People are commenting that the Forester is 40k and the Compass is only 32. However a Forester is only 40k if you load it down with all available options. Actually it’s a touch under 40 according to a build I did on the Subaru website. The 32k Compass is the bare bones Trailhawk version. The version Ryan has in this video is the loaded version. So if you compare loaded to loaded Forester to Compass, Subaru wins hands down price wise. Plus more ground clearance and more reliability.
They put that hurricane engine in everything now, good engine, huge improvement on the poop tigershark! Only downside is that these things are so expensive.
What I have figured out with my Jeep Grand Cherokee is that ROCK mode is more of an OFF ROAD mode. I use it for all types of terrains when I am off the beaten path. Sand mode, Mud mode, and Snow do not allocate power to the wheels with traction well. Rock mode does.
Out of those 3 you mentioned for a pick, I agree. Living in the same state you know all these hills mild to steep are a lousy place to challenge brakes for long periods of time. I much prefer a proper transmission to shift down with to engine brake more than riding the pads.
47k compass..... !!!! God save stellantis greadiness !!!!!!! U get outback wilderness + 10k in ur hand . or even a pilot trail edition with 3k more . man these guys are ridiculous to price like this .
The Forester Wilderness has better torque vectoring in extreme situations. You didn’t have to use momentum like you did with this Compass. At the Compass AWD system didn’t overheat like it did last time.
The reflection at the beginning is one of the reasons why I dont understand why car companies are using piano black. What is the benefit over just a matte plastic? It scratches, it reflects and smudges. Just a terrible interior design choice.
Whether the Ford Bronco Sport, the Jeep Compass, or the Subaru Forester Wilderness, all three are excellent options. You just have to choose which one suits you best. I'd choose the Bronco Sport.
Im a Bronco sport fan too, but its super cheap plastic trim, especially around the infotainment system is a big turn off for me. But I like the rest of the Bronco
Test drove a 2023 Compass a few months ago. I really liked the performance. It wasn't neck-snapping, but it was quick enough to be an enjoyable drive. The interior is very nice too, but it was just a little too cramped for a 6' 3" person with long legs. I don't like my right knee resting against a hard center console. Its not that its so small I can't drive it, but there are roomier options for the price (which is too high imo).
@@frankENZC no it wou,d be too tall. I am 5-11 and I fit fine. I have driven both and prefer Subaru forester for comfort but tbh compass seemed a bit nicer inside and it’s off-road abilities really surprised me. They had a off-road course were I live and I couldn’t believe that it handles it. Compass runs 32 while Subaru 40 so it’s a tough call.
@@Maverick_-nq5lc kinda. Chrysler had a big deal with ZF and ZF wanted Chrysler to use their transmissions in more vehicles than just the Ram trucks. So they put the 9 speed into the 200, Compass, Cherokee, Renegade and many others just to keep ZF happy so they can continue to use the 8 speed in their best selling vehicles.
That’s happend because he switched the tyres broh .. I have the same jeep using it for offroad and daily drive never showed awd over heat .. & I’m in canada u know the snow conditions over here still no issues ..
Can you prove the Jeep system isn’t better than the Subaru ? The Jeep system shuffles power better and has certain Jeep only trademarks that subarus systems can’t match. We all know Subarus are better than ANY Jeep off road.
I am glad to hear that the Jeep Compass has the 20:1 "granny" gear reduction that can be selected in rough patches. I am surprised more SUV's do not have this feature.
Looks are subjective. I’ve always thought this was a nice looking small SUV. But I do see that online that there are some reviewers that don’t like its looks. I think the new engine makes this a very desirable vehicle. But the price is the killer. All loaded up puts the price within range of better vehicles.
Another great video, great drone shots too. Why do they badge this a "Trailhawk" then fail to put good AT tires on it, even when topped out at 46K? That's just a poor marketing decision, makes no sense at all.
Most of these will never see dirt. We all know that. Some young girl will be driving her girl friends to wherever, but certainly not on hills, rocky trails, etc. Mom will use it for driving to and from work, and shopping.
I agree but this Jeep is more capable than what is being implied. It has a Power Takeoff Unit (PTU) , a tried and true transfer case. PTU simply means that it's front wheel drive. A PTU is simply a front wheel drive transfer case. Ryan is right though, It seems to be a bit worse than a standard (RWD) transfer case. But to act like it's overall less capable is just silly. It's a true 4X4. I like the way he's down playing it because it's being marketed towards women.
@@hermanjohnson9180has this replaced the Cherokee Trailhawk? I need a more compact 4x4 with around 10” ground clearance. Prefer something with more comfort than a Wrangler.
A lot of people put all terrains on these and take them on badge of honor trails and do well. People also need to realize someone buying this is not cross shopping a wrangler or 4runner because obviously those are better off road. Youre comparing a CUV to a full sized suv with locker/low range, solid axels.
