What I have figured out with my Jeep Grand Cherokee is that ROCK mode is more of an OFF ROAD mode. I use it for all types of terrains when I am off the beaten path. Sand mode, Mud mode, and Snow do not allocate power to the wheels with traction well. Rock mode does.
The reflection at the beginning is one of the reasons why I dont understand why car companies are using piano black. What is the benefit over just a matte plastic? It scratches, it reflects and smudges. Just a terrible interior design choice.
A lot of people put all terrains on these and take them on badge of honor trails and do well. People also need to realize someone buying this is not cross shopping a wrangler or 4runner because obviously those are better off road. Youre comparing a CUV to a full sized suv with locker/low range, solid axels.
They're all turbos now so no need to designate it. I'm not likely to go there, so I have a new 2023 Compass Limited. Great when they have a 15% off sale, otherwise not sure what I would have bought. Possibly the Mazda CX-5, the CX-50 rides like a proverbial brick.
To go off-road, it misses out on a diesel-powered engine. In Brazil, this car is offered with a 2.0 Turbo diesel with 170hp, but with 350 N.m (258 lb/ft) of torque and a ZF 9-speed transmission. The extra torque helps a lot in situations where the AWD system is managing the torque split. However, for the next year, the diesel will be gone to welcome the 2.0T Hurricane with 270hp from the Wrangler
Well, a little lift with proper beefier A/T-s should do the job for the most cases of application of this good looking small vehicle. I like the overhangs and bumpers, and thank God no horrendous plastic cladding everywhere, which per opinion of one Japanese brand should underline extreme off-road capabilities 😁
I can’t even finish watching this. I feel like my Cherokee Trailhawk with a V6, AT tires, and a rear locker would’ve crawled up that first run no problem. Stellantis killed the Cherokee for this. And it’s $46k?? Give me the Subaru Outback Wilderness. No brainer.
I appreciate the little spotlights where you compare it to other cars and explain each one's technology... Q: What will be the performance of the Forester and the Crosstrek on the same trail?
@@brandonruhl1639 wow! Interesting, and yeah I've seen a lot of off-roading videos using crossovers and SUVs with CVTs, and most of them show the 'overheating' message at one point, but I've never seen a Subaru doing that, so that's why? it cuts the power to avoid it? But at the same time, they are still more capable than other cars using CVTs...
For something that would have cost about $15-19k a few years ago. With a piss poor AWD system too...not impressed at all with the stuff Jeep...err...Chrysler....err...Stellantis is doing.
i have seen other review for this car and for cherokee and when the car is in full articulation with one wheel from each side on the air if you try to open and close the door of the passenger it stuck and does not close normal. Among many crossovers the only cars with this problem, bad body structure
Wow, This is just marketing for a plain crossover. Slapping a badge that said Trailhawk and Trail-rated don't make it a Swiss army knife. This is just a lot of buttons that make you feel it has some extra goodies but it is just another software setting, nothing actually mechanically extra here. I have seen a Subaru doing a better job than this Compass with all the settings active. Very disappointed with Jeep and their marketing team that add badges to vehicles that actually aren't capable to stand behind what that badge means.
People who just absolutely hate Subaru LOL. I wouldn't mind a Forester or Outback Wilderness....one of them might replace my old and grumpy 2005 Ford Taurus in the near future.
I'm not surprised at all, the Grand Cherokee, Wrangler and Gladiator are the only Jeeps I'd even consider anymore, and none of them have decent engine options anymore so I'd avoid them all anyways.
People pay 3 times that for range rovers that spend majority of their time broken down in the shop. So yeah, expensive but Im sure they will have a market.
LOL, umm every automaker out there has drastically increased their prices....and lowered their quality standards with garbage turbo charged engines in place of V8's...cough....cough...TOYOTA
@wildbill23c oh I agree but I'm american so I hold our country to a higher standard. Japan can do what they want but if America did right by its base then our automakers would be killing it.
47k compass..... !!!! God save stellantis greadiness !!!!!!! U get outback wilderness + 10k in ur hand . or even a pilot trail edition with 3k more . man these guys are ridiculous to price like this .
It’s a Jeep. Nobody buys them. You get a 36 month lease and throw them away like a Bic lighter. Then the predatory ‘buy here pay here’ used car dealers sell them to the black communities at 29% interest.
can and did 😊- it won't win any speed contests, but I'm hoping to have tried and true 4Runner for at least a decade. Wilson Toyota Ames- best buying experience and I'm in my 50's. cheers
They put that hurricane engine in everything now, good engine, huge improvement on the poop tigershark! Only downside is that these things are so expensive.
