The crap build quality for AMD laptops HAS TO STOP! AMD has the better product now! It is really unfair that OEMs still make them crappy-built so they are less desirable than Intels' (deliberately?). Remember when Steve from HUB said that Intel paid OEMs to make AMD laptops in "undesirable colors" so they would not be picked over Intel's? This is exactly what this feels like to me! Anyone else feels the same or am I being paranoid here?
I think it just takes time. This is all new and you are expecting the same quality for AMD laptops vs Intel that they’ve been putting out for years and have way more experience working with especially Dell who has a very close relationship with Intel, I’m actually surprised they’ve gotten them out so fast. Wait for next round it will be better.
I feel exactly the same way. Dell and Asus are doing are great disservice towards AMD hardware. I'll be going with Eluktronics Ryzen laptop for my next purchase.
@@CianMcsweeney right? and the coolers would actually be able to handle the AMD CPUS better then the intel ones LOL so yeah it honestly feels like a ploy from Intel to once again push down AMD laptops for their more expensive chips which are less powerful then similar priced amd ones and amd would honestly be even cheaper for better performance.
It's just the fact that nobody knew how new amd laptop cpu's would perform, the laptops are designed way earlier than the relese, that's why the OEMs put them in few models and not in theyr top of the line, next year we'll see an amd dominance imo
Intel cares alot about their mobile market even more than desktop (why they are cutting back enthusiast features on desktop). In order 1. Enterprise 2. Mobile 3. Desktop. So Intel invest alot in its partners for laptops. So yeah I guess you can pay they are "paying off" laptop vendors for a better product.
That charger is hilarious. I have a 240W adapter from 2012 that came with Dell Alienware and Precision laptops, and it looks EXACTLY the same. I'm pretty sure it's the same charger.
I'm guessing its because AMD give little to no direction to OEM's how to design the thermals so the OEM's have to do it from scratch. AMD is busy supporting the PS5 and Xbox Series X.
@@xuimod I meant the overall laptop design, quality and aesthetics. As if Dell had reused an old low-end chassis design from 2010 and slapped it with updated hardware.
yeah its ugly, but it grows on you. but let me just say it runs amazingly, the 8gb of ram is pretty aight. the holographic back is so bad looking in light but at night is actually gorgeous. the keyboard has p decent lighting and customizability considering its just a normal laptop keyboard. sometimes you will see some lag in game but what computer doesnt every once in a while? its great. alsooo heads up, when the battery gets low you may experience awful lag in games without explanation so always make sure that better performance is enabled. Basically for a cheap laptop thats intended for gaming it goes above what i expected
I actually really like the design. One of the main reasons I purchased this over some other "gaming laptop." Am I the only one who despises the crazy "gaming" looks of other computers? I want something that is more of a sleeper, business-y look but can run games very well.
@@NishManoj Yeah, really not sure what they were expecting for a budget gaming laptop. Is it Apple build quality? Of course not. Is the build quality so bad that I am worried about it breaking? Absolutely not. Exactly what I would expect for the price. At this price range, I would expect to pay for good gaming performance, maybe followed by screen and battery, then aesthetics and build quality. This laptop has its priorities in order. I bought it used for $550 and upgraded the RAM and SSD. I don't bring it anywhere, just swap out my monitor's USB-C cord from my MacBook Pro to the G5 when I want to play games. Works well and great value. There are a number of things you can do to get better performance and fix thermals if you want; there is a subreddit dedicated to this laptop because of all those quirks. Just depends how tech-savvy you are and how much time you want to put into it.
@@airops423 ahh peace. That's all I really need. This is my first gaming laptop and all the others in the price range do have 5600Hs but with 3050/1650/5500Ms Figured I'd take a small CPU hit and get a better graphics card Can you drop the reddit link?
9:10 this means that they reused molds or changed in the design process. The funny thing is that you can just remove metal from the mold and get rid of that engravings (mold are inverses of final product) so this means they just don't care.
SO I got this guy (the updated version with the 120Hz screen. You can dim the keyboard with the fn+f10. I am happy with the gaming preformance. I don't mind the build quality. I actually like the look of it. The 5600m is not bad at all. AC Valhalla would not automatically run on the 5600m, but it can be overridden by using graphics settings. I added a 2nd nVME drive (1TB) so i can have more than 1 or 2 games installed. I plan on upgrading the RAM to 16 or 32 gig at some point. Oh and I got it for 767 dollars, so I am happy.
For those hardware specs and display in the AMD version for that price looks like an incredible deal to me! Knowing that I don't mind the cheap looking appearance at all. It's not like it looks terrible, it just looks like a casual generic standard boring laptop. And I think that's fine if it brings the price down.
Looking at the cooling performance of this notebook as well as the cooling hardware. I was hoping the last test is to re-paste the thermal compound with kyronaut and see if it's due to poor out of factory thermal paste... But... You didn't. That's a little disappointing
Nope you're wrong. I know someone who's repasted this same laptop and gets very good thermals. The latest bios very much inproves thermal performance aswell. I have the laptop and can confirm.
It looks like I found a new heater for this winter! I really appreciate you guys spending extra time with the machine instead of pumping out a review after a few days of use!
You do realize that the actual heat output is a function of how much power is consumed, right? If the CPU operates at 30 watts and 40 degrees C it outputs 30 watts of heat. If the CPU operates at 30 watts and 100 degrees C it outputs 30 watts of heat. Somewhat ironically a 'cooler' running CPU will usually output more external heat due to it being allowed to throttle up.
