Literally got this same one today. I have a Lord Marvel, Lord Matic, King Seiko, and now this same Grand Seiko. All codes match dials are great and the websites you're referring to are yeah they're the best source for
Thanks a lot. I had my eye on one, and it seemed wonderful but with your information I have a much better understanding of what to look for, and kept my money in my pocket because the dial was incorrect. Great help
5:20 The "Japan" writing at the bottom is above the markers for Suwa models and Below the markers for the Daini models. They both are authentic. Also, the The Grand Seiko Guy specifically says about GS dial numbers and caseback numbers "It is important however to note that there does not necessarily need to be consistency here where the same caseback code is used on multiple watches. This can lead to some confusion for the unwary, and it is why you can’t necessarily identify the exact model being referred to just from its eight digit movement-caseback code". From what I have read - 3 different factories = Suwa, Daini, and what became the Grand Seiko factory were all making the same watches and sharing with each other. You can find mix-matched/faked models but you are drawing false conclusions acting like any GS w/"Japan" above the markers is not "authentic" just because your specific model doesn't look like that...
Great video, thank you for making this! I saw a couple of vintage Grand Seiko's a couple of years ago. It still lingers in my mind, they looked amazing. The size, the shape, the seconds sweep, ...
@@QuartzCrisis hopefully I'll get a vintage grand Seiko later on this year, one of the Tanaka grammar of design style ones. Grail watch is a Spring Drive.
Buddy, the dial of this watch is perfect. Just one thing if you don't mind. At the back, there's memorial writing.(something says anniversary of 25years working in Toshiba) Some people might prefer those without it.
Thank you, what the price expectation for a model like yours ? I can see it go between 500-1500 euros. The gap is huge, and it is hard to get the right price...
Thanks! I think you should try to fit the price of the watch + the price of the service under $1,000. This is based on the prices in the early 2019. If you're reading this in the future the prices will be different ;)
I got a grand Seiko with alternative hour and minute hand and a alternative crystal. It’s the 4520-8000 gold filled. How much will this affect the value?? It’s in very good condition.
I got mine on eBay. You obviously need to know what you're doing when buying on eBay, but that's exactly why I created this video. If you check all what the video talks about you will get yourself a nice authentic watch
@@QuartzCrisis the Vintage Grand Seikos really grew on me and I want to get myself one for my 30th birthday! I want to get one like the one in your video with the sharp chamfered sides, I just love this look! The icing on the cake would be a dial that reflects the light in a really special and the big block markers. Can you tell me a pricerange that would be acceptable for such a watch? It’s really hard to figure out what would be a acceptable price, since they are so rare these days. Because of that I can’t compare the prices as easily as with say vintage Rolex or omega watches..
I bought Grand Seiko 5646-7010 but without medalion (the seller mentioned in the ad), without Japanese word, Japan, and years. It only show Stainles Steel, moder number, waterproof. Is it authentic? For dial and crown looks fine
I’d say compare to the known authentic casebacks on 5646-7010 watches. If medallion was there, but someone remove it this makes the case back damaged, but not fake
Contrary to the common advise I do not recommend you to "buy the seller". I've created this video so you can buy good authentic watch yourself, you don't need to trust the seller. If you do everything what video says you will be better expert in GS then any of the "recommended" sellers
Hi, I recently bought a 6156-8000. Otherwise great condition but the logo on the watch face and medallion don't match up. Does this mean the medallion is a fake ?
How many hours power reserve are you getting on the watch? I use to get 38 hours with 40 winds. After servicing this recently from a renown watch tech, I get a lot less than this.
I always wind my watch until full wind, it means I can't wind anymore. It's definitely more then just 40 winds, way more. My power reserve is about 45 hours. But the mainspring was replaced during the service 3 years ago.
I used to have one which I bought from my friend. At those days (2003-2005) I was never heard of its value and never think of how more valuable it would be in the future. One night, when we are a teenagers, we unfortunately face an inevitable street fight and break the strap and ended up to lose it. What a bad luck!!