I get that it's a totally different kind of vehicle for totally different duty, but that thing is $5k more than I paid for a Kia Stinger GT2 in June of 2020. Shockingly expensive for what it is.
@@Maverick_-nq5lc kinda. Chrysler had a big deal with ZF and ZF wanted Chrysler to use their transmissions in more vehicles than just the Ram trucks. So they put the 9 speed into the 200, Compass, Cherokee, Renegade and many others just to keep ZF happy so they can continue to use the 8 speed in their best selling vehicles.
That’s happend because he switched the tyres broh .. I have the same jeep using it for offroad and daily drive never showed awd over heat .. & I’m in canada u know the snow conditions over here still no issues ..
Can you prove the Jeep system isn’t better than the Subaru ? The Jeep system shuffles power better and has certain Jeep only trademarks that subarus systems can’t match. We all know Subarus are better than ANY Jeep off road.
Looks are subjective. I’ve always thought this was a nice looking small SUV. But I do see that online that there are some reviewers that don’t like its looks. I think the new engine makes this a very desirable vehicle. But the price is the killer. All loaded up puts the price within range of better vehicles.
Another great video, great drone shots too. Why do they badge this a "Trailhawk" then fail to put good AT tires on it, even when topped out at 46K? That's just a poor marketing decision, makes no sense at all.
Most of these will never see dirt. We all know that. Some young girl will be driving her girl friends to wherever, but certainly not on hills, rocky trails, etc. Mom will use it for driving to and from work, and shopping.
Whether the Ford Bronco Sport, the Jeep Compass, or the Subaru Forester Wilderness, all three are excellent options. You just have to choose which one suits you best. I'd choose the Bronco Sport.
Im a Bronco sport fan too, but its super cheap plastic trim, especially around the infotainment system is a big turn off for me. But I like the rest of the Bronco
The Forester Wilderness has better torque vectoring in extreme situations. You didn’t have to use momentum like you did with this Compass. At the Compass AWD system didn’t overheat like it did last time.
I just dont get why those * 4x4 * dont just put the power to all 4 Its always figuring out one wheel at a time making them stuck in the end My Subaru did the same
Out of those 3 you mentioned for a pick, I agree. Living in the same state you know all these hills mild to steep are a lousy place to challenge brakes for long periods of time. I much prefer a proper transmission to shift down with to engine brake more than riding the pads.
I agree but this Jeep is more capable than what is being implied. It has a Power Takeoff Unit (PTU) , a tried and true transfer case. PTU simply means that it's front wheel drive. A PTU is simply a front wheel drive transfer case. Ryan is right though, It seems to be a bit worse than a standard (RWD) transfer case. But to act like it's overall less capable is just silly. It's a true 4X4. I like the way he's down playing it because it's being marketed towards women.
People are commenting that the Forester is 40k and the Compass is only 32. However a Forester is only 40k if you load it down with all available options. Actually it’s a touch under 40 according to a build I did on the Subaru website. The 32k Compass is the bare bones Trailhawk version. The version Ryan has in this video is the loaded version. So if you compare loaded to loaded Forester to Compass, Subaru wins hands down price wise. Plus more ground clearance and more reliability.
The tires are such a let down. Anyone who off-roads knows that tires are the most important thing as bad rubber can even bring a wrangler to its knees. With that being said, the course is pretty challenging and it looks like it did great even with the highway slicks. Put some proper rubber on it, one size up for slightly more clearance and I’d bet it would be a world of difference.
Hi I’m from india, I love to watch your videos and get so many information about the card. can you please suggest what would be the performance of Volkswagen Tiguan on the same terrain where you drove this trail hawk? Which will be better trailhowk or Tiguan ? In india we got Jeep Compass trail hawk with 2 Ltr diesel that churns out 167ps and 350nm of torque. What do you think is Indian specs trail hawk can do better or give similar performance? Please advise as we are planning to buy one. Thank you. All the very for your future videos.
It should be illegal to call an SUV with an AWD system a 4x4. Even the buttons say 4 low, but it doesn't have a 2 speed transfer case. While it performs well for what it is, they need to stop calling their buttons 4lo and 4wd lock. I mean WTF.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers If you're saying something is 4wd then people know it to be a 2 speed transfer case with 4hi and 4lo. If a vehicle doesn't have that it's AWD.
@@pacattack81 These are only spoken, informal definitions. There are no official norms, there is no law defining the systems and namings. Furthermore - If you look at J1952 by SAE, there's even no names like 4x4 or 4WD, all starts with AWD. That's why sticking to namings is pointless, what's import is the mechanical structure of the system.
