The judge is covering up for Gininda he must allow the witness to talk not him helping him to change the statement. Why is the judge disrespecting the defence
I doubt there is anything else guys trust me! It is the way advocates speak. They should be allowed to speak in their mother tongue. It's difficult to listen to them, honestly now...😢😢 I AM SO SURRY. TO SAY. My English is very Mild and I'd rather speak my own language to be heard very fast and clearly. An interpreter was supposed to be interpreting in English for those who don't understand isiZulu.
Hi Advocate, it's me again trying ask the defence to work as a team and don't let Baloyi and the Judge distract you from the main go. This trial within a trial is about finding out if indeed the statements or confessions of one and 1 were made freely and voluntarily without any form of persecution from the investigating officers. Any evidence outside this scope can be revisted in the main trial, that is if it processed to main trial. All the destructions regarding the alibi, bank statements and the Sangoma should be fought and resisted fiercely as a team. You will have to with those matters in the main trial. You have to fight as a collective.
Advocate Mngomezulu, This man came here and change the whole game. I can not wait for Mnisi and Mshololo cross examination, its gon be fire Adv Mngomezulu took gininda without preparing imagine what he is going to do to him tomorrow🔥 The defence must work as a team, we got them where we want
Brigadier Gininda destroyed Mngomezulu he was even suffering from panic attacks, asking for premature adjustment 😂😂😂. This guy doesn’t read documents he is winging it
In South Africa when someone is Fluent in English, other people think he is SMART.. In this Case many people think GININDA is answering the questions,while he is giving explanation...by so doing people think he is Smart..
He is not a first time offender so people can comment on any how but this guy has been in the system for a long time.Speak freely open doesn't means you speak the truth. I believe what the accused are saying this guy has been watching this case and he is here to cut the loose that the other witnesses failed to do but he will make mistakes he can play smart for now 😂
I beg to differ, the guy is all over may be his strategy is to confuse the defense,but it wont work after all the singing ,the question will still stand.
@@Zulomnyama.true unfortunately. But at the expense of ppl's lives & destiny we rather settle for a win as the state? Ngiyakuzwa shame but iyhoo the repercussions thereof are very huge 😢
4:29:37 Gininda doesn’t know who issued the J50 for accused number 1 in relation to case 636… a whole lead investigator doesn’t know… wooooow😂😂😂 Mngomezulu is surgical with his line of questioning 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Really, defence are trying their best but there is nothing to prove that their statements where not voluntary, this idiots first said that they don't know why they are charged, that they do not know each other but we now hear differently, Poor Ngomezulu is trying but there is no defence here
Seriously I'm still shaking on today's proceedings on the Judge remarks, I know this case more than any people in this court, triar of fact, more so as Judge, no law or justice is applied fair if aren't one connected
@@macmandla3582I support you people r commenting u don’t come to court without reading ur papers at all hence he said that not to disrespect to any one
Can the NPA intervene in this case. This judge i think his not aware that his next to the mic, he keeps on agreeing with the state witness, he keeps saying. Hmmm hmmm hmmm hmmm
Yhooh,Mntase 😢...do you think that NPA can do any difference because I don't trust even lo NPA cause they are human beings...(NPA)they eating lunches with abo gininda,Cele,Mr President. This another country-😢😢😢
what a coincidence, arrested for drug related case and walaaaa sebethola our Senzo killers. How convenient 🙄. Gininda is just a smooth talker. They have to stick together, the bunch of liars
very true, he is way above what I anticipated. am sure those who wanted him here thinking he is blunt are amazed. mshololo they say you are smart come for gininda he is here. I doubt if nxumalo will dare cross examine him.
The other thing Mr Gininda in his testimony says accused number 2 told him he didn't require any legal representation when he made the confession, how come on being presented to court he had Mr. Myzako? The guy was being moved at awkward times and had no phone, when did he make arrangements for Mr Myzako. Again this Mr Myzako appears as some advocate for the police from online searches. Try to dig deeper, the police and the prosecution are playing a dirty game and the judge buys it.