I never really had a problem with "Dell Grey" on looks. It's when you touch it that it you feel and hear problems. Thinkpads can look boring as hell but in the same way that a black SUV is boring until you see red plates on it and some agent steps out.
Don't EVER buy a Dell/Alienware. When a component breaks or the machine stops working, they won't even take your call about it. I learned this the hard way.
@@ultradmx no the thermals are great, i have the laptop. install the latest bios and you get great thermals. He showed in the video the second time round he was getting much better thermals.
Imagine if the A15 had a proper display and about 35 seconds worth of thought towards its bottom panel design...it could’ve been the most recommended laptop for 2020.
The funny part is that even if Dell bumps the price by USD100-150, it will still be a better option compared to Intel (performance-wise). I wonder why they didn't do much effort into the design. Does intel sabotage AMD through brands?
The Intel model with RTX 2060 comes with all 3 USB 3 ports. I'm testing them right now with external hard drives and I can get 100MB/s sequential reads/writes on Crystal DiskMark on the rear one and on the side ones as well.
my beef with these laptop makers is they make a capable gaming laptop that is great for photo and video dabbling, but its comes with high refresh rate screens at 1080p. not useful for the photo/video crowd. as soon as something gets labeled for "creators" the price goes up quickly, there's never a middle ground device.
pointless, HP is putting a low quality screen in the omen 15 for sale in india. and there's also just a couple of configurations for sale. it's up on flipkart you can find it when you include out of stock/restocking soon products in search. The pricing is ok tho. looks like HP has lowered the base price of the devices to adjust for the taxes. if they put the same screens as on the US versions and more configurations for sale, it would've been the perfect high-midrange gaming laptop in india. @80-100K rupees. the zephyrus g14 and 15 both are THE best laptops on the market right now, except that they omit the webcam and run hot(not by design but due to a last minute decision by asus to block two of the three air intake vents using a plastic sheet just for the AMD versions; i believe that it was intel's doing so that their nuclear reactors look competitive with AMD versions); the HP omen has all the positives of zephyrus, has a great chassi, has a camera and runs cool. PERFECT. now if only i had a relative in US so i could get the best config for less :( DAMN YOU HP INDIA!!
@@megalith7796 I ordered hp omen today as I play with and external monitor soo I don't care about the screen while gaming but other than that I think the screen will suffice me through college !
Dell lets us down again. That I/O is outrageous, the webcam should be better. I don't care about sound from built-in laptop speakers, use external speakers!
I hope you guys have the Ryzen version of the Omen 15 on your review list, it has an Nvidia GPU but it's a much better example of a Ryzen equipped laptop at this price point. It doesn't look like it's from 2014 and it isn't a furnace.
@@gzarari Funny how everyone keeps saying this about the Legion notebook. The highest end GPU they're offering in most regions is the GTX 1650 Ti for ~$1100 USD and that's a terrible value.
@@HardwareCanucks I read somewhere that a 2060 version is coming, but it was dumb of Lenovo to lead off with only the 1650 Ti. That said, the Omen launched with the 1660 Ti and that's perfect for my use cases!
I just bought my Dell G5 Se with R7 4800h. I would say, the design is actually not bad. It looks nice but not really great. And yeah, the thermal issue are seriously real. I was using it for about 15 min and the top side of the keyboard just below the screen is really hot. It feels like I have been using it for a an hour of gaming. And just to think, I was only surfing in the Microsoft edge. But fortunately, I came prepared with this. So I'm updating all drivers in windows update and also Dell Update App and also with dell support assist application.
For this price they should be able to make it all metal and have high speed USB. It seems like they had junior project engineer work on it, he then poorly managed the system design and they quickly ran out of BOM budget and ended up having to make a lot of sacrifices to reach the target price. Glitches with power management is typical AMD thing on laptops, they always struggle with drivers.
I get the feeling a product design engineer had stuff in his inbox like 'it still feels too good, can you make it a bit creakier? use cheaper plastic, make it really glossy and pick up oily sheen and scratches like butter?' so as not to compete with their other lines
The day that the build quality for AMD laptops stop being rubbish, will be a good day for the industry. Almost every single one that I see always has negative feedback on the design and/or colour choice.
Hi Dustin, Can you please tell me what your experience so far with this laptop after 7 months? I am more worried about the Temp and I am thinking to get one so please enlighten me
normaly i dont like videos except if they are outstanding to some sort, from a small youtuber or if they do something really convinient. the timeline on this video is really good and i hope more youtuber do that
Hp ryzen build quality has been pretty good for its entire product stack bought a pavilion one for media consumption and was suprised that it was of pretty solid construction some keyboard flex I wish wasn't there but overall better then most ryzen dells and asus
@@alexmeek610 Build quality and poor execution by OEM's to give AMD may have to just buy an independent laptop company like maingear! Produce there own laptop from ground up to show the performance of AMD cpu & gpu within a laptop. Which would send laptop market on there head's. This is the same problems Linux OS had for many years.
This laptop is overpriced for the specs, it needs atleast 16GB DDR4 RAM and 1 TB nvme ssd for $999. In order to save costs dell should instead reduce their 1st party bloatware on the laptop.
Beware the hinge! I have a G3 bought in December. The hinge failed (three screws to the lid stripped out) under normal usage (no drops). Dell Support said the damage was out of scope of the warranty. I bought a new lid from China to replace but am worried that this one won't last any longer (6 months) than the last. Might try and do something to reinforce the screws (sugru?)
