5 Reasons Why Grand Seiko is Better than Rolex
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- Never did anyone think that five letters in that particular order could have such an astounding effect. Rolex fever seems to have come in at a close second for this generation’s largest pandemic, replete with its own political divide and even conspiracy. So if you’ve had it up to here with Rolex dealers telling you what to do, then you’re in luck, because you’re about to find out five reasons why you should probably get a Grand Seiko instead.
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As first a Rolex owner and then a five Grand Seiko owner, Rolex is of no further interest to me. I keep one Rolex for sentimental reasons as it was my first good watch but I will never darken the door of a Rolex boutique again. The build quality, finishing and movement engineering/performance of Grand Seiko cannot be equaled.
Steady on, there are some very tasty watch makers out their that blast GS out of the water…just not at this price 😉
@@mell3109 u can get anything u want as long as u pay the price, that’s why comparisons are only fair in the same price range.
@@my2l Exactly. An A lange Sohne beats GS everywhere but it’s no where near the same price
Absolutely nothing can beat GS at the price point. I've been a GS fan for the past ten years. I also love being able to wear my watch without the risk of being robbed for it or having the stigma of attention-seeking, label whore shit.
Ok dude…
Honestly, I’ve got mostly sub $500 dollar Seikos, Bulovas and Citizens. I’m mesmerized by the dials of these Grand Seiko’s. Absolutely spectacular
Save up and get one man. Every watch enthusiast should have atleast 1 spring drive movement
There was a time when I too was obsessed with Rolex, and then after being told constantly that they were unavailable - I found myself browsing Jaeger LeCoultre, Grand Seiko, and A. Lange & Söhne. I came to the realisation, I wanted a Rolex because of the label - but when inspecting them closely, having held one, I realised - there was no connection. A Rolex didn't invoke any sort of feeling, it felt overpriced and lacking in inherent value. Where as holding a Jaeger LeCoultre Reverso and Grand Seiko SPGY007 - I felt like I was getting more than what I was paying for. Gorgeous watches, and truly breath taking. I find myself staring at my watch and forgetting the time (counter productive).
I bought a 60x loupe just so I can sit and stare at my Grand Seikos lol.
I've travelled the same path. And although my collection incudes 2 vintage Rolex watches, I have absolutely no interest in anything they're currently offering. In fact, I can't remember the last time I even visited their website. GS on the other hand, sees me frequently.
The very last thing a Submariner is
Breathtaking
YES:) Thanks so much for your comment. Ten years ago I probably would have bought a Rolex, but now for me, it's Grand Seiko all the way, and incidentally also planning on acquiring a Reverso at some point.
Rolex = Analog bitcoin
Rolex prioritizes marketing, Grand Seiko prioritizes quality and finishing. Which is why watch enthusiasts are migrating to GS while others are "waiting on the call" from an AD while watches are going to flippers to the secondary market and high profile clients for prestige. It's a game I'm not going to play.
I think Rolex focus a lot on both and that’s why they are on top
I'd agree, but the quality of Grand Seiko's bracelets is far below that of an Oyster bracelet. I just don't understand it, as it's literally what's binding you to the watch and so it's one of the most important parts.
Jeff you talk rubbish
@@Orbbman My statement was not about the quality of either watch, it was about marketing and hype.
@@jeffhudson2346 I get your point, really. But imho Grand Seiko is not prioritizing quality and finishing unless they’re improving what many people criticize since years. Never wondered why you see so many Snowflakes on leather straps?
I got my first grand seiko as a gift from a family member, probably the best gift I have received
I want to be adopted into your family member's family
That's a great gift right there
I get 25 dollar gift card to Starbucks
@@WatchUnwind Like Rolex, Starbucks coffee is overpriced! For $25USD, You can get a lot more decent tasting coffee at Cumberland Farms. 🌝
@@krokodyl1927 haha very true 😂
I had No idea Grand Sieko was a thing. When my grandpa passed he had one with no band just sitting in the "junk drawer" it didnt run and was about to be thrown away, I saw Seiko so I knew it wasn't a bad watch so I grabbed it and my grandma said I could have it. I bought a cheep leather band and took it into the watch shop to get a new battery. The shop owners jaw about hit the floor when He found out I though it was a $200 Sieko. He informed me of what I had. I cherish that watch even though I have no idea how my Grandpa acquired it or even saw him were it.
