Best irons of 2018? Mizuno 919 Hot Metal
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txg.ca - Testing the new Mizuno 919 Hot Metal irons on GC Quad and discussing the technology features and unique design that make this one of the year's best products in our opinion. If you're looking for more distance and forgiveness and a great feeling iron, don't miss this video for more in depth information on these irons.
Filmed at: Tour Experience Golf
Custom Golf Club Fitting Studio - Toronto, Canada
Featuring: Ian Fraser & Matt Blois
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Enjoying your videos guys - nice addition to the mix.
Ordered mine a couple days ago and was really relieved to see your review. No buyer's remorse!
You guys could be salesman for Mizuno without a doubt! The most in treating and a valuable part about this though is there is no smoke and mirrors, you two are giving your honest, unbiased, and raw opinion and I’m STILL sold on these irons! Can’t wait to test them as soon as possible, hopefully they are the winning ticket I have been searching for all season
Had a fit a week ago and ordered. Always played blades. Handicap in the high singles. 50 this year so need a little help. I reckon I’ve made the right choice. Can’t wait to play then.
Thanks for your comments. Praise is well deserved. Bought ‘em
Went to my local Pro and hit over a dozen makes and models of the latest irons. Mizuno JPX 919 Hot Metal Irons were Easily the Very Best for me. I'm 65 now and my swing speed has dropped a bit for the Blades I've had for many years. This was a Perfect Upgrade for me. Beautiful Looking, Great Sound, Very Forgiving and Long Distance. I was extremely Impressed! I Got "Fit" for them and am glad I did. I ordered a full set. The great thing was I got Project-X Graphite Shafts (Stiff) Plus Golf Pride Grips - at No Extra Charge from Mizuno! I usually hit Vice Pro Plus or Kirkland Signature Balls for Excellent Results at Half the Price of Pro V1's. Go Get Fit for these and Never Look Back... ENJOY! -Mike Ericsson Monroe, WA.
Got the JPX 919 Hot Metals and they were the best feeling irons I’ve hit. Better than the hot metal pros also. The original 919 Hot Metal is the best you can get as a GI iron
I'm playing JPX-919 Forged, I'm in LOVE !!!
I've been gaming these irons now for the last few weeks and could not be happier with my purchase. fantastic irons for a player of my ability that needs a little extra help due to some less than perfect ball strikes.
Got mine a few days ago. Went and got fitted for the first time after watching your channel, and really enjoyed the whole experience! Got the 919 hot metals with Project X 6.5 shafts, 2 degrees upright and plus 2 wraps on the grips. So far after just hitting at the range I’m already in love with the feel. Gonna test on course in about and hour! Great channel keep up the great work.
How Tallinn you are to have 2deg.upright?
tall
I’m a 4 handicap player that is not good with irons. I tend to use the entire face. Just picked up a set of these yesterday. Really like the height that I’m seeing over what I used to play, with the same lofts. Looking forward to playing these. ⛳️🏌🏽♂️
Glad to hear you comment on the Mizuno shaft optimizer. Used it during a demo day and was curious as too how a true fitter viewed it
As someone without much grip or wrist strength I like the fact that they make a "B" weight head that
you can request on an order that is lighter than standard.
Thanks for the intelligent conversation from many perspectives, guys.
I have the JPX900 forged 5 thru PW. Mizuno doesn’t make wedges in this set. Instead I use Hot Metal SW and LW with the same shaft as the rest of the set. Sort of a blended set but in reverse. I’m very happy with the set, best golf clubs I’ve ever owned.
What's your handicap ? I'm around a 14.(have been as low as an 11)I'm looking at either the HM,s HMP's or the forged. Thanks.
Just been fitted for these irons. Off 12 at the mo. the fitting went very well.. looking to improve my game and excited to bring these irons to the party.
I placed an order for these yesterday after comparing them to several other irons including the TM P790, Ping I500 and the AP 3. For the performance, feel, look and price I agree they are hard to beat in a game improvement iron. I'm a former scratch player but now at age 62 play to a 10 as age and lack of playing has taken it's toll a bit. I gained at least 10 yrs per club and the forgiveness is incredible. Hopefully my order beats the rush after your glowing review! Keep up the great work guys!
Leo, Let me know how those irons work for you :) best of luck! Bubba!
Bubba will do!
Thank you sir!!!
Leo Moretz I wish I could gain 10 years by buying some new irons 👍
@@howardbarker276 I hear you! 20 years would be even better 👍
Hi Ian & Matt
Talking to a golf pro the other day about the new srixon irons and he is a big seller of Mizuno and he said how the srixon as hurt mizuno sales but looking at the new mizuno line up it could pull them sales back.