I just bought one. Honestly, I would have paid $100 more for better build quality. But the 6 GB video card is so important for DaVinci Resolve. I only got it for the performance and the bright, (somewhat) color-accurate display. I was interested in the MSI Creator M15, but it was using Intel only. AMD would have been a great fit for a device like that. I really like the SD card slot for my photo and video needs.
Grabbed this open box at Best Buy for under $600 for my son. We needed a computer as our MacBook of ten years video card crapped out. More than happy with it for what we paid. Going to give it the full run for its money to make sure there are no issues under the return period and then he plans to sticker the heck out of it and really make it his. Maybe I'm old but this thing doesn't look that bad to me lol. I'd rather pay for specs on the inside then making the thing look flashy on the outside. That's how I am with my builds too though. The RGB craze could die tomorrow and I wouldn't lose a wink.
Watch out for crashes. If it starts crashing I would suggest returning it asap. Had to return a brand new one, as nothing would fix the crashes. Dell did a bad job on the build for this laptop, both in materials and software.
Bought this and returned the next day. Super loud at load in WOW at med and ultra settings. I had an issue with running in windowed mode. It would leave rainbow pixels after opening another window. I was not happy with this at all!
A cheap aluminum enclosure would barely cost more than a plastic one. Make an awesome notebook that everyone with a budget would be interested in, and they end up making it look like a budget notebook. Someone buying a budget notebook doesn’t want it to look like a budget notebook.
go for a zephyrus g14-15 for great everything but NO camera and you have to open the 2 blocked vents on the AMD model. idk why they did this, probably mischief from intel. go for HP omen 15 if you need everything great (it has like, no negatives at all). the end. all other laptops have SOME kind of deal breaker issue. EXCEPT THAT HP india has replaced the amazing screens in the omen with crappy screens like the tufbook...
AMD must tie up with 2-3 OEM who really care about customer and should involved in there manufacturing, Aesthetics so that end customer get all the benefits
Bought a Asus tuf fx505du 2019 edition with ryzen 7, gtx 1660 ti , 8gb ram, 512 ssd and a 120 hz panel for 870 dollars this Dell G5 seems nice but you can get much better deals if you dig around long enough.
I just completed my triple booting Dell G5 5590 (Intel i7/RTX 2060) laptop project. So, I shrunk the Windows 10 it came with , added Ubuntu on the internal M.2 SSD and replaced the SATA HD with a SSD for the OpenCore Hackintosh (Catalina 10.15.6). I can't use the RTX 2060 graphics on MacOS since it can't be used but this G5 15 SE is a good candidate to hackintosh because of the AMD mobile graphics. I don't think OpenCore supports Ryzen laptops yet though. I"ll wait till AMD has Thunderbolt 4 capability on a laptop, till I try it.
I see the laptops becoming a promising alternative to desktop PCs especially in the far future, but this move from OEMs with AMD Laptops has to stop. Excellent review from Eber though and pointing out this trending flaws on OEMs.
Dell’s been using those power supplies for years. Also, you think their 240W is big, then your eyes would open wide at their 330W power bricks. Thing’s heavy as hell too for a laptop power supply.
You’re awesome thanks bro, if u see this can u lemme know what’s the best gaming laptop for 800$? Idk what is goood and what can run what and how well it can run it but after watching this video I trust u
The fact that you were playing on the charger no problem hurts me. Because I just bought this and the throttling when I'm on the charger is insane it crashes my PC entirely.
Smart Shift Reminds me of what HP did for their Laptop(DV6-6C50CA) i5-2450m with AMD discrete GPU HD 7690m XT switchable graphics, they did a custom software which conflicts when you update your drivers... after a year or so HP abandoned it... had too many issues with the software not switching to discrete, workaround fix for it was to go to Bios and change the Switchable graphics from Dynamic to Fixed it worked for it's time while using Windows 7... this laptop is still with me working, even upgraded it to an SSD, free update to windows 10, replaced thermals paste just a month or so ago... it gets a little hot haven't replaced the fan yet guessing it has worn out... also once upgraded to Windows 10 had to switch back Bios from Fixed to Dynamic windows 10 doesn't like the fixed option and lags when shutting down...
Max supported memory is 64GB for the all AMD model. The Intel model Max support is 32GB. There are many reports of people who have the all AMD version of this laptop upgraded to 64 GB. Check Reddit if you don't believe me.
I highly suggest to look at the cooling solutions and coverage. Asus tuf 15 is cheap but the vrms are not cooled with a heatsink. It needed to make intake vents smaller to let air channel through the exposed vrms
Can you please request a engineering sample of the eluktronics rp-15, it's one of the top choices for amd 4k series since it doesn't skimp out on too much for its price point
@@TofaelTohin yeah but the little lip between the keyboard and screen really bugs me because if you grab the laptop there the screen flexs in. The cost to performance is slightly higher as well. The customization of the rp-15 is way better to allow for switching certain parts to lower cost or even to balance out an upgrade
I want to buy a new laptop. Should I buy this dell g5 SE amd ryzen 5 hexacore ? My main concern is about heating issue.I am very scared of it. What should I buy then? Or Is this ok?
