And making the BOS knights use that monstrosity of a rifle in the TV show was also a crime, one of many, they really couldn't just make a dozen laser rifle props. And relocating Shady Sands just to nuke it, unreal.
Well, if you want to sell the game in China you have to yellow-wash the lore, like... a lot. Fallout 3 they were still okay with it, but Fallout 4 was very much "toe the line".
@@darkowl9 Then they could've just removed that rifle from the Chinese version of the game. Similar to how the German copy of L4D2 was censored at launch, since then they've been given acces to the uncut version though.
@@Jono_McKto be fair they did sort of canonize it as just a BOS issued machine gun for Power Armor with that move. There's also plenty of weapons shown in use by the NCR as well in the last episode that are actual firearms.
IF the Fallout 4 "Assault rifle" was actually an Assault Machine Gun that had normal barrels with variants as the Infantry Configuration and both of the Water-cooled OR Air-cooled Barrels(implication is, separated cooling systems for variety) as the Infantry Confuguration that would be MUCH better. Also, an American Assault rifle(Stoner 63 platform, perhaps?) and the Chinese Assault rifle and pistol along with more awesome options would be great. Ammo variants in energy and ballistic ammunition would have been great, as well as the expansion of weapons arsenal to be used. Example, Laser pistol for the Small Energy Cells and Plasma Pistol for the Small Plasma Cartridges and stuff like proper handguns for pistol calibers, machine pistol calibers and revolvers, plus Handcannons as Power armor or High strength stat weapons, stuff like that. more shotguns, not just the double action and combat rifle, but also stuff like break actions for handgun only shotgun versions, plus various shotgun bore ammo versions of a lot of stuff. Pump action, lever action, semi auto only shogun variants would be great to have as well. the Not-Taurus Judge would have perfect as a shotgun option as well as a .45 long colt option. LMG for shotgun shells as well. Pistol Caliber carbines, more SMGs, more LMGs(laser and plasma LMG platforms could have been a thing to add in vanilla), stuff like repurposed mining equipment like a two handed drilling device used for autmated melee or a gauntlet with a drill ala Bioshock 2 Big Daddy protagonist melee would also work, laser cutter as a energy beam handgun and two handed heavy weapon beam cannon type also good idea. more glorious additions to the arsenal would have been great!
If you look into the Fallout 4 art book you can see that the designers had a lot of "dark and gritty" ideas that were pushed aside because Bethesda was going for a destroyed 50's city of the future feel for Boston. Fallout 76 already feels a lot more grounded than 4.
The reason the concept art is different is because the art direction lead passed away during concept phase. So they went with a different direction. It's definitely not as good as 3 NV or even aspects of 76. F4 is the ugliest fallout by far, but it still has some redeeming qualitys
@@Mr.Unfair There are a whole 8 pages of Adam's concept art/scribbles in the book mostly as a tribute to him. Then the rest 355ish pages are made by other artists. Im unsurprisingly referring to those images.
I still like how fallout new Vegas and fallout 2 showed humanity rebuilding and creating new cities instead of Bethesdas version which shows humanity regressing to a more medieval society with settlements that don’t like working together
Yeah from a game standpoint I agree with Bethesda, it makes for a more fun game and in the event it really happened that is probably more than likely what would happen. Fallout 4 was the best it was a good shooter and had just enough rpg elements to satisfy the old school players not to mention it was made with modding in mind which kept it alive and even more popular than 76
> more medieval society Fallout New Vegas literally had a faction of roman cosplayers, you can say whatever you want about Bethesda's games, but that's the dumbest complaint I've heard about in a long time
@@nugget6820Most ( 98% of them) of Legion didn't even knew they were larping. If they were from bethesda (ha tfu) game they would be fully aware of that + 3/4 of things that were making them cool and unique would be cut.
Yeah I dislike how they forgot that Ghouls were described as perpetually ROTTING beings. They heal from radiation, but it never advances past rot. I mean I could understand Project Purity making that healing improve.
The weirdest part is that Fallout 3 got it right, only for 4 to completely forget about this. Bethesda got it right the first time yet for some reason got it wrong afterwards...how?
old fallout: what people in 1997 thought people in 1950 thought 2077 would look like and then it got nuked and now it’s 2161 and people are rebuilding new fallout: rundown 1950s idiocracy theme park
It's what the masses crave, or so we're told. They've also defanged their own franchise, just look at how the weird and imaginative world of Morrowind compares to Oblivion and Skyrim. Leadership today seems just as simple as the average consumer, perfect for the job if you wanna make money. It was great while it lasted, will always be a part of me, but the only way is forward to the next great piece of art not yet corrupted by capital.
Bingo, I was wondering when someone would point out the drop between Morrowind and Oblivion! It was like the very soul got sucked out of the franchise for me and became generic fantasy franchise overnight!@@kosmati4569
old enough to have played them all, a friend I play 76 with conspire that there's still 1 good designer left sneaking in old style fallout content into 76 but he's locked in a basement. Until he's free'd we deal with the circus crap lol
that guy stuck in the basement is TheFriedTurkey, a modder Bethesda plucked up to do modeling work, the plasma caster and fallout 1 brotherhood bunker object are two examples of things he’s designed for 76
It’s not just Fallout, every modern game feels like the development white board had the words; EPICSAUCE, COLOURFUL, MARVEL-LIKE, SARCASTIC, and VIRAL surrounding the games title.
Adam adamowitz died that's what happened. He was the concept artist for Fallout 3 and TES V: Skyrim, we miss him dearly. Happy he fulfilled his dream and worked on two of the most beloved games of all time. RIP Adam We appreciate your work and love of video games. Cheers all.
Fallout 3's art style was shite though! I mean fair play and RIP and all that, but ascribing the turd in the hamper that was the aesthetics of F3 as a success for the fellow is just disingenuous and the height of bad taste.
@@WeWillAlwaysHaveVALIS The phonebooth bomb-shelter was a concept made solely by Adamowicz, there's hundreds of pages he personally drew of ideas he just had for the setting. You don't try adding new things to something on top of your already heavy workload unless you're excited and proud to be a part of it.
I like how your comment is saying how great 3 looked, but the comment directly above yours says Bethesda never understood what Fallout truly was like Interplay did with 1 and 2. Lol
Fallout since 4 doesn't look like a nuclear apocalypse, it looks like if society just broke down and the commonwealth delapitated naturally in 200 years. In Fallout 3 the first town you see is completely destroyed, Concord and Sanctuary just look abandoned with the occasional collapsed house. DC felt like a nuked city, the whole thing was a pile of mangled steel and concrete you had to drudge through. Boston is borderline pristine in comparison. Fallout 76 is even worse in this regard but there at least you have the excuse that nobody bothered to nuke West Virginia directly.
DC is the capitol of the USA so it makes sense it would be the most destroyed. In addition Fallout 76 takes place 25 years after so it wouldn't be as badly decayed as if it was 200 years after the bombs.
@@Badookum They are rebuilding but capital wasteland is just not a good place to settle so you are not getting a representative picture of what the state of the resettling effort is. There is also a popular theory with much supporting evidence that fallout 3 was meant to take place 30ish years after the great war which would help explain the state its at better, because all the art teams were actually told to make it look like it had just been blown up.
@@Badookum what is this stupid low IQ logic anyways? What law in the universe dictate that after X amount of years, the "wasteland" must be rebuilt. And who is to stay they aren't rebuilding when their progression to civilization is just extremely slow that one would easily mistaken them to be stagnant? Does the term"wasteland" mean anything to a fallout fans? Like I understand that the average fallout fans are just average joe but this ain't rocket science either. Don't just repeat the echo that you heard in your chamber, think about it like a human being, not a monkey.
Also worth pointing out that they used tim burtons 1989 batman movie as inspiration for the artstyle and some scenes too. Especially for the city designs and several scenes such as the goo dipping scene.
Fallout 1 & 2 were fucking incredible. It has gradually lost its soul with each release since. Bethesda just had a rudimentary grasp of what Fallout was, they don't do depth very well. The best description of it I heard was "Interplay made Fallout, a game about the world that was built from the rubble of nuclear armageddon. Bethesda made Fallout thinking it was about the rubble. "
Well not only with Fallout 4 all their games started off filled with content and choices and dark stuff and it was about you playing your character making your own choices and suffering the consequences to it NOW it's just whatever the great Todd Howard wants is what's gonna happen and you cannot kill main characters cause that's how the great Todd Howard wants HIS story told I'm afraid every game they release now is just gonna be another variation of Skyrim cause the formula is still being used hence why Fallout 4 has no roleplaying and Starfield is just Skyrim in space
I mean to be fair. Even back in the day people would have called you crazy for putting two on the same pedestal as one. People really forget how much wacky and silly stuff was into that was actually stripped out when Bethesda made fallout 3 but slowly brought back into the franchise
Fallout 2 is literally just every popular 80s movie aesthetic jumbled together and going " OMG LOOK AT THIS POP CULTURE REFERENCE! " It's soulless. You read as a zoomer whose entire opinion of Fallout is from youtube video essays or a millennial with rose tinted glasses
@johnclay2716 nah I'm a millennial and New Vegas will always be my favorite (unless fallout 5 or 6 are just mindblowing, which I doubt. Obsidian does Fallout way better than Bethesda)
Adam Adamowicz was also the mastermind behind Shivering Isles' art direction. His concept arts from that DLC were some of the best I have ever seen and honestly he shaped the unique feeling of the expansion. Still one of the best DLCs I have ever played. His art was as beautiful and disturbing as Michael Kirkbride's creations were. Truly a legend.