Another interesting video.
I’m getting a fitting tomorrow and I’m really excited
I play the AP1 718 and will definitely give these a try. I’ve been getting lessons and my swing has changed in a big way. Even with my improved swing I’m a golfer that would still benefit from a game improvement iron.
Excellent review guys. I have the 900 Hot Metals and they are the best feeling GI irons out there and I have tested all of them (sadly). Keep up the good work
Very good totally unbiased review very refreshing well done lads keep it going.
Spent weeks now w/different fitters.(about 5-6 times on the optimizer)last one was w/a fitter that had GC quad. Decided on hot metals, w/project x 115 5.5 regs. 50,55,60 S18 chrome wedges ! They'll be here next week. Can't wait ! Long time coming. Hi Ian and Matt.
Awesome Charles!!
@@clubchampionmedia I should be breaking par now, right ?😂🏌️
Just tested these vs the 919 forged and I was able to hit these a lot more consistently. The forged looked better and I wished that I could make that step up but realistically the hot metals were the right club for me.
Love them.
Not a magic wand but very nice to play with.
Good morning TX G from Dallas Texas. Another awesome video for my morning commute thank you. Will definitely be giving the new Mizuno jpx line a try
As a Mizuno fan and owner of JPX irons I have been watching their products closely over the years. I play the 825pro series and I love them. I wanted to add a 4i and replace my 5i. I may just get into these clubs built to my spec.
Good info! Thanks!
These are really nice irons, i think they are one of the best looking game improvement irons for sure... i was between these, ap1, g400, rogue, P790’s and the g700 and i wound up with the g700 just because i seemed to hit them better. Mizuno was a close second
Love the video, now waiting for 919 Tour vs Mp 18;)
quite!
A+ as always gentleman! Can’t wait to see your review on the 929 tour. Please include standard and modern loft! Thanks.
Hopefully this iron pulls a few folks out of their Taylormade/Callaway stupper. I'm still playing mp30s from 15 years ago. the 919s look like a big performance jump, just watched Faldo testing them, he was a bit gobsmacked by the performance. Loving the vids, keep up the the good work.
Ian says this could be the best GI irons out? Wait, I thought this was a Srixon biased channel? I think there are a few people on here that owe you guys an apology? My opinion on clubs is to play the most forgiving irons you can stand to look at. And with that, I'm off to test the hot metals!
OMG these new Irons from Mizuno look so..... er....... HOT! From your review they sound as though they are designed for and would make an excellent Xmas present for the Bandit!
So here goes, Dear Santa, this year I have been a really really good Bandit......Honestly I have.......
😆
Just put an order in for this set. My god these things are amazing!!!
I'm curious to know for people commenting on testing this with a slower swing speed... why? What does swing speed and handicap have to do with each other? I would now be considered a higher handicap since I don't get out to play as much as I used to and I swing my irons at 94 mph. Just because I can swing an iron fairly quickly doesn't mean I can middle it every time. I think this iron to Ian and Matt's point is for people who have a preferred trajectory and people playing these irons could be a lower handicap. Paige Spirnac, a really good golfer just put these in the bag. I do understand that a lot of golfers with slower swing speeds will be interested in these irons for some more ball speed, but that's not the only market for these types of irons. Great review Ian and Matty. You 2 are the best.
Thanks Anthony!
Video reviews of the new Callaway Apex CF19's are starting to trickle out so I'd love to see you compare the Apex and Apex Pro to your top GI irons from 2018!
Great review!!! Great info!!! Much appreciated!
Hi guys I know you've seen the new JPX 919 hot metal pro's. Thoughts compared to 919 hot metals. I bought a pair last fall and am curious
I agree Andy. I'm on the fence between the HMP or HM.
Maaaaaan I would love these irons. Might wait till next year if they are more affordable. I’m currently using Titleist dci 981s and I wish they were more forgiving
I bought the 919 hot metal with a 6.0 Liz shaft. Love everything about the irons. However, I need to lower my trajectory with them. I’ve lost yards instead of gained. I am a strong player and a 9 handiecapper with a high ball flight. Would going with the 6.5 Lz make enough difference or should I consider a new shaft all together. I played kbs c-taper 130 X prior to these but really enjoy the shaft in these clubs specifically the feeling and awareness.
These irons really seem like they are the real deal. A great follow up video would be to gap a blended set of hot metal and forged. Showing what adjustments would be needed to go from a forged 7 iron to a hot metal 6 iron would be great.