I am glad to hear that the Jeep Compass has the 20:1 "granny" gear reduction that can be selected in rough patches. I am surprised more SUV's do not have this feature.
I think you should do a video with a few "soft roaders" and run something like that course in each of them, then swap the tires out for some good AT's and run the course again to show the difference. Maybe run them all using stock tires and then swap to the AT's using the same tire/tread pattern and run the test again. I think it would highlight even more which one has the best off road programing.
Take the new Crosstrek wilderness over this all day.. Feel like it would handle this course better, also has better ground clearance and a way friendlier pricetag fully loaded
Sounds like they have resolved the 2 issues that prevented me from buying a Compass Trailhawk before: low power and the 9-speed transmission (assuming this new 8-speed is a good transmission)
Test drove a 2023 Compass a few months ago. I really liked the performance. It wasn't neck-snapping, but it was quick enough to be an enjoyable drive. The interior is very nice too, but it was just a little too cramped for a 6' 3" person with long legs. I don't like my right knee resting against a hard center console. Its not that its so small I can't drive it, but there are roomier options for the price (which is too high imo).
@@frankENZC no it wou,d be too tall. I am 5-11 and I fit fine. I have driven both and prefer Subaru forester for comfort but tbh compass seemed a bit nicer inside and it’s off-road abilities really surprised me. They had a off-road course were I live and I couldn’t believe that it handles it. Compass runs 32 while Subaru 40 so it’s a tough call.
Exactly! I'd be interested to find out how flat the vehicle needs to be where it doesn't run into this issue. There are steep hills that people live on and it's just wild it's not a safety issue to let people go without a seatbelt
Great review. Thanks for doing it. How does this compare to a Subaru cross trek or forester. Debating between this and those since you can get these for 32000 now
Are you going to purchase it? If you’re going to own for the long run, Subaru easily is a more reliable vehicle than the Jeep. If you’re going to lease it and don’t care, go wild. The Subaru is also a much safer vehicle. If you’re worried about prices, Jeep has a lot of inventory so you’ll most likely get a better price compared to a MSRP Subaru. Hope that helps.
@@atmartensas an owner of a 2023 Outback XT I would not say this is accurate. I got my Outback well under invoice. As for long term reliability, I leased my Subaru specifically due to all of the issues that crop up later on. I would say lease both the Subaru and Jeep in this scenario. Although both Jeep and Subaru owners will tell us that we are both wrong and reliability is phenomenal on both. History states otherwise.
@@atmartens I agree. I am looking to purchase. I would prefer Subaru but wilderness is about 40. Can get trailhawk compass for 32 . Tough call. Appreciate your input
I'm not a big fan of Subaru, but I would take either the Crosstrek or the Forester over a Compass every day. The Jeep is more expensive for mediocre benefit. They're all pretty generic Crossovers.
The lack of power in the compass completely changed my wife and I's vehicle trajectory away from Jeep. I had a 2dr Rubicon with plans to trade it for a Gladiator after she traded her Mazda SUV for something new. She really liked the looks of the Trailhawk Compass but it was SLOW so we waited for the Bronco Sport to come out. We now have a First Edition Sport, a Bronco Raptor and a 2dr Badlands on order to replace the Sport. If the Compass had more power we would likely still both be driving Jeeps.
I like the look of both the bronco sport and trailhawk but I like the more luxury cabin in the jeep, 360 camera and the wireless car play. On the other hand my cabin will be getting banged up & dirty w equipment so the sport is more practical there. I guess my question is are y’all happy w the badlands?
My washed up 1999 250k mile isuzu rodeo 4x4 with True locking diff on ko2 all terrain tires will walk those trails in wet conditions 😂 my brother has a 87 nissan pathfinder 4x4 we beat the crap out of them offroad and they keep going..they don't build vehicles like they use 2..wish I could find a 80s model hilux truck for a reasonable price motors were bullet proof and they are rugged offroaders
Wrong friend, even with traction control off it comes back on when wheel speed hits factory ( Nanny) setting. These Nanny’s or as you say “come on it’s figuring it out” doesn’t work when momentum (power) is cut your stuck again.Unless you know how to disable it temporarily for real.😊
Not having 10" of ground clearance is a huge disappointment. They should just leave the suspension alone and put a bigger tire on the trailhawk to hit 10" of clearance to compete with the Subaru Wilderness.