The opening with the butterflies and the talk with Sheogorath, I used to rush to the DLC on a new charachter because I never cared to do the boring imperials main questline.
Shivering Isles is basically a standalone game considering how much it brings to the table. No wonder lots of people thinks it's the best DLC of all time.
@@DasFork Every content that is additional to some game is a DLC including expansion packs. You may purchase shivering isles on disc but it still requires oblivion which makes it a DLC.
@@dazady452001 "Fallout has always been..." No, not to this degree. Not even close and I'm sick of all this historical revisionism. Where are people pulling this meme from? It's the same card the Fallout: Frontier developers pulled when defending their product
"Waoh this heckin deathclaw is so scary that he dodges left and right giving me more time to shoot. Deathclaws are heckin scary" while ignoring the quiet and beelining deathclaws in Fallout 3 and NV which made them actually scary. Like just imagine a 12' tall lizard monster that makes no sound until he takes a swipe at you... now that's scary
Bethesda never understood Fallout, Bethesda turned Fallout into a theme park. I saw some Fallout 76 boss fight footage, a fight against a giant snake, and it seemed like something from World of Warcraft.
@@a.monach7602 nice strawman you're doing over there. Fallout 2 went over the top with a lot of stuff and there's a very good reason why they cut the mutant raccoons from Fallout 1.
One thing that always stucked with me was that in Fallout 1, since cars didn't work, they reporpoused them and used the trunks as carts. I never played through 3 or 4, because I find them boring, but I don't remember them ever reusing this idea.
Yeah, I agree. That idea was sadly never used again, presumably cos it would cause issue with two entities following one another. The closest thing we've gotten is new Vegas using actual regular carts as set dressing.
People had the opposite complaints about the older games. I know because I was actually alive the games released. People used to say they were too bland.
I’d say my personal favourite version of fallouts art style is the 3 & New Vegas styles. It feels like the perfect mix between the 50s retrofuturism of the newer games and the pure bleak atmosphere in the older games. Hell, fallout 3 looks absolutely depressing for an environment despite the lighter tone. If you put the same ambience from the original games into 3 then you’d straight up have a faithful fallout 3 (in terms of atmosphere, writing is something else)
fun fact, the game used indexed images (instead of full RGB(A), pixels of every sprite are just a single byte (0...255) that maps to an array of 256 RGB colors), but the values of colors in that palette don't go above 63 in any channel for some reason. So everything is ¼ of how bright it could be and is then somehow adjusted to be brighter in the game. The game IS LITERALLY dark XD
Sure, let's ignore that Interplay did even worse in Fallout: Brotherhood of steel, which was a final nail in the coffin of the the old fallout franchise.
@@youarealwayscorrect Insane strawman, the foundation of Fallout made by Black Isle was amazing, Bethesda has done nothing but destroy the series and dumb it down for the lowest common denominator.
@@youarealwayscorrect Not only that but Black Isle was already heading towards bankruptcy which meant they were desperate to chase trends to save their dying company.
'What happened?' Bethesda happened. Artstyle changed completely when they bought the rights to the franchise, especially with the recent releases. Old school Fallout was relatively grimdark and the art direction showed that perfectly. But I personally would argue that Fallout 3 was probably the closest Bethesda got to capturing the look and feel of old Fallout
No. The whole Fallout 3 thing is just giving them way too much credit. Fallout 3 is only faithful in the most shallow way; it is a bigger insult than 4
@@Sul_Opreym But they do. Lighting, animations, shaders, filters. Sure you could make more grim representation, but whats the point if it looks like crap? Fallout 3 looked like the most brown boring game ever with the 'serious' artstyle. It was simply cheaper to make general style look better, rather then rewrite engine to make same brown world not look plastic.
Thats why fallout 3 is nearly perfect, bethesda humour with the original fallout feeling. Everything, the atmosphere is my favorite and the job they did with washington metro was so well made, something i didnt like was Liberty prime and Raiders being just generic goons but its only that besides that everything is perfect
@@supeesanzyou're the first person i ever heard who didn't like Liberty Prime. Better dead than Red! I'm a fan of New Vegas and the originals. I only liked Fallout 3 as its the only good one from Bethesda
It looks close enough. Ultimately the problem wasn't the art style, but what they did with the world. Bethesda built both DC and Boston as giant theme parks rather than locations that made sense.
3's major problems werent really artstyle-related, while I do prefer the style of 1, 2, and NV, 3 does do a pretty decent replicating the gritty early fallout atmosphere, it's issues come down more to the writing and absent or unnuanced black and white ethical dilemmas than anything.
"Just kidding Todd I love you" And you lost me. Todd Howard IS responsible for many of the issues plaguing Bethesda and it's games over the last decade and I am tired of people pretending he isn't. Put the blame where it rightfully belongs and stop treating the man as some kind of savior.
seems like where Fallout 4 went wrong is that in design, "retro-futuristic" and "dark humor/morbidity" (cheerful music playing over brutal massacre etc) are the biggest and only selling points. like a product made to satisfy a need to stay relevant by just giving you better gameplay but more importantly, More Fallout... but without the spirit that gives Fallout its identity. it's less about loyalty to aesthetics and more about the message. like 16:12, there is just something captivating to me about this image. with exceptions of echos of the past like the NCR and the BoS, the progression of humanity as a whole has reset, fallout represents this in a lot of ways like the tribals' repurposing of futuristic armor giving them these primitive looking decorations, making them talk in broken English and caveman babble, depicting them as nothing but dumb savages, but it's as futuristic as it is primitive because humans have adorned their armor forever and always, languages are just as much alive as we are, and morals are just a long-lasting guide on how someone somewhere thinks life should be lived. it's both an example of the strength and ingenuity of humankind and a reminder of the permanent devastation of a total nuclear apocalypse. modern Fallout just doesn't seem like it has anything new to say in that regard. i can only hope the total tonal overhaul of Fallout was done out of respect rather than otherwise
Its callled the Toddification of a franchise. Turning something unique and interesting into the most basic and generic version of itself to appeal to the broadest consumer market possible.
It's the only way they can sell games anymore. They want everything to be squeaky clean for the whole family. All became a reflection of Todd's unerring aura of lameness. @@yewrforstnaymhearyewrlayst5566 Marketing and capitalism are not synonymous terms.
Exactly, the same thing happened with the Elder Scrolls series. A good example is Oblivion, it would have been amazing if they had embraced the Roman aesthetic we see in the imperials in Morrowind (and later in Skyrim), a fantasy Rome RPG would had been so interesting and unique. But then Todd watched Lord of the Rings and Oblivion has just another generic medieval high fantasy setting.
@@yewrforstnaymhearyewrlayst5566 Sounds more like communism where there is no freedom of choice and art is what the leader tells you it is and you have to pretend to like it or off to the gulag. Capitalism would be the best product wins but we are not really in a capitalistic society anymore as we are more in a oligarchy
Best way I can explain why I liked Fallout 3 more than 4: Fallout 3 felt grim, bleak, and depressing (like a real apocalypse), while Fallout 4 felt like a Looney Tunes cartoon.
@@wiwysovaobjectively trash? I would say objectively its a great game, beautiful detailed map, good fps mechanics, cool settlement building, redesigned power armor, and so much more, I would say the issues arrise when you compare it too previous fallout titles, little rpg, upbeat colorful world, ugly gun designs, obvious good and bad factions, etc. Fallout 4 is a great game but a bad fallout game if that makes sense.
@@ramiro7130 I see what you mean. I loved FO 3 and NV, but somehow FO 4 never managed to make me want to play it. I loved the FO tv series though , which seem to have the same esthetics as FO 4.
The only trash between 3 and 4 were the terrible main storyline. They’re basically the same with just the roles reversed. The factions in 4 are half baked, and 3’s factions are cartoonishly good guys and bad guys. And very little choices that leave a genuine impact to the game world.
@ « Very little choice that leave an actual impact on the world. » Hmmm, FO 3 literally ends with a recap of what your choices implied for each faction you have encountered, so I’m not sure what you are meaning with that.
I know the purists don’t like three but it was 4 that took Fallout behind a shed, shot it in the back of the head, and then violated its corpse. 76 made a marionette out of the corpse.
I'll wanted to cut bethesda some slack since they would tend to keep their fallouts on the east coast so they wouldn't ruin the old games' lore but then the show came out and they had the audacity to obliterate the new vegas continuity and lore
My only strain is how did Hank nuke Shady Sands all by himself just to keep his vault citizens from leaving the vault. I'm just gonna save my energy for S2 to give them an explanation (and hopefully not dumb it down).
@@Fred-rv2tu Booo, to the traditional glass bottle. Rocket better, plus it fits with the worldbuilding of companies shoving nuclear panic into every aspect of life. Even the products
GREAT VIDEO! The problem is that most new Fallout players today don't know what the original was and therefore accuse you of being too "boomer" if you point these things out to them. So thanks for explaining it in a simple but convincing way! And let's hope Bethesda sees this video and convince herself to turn back!
You're spot on with what Bethesda turned Fallout into; a goofy saturday morning cartoon themed around "radiation meets the Jetsons", but I think classic Fallout's theme wasn't "greed", but more about the inevitability of war. It doesn't matter what you believe in, what flag you represent, where you were born, who you grew up with, what economic system you follow, what figures you idolize, what time period you lived in; humans will always find a reason to kill one another. To quote the Sniper from TF2; "As long as there's two people left on the planet, someone is gonna want someone dead." I mean, Fallout's tagline (which Bethesda bastardized) is "War. War never changes." not "Greed. Greed never changes."