So my question is. Who wouldn't benefit from the higher, further and more forgiving iron. That said, for a lot of people (myself included) I love the look of blades. In fact, I struggle with turf interaction on most wider sole irons. So I play the mp-18s, but I may be getting some hot metals in the 3-4-5. Maybe make a nice driving iron in these with the right shaft? I hit the jpx 900 hot metals in the past and was blown away with the results.
How would these compare to the MP-18 MMC FliHi? What would the 4 iron comparison look like?
Super awesome review! Thanks
Great info as usual! I'm looking for more of a players look in an iron with generous forgiveness. The feel runs second to distance with forgiveness. What should I consider?
Robert
Got fitted into JPX 919 HM with Project X 6.0 and 2 degrees flat.
Just ordered these but 2* weaker loft to closely match my current irons. This is 6-gw. Do you foresee any problems with this adjustment?
The concept of a 'golf season' seems so funny to me as a northern Australian. 'Winter time' here means it's 25* Celsius out on the course. Makes me feel very lucky to be able to play all 12 months of the year. Surely you get frustrated as a golf nut in Canada when the course is buried in snow?
Man you have no idea...lol. As a weekend golfer you just get rolling in July and August and all of a sudden it's September and if you're lucky you get another month of decent weather and then you're down into the teens and colder for October with the occasional warmer period. Wind starts to blow, leaves all over the course making it hard to find balls in the rough...etc. Oh the humanity!!
That is so depressing... I would legitimately put my life savings toward a man cave with GC Quad and simulator screen to survive the winter. No way could I go 6 months without hitting a ball.
Well we do have indoor driving ranges here. The local one is about 75 yards long but I've been in a couple in Calgary that are 100 yards long. I used them for the first time last year and got out about once a week to keep in golfing shape. But I've been thinking about putting up a net in my spare bedroom or down in the basement...lol.
I know the feeling of a short season being in Wyoming lol windy all the time and winter is typically October to May.
Here in Iceland we have about 4 months max to play golf outside... and the weather is bad for 3 of them
These irons have very little bounce compared to my older pings. I’m wondering how that affects contact. I’m not much of a digger more of a scraper. Ive only hit them off of mats they feel nice but it’s hard to tell without actually hitting from a fairway, any thoughts?
Going to buy the Hot Metals this week. Not the biggest and strongest guy in the world. Should I buy them steel or graphite shafts?
I LOVE THE MIZUNO JPX919 HOT METAL PRO!!!! WITH MY PROJECT X LZ 6.5 IRONS...SOFT AND HOT!!
FEEL LIKE BUTTER WHEN I HIT THEM🏌️♂️⛳
I am positive that you mentioned bounce in a previous video about the new mizuno ranges can you do a video on bounce in irons & the fitting of them.
When a company lists bounce, are they referring to the leading bounce or trail bounce? Is there an industry standard for bounce listings? I noticed 919 Hot Metals are listed as what seems to be very low bounce compared to other GI irons, but the iron soles are moderately thick. Would they only fall into the game improving category for someone with a shallow swing looking for strike forgiveness? I am between these and the i500, loved the feeling and look of the Hot Metals, but am a bit concerned about the low bounce/turf interaction (I used to play Ping G30, but hated the extreme offset). I love the channel, and any extra info would be appreciated!
Is there a viable way to combo hot metal pro 4-7with the tour in 8-pw? How would you adjust lofts?
7 iron swing speed 85mph
looking forward to the new Mizuno DNA machine. I am holding off a fitting until these come in. I am close to one of the Mizuno Performance Centres in the UK so I am sure they will have one, may as well get fitted on all the latest tech!
Kevin - it won't impact the spec you end up with. New system speeds things up for the fitter, but you'll walk away with the same spec the current system throws up.
I’m getting fitted today at a country club with an Ernest Launch Monitor. That good enough? Or should I back out? Unfortunately the nearest true spec is too far away for me.
Chromoly is a stainless steel alloy used in bicycle frames a lot. Very strong, very light.
Great video.. Can you do a test for the Cobra Forged Tec Black? I'm curious how they stand up to these hot metals and the Ping I500.
I know I've said it before but I do love my JPX 900 Forged so I am sure these are just as good. I just may try the 4, 5, and 6 irons to blend them in my current set.
That's exactly what I did and couldn't be happier
How do these compare to the 900 hot metals? Wondering if they are worth an upgrade or not.
Another great review
900 vs 919 would be great..as I've just got the 900 lol
Hey guys what club do you like more as a game improvement club, z585 or jpx 919 hot metal? Thanks
Would be a hard choice, both are extremely good.