I get that it's a totally different kind of vehicle for totally different duty, but that thing is $5k more than I paid for a Kia Stinger GT2 in June of 2020. Shockingly expensive for what it is.
Do not have trailhawk edition but our 2023 compass has tons of the options shown in the video and yeah we paid $34k. It does NOT drive like a Jeep more like a sporty feel to it ... and as a daily driver my wife loves it . We go on long drive vacations from time to time and for a long 1k mile trip the Compass is exceptionally comfortable.
Sounds like they have resolved the 2 issues that prevented me from buying a Compass Trailhawk before: low power and the 9-speed transmission (assuming this new 8-speed is a good transmission)
It’s a Jeep. Nobody buys them. You get a 36 month lease and throw them away like a Bic lighter. Then the predatory ‘buy here pay here’ used car dealers sell them to the black communities at 29% interest.
I think you should do a video with a few "soft roaders" and run something like that course in each of them, then swap the tires out for some good AT's and run the course again to show the difference. Maybe run them all using stock tires and then swap to the AT's using the same tire/tread pattern and run the test again. I think it would highlight even more which one has the best off road programing.
can and did 😊- it won't win any speed contests, but I'm hoping to have tried and true 4Runner for at least a decade. Wilson Toyota Ames- best buying experience and I'm in my 50's. cheers
I just dont get why those * 4x4 * dont just put the power to all 4 Its always figuring out one wheel at a time making them stuck in the end My Subaru did the same
The lack of power in the compass completely changed my wife and I's vehicle trajectory away from Jeep. I had a 2dr Rubicon with plans to trade it for a Gladiator after she traded her Mazda SUV for something new. She really liked the looks of the Trailhawk Compass but it was SLOW so we waited for the Bronco Sport to come out. We now have a First Edition Sport, a Bronco Raptor and a 2dr Badlands on order to replace the Sport. If the Compass had more power we would likely still both be driving Jeeps.
I like the look of both the bronco sport and trailhawk but I like the more luxury cabin in the jeep, 360 camera and the wireless car play. On the other hand my cabin will be getting banged up & dirty w equipment so the sport is more practical there. I guess my question is are y’all happy w the badlands?
The tires are such a let down. Anyone who off-roads knows that tires are the most important thing as bad rubber can even bring a wrangler to its knees. With that being said, the course is pretty challenging and it looks like it did great even with the highway slicks. Put some proper rubber on it, one size up for slightly more clearance and I’d bet it would be a world of difference.
I’m using the 2022 NA 2.4 model trail hawk for the last one year .. Used it for some offroads too .. I think my non turbo model has more torq which is help ful to bumb obstacles very easily..
If you just take traction control off and lock it in 4 and keep a bit more momentum and throttle these things are great and dont usually get stuck on mild offroading situations. And of course better tires.
They're all turbos now so no need to designate it. I'm not likely to go there, so I have a new 2023 Compass Limited. Great when they have a 15% off sale, otherwise not sure what I would have bought. Possibly the Mazda CX-5, the CX-50 rides like a proverbial brick.
Great review. Thanks for doing it. How does this compare to a Subaru cross trek or forester. Debating between this and those since you can get these for 32000 now
Are you going to purchase it? If you’re going to own for the long run, Subaru easily is a more reliable vehicle than the Jeep. If you’re going to lease it and don’t care, go wild. The Subaru is also a much safer vehicle. If you’re worried about prices, Jeep has a lot of inventory so you’ll most likely get a better price compared to a MSRP Subaru. Hope that helps.
@@atmartensas an owner of a 2023 Outback XT I would not say this is accurate. I got my Outback well under invoice. As for long term reliability, I leased my Subaru specifically due to all of the issues that crop up later on. I would say lease both the Subaru and Jeep in this scenario. Although both Jeep and Subaru owners will tell us that we are both wrong and reliability is phenomenal on both. History states otherwise.
@@atmartens I agree. I am looking to purchase. I would prefer Subaru but wilderness is about 40. Can get trailhawk compass for 32 . Tough call. Appreciate your input
I'm not a big fan of Subaru, but I would take either the Crosstrek or the Forester over a Compass every day. The Jeep is more expensive for mediocre benefit. They're all pretty generic Crossovers.
Hi I’m from india, I love to watch your videos and get so many information about the card. can you please suggest what would be the performance of Volkswagen Tiguan on the same terrain where you drove this trail hawk? Which will be better trailhowk or Tiguan ? In india we got Jeep Compass trail hawk with 2 Ltr diesel that churns out 167ps and 350nm of torque. What do you think is Indian specs trail hawk can do better or give similar performance? Please advise as we are planning to buy one. Thank you. All the very for your future videos.