Great story! 😀
great story which model is it or what was the value???
@@christopherlopez2729 probably $500
Did u fix it
I’m glad GS is starting to get the attention it deserves. They should be considered grail status watches even at the 5-10k range where most of their catalog lives.
My grail was the SBGA211. Saved for over four years to buy it. Since then I've owned three Grand Seikos.
Buddy GS has been hailed from the 90s just depends which channel you are tuned into...
@@WeeSmokey I'm not even sure what you're attempting to say here. GS has been around since the 60s. I'm not sure what you mean by "hails from the 90s"
I kinda like the fact that Grand Seiko doesn't get the attention it deserves. I don't want everyone to suddenly start flocking over to the watch that I love because you get the pretentious, insecure, attention seeking, trend followers who know nothing about watches but buy a watch because it's the expensive watch to have then act like they're a watch person because they can afford one. All in vain. These types of show offs are the type that buy a rolex. Let them stay over there.
When I first got interested in watches and made the decision to choose mechanical timepieces over the electronic distraction strapped to my hip, the SGBA413 was the first one to set my heart alight. Can I afford it? No, it's as out of reach as a broken Rolex, as I'm poor. But that watch is absolutely my grail.
The dials they produce are simply top notch and spring drive is an awesome innovation in watchmaking.
Also I don’t get why a lot of people say it’s not a mechanical watch. The only thing not mechanical is the regulator of the movement. They just hear that a quartz crystal is involved and they think it’s a quartz movement.
I guess you could call it a hybrid but that doesn’t describe it perfectly either.
For me a mechanical watch is a watch that entirely runs on mechanical energy. And spring drive does exactly that.
Converting mechanical energy into a minuscule amount of electric energy electromagnetically regulate the mechanical system is a stroke of genius and doesn’t take anything away from the beauty and fascination of mechanical movements.
It's a quartz regulated servo regulated movement using mechanical power to drive its own electrical generator that operates the servo loop.
I say it's much closer to a mechanical movement than it is to a battery operated quartz movement.
@@Turboy65I think they use piezo electric crystals to accumulate electrical energy from mechanical movements of the wrist or arm.
This was a spectacular presentation. GS is the first watch I have longed for that wasn’t influenced by any athlete, media, sport or marketing campaign.. or even amongst friends. The watches simply speak for themselves. I think that when you wear a Rolex or AP, Patel or an Omega…people take notice as they recognize the prestige and the brand. But when you wear a GS, even the most ardent of watch enthusiasts or critics will take notice and say “hey, nice watch”.
Exactly. I don’t want thousands of dollars of my money supporting a sport I have nothing to do with.
Loved your presentation as always & I love the Grand Seiko. I cherish the Spring Drive that I own.
*The religion comparison was hilarious and SPOT ON* 😉
Not only is GS the much more stunning-looking watch, but unlike a Rolex on your wrist, no one will ever ask, "Is it real?" I refuse to play the Rolex AD you-have-to-buy-the-watch-we-have-not-the-watch-you-want game, and am now the VERY happy owner of four GS watches.
I have a Snowflake and the Spring Drive is truly the most astonishing movement. The dial is a wonder - you can stare at it for hours. I also have a current model Sea Dweller, which I like in its own way but I have more of an emotional connection with the GS and I expect to own more of them in due course. GS really are absolutely first class watches.
Watching that seconds hand sweep is really something quite special and that's coming from a Pepsi GMT holder. I always say, at least when you buy a GS Spring drive you know its real or not immediately. You can't fake that sweep.
Recently bought the snowflake on a trip to Japan as it had always been a bit of a bucket list purchase. As with you I think there will definitely be more on the horizon, they truly are mesmerising in more ways than one!