I'm playing Wilson Staff C300 Forged irons. KBS Tour 90--stiff. Slow tempo transition. I just keep getting too many knuckle balls. Carried a 9-iron last night north of 150 yards, landed on the green (good flight) and it wouldn't hold the green. Couple of holes before had 180 yards to the flag, (front of the green) hit a 7-iron and it rolled out to 200 yards. Landed 185 yards. I play ProV 1x. I'm looking for spin/stopping power. And I am more than happy to sacrifice some yards. Thoughts? I was custom fit for these irons in the spring. Standard length. 2 degrees upright. Now my miss is left. But more long misses than anything.
Can the 919HM be a replacement for Rogue X irons or just the Standard Rogue?
Another great job boys, welldone. I was wondering if the "offset" in any club brand be increased or decreased?
Do you guys still have the jpx 900 line in your shop or have you swapped out for the 919 line ? Thx!
I’m struggling to see the downside of playing these irons. Any thoughts?
Would you guys recommend these irons to someone who is a mid 20s handicap trying to improve
Absolutely, they’re a game improvement iron and should fit well for your playing level.
Thanks for the presentation! Cam and I decided to combo these hot metal with the 919 forged for 4 and 5 irons. Considering these are more ‘’ jumpy’’ than the forged, could you comment about how you adjust loft to keep the appropriate gapping distance ? I think a lot of low single handicap players are like me in being somehow accurate with irons but always looking for additional yardage on long irons. This would be fun having a video about how to ‘’combo’’ sets of irons... thks guys for your amazing job.
What's you're thought on the forged ones guys. I'm looking to get a fitting at the end of the year on these or the Srixon. Any thoughts on a comparison between the new Srixon and 919 forged. Thanks
In terms of adding or subtracting bounce, if a person blended these with 919 forged short irons, is it better to bend the Hot Metal long irons weaker or the forged short irons stronger in order to make consistent gapping?
2º bounce in either direction is not likely to make much of a difference in an iron set - would be more concerned with matching the iron heads and lofts to the desired ball flight i.e. high ball hitter would bend 919 forged strong to match 919 hot metals.
Are any of the 919s for mid to high handicaps?
Hi guys , wonderful in-depth review.. is it possible to compare this iron to Honma .? Particularly the tw 737 v irons.. I understand one is forged and one cast , but I’m talking about feel / sound and overall performance.. 😉🏌️⛳️🍻
Hey guys - been loving your channel, really great info, intelligently presented. Great work. I just got fitted (locally - too far to come see you guys unfortunately!) for this exact iron. Played one round with them and your description is spot on - I’m a 13 with some variances in my ball striking and these irons perform fantastically. I’m really pleased with them and definitely think they are worth a strong look for others.
Ego gets in the way so much. I was fitted into the 919 forged but since playing AP2's and P760 it's a struggle to go back to a bigger head and more offset
Like the way you do these reviews, really informative. Won't be popping around, bit of a long trip from The Netherlands. Will definitely keep watching.
Matt, Ian, as these clubs are meant to be for higher HC-er I think you should not test them at Matts pro-like swing speed. The targeted customer group may have swing speeds 7i 75-85 mph. For this kind of hitting it would be interesting to know apex, spin and decent angle, and of course distance.
Maybe you could add these infos to your tests for GI irons. Thx
I went out and the 919 Hot Metal last week. It was a 7 iron (30 degrees), had a C-taper X plus 1/2”. Srixon Z-star ball. Indoor with Trackman. Here are my numbers just looking for some feed back if they look consistent with the set up of the club. These are averages for about 12 swings. Felt really good off the face with a real high flight averaged about 130ft of Apex.
SS-96mph / BS-136 / carry -191 /
Spin - 6904 / Launch 17 degrees.
Thanks for the feedback. Love your videos.
Hey guys how do you feel about the 919 forged. Trying to build a short list for my fitting on Wednesday, current gamer is the Xforged 18 and before that was the apex pro 16
Thanks again Zack.
Liked them a lot, here's our review from last week: th-cam.com/video/yPskw4YJLks/w-d-xo.html
Im a 6 but dont play much so need help, 919 vs 410?
The no charge shaft and grip customization of the 919s make them hard to beat. Plus Mizuno's shaft optimizer 3D is the real deal for shaft and lie angle fitting.
Loving the Mizuno chat boys.. keep it up!!!
Did you boys test the JPX 900 driver when it came out.. !???
Cheers
Scotty
Great review. Could you try the Hot Metal Pro also. thx
Eric Jackson I think the Pros will be cult classics.
