I LOVE that you're using old hollywood women as examples, it brings such a timeless element to the topic of beauty.. so many of our current trends are made for artificial bodies too (the sportwear trend really requires breast or butt additions with tiny waist etc), so going back to old hollwood is more helpful since the bodies are in their natural state and not drastically changed by surgeries or extreme workout/diet regimens.
I just realised that Faye Dunaways look in Bonnie and Clyde is one of my favourites on me. I didn't realise it was because I am a dramatic. Makes so much sense now. Thank you for doing these reviews, Ally! I felt like a weird giant in my clothes for a long time but since I understand how to work with my body instead of against it I feel better and better :)
I love how naturally beautiful Faye Dunaway was back in the 60s. I truly love how they put emphasis on her natural bone structure, a groomed arch, and athletic frame. Her long and short skirts are balanced with her long legs are show off her ankles. She just looks so pouty, sweet and classy in one go. It's just my opinion but I think too much makeup competes with her beauty.
Thank you for choosing her for Dramatics!! I always admired her... she is not "pretty", but hell of sophisticated. Nothing can look cheap or tacky on her. That's the advantage of being Dramatic! Very proud of being part of this tribe 😂
Faye Dunaway is such a phenomenal actress...her performance in Network as the toxic, heartless, power hungry tv producer is one of the greatest female performances ever!
Masterclass as always, spasipo. Faye Dunaway and I share one secret: We have this beautifully elongated face with a well shaped, strong jawline but our eyes are relatively up high positioned on it, which means that the lower part of our faces, below our eyes looks longer and bigger, while the upper part, the forehead narrower. And her hooded eyes look narrower to her face too. So you need to open up these eyes and look bigger BUT also lower their positioning DOWN to make the face more proportioned. Well, she always emphasize lower lashes in her make up, uses tricks to open her eyes by bringing down her lower lashline (see her 60’s bw photo w/ JP Belmondo. being the most extravagant but always the same effect). She also looks better with her straight brows which add to her face this horizontal width and cut it to look shorter -rather than these higher, upwardly rounded or arched brows which are the golden standard for most faces; such thin trimmed brows make her look older too. We may also notice that in her hairstyles too: She doesn’t cover her forehead or always uses diagonal parts, lines not to shorten this upper part of her face. And now these eyeglasses can make you a sense: Referring to your video about it, Yes, these are the faces these pilot glasses are made for. You notice well that her glasses are ovals but always downward, dropping the eyes position down and covering more places on the larger down part of the face. These oval frames mimics also her jawline and accentuates her structure, her own frame.
Thank you Aly for another great video! You showed a shot of Faye with a large leather bag under her arm and a Tyrolian style hat which from another of her iconic movies, 'Chinatown' that came out in 1974. The setting of the movie was late 1930s Los Angeles which was a very different era stylewise from the early 1930s in the American Midwest. I'm sure there are more of her looks from that movie online. Cheers!
Dunaway is beautiful and fabulous! She obviously has had a ton of plastic surgery. I think it changed her natural beauty-wish she had a lot less surgery; I don't think it served her well. She is an amazing actress though. I think her Chinatown look is her best look and fits her Dramatic type perfectly. Ally great video, but I think you are remiss not to discuss her Chinatown look. Also a very iconic look for her.
She's SN for sure, she look tall and also can carry enlongated lines very easily. However for a long time she wore pretty much gamine/SG lines. And she looks great as well, but SG lines are not native to her body. Like her essence (the delicate and frily stuff) go well, but not the lines chosen.
@@ninna11 I thought about that too, but what caught my eye was a picture of him in a suit on a beach, and his hair was curly and tousled in the wind. There was also a scarf, and I thought that suited him. Then again facial hair doesn't suit him imo, and that's a classic feature. Could be either & I saw people suggesting Soft Natural on reddit.
@@beebikinis oh yes I agree with you. Facial hair really didn't suit him. I never thought about it but it's really classic feature. Jon Hamm is contemporary dramatic classic and he looks much better without facial hair. Soft Classic and Soft Natural look alike a bit to me. Since you really understand body types could you recognize one of Milos Bikovic? I'm thinking he is Soft Natural or some Classic. He is 6'2'' (188 cm).