What? New Vegas wasn't more of the same visual design as 3- It boldly broke new aesthetic ground by swapping everything being grey for everything being yellowish-brownish with occasional orange. Super original and distinctive. But seriously though, I'd say that change alone meant that while New Vegas may be the better game of the two, it does look different, and different for the worse. I'll take all greyish over all brownish any day. As for 4's visual style, say what you will, but I think it was better for adding more color. I'll agree it went overboard with all the different highrise colors in Boston proper, but overall, I think the added color was collectively more steps forward than backward. Other than that though, yeah, I agree it took the retro 50's thing too far overall, and its take on ghouls was just bland. It took away the distinct skinless look and replaced it with... just a more generic kind of burn victim look? So still ugly, but now in a much blander way too. Definitely a design downgrade there.
I find the newer art style easier to play. But i think they should try to merge the two styles. Maybe make the more retrofuturist buildings a bit more decayed/rusted with more of the paint eroded away, add more of the art deco and statues, maybe go for more cloudy skies but definitely abandon the green and tan filters.
I might be in the minority but I like the filters, maybe if they were more dynamic and it changed based on weather patterns. It feels more gritty and cinematic, fallout 4 and 76 feel way too cartoonish and brightly colored, doesn’t fit the vibe I think.
@@coyoteHTKI agree. Everyone blindly hates on different art styles and filters and only wants a vibrant colourful Disney movie look. Now most games have it and it's so boring.
Amazing video, you took the words outta my mouth. Bethesda really went all in on the cartoony 1950's retro-futuristic atompunk aesthetic with Fallout 4. No grit, no dark atmosphere. Now everything is wacky, bubbly, and colorful, but with a little bit of rust on it lol. Also found it especially interesting how you kept mentioning the changes in the guns. Wonder if I influenced that? Haha, good stuff man
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Think your opinion of Fallout's art direction matters the least, seeing your Tarkov Souls of Duty mod lists (that ironically are only identified by the 4 architecture)
The lead artist who worked on Fallout 3 and 4 quit his job and wondered what's the next art style for Fallout will look like Edit: I was referring to Jonah Lobe not Adam. Rest in peace Adam
It was the same guy? damn I thought Fallout 4 had a different art team as it looks nothing like Fallout 3. Fallout 3 still fits in well with the original games some things are missing but the weapons mostly look rather modern the G3, AK looking gun & all look similar enough to what existed in the original games. Fallout 4 just looks wierd. Some parts like the new looks for most creatures look amazing like the death claw & the Bloodbugs. But the guns range from alright to what is this meant to be. The armour generally looks ok a few are a bit cartoony but otherwise fine. But damn does the look of buildings range some look alright others look bizzare, But I feel like if we only assume boston looks like this we should be fine. I wouldn't expect all the cities to look the same Hell New Reno looks very different to the places in California but I think the looks need to feel reasonable. Hoping the next game takes from the good aspects of 76 & brings back older looks for ghouls & Supermutants.
@@Chad-ug5mb He did die before Fallout 4 released so its possible that some of the changes in look are due to as the video says another person designing things. I am guessing he is responsible for most of the good designs in that game & the worse designs are from another person. Wait I just realised who you are talking about. He quit halfway through Fallout 4 from what I remember & the last thing he designed was the Deathclaw as he didn't want to risk someone else doing it & making it something he didn't like. But was he mainly the designer for something in particular like the Creatures & stuff. I don't think I know enough about the development to say for certain this.
As a gamer who played d&d in the seventies and then joined the adult world, I watched my kids play what we now consider the old school games in the nineties. I entered fallout through three when it came out and found it was playable without having to invest huge amounts of time. We can complain about progress (and I do sometimes) but it won’t change anything. I enjoyed three, New Vegas, and four. When the show came out I was a fan and felt like it was a decent continuation of the whole idea. Above all have fun, observe the continuity errors, mine what resonates, and keep in mind that if art is taken seriously it will almost always disappoint.
I prefer the grittier feel, art and gameplay of the original, but new players wouldn’t delve into this UNLESS someone like Larian Studios comes in and make a new isometric Fallout.
As someone who started out on FO3 (and then NV), I feel much more at home with 1 and 2 than with 4. While I don't totally love the isometric gameplay, the art and sound design (which I personally value highly) is preferable to 4 which just went completely off in it's own direction.
Wouldn't trust Larian to do it considering most studios are filled with the people who want personal politics and hangups in. BG3 seemed to avoid being bogged down in it at least.
I did not expect this video to only have 2k views, thought this was from a huge channel with the quality of this video. Great job man, much luck to you in the future
Fallout 3s setting implied a serious atmoshere and a terrifying wasteland, instead you got a relatively lighthearted saviour story (if you ignore the HEV plotline) with relatively superficial and one often one dimensional npcs. In New Vegas you expect a more lighthearted and/or goofy experience and instead get a deeply developed and mostly understandable world full of in depth, interesting characters and places. And a taste of the real horrors a wasteland like fallouts would make prevalent. And then there's Fisto
Lol we've had this conversation 700,000 times and now we’re at the point where we’re calling Fallout 3 lighthearted. I think it’s time to put this subject to rest.
Instant subscription. I fucking love that old sci fi artstyle like old warhammer 40k where everything has a gothic face pasted on it and there’s a bunch of toxic waste barrels everywhere. Every single image i see of fallout 1/2 looks like it would make a terrific diorama. Brilliant video
Majority of the original games world was a desolate wasteland that only really started to rebuild in fallout 2, as the games transitioned to 3D the maps would be boring if they were all empty
@@naitor2594new Vegas easily has the worst 3D map, half the named locations are empty shacks and small caves. I don’t know anyone who doesn’t use fast travel after finding all the locations, traversing the Mojave is so boring.
tld'w, Adam Adamowicz, the main concept artist for fallout 3 who wanted to stick closely to the og games style died before fallout 4 was even done with pre-production so they had to get a different artist
... Rest well Adam, we still miss you. Fallout needs you, but god had other plans. I wont stop having hope that things will change back to their gritty right place, but for now... fallout is very much so, Dead.
Interestingly, the most common complaint I had seen about the earlier FO games was the dark and drab atmosphere. What did you expect a world devastated by total nuclear war to look like. Eden. Many people did not connect to the STATED CONCEPT that this was an alternate Earth where it diverged from OUR world's timeline in the 1940s. It is a FICTIONAL WORLD and a fun game in and of itself. Climb the skill tree, blast your enemies, and have fun. IT'S A VIDEO GAME. There are lots of MODs so you can play YOUR WAY. Happy gaming. And yes, I own all the FO games.
The thing with Fallout 4 and 76 is that they deviated so far from the past games art-styles that they do not feel post-apocalyptic anymore; or at least no longer post-apocalyptic to us anymore. Everything took on such an artistic interpretation that there was no longer any familiarity to the world for most of the players.
I had played Fallout 1 and 2 previously, but Fallout 3 is the one that made me fall in love with the franchise. I went into GameStop and just asked for a fun game with a lot of replayability. The dude working there, who I THINK was named Paul, recommended Fallout 3. I forever owe that guy a HUGE thank you. It may have just been another work day for him but it was a day that set me on a path to discover one of my favorite things ever. I like the art style of 1 and 2, 3 was the one that hooked me.
Honestly I could cope with 4's artstyle if it was unique to Boston alone. Like the city itself was a scientific/research hub and as a result had its own unqiue design similar to those concept towns like Milton Keyes in the UK but 76 threw that idea out of the window.
Weirdly enough, feel like interplay would have tanked the series if they would have retained the rights nowadays too. With the layoffs and scandals we can see that the people who originally made fallout what it is would not have been there anymore. I’m sure Chris Avellone would have absolutely been tanked just as quickly, and who knows with Tim Cain except NO company has kept its passionate developers since the 2020’s. What kind of game would interplay create in this corporate shareholder market? They wouldn’t have had enough muscle as Bethesda does to keep their skin in the game, how would they have bent to consumerism? Todd chose his methods, and actually had a choice in how to flanderize the series to make clout. He still did it, but of his OWN designs. I just don’t think interplay could have retained enough funds to keep the choices in their court anymore. We all know where our favorites go at that point, EA and black rock way of sold out and taken apart. No way to know now. What do you all think? Who could have done it better in the industry climate nowadays?
Funny enough, Mad Max has lost a lot if's nuance, from the hints of a post-apocalypse with the dilapidated Police Station and violent nomadic gangs to the cartoonishly spikey, rusted hulks of recent films.
I do think that Fallout 4's look is fine if its only something for the Boston area. Like the next game hopefully will have more designs from the older games kinda like Fallout 76 did but I think it kinda fits for different areas to have different styles. Think about modern cities across just the US & you see clear differences in the look of cities like New York & LA so it'd make sense for them not to look the same. I just hope the next game uses a better look & uses more real guns instead of whatever the hell the guns in Fallout 4 where meant to be.
I started with fallout 3 it was epic new vegas lost darkness but had its candy dessert witch played perfect fallout 4 without mods is for 8 year olds next fallouts i didnt play and newer will i spit on them and its creators
I wasn’t keen on the change of art style for FO4, but I was willing to adapt. Because the change from FO3 from the first two were pretty big, but acceptable. However, the gaming style of 4, the absolute degradation of the rpg element into a watered down first person shooter with rpg-esque veneer added on, just disappointed me so much that I stopped playing FO4 after only a little bit, and haven’t looked back since. And that was 7 years ago. But I’ve replayed FO3 as well as the first two several times since then, on top of the enormous amount of times I’ve replayed those already before FO4 came out. 4 sucks. But, I’ll give the show props because while it retained a lot of the cartoony goofiness and designs of 4 and 76, it was still a fun show to me.