I find the test is kinda skewed because there’s a lot to be said about what’s not in there. Comparing a sub $900 laptop with an RTX2060/70/80 and a RX5500M is only telling half the story if you don’t include at least a 1660ti laptop which is priced about the same as this laptop, you could even include a GTX1650 to make it stand out, because a lot of laptops are still to this day coming with this chip and priced around the same as the G5 SE. Then, about USB ports I wonder what kind of peripheral you would need that use the faster protocol, most of the time you would probably add a mouse or a headset, do you really need a USB3 port for these ? I don’t think so, so a single USB3 might make more sense and then you might use the type C port for some docking station which will add all the ports you’d need when you’re not on the go. As far as overheating goes I’m waiting for mine to see what could be done, but this is my biggest concern about this laptop, I wonder how much lifespan there’s in it if it’s constantly reaching high temperatures, but this is true for a lot of laptops, the A15 exhibit the same issue with poorly designed vents for instance. Anyway, in terms of bang for the buck it’s hard to find better than this laptop in this price range IMO, every brand is cutting corners here or there. So either you recommend a ROG Zephyrus 14 or you accept the compromise being made.
I got the same laptop, and to be honest its awful and yeah i regret having this. It would be really interesting to see a comparison of this laptop with the MSI Alpha 15 which is having the exact same specs ( Ryzen 7 and RX 5600M ).
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The crap build quality for AMD laptops HAS TO STOP! AMD has the better product now! It is really unfair that OEMs still make them crappy-built so they are less desirable than Intels' (deliberately?). Remember when Steve from HUB said that Intel paid OEMs to make AMD laptops in "undesirable colors" so they would not be picked over Intel's? This is exactly what this feels like to me! Anyone else feels the same or am I being paranoid here?
Yup that how capitalism works. Once you're at the top of the ladder you get to manipulate literally anything you want💸💸
I think it just takes time. This is all new and you are expecting the same quality for AMD laptops vs Intel that they’ve been putting out for years and have way more experience working with especially Dell who has a very close relationship with Intel, I’m actually surprised they’ve gotten them out so fast. Wait for next round it will be better.
@@therevanchist1123 I mean there's nothing stopping oems from just sticking amd CPUs in their existing Intel designs 🤷
I feel exactly the same way. Dell and Asus are doing are great disservice towards AMD hardware. I'll be going with Eluktronics Ryzen laptop for my next purchase.
@@CianMcsweeney right? and the coolers would actually be able to handle the AMD CPUS better then the intel ones LOL so yeah it honestly feels like a ploy from Intel to once again push down AMD laptops for their more expensive chips which are less powerful then similar priced amd ones and amd would honestly be even cheaper for better performance.
It's like Intel is paying OEMs to create a crappy laptop with AMD
Have to wonder by now.....
Intel's MDF at it best...
It's just the fact that nobody knew how new amd laptop cpu's would perform, the laptops are designed way earlier than the relese, that's why the OEMs put them in few models and not in theyr top of the line, next year we'll see an amd dominance imo
@@mohamedachab3604 Didn't know Laptop makers are that retarded XD
Intel cares alot about their mobile market even more than desktop (why they are cutting back enthusiast features on desktop). In order 1. Enterprise 2. Mobile 3. Desktop. So Intel invest alot in its partners for laptops. So yeah I guess you can pay they are "paying off" laptop vendors for a better product.
That charger is hilarious. I have a 240W adapter from 2012 that came with Dell Alienware and Precision laptops, and it looks EXACTLY the same. I'm pretty sure it's the same charger.
Put an AMD CPU in the XPS series!!
If they do this there will be no takers for Intel based XPS laptops.
4900HS thx...i'd easily buy one with the GTX/RTX 3060MQ(who knows... but I'm sure the TDP is gonna be tough to deal with)
Intel knows.... no one buy Intel based XPS if there are XPS powered by AMD Renoir. Period!!!!
The HP envy x360 is very close to xps, if i could get one with a 400 nit bright good gamut screen in the uk I'd have one by now
Then there won’t be thunderbolt 3
Wow it seems like Dell just put some hardware toghether just so they can come up with a laptop....
No, the laptop itself is actually really good. There are some temperature problems.
Its design is screaming "Don't f*cking buy me!"
I'm guessing its because AMD give little to no direction to OEM's how to design the thermals so the OEM's have to do it from scratch.
AMD is busy supporting the PS5 and Xbox Series X.
@@xuimod I meant the overall laptop design, quality and aesthetics. As if Dell had reused an old low-end chassis design from 2010 and slapped it with updated hardware.
My prior are best gaming performance at low prices tho so i don't mind.
Thanks to the looks. Keeps kids and cousins away 😌. That's good enough for me.
Why when they use AMD internals, they'll always make crappy design.
Intel side deals.
@Black Hole the outside is good, but it's too high profile on the inside. The lenovo legion 5 is imo the best ryzen gaming laptop
@Black Hole legion 5 has an RTX 2060 model released now
Idk
except for asus g14
Me: idc about the design as long as the gaming experience is beautiful then I’m happy lol
The BIG Crack yt exactly
Exactly! So much hate for the build quality in this video. It rocks at playing games which is what it’s meant to do.
Same bro I live in cold region my temps dont exceed 65 fan fans are running at full speed. No lag in any game till now.
yeah its ugly, but it grows on you. but let me just say it runs amazingly, the 8gb of ram is pretty aight. the holographic back is so bad looking in light but at night is actually gorgeous. the keyboard has p decent lighting and customizability considering its just a normal laptop keyboard. sometimes you will see some lag in game but what computer doesnt every once in a while? its great. alsooo heads up, when the battery gets low you may experience awful lag in games without explanation so always make sure that better performance is enabled. Basically for a cheap laptop thats intended for gaming it goes above what i expected
Lol I use it to play roblox even tho it’s a gaming laptop
I actually really like the design. One of the main reasons I purchased this over some other "gaming laptop." Am I the only one who despises the crazy "gaming" looks of other computers? I want something that is more of a sleeper, business-y look but can run games very well.