Contrast this with their 9F85. Which is a perfect tick with no back bounce. And, more impressive hasn't lost a second in three years of daily wear!!1! But, a Spring Drive is on the horizon.
Shhhhh! 🤫 Jeeewiz....let's keep this to ourselves, no need to tell everyone about the beautiful Grand Seiko spring-drive.
You had me there, until you said GS is something to enjoy "until you get the call." Love GS; disgusted by Rolex.
Great video and presentation as always, love the way you captured the detail in the dials of the Snowflake and White Birch really did it justice. 👏
Recently picked up my first Rolex watch but I would definitely like to pick up a GS at some point in the future. I had to scratch that Rolex itch and I had the opportunity so you can’t really turn that down. That grand seiko mosaic dial is probably my favorite dial ever hands down period.
You can buy the Seiko any time you want.
Wonderful video, however I have to compliment the editor / cameraman. As seen at 3:00 (and other parts of the video) - it shows the smooth second hand of the spring drive GS staying still while having the watch rotate on the screen. Fantastic perspective. Love the channel and hope I can obtain a GS one day.
Good thing is there’s a watch for everyone. People should just buy what they want without hating on another brand or the owner it’s weird behaviour.
Originally wanted a Rolex. Finally had the means and became so disillusioned at how hard it was to give Rolex my money I vowed never to buy a watch from them. Started looking at alternatives and purchased a SGBA211 Grand Seiko and a Tudor BB58. Have never looked back and am very happy with my choices.
Yes! Tudor here as well. And I’m perfectly happy with it (mine is the GMT). I just don’t respect the Rolex game.
Yes, I hate the current market as well and refuse to buy anything from them. The idea that you have to befriend AD or buy something else before you can be put on a waitlist to get the watch you want is just disgusting. I have better things to do with my time/money. I can't blame them though, it's in their best interest not to increase production to meet temporary demand.
Having said that, this doesn't take away from the fact that their watches are excellent for what they are. You're not going to get hand-finishing or high complications from Rolex, it's not what the brand is about. But if you're looking for a robust, reliable, and versatile watch that you can wear pretty much anywhere, then in my opinion, Rolex is second to none.
SGBA211 is my dream watch.
Isn’t that ridiculous that it’s so difficult to give a brand your money?
My new favorite Grand Seiko watch is the SBGC231. The ability to make a Burl wood grain dial look so good is amazing!
That background music has become so evocative over time. It's vital for your videos. 👍
I'm an astronomer, and I really appreciate the Hubble Space Telescope-reference! For the future, though, consider a reference to the James Webb Space Telescope instead. It is essentially the successor to Hubble, and it just launched into space. It is state-of-the-art telescope-wise, just like your videos are watch-wise. Thank you for your videos!
I have a big hope for JWST 🙏 cant wait the first photo 🙂
I mentioned the JWST in another recent video and thought people might get annoyed if I mentioned it again 😄
@@watchfinder 😂 I think more people will be annoyed by the praises of Rolex than the reference of the James Webb Space Telescope 🔭
Actually the entry level GS at a boutique can start from as less as 2k pounds. And they really don't hold back even with their entry-level models. You still get a top class Grand Seiko!
Would love to see a video on the Seiko LX spring drive series 👍🏻
What is the service interval for Spring Drives or Hi-Beat watches?
I own both brands and agree that GS is not going to knock Rolex off it’s pedestal. However, I love the GS dials and craftsmanship at affordable prices. They are also available to wear and enjoy on your wrist. Rolex does excel at tool watches and engineering of its clasps. The watch market is plenty big enough to attract buyers for both brands.
Amazing video! Got tired of waiting for "the call" for a Rolex GMT-Master and got myself an Omega Seamaster GMT Deep Black. A Grand Seiko is definitely in my list to get for my collection.
Never settle!
While I don’t consider any of the GS dive watches or GMTs to be as outright handsome as the GMT II, they have there own appeal. If anything, the only real complaint is there a tad thick for my taste. Regardless, no matter what GS you end up with, you will certainly be happy!