Well, a little lift with proper beefier A/T-s should do the job for the most cases of application of this good looking small vehicle. I like the overhangs and bumpers, and thank God no horrendous plastic cladding everywhere, which per opinion of one Japanese brand should underline extreme off-road capabilities 😁
Captain...I believe we need more power! I'm giving it all she got! More power, less problems up the hill say a 5.0 L V8 that gets 500 hp and 510 lb feet of torque..yep that should do it for this jeep. 😜
Two questions: 1) Tge 2.0L Turbo made 270 Jp in the Cherokee. The Compass only gets 200hp? 2). Since they are canceling the Cherokee, why wouldn’t they carry over the great Destination A/T tires from the Cherokee Trailhawk?
To go off-road, it misses out on a diesel-powered engine. In Brazil, this car is offered with a 2.0 Turbo diesel with 170hp, but with 350 N.m (258 lb/ft) of torque and a ZF 9-speed transmission. The extra torque helps a lot in situations where the AWD system is managing the torque split. However, for the next year, the diesel will be gone to welcome the 2.0T Hurricane with 270hp from the Wrangler
My washed up 1999 250k mile isuzu rodeo 4x4 with True locking diff on ko2 all terrain tires will walk those trails in wet conditions 😂 my brother has a 87 nissan pathfinder 4x4 we beat the crap out of them offroad and they keep going..they don't build vehicles like they use 2..wish I could find a 80s model hilux truck for a reasonable price motors were bullet proof and they are rugged offroaders
Very often reviewers say that tires are the issue on these sort of cars. I disagree. The issue is suspension travel. Even on basic obstacles, the suspension travel is so little that the tires are simply not contacting the ground with enough pressure to do anything. It doesn't matter what the tread pattern is like. I can guarantee that those same exact tires equipped on a solid axle vehicle would roll right over those spots where the crossover spins out.
LOL, umm every automaker out there has drastically increased their prices....and lowered their quality standards with garbage turbo charged engines in place of V8's...cough....cough...TOYOTA
@wildbill23c oh I agree but I'm american so I hold our country to a higher standard. Japan can do what they want but if America did right by its base then our automakers would be killing it.
I appreciate the little spotlights where you compare it to other cars and explain each one's technology... Q: What will be the performance of the Forester and the Crosstrek on the same trail?
@@brandonruhl1639 wow! Interesting, and yeah I've seen a lot of off-roading videos using crossovers and SUVs with CVTs, and most of them show the 'overheating' message at one point, but I've never seen a Subaru doing that, so that's why? it cuts the power to avoid it? But at the same time, they are still more capable than other cars using CVTs...
Need advice. This for 32500 lower end trailhawk or Subaru cross trek. Would love opinions and advice. Also how does this compare to ford bronco sport and not the badlands edition
@@drivingsports thanks for your advice. How does bronco sport non badlands compare to the Subaru. Also thanks for your vids. No one does anything like them.
@@drivingsports Add to that the Subaru is available without a turbo....avoid those stupid turbo engines, people think they're great because they sound cute, but they aren't made for longevity in mind, and a regular naturally aspirated engine especially those 4 cylinder boxer engines are much easier and cheaper to service and repair when needed.
I really hate the beeps and the “serv 4wd” warning this vehicle (and much of the competition on the compact suv market) does when the 4wd can’t do the job, switching the four wheel drive off and going back to 4x2 until it “cools down” (I doesn’t know exactly what it does) and them turns the 4wd on again after… those beeps and warnings are really frustrating
It should be illegal to call an SUV with an AWD system a 4x4. Even the buttons say 4 low, but it doesn't have a 2 speed transfer case. While it performs well for what it is, they need to stop calling their buttons 4lo and 4wd lock. I mean WTF.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers If you're saying something is 4wd then people know it to be a 2 speed transfer case with 4hi and 4lo. If a vehicle doesn't have that it's AWD.
@@pacattack81 These are only spoken, informal definitions. There are no official norms, there is no law defining the systems and namings. Furthermore - If you look at J1952 by SAE, there's even no names like 4x4 or 4WD, all starts with AWD. That's why sticking to namings is pointless, what's import is the mechanical structure of the system.
Wrong friend, even with traction control off it comes back on when wheel speed hits factory ( Nanny) setting. These Nanny’s or as you say “come on it’s figuring it out” doesn’t work when momentum (power) is cut your stuck again.Unless you know how to disable it temporarily for real.😊
For something that would have cost about $15-19k a few years ago. With a piss poor AWD system too...not impressed at all with the stuff Jeep...err...Chrysler....err...Stellantis is doing.