What I have figured out with my Jeep Grand Cherokee is that ROCK mode is more of an OFF ROAD mode. I use it for all types of terrains when I am off the beaten path. Sand mode, Mud mode, and Snow do not allocate power to the wheels with traction well. Rock mode does.
Dead on. TC on Jeep CUVs is mediocre unless Rock mode is engaged.
Rock mode.. love these salesman
Videos…!! Lol…!!
The reflection at the beginning is one of the reasons why I dont understand why car companies are using piano black. What is the benefit over just a matte plastic? It scratches, it reflects and smudges. Just a terrible interior design choice.
The 2024 Compass Trailhawk comes standard with AT3W tires and make a hell of a difference....
The rims look cooler on the 2023 though.
As a Subaru fan, I like seeing that the Forester is in the comparison with some Jeep crossovers and the Bronco Sport.
Always love your videos. Not done watching yet though. Its still a jeep. I wouldnt buy. But still ready to see what happens!
How in the world is this economy box almost $50k USD MSRP????!?
Inflation....plus stupid people keep buying this overpriced garbage so automakers just keep on raising the prices.
A lot of people put all terrains on these and take them on badge of honor trails and do well. People also need to realize someone buying this is not cross shopping a wrangler or 4runner because obviously those are better off road. Youre comparing a CUV to a full sized suv with locker/low range, solid axels.
We've done the same. Modern brake-vectoring systems are pretty good when equipped with the right tires.
They're all turbos now so no need to designate it. I'm not likely to go there, so I have a new 2023 Compass Limited. Great when they have a 15% off sale, otherwise not sure what I would have bought. Possibly the Mazda CX-5, the CX-50 rides like a proverbial brick.
Jeeps look cooler then Mazdas
To go off-road, it misses out on a diesel-powered engine. In Brazil, this car is offered with a 2.0 Turbo diesel with 170hp, but with 350 N.m (258 lb/ft) of torque and a ZF 9-speed transmission. The extra torque helps a lot in situations where the AWD system is managing the torque split. However, for the next year, the diesel will be gone to welcome the 2.0T Hurricane with 270hp from the Wrangler
Great video! Just took mine to Gulches ORV park waterloo SC. it did great, and glad a brought the rock sliders!😂
Over $40k??? Should not be called a TrailHawk without the all terrain tires and a ELSD
Why doesn’t the 4wd lock mode actually LOCK the damn wheels?
Test the 2023 Outlander PHEV
Well, a little lift with proper beefier A/T-s should do the job for the most cases of application of this good looking small vehicle. I like the overhangs and bumpers, and thank God no horrendous plastic cladding everywhere, which per opinion of one Japanese brand should underline extreme off-road capabilities 😁
🤪 this is hysterical.. gotta keep
Three thousand RPMs .. select D3 .. and…Goooo…!!!!💨
@drivingsportstv
Hello which car has the better overall awd? Subaru Forester 2.0 e- boxer or the Jeep compass trailhawk 4xe ?
I like you content
I can’t even finish watching this. I feel like my Cherokee Trailhawk with a V6, AT tires, and a rear locker would’ve crawled up that first run no problem. Stellantis killed the Cherokee for this. And it’s $46k?? Give me the Subaru Outback Wilderness. No brainer.
I appreciate the little spotlights where you compare it to other cars and explain each one's technology...
Q: What will be the performance of the Forester and the Crosstrek on the same trail?
They would cut power a lot more because their cvt’s are known for overheating easily
@@brandonruhl1639 wow! Interesting, and yeah I've seen a lot of off-roading videos using crossovers and SUVs with CVTs, and most of them show the 'overheating' message at one point, but I've never seen a Subaru doing that, so that's why? it cuts the power to avoid it? But at the same time, they are still more capable than other cars using CVTs...
He's done the course with a Forester Wilderness with ease. Subaru doesn't have the overheating issue.
@@TheDryToalla you must not have watched any videos at all so stop the 🧢
Ryan do you ever test Maserati or Alfa Romeo?
46k for this thing? 25k max.
It's not 2002 anymore
@@Memetologist you gonna buy it for 46?
For something that would have cost about $15-19k a few years ago. With a piss poor AWD system too...not impressed at all with the stuff Jeep...err...Chrysler....err...Stellantis is doing.
@@wildbill23c $15-19K what you think this is the 80's? wow people come on you can't be that......
@@Qugie It isnt worth much more than that
That sounds really expensive for that car.
Yep, paying for the Jeep stickers is all you are doing, not any better than every other car based AWD hatchbacks out there.