I've been lurking the credit card swipe for my first REAL watch since i've started to follow your channel, always admired Grand Seiko and i thought about getting the white birch but i actually managed to get a pre order out for the Lake Suwa SLGA007.
I picked the piece up a week ago and the dial is just breathtaking but still so insanely neat and so subtle. Your gaze drowns in the calm blue darkness, but when the light comes in just right, the visual crescendo takes away your breath and even silenced all the sales personal for other brands in the store, when they saw it the first time. The quality and details are really that standing out and you instantly connect to Japanese craftmanship.
Thank you for all your informative videos and the broad spectrum of watch brands and technologies you cover!
I just took a look at that watch........wow! that dial!! Great choice.
To the narrator/present or if this watchfinder video, sometimes you are a good philosopher, but on this occasion you are talking utter nonsense! You really do talk crap sometimes dude!
Bloody whatchfinder, Richmont group employee, what can one accept after all!
What a great choice, the contrast between the hands and the dial on that watch really make it pop.
@@alimuzhussain8394 calm down
Wonderfully written with that part about the visual crescendo. What a joy giving piece you have bought yourself, congratulations.
Great video. Whenever I mesmerised the GS's Midas touch, it's Mr. Dufour I'm thinking of.
Listening to him is like enjoying a lullaby.
Is so soothing. The grammer is spot on!
With A Grand Seiko the first question you get won't be "is that a real one or a fake?"
I could not imagine buying a Rolex.
And nobody cares.
The only thing that keeps me from outright shunning Rolex altogether is the fact that it is the only mainstream manufacturer that reserves a good amount of their lineup for classically sized 36mm watches. As much as I adore GS (I really, really do!), most of their watches are just that little bit too big and thick for my personal taste.
Still waiting for a 36mm Spring Drive to emerge from the depths of GS headquarters...
And that 39mm Astron 🙌
Do you know the SBGR253?
@@PEDOCACACULOPEDOPIS Yeah, great reference! Maybe a little too thick for the 37mm, but all in all a great piece.
exactly this, these brands need to make a quality 36/37mm with a bracelet!
36mm Spring Drive GS with good bracelet. Instant buy for me
Love the details, such as the floating letters and hour-markers.
I am still so curious what your setup looks like for filming. You guys gotta do a behind the scenes video one day
I wear Rolex Subs these days. But I have a few older Seiko's. They are solid watches. But I have fallen to the addiction of the automatic movements. This GS is one I would certainly consider. That dial with the hieroglyphics is amazing. But as I get older my eyesight is not what it used to be. I need that cyclops over the date. LOL
I've had 3 Grand Seikos and one Rolex, not a lot to choose from in terms of build quality between the two. The Rolex probably nicks it due to GS's rather mediocre bracelet and no micro adjustments on the clasp but in terms of finishing, availablity, continued ingenuity and price there's no comparison, GS all the way. If I was offered a GS or Rolex for free, I'd choose the Rolex, sell it and buy a GS and Omega with money left over.
I knew that the "Seiko" reflection was coming when you started talking the finishing quality of GS, and you did not disappoint me...
I’ve never seen a video done on my watch yet and I’d seriously love if you even brushed over it in an episode some how. I got a Cartier Tank Francaise chronograph stainless steel ref 2303. Maybe you could do a video comparing chronographs of similar price in the same era? Or something along those lines. I can’t even say how much I’d appreciate it.
I just have one word for your videos, including this one - SUBLIME..! 😇 Watch reviews just cannot get any better and classier than what you do. You’re BRILLIANT at what you do, just BRILLIANT! Well done and keep it up. This has been one of the most fantastic head to head reviews of two legendary watchmakers, and the way you’ve struck the balance, is just superb. 👍🏼👏🏼😌
Loving the competition Grand Seiko and Tudor are bring to the market. Elegant craftsmanship and design at a well deserved price.
You do know that Tudor is Rolex ?
@@WhoCares69 A Rolls Royce is a BMW. Same company.
Your point?