Based on recommendation- in have tried - 6 months majority of time I have been made to run around workshop with unrelible or tangled care. Substandard components malfed towords customer
TrailDove rather than a TrailHawk. If lots of unmaintained road or trail driving is in your future, a base Wrangler (add locking rear diff), is a much better option. If a soft roader (any) with an "OffRoad" package is what you want, never leave the pavement without a good self recovery kit. Many of these softroaders are getting people too deep in the woods where the brake actuated traction control devices are overwhelmed and are leaving them stranded.
i have seen other review for this car and for cherokee and when the car is in full articulation with one wheel from each side on the air if you try to open and close the door of the passenger it stuck and does not close normal. Among many crossovers the only cars with this problem, bad body structure
Take the new Crosstrek wilderness over this all day.. Feel like it would handle this course better, also has better ground clearance and a way friendlier pricetag fully loaded
I can’t even finish watching this. I feel like my Cherokee Trailhawk with a V6, AT tires, and a rear locker would’ve crawled up that first run no problem. Stellantis killed the Cherokee for this. And it’s $46k?? Give me the Subaru Outback Wilderness. No brainer.
People are commenting that the Forester is 40k and the Compass is only 32. However a Forester is only 40k if you load it down with all available options. Actually it’s a touch under 40 according to a build I did on the Subaru website. The 32k Compass is the bare bones Trailhawk version. The version Ryan has in this video is the loaded version. So if you compare loaded to loaded Forester to Compass, Subaru wins hands down price wise. Plus more ground clearance and more reliability.
I thought the same thing!
$40k is too much. $30k should be tops. Cars are too expensive.
Surprised that for the TrailHawk edition they put the Falken Wildpeak HT and not the Wildpeak A/T Trail which is more suited for this vehical.
They know their customers don't actually use it
I agree. I don't expect AT3Ws, but A/T trail would have suited it.
100% of all these vehicles sold will never go offroad.
@@TexasStormChaser I will not be dignifying this with an actual response.
@@TexasStormChaser not like they can handle it lmao
They put that hurricane engine in everything now, good engine, huge improvement on the poop tigershark! Only downside is that these things are so expensive.
Are they reliable? I hear a lot of pros and cons when it comes to jeep.
What I have figured out with my Jeep Grand Cherokee is that ROCK mode is more of an OFF ROAD mode. I use it for all types of terrains when I am off the beaten path. Sand mode, Mud mode, and Snow do not allocate power to the wheels with traction well. Rock mode does.
Dead on. TC on Jeep CUVs is mediocre unless Rock mode is engaged.
Rock mode.. love these salesman
Videos…!! Lol…!!
Great review! Hope you’re enjoying the beautiful weather this weekend.
Out of those 3 you mentioned for a pick, I agree. Living in the same state you know all these hills mild to steep are a lousy place to challenge brakes for long periods of time. I much prefer a proper transmission to shift down with to engine brake more than riding the pads.
47k compass..... !!!! God save stellantis greadiness !!!!!!! U get outback wilderness + 10k in ur hand . or even a pilot trail edition with 3k more . man these guys are ridiculous to price like this .
All that without swearing, well done
The Forester Wilderness has better torque vectoring in extreme situations. You didn’t have to use momentum like you did with this Compass. At the Compass AWD system didn’t overheat like it did last time.
Forester just needs an engine upgrade
I agree I would rather have a forester wilderness but they run 40. I can get compass for 32. Not sure what is the better option
@@billricheter5678 The Forester Wilderness starts at $34k and the Compass starts at $36k. He states that in the video.
@@tinker1148 I know. But at our local jeep they will sell compass trailhawk for 32. It has a lot of rebates on it. Subaru has none and isnt negotiable
I was really because of the tires. This Compass's 4X4 system is superior to Subaru's AWD systems. (For off-roading anyways)
Always love your videos. Not done watching yet though. Its still a jeep. I wouldnt buy. But still ready to see what happens!
A good old fashion locker would really help @Jeep.
The reflection at the beginning is one of the reasons why I dont understand why car companies are using piano black. What is the benefit over just a matte plastic? It scratches, it reflects and smudges. Just a terrible interior design choice.
😳 46 Thousand!!
Got mine for 40000 even during a dale Jun 2023...brand new compass trailhawk with tow hitch
@@enochgray4910 lmfaoo car's worth 30k tops PoS
a true off road test👍
I have a 2023 JEEP compass trailhawk elite, installed inch and a half lift with 235/65/17 Falken Wildpeak A/T3 tires. Looks great!
How is your overall experience with the vehicle?
As a Subaru fan, I like seeing that the Forester is in the comparison with some Jeep crossovers and the Bronco Sport.
Whether the Ford Bronco Sport, the Jeep Compass, or the Subaru Forester Wilderness, all three are excellent options. You just have to choose which one suits you best. I'd choose the Bronco Sport.
Im a Bronco sport fan too, but its super cheap plastic trim, especially around the infotainment system is a big turn off for me. But I like the rest of the Bronco
Test drove a 2023 Compass a few months ago. I really liked the performance. It wasn't neck-snapping, but it was quick enough to be an enjoyable drive. The interior is very nice too, but it was just a little too cramped for a 6' 3" person with long legs. I don't like my right knee resting against a hard center console. Its not that its so small I can't drive it, but there are roomier options for the price (which is too high imo).
The prices on these is really a head-scratcher. Luckily, Jeep usually ends up with deals or some form of money on the hood.