Do any of the modes not cut power?/
Can you do the Ascent next?
i have seen other review for this car and for cherokee and when the car is in full articulation with one wheel from each side on the air if you try to open and close the door of the passenger it stuck and does not close normal. Among many crossovers the only cars with this problem, bad body structure
Wow, This is just marketing for a plain crossover. Slapping a badge that said Trailhawk and Trail-rated don't make it a Swiss army knife. This is just a lot of buttons that make you feel it has some extra goodies but it is just another software setting, nothing actually mechanically extra here. I have seen a Subaru doing a better job than this Compass with all the settings active. Very disappointed with Jeep and their marketing team that add badges to vehicles that actually aren't capable to stand behind what that badge means.
I really dislike how these new vehicles cut power even when you floor it. It's like you aren't the real driver anymore.,
Nanny country we live in, have to control how fast you fly off the side of a hill too.
46k for a Jeep Compass lol f no. No wonder Jeep can’t sell them
I literally cannot believe that this class of vehicle costs even a penny above $40k...
Hum. I’m not even sure that’d do well in simple deep snow…
I just don't understand why have this and also the Cherokee. I'd rather them consolidate the two and take the best from both.
Cherokee is dead. There’s your answer.
Even jeep knows it’s a tire issue. They’re changing the tires for 2024.
Who buys this thing for such an insane amount of money when a much better Subaru Forester is available?
People who just absolutely hate Subaru LOL. I wouldn't mind a Forester or Outback Wilderness....one of them might replace my old and grumpy 2005 Ford Taurus in the near future.
I had nothing but problems with my 2020 Outback... sure it would go absolutely anywhere, but it spent so much time at the shop.
i was shocked when this so called jeep stucked on the hill.
I'm not surprised at all, the Grand Cherokee, Wrangler and Gladiator are the only Jeeps I'd even consider anymore, and none of them have decent engine options anymore so I'd avoid them all anyways.
It costs how much?! 🤯
...Staring at $36,000 for a tiny crapbox Fiat? Why would anyone buy this piece of junk?
People pay 3 times that for range rovers that spend majority of their time broken down in the shop. So yeah, expensive but Im sure they will have a market.
Way way over priced
Surprised that for the TrailHawk edition they put the Falken Wildpeak HT and not the Wildpeak A/T Trail which is more suited for this vehical.
They know their customers don't actually use it
I agree. I don't expect AT3Ws, but A/T trail would have suited it.
100% of all these vehicles sold will never go offroad.
@@TexasStormChaser I will not be dignifying this with an actual response.
@@TexasStormChaser not like they can handle it lmao
These american companies are a disgrace the way the keep Increasing prices.
LOL, umm every automaker out there has drastically increased their prices....and lowered their quality standards with garbage turbo charged engines in place of V8's...cough....cough...TOYOTA
@wildbill23c oh I agree but I'm american so I hold our country to a higher standard. Japan can do what they want but if America did right by its base then our automakers would be killing it.
Hard pass
47k compass..... !!!! God save stellantis greadiness !!!!!!! U get outback wilderness + 10k in ur hand . or even a pilot trail edition with 3k more . man these guys are ridiculous to price like this .
All that without swearing, well done
😳 46 Thousand!!
Got mine for 40000 even during a dale Jun 2023...brand new compass trailhawk with tow hitch
@@enochgray4910 lmfaoo car's worth 30k tops PoS
Too expensive for the size.
Putting the trailhawk badge on this type of baby SUV basically destroyed all the significance of that name trailhawk. Such a shame
Its like Toyota TRDing everything.
50k for a loaded Jeep Compass? My god what has this world come to.
People are stupid enough to pay those prices so automakers just keep jacking up the prices on vehicles.
It’s a Jeep. Nobody buys them. You get a 36 month lease and throw them away like a Bic lighter. Then the predatory ‘buy here pay here’ used car dealers sell them to the black communities at 29% interest.
$46,000 for a COMPASS? I remember when the compass was supposed to be the cheap jeep. I’ll stick with Subaru for much less money
46k? you can get a 4runner for this price
can and did 😊- it won't win any speed contests, but I'm hoping to have tried and true 4Runner for at least a decade. Wilson Toyota Ames- best buying experience and I'm in my 50's. cheers
They put that hurricane engine in everything now, good engine, huge improvement on the poop tigershark! Only downside is that these things are so expensive.
Are they reliable? I hear a lot of pros and cons when it comes to jeep.
Beeping Sensors would annoy me
I get that it's a totally different kind of vehicle for totally different duty, but that thing is $5k more than I paid for a Kia Stinger GT2 in June of 2020. Shockingly expensive for what it is.