I'm planning to buy one for Christmas, how's the build quality? A lot of reviews called it flimsy and not great 😬
@@NishManoj Yeah, really not sure what they were expecting for a budget gaming laptop. Is it Apple build quality? Of course not. Is the build quality so bad that I am worried about it breaking? Absolutely not. Exactly what I would expect for the price.
At this price range, I would expect to pay for good gaming performance, maybe followed by screen and battery, then aesthetics and build quality. This laptop has its priorities in order.
I bought it used for $550 and upgraded the RAM and SSD. I don't bring it anywhere, just swap out my monitor's USB-C cord from my MacBook Pro to the G5 when I want to play games. Works well and great value.
There are a number of things you can do to get better performance and fix thermals if you want; there is a subreddit dedicated to this laptop because of all those quirks. Just depends how tech-savvy you are and how much time you want to put into it.
@@airops423 ahh peace. That's all I really need. This is my first gaming laptop and all the others in the price range do have 5600Hs but with 3050/1650/5500Ms
Figured I'd take a small CPU hit and get a better graphics card
Can you drop the reddit link?
@@harshpatil9825 meh. Already here in 2022. Might as well wait and pick up the new tuf or Nitro
@@harshpatil9825 thanks for the help my friend👍🏾
I've just ordered it, I don't care what you say man, I really like its specs, and got it with a pretty good discount
The looks of this laptop reminds me of my dad's Dell Laptop from 20 years ago that he passed on to me when I was in elementary.
9:10 this means that they reused molds or changed in the design process. The funny thing is that you can just remove metal from the mold and get rid of that engravings (mold are inverses of final product) so this means they just don't care.
Nice Catch!
SO I got this guy (the updated version with the 120Hz screen.
You can dim the keyboard with the fn+f10.
I am happy with the gaming preformance. I don't mind the build quality. I actually like the look of it.
The 5600m is not bad at all.
AC Valhalla would not automatically run on the 5600m, but it can be overridden by using graphics settings.
I added a 2nd nVME drive (1TB) so i can have more than 1 or 2 games installed.
I plan on upgrading the RAM to 16 or 32 gig at some point.
Oh and I got it for 767 dollars, so I am happy.
Hot damn, that's a great-looking thumbnail!
Thanks!
For those hardware specs and display in the AMD version for that price looks like an incredible deal to me! Knowing that I don't mind the cheap looking appearance at all. It's not like it looks terrible, it just looks like a casual generic standard boring laptop. And I think that's fine if it brings the price down.
Bro what is your bios time ?
I just want a dell XPS 15 with a Ryzen processor...
Looking at the cooling performance of this notebook as well as the cooling hardware. I was hoping the last test is to re-paste the thermal compound with kyronaut and see if it's due to poor out of factory thermal paste... But... You didn't. That's a little disappointing
It's sad that we have to include this now.
Nope you're wrong. I know someone who's repasted this same laptop and gets very good thermals. The latest bios very much inproves thermal performance aswell. I have the laptop and can confirm.
@@RaiPalk78 sry who is wrong on what?
It looks like I found a new heater for this winter! I really appreciate you guys spending extra time with the machine instead of pumping out a review after a few days of use!
You do realize that the actual heat output is a function of how much power is consumed, right?
If the CPU operates at 30 watts and 40 degrees C it outputs 30 watts of heat.
If the CPU operates at 30 watts and 100 degrees C it outputs 30 watts of heat.
Somewhat ironically a 'cooler' running CPU will usually output more external heat due to it being allowed to throttle up.
@@tim3172 The problem here is the temperatures put out by the GPU. Navi just doesn't seem suited for notebooks.
I never really had a problem with "Dell Grey" on looks. It's when you touch it that it you feel and hear problems. Thinkpads can look boring as hell but in the same way that a black SUV is boring until you see red plates on it and some agent steps out.
Goddammit!!! I always thought SE stands for “Slightly Expensive”, never knew that it was special edition 😅
Don't EVER buy a Dell/Alienware. When a component breaks or the machine stops working, they won't even take your call about it. I learned this the hard way.
Really? I've had the exact opposite experience.
Depends on the region you are in tbh, everyone's experience will vary
Agreed..... I'd rather get a predator
Yes regular consumer Dell laptops suck, their business laptops aren't bad but I agree, I would never buy a Dell laptop or anything PC from them lol
@@ultradmx no the thermals are great, i have the laptop. install the latest bios and you get great thermals. He showed in the video the second time round he was getting much better thermals.
You seem to have lost weight, I hope you are doing well healthwise brother, great video 👍
Imagine if the A15 had a proper display and about 35 seconds worth of thought towards its bottom panel design...it could’ve been the most recommended laptop for 2020.
yup the A15 had a lot of potential but asus just like most other manufacturers decided to butcher it for whatever reason maybe
The funny part is that even if Dell bumps the price by USD100-150, it will still be a better option compared to Intel (performance-wise). I wonder why they didn't do much effort into the design. Does intel sabotage AMD through brands?
The Intel model with RTX 2060 comes with all 3 USB 3 ports. I'm testing them right now with external hard drives and I can get 100MB/s sequential reads/writes on Crystal DiskMark on the rear one and on the side ones as well.
550~MB with SSD
my beef with these laptop makers is they make a capable gaming laptop that is great for photo and video dabbling, but its comes with high refresh rate screens at 1080p. not useful for the photo/video crowd. as soon as something gets labeled for "creators" the price goes up quickly, there's never a middle ground device.