FO3 had hints of that architectural style, I think it's called googie or whatever and FO4 went all out on it. I think it suits the setting fine and I played all the games besides tactics and BoS. It especially fits those big urban centers. FO76 is riddled with mostly colonial era architecture which I don't know the name of but it looks like those 17th/18th century colonnial era british built settlements, just google fallout 76 harper's ferry, the only fo4/googie looking area that I recall is the mostly unused big urban settlement/robot city whose name escapes me.
Watoga is the name of the self-described "city of the future" and yeah, I think they reverted to a more wooden shack and brick buildings, opposite to the Fallout 4 with ramshackle shacks and uber-futuristic buildings with no inbetween.
Characters started to feel somewhat generic. It's actually difficult to explain it in words instead of you actually feeling the degrading character design quality.
I grew up with FO2, but i never found 1 or 2 scary, i always thought it was supposed to be goofy and campy, cause thats what it looked like to me. I thought the game was hilarious as a kid, i dont necessarily understand the "new fallout is too goofy" its always been goofy to me. With love of course, lets be real every FO game is full of bugs and jank, you just have to pick your favorite wasteland to slink through. My favorite is NV cause its got 2 robot cowboys and thats the only reason I need
if the Combat rifle in Fallout 4 looked like a Fallout version of the M2 that shoots .30 carbine rounds, and we had a Not BAR for a .308 shooter, that would have been great!
Gotta disagree with the take that the TV show was the same artstyle as 4. It’s a lot closer to 3 and the older titles when you look at the settings & story elements. The BOS has returned to being more culty and the color was taken out of cities and locations (to great effect) I honestly resonate with the show much more than 4 as it feels like the art style of new Vegas and 1 with the goofyness present in 2. Overall welcome and definitely better than 4’s atmosphere.
@ Models and the art styles atmosphere are two different things. The buildings included are much closer to F3’s style of architecture and level of decay. Philly in the show was more reminiscent of the megaton than most of the designs seen in 4. While yeah it still adopts aspects of 4’s colorful design, I was pleasantly surprised how much more the show modeled the earlier fallouts trend of browns and grays being the primary color pallet.
4:25 core memory unlocked; had that exact toy robot as a kid but nobody could recall where it was from. Had a button that would eject the arms. Thanks for including that.
I think Fallout's art style is the most misunderstood design in history. Everyone refers to it as retrofuturism, but that is incorrect. Retrofuturism is how an earlier era viewed the future. But in Fallout, it is how a future era views the past. Fallout's art design is futureretroism
Interesting video but the comments are insufferable. If they kept the same style, people would just accuse Bethesda of not being able to do anything original.
That's a paradox. You won't be an outcast if you make a LoTR games in the same fantasy style. But you will definitely be one when you make it sci-fi. Same here. Continuing an already established series with it's atmosphere isn't 'being unoriginal'.
Replacing the Chinese assault rifle and assault carbine with that water cooled monstrosity was a crime
And making the BOS knights use that monstrosity of a rifle in the TV show was also a crime, one of many, they really couldn't just make a dozen laser rifle props.
And relocating Shady Sands just to nuke it, unreal.
Well, if you want to sell the game in China you have to yellow-wash the lore, like... a lot. Fallout 3 they were still okay with it, but Fallout 4 was very much "toe the line".
@@darkowl9
Then they could've just removed that rifle from the Chinese version of the game.
Similar to how the German copy of L4D2 was censored at launch, since then they've been given acces to the uncut version though.
@@Jono_McKto be fair they did sort of canonize it as just a BOS issued machine gun for Power Armor with that move. There's also plenty of weapons shown in use by the NCR as well in the last episode that are actual firearms.
IF the Fallout 4 "Assault rifle" was actually an Assault Machine Gun that had normal barrels with variants as the Infantry Configuration and both of the Water-cooled OR Air-cooled Barrels(implication is, separated cooling systems for variety) as the Infantry Confuguration that would be MUCH better. Also, an American Assault rifle(Stoner 63 platform, perhaps?) and the Chinese Assault rifle and pistol along with more awesome options would be great. Ammo variants in energy and ballistic ammunition would have been great, as well as the expansion of weapons arsenal to be used. Example, Laser pistol for the Small Energy Cells and Plasma Pistol for the Small Plasma Cartridges and stuff like proper handguns for pistol calibers, machine pistol calibers and revolvers, plus Handcannons as Power armor or High strength stat weapons, stuff like that. more shotguns, not just the double action and combat rifle, but also stuff like break actions for handgun only shotgun versions, plus various shotgun bore ammo versions of a lot of stuff. Pump action, lever action, semi auto only shogun variants would be great to have as well. the Not-Taurus Judge would have perfect as a shotgun option as well as a .45 long colt option. LMG for shotgun shells as well. Pistol Caliber carbines, more SMGs, more LMGs(laser and plasma LMG platforms could have been a thing to add in vanilla), stuff like repurposed mining equipment like a two handed drilling device used for autmated melee or a gauntlet with a drill ala Bioshock 2 Big Daddy protagonist melee would also work, laser cutter as a energy beam handgun and two handed heavy weapon beam cannon type also good idea.
more glorious additions to the arsenal would have been great!
If you look into the Fallout 4 art book you can see that the designers had a lot of "dark and gritty" ideas that were pushed aside because Bethesda was going for a destroyed 50's city of the future feel for Boston.
Fallout 76 already feels a lot more grounded than 4.
Fallout 76 is gorgeous too. Fallout 4 is so ugly.
@@Clown_the_Clown do game graphics get worse in the year 2056 when fo7 releases
The reason the concept art is different is because the art direction lead passed away during concept phase. So they went with a different direction. It's definitely not as good as 3 NV or even aspects of 76. F4 is the ugliest fallout by far, but it still has some redeeming qualitys
@@Mr.Unfair There are a whole 8 pages of Adam's concept art/scribbles in the book mostly as a tribute to him. Then the rest 355ish pages are made by other artists. Im unsurprisingly referring to those images.
Paska ripuli 😊
I can sum Fallout 4 to this: "a fun action shooter with relaxing settlement building, but a dumbed down Fallout game"
Fallout 4 is a great shooter, but a shit RPG
My friend praises it but refuses to try Fallout New Vegas. It’s so much better
@@riddlemethat4911 sadly it’s not even a great shooter imo
@@riddlemethat4911 Compared to older title, yes. But in terms of balancing and pace.... i feels like 3 and especially NV did it better
It’s an extremely mid game. Even with mods installed.
I still like how fallout new Vegas and fallout 2 showed humanity rebuilding and creating new cities instead of Bethesdas version which shows humanity regressing to a more medieval society with settlements that don’t like working together
Fallout 4 is actually the best fallout game
Yeah from a game standpoint I agree with Bethesda, it makes for a more fun game and in the event it really happened that is probably more than likely what would happen. Fallout 4 was the best it was a good shooter and had just enough rpg elements to satisfy the old school players not to mention it was made with modding in mind which kept it alive and even more popular than 76
> more medieval society
Fallout New Vegas literally had a faction of roman cosplayers, you can say whatever you want about Bethesda's games, but that's the dumbest complaint I've heard about in a long time
@@nugget6820 It has both tbh, the NCR has functional cities deeper west lore wise
@@nugget6820Most ( 98% of them) of Legion didn't even knew they were larping. If they were from bethesda (ha tfu) game they would be fully aware of that + 3/4 of things that were making them cool and unique would be cut.
Yeah I dislike how they forgot that Ghouls were described as perpetually ROTTING beings.
They heal from radiation, but it never advances past rot.
I mean I could understand Project Purity making that healing improve.
The weirdest part is that Fallout 3 got it right, only for 4 to completely forget about this. Bethesda got it right the first time yet for some reason got it wrong afterwards...how?
@@joshuakim5240 The company over the years lost it's core developers that's why. Like how obsidian latest game Avowed looks like a DEI color project
@@joshuakim5240 I think Fo3 got a fair bit of things right in terms of art style overall. The loss of Adam Adamowicz was tragic in more ways than one
@@NinjapowerMS Oh no, a black person in a fantasy setting. The horror...
@@andrijajalsovec5877 Definitely ignore how the game's direction is having a DEI meltdown the past month.
old fallout: what people in 1997 thought people in 1950 thought 2077 would look like and then it got nuked and now it’s 2161 and people are rebuilding
new fallout: rundown 1950s idiocracy theme park
Yeah that's pretty much on point lmao
It's what the masses crave, or so we're told. They've also defanged their own franchise, just look at how the weird and imaginative world of Morrowind compares to Oblivion and Skyrim. Leadership today seems just as simple as the average consumer, perfect for the job if you wanna make money.
It was great while it lasted, will always be a part of me, but the only way is forward to the next great piece of art not yet corrupted by capital.
Bingo, I was wondering when someone would point out the drop between Morrowind and Oblivion! It was like the very soul got sucked out of the franchise for me and became generic fantasy franchise overnight!@@kosmati4569
@ ironically in the pursuit of capital they fall flat
And the TV Show: A season of Rick and Morty with random Fallout references and scrambled lore here and there
old enough to have played them all, a friend I play 76 with conspire that there's still 1 good designer left sneaking in old style fallout content into 76 but he's locked in a basement. Until he's free'd we deal with the circus crap lol
Wanamingo plushie is peak fanservice obviously
yeah, there's one guy who sneaks in stuff like spore plants and the enclave build kits
The pip boy design in 76 is actually pretty cool too I imagine that guy was the designer
Is there any reason why you're not protecting the stills?
that guy stuck in the basement is TheFriedTurkey, a modder Bethesda plucked up to do modeling work, the plasma caster and fallout 1 brotherhood bunker object are two examples of things he’s designed for 76
Only Todd Howard could turn nuclear holocaust & it's aftermath into a marketable Saturday morning cartoon
That’s how fallout has always been (to an extent)
It matches how people were during the old days.