Agreed, total rip-off not even including dealer fees.
Almost 50K, for a measly 200 hp? Ouch! Sure fully loaded as it starts with 36k.. So again almost 40k for 200hp?
200hp seems low to me for a 2.0T… but better than it was I guess.
Stellantis doesn't want the Compass to compete with Dodge Hornet, which has the same engine, but it is tuned for more power in that application.
It's appropriate for an off-road vehicle of the size, in this day and age.
Exactly my thought! Should be closer to 250hp if we compare it with other vehicles of the same category.
At least the Compass AWD system didn’t overheat like it did last time but it’s still not as good as the Forester Wilderness.
That wasn’t jeeps fault. That was down to the ZF 9 speed not being well suited for offroad
@@brandonruhl1639lol ur funny. I suppose that zf just forced itself on that little jeep.
@@Maverick_-nq5lc kinda. Chrysler had a big deal with ZF and ZF wanted Chrysler to use their transmissions in more vehicles than just the Ram trucks. So they put the 9 speed into the 200, Compass, Cherokee, Renegade and many others just to keep ZF happy so they can continue to use the 8 speed in their best selling vehicles.
That’s happend because he switched the tyres broh .. I have the same jeep using it for offroad and daily drive never showed awd over heat .. & I’m in canada u know the snow conditions over here still no issues ..
Can you prove the Jeep system isn’t better than the Subaru ? The Jeep system shuffles power better and has certain Jeep only trademarks that subarus systems can’t match. We all know Subarus are better than ANY Jeep off road.
Looks are subjective. I’ve always thought this was a nice looking small SUV. But I do see that online that there are some reviewers that don’t like its looks. I think the new engine makes this a very desirable vehicle. But the price is the killer. All loaded up puts the price within range of better vehicles.
Sooooo $47k with the right tires that should come on it anyway 😂
Aint no Subaru, that's for sure.
Another great video, great drone shots too. Why do they badge this a "Trailhawk" then fail to put good AT tires on it, even when topped out at 46K? That's just a poor marketing decision, makes no sense at all.
Most of these will never see dirt. We all know that. Some young girl will be driving her girl friends to wherever, but certainly not on hills, rocky trails, etc. Mom will use it for driving to and from work, and shopping.
@@bondgabebond4907 Wow! Sexist AND stereotypical comment.
Ouch, I would spend the extra $2-3k and get a Rubicon Wrangler
These are actually a lot cheaper now. It’s obviously not near as good off-road than the wrangler
Whether the Ford Bronco Sport, the Jeep Compass, or the Subaru Forester Wilderness, all three are excellent options. You just have to choose which one suits you best. I'd choose the Bronco Sport.
Im a Bronco sport fan too, but its super cheap plastic trim, especially around the infotainment system is a big turn off for me. But I like the rest of the Bronco
The Forester Wilderness has better torque vectoring in extreme situations. You didn’t have to use momentum like you did with this Compass. At the Compass AWD system didn’t overheat like it did last time.
Forester just needs an engine upgrade
I agree I would rather have a forester wilderness but they run 40. I can get compass for 32. Not sure what is the better option
@@billricheter5678 The Forester Wilderness starts at $34k and the Compass starts at $36k. He states that in the video.
@@tinker1148 I know. But at our local jeep they will sell compass trailhawk for 32. It has a lot of rebates on it. Subaru has none and isnt negotiable
I was really because of the tires. This Compass's 4X4 system is superior to Subaru's AWD systems. (For off-roading anyways)
Well I am Definitely Sold on NOT getting a Jeep Compass Trailhawk! Forester or Forerunner for me in 2024😊🤙
Just got my 4runner- love that it's tried and true.. wanted to get one before they go 4 cylinder with a turbo
@@klb3400 What year and model did you get and what color that's very cool
Well... there's another vehicle I can cross off my list.
I just dont get why those * 4x4 * dont just put the power to all 4 Its always figuring out one wheel at a time making them stuck in the end My Subaru did the same
A good old fashion locker would really help @Jeep.
I agree, why do I need a compass when I can get a Subaru wilderness. Easy decision for me
Only reason is these are about 8000 less right now.
@billricheter5678 I would rather pay the extra. Nothing against Jeep
These things have a lot of issues. Look at all the complaints.