Segmentation is a mental illness of corporate bean counters and marketers.
Please review,
Hp omen 15
Yes!
@@anselgatus5290 yes too
pointless, HP is putting a low quality screen in the omen 15 for sale in india. and there's also just a couple of configurations for sale. it's up on flipkart you can find it when you include out of stock/restocking soon products in search. The pricing is ok tho. looks like HP has lowered the base price of the devices to adjust for the taxes.
if they put the same screens as on the US versions and more configurations for sale, it would've been the perfect high-midrange gaming laptop in india. @80-100K rupees.
the zephyrus g14 and 15 both are THE best laptops on the market right now, except that they omit the webcam and run hot(not by design but due to a last minute decision by asus to block two of the three air intake vents using a plastic sheet just for the AMD versions; i believe that it was intel's doing so that their nuclear reactors look competitive with AMD versions); the HP omen has all the positives of zephyrus, has a great chassi, has a camera and runs cool. PERFECT. now if only i had a relative in US so i could get the best config for less :(
DAMN YOU HP INDIA!!
Working on it. That and the 30L possibly.
@@megalith7796 I ordered hp omen today as I play with and external monitor soo I don't care about the screen while gaming but other than that I think the screen will suffice me through college !
This laptop and the msi bravo are perfect examples of manufacturers not giving a crap about build quality. Nice in theory but horrible execution
Which laptop has best built quality?
Dell lets us down again. That I/O is outrageous, the webcam should be better. I don't care about sound from built-in laptop speakers, use external speakers!
I mean its a gaming laptop which it excels at.
The squeaky noise is because the heat sink is not put together properly. I replaced the heat sink and now the noise is gone.
I hope you guys have the Ryzen version of the Omen 15 on your review list, it has an Nvidia GPU but it's a much better example of a Ryzen equipped laptop at this price point. It doesn't look like it's from 2014 and it isn't a furnace.
omen 15 and lenovo legion are the best amd laptops for the price. Then comes asus g14 at 1400$ and 2000$+ laptops are not worth it these days
@@gzarari Funny how everyone keeps saying this about the Legion notebook. The highest end GPU they're offering in most regions is the GTX 1650 Ti for ~$1100 USD and that's a terrible value.
@@HardwareCanucks if you ever feel angry about prices just loop up the Indian prices of products. Xps 13 starts at 1900 usd in india
@@HardwareCanucks I read somewhere that a 2060 version is coming, but it was dumb of Lenovo to lead off with only the 1650 Ti.
That said, the Omen launched with the 1660 Ti and that's perfect for my use cases!
I just bought my Dell G5 Se with R7 4800h. I would say, the design is actually not bad. It looks nice but not really great. And yeah, the thermal issue are seriously real. I was using it for about 15 min and the top side of the keyboard just below the screen is really hot. It feels like I have been using it for a an hour of gaming. And just to think, I was only surfing in the Microsoft edge. But fortunately, I came prepared with this. So I'm updating all drivers in windows update and also Dell Update App and also with dell support assist application.
For this price they should be able to make it all metal and have high speed USB.
It seems like they had junior project engineer work on it, he then poorly managed the system design and they quickly ran out of BOM budget and ended up having to make a lot of sacrifices to reach the target price.
Glitches with power management is typical AMD thing on laptops, they always struggle with drivers.
This thing was sanctioned by the bean counters trying to mitigate the yearly loses from the pandemic.
If oems still dont make more amd laptops next year, intel’s been bribing them.
They took top hardware and made it look terrible. It's like giving your kid expensive oil paints for finger painting.
If they don't respond to obvious customer choice, then something is really amiss....
I get the feeling a product design engineer had stuff in his inbox like 'it still feels too good, can you make it a bit creakier? use cheaper plastic, make it really glossy and pick up oily sheen and scratches like butter?' so as not to compete with their other lines
4:12 We need metric units damnit!!
The day that the build quality for AMD laptops stop being rubbish, will be a good day for the industry. Almost every single one that I see always has negative feedback on the design and/or colour choice.
Just bought this laptop and it’s very nice!! Only MAJOR ISSUE I have is my mouse isn’t workin!! I tested two new mouses
I own this one and have no problems, except it can get a bit toasty. but I keep it in front of my fan and i keep temps around 70- 77c while gaming.
Hi Dustin, Can you please tell me what your experience so far with this laptop after 7 months? I am more worried about the Temp and I am thinking to get one so please enlighten me
normaly i dont like videos except if they are outstanding to some sort, from a small youtuber or if they do something really convinient. the timeline on this video is really good and i hope more youtuber do that
3:20 Dell has the same problem on the XPS 13 .
I guess it's a trade-off for lowering prices.
Nice review! Love your work!
Hi, for how long should charge it for the first time? 🙏🏼 thank you
@@leethunder758 plug it in the first time you use it. Let it charge 100% before you disconnect power supply. This should be good enough!
@@jeetud2 thank you so much ❤️❤️❤️
17 inch AMD please
when should we expect to see Ryzen in the XPS 15" and 17"?
So far the HP Omen 015 and Eluktronics RP series are it for Ryzen laptop quality.
Hp ryzen build quality has been pretty good for its entire product stack bought a pavilion one for media consumption and was suprised that it was of pretty solid construction some keyboard flex I wish wasn't there but overall better then most ryzen dells and asus
@@alexmeek610 Build quality and poor execution by OEM's to give AMD may have to just buy an independent laptop company like maingear! Produce there own laptop from ground up to show the performance of AMD cpu & gpu within a laptop. Which would send laptop market on there head's. This is the same problems Linux OS had for many years.