@@DOT_Z no
@@DOT_ZUm.. no, it wasn't. Have you played Fallout 1?
@@nagger8216 Fallout 1 literally starts off with goofy tongue in cheek 1950s advertisements
It’s not just Fallout, every modern game feels like the development white board had the words; EPICSAUCE, COLOURFUL, MARVEL-LIKE, SARCASTIC, and VIRAL surrounding the games title.
yeah i hate it so much.
Toxic positivity and/or wokescalding
The carcinization of video gaming, but everything evolves into Fortnite instead of crabs.
Hello, Dragon Age Veilguard 🤢
@@Tito_michiMortal Kombat hurts me with this, this franchise used to be disturbing now it's just marvel kungfu magic.
Adam adamowitz died that's what happened.
He was the concept artist for Fallout 3 and TES V: Skyrim, we miss him dearly.
Happy he fulfilled his dream and worked on two of the most beloved games of all time.
RIP Adam
We appreciate your work and love of video games.
Cheers all.
Fallout 3's art style was shite though! I mean fair play and RIP and all that, but ascribing the turd in the hamper that was the aesthetics of F3 as a success for the fellow is just disingenuous and the height of bad taste.
@@WeWillAlwaysHaveVALIS The phonebooth bomb-shelter was a concept made solely by Adamowicz, there's hundreds of pages he personally drew of ideas he just had for the setting. You don't try adding new things to something on top of your already heavy workload unless you're excited and proud to be a part of it.
@@WeWillAlwaysHaveVALIS Most people would disagree, stop circlejerking lmao
I like how your comment is saying how great 3 looked, but the comment directly above yours says Bethesda never understood what Fallout truly was like Interplay did with 1 and 2. Lol
@@WeWillAlwaysHaveVALISyou’re a troll for real. No taste is your problem little guy
Fallout since 4 doesn't look like a nuclear apocalypse, it looks like if society just broke down and the commonwealth delapitated naturally in 200 years.
In Fallout 3 the first town you see is completely destroyed, Concord and Sanctuary just look abandoned with the occasional collapsed house.
DC felt like a nuked city, the whole thing was a pile of mangled steel and concrete you had to drudge through. Boston is borderline pristine in comparison.
Fallout 76 is even worse in this regard but there at least you have the excuse that nobody bothered to nuke West Virginia directly.
DC is the capitol of the USA so it makes sense it would be the most destroyed. In addition Fallout 76 takes place 25 years after so it wouldn't be as badly decayed as if it was 200 years after the bombs.
@@thesheeper0873 It doesn't help that after 200 years almost no one is rebuilding in Bethesda Fallout, the wasteland is constantly stagnant lmao.
To be fair, DC should be considerably in worse shape than most other places, given it would be a major target in a nuclear event
@@Badookum They are rebuilding but capital wasteland is just not a good place to settle so you are not getting a representative picture of what the state of the resettling effort is. There is also a popular theory with much supporting evidence that fallout 3 was meant to take place 30ish years after the great war which would help explain the state its at better, because all the art teams were actually told to make it look like it had just been blown up.
@@Badookum what is this stupid low IQ logic anyways?
What law in the universe dictate that after X amount of years, the "wasteland" must be rebuilt. And who is to stay they aren't rebuilding when their progression to civilization is just extremely slow that one would easily mistaken them to be stagnant?
Does the term"wasteland" mean anything to a fallout fans?
Like I understand that the average fallout fans are just average joe but this ain't rocket science either.
Don't just repeat the echo that you heard in your chamber, think about it like a human being, not a monkey.
Also worth pointing out that they used tim burtons 1989 batman movie as inspiration for the artstyle and some scenes too. Especially for the city designs and several scenes such as the goo dipping scene.
Fallout 1 & 2 were fucking incredible. It has gradually lost its soul with each release since. Bethesda just had a rudimentary grasp of what Fallout was, they don't do depth very well. The best description of it I heard was "Interplay made Fallout, a game about the world that was built from the rubble of nuclear armageddon. Bethesda made Fallout thinking it was about the rubble. "
Well not only with Fallout 4 all their games started off filled with content and choices and dark stuff and it was about you playing your character making your own choices and suffering the consequences to it NOW it's just whatever the great Todd Howard wants is what's gonna happen and you cannot kill main characters cause that's how the great Todd Howard wants HIS story told I'm afraid every game they release now is just gonna be another variation of Skyrim cause the formula is still being used hence why Fallout 4 has no roleplaying and Starfield is just Skyrim in space
Because realistically it would still be about the rubble. You can't rebuild civilization in 200 years. Lmao.
I mean to be fair. Even back in the day people would have called you crazy for putting two on the same pedestal as one. People really forget how much wacky and silly stuff was into that was actually stripped out when Bethesda made fallout 3 but slowly brought back into the franchise
Fallout 2 is literally just every popular 80s movie aesthetic jumbled together and going " OMG LOOK AT THIS POP CULTURE REFERENCE! "
It's soulless. You read as a zoomer whose entire opinion of Fallout is from youtube video essays or a millennial with rose tinted glasses
@johnclay2716 nah I'm a millennial and New Vegas will always be my favorite (unless fallout 5 or 6 are just mindblowing, which I doubt. Obsidian does Fallout way better than Bethesda)
Adam Adamowicz was also the mastermind behind Shivering Isles' art direction. His concept arts from that DLC were some of the best I have ever seen and honestly he shaped the unique feeling of the expansion. Still one of the best DLCs I have ever played. His art was as beautiful and disturbing as Michael Kirkbride's creations were. Truly a legend.
The opening with the butterflies and the talk with Sheogorath, I used to rush to the DLC on a new charachter because I never cared to do the boring imperials main questline.
That's really cool I didn't know that
Shivering Isles is basically a standalone game considering how much it brings to the table. No wonder lots of people thinks it's the best DLC of all time.
Shivering Isles was an expansion pack and not DLC. It was distributed as physical copies just like TES4.
@@DasFork Every content that is additional to some game is a DLC including expansion packs. You may purchase shivering isles on disc but it still requires oblivion which makes it a DLC.
The Redditification of Fallout
I put 1 million dollars on you never having played the first 2
@@dazady452001 "Fallout has always been..." No, not to this degree. Not even close and I'm sick of all this historical revisionism. Where are people pulling this meme from?
It's the same card the Fallout: Frontier developers pulled when defending their product
the bos will be in every fallout so they can sell more fortnite skins and funko pops
"Waoh this heckin deathclaw is so scary that he dodges left and right giving me more time to shoot. Deathclaws are heckin scary" while ignoring the quiet and beelining deathclaws in Fallout 3 and NV which made them actually scary. Like just imagine a 12' tall lizard monster that makes no sound until he takes a swipe at you... now that's scary
Somewhat unrelated but I do think they were trivialized as any player could just turn 180 degrees and press the sprint button in 4 and onwards
Bethesda never understood Fallout, Bethesda turned Fallout into a theme park.
I saw some Fallout 76 boss fight footage, a fight against a giant snake, and it seemed like something from World of Warcraft.
Don't tell them about the giant talking rat in 2. Or giant fly boss fight in NV.
@@a.monach7602 Which is why 1 is still superior in every way.
@@verified_JC_Denton since when did you guys leave nma?
@@a.monach7602 nice strawman you're doing over there.
Fallout 2 went over the top with a lot of stuff and there's a very good reason why they cut the mutant raccoons from Fallout 1.
@@exlpod since when did you guys leave reddit?
One thing that always stucked with me was that in Fallout 1, since cars didn't work, they reporpoused them and used the trunks as carts. I never played through 3 or 4, because I find them boring, but I don't remember them ever reusing this idea.
Thats an amazing detail yes! :D
Yeah, I agree. That idea was sadly never used again, presumably cos it would cause issue with two entities following one another. The closest thing we've gotten is new Vegas using actual regular carts as set dressing.
Also in new vegas some flamer fuel cans were reused motorcycle fuel tanks which I really liked
Yeah the buildings on F4 look really tiled and rushed but the bright colours and texture choice makes it worse or more noticeable.
Also why tf is everything shiny like it was coated with oil
People had the opposite complaints about the older games. I know because I was actually alive the games released. People used to say they were too bland.
@@infernaldaedra those people should go play cod or something as shallow as they are
@@alexdittman1135 your talking about the kind of person you are being right now.
They look like straight model cities with NO road space or actual plan layout.
I’d say my personal favourite version of fallouts art style is the 3 & New Vegas styles.
It feels like the perfect mix between the 50s retrofuturism of the newer games and the pure bleak atmosphere in the older games.
Hell, fallout 3 looks absolutely depressing for an environment despite the lighter tone. If you put the same ambience from the original games into 3 then you’d straight up have a faithful fallout 3 (in terms of atmosphere, writing is something else)
I was wondering why no one in this comment section was bringing up new Vegas 😂
@ because it and 3 have basically the same art style.
So bringing it up would be a bit of a null point
fun fact, the game used indexed images (instead of full RGB(A), pixels of every sprite are just a single byte (0...255) that maps to an array of 256 RGB colors), but the values of colors in that palette don't go above 63 in any channel for some reason. So everything is ¼ of how bright it could be and is then somehow adjusted to be brighter in the game.