@@nsimbindebele2868 no its just the tactics to confuse the witness but bcos the judge alwys protecting the witness that why he ended up taking sides and answer for witness
5:03:40 theres so much happening in this court, the Judge's behaviour is so unprofessional,how can he cheer 🎉🎉🎉 for the witness in the dock though, such disrespect to the defense. I don't hate him but his actions are so unbecoming lately.😮
The useless old judge will never ever interject when Baloyi speaks nor the witnesses. He is taking sides. Why don't you just sentence this accused because you already have the verdict
Judge is the presiding officer he has to do all means that there's mutual understanding on aspects that is why is always he citing laws in any case . he is not bias nor taking sites that's all
Adv Mgo is a G.O.A.T. He does not allow the Judge to manipulate him. The Judge interfere where he is not needed. He is the Judge, the state and the witness
the strategy of Rata Baloyi and Gininda is to dribble pass this confusion of Thembisa case and Senzo Meyiwa case and Nongoma case hence they are now bringing the J50 of case 636
Gininda is talking about zungu’s statement, that was commissioned on the 23rd of May 2024, while the accused made confessions on the 30th May and 19 June, they didn’t have evidence and acted upon the hearsay, planted life ammunition’s so that they can try to build a case, my view in this case Zungu was involved in the killing of Senzo Meyiwa and trying to protect the real killer and himself since well he knew the accused were inkabis
Defense caught off guard coz Gininda knows his story and spits facts. This Gininda doesn't even sound like a normal police guy lol n this guy shud be police minister.
I hope the judge reads the public 's comments. He needs to improve from what he does showing no respect for the defense. This is an insult to the Meyiwa family as well as the suspects. Let alone the whole nation and the international world. He is just....
They regurgitate what the judge knows and fully understands. The judge wants more compelling evidence. The defence keeps on hammering on the same issues. One is torture, and the other is reading of rights. No other substance.
Thats noh true this judge is very attentive and has several times corrected the defence in misquoting previous evidence statements, at times the defence would make assertions not relevant to the evidence given before
@mzecara1676 i spoke exactly what you have said > Kelly, > Kininda, > Ntombi, > Longwe, > Mmaphiri, > Sello, > George, and > Ratha They met somewhere in secret place were they brain storm this case 🤞🏿
I wonder why this judge was brought back from retirement,were they no current judges available to do this, this is questionable shame unless if this was done in the past coz wow 😢😢😢😢
To my view Kelly will not be arrested, because she is highly connected politically,it was also alleged that she had romantic relationship with min of crimes
@@Obitseng There is no minister of crimes in South Africa, please learn to look for information yourself and stop gravitating to rumours and group thinking.
I'm lost Are u guys saying the accused are innocent and didn't kill senzo or what exactly are we saying Shouldn't we be on state side and demand the killers to get sentence Or I'm missing something
The verdict will be that both accused one and two did the confession freely and that is where the further confession of accused three.four and five involvement to crime come to picture and further that is where the main trial is going to find all accused guilty.There is no doubt the accused were assaulted. They were forced to sign the confession in results of being assaulted.These is organised crime unit.They can beat you until you say yes I did it even when you didn't do anything .
Well you weren't paying attention when they read his experiences and qualifications, anyway he is gonna eat them when he wrote the story or not, his experience brought us the killers.
He can't make any reference with Zungus shredded statement, we haven't forgotten that he said he wrote ,signed and commissioned his statement, He said the statement is in KZN ,the court adjourned early for him to fetch it.
No they won't sisi. This group are abo unthengiwe, brown envelope. They want those hitmen to be found not guilty inspite of the overwhelming evidence against them and the amount of lies they told.
It's quite interesting for a judge to ask the police that were any abuse,biting and assualt ever made on the accussed and expect a positive response. A normal perso can incriminate him/herself? This judge is playing marbles.
That will be justice, the family doesn’t know the murders they where not there. If this guys are the ones found guilty they have to accept and stop their witch hunt
@@iconiclizfizz805 Why he was asking for postponement? Even the issue of J50 boom 💥 💥 💥 Ramosepele had J50 long time ago and didn't tell Mngomezulu about it. I hope you are covered now.
“Extemporaneously and contemporaneously”the judge was doing very well as always in keeping order and progression as for mngomezu should prepare better coz he is absolutely done better than the shivering Ramosepele but him crying today was just too low👎🏽lol the joke by Ramosepele rejuvenated the court mood at the end 🤣🤣🤣🤣Brigadier Ginida 🙏🏽🙏🏽man of the match 👏🏿👏🏿your an absolute gem 🤞🏽👌🏽
Yoh I'm worried about Mr Mngomezulu's health. Judge Ratha is sometimes rude and the defense is obliged to be respectful at all times. It's becoming tense. The defense finds it hard to do it's work.