The hour and minute hands of the SBGA211G are beyond words for me. The edges are some of the straightest lines I've seen anywhere. I could just look at it all the time.
No thank you so much for always delivering fantastic content 😃 You really love watches and it tells!
Best regards Dennis from Sweden
If you are even remotely serious about watches, you must own at least one GS.
To my eyes regarding aesthetics, displaying the power reserve dial on the exposition back of the Spring Drive Grand Seiko, would be perfect.
Regardless of that, the Spring Drive Grand Seiko is a marvel of engineering. 👌
The newer movements did this. Look at the Omiwatari
@@LawryBoyer Thank you for that info. Best regards to you.
Also, they just recently announced the White Birch w/ Spring Drive
@@xx1j Yup; announced just four days ago-the SLGA009. Automatic, 5 day power reserve, and with the power reserve indicator on the back.
See the limited edition SBGY003. Clean, 3 hands dial, with power reserve at the back. Perfect!
What model of GS was that in the introduction until the 2:45 mark? Absolutely stunning.
You've raised the bar higher with this excellent review.
I have owned Rolex watches all of my life (62yrs old) and I will be the first in line to say that Rolex is not the best quality and there QC is very lacking. The flaws and errors that reach the customer are totally unbelievable and I dare say that you could make a full video on that very point. When it comes to Grand Seiko I will defy anyone to find a flaw or something that Quality Control has missed and that is the difference in the two brands, plus GS is far more adventurous and exacting with they're movements and that doesn't even mention the dials. I would recommend anyone who is looking to purchase a higher end watch that before they do what 90% 9f first time buyers do ( Tudor/Rolex) have a look at GS if you want to see a Patek/Vacheron or AP standard of watchmaking because all you will buy from the Rolex brands is a very good workhorse everyday watch that is not reflected in the price that Rolex are asking now.
Well said. Ive seen many rich people at youtube really comparing Grand Seiko to Patek quallity wise so i bet its true.
Ive owned two Grand Seikos, one I kept and the other I had to return for what seems like QC issues. There were scratches all over the dial and the case. The damage on the outside may have an easy explanation, but the dial was a completely different story. The bracelet also felt quite cheap even compared to the GS quartz I still own, which is without any imperfections even under a loupe.
@@ralex3531 I will agree that the bracelet on all of the GS is not as good as it could be but it's only in the last 7-10 years that Rolex have got their act together in respect of their bracelet. I still remember the days of bracelet stretch and the pressed clasp and when I say that they were bad I'm understating how bad they were. The head of the watch was always well made but Rolex possibly had the worst bracelet of any mid to high level watch brand. I still firmly believe that it would not have improved if not for Omega, in the 90's Omega started to make solid links and end links on their bracelets and Rolex always compared themselves to Omega. When Omega started to use a milled clasp was when Rolex knew that they had to improve their bracelets and funnily enough that was when they started to radically increase in price. I believe up until the point that Rolex had to increase quality of the bracelets the watches were made to a price and not to the best quality of all parts of the watch. I say this as a long time owner and buyer of Rolex watches, I still have the first one I got ,well technically I don't have it I gave it to my grandson so it's still in the family but that watch has had 3 bracelets in 49 years and I still have all the bracelets and genuinely they didn't improve until my grandson had it serviced 2 years ago and got the bracelet replaced.
@@Visitor555 Not even close to true. They're talking out of their asses.
@@rava2107 Yeah, from what I understand, the Seamaster bracelet was ahead of many watch companies at the time. I do think the quartz bracelet is pretty good though on GS, they just need to improve the clasp and allow it to integrate better.
I have the GS snowflake and Omega aqua terra. Both on equal rotations of wrist time. GS dial and movement is beautiful but the Omega bracelet and overall feel is class.
I’m very tempted,without going into too much detail I may be receiving a driving ban soon and if I do I’m going to cheer myself up by buying myself a “new to me” watch,I’ve got my eye on a few but the list of potentials keeps growing
Great attention to detail on the dial, hour markers and hands. Yes, I could add one to my collection essentially made of Rolex watches.