The game IS LITERALLY dark XD
if being short
the answer to the title is bethesda
just
bethesda
Sure, let's ignore that Interplay did even worse in Fallout: Brotherhood of steel, which was a final nail in the coffin of the the old fallout franchise.
@@youarealwayscorrect Insane strawman, the foundation of Fallout made by Black Isle was amazing, Bethesda has done nothing but destroy the series and dumb it down for the lowest common denominator.
@@youarealwayscorrect Not only that but Black Isle was already heading towards bankruptcy which meant they were desperate to chase trends to save their dying company.
@@youarealwayscorrectShhhh they can't spin a narrative on that. It would blow their minds😊
Wrong, they dropped the ball on the 2nd one.
'What happened?'
Bethesda happened. Artstyle changed completely when they bought the rights to the franchise, especially with the recent releases. Old school Fallout was relatively grimdark and the art direction showed that perfectly. But I personally would argue that Fallout 3 was probably the closest Bethesda got to capturing the look and feel of old Fallout
I dont think its not the artstyle in itself, its just they could not make old one work in a new engine.
@@dmitriyrasskazov8858 That makes literally no sense, engines do not limit stylistic choices
No. The whole Fallout 3 thing is just giving them way too much credit. Fallout 3 is only faithful in the most shallow way; it is a bigger insult than 4
@@Sul_Opreym But they do. Lighting, animations, shaders, filters. Sure you could make more grim representation, but whats the point if it looks like crap? Fallout 3 looked like the most brown boring game ever with the 'serious' artstyle. It was simply cheaper to make general style look better, rather then rewrite engine to make same brown world not look plastic.
@tk-6967 Yeah yeah we get it, you have hate boner on Fallout 3.
This is why I feel like Fallout 3 is the perfect blend between the old art style and Bethesdas spin on the franchise
Hear hear
Thats why fallout 3 is nearly perfect, bethesda humour with the original fallout feeling. Everything, the atmosphere is my favorite and the job they did with washington metro was so well made, something i didnt like was Liberty prime and Raiders being just generic goons but its only that besides that everything is perfect
@@supeesanzyou're the first person i ever heard who didn't like Liberty Prime. Better dead than Red! I'm a fan of New Vegas and the originals. I only liked Fallout 3 as its the only good one from Bethesda
@@supeesanz Nearly my ass. Writing and world building.
its not, its too much 50s and the combat shotgun is an abomination.
Damn, I almost forgot that the visual style of 3 was indeed very close to original. Got so used to hating bethesda.......
It looks close enough. Ultimately the problem wasn't the art style, but what they did with the world. Bethesda built both DC and Boston as giant theme parks rather than locations that made sense.
3's major problems werent really artstyle-related, while I do prefer the style of 1, 2, and NV, 3 does do a pretty decent replicating the gritty early fallout atmosphere, it's issues come down more to the writing and absent or unnuanced black and white ethical dilemmas than anything.
@@heinrichb I need to find whoever popularized the "theme park" buzzword, it looks a recent development
"Just kidding Todd I love you"
And you lost me. Todd Howard IS responsible for many of the issues plaguing Bethesda and it's games over the last decade and I am tired of people pretending he isn't. Put the blame where it rightfully belongs and stop treating the man as some kind of savior.
Finally, someone has the balls to speak up!
I think that was sarcasm...
0:22 I'm more curious about that clip of the bullies sliding a child off the lemonade stand
I bet you like lemonade a lot uh?
@@Meninx87 It's alright. I prefer limeade lol~
It’s a skit by someone on Instagram the lemonade taste bad so they do that to the kid lol
@@AE1OUdid you add the squiggle line after the sentence to show your zesty?
seems like where Fallout 4 went wrong is that in design, "retro-futuristic" and "dark humor/morbidity" (cheerful music playing over brutal massacre etc) are the biggest and only selling points. like a product made to satisfy a need to stay relevant by just giving you better gameplay but more importantly, More Fallout... but without the spirit that gives Fallout its identity. it's less about loyalty to aesthetics and more about the message. like 16:12, there is just something captivating to me about this image. with exceptions of echos of the past like the NCR and the BoS, the progression of humanity as a whole has reset, fallout represents this in a lot of ways like the tribals' repurposing of futuristic armor giving them these primitive looking decorations, making them talk in broken English and caveman babble, depicting them as nothing but dumb savages, but it's as futuristic as it is primitive because humans have adorned their armor forever and always, languages are just as much alive as we are, and morals are just a long-lasting guide on how someone somewhere thinks life should be lived. it's both an example of the strength and ingenuity of humankind and a reminder of the permanent devastation of a total nuclear apocalypse.
modern Fallout just doesn't seem like it has anything new to say in that regard. i can only hope the total tonal overhaul of Fallout was done out of respect rather than otherwise
Thumbnail: Iron Maiden then and Iron Maiden now.
The details ran to the hills
Also Metallica they sold out and became what nickleback became
Its callled the Toddification of a franchise. Turning something unique and interesting into the most basic and generic version of itself to appeal to the broadest consumer market possible.
that's just capitalism?
It's the only way they can sell games anymore. They want everything to be squeaky clean for the whole family. All became a reflection of Todd's unerring aura of lameness.
@@yewrforstnaymhearyewrlayst5566 Marketing and capitalism are not synonymous terms.
Exactly, the same thing happened with the Elder Scrolls series. A good example is Oblivion, it would have been amazing if they had embraced the Roman aesthetic we see in the imperials in Morrowind (and later in Skyrim), a fantasy Rome RPG would had been so interesting and unique. But then Todd watched Lord of the Rings and Oblivion has just another generic medieval high fantasy setting.
Let's just ignore Fallout Brotherhood of Steel where interplay replaced Nuka Cola for an irl energy drink.
@@yewrforstnaymhearyewrlayst5566 Sounds more like communism where there is no freedom of choice and art is what the leader tells you it is and you have to pretend to like it or off to the gulag.
Capitalism would be the best product wins but we are not really in a capitalistic society anymore as we are more in a oligarchy
Best way I can explain why I liked Fallout 3 more than 4: Fallout 3 felt grim, bleak, and depressing (like a real apocalypse), while Fallout 4 felt like a Looney Tunes cartoon.
Yeah because fallout 3 is actually good and 4 is objectively trash.
@@wiwysovaobjectively trash? I would say objectively its a great game, beautiful detailed map, good fps mechanics, cool settlement building, redesigned power armor, and so much more, I would say the issues arrise when you compare it too previous fallout titles, little rpg, upbeat colorful world, ugly gun designs, obvious good and bad factions, etc. Fallout 4 is a great game but a bad fallout game if that makes sense.
@@ramiro7130
I see what you mean.
I loved FO 3 and NV, but somehow FO 4 never managed to make me want to play it.
I loved the FO tv series though , which seem to have the same esthetics as FO 4.
The only trash between 3 and 4 were the terrible main storyline. They’re basically the same with just the roles reversed. The factions in 4 are half baked, and 3’s factions are cartoonishly good guys and bad guys. And very little choices that leave a genuine impact to the game world.
@
« Very little choice that leave an actual impact on the world. »
Hmmm, FO 3 literally ends with a recap of what your choices implied for each faction you have encountered, so I’m not sure what you are meaning with that.
imma say it, Fallout 1 and 2 monsters and whtv are basically Grim Dark stuff... but bethesda changed it to not be Grim Dark stuff.
I know the purists don’t like three but it was 4 that took Fallout behind a shed, shot it in the back of the head, and then violated its corpse. 76 made a marionette out of the corpse.
Modern Bethesda is so trash
@ sadly. With no hope in obsidian either these days.
I'm a straight up annoying NV/classic simp and I stan 3
@@wiwysova not to be annoying but what exactly did you mean to say. I think you have a typo
@@Fred-rv2tu oops
0:12 he did NOT say nuka cola
🤨
yeah
what is the issue here?
That’s crazy
My first jar of pickles
He said Nuka-Cola?
I feel like this slowly happens to all games as more and more realistic graphics becomes
more and more of a demand in the industry
No, realistically graphics don’t mean change the art style.
I'll wanted to cut bethesda some slack since they would tend to keep their fallouts on the east coast so they wouldn't ruin the old games' lore but then the show came out and they had the audacity to obliterate the new vegas continuity and lore
My only strain is how did Hank nuke Shady Sands all by himself just to keep his vault citizens from leaving the vault. I'm just gonna save my energy for S2 to give them an explanation (and hopefully not dumb it down).
I really hope they don't show the courier at all in the second season
The new nuka-cola bottles are the one change I don't mind actually.
Boooooo
I think both sides should come together to praise the almighty Nuka-Cola rocket design
@@YourLocalEldritchHorror no. Traditional Coca Cola style
@@Fred-rv2tu Booo, to the traditional glass bottle.
Rocket better, plus it fits with the worldbuilding of companies shoving nuclear panic into every aspect of life.
Even the products
Dude you sound like a fvcking child when they don’t get what they want. “No! I want traditional Coca Cola style!!!” 😭😭😭
The themeparkification of the fallout series
GREAT VIDEO! The problem is that most new Fallout players today don't know what the original was and therefore accuse you of being too "boomer" if you point these things out to them. So thanks for explaining it in a simple but convincing way! And let's hope Bethesda sees this video and convince herself to turn back!
💯💯
Fallout went from a horrific tragedy based on the greed of humanity to a comedy about radiation. 🤷🏼♂️
You're spot on with what Bethesda turned Fallout into; a goofy saturday morning cartoon themed around "radiation meets the Jetsons", but I think classic Fallout's theme wasn't "greed", but more about the inevitability of war.