@@drivingsportsyes. Can get lower end trailhawk for 32500.
I'm 6'2" so the Compass most likely wouldn't be for me. I like the Subaru Outback Wilderness, especially the more ground clearance (9.5").
@@frankENZC no it wou,d be too tall. I am 5-11 and I fit fine. I have driven both and prefer Subaru forester for comfort but tbh compass seemed a bit nicer inside and it’s off-road abilities really surprised me. They had a off-road course were I live and I couldn’t believe that it handles it. Compass runs 32 while Subaru 40 so it’s a tough call.
@@frankENZC The dealer had a Compass and Cherokee side by side. Fit in the Cherokee fine (but its a 10 year old design so I really wasn't interested).
At least the Compass AWD system didn’t overheat like it did last time but it’s still not as good as the Forester Wilderness.
That wasn’t jeeps fault. That was down to the ZF 9 speed not being well suited for offroad
@@brandonruhl1639lol ur funny. I suppose that zf just forced itself on that little jeep.
@@Maverick_-nq5lc kinda. Chrysler had a big deal with ZF and ZF wanted Chrysler to use their transmissions in more vehicles than just the Ram trucks. So they put the 9 speed into the 200, Compass, Cherokee, Renegade and many others just to keep ZF happy so they can continue to use the 8 speed in their best selling vehicles.
That’s happend because he switched the tyres broh .. I have the same jeep using it for offroad and daily drive never showed awd over heat .. & I’m in canada u know the snow conditions over here still no issues ..
Can you prove the Jeep system isn’t better than the Subaru ? The Jeep system shuffles power better and has certain Jeep only trademarks that subarus systems can’t match. We all know Subarus are better than ANY Jeep off road.
I am glad to hear that the Jeep Compass has the 20:1 "granny" gear reduction that can be selected in rough patches. I am surprised more SUV's do not have this feature.
The 2024 Compass Trailhawk comes standard with AT3W tires and make a hell of a difference....
The rims look cooler on the 2023 though.
Looks are subjective. I’ve always thought this was a nice looking small SUV. But I do see that online that there are some reviewers that don’t like its looks. I think the new engine makes this a very desirable vehicle. But the price is the killer. All loaded up puts the price within range of better vehicles.
Another great video, great drone shots too. Why do they badge this a "Trailhawk" then fail to put good AT tires on it, even when topped out at 46K? That's just a poor marketing decision, makes no sense at all.
Most of these will never see dirt. We all know that. Some young girl will be driving her girl friends to wherever, but certainly not on hills, rocky trails, etc. Mom will use it for driving to and from work, and shopping.
@@bondgabebond4907 Wow! Sexist AND stereotypical comment.
Not a tire issue. It wasn't moving power around. Opposite corners spin a lot but no power shifting happens.
it looked like it was braking the spinning wheels pretty well actually. you cant expect HT tires to do much in this terrain. definitely a tire issue
Perfectly shows how crossover is mostly marketing!
I agree but this Jeep is more capable than what is being implied.
It has a Power Takeoff Unit (PTU) , a tried and true transfer case. PTU simply means that it's front wheel drive. A PTU is simply a front wheel drive transfer case.
Ryan is right though, It seems to be a bit worse than a standard (RWD) transfer case. But to act like it's overall less capable is just silly. It's a true 4X4.
I like the way he's down playing it because it's being marketed towards women.
@@hermanjohnson9180has this replaced the Cherokee Trailhawk? I need a more compact 4x4 with around 10” ground clearance. Prefer something with more comfort than a Wrangler.
200hp seems low to me for a 2.0T… but better than it was I guess.
Stellantis doesn't want the Compass to compete with Dodge Hornet, which has the same engine, but it is tuned for more power in that application.
It's appropriate for an off-road vehicle of the size, in this day and age.
Exactly my thought! Should be closer to 250hp if we compare it with other vehicles of the same category.
I agree, why do I need a compass when I can get a Subaru wilderness. Easy decision for me
Only reason is these are about 8000 less right now.
@billricheter5678 I would rather pay the extra. Nothing against Jeep
A lot of people put all terrains on these and take them on badge of honor trails and do well. People also need to realize someone buying this is not cross shopping a wrangler or 4runner because obviously those are better off road. Youre comparing a CUV to a full sized suv with locker/low range, solid axels.
We've done the same. Modern brake-vectoring systems are pretty good when equipped with the right tires.
I get that it's a totally different kind of vehicle for totally different duty, but that thing is $5k more than I paid for a Kia Stinger GT2 in June of 2020. Shockingly expensive for what it is.
Agreed, total rip-off not even including dealer fees.
Do not have trailhawk edition but our 2023 compass has tons of the options shown in the video and yeah we paid $34k. It does NOT drive like a Jeep more like a sporty feel to it ... and as a daily driver my wife loves it . We go on long drive vacations from time to time and for a long 1k mile trip the Compass is exceptionally comfortable.