Mngomezulu,you representing liars,so far they even struggled with their own names,and their family members identities, Brig Gininda knows exactly what he's talking about,u
🤣hayi mngomezulu is just wasting time yaaa last kick of the dying horse.but anyways .can this case finish now? Yooo !!!.but defense I heard that its you strategy to run after after state witness irregularities for you to win the case. Hope Baloi is is aware,as defense has nothing to write home for.only thing about Gininda I have essues with us 2014 Case file
Meyiwa family must forget getting justice here. The judge keeps on interjecting its appaling !! Its just annoying to the core😏 Thank you Mngoh for standing your ground. I feel for you. Its so sad.
I agree "thousand million times" 😅 "I can put my head on the block" 😅 probably ratha's interference aggravated advocate Mngo's health he's been evidently not well and he was very angry yesterday. ratha was busy reading the charge sheet while Mngo was consulting with the accused that's so low of this 50 years experience judge, so apoling
The judge is covering up for Gininda he must allow the witness to talk not him helping him to change the statement. Why is the judge disrespecting the defence
Ratha seems fear Gininda maybe not sure...
Ratha's attitude says it all, something is itching him and he doesn't want to listen🤔
Abusing powers
Dementia is killing the judge. Mentally he is out of order
I doubt there is anything else guys trust me! It is the way advocates speak. They should be allowed to speak in their mother tongue. It's difficult to listen to them, honestly now...😢😢 I AM SO SURRY. TO SAY. My English is very Mild and I'd rather speak my own language to be heard very fast and clearly. An interpreter was supposed to be interpreting in English for those who don't understand isiZulu.
Hi Advocate, it's me again trying ask the defence to work as a team and don't let Baloyi and the Judge distract you from the main go. This trial within a trial is about finding out if indeed the statements or confessions of one and 1 were made freely and voluntarily without any form of persecution from the investigating officers. Any evidence outside this scope can be revisted in the main trial, that is if it processed to main trial. All the destructions regarding the alibi, bank statements and the Sangoma should be fought and resisted fiercely as a team. You will have to with those matters in the main trial. You have to fight as a collective.
Asseblief😢
The Defense must be united to win this case. Otherwise, Baloyi will show them flames.
@@khethokuhlesiziba5068together with baloyi's father who's always by his side and interrupts the defense and be a witness at the same time
The problem is they don't take heed of the judge's hints when he gives them. They just plough on as if he is not the decision maker.
@@Adjudicator246 you are exactly on point. The defence forgets that Gininda is a police officer
if we can back Mngomezulu with prayers, the judge has already ruled this case
Prayers for the suspects with multi criminal charges? You guys are very funny.
@@anthonynchabeleng2664 imagine praying for criminals?maybe to repent
😂You are a joke! .I’m really concerned if this is how you think everyday 🤣
Advocate Mngomezulu, This man came here and change the whole game.
I can not wait for Mnisi and Mshololo cross examination, its gon be fire
Adv Mngomezulu took gininda without preparing imagine what he is going to do to him tomorrow🔥
The defence must work as a team, we got them where we want
What a great day in court today. Thank u Adv Mngomezulu❤👏👏👏
Brigadier Gininda destroyed Mngomezulu he was even suffering from panic attacks, asking for premature adjustment 😂😂😂. This guy doesn’t read documents he is winging it
Th Judge is very silly.... He undermines the intelligence of the defense.
No it not so what frustrate Mngomezulu is the judge interjection
In South Africa when someone is Fluent in English, other people think he is SMART..
In this Case many people think GININDA is answering the questions,while he is giving explanation...by so doing people think he is Smart..
😂yes my lord 1000tymz
Yes is eloquent and abreast of this case more than Mngomezulu. Mngomezulu is used to getting things his way, he has met his match in Gininda
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💯 correct
Exactly, people will perish because of the lack of knowledge. Ginindaa is not smart
He is not a first time offender so people can comment on any how but this guy has been in the system for a long time.Speak freely open doesn't means you speak the truth. I believe what the accused are saying this guy has been watching this case and he is here to cut the loose that the other witnesses failed to do but he will make mistakes he can play smart for now 😂
Vele that was the plan.
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😂well said you're very literate sir
Ratha you are a Father and a grandfather too, this day will come in tons to you
Gininda can express himself very well and his evidence tally with his decision to arrest suspects.