It doesn't matter what you believe in, what flag you represent, where you were born, who you grew up with, what economic system you follow, what figures you idolize, what time period you lived in; humans will always find a reason to kill one another. To quote the Sniper from TF2; "As long as there's two people left on the planet, someone is gonna want someone dead." I mean, Fallout's tagline (which Bethesda bastardized) is "War. War never changes." not "Greed. Greed never changes."
What? New Vegas wasn't more of the same visual design as 3- It boldly broke new aesthetic ground by swapping everything being grey for everything being yellowish-brownish with occasional orange. Super original and distinctive. But seriously though, I'd say that change alone meant that while New Vegas may be the better game of the two, it does look different, and different for the worse. I'll take all greyish over all brownish any day.
As for 4's visual style, say what you will, but I think it was better for adding more color. I'll agree it went overboard with all the different highrise colors in Boston proper, but overall, I think the added color was collectively more steps forward than backward. Other than that though, yeah, I agree it took the retro 50's thing too far overall, and its take on ghouls was just bland. It took away the distinct skinless look and replaced it with... just a more generic kind of burn victim look? So still ugly, but now in a much blander way too. Definitely a design downgrade there.
Big part is the music. Fallout 1 and 2 have a brilliant soundtrack.
So does NV 🙂
@commandercodyproductions1326 yeah because they were made by obsidian
I find the newer art style easier to play. But i think they should try to merge the two styles. Maybe make the more retrofuturist buildings a bit more decayed/rusted with more of the paint eroded away, add more of the art deco and statues, maybe go for more cloudy skies but definitely abandon the green and tan filters.
You aren't supposed to play the art style, you just kinda look at it.
Wtf do you mean easier to play?
I might be in the minority but I like the filters, maybe if they were more dynamic and it changed based on weather patterns. It feels more gritty and cinematic, fallout 4 and 76 feel way too cartoonish and brightly colored, doesn’t fit the vibe I think.
@@coyoteHTKthe fuck you mean too cartoonish. I'm sorry to say but you need to stop making excuses for new Vegas shit art style.
@@coyoteHTKI agree. Everyone blindly hates on different art styles and filters and only wants a vibrant colourful Disney movie look. Now most games have it and it's so boring.
I've been modding since 3 and I always make sure to make the game as closes to 1 and 2 as possible.
That’s what I do with 4, it looks so much better too
Amazing video, you took the words outta my mouth. Bethesda really went all in on the cartoony 1950's retro-futuristic atompunk aesthetic with Fallout 4. No grit, no dark atmosphere. Now everything is wacky, bubbly, and colorful, but with a little bit of rust on it lol. Also found it especially interesting how you kept mentioning the changes in the guns. Wonder if I influenced that? Haha, good stuff man
Wow it's really an honor to have you leave a comment! Love your content man, I can't lie your videos definitely had an influence on this one lmao.
And it's an honor to inspire others with my content :) You really cooked with this one man, I subbed and watched your other video on fortnite too. I could definitely see you becoming a successful TH-camr if you keep up the good work
My daughter loves fallout 4!
Think your opinion of Fallout's art direction matters the least, seeing your Tarkov Souls of Duty mod lists (that ironically are only identified by the 4 architecture)
Don’t you have fictional firearms to whine about? Get a life.
I feel like fallout 3 did pretty good design of the wasteland, it’s what I imagine the aftermath of nuclear bombardment would look like
It'd make 300% more sense if it wasn't set 200 years after the bombs fell.
8:40 MINOR SPELLING ERROR
LITERALLY UNWATCHABLE. Bro fell off 😢
You can kinda tell by the way this dude speaks and enunciates that he’s a bit on the slow side… so that usually goes hand in hand with illiteracy
@@flipdiesel9652wth ur j hating for the love of the game 😭
really quality vid from a decently small youtuber
The lead artist who worked on Fallout 3 and 4 quit his job and wondered what's the next art style for Fallout will look like
Edit: I was referring to Jonah Lobe not Adam. Rest in peace Adam
It was the same guy? damn I thought Fallout 4 had a different art team as it looks nothing like Fallout 3. Fallout 3 still fits in well with the original games some things are missing but the weapons mostly look rather modern the G3, AK looking gun & all look similar enough to what existed in the original games. Fallout 4 just looks wierd. Some parts like the new looks for most creatures look amazing like the death claw & the Bloodbugs. But the guns range from alright to what is this meant to be. The armour generally looks ok a few are a bit cartoony but otherwise fine. But damn does the look of buildings range some look alright others look bizzare, But I feel like if we only assume boston looks like this we should be fine. I wouldn't expect all the cities to look the same Hell New Reno looks very different to the places in California but I think the looks need to feel reasonable. Hoping the next game takes from the good aspects of 76 & brings back older looks for ghouls & Supermutants.
Adam died after Skyrim.
@@maximus4765 then Jonah Lobe honored his arts by implementing them into Fallout 4
@@cillianennis9921 Jonah Lobe was the main guy who worked on the 3D models in fallout 3, Fallout 4, and Skyrim
@@Chad-ug5mb He did die before Fallout 4 released so its possible that some of the changes in look are due to as the video says another person designing things. I am guessing he is responsible for most of the good designs in that game & the worse designs are from another person. Wait I just realised who you are talking about. He quit halfway through Fallout 4 from what I remember & the last thing he designed was the Deathclaw as he didn't want to risk someone else doing it & making it something he didn't like. But was he mainly the designer for something in particular like the Creatures & stuff. I don't think I know enough about the development to say for certain this.
0:26 "This mf dont miss"
1:08 "This mf miss"
This had me giggling more than it should've
Todd howard simple ass. Dont even gotta watch the video
bro cooked astronomycally with this one
Fr😊
Not really. It just glazes the old art style and just acts like it's perfect.
@ It’s because the old art style is what the series is founded on. If you change it like Fallout 4 did it’s gonna be a stinker.
@@thatonefpsgamer1339 glazing ❌
Appreciating and comparing ✅
This is just some reddit post I'd read every week read into a mic
As a gamer who played d&d in the seventies and then joined the adult world, I watched my kids play what we now consider the old school games in the nineties. I entered fallout through three when it came out and found it was playable without having to invest huge amounts of time. We can complain about progress (and I do sometimes) but it won’t change anything. I enjoyed three, New Vegas, and four. When the show came out I was a fan and felt like it was a decent continuation of the whole idea. Above all have fun, observe the continuity errors, mine what resonates, and keep in mind that if art is taken seriously it will almost always disappoint.
People who haven’t played 1 and 2 don’t realize that the radio could be playing Something in the Way and it would fit the worlds continuity.
Can you elaborate
@ Fallout technically takes place in the 90s when the nukes drop
The nukes dropped in 2077. Not the 90s. That is when the franchise began. @@velocity1852
what are you smoking
@@jimmilton6644 you don’t know the lore man 🚬
bro your editing is like slapstick humor, i love it
I prefer the grittier feel, art and gameplay of the original, but new players wouldn’t delve into this UNLESS someone like Larian Studios comes in and make a new isometric Fallout.
As someone who started out on FO3 (and then NV), I feel much more at home with 1 and 2 than with 4. While I don't totally love the isometric gameplay, the art and sound design (which I personally value highly) is preferable to 4 which just went completely off in it's own direction.
Wouldn't trust Larian to do it considering most studios are filled with the people who want personal politics and hangups in. BG3 seemed to avoid being bogged down in it at least.
OR inxile
I did not expect this video to only have 2k views, thought this was from a huge channel with the quality of this video. Great job man, much luck to you in the future
Fallout 3s setting implied a serious atmoshere and a terrifying wasteland, instead you got a relatively lighthearted saviour story (if you ignore the HEV plotline) with relatively superficial and one often one dimensional npcs. In New Vegas you expect a more lighthearted and/or goofy experience and instead get a deeply developed and mostly understandable world full of in depth, interesting characters and places. And a taste of the real horrors a wasteland like fallouts would make prevalent. And then there's Fisto
Lol we've had this conversation 700,000 times and now we’re at the point where we’re calling Fallout 3 lighthearted. I think it’s time to put this subject to rest.
Wack ass conclusion
@@Bunny-r9f8t Wack ass comment from a wack ass mental deficient random that probably hasn't even played any fallout before 4. Conclusion: Wackjob
12:10 “raider head crippled” ya think?
He’s probably still alive
Just an aneurism
Instant subscription. I fucking love that old sci fi artstyle like old warhammer 40k where everything has a gothic face pasted on it and there’s a bunch of toxic waste barrels everywhere. Every single image i see of fallout 1/2 looks like it would make a terrific diorama. Brilliant video
heard at the end of the video that you watched the fallout TV show, sorry for your loss, very unfortunate it happened.
You say that like it's a bad show
@@samanthaofcatarina i have bad news for you
@@samanthaofcatarinaIt is.
The show was exceptional.
@@Saltasaur exceptionally bad, yeah
I thought about this topic just few weeks ago. Nothing beats the style of the originals
Fallout 1 and 2 were arguably some of the best games ever.
fallout 4's far harbor dlc artstyle is probably the most true to the games before 4.
No
@@jetrifle4209 why lol
@jonar3162 because bethesda couldn't hold a candle to 1 and 2
0:48 Friendly reminder that this is Nick, the hero of Fallout 4
*Nate
Dark souls is a better example of the post-apocalyptic genre than Bethesda games.
Majority of the original games world was a desolate wasteland that only really started to rebuild in fallout 2, as the games transitioned to 3D the maps would be boring if they were all empty
Common sense? Thats not something fallout fans tend to use just like taking a shower
You should go away from here
you know what, i already thought something similar like you but i think you took the words out of my mouth
It worked on NV
@@naitor2594 no it didn't lmao. fnv did a lot of things right but maps ain't one of them.