While it sucks to lose such a cool watch I would say don't stress out too much. The price is not the same as in 2003-2005, but it's still not that bad. If you like it you should just save and re-buy it. It's not like you lost old Submariner or Daytona ;)
Sorry I don’t know the answer, but you probably need to take a look at modern GS. They are bigger and fatter. The modern consumer taste changed to the worse. Even Credors are of dinner plate size now.
Modern watches are often 28,800 bph and nobody's concerned. Yes the wear of 36000 hi-beat is twice the wear of 18000 bph watch, but all watch collectors have many watches. So it's not like you're going to wear this GS non-stop for 30 years like in the old times.
Literally got this same one today. I have a Lord Marvel, Lord Matic, King Seiko, and now this same Grand Seiko. All codes match dials are great and the websites you're referring to are yeah they're the best source for
Thanks a lot. I had my eye on one, and it seemed wonderful but with your information I have a much better understanding of what to look for, and kept my money in my pocket because the dial was incorrect. Great help
I'm glad to hear that! This is exactly why I've created this video.
I just love the high beat watchs, it is amazingly how smooth the seconds hand moves
thank you - I am getting a 45gs late 60's high beat. I referenced your points and the watch seems legit. Grazie mille!
5:20 The "Japan" writing at the bottom is above the markers for Suwa models and Below the markers for the Daini models. They both are authentic. Also, the The Grand Seiko Guy specifically says about GS dial numbers and caseback numbers "It is important however to note that there does not necessarily need to be consistency here where the same caseback code is used on multiple watches. This can lead to some confusion for the unwary, and it is why you can’t necessarily identify the exact model being referred to just from its eight digit movement-caseback code". From what I have read - 3 different factories = Suwa, Daini, and what became the Grand Seiko factory were all making the same watches and sharing with each other. You can find mix-matched/faked models but you are drawing false conclusions acting like any GS w/"Japan" above the markers is not "authentic" just because your specific model doesn't look like that...
Still very relevant information! Thank you very much
I'm glad my old video is still helpful! AlsoI've made many more on vintage GS, please check them out too
@@QuartzCrisis I have that is what led me here! Great videos
Great video, thank you for making this! I saw a couple of vintage Grand Seiko's a couple of years ago. It still lingers in my mind, they looked amazing. The size, the shape, the seconds sweep, ...
can you make a video of you winding the 45gs? setting the date etc..
Hoping to buy one by the end of the year, keeping my eye open on different sites.
Recently I bought a 70's King Quartz and I love it.
King Quartz/Grand Quartz are also super cool watches! But I think you'll like Grand Seiko even more. I hope my video was helpful.
@@QuartzCrisis hopefully I'll get a vintage grand Seiko later on this year, one of the Tanaka grammar of design style ones.
Grail watch is a Spring Drive.
@@G1NZOU Good luck!
Thanks for all the useful info!
Buddy, the dial of this watch is perfect.
Just one thing if you don't mind. At the back, there's memorial writing.(something says anniversary of 25years working in Toshiba) Some people might prefer those without it.
I like the engravings, but I wouldn't pay more for them because they can be easily faked
Thank you, what the price expectation for a model like yours ? I can see it go between 500-1500 euros. The gap is huge, and it is hard to get the right price...
I sold my watch for $1,000 about a year ago. It should give you an idea
@@QuartzCrisis thank you 🙏
This is a stunning example of 45gs. Also, great guide, thanks! How much should I expect to spend for a 45gs no date in a similar condition to yours?
Thanks! I think you should try to fit the price of the watch + the price of the service under $1,000. This is based on the prices in the early 2019. If you're reading this in the future the prices will be different ;)
Also watch out for Seikos with the wrong case not just case back. Because I've seen those as well
I got a grand Seiko with alternative hour and minute hand and a alternative crystal. It’s the 4520-8000 gold filled. How much will this affect the value?? It’s in very good condition.