Not a tire issue. It wasn't moving power around. Opposite corners spin a lot but no power shifting happens.
it looked like it was braking the spinning wheels pretty well actually. you cant expect HT tires to do much in this terrain. definitely a tire issue
Out of those 3 you mentioned for a pick, I agree. Living in the same state you know all these hills mild to steep are a lousy place to challenge brakes for long periods of time. I much prefer a proper transmission to shift down with to engine brake more than riding the pads.
46k will put you in a 4 runner.
Only a complete fool would buy that over a wrangler
Perfectly shows how crossover is mostly marketing!
I agree but this Jeep is more capable than what is being implied.
It has a Power Takeoff Unit (PTU) , a tried and true transfer case. PTU simply means that it's front wheel drive. A PTU is simply a front wheel drive transfer case.
Ryan is right though, It seems to be a bit worse than a standard (RWD) transfer case. But to act like it's overall less capable is just silly. It's a true 4X4.
I like the way he's down playing it because it's being marketed towards women.
People are commenting that the Forester is 40k and the Compass is only 32. However a Forester is only 40k if you load it down with all available options. Actually it’s a touch under 40 according to a build I did on the Subaru website. The 32k Compass is the bare bones Trailhawk version. The version Ryan has in this video is the loaded version. So if you compare loaded to loaded Forester to Compass, Subaru wins hands down price wise. Plus more ground clearance and more reliability.
I thought the same thing!
$40k is too much. $30k should be tops. Cars are too expensive.
The tires are such a let down. Anyone who off-roads knows that tires are the most important thing as bad rubber can even bring a wrangler to its knees. With that being said, the course is pretty challenging and it looks like it did great even with the highway slicks. Put some proper rubber on it, one size up for slightly more clearance and I’d bet it would be a world of difference.
yea id put even a more aggressive tire alone would do a better job than OEM 's
Hi I’m from india, I love to watch your videos and get so many information about the card. can you please suggest what would be the performance of Volkswagen Tiguan on the same terrain where you drove this trail hawk? Which will be better trailhowk or Tiguan ? In india we got Jeep Compass trail hawk with 2 Ltr diesel that churns out 167ps and 350nm of torque. What do you think is Indian specs trail hawk can do better or give similar performance? Please advise as we are planning to buy one. Thank you. All the very for your future videos.
All the very best for your future videos.
I would like to see how much better it would have done with proper tires.
It should be illegal to call an SUV with an AWD system a 4x4. Even the buttons say 4 low, but it doesn't have a 2 speed transfer case. While it performs well for what it is, they need to stop calling their buttons 4lo and 4wd lock. I mean WTF.
There's no formal classification of namings 4x4, 4WD or AWD so manufacturers are calling their systems as they want.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers If you're saying something is 4wd then people know it to be a 2 speed transfer case with 4hi and 4lo. If a vehicle doesn't have that it's AWD.
@@pacattack81 These are only spoken, informal definitions. There are no official norms, there is no law defining the systems and namings. Furthermore - If you look at J1952 by SAE, there's even no names like 4x4 or 4WD, all starts with AWD. That's why sticking to namings is pointless, what's import is the mechanical structure of the system.
I am glad to hear that the Jeep Compass has the 20:1 "granny" gear reduction that can be selected in rough patches. I am surprised more SUV's do not have this feature.
Please put this against the Subaru Crosstrek Xmode.
Great review! Hope you’re enjoying the beautiful weather this weekend.
For the price of this campus I would just get the cherokee trailhawk which is a true off-road vehicle.
@@RetirementGoals1 Weird because it's so much better than most the SUV's tested here.
Jeep, no thanks.
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So, the Trailhawk has HT tires??? Well, it'll look nice at the library parking lot.
I think you should do a video with a few "soft roaders" and run something like that course in each of them, then swap the tires out for some good AT's and run the course again to show the difference. Maybe run them all using stock tires and then swap to the AT's using the same tire/tread pattern and run the test again. I think it would highlight even more which one has the best off road programing.
Yes, an apples to apples comparison would be great, considering tires make a huge difference.
$46k for a Compass????
I have the compass trailhawk. There’s no chance it can hang with a forester wilderness. No chance
I owned a 2022 Compass Trailhawk.
$46thousaaaaaaWWHAAAAAT? Outrageous! For 16K less, we'll stick with our Seltos SX.
Take the new Crosstrek wilderness over this all day.. Feel like it would handle this course better, also has better ground clearance and a way friendlier pricetag fully loaded
Sounds like they have resolved the 2 issues that prevented me from buying a Compass Trailhawk before: low power and the 9-speed transmission (assuming this new 8-speed is a good transmission)
Test drove a 2023 Compass a few months ago. I really liked the performance. It wasn't neck-snapping, but it was quick enough to be an enjoyable drive. The interior is very nice too, but it was just a little too cramped for a 6' 3" person with long legs. I don't like my right knee resting against a hard center console. Its not that its so small I can't drive it, but there are roomier options for the price (which is too high imo).