@@ninna11 I'm still learning, especially typing men 😄 Milos' face reads very Yin to me, but he's also very tall. I don't see much width that's required for Naturals. He suits facial hair, and it brings out even more of that softness in him. I'm not sure how height affects male types, but since he's sharp and romantic at the same time, a bit narrow, without being a Dramatic, maybe he's Teathrical Romantic? He even has a natural beauty mark. I think his best looks I found are TR; in both pics he has a double breasted suit with intricate details. One jacket is velvet (luxurious), with a silver tie (sheen), with a red pocket square (detail) and he also has a row of cufflinks (jewellery). In the other he has a petrol shirt layered with a tie, the jacket is light weight fabric (romantic) and at the cuffs there's a silver lining (sheen, detail.)
Would having size 8.5 feet and being 5'5" rule out certain kibbe types like romantic and classic? I think my feet and hand are average but maybe 8.5 feet for 5"5" height is considered big
Would you be able to help me please? I can't figure out if i'm a romantic, theatrical romantic or a soft gamine. everything that i've seen about being a soft gamine has related to me as well as also being shorter than any of the romantic types (4'11'') and have straighter legs, arms etc but with fleshiness, have less of a womanly essence etc. My face has been compared to ariana grandes a lot and can see the bone structure resemblance, flesh is similar, and I also have big eyes and lips. I think I have tapered shoulders and if not tapered then curved but broad. I do have an hourglass figure but i'm not skinny and can't seem to figure out how I would look without it. When I look at pictures of myself from when I was about 3-6 I can see my shoulders are sloped - can you tell your kibbe from that age?
I think your vertical line gives you already a lot of information about « how to dress ». Short vertical line = short lines and cropped clothes, Long vertical lines = longs lines (pants, coat, skirt, dress). Medium lines is basically knee length skirt, jackets that stops at the hip bone, pants that stops at the ankle. Another thing that can help you : do you look better with tousled hair or sleek/neat hair ? The first category is gamines or naturals and they look better with mix and match/ separates clothings. The second category, romantics, classics and dramatics, looks better in head to toe ensemble and monochromatic looks. These are some « practical » tips inspired by this system but if you want to find your type I’d say your bone structure is the most important (like said earlier). Because classics can wear soft or dramatic classic without it look to weird, same things with all the types.
I think also is the first thing some one see about your body : your vertical line ? Your voluptuous curves ? Your petite ness ? Your wide horizontal line ? Your angles ? Your softness/roundness (not if you are overweight or not) ? Nothing of that ?
@@katemaconeil7087 I think I have type closest to Audrey Hepburn. I am 5'7", but I have very small frame. Even when I am not trying to lose weight I am size 0. Tossed hair looks better on me. Slick hairdos doesn't look too good. I have small feet and hands and soft face. But body is more angular. So my height is confusing me. :)
I find this confusing. When I think of 100% dramatic, I think of a long and narrow bone structure. Faye doesn’t strike me as narrow at all. My guess would have been Dramatic Classic or Dramatic Natural.
Yeah her summaries of each decade's fashion is very general, though I get what she means. Like a lot of the long loose silhouette that she refers to as 70s originated and were significantly popular in the 1960s.
I think she means silhouettes and colors. Makeup could be piled on and the clothes were sometimes synthetic. But the 60s and 80s had more graphic lines and bold colors.
She is talking about Faye here and her style didint include the disco look. But it would be great to see some celebrity that was a Studio 54 style icon like Diana Ross, Jerry Hall or Bianca Jagger. I would also like to see an style icon from the seventies New York punk scene - Debbie Harry or Pattie Smith they didint follow trends they made them.
I don't think she has yin, it must be her essence that confuses people just like Taylor Swift does. She has a face with a very delicate classic vibe (I don't know much about essence so I don't know the correct name for it) but her cheeks remind me of Sofia Loren (SD)
faye dunaway's face was not dramatic at all, in fact, large eyes and big lips. not buying the dramatic for her face at all. and her body, well in the sixties celebrities dieted themselves into oblivion anyway. yet again aly art trying to justify david kibbed's no matter whether it makes sense or not
I'm dramatic with huge eyes and lips . kibbe no longer uses facial features as an indicator but rather the overall bone structure. btw dramatic women can look beautiful and feminine. we're not ugly human sticks
I LOVE that you're using old hollywood women as examples, it brings such a timeless element to the topic of beauty.. so many of our current trends are made for artificial bodies too (the sportwear trend really requires breast or butt additions with tiny waist etc), so going back to old hollwood is more helpful since the bodies are in their natural state and not drastically changed by surgeries or extreme workout/diet regimens.