These lawyers thought this Gininda was a walk in the park. The truth will come out
The defence was no match to Brig Gininda
It's true Mngomezulu is totally unprepared disgusting you can see Brigadier no his story and say the truth
I beg to differ, the guy is all over may be his strategy is to confuse the defense,but it wont work after all the singing ,the question will still stand.
@@nontethelelosiyaya4066 tomorrow will be interesting
This thing of retired judges must stop. Labantu abadle impesheni beyeke ukuzogugela kithi
he is here to save the state....think about this...how much the state will loose if the state loose this case
😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂
Hayi ngempela 😂😂
@@Zulomnyama.true unfortunately. But at the expense of ppl's lives & destiny we rather settle for a win as the state? Ngiyakuzwa shame but iyhoo the repercussions thereof are very huge 😢
Gininda for president this guy is clear. Mgomezulu is collapsing
4:29:37 Gininda doesn’t know who issued the J50 for accused number 1 in relation to case 636… a whole lead investigator doesn’t know… wooooow😂😂😂 Mngomezulu is surgical with his line of questioning 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
He thinks he's smart lies Wil catch up with him soon
Really, defence are trying their best but there is nothing to prove that their statements where not voluntary, this idiots first said that they don't know why they are charged, that they do not know each other but we now hear differently, Poor Ngomezulu is trying but there is no defence here
"I think I know the case better than others here" usile Ratha shame
He talking nonsense why don't he tell us the truth coz they tald him wat to do, they give him money to come and oppose the aternys,
Seriously I'm still shaking on today's proceedings on the Judge remarks, I know this case more than any people in this court, triar of fact, more so as Judge, no law or justice is applied fair if aren't one connected
I mean that's a judgement by itself...😮
You guys read too much into the statement but the judge is correct he is more prepared than the defence
@@macmandla3582I support you people r commenting u don’t come to court without reading ur papers at all hence he said that not to disrespect to any one
Can the NPA intervene in this case. This judge i think his not aware that his next to the mic, he keeps on agreeing with the state witness, he keeps saying. Hmmm hmmm hmmm hmmm
Yhooh,Mntase 😢...do you think that NPA can do any difference because I don't trust even lo NPA cause they are human beings...(NPA)they eating lunches with abo gininda,Cele,Mr President. This another country-😢😢😢
There's a Judge President who must deal with him, but also, the JP is his friend.
what a coincidence, arrested for drug related case and walaaaa sebethola our Senzo killers. How convenient 🙄. Gininda is just a smooth talker. They have to stick together, the bunch of liars
Well said my dear,what a coincidence🙃
Gininda is very sharp and clear. He is very knowledgeable as well .
He is a liar thus Gininda
H e is smart and well spoken.
very true, he is way above what I anticipated. am sure those who wanted him here thinking he is blunt are amazed. mshololo they say you are smart come for gininda he is here. I doubt if nxumalo will dare cross examine him.
When did you draw this conclusion, under EiC or cross exam?
Wait and see don't forget that he has rehearsed the case
Yohhh this judge though, i could feel Mngomezulu’s dissatisfaction from the court
Today I felt for Mngomezulu but at the end it's his job to make sure he read all the documents in front of him. Ratha is a very strict judge for sure
The other thing Mr Gininda in his testimony says accused number 2 told him he didn't require any legal representation when he made the confession, how come on being presented to court he had Mr. Myzako? The guy was being moved at awkward times and had no phone, when did he make arrangements for Mr Myzako. Again this Mr Myzako appears as some advocate for the police from online searches. Try to dig deeper, the police and the prosecution are playing a dirty game and the judge buys it.
Follow the evidence properly. Your confusion is because of ignorance but I will not judge you, you are not the one on trial.
Indeed this is a dirty game played here
This case involves Bheki Cele, via Chicco Twala. Gininda was told to play his card. Every police who played part in this case got promoted.
@@ernyzella368You are blowing hot air and fortunately the court deals with evidence and not your gossip or rumour mongering
@@user-eo8ir7pt3p So you don't know about innocent people who are serving/ served jail time, sent by the courts who deals with evidence?🤷♂️
Gininda is not clever he watched and prepared for with baloyi 😂😂
I like the fact that Mngomezulu knows how he operates nd try all means to stands his ground
That's very true, he does his job with passion. He makes mistakes sometimes but hey, we all humans.
But sometimes he is wasting courts time and clutching at straws.
@@nsimbindebele2868 no its just the tactics to confuse the witness but bcos the judge alwys protecting the witness that why he ended up taking sides and answer for witness
He nearly got an heart attack today. He couldn't wait for 15H30, Gininda is not a small boy.