Thanks for this excellent review!
Sounds like they have resolved the 2 issues that prevented me from buying a Compass Trailhawk before: low power and the 9-speed transmission (assuming this new 8-speed is a good transmission)
Yes ! Been waiting for this one !
My Cherokee Trailhawk does the same thing with the seat belt. They've really got to fix that!
50k for a loaded Jeep Compass? My god what has this world come to.
People are stupid enough to pay those prices so automakers just keep jacking up the prices on vehicles.
It’s a Jeep. Nobody buys them. You get a 36 month lease and throw them away like a Bic lighter. Then the predatory ‘buy here pay here’ used car dealers sell them to the black communities at 29% interest.
I think you should do a video with a few "soft roaders" and run something like that course in each of them, then swap the tires out for some good AT's and run the course again to show the difference. Maybe run them all using stock tires and then swap to the AT's using the same tire/tread pattern and run the test again. I think it would highlight even more which one has the best off road programing.
Yes, an apples to apples comparison would be great, considering tires make a huge difference.
46k? you can get a 4runner for this price
can and did 😊- it won't win any speed contests, but I'm hoping to have tried and true 4Runner for at least a decade. Wilson Toyota Ames- best buying experience and I'm in my 50's. cheers
I just dont get why those * 4x4 * dont just put the power to all 4 Its always figuring out one wheel at a time making them stuck in the end My Subaru did the same
Please put this against the Subaru Crosstrek Xmode.
Great video! Just took mine to Gulches ORV park waterloo SC. it did great, and glad a brought the rock sliders!😂
Ouch, I would spend the extra $2-3k and get a Rubicon Wrangler
These are actually a lot cheaper now. It’s obviously not near as good off-road than the wrangler
The lack of power in the compass completely changed my wife and I's vehicle trajectory away from Jeep. I had a 2dr Rubicon with plans to trade it for a Gladiator after she traded her Mazda SUV for something new. She really liked the looks of the Trailhawk Compass but it was SLOW so we waited for the Bronco Sport to come out.
We now have a First Edition Sport, a Bronco Raptor and a 2dr Badlands on order to replace the Sport.
If the Compass had more power we would likely still both be driving Jeeps.
I like the look of both the bronco sport and trailhawk but I like the more luxury cabin in the jeep, 360 camera and the wireless car play. On the other hand my cabin will be getting banged up & dirty w equipment so the sport is more practical there. I guess my question is are y’all happy w the badlands?
if i am looking for reliability, how does compass trailhawk compare to other competitors in the same segment
I would like to see how much better it would have done with proper tires.
Too expensive for the size.
@drivingsportstv
Hello which car has the better overall awd? Subaru Forester 2.0 e- boxer or the Jeep compass trailhawk 4xe ?
I like you content
Way way over priced
How in the world is this economy box almost $50k USD MSRP????!?
Inflation....plus stupid people keep buying this overpriced garbage so automakers just keep on raising the prices.
Well... there's another vehicle I can cross off my list.
The tires are such a let down. Anyone who off-roads knows that tires are the most important thing as bad rubber can even bring a wrangler to its knees. With that being said, the course is pretty challenging and it looks like it did great even with the highway slicks. Put some proper rubber on it, one size up for slightly more clearance and I’d bet it would be a world of difference.
yea id put even a more aggressive tire alone would do a better job than OEM 's
$46,000 for a COMPASS? I remember when the compass was supposed to be the cheap jeep. I’ll stick with Subaru for much less money
I’m using the 2022 NA 2.4 model trail hawk for the last one year .. Used it for some offroads too .. I think my non turbo model has more torq which is help ful to bumb obstacles very easily..
Your non turbo model has way less torque........
If you just take traction control off and lock it in 4 and keep a bit more momentum and throttle these things are great and dont usually get stuck on mild offroading situations.
And of course better tires.
They're all turbos now so no need to designate it. I'm not likely to go there, so I have a new 2023 Compass Limited. Great when they have a 15% off sale, otherwise not sure what I would have bought. Possibly the Mazda CX-5, the CX-50 rides like a proverbial brick.
Jeeps look cooler then Mazdas
Great review. Thanks for doing it. How does this compare to a Subaru cross trek or forester. Debating between this and those since you can get these for 32000 now
i just got the jeep after riding in those other 2 and im happy with the purchase. new turbo engine is so nice
Are you going to purchase it? If you’re going to own for the long run, Subaru easily is a more reliable vehicle than the Jeep. If you’re going to lease it and don’t care, go wild. The Subaru is also a much safer vehicle. If you’re worried about prices, Jeep has a lot of inventory so you’ll most likely get a better price compared to a MSRP Subaru. Hope that helps.