This is a different Grand Seiko. But you can find it's value very easy. Please watch my video "How to find value of vintage watch"
Thank you for this video
I'm glad it was helpful!
Thanks for this video! Very helpful!
Very nice piece from where did you get yours? Thanks for sharing hoping i can get like good condition as yours cheers!
I got mine on eBay. You obviously need to know what you're doing when buying on eBay, but that's exactly why I created this video. If you check all what the video talks about you will get yourself a nice authentic watch
@@QuartzCrisis the Vintage Grand Seikos really grew on me and I want to get myself one for my 30th birthday!
I want to get one like the one in your video with the sharp chamfered sides, I just love this look!
The icing on the cake would be a dial that reflects the light in a really special and the big block markers.
Can you tell me a pricerange that would be acceptable for such a watch?
It’s really hard to figure out what would be a acceptable price, since they are so rare these days.
Because of that I can’t compare the prices as easily as with say vintage Rolex or omega watches..
@@rolux4853 see my video: How to find value of vintage watch.
I bought Grand Seiko 5646-7010 but without medalion (the seller mentioned in the ad), without Japanese word, Japan, and years. It only show Stainles Steel, moder number, waterproof. Is it authentic? For dial and crown looks fine
I’d say compare to the known authentic casebacks on 5646-7010 watches. If medallion was there, but someone remove it this makes the case back damaged, but not fake
@@QuartzCrisis 325€ for grand seiko without medalion. Condition of dial and case are good. Do you think it's worth it?
May I ask if there is any ebay seller you would recommend? thanks
Contrary to the common advise I do not recommend you to "buy the seller". I've created this video so you can buy good authentic watch yourself, you don't need to trust the seller. If you do everything what video says you will be better expert in GS then any of the "recommended" sellers
thank you
Thanks, it’s very useful information
Hi, I recently bought a 6156-8000. Otherwise great condition but the logo on the watch face and medallion don't match up. Does this mean the medallion is a fake ?
Or the caseback is wrong. I'm sorry
How many hours power reserve are you getting on the watch? I use to get 38 hours with 40 winds.
After servicing this recently from a renown watch tech, I get a lot less than this.
I always wind my watch until full wind, it means I can't wind anymore. It's definitely more then just 40 winds, way more. My power reserve is about 45 hours. But the mainspring was replaced during the service 3 years ago.
great vid thanks and nice watch
Thank you!
Great video. Ty
I used to have one which I bought from my friend. At those days (2003-2005) I was never heard of its value and never think of how more valuable it would be in the future. One night, when we are a teenagers, we unfortunately face an inevitable street fight and break the strap and ended up to lose it. What a bad luck!!
While it sucks to lose such a cool watch I would say don't stress out too much. The price is not the same as in 2003-2005, but it's still not that bad. If you like it you should just save and re-buy it. It's not like you lost old Submariner or Daytona ;)
Is there any vintage gs or ks hi beat thats bigger than just 36mm case?
Sorry I don’t know the answer, but you probably need to take a look at modern GS. They are bigger and fatter. The modern consumer taste changed to the worse. Even Credors are of dinner plate size now.
Sorry to respond so late. The largest vintage GS are the 4420-9000, 6145-8050 and 6146-8050. They are 38.4mm in diameter without the crown.
Is this watch good for a daily wear, given its a 36000 Hi-Beat which runs hard?
Modern watches are often 28,800 bph and nobody's concerned. Yes the wear of 36000 hi-beat is twice the wear of 18000 bph watch, but all watch collectors have many watches. So it's not like you're going to wear this GS non-stop for 30 years like in the old times.
The Great Watch .
Put it on the wrist, it was supposed to be worn. Orayt, rockenroll!!!!!!!!!
Yes I agree. This is one of the 3 watches I wear the most. It's on the wrist all the time