@@anthonynchabeleng2664 True, Mngomezulu was not well prepared & Gininda is showing him flames... He needs to do better tomorrow
5:03:40 theres so much happening in this court, the Judge's behaviour is so unprofessional,how can he cheer 🎉🎉🎉 for the witness in the dock though, such disrespect to the defense.
I don't hate him but his actions are so unbecoming lately.😮
Lets stop blaming Mngomezulu its not easy in that court more especially when you deal with Ratha, Baloyi and lying Gininda
The useless old judge will never ever interject when Baloyi speaks nor the witnesses. He is taking sides. Why don't you just sentence this accused because you already have the verdict
The Judge and he's college Maboloi there are buyers,this Judge he take sides of witness,he must be changed
He will interject when the witness of the defence take a stand.
Confidence powered by deceit... arrogance powered by connection to state authorities..
Ngeke ulibuse Sir G....
The only thing ngeqili ukuba nembobo ekhaleni kwaphela qha
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They read the rights more than 100 times but they forgot human rights when they kept Ntanzi sleepless and in the car for long hours...🤷🏾♀️
Rights Reader
Jokes my darling
Because the Fortuner is "mabothobotho" with leather seats....😂😂imagine nje, a whole sergeant talking nonsense
@@buyixaba6024 Sleeping on leather seats and eating what he wanted from KFC,Wimpy and Nandos...😂🤣
@buyixaba6024
He is crazy. It might be comfortable to sit in but was never meant to be slept in.
Can some one please ask this judge to listen to hear and not listen to answer
Really, sometimes he don't even allow the person to finish the sentence and already answers
The judge is doing his job
Judge is the presiding officer he has to do all means that there's mutual understanding on aspects that is why is always he citing laws in any case . he is not bias nor taking sites that's all
😂😂😂😂 true 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@gugundimandenare7969thank love!❤. He surely is!
You kill Senzo in 2014 and keep some of the bullets till 2020?????
😂😂😂even Ntanzi's hoodie is still there in his room.ey South African police will show us flames
@@latitaabuti8057 Struuu!
Unbelievable indeed
yyyeyyi
Umndeni wakwa Meyiwa awusoze wajabula ngoba ngelanga okwabulawa ngalo u Meyiwa bathola ama unswer okuthi ngephutha manje lababasolwa babengekho nje endlini
Brigadier Gininda is THE BEST INVESTIGATOR SAPS HAS EVER PRODUCED. MAY UNIVERSE PROTECT HIM. I DON'T KNOW HIM BUT IM PROUD OF BIM.💪💪💪💪💪💪🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌
He is doing ok for the police force
do you mean BIM as Building Information Modelling for construction
Or
BIM as Mapping a Legal Issues in law
U dont knw gininda wena its like u don't knw ANC
You don't know this guy I guess
The best of the best 👌
Accused number 2 wanted to cut a deal with the prosecution but u all think that they are being framed,SATA FRIKA 😢
Adv Mgo is a G.O.A.T. He does not allow the Judge to manipulate him. The Judge interfere where he is not needed. He is the Judge, the state and the witness
Can the Defense team not report him?
the strategy of Rata Baloyi and Gininda is to dribble pass this confusion of Thembisa case and Senzo Meyiwa case and Nongoma case hence they are now bringing the J50 of case 636
I loved it when Mngomezulu said to the judge “ I heard a funny sound “😂😂
Judge Ratha is also a witness in this case. He is the most biased Judge ive witness in my life as a TH-cam crime trial observer
Number 1 witness
Ngulo waye betha intruder nge zantonga
Lol I love your position as a TH-cam crime trial observer 😂😂😂
Judge Ratha he knows exactly what his doing he intervene to set the record straight his not speaking on witnesses behalf
Score board reads Gininda 1 Defense 0, man of the match Gininda😂😂😂
BabaMngomezulu ukwatile namhlanje
Kfanele mf2 akukho fair la
It's hectic...😢
Gininda is talking about zungu’s statement, that was commissioned on the 23rd of May 2024, while the accused made confessions on the 30th May and 19 June, they didn’t have evidence and acted upon the hearsay, planted life ammunition’s so that they can try to build a case, my view in this case Zungu was involved in the killing of Senzo Meyiwa and trying to protect the real killer and himself since well he knew the accused were inkabis
Gininda is the 1 who removed confession statements from neighbors from the Docket
Ginida is not a brigadier by chance he's quiet knowledgeable
Intelligent
He knows his story otherwise uzokhala😂he can express himself eloquently
agreed
Yes you are right, Gininda is knowledgeable in FRAMING INNOCENT PEOPLE WORKING HAND IN HAND WITH THIS APARTHEID APOLOGIST JUDGE RATHATHA 😡🤞
@@user-fh1xn3bx7ghe must have a degree in framing people
Defense caught off guard coz Gininda knows his story and spits facts. This Gininda doesn't even sound like a normal police guy lol n this guy shud be police minister.