Seiko has some of the most beautiful dials. If my Seiko Premiere had a sweep seconds hand instead of a dead-beat, I would wear it more often. Also, I just purchased the Bulova Precisionist. It spots a continuous sweep second hand and an advertised 10 seconds per year accuracy. I would love to hear your take on this watch.
Funny that we have same watches! I've had my Bulova Precisionist brand new 10 years ago. It's accuracy was very good at that time. But 10 years in, and it is now at +129 seconds in 8 months, way worse than my Seiko Premier and Citizen EcoDrive (which is 6 years old and at +35 in 8 months).
Grand Seiko's 9F caliber is a totally different story though. I have a special one adjusted to +/-5sec per year. It has been so accurate through this same 8 months testing period that at some point it started to seem to me that I am checking the accuracy of the reference time :)
@@taylantorin Very interesting that the Bulova lost accuracy after a certain time period. That watch is 16 jewels and is made of gears and pinions just like it’s spring wound cousins. The accuracy of spring wound watches will suffer as time goes on due to thickening oil and dirt. The same should be true for these watches as well. You might take it in to someone qualified to work on Pricisionist watches and have the movement cleaned, just like in a normal watch. I’m thinking that will solve your issue. Let me know how it goes.
spring drive is the ultimate movement regarding precision . and, it was created by seiko. rolex relies on technologies 60 years back old. it works fine for them . but seiko shows the way to the future . and do not forget credor . seiko is of course the biggest manufacturer in the world right now . and they succeeded that, by making watches that anyone can get .
As usual a great video guys. Have you thought about reviewing one of the watches from the catalogue of Focke Wolfe? Yes the same brand which produced ‘The Butcher Bird, FW 190’ during the Second World War. They are a brand to watch out for in the future.
You're about to rile up a lot of snobs
I purchased a SBGJ249 last year and I love it. The dial is gorgeous and it’s the only watch that I wear that people actually ask me what watch I am wearing...they are genuinely shocked when I tell them it’s a grand seiko
I think you should take a look at the Voutilainen x Leijona collaboration (or Voutilainen watches in general, for that matter...). There is a short video of the Motiers Classic model my channel, but it doesn't really do justice to the incredible amount of quality and level of finishing that you are getting for a relatively low price.
Love your channel. Thank you for what you do. I've been considering a grand Seiko but I can't get my hands on anything decent. I live in the nation's capital and we only have one authorized dealer and the only watches they have are the ones that no one wants. Looks like I have to hop a train to New York City to see anything decent. Kind of disgusted with that.
Imagine a fluted bezel with their beautiful dials or Jubilee bracelet, i would buy in a HEARTBEAT
check out the SBGT241 or SBGW235 with their beads of rice bracelet , gorgeous!
@@watchtherapy1068 it's not even close to Jubilee or Presidential
Couldn't get the Rolex I wanted so i bought a GS for less than half the retail and it's awesome! As close to perfect as I've seen!
It is still a Seiko...... don't think it will go up as a Rolex!
@@ML-rn9gb Grand Seikos are made in a different factory from mainstream Seikos and to an entirely different set of standards. IMO, they're at least the equal of Rolex.
@@ML-rn9gb a Credor is still technically a Seiko and they're up there with the likes of AL&S, Vacheron and Patek.
hi I love Seiko ! great to hear Some Seikos go up in price .
which are they please .
What is the background song in the beginning of video, any please !
My next watch would probably be a GS.
I am neither a rolex hater nor a GS fan boy but that was a fantastic video.
I found the writing on this one just as interesting as the fantastic shots of the watches.
That is some of the finest camera work you've ever done, and I've ever seen. Stunning.
Very nicely written. Absolutely loved your presentation.
Owning both brands, I can only say I wish GS worked better on their bracelets. They're so hard to adjust with those microscopic screws, and minimal considerations for quick adjustments.
Agreed. Obviously this guy never mentions these things because they’re too busy showing us slow motion second hands and balance wheels.
No proper reviews.