Are you guys fitting many people into mixed sets of JPX919? Such as Hot Metal in the 4 and 5i, Forged in the 6 7, and tour in the 8 9 pw? I really prefer a thinner top line and soft feel, but I think I'd struggle to get good enough strikes on the Tour and maybe the forged long irons.
Still a pretty new line to the shop, but combo sets would certainly be an option we present in many cases
I was thinking that same way !! I have not tried these irons yet but i will soon -- I was going to buy the 790's - but i will hold off a bit :)
TXG Tour Experience Golf Long Irons look solid but how do the short irons perform ?
i have just ordered 4 to 7 in hot metal and 8 to pw in forged. nippon modus 120 shafts. hopefully they will work for me.
Hi
Interesting review. I'm currently looking to update my irons and am looking at Callaway Rogues, Ping G700s and Titleist AP3. But neither my local pro shop nor American Golf stock mizuno.
Also I think the video would benefit from a little more of Matt's testing shots. Could you perhaps add in at the editing stage better close ups of the head as we can't make out much from the fixed camera views. We need something like you in the UK.
Will mizuno make the hot metal pro in left hand?
Great test guys. How is someone supposed to choose!!
Last year I tried both the JPX900 Hot Metal and the MP18-MMC and found them completely different, I hated the look and feel of the Hot Metal but loved the MMC (but struggled to control a draw with it). I am a low/mid HC golfer (on a good day, single figures) but I would not be happy with the very high flight in these irons, it would be difficult to control on a windy day on a links course. However, like many golfers I struggle with longer irons. Could you blend a 4i/5i in Hot Metal with, for example 919 forged?
Yup you sure could, with some loft customization needed for gapping
What shaft would you suggest for 79 year old. About 90mph driver club head swing, 75 average iron swing (7 iron). Could I still use iron shaft?
I meant steel shafts. Bill at carbilj@gmail.com
Lightweight steel options like Dynamic Gold XP 95 might work well for you
TXG Tour Experience Golf Thank you.
Getting after it early gentlemen!
Would these make for good combo sets? The forged 4i is at 22 while the hot metal is at 20.
With some loft adjustment yes, combo set could work well
I have the 900 hot metals. I don’t need to upgrade yet, do I? 🤞
Number 1 on the hotlist has to be TXG. I enjoy hearing how manufacturers are setting their lines up to combo. How did they do with the left hand options?
They were close but not quite, MP18 blade and JPX 919 tours are RH only!
TXG Tour Experience Golf Sad.
Ian, try pronouncing the material as "chome-ollie" or "kro-molly" depending on your emphasis. It's a material widely used in car suspension parts, for example.
Great info!! Better feel than the P790? Which one is longer? Thanks for the great video!!
Better feel yes, which one is longer would depend on the players' swing. P790 are lower spin so they would be longer for a mid-high spin player, not necessarily the optimal ball flight for everyone though
Great review! I really liked these the two times I've hit them, just waiting to get to hit them along side the 919 Forged (should be this week)! Gapping was my main concern with these, these flew 20 yards farther than my current 7i.
Matt & Ian, Aside from one's handicap number, what swing and/or performance characteristics would qualify a golfer as in need of "Game-Improvement" irons? Same question for "Mid-Handicap" irons?
Mostly comes down to ball striking ability, some players hit their irons quite centered and straight but have a higher handicap due to poor driving, short game or putting. Generally game improvement irons are designed to hit the ball higher, farther and less right while giving better mishit results than a smaller iron.
I just hit the new Hot Metal Pros today versus the Srixon 585 and 785 - and the 7 iron was spinning 400 rpms more than both these clubs. While I think I personally liked the feel slightly better of the 585s versus the new Hot Metal Pros (very slightly), the spin was just too low in my opinion and created a few fliers. For me a Callaway Apex Pro CF16 player last year (who had my clubs stolen at the end of the year on the range), the new Pros is going to be my choice because of Mizunos no charge upgrade of shaft and grip choices, the sound / feel of the club, the acceptable spin range and finally the ability to bend the loft and lie as Ian stated to dial in the clubs.
How would you compare them to the standard 0311 gen 1 irons? In terms of performance and feel, discounting cost. Ian, if I remember correctly I think you’ve hit the 0311, I don’t think Matt has? For me I like a mid-high flight with some stopping power. I’m currently fitted into the KBS tour 120
Actually a fairly comparable iron Mike, ball flight likely would be pretty similar so a lot would come down to personal preference in look and feel
Hi guys, love your show. Quick question, how do the Mizuno 919 Hot Metal irons compare to the Srixon Z585 irons?
919 is a bigger iron head, more forgiving
Any chance we could see a review on the Lynx Prowler VT irons?