@@atmartensas an owner of a 2023 Outback XT I would not say this is accurate. I got my Outback well under invoice. As for long term reliability, I leased my Subaru specifically due to all of the issues that crop up later on. I would say lease both the Subaru and Jeep in this scenario. Although both Jeep and Subaru owners will tell us that we are both wrong and reliability is phenomenal on both. History states otherwise.
@@atmartens I agree. I am looking to purchase. I would prefer Subaru but wilderness is about 40. Can get trailhawk compass for 32 . Tough call. Appreciate your input
I'm not a big fan of Subaru, but I would take either the Crosstrek or the Forester over a Compass every day. The Jeep is more expensive for mediocre benefit. They're all pretty generic Crossovers.
Hard pass
Hi I’m from india, I love to watch your videos and get so many information about the card. can you please suggest what would be the performance of Volkswagen Tiguan on the same terrain where you drove this trail hawk? Which will be better trailhowk or Tiguan ? In india we got Jeep Compass trail hawk with 2 Ltr diesel that churns out 167ps and 350nm of torque. What do you think is Indian specs trail hawk can do better or give similar performance? Please advise as we are planning to buy one. Thank you. All the very for your future videos.
All the very best for your future videos.
Why doesn’t the 4wd lock mode actually LOCK the damn wheels?
I have the compass trailhawk. There’s no chance it can hang with a forester wilderness. No chance
I owned a 2022 Compass Trailhawk.
So, the Trailhawk has HT tires??? Well, it'll look nice at the library parking lot.
Putting the trailhawk badge on this type of baby SUV basically destroyed all the significance of that name trailhawk. Such a shame
Its like Toyota TRDing everything.
Well, a little lift with proper beefier A/T-s should do the job for the most cases of application of this good looking small vehicle. I like the overhangs and bumpers, and thank God no horrendous plastic cladding everywhere, which per opinion of one Japanese brand should underline extreme off-road capabilities 😁
Captain...I believe we need more power! I'm giving it all she got! More power, less problems up the hill say a 5.0 L V8 that gets 500 hp and 510 lb feet of torque..yep that should do it for this jeep. 😜
For the price of this campus I would just get the cherokee trailhawk which is a true off-road vehicle.
@@RetirementGoals1 Weird because it's so much better than most the SUV's tested here.
Two questions:
1) Tge 2.0L Turbo made 270 Jp in the Cherokee. The Compass only gets 200hp?
2). Since they are canceling the Cherokee, why wouldn’t they carry over the great Destination A/T tires from the Cherokee Trailhawk?
These tires are great for road use and light trails.
To go off-road, it misses out on a diesel-powered engine. In Brazil, this car is offered with a 2.0 Turbo diesel with 170hp, but with 350 N.m (258 lb/ft) of torque and a ZF 9-speed transmission. The extra torque helps a lot in situations where the AWD system is managing the torque split. However, for the next year, the diesel will be gone to welcome the 2.0T Hurricane with 270hp from the Wrangler
My washed up 1999 250k mile isuzu rodeo 4x4 with True locking diff on ko2 all terrain tires will walk those trails in wet conditions 😂 my brother has a 87 nissan pathfinder 4x4 we beat the crap out of them offroad and they keep going..they don't build vehicles like they use 2..wish I could find a 80s model hilux truck for a reasonable price motors were bullet proof and they are rugged offroaders
Very often reviewers say that tires are the issue on these sort of cars. I disagree. The issue is suspension travel. Even on basic obstacles, the suspension travel is so little that the tires are simply not contacting the ground with enough pressure to do anything. It doesn't matter what the tread pattern is like. I can guarantee that those same exact tires equipped on a solid axle vehicle would roll right over those spots where the crossover spins out.
Test the 2023 Outlander PHEV
Over $40k??? Should not be called a TrailHawk without the all terrain tires and a ELSD
Sooooo $47k with the right tires that should come on it anyway 😂
🤪 this is hysterical.. gotta keep
Three thousand RPMs .. select D3 .. and…Goooo…!!!!💨
Hi, what about Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk 2023?
Thank you
These american companies are a disgrace the way the keep Increasing prices.
LOL, umm every automaker out there has drastically increased their prices....and lowered their quality standards with garbage turbo charged engines in place of V8's...cough....cough...TOYOTA
@wildbill23c oh I agree but I'm american so I hold our country to a higher standard. Japan can do what they want but if America did right by its base then our automakers would be killing it.
limited slip differential would have helped here quite a lot. The brake way of generating limited slip doesn't seem that efficient
I appreciate the little spotlights where you compare it to other cars and explain each one's technology...
Q: What will be the performance of the Forester and the Crosstrek on the same trail?
They would cut power a lot more because their cvt’s are known for overheating easily
@@brandonruhl1639 wow! Interesting, and yeah I've seen a lot of off-roading videos using crossovers and SUVs with CVTs, and most of them show the 'overheating' message at one point, but I've never seen a Subaru doing that, so that's why? it cuts the power to avoid it? But at the same time, they are still more capable than other cars using CVTs...