The prices on these is really a head-scratcher. Luckily, Jeep usually ends up with deals or some form of money on the hood.
@@drivingsportsyes. Can get lower end trailhawk for 32500.
I'm 6'2" so the Compass most likely wouldn't be for me. I like the Subaru Outback Wilderness, especially the more ground clearance (9.5").
@@frankENZC no it wou,d be too tall. I am 5-11 and I fit fine. I have driven both and prefer Subaru forester for comfort but tbh compass seemed a bit nicer inside and it’s off-road abilities really surprised me. They had a off-road course were I live and I couldn’t believe that it handles it. Compass runs 32 while Subaru 40 so it’s a tough call.
@@frankENZC The dealer had a Compass and Cherokee side by side. Fit in the Cherokee fine (but its a 10 year old design so I really wasn't interested).
That's blizzard the seat belt is locked while the vehicle is not a flat surface. For $46,000, I feel like there are other better options out there.
Exactly! I'd be interested to find out how flat the vehicle needs to be where it doesn't run into this issue. There are steep hills that people live on and it's just wild it's not a safety issue to let people go without a seatbelt
if i am looking for reliability, how does compass trailhawk compare to other competitors in the same segment
Great review. Thanks for doing it. How does this compare to a Subaru cross trek or forester. Debating between this and those since you can get these for 32000 now
i just got the jeep after riding in those other 2 and im happy with the purchase. new turbo engine is so nice
Are you going to purchase it? If you’re going to own for the long run, Subaru easily is a more reliable vehicle than the Jeep. If you’re going to lease it and don’t care, go wild. The Subaru is also a much safer vehicle. If you’re worried about prices, Jeep has a lot of inventory so you’ll most likely get a better price compared to a MSRP Subaru. Hope that helps.
@@atmartensas an owner of a 2023 Outback XT I would not say this is accurate. I got my Outback well under invoice. As for long term reliability, I leased my Subaru specifically due to all of the issues that crop up later on. I would say lease both the Subaru and Jeep in this scenario. Although both Jeep and Subaru owners will tell us that we are both wrong and reliability is phenomenal on both. History states otherwise.
@@atmartens I agree. I am looking to purchase. I would prefer Subaru but wilderness is about 40. Can get trailhawk compass for 32 . Tough call. Appreciate your input
I'm not a big fan of Subaru, but I would take either the Crosstrek or the Forester over a Compass every day. The Jeep is more expensive for mediocre benefit. They're all pretty generic Crossovers.
The lack of power in the compass completely changed my wife and I's vehicle trajectory away from Jeep. I had a 2dr Rubicon with plans to trade it for a Gladiator after she traded her Mazda SUV for something new. She really liked the looks of the Trailhawk Compass but it was SLOW so we waited for the Bronco Sport to come out.
We now have a First Edition Sport, a Bronco Raptor and a 2dr Badlands on order to replace the Sport.
If the Compass had more power we would likely still both be driving Jeeps.
I like the look of both the bronco sport and trailhawk but I like the more luxury cabin in the jeep, 360 camera and the wireless car play. On the other hand my cabin will be getting banged up & dirty w equipment so the sport is more practical there. I guess my question is are y’all happy w the badlands?
My washed up 1999 250k mile isuzu rodeo 4x4 with True locking diff on ko2 all terrain tires will walk those trails in wet conditions 😂 my brother has a 87 nissan pathfinder 4x4 we beat the crap out of them offroad and they keep going..they don't build vehicles like they use 2..wish I could find a 80s model hilux truck for a reasonable price motors were bullet proof and they are rugged offroaders
Wrong friend, even with traction control off it comes back on when wheel speed hits factory ( Nanny) setting. These Nanny’s or as you say “come on it’s figuring it out” doesn’t work when momentum (power) is cut your stuck again.Unless you know how to disable it temporarily for real.😊
Not having 10" of ground clearance is a huge disappointment. They should just leave the suspension alone and put a bigger tire on the trailhawk to hit 10" of clearance to compete with the Subaru Wilderness.
Why is this engine so weak ?? I have a 2019 Jeep Cherokee with the 2.0L Turbo but it makes 273 hp
$46k for a Jeep that can’t Jeep. That’s disappointing. FCA will slap on a trail rated badge on anything with four wheel drive these days.