If Alyona ever comes to Edmonton, she can come to my house and I'll teach her my version of 18 and life
could you do posing for body types? that would be awesome
That would be a wonderful video.
Great idea!
I have always thought of that! I feel like people on the drier side like me feel kind of akward in very sensual, innocent, kind of Marylin poses.
I love being a Dramatic
I love people that look intimidating! Dramatics are so striking. :)
I’m a dramatic and I really don’t like it 😢
Faye Dunaway as Bonnie is such a legendary look. One of my all time favourites.
Very clear analysis of the dramatic spirit, and a great choice of star to consider.
Thank you Susan )))
I just realised that Faye Dunaways look in Bonnie and Clyde is one of my favourites on me. I didn't realise it was because I am a dramatic. Makes so much sense now. Thank you for doing these reviews, Ally! I felt like a weird giant in my clothes for a long time but since I understand how to work with my body instead of against it I feel better and better :)
I love how naturally beautiful Faye Dunaway was back in the 60s. I truly love how they put emphasis on her natural bone structure, a groomed arch, and athletic frame. Her long and short skirts are balanced with her long legs are show off her ankles. She just looks so pouty, sweet and classy in one go. It's just my opinion but I think too much makeup competes with her beauty.
Thank you for choosing her for Dramatics!! I always admired her... she is not "pretty", but hell of sophisticated. Nothing can look cheap or tacky on her. That's the advantage of being Dramatic! Very proud of being part of this tribe 😂
Faye Dunaway is such a phenomenal actress...her performance in Network as the toxic, heartless, power hungry tv producer is one of the greatest female performances ever!
I think it’s great you go with old time Hollywood most of them hadn’t had work done.
VERY comprehensive....loved how you really were so accurate about the decades and how she adapted over time...I lived those decades..
This is my absolutely favourite series ❤❤❤
Thank you Aly for another very well done and professional video! You are the best! I'm looking forward to see one video on Theatrical Romantic!
Masterclass as always, spasipo. Faye Dunaway and I share one secret: We have this beautifully elongated face with a well shaped, strong jawline but our eyes are relatively up high positioned on it, which means that the lower part of our faces, below our eyes looks longer and bigger, while the upper part, the forehead narrower. And her hooded eyes look narrower to her face too. So you need to open up these eyes and look bigger BUT also lower their positioning DOWN to make the face more proportioned. Well, she always emphasize lower lashes in her make up, uses tricks to open her eyes by bringing down her lower lashline (see her 60’s bw photo w/ JP Belmondo. being the most extravagant but always the same effect). She also looks better with her straight brows which add to her face this horizontal width and cut it to look shorter -rather than these higher, upwardly rounded or arched brows which are the golden standard for most faces; such thin trimmed brows make her look older too. We may also notice that in her hairstyles too: She doesn’t cover her forehead or always uses diagonal parts, lines not to shorten this upper part of her face. And now these eyeglasses can make you a sense: Referring to your video about it, Yes, these are the faces these pilot glasses are made for. You notice well that her glasses are ovals but always downward, dropping the eyes position down and covering more places on the larger down part of the face. These oval frames mimics also her jawline and accentuates her structure, her own frame.
Aly you should analyze Jane Fonda the Soft Natural icon 🤗
Thank you Aly for another great video! You showed a shot of Faye with a large leather bag under her arm and a Tyrolian style hat which from another of her iconic movies, 'Chinatown' that came out in 1974. The setting of the movie was late 1930s Los Angeles which was a very different era stylewise from the early 1930s in the American Midwest. I'm sure there are more of her looks from that movie online. Cheers!
You always do such a great job with your research and presentation.
Thanks for the video. As a Dramatic I appreciate your work. 💜
Dunaway is beautiful and fabulous! She obviously has had a ton of plastic surgery. I think it changed her natural beauty-wish she had a lot less surgery; I don't think it served her well. She is an amazing actress though. I think her Chinatown look is her best look and fits her Dramatic type perfectly. Ally great video, but I think you are remiss not to discuss her Chinatown look. Also a very iconic look for her.
Loved it!😃🤗 are you planning on doing an ingenue type video? Maybe comparing it with soft gamine?
Thank you so much for doing this series! I learn so much from your videos and appreciate the time and research you put in to each one.