@@naitor2594new Vegas easily has the worst 3D map, half the named locations are empty shacks and small caves. I don’t know anyone who doesn’t use fast travel after finding all the locations, traversing the Mojave is so boring.
I think a game made 20 years later and set 100 km away in a different location can absolutely have a different look
The time has nothing to do with it since the world ended at the same time.
@@509Gman Look at Miami and New York.
Look at West Virginia and Boston
Vegas and San Francisco.
They look different
Okay then why does the show have the same art style as the game over 100km away
@@Nighterac what art style red rocket?
I love this video, you didn't say a single word with confidence. Mom in the next room sleeping? Keep it up
tld'w, Adam Adamowicz, the main concept artist for fallout 3 who wanted to stick closely to the og games style died before fallout 4 was even done with pre-production so they had to get a different artist
A tragedy on many levels and I'm not being facetious.
Fallout 4 just lacked something that F3 and NV had. Idk what it is. But it’s
Soul
Heart. Effort. Competent devs. Competent writing. Creativity.
... Rest well Adam, we still miss you.
Fallout needs you, but god had other plans.
I wont stop having hope that things will change back to their gritty right place, but for now... fallout is very much so, Dead.
3:54 didn't Fallout start with the dev wanting to turn their GURPS TTRPG campaign into a videogame?
Interestingly, the most common complaint I had seen about the earlier FO games was the dark and drab atmosphere. What did you expect a world devastated by total nuclear war to look like. Eden. Many people did not connect to the STATED CONCEPT that this was an alternate Earth where it diverged from OUR world's timeline in the 1940s. It is a FICTIONAL WORLD and a fun game in and of itself. Climb the skill tree, blast your enemies, and have fun. IT'S A VIDEO GAME. There are lots of MODs so you can play YOUR WAY. Happy gaming. And yes, I own all the FO games.
The thing with Fallout 4 and 76 is that they deviated so far from the past games art-styles that they do not feel post-apocalyptic anymore; or at least no longer post-apocalyptic to us anymore. Everything took on such an artistic interpretation that there was no longer any familiarity to the world for most of the players.
You summed the core problem perfectly tbh
I had played Fallout 1 and 2 previously, but Fallout 3 is the one that made me fall in love with the franchise. I went into GameStop and just asked for a fun game with a lot of replayability. The dude working there, who I THINK was named Paul, recommended Fallout 3. I forever owe that guy a HUGE thank you. It may have just been another work day for him but it was a day that set me on a path to discover one of my favorite things ever. I like the art style of 1 and 2, 3 was the one that hooked me.
2:18 Todd Howard has reason to be assumed petty that Obsidian has not been allowed to work on Fallout since New Vegas.
Honestly I could cope with 4's artstyle if it was unique to Boston alone. Like the city itself was a scientific/research hub and as a result had its own unqiue design similar to those concept towns like Milton Keyes in the UK but 76 threw that idea out of the window.
Came for fallout, stayed for the comedy. Subbed.
Weirdly enough, feel like interplay would have tanked the series if they would have retained the rights nowadays too. With the layoffs and scandals we can see that the people who originally made fallout what it is would not have been there anymore. I’m sure Chris Avellone would have absolutely been tanked just as quickly, and who knows with Tim Cain except NO company has kept its passionate developers since the 2020’s.
What kind of game would interplay create in this corporate shareholder market? They wouldn’t have had enough muscle as Bethesda does to keep their skin in the game, how would they have bent to consumerism? Todd chose his methods, and actually had a choice in how to flanderize the series to make clout. He still did it, but of his OWN designs. I just don’t think interplay could have retained enough funds to keep the choices in their court anymore. We all know where our favorites go at that point, EA and black rock way of sold out and taken apart.
No way to know now. What do you all think? Who could have done it better in the industry climate nowadays?
Bethesda´s Fallout: 🔫🤓🤖
Obsidian´s Fallout: 🔫😎🚬☀
Interplay´s Fallout: 6:02
Fallout 3s architecture is actually good
Of all the faults fallout 3 has, the art direction was not one of them (besides the combat shotgun).
Funny enough, Mad Max has lost a lot if's nuance, from the hints of a post-apocalypse with the dilapidated Police Station and violent nomadic gangs to the cartoonishly spikey, rusted hulks of recent films.
It went from Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Role Playing Game to Fallout: the Amusement Park.
The art style is the least of this franchise’s problems unfortunately.
I do think that Fallout 4's look is fine if its only something for the Boston area. Like the next game hopefully will have more designs from the older games kinda like Fallout 76 did but I think it kinda fits for different areas to have different styles. Think about modern cities across just the US & you see clear differences in the look of cities like New York & LA so it'd make sense for them not to look the same. I just hope the next game uses a better look & uses more real guns instead of whatever the hell the guns in Fallout 4 where meant to be.
Worst part about playing Fallout is having to hear opinions of other people that play Fallout.
There’s an easy fix for that iPad kid
Yeah, I can't stand fallout 4 enjoyers who think they're fallout fans either
My first game was 76, then 4, then NV, then 3 and I still like the older ones more
@@wiwysovaHate to break it to you, you don’t dictate if someone is a fan of something.
@Saltasaur you're not telling me anything, I'm just relaying facts.
I started with fallout 3 it was epic new vegas lost darkness but had its candy dessert witch played perfect fallout 4 without mods is for 8 year olds next fallouts i didnt play and newer will i spit on them and its creators
The ghoul from the cover went from Eddie (Iron Maiden) to a random dude after guetting burned
I wasn’t keen on the change of art style for FO4, but I was willing to adapt. Because the change from FO3 from the first two were pretty big, but acceptable.
However, the gaming style of 4, the absolute degradation of the rpg element into a watered down first person shooter with rpg-esque veneer added on, just disappointed me so much that I stopped playing FO4 after only a little bit, and haven’t looked back since. And that was 7 years ago.
But I’ve replayed FO3 as well as the first two several times since then, on top of the enormous amount of times I’ve replayed those already before FO4 came out.
4 sucks. But, I’ll give the show props because while it retained a lot of the cartoony goofiness and designs of 4 and 76, it was still a fun show to me.
FO3 had hints of that architectural style, I think it's called googie or whatever and FO4 went all out on it. I think it suits the setting fine and I played all the games besides tactics and BoS. It especially fits those big urban centers. FO76 is riddled with mostly colonial era architecture which I don't know the name of but it looks like those 17th/18th century colonnial era british built settlements, just google fallout 76 harper's ferry, the only fo4/googie looking area that I recall is the mostly unused big urban settlement/robot city whose name escapes me.
Watoga is the name of the self-described "city of the future" and yeah, I think they reverted to a more wooden shack and brick buildings, opposite to the Fallout 4 with ramshackle shacks and uber-futuristic buildings with no inbetween.
Characters started to feel somewhat generic. It's actually difficult to explain it in words instead of you actually feeling the degrading character design quality.
“Things used to be better,”
*Literally every video created by any TH-camr in the year 2024*
(Proceeds to go beat my own dead horse)
Not a lie though.
I grew up with FO2, but i never found 1 or 2 scary, i always thought it was supposed to be goofy and campy, cause thats what it looked like to me. I thought the game was hilarious as a kid, i dont necessarily understand the "new fallout is too goofy" its always been goofy to me. With love of course, lets be real every FO game is full of bugs and jank, you just have to pick your favorite wasteland to slink through. My favorite is NV cause its got 2 robot cowboys and thats the only reason I need
This is the kind of TH-cam video I wish I was good enough to make: A heavy flavor of memes while still being primarily informative and interesting
The combat rifle in Fallout 4 looks more like a BAR in my opinion
BAR = Browning-Automatic-Rifle
Yeah but the automatic rifle in NV already exist
It's both. Front half of a BAR, back half of a PPSh.
It looks like a free asset, objectively
if the Combat rifle in Fallout 4 looked like a Fallout version of the M2 that shoots .30 carbine rounds, and we had a Not BAR for a .308 shooter, that would have been great!
Gotta disagree with the take that the TV show was the same artstyle as 4. It’s a lot closer to 3 and the older titles when you look at the settings & story elements. The BOS has returned to being more culty and the color was taken out of cities and locations (to great effect) I honestly resonate with the show much more than 4 as it feels like the art style of new Vegas and 1 with the goofyness present in 2. Overall welcome and definitely better than 4’s atmosphere.
No, they literally modelled it off of FO4, dude. Just look at the vault designs. It is straight out of FO4. This is copium
@ Models and the art styles atmosphere are two different things. The buildings included are much closer to F3’s style of architecture and level of decay. Philly in the show was more reminiscent of the megaton than most of the designs seen in 4. While yeah it still adopts aspects of 4’s colorful design, I was pleasantly surprised how much more the show modeled the earlier fallouts trend of browns and grays being the primary color pallet.
13:45 true to caesar.
Reddit
4:25 core memory unlocked; had that exact toy robot as a kid but nobody could recall where it was from. Had a button that would eject the arms. Thanks for including that.
I think Fallout's art style is the most misunderstood design in history. Everyone refers to it as retrofuturism, but that is incorrect.
Retrofuturism is how an earlier era viewed the future. But in Fallout, it is how a future era views the past.
Fallout's art design is futureretroism
Interesting video but the comments are insufferable. If they kept the same style, people would just accuse Bethesda of not being able to do anything original.
That's a paradox.
You won't be an outcast if you make a LoTR games in the same fantasy style.
But you will definitely be one when you make it sci-fi.
Same here.
Continuing an already established series with it's atmosphere isn't 'being unoriginal'.
Yes