certainly did use it! And truth be told the LC could have made things worse!
The CTR’s are quick. In a real life situation on the high way or both entering an on ramp, the Hyundai driver would be embarrassed. This was a good example though
Depending on the driver, the CTR is quicker. But the driver here made a heck of a difference.
Don't be so sure about that I took the type r from a light to light the other day where I live. I have the dct also.
@@dannygaldamez7616 “I took the type r from a light to light the other day”
Dude was probably wondering why you were racing him, probably because he was in the superior car and was annoyed and wasn’t trying. Slow down on surface streets.
@@dannygaldamez7616 racing yourself doesnt count buddy
@@dannygaldamez7616 yep plus our DCT's love to eat corners..
You didn't try the launch control in the N
Civic Type R driver was outstanding. Much props to him
Closer only because your driving a automatic, the N with 6 speed won’t even come close to 5he type R
Launch Control is needed in this car. Veloster N also has adjustable shifting, and NGS button activated in N mode. I don't believe ANY of that was done. I have driven many 2017+ civic Type r, and I drove a manual 2021 veloster N, and a dct veloster N. Veloster N dct is the fastest of the 3, then civic type r then veloster 6 spd manual.
All of that was done
Ok well if so then Im not 100% what happened then. Maybe Civic Type R had a few mods? Flashpro? I tell people a couple of my cars are stock, they all have a tune at least lol. Whether it's Hondata, cobb, Sct etc lol. Just my opinion I drove all 3 on same day and it felt to me at least like the 2021 veloster dct was the fastest. Also as per car and driver results. Of course I never did time them / take them to the track.
It happened that the Type R is faster.
@@mustangcruisewinetours9702 Car and Driver says Veloster N DCT does 0-60 in 4.8 and The Type R does it in 4.9...Not surprised at all. Type R has a higher trap speed also in the 1/4 mile....
@@popsandbangs8858 I didnt say anything about times. I said trap speed on a CTR is faster...meaning from a roll its faster....
Could we get Hyundai Veloster N vs Hyundai Veloster Turbo?