This is a great series, thanks Aly! Could you analyze Jackie Kennedy Onassis for us Dramatic Classics please?
Very inspiering! Learning a lot from your observations and your keen eye. Thank you.
Beautiful. Aly, please do Ursula Andress. She’s got the elegance of Dunnaway’s Face. High cheekbones structure.
It would be really in to see the style breakdown of Anjelica Huston
If we can please get a video on 'expensive' looking turtle necks or basics in general that would be awesome .... thank you xx
I would love a Carey Mulligan style video, especially because I've seen her classified as both soft gaming and soft natural.
She's SN for sure, she look tall and also can carry enlongated lines very easily. However for a long time she wore pretty much gamine/SG lines. And she looks great as well, but SG lines are not native to her body. Like her essence (the delicate and frily stuff) go well, but not the lines chosen.
Hi, another very interesting Video! Aly, the haircut Suits you good.
This is so interesting. Love the 60s style.
Love your insights! A great series 😍
Love your videos
There's so little information online about how Kibbe actually works within styling it's a hate crime.
I would love a Sharon Tate style review♥️
I can’t understand why she is not a dramatic classic 🧐
She has long vertical line + strong bone structure, very angular + not yin enough (not balenced )
Yes ! I have the same feeling about her she looks balanced with yang influence for me DC or SD
Please make a “body type” about Greer Garson! Lana Turner said that Greer had the widest hips in MGM!
Can you do Cher?
Can't wait for the Marilyn video
Pretty please do Ava Gardner! 🙏
Could you make a video about Jane Fonda? Love your videos ❤😘
Can someone tell me which type was Faye's ex partner and famous Italian actor, Marcello Mastroianni? They started in one movie together.
He's some Yin dominant type, I think Romantic.
@@beebikinis yes, he is yin dominant but he looked absolutely amazing in tailored suits (just like Cary Grant did) so I thought about Soft Classic.
@@ninna11 I thought about that too, but what caught my eye was a picture of him in a suit on a beach, and his hair was curly and tousled in the wind. There was also a scarf, and I thought that suited him. Then again facial hair doesn't suit him imo, and that's a classic feature. Could be either & I saw people suggesting Soft Natural on reddit.
@@beebikinis oh yes I agree with you. Facial hair really didn't suit him. I never thought about it but it's really classic feature. Jon Hamm is contemporary dramatic classic and he looks much better without facial hair. Soft Classic and Soft Natural look alike a bit to me. Since you really understand body types could you recognize one of Milos Bikovic? I'm thinking he is Soft Natural or some Classic. He is 6'2'' (188 cm).
@@ninna11 I'm still learning, especially typing men 😄 Milos' face reads very Yin to me, but he's also very tall. I don't see much width that's required for Naturals. He suits facial hair, and it brings out even more of that softness in him. I'm not sure how height affects male types, but since he's sharp and romantic at the same time, a bit narrow, without being a Dramatic, maybe he's Teathrical Romantic? He even has a natural beauty mark. I think his best looks I found are TR; in both pics he has a double breasted suit with intricate details. One jacket is velvet (luxurious), with a silver tie (sheen), with a red pocket square (detail) and he also has a row of cufflinks (jewellery). In the other he has a petrol shirt layered with a tie, the jacket is light weight fabric (romantic) and at the cuffs there's a silver lining (sheen, detail.)
Would having size 8.5 feet and being 5'5" rule out certain kibbe types like romantic and classic? I think my feet and hand are average but maybe 8.5 feet for 5"5" height is considered big
No, I am a pure dramatic. With hands the size of a 5'0 woman or child 😆
Would you be able to help me please? I can't figure out if i'm a romantic, theatrical romantic or a soft gamine. everything that i've seen about being a soft gamine has related to me as well as also being shorter than any of the romantic types (4'11'') and have straighter legs, arms etc but with fleshiness, have less of a womanly essence etc. My face has been compared to ariana grandes a lot and can see the bone structure resemblance, flesh is similar, and I also have big eyes and lips. I think I have tapered shoulders and if not tapered then curved but broad. I do have an hourglass figure but i'm not skinny and can't seem to figure out how I would look without it. When I look at pictures of myself from when I was about 3-6 I can see my shoulders are sloped - can you tell your kibbe from that age?
And Brigitte Bardot.
Yeah, some of those pics were bridget.