This laptop is overpriced for the specs, it needs atleast 16GB DDR4 RAM and 1 TB nvme ssd for $999. In order to save costs dell should instead reduce their 1st party bloatware on the laptop.
Which laptop is better in 2021 for gaming
Dell G5 se with ryzen 5 4600H,AMD Radeon Rx 5500m
Or
MSI GF65 with Intel i5 10500, GTX 1660ti
Beware the hinge! I have a G3 bought in December. The hinge failed (three screws to the lid stripped out) under normal usage (no drops). Dell Support said the damage was out of scope of the warranty.
I bought a new lid from China to replace but am worried that this one won't last any longer (6 months) than the last. Might try and do something to reinforce the screws (sugru?)
That's SUPER bad and even worse customer service. :(
Please review the asus zephyrus g14 1650 version.. I trying to buy 1 and I can't find a single youtuber reviewing that particular product..
Wht abt legion 5 AMD?
Great review covering every aspect of the laptop.
Never thought I would heard Dell XPS L502X again. That laptop with its failing GPU is why I have trust issues with Dell.
It cost +$700 for that same gpu on a MacBook Pro now that says a lot
Dell is not doing the Ryzen 4800h justice. Absolute crime.
I just bought one. Honestly, I would have paid $100 more for better build quality.
But the 6 GB video card is so important for DaVinci Resolve. I only got it for the performance and the bright, (somewhat) color-accurate display. I was interested in the MSI Creator M15, but it was using Intel only. AMD would have been a great fit for a device like that.
I really like the SD card slot for my photo and video needs.
Was able to get a refurbished version of this laptop for $580. Got it from Dell Outlet.
Grabbed this open box at Best Buy for under $600 for my son. We needed a computer as our MacBook of ten years video card crapped out. More than happy with it for what we paid.
Going to give it the full run for its money to make sure there are no issues under the return period and then he plans to sticker the heck out of it and really make it his.
Maybe I'm old but this thing doesn't look that bad to me lol. I'd rather pay for specs on the inside then making the thing look flashy on the outside. That's how I am with my builds too though. The RGB craze could die tomorrow and I wouldn't lose a wink.
Watch out for crashes. If it starts crashing I would suggest returning it asap. Had to return a brand new one, as nothing would fix the crashes. Dell did a bad job on the build for this laptop, both in materials and software.
Bought this and returned the next day. Super loud at load in WOW at med and ultra settings. I had an issue with running in windowed mode. It would leave rainbow pixels after opening another window. I was not happy with this at all!
A cheap aluminum enclosure would barely cost more than a plastic one. Make an awesome notebook that everyone with a budget would be interested in, and they end up making it look like a budget notebook. Someone buying a budget notebook doesn’t want it to look like a budget notebook.
They're mental slaves to segmentation. They're so afraid of competing against themselves that they end up self-sabotaging. Intel does this a lot too.
So, get the Zephyr?
@rabb1tdotcom lmao
I had made up my mind, now I am second-guessing. I want a great display and performance what do you guys think?
any suggestions
It could be the Asus ROG G14
@@ElGuerreroMaya it is expensive. Looking for something under $1000
Acer Triton or Helios and also Lenovo Legion 5
go for a zephyrus g14-15 for great everything but NO camera and you have to open the 2 blocked vents on the AMD model. idk why they did this, probably mischief from intel.
go for HP omen 15 if you need everything great (it has like, no negatives at all).
the end. all other laptops have SOME kind of deal breaker issue.
EXCEPT THAT HP india has replaced the amazing screens in the omen with crappy screens like the tufbook...
Get the hp omeb 15 amd version
AMD must tie up with 2-3 OEM who really care about customer and should involved in there manufacturing, Aesthetics so that end customer get all the benefits
They already are.... they are called the PS5 and Xbox Series X.
I'm surprised this comes with a Kensington locking port since Dell has moved to a Noble lock design in all other models for years now.
Thanks for the video , please review the HP Omen 2020 with AMD CPU ,thanks again.
The question is, do you want to spend hundreds of dollars on a laptop shell that doesn't creak?
Cause i dont.
Bought a Asus tuf fx505du 2019 edition with ryzen 7, gtx 1660 ti , 8gb ram, 512 ssd and a 120 hz panel for 870 dollars this Dell G5 seems nice but you can get much better deals if you dig around long enough.
Both are fryin pans lol
@@ultradmx One frying pan costs 300 less than the other though.
@@ultradmx that's not true latest bios makes it much cooler. I have the laptop its great eight now, best value laptop on tbe market
@@RaiPalk78 Yeah it really is dont know why more people dont buy it not enough marketing i suppose
I just completed my triple booting Dell G5 5590 (Intel i7/RTX 2060) laptop project. So, I shrunk the Windows 10 it came with , added
Ubuntu on the internal M.2 SSD and replaced the SATA HD with a SSD for the OpenCore Hackintosh (Catalina 10.15.6). I can't use the RTX 2060 graphics on MacOS since it can't be used but this G5 15 SE is a good candidate to hackintosh because of the AMD mobile graphics. I don't think OpenCore supports Ryzen laptops yet though. I"ll wait till AMD has Thunderbolt 4 capability on a laptop, till I try it.
Consulta:
Cuando entro a Alienwarecomander no me aparece la parte de FYX para poder hacer el cambio como puedo solucionarlo help me plz
I see the laptops becoming a promising alternative to desktop PCs especially in the far future, but this move from OEMs with AMD Laptops has to stop. Excellent review from Eber though and pointing out this trending flaws on OEMs.