@@ThisIsMTH perhaps you should do a better, proper review.
didn't think so...
GS focused on the watch and the movement to keep the cost down. A good bracelet can cost up to $2000 or more.
@@aclogarta I’m totally down with spending $12k on a flagship Grand Seiko with a bracelet that meets Rolex’s standards.
@@ThisIsMTH he is a GS fan boy
Excellent video! Currently, I see the Rolex fandom and the fever to acquire one is just a case of "Keeping up with the Jones's". In my opinion, this was the case with the Royal Oak a few years ago. Outstanding pedigrees, but a watch that was sought after because it promoted a certain image, not because of it's quality or history. I see the Seiko as a timepiece that is built for quality and accuracy but designed as a work of art. Best of both worlds.
WORD OF WARNING
I took my grand seiko to the boutique in NYC to service and they sent it to japan who then sent me a letter saying they dont make the parts to service it anymore.
They said tough luck and wouldnt even sell me a new piece I wanted saying it was high demand and I had to be on a list (learned from rolex)
Mind you it wasnt that old, the entire brand was founded in the 1960s
Old school SBGA011 owner here! This piece will never leave my collection...except to my son when I no longer walk this Earth ✌️
For the audiophiles out there, Rolex’s have always reminded me of McIntosh amps. Great products for those without an imagination. GS is like getting a Luxman or top end Yamaha.
Or an Accuphase like I got ;)
Grand Seiko may be a better watch to watch guys but unfortunately the unwashed masses will always assume Rolex is a better watch. And let's be honest, most people buy Rolex for the status it conveys, not because of the watch making. Rappers won't likely be flashing Grand Seikos they had bust downed with aftermarket diamonds...
Both are great brands, better is subjective. Rolex has great case finishing, timeless design, and very well engineered movements with solid construction. GS has great dials and case and movement finishing.
@@kronikinsomniak Both are great watches and I like them for different reasons. The Rolex for it's timeless design and simplicity. The Grand Seiko for the finishing and detail. Both are on my collection list.
I am just saying though that the Rolex has a brand recognition that pretty much trumps any other brand regardless of any objectivity when it comes to quality or finishing.
EVERYONE knows a Rolex and will give you the props / clout for having one. Rolex is 99% status symbol these days. The average Rolex wearer couldn't tell you anything about the watch or what makes it special. Every sales guy, doctor, or finance guy who ever had a good year has a Rolex because it is a Rolex and nothing more.
good thing watches are personal thing. u buy these things for urself, to look at it with pride. even if the mass has a different opinion, the only opinion worth considering is ur own.
Well, there used to be a time when rappers were flashing Acuras en Lexus', so who knows.
Rapper flashing iced out Rolex instead of GS is a good thing. It proves the point that Rolex is the brand for the (ignorant) masses, GS is the brand for the sophisticated
Which grand seiko model is displayed in the video ?
Love the sweep of the second hand, mesmerizing.
Grand Seiko was the first brand that truly made me understand Rolex's were meant to be tool watches. I still think Rolex at retail is fairly priced and desirable but I'm not sure retail will ever be a thing again.
Rolex just increased the retail prices by around 10%
Tudor fills that role in the market now. Proud owner of one here.
Of course it will be. The bubble will burst eventually, it's just the question of when. Until then, there are plenty other nice watches to choose from. A shame though, I do think Rolex makes the best tool watches, and it's a bit unfair to compare them to grand seiko as they are very different.
@@theLabradorite when you say "the bubble will burst" you mean the grey market premia might fall from 100%+ to 50%+ ?
@@ordoabchao4202 for the most sought after models, perhaps. But most will go down below retail, as it should be. Rolex watches aren't rare. They just choose to sell them to VIPs (aka flippers). Now, I don't know when that will happen, no one does. But a lot can change in a few years. When I bought my first Rolex about a decade ago, you could easily get a sub/gmt at retail or less.
The day GS improves their bracelets and clasps, is the day i'am adding one to my collection.