I hope the judge reads the public 's comments. He needs to improve from what he does showing no respect for the defense. This is an insult to the Meyiwa family as well as the suspects. Let alone the whole nation and the international world. He is just....
This Judge has a tendency of deliberately not listening especially to defense lawyers.
All the time
They regurgitate what the judge knows and fully understands. The judge wants more compelling evidence. The defence keeps on hammering on the same issues. One is torture, and the other is reading of rights. No other substance.
@@Adjudicator246for trial within the trial, those are the 2 main loophopes....
Listening is a skill
Thats noh true this judge is very attentive and has several times corrected the defence in misquoting previous evidence statements, at times the defence would make assertions not relevant to the evidence given before
The judge loves bri Ginindi lol he can’t hold it🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Gininda knows his story
Judge is shouting but he doesn't want adv mshololo what a nonsense judge
It will end in tears for Bragadier Gininda
You wish
@@LwandisoNcoboUdakiwe wena shlama
Yes indeed it will end in tears the world is watching and listening
It will end in tears for Ratha jack of all trades, Baloi and Ginanda
Big upp Adv Mgo you catch big fish the judges blood is boiling ❤Mgo
He is dom
@mzecara1676 i spoke exactly what you have said
> Kelly,
> Kininda,
> Ntombi,
> Longwe,
> Mmaphiri,
> Sello,
> George, and
> Ratha
They met somewhere in secret place were they brain storm this case 🤞🏿
I wonder why this judge was brought back from retirement,were they no current judges available to do this, this is questionable shame unless if this was done in the past coz wow 😢😢😢😢
Experience Baba
But you never wanted the previous judge 😂😂😂😂. Who do you want now
Old judges
Well done mngo stand for ground this judge us so buyers
We must decide if we want justice or we want longwe and Kelly to be arrested.
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To my view Kelly will not be arrested, because she is highly connected politically,it was also alleged that she had romantic relationship with min of crimes
@@Obitseng There is no minister of crimes in South Africa, please learn to look for information yourself and stop gravitating to rumours and group thinking.
You can't separate the two because the justice is around those names
@@siphelelesangweni2072 The possibility of intruders and other occupants is being deliberately ignored?
Gininda is so aloquent the defends need to up their game!!!
Ratha is an embarrassment to the Judiciary, he is Fully BIASED- Full stop.
I cant understand how he can be a Judge and be a very bad listener!
Gininda Gininda wawafundela amanga kodwa ayabonakala amaphutha uwenze abamaningi nawe uyabona
I'm lost
Are u guys saying the accused are innocent and didn't kill senzo or what exactly are we saying
Shouldn't we be on state side and demand the killers to get sentence
Or I'm missing something
I don’t know where people get the idea that these guys didn’t kill senzo, all the evidence presented in court points at these accused persons
GININDA❤🌟 GININDA❤🌟 GININDA❤🌟 GININDA❤🌟 GININDA❤🌟 GININDA❤🌟 GININDA❤🌟 GININDA❤🌟 GININDA❤🌟 GININDA❤🌟
Who is paying you?
Looooool, you started the war. You got a brown envelope🤣🤣🤣
The verdict will be that both accused one and two did the confession freely and that is where the further confession of accused three.four and five involvement to crime come to picture and further that is where the main trial is going to find all accused guilty.There is no doubt the accused were assaulted. They were forced to sign the confession in results of being assaulted.These is organised crime unit.They can beat you until you say yes I did it even when you didn't do anything
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You so easily believe murderers caught in many lies.
@@beewest5704y asesinos a sangre fría.
Beside him telling the truth or not, Mr Gininda is well spoken
VERY 😅
That is working to his advantage
One thing I have realized about u guys on you tube is that,"u all don't listen". Period😢
Gininda is oozing with experience these weak lawyers wont match him
He's the scripts writer of this movie, which experience are you talking about?