He's done the course with a Forester Wilderness with ease. Subaru doesn't have the overheating issue.
@@TheDryToalla you must not have watched any videos at all so stop the 🧢
Almost 50K, for a measly 200 hp? Ouch! Sure fully loaded as it starts with 36k.. So again almost 40k for 200hp?
Need advice. This for 32500 lower end trailhawk or Subaru cross trek. Would love opinions and advice. Also how does this compare to ford bronco sport and not the badlands edition
The 2024 Crosstrek Sport is excellent. Buy that. Non-Badlands Bronco Sports are good, but I think the Forester is a better deal at that point.
@@drivingsports thanks for your advice. How does bronco sport non badlands compare to the Subaru. Also thanks for your vids. No one does anything like them.
@@drivingsports Add to that the Subaru is available without a turbo....avoid those stupid turbo engines, people think they're great because they sound cute, but they aren't made for longevity in mind, and a regular naturally aspirated engine especially those 4 cylinder boxer engines are much easier and cheaper to service and repair when needed.
Ryan do you ever test Maserati or Alfa Romeo?
How did you get those headlights? I thought those were only available on the Limited version?
Well I am Definitely Sold on NOT getting a Jeep Compass Trailhawk! Forester or Forerunner for me in 2024😊🤙
Just got my 4runner- love that it's tried and true.. wanted to get one before they go 4 cylinder with a turbo
@@klb3400 What year and model did you get and what color that's very cool
I really hate the beeps and the “serv 4wd” warning this vehicle (and much of the competition on the compact suv market) does when the 4wd can’t do the job, switching the four wheel drive off and going back to 4x2 until it “cools down” (I doesn’t know exactly what it does) and them turns the 4wd on again after… those beeps and warnings are really frustrating
I hate CVT's but would still buy a Forester Wilderness over this...
It should be illegal to call an SUV with an AWD system a 4x4. Even the buttons say 4 low, but it doesn't have a 2 speed transfer case. While it performs well for what it is, they need to stop calling their buttons 4lo and 4wd lock. I mean WTF.
There's no formal classification of namings 4x4, 4WD or AWD so manufacturers are calling their systems as they want.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers If you're saying something is 4wd then people know it to be a 2 speed transfer case with 4hi and 4lo. If a vehicle doesn't have that it's AWD.
@@pacattack81 These are only spoken, informal definitions. There are no official norms, there is no law defining the systems and namings. Furthermore - If you look at J1952 by SAE, there's even no names like 4x4 or 4WD, all starts with AWD. That's why sticking to namings is pointless, what's import is the mechanical structure of the system.
Aint no Subaru, that's for sure.
This vs the outback wilderness would be a great comparison
Wrong friend, even with traction control off it comes back on when wheel speed hits factory ( Nanny) setting. These Nanny’s or as you say “come on it’s figuring it out” doesn’t work when momentum (power) is cut your stuck again.Unless you know how to disable it temporarily for real.😊
I could see Forester fans a lot here😊
46k for this thing? 25k max.
It's not 2002 anymore
@@Memetologist you gonna buy it for 46?
For something that would have cost about $15-19k a few years ago. With a piss poor AWD system too...not impressed at all with the stuff Jeep...err...Chrysler....err...Stellantis is doing.
@@wildbill23c $15-19K what you think this is the 80's? wow people come on you can't be that......
@@Qugie It isnt worth much more than that
Time to buy these guys now they are $45k canadian because of the discounts!
$46thousaaaaaaWWHAAAAAT? Outrageous! For 16K less, we'll stick with our Seltos SX.
Lol defender t-shirt for a jeep review😂
Do any of the modes not cut power?/
Based on recommendation- in have tried - 6 months majority of time I have been made to run around workshop with unrelible or tangled care. Substandard components malfed towords customer
@5:11 you can see my point 😂
46k will put you in a 4 runner.
TrailDove rather than a TrailHawk. If lots of unmaintained road or trail driving is in your future, a base Wrangler (add locking rear diff), is a much better option. If a soft roader (any) with an "OffRoad" package is what you want, never leave the pavement without a good self recovery kit. Many of these softroaders are getting people too deep in the woods where the brake actuated traction control devices are overwhelmed and are leaving them stranded.
i have seen other review for this car and for cherokee and when the car is in full articulation with one wheel from each side on the air if you try to open and close the door of the passenger it stuck and does not close normal. Among many crossovers the only cars with this problem, bad body structure
Take the new Crosstrek wilderness over this all day.. Feel like it would handle this course better, also has better ground clearance and a way friendlier pricetag fully loaded
I can’t even finish watching this. I feel like my Cherokee Trailhawk with a V6, AT tires, and a rear locker would’ve crawled up that first run no problem. Stellantis killed the Cherokee for this. And it’s $46k?? Give me the Subaru Outback Wilderness. No brainer.
Can you do the Ascent next?
These things have a lot of issues. Look at all the complaints.