Exactly what I said😅
When I debated acquiring a luxury watch, the GS “Snowflake” caught my attention. A magnificent dial, titanium case, and an astoundingly innovated Spring Drive. Daily I gaze at the second hand, silently and smoothly sweeping the minutes away.
i enjoyed my SBGA407 "skyflake" for 2 years and then traded it along with another rolex and Tudor for a Sky-dweller just 2 days ago...however, I will certainly be getting more GS pieces. The new SBGY007 is stunning and maybe I'll try to see if I can get an ever elusive Credor...? Can you please make a video detailing Credor as a brand?
Only five???
Yeah lol
My first GS is a used Quartz, bought it by accident not knowing the specific model was not automatic, wow was I amazed by the dial and crisp accurate movement, I just acquired my first GS spring drive GMT, the movement is just sick, when I show my fellow Rolex owners and ask them to compare the movement they instantly notice its smoother and cleaner.
What a great video. I wish I had an AD in my state for GS. Very very impressive
Amazing video. The seconds hand movement in those spring drive GS is simply magical, but I like tool watches and the Rolex that I own fulfill that purpose. In fact, now that there is so much hate for Rolex, I like them even more. 🤷♂️. What I don't like is that they attract unwanted attention.
What do you use your tool watch for. Rolex watches are jewellery not tool watches 😂
Hopefully, I will achieve a GS Spring Drive. But it seems that the peeps of the secondary market is making them pricier than their MSRP.
However, GS is perhaps gonna continue making $4,500-$5,000 spring drives til the market increases, if so. That will give me plenty of time to achieve my own GS :)
Do you know what the service cost is for GS springdrive?
@@widing19 how much is a GS spring-drive service? How often do they need to be serviced?
And learn English, too!
You can pick up a decent condition , full set , spring drive Grand Seiko around 2000 to 2500 usd. Just have to look a bit further than chrono24.
@@widing19 If I can afford the watch itself, I can afford the service it needs. :)
Comparing a mass-produced watch to a something handmade is a bit unfair - I'll the viewer decide which is which....
both is which :) as both are industrially made.
My man... Your watch story telling skills are nicely assembled. Well done!
Guys,please help.Which gs model you guys prefer to own? Im looking for my self.
Grand seiko is waaay more beautiful in person, video and photo does this watch no justice.
The only thing Rolex beats Grand Seiko on is the watch bracelet.
Bought my SBGA387 for $6400 cash from an AD and sold it a year later for $8500, used and worn.
The number one reason for me is no wait lists. I went to a local Grand Seiko AD and was told I could buy that day any item they had in stock.
Can we please all stop shouting everywhere that Grand Seiko is amazing. I am planning on buying one this year and I want to still be able to afford it by this time :(...
Popcorn at the ready! Cue the Rolex fanboi's in 3, 2, 1 ....
check Paul Thorpe Watch Dealer reaction video ... He is really hurt 🤣🤣🤣
Loved the grand seiko what is the price, are the dials alumus?
My latest want is for a GS quartz watch to go with my Skyflake. The movement is Repairable, beautiful and capable of regulation. And then a vintage mechanical. I’m hooked!
Paul Thorpe talks absolute NONSENSE!
I was a rolex fan boy. Once I got a GS, I can't look at Rolex the same anymore. I though Rolex was "high quality" and I'm paying paying the quality. Now I feel like GS is what I thought Rolex quality was and real Rolex is more similar to my perception of Tissot.
Like the Spring Drive and Grand Seiko but really hope it's logo was with a better typeface (not calligraphic). Seems gaudy
I would love to see a GS vs Omega video!!!
Wanted a Grand Seiko for several years. Then found the Casio Oceanus line. Fine finish. Accurate to +/- 0 seconds every year. Solar powered. Game Over.
Is that watch a GPS time synced watch ? If not, you won't get +/-0 seconds a year
@@JDDD33 incorrect
@PizzaPie well it must be radio controlled then, which means you will get +/-0 seconds a year ONLY when in a country that has the radio signals for the watch, else the quartz watch is rated at "Accuracy : Accuracy: ±15 seconds per month"