Gininda is talking advantage of previous witnesses when it comes to questions.So he made sure everything its in order
Imibuzo kabaloyi ifana ncamashi nemibuzo ayibuze amaprevious witness wenzela ukuthi uginyinja alungise amaphutha alabantu akade ebafundisa,imibuzo useyayazi yonke nezimpendulo zakhona futhi useyabazi nabameli abantekenteke
Absolutely true
Well you weren't paying attention when they read his experiences and qualifications, anyway he is gonna eat them when he wrote the story or not, his experience brought us the killers.
He can't make any reference with Zungus shredded statement, we haven't forgotten that he said he wrote ,signed and commissioned his statement, He said the statement is in KZN ,the court adjourned early for him to fetch it.
Lying or not under ...Gininda is very collective ,calm and intelligent my view
This case is going to open all can of worms for Gininda. All his skeletons are going to come out.
How I wish his lies could be exposed
Ey ngeke kwenzeke ngoba i judge liyamvikela futhi alikufihli lokho
Is it allowed for him to answer on behalf of the witness?if so ,why do they call witnesses to testify cos Ratha can do that.jerrrrrr
This judge SA please stand up for this witness Ratha
Hayi lobaba ngeke uyayidlisa iteam ngeke that's why we wanted the white judges in this case 😢😢
Ratha is so freaking rude
You crazy.Nothing rude.
And undermining the defense so badly like they are not professionals it's so low of this 50 year's experience judge
Gininda is misunderstanding Mngomezulu thus making him look unprepared cause he is answering something that is not asked
YOU ALL GOING TO APOLOGIZE AND LOVE BRIGADIER GININDA AFTER THIS CASE...
Love Gininda for what ? are you drunk by his sweet talk?
No they won't sisi. This group are abo unthengiwe, brown envelope. They want those hitmen to be found not guilty inspite of the overwhelming evidence against them and the amount of lies they told.
❤️💯
@@lebogangrichard246You are the same as the accused. Full of anger and rage.
South African people will never do that, they think they know what happened inside the house instead of listening to the evidence.
Mng is a top defence lawyer But I feel in this case the dice is loaded against him😮😮😮His clients will put him under the bus😢
They are lying to him
Bridadier Gininda is very articulate
Very...I think Mnisi will crack him though, I can already hear Mnisi saying,"Heh ndoda" 😅
To say one has not done their homework is a very poor excuse . Mng must not drag this case😢😢😢
Gininda will be the next national police commissioner
Never we still have a long way to to go
@@njabulojb2994 👍
Gininda also need same advise ....listen to hear Brigadier
Mr Gininda u have represented yourself very well 👍
His is shying away from the truth and he knows the judge has his grace back. Mngomezulu is already cornering him
He has represented the Police force very well
Mxim udunyelwa yiEnglish wena
@@mpoleen978😂😂😂😂 bathanda ukuthi ushibilika kamnandi ngo joji but ugijima ne script
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Yes the person can retire but knowledge will never retire...i think Mr Ratha know what he's doing 🤞🏽
the judge and his expression, the sigh's, the facials expressions and responses are getting boring
Zero EQ this judge, absolutely shocking behaviors from him
Gininda know his story 👋👍
I think we give credit very fast. Remember this guy had 2 prepare all his lies and cover loopholes
Gininda is cruising
Yes he is the creator of it😅 that why
@@alittamolala7011for now
his story or 'his cteativity'?
It's quite interesting for a judge to ask the police that were any abuse,biting and assualt ever made on the accussed and expect a positive response. A normal perso can incriminate him/herself? This judge is playing marbles.
Gininda is mastermind
If the 5 accused can be sentenced for this case because of Gininda and Zungu then the Meyiwa family will not be happy at all
It's not about their "happiness", it's about JUSTICE!
That will be justice, the family doesn’t know the murders they where not there. If this guys are the ones found guilty they have to accept and stop their witch hunt
@@ncedisakhewuit's not about their happiness?
@ncedisakhewu what justice is that abokelly still rooming outside nidakiwe Nina someone who kill Senzo was there in that spaza shop house
You are right because the wrong people are punished for no reason
Mngomezulu was unprepared to cross examine Gininda today
How?
@@iconiclizfizz805 Why he was asking for postponement? Even the issue of J50 boom 💥 💥 💥 Ramosepele had J50 long time ago and didn't tell Mngomezulu about it. I hope you are covered now.