I guess I have to keep waiting for a decent all rounder. Thanks Intel.
Dell’s been using those power supplies for years. Also, you think their 240W is big, then your eyes would open wide at their 330W power bricks. Thing’s heavy as hell too for a laptop power supply.
You’re awesome thanks bro, if u see this can u lemme know what’s the best gaming laptop for 800$? Idk what is goood and what can run what and how well it can run it but after watching this video I trust u
What happened?
Still waiting for that amazing AMD laptop. 2021 it is.
G14
The fact that you were playing on the charger no problem hurts me. Because I just bought this and the throttling when I'm on the charger is insane it crashes my PC entirely.
4:36 You thought it was an iphone 11 pro but it was me DIO
4800h & 60hz have 1*8gb ?
When is your omen 15 review? Also omen 15 or legion 5 when both with rtx 2060 gpus or at least 1660ti
Should I consider buying it over ASUS TUF A15 1660 ti
Smart Shift Reminds me of what HP did for their Laptop(DV6-6C50CA) i5-2450m with AMD discrete GPU HD 7690m XT switchable graphics, they did a custom software which conflicts when you update your drivers... after a year or so HP abandoned it... had too many issues with the software not switching to discrete, workaround fix for it was to go to Bios and change the Switchable graphics from Dynamic to Fixed it worked for it's time while using Windows 7... this laptop is still with me working, even upgraded it to an SSD, free update to windows 10, replaced thermals paste just a month or so ago... it gets a little hot haven't replaced the fan yet guessing it has worn out... also once upgraded to Windows 10 had to switch back Bios from Fixed to Dynamic windows 10 doesn't like the fixed option and lags when shutting down...
Max supported memory is 64GB for the all AMD model. The Intel model Max support is 32GB. There are many reports of people who have the all AMD version of this laptop upgraded to 64 GB. Check Reddit if you don't believe me.
Are the thermals fixed??
Anyone??
It is better after the software updates
Great job capturing the complicated and sometimes contradictory designs and challenges with the current AMD-powered mobile offerings.
@hardware Canucks Love your channel man !! Contents are super Crisp...
Hi, for how long should charge it for the first time? 🙏🏼 thank you
Hi hardware chunks can you make a laptop watercool it is tuf and hard can you do this
Looks like it's been built with the leftover materials from laptops several generations ago. What a real shame
Mime doesn't make any noise when opening the display, and it doesn't make any noise when I hold or push on the bottom either..
What gaming laptop would you recommend for $1,000 to 1,300 usd. For the best bang for buck
I highly suggest to look at the cooling solutions and coverage. Asus tuf 15 is cheap but the vrms are not cooled with a heatsink. It needed to make intake vents smaller to let air channel through the exposed vrms
thank you, i was thinking of buying it, until i saw your video
Can you please request a engineering sample of the eluktronics rp-15, it's one of the top choices for amd 4k series since it doesn't skimp out on too much for its price point
Dank Memes Battery is only 62whr. HP Omen Ryzen+RTX will have 70whr.
@@TofaelTohin yeah but the little lip between the keyboard and screen really bugs me because if you grab the laptop there the screen flexs in. The cost to performance is slightly higher as well. The customization of the rp-15 is way better to allow for switching certain parts to lower cost or even to balance out an upgrade
How good is the 60hz display of dell g5 15 se over Asus a15..? In terms of color accuracy..
You can turn smart shift off in throttlestop
is it good to use a laptop while its charging? does it harm battery ?
I Went to Dell Showroom Today and Build Quality was Great I Felt Like and Idiot there
It's a Scratch magnet though
Hinge is Good and No screen wobble
I want to buy a new laptop. Should I buy this dell g5 SE amd ryzen 5 hexacore ? My main concern is about heating issue.I am very scared of it. What should I buy then? Or Is this ok?
I find the test is kinda skewed because there’s a lot to be said about what’s not in there. Comparing a sub $900 laptop with an RTX2060/70/80 and a RX5500M is only telling half the story if you don’t include at least a 1660ti laptop which is priced about the same as this laptop, you could even include a GTX1650 to make it stand out, because a lot of laptops are still to this day coming with this chip and priced around the same as the G5 SE. Then, about USB ports I wonder what kind of peripheral you would need that use the faster protocol, most of the time you would probably add a mouse or a headset, do you really need a USB3 port for these ? I don’t think so, so a single USB3 might make more sense and then you might use the type C port for some docking station which will add all the ports you’d need when you’re not on the go. As far as overheating goes I’m waiting for mine to see what could be done, but this is my biggest concern about this laptop, I wonder how much lifespan there’s in it if it’s constantly reaching high temperatures, but this is true for a lot of laptops, the A15 exhibit the same issue with poorly designed vents for instance. Anyway, in terms of bang for the buck it’s hard to find better than this laptop in this price range IMO, every brand is cutting corners here or there. So either you recommend a ROG Zephyrus 14 or you accept the compromise being made.
It is rediculus. OEMs deliberatly push downwards AMD build laptops in favor of Intel. TOTALY unacceptable!!!!!!!!!
I got the same laptop, and to be honest its awful and yeah i regret having this. It would be really interesting to see a comparison of this laptop with the MSI Alpha 15 which is having the exact same specs ( Ryzen 7 and RX 5600M ).
Its not awful at all, good day!
It is hotter than Asus tuf a15 ryzen 4800h and 1650ti please tell because i iwn asus tuf a15 it max temps was around 87 celsius
The laptop reviews with the timestamps are superb