Your Pinterest links were dead when I tried
She HAS to listen to my version of 18 and life to sing said song in Edmonton
If you STILL can't determine your body type, what wouldn't be the most important detail to finally determined your type?
Probably bone structure
I think your vertical line gives you already a lot of information about « how to dress ». Short vertical line = short lines and cropped clothes, Long vertical lines = longs lines (pants, coat, skirt, dress). Medium lines is basically knee length skirt, jackets that stops at the hip bone, pants that stops at the ankle.
Another thing that can help you : do you look better with tousled hair or sleek/neat hair ?
The first category is gamines or naturals and they look better with mix and match/ separates clothings. The second category, romantics, classics and dramatics, looks better in head to toe ensemble and monochromatic looks.
These are some « practical » tips inspired by this system but if you want to find your type I’d say your bone structure is the most important (like said earlier). Because classics can wear soft or dramatic classic without it look to weird, same things with all the types.
I think also is the first thing some one see about your body : your vertical line ? Your voluptuous curves ? Your petite ness ? Your wide horizontal line ? Your angles ? Your softness/roundness (not if you are overweight or not) ? Nothing of that ?
@@katemaconeil7087 I think I have type closest to Audrey Hepburn. I am 5'7", but I have very small frame. Even when I am not trying to lose weight I am size 0. Tossed hair looks better on me. Slick hairdos doesn't look too good. I have small feet and hands and soft face. But body is more angular. So my height is confusing me. :)
@@katemaconeil7087 Great tip! 🙏🏻
I find this confusing. When I think of 100% dramatic, I think of a long and narrow bone structure. Faye doesn’t strike me as narrow at all. My guess would have been Dramatic Classic or Dramatic Natural.
there is no such thing like dramatic natural do you mean flamboyant natural
I was thinking the same thing. But when you look at her she looks stronger than Classics and too sharp to be a Natural.
I don't think she's Dramatic, either, she's not tall/vertical enough and her features are too doll-like. I would have guessed Theatrical Romantic.
@@lizzy-wx4rx She's not voluptuous in a narrow frame. She has moderate curves on a sharp frame, with a long vertical.
I thought she looks DC too.
Aly, I’d love to see you pick some non-white celebrities too! Thank you!
AND whIch type is SHaron STONE ? :D ..AND bRITNEY sPEARS?
Sharon- Classic, Britney- Soft Natural
The 70s disco scene was very unnatural for fabrics and makeup.
Yeah her summaries of each decade's fashion is very general, though I get what she means. Like a lot of the long loose silhouette that she refers to as 70s originated and were significantly popular in the 1960s.
I think she means silhouettes and colors. Makeup could be piled on and the clothes were sometimes synthetic. But the 60s and 80s had more graphic lines and bold colors.
She is talking about Faye here and her style didint include the disco look. But it would be great to see some celebrity that was a Studio 54 style icon like Diana Ross, Jerry Hall or Bianca Jagger. I would also like to see an style icon from the seventies New York punk scene - Debbie Harry or Pattie Smith they didint follow trends they made them.
@@krisfur4823 yes! Those are fabulous suggestions! I wonder what she would say about Cher? Cher in her Sonny Bono days?
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I feel like I see some yin in her but I can’t really put my finger on it,,,, but she definitely doesn’t look like the stereotypical dramatic to me
I don't think she has yin, it must be her essence that confuses people just like Taylor Swift does. She has a face with a very delicate classic vibe (I don't know much about essence so I don't know the correct name for it) but her cheeks remind me of Sofia Loren (SD)
@@plasticlove8114 Maybe she is SD ? I have some Diva vibe from her
Could have sworn she's dramatic classic. Like the ultimate, textbook dc
NO WIRED HANGERS EVER ! ! ! 😡
faye dunaway's face was not dramatic at all, in fact, large eyes and big lips. not buying the dramatic for her face at all. and her body, well in the sixties celebrities dieted themselves into oblivion anyway. yet again aly art trying to justify david kibbed's no matter whether it makes sense or not
I'm dramatic with huge eyes and lips . kibbe no longer uses facial features as an indicator but rather the overall bone structure. btw dramatic women can look beautiful and feminine. we're not ugly human sticks
@@everything5066 dont shoot the messenger! I'm just quoting Aly art and david kibbe here! this is more reason that that 'system' is a total croc
@@everything5066thank you 😅 everyone thinks we look like tilda swinton. Far from it 😂
She looks DC or SD for me . I see yin influence