No am not actually. Do you even know how Advocates work?
You tell me how they work
Exactly, the poor man ended up being called out by the judge because of his incompetent colleague
“Extemporaneously and contemporaneously”the judge was doing very well as always in keeping order and progression as for mngomezu should prepare better coz he is absolutely done better than the shivering Ramosepele but him crying today was just too low👎🏽lol the joke by Ramosepele rejuvenated the court mood at the end 🤣🤣🤣🤣Brigadier Ginida 🙏🏽🙏🏽man of the match 👏🏿👏🏿your an absolute gem 🤞🏽👌🏽
Brigadiri is not just a deployment but proper merit appointment 👌
This Judge is a buyer's he must be removed,he's a witness not a judge
I'm worried ka Ratha his actions,the smile he gave Gininda before they adjourned today,says a lot.
1000000% agree
@@gjmnmn I was so heartbroken and dissapointed watching him and I silently said "really"He can't even hide who his favorite is.
EI YOU CAN SAY THATAND CAMERA MN MAKE SURE THAT SIYABONA
@@ZandileKhwela TRUE
I hate the laughter when Mngo makes a mistake
Am getting mad when i looking at this judge
Go drink water u not so smart friend
I get so mad! I think for my own sanity, I should stop watching this trial. Ratha is such a nuisance, he is so annoying!😢
Not more than me mntase...😢😢😢
@@veliswagalela2348me too guys
Gininda uyayazi indaba aze ngayo. Adv Mngomezulu uya zama to match kodwa uyahluleka…
Yoh I'm worried about Mr Mngomezulu's health.
Judge Ratha is sometimes rude and the defense is obliged to be respectful at all times. It's becoming tense. The defense finds it hard to do it's work.
Ratha you are annoying struu, too forward with everything. You are one of the witnesses
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Mngomezulu,you representing liars,so far they even struggled with their own names,and their family members identities, Brig Gininda knows exactly what he's talking about,u
🤣hayi mngomezulu is just wasting time yaaa last kick of the dying horse.but anyways .can this case finish now? Yooo !!!.but defense I heard that its you strategy to run after after state witness irregularities for you to win the case. Hope Baloi is is aware,as defense has nothing to write home for.only thing about Gininda I have essues with us 2014 Case file
Meyiwa family must forget getting justice here. The judge keeps on interjecting its appaling !! Its just annoying to the core😏 Thank you Mngoh for standing your ground. I feel for you. Its so sad.
I agree "thousand million times" 😅 "I can put my head on the block" 😅 probably ratha's interference aggravated advocate Mngo's health he's been evidently not well and he was very angry yesterday. ratha was busy reading the charge sheet while Mngo was consulting with the accused that's so low of this 50 years experience judge, so apoling
Ey lelijaji,
The judge is so easily irritated that he ends up making unnecessary sounds and comments.This is a result of over-concentration.
There is a valid reason why at 60yrs we must all retire.. and I guess one of them is exactly what he is doing.
@@buyixaba6024just look at him when witness is talking its looks like he wants to talk and admit no lobaba ngeke
Gininda is the mastermind of this case
Gininda is much cleverer than the lawyer
This zulu lawyers confuse him self.Dom soos grond
Awu bantu justice for Senzo
EI ASIKOHLWENI GYS KUTHI SOKE SIBUTHOLE UBULUNGISWA IF KUSAHAMBA KANJE
Senzo was a married man running around with Kelly and upsetting his wife, with lies and empty promises!
@@legran25it that mean o Longwe n Kelly they must kill him?????
Koda kukodwa engikwaziyo uJehova uyakwazi ukusula izinyembezi zeminyaka zabazitshela ukuthi bahlakaniphile kunaye🙏kophela konke kuboshwe ihlakaniphi 🤔
Namanje... akukho qili lazikhotha emhlane unomphela
Mngomezulu doesn’t take this case serious. He has never came to court fully prepared
True
This judge is out of order. Please ratharatha stop this nonsense please this is rubbish. You are disrespectful of the public
Spaeking English proper does not mean you know your job nor you are intelligence. This guy will be tested as this decorum is in progress
Ratha is so sarcastic and annoying
No one is annoying me like this retired judge
Don't u thnk this 5 accused are killers?
Don't u thnk this 5 accused are killers?
@@iceadaprince5394 they might be killers but they didn't kill senzo meyiwa
Jonga udika nyani loTata
@@iceadaprince5394no they are worshipers 😂