Was Valon About To Defeat Joey? [Fighting For A Friend]

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  • @420mralucard
    @420mralucard ปีที่แล้ว +728

    the missing card is clearly the biggest brick in his entire deck, Insect Queen.

    • @sharpw9761
      @sharpw9761 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      Exactly what i was thinking only thing he would of put in so he had some padding to discard without damaging something he did need

    • @Picmanreborn
      @Picmanreborn 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

      ​@@sharpw9761top tier deck building by Mr Wheeler

    • @Lexgnzlz
      @Lexgnzlz 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      He should keep it as a trophy and out of his deck.

    • @PyronusSouria
      @PyronusSouria 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      He actually swapped it out for the soggy piece of Exodia he managed to retrieve

    • @oveia4671
      @oveia4671 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      That's not a brick, that's a whole ass house.

  • @yumatsukumo1096
    @yumatsukumo1096 ปีที่แล้ว +422

    Imagine being a bystander watching this duel and just seeing these two go from playing duel monsters too straight up throwing hands

  • @jonathanfaulkner878
    @jonathanfaulkner878 ปีที่แล้ว +652

    “Name me a Joey card that would be a brick through the entire duel.”
    “Yes”

    • @devilalastor3320
      @devilalastor3320 ปีที่แล้ว +84

      Literally his entire deck because he doesn’t believe in deck construction lol

    • @samurexatlas7373
      @samurexatlas7373 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Insect Queen

    • @damonedrington3453
      @damonedrington3453 ปีที่แล้ว +74

      @@devilalastor3320 people complain about yugi winning through plot but Joeys deck is like it was made by a ten year old who just started

    • @solidzack
      @solidzack ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Probably Insect Queen or The Legendary Fisherman lol

    • @arthurbellon9446
      @arthurbellon9446 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Fortress whale is the winner

  • @greatsage1288
    @greatsage1288 ปีที่แล้ว +612

    Valon vs Joey just being a fist fight in an empty lot over a girl they both like is very relatable. I think Waking The Dragons is my favorite Yugioh arc of all time.

    • @christopherb501
      @christopherb501 ปีที่แล้ว +87

      (inner voice) "Everywhere I go, men are fighting over me in robot suits. Is it something I'm putting out there...?"

    • @shideyafudo
      @shideyafudo ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yeah this is my favorite duel pretty sure, lol

    • @dionysosalters-cj5nr
      @dionysosalters-cj5nr ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Where is that Sigma dude when we need him?

    • @cainandabel7059
      @cainandabel7059 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      do girls like when guys fight over them?

    • @Practicalinvestments
      @Practicalinvestments ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@cainandabel7059 yes and no, they say no but really they do love it cause it’s an ego boost for them

  • @RazorChampion99
    @RazorChampion99 ปีที่แล้ว +160

    In the words of the Abridged series:
    Valon - "Joey just became the most badass character in this show!"
    Joey - ""GUNDAM RAGE!!!!!!"

    • @kookou13
      @kookou13 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      "I AM SUDDENLY AMAZING AT THIS GAME FOR SOME REASON!"

  • @PrecursorIdeliron
    @PrecursorIdeliron ปีที่แล้ว +49

    If they EVER bring out the Armor Cards, each one is gonna have to have one very important line of text on them: “If this card is on the Field, you cannot summon monsters from your Extra Deck.” Otherwise, this is gonna become the most degen Link Spam archetype ever to get printed to cardboard.

  • @AKpilations
    @AKpilations ปีที่แล้ว +394

    Joey has had some of the most physically demanding and strenuous duels in the franchise. He almost died against marik and in this duel he was pushed to the limit and after winning he went straight to duel Mai immediately afterwards and fainted after the duel barely started. Joey is a true underdog.

    • @justinbryan6249
      @justinbryan6249 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Actually in his last duel against Mai, Joey didn't faint when it barely started (that was just an abridged series-only joke). His duel against Mai lasted quite a while before he passed out.

    • @TheFighter411
      @TheFighter411 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      @@justinbryan6249 To piggyback off of you in response to AK, in the sub, Joey actually was pronounced dead for a short period after his duel with Yami Marik. He literally wasn’t breathing.

    • @delloffthewall
      @delloffthewall ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Also, his duel against Yugi in Battle City. He was fighting Marik’s brain control and almost drown.

    • @AKpilations
      @AKpilations ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@delloffthewall yeah forgot about that. Brutal

    • @aceclover758
      @aceclover758 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      That’s why the creator admitted when it comes to personality and mentality, Joey is stronger than Kaiba and Yugi

  • @Blizzardfire
    @Blizzardfire ปีที่แล้ว +89

    Valon's armor monsters were one big Saint Seiya reference, he even does one of the poses, and I love it. Wish it was an actual archetype.

  • @bladersmosh
    @bladersmosh ปีที่แล้ว +474

    Can we appreciate just how beautiful and clean Takahiro Kogami’s animation style was in the third part of this duel? The man never disappoints and criminal he didn’t stick around for season 5.

    • @spartanq7781
      @spartanq7781 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Season five needed him so badly.

    • @yukijadenfilms3425
      @yukijadenfilms3425 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      FACTS

    • @tarikkash4282
      @tarikkash4282 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      He did do the opening/ending for the memory world though!

    • @spartanq7781
      @spartanq7781 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@tarikkash4282 And it's jarring going from them the actual animation of the season.

    • @leblanc3536
      @leblanc3536 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Favorite part is how Valon’s hair poofs back to normal after getting out of his armor

  • @borrelsupremacy
    @borrelsupremacy ปีที่แล้ว +231

    Imagine getting the armor cards and they read that if Oricalcos is on field you can just punch your opponent in the face when you attack.

    • @Lexgnzlz
      @Lexgnzlz 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      Lots of ambulances would be called around the tournament 😂

    • @soundrogue4472
      @soundrogue4472 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      *Mike Tyson enters the ring.

    • @darkclaws1234567891
      @darkclaws1234567891 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Me: I ATTACK YOU DIRECTLY

    • @ML_GAMlNG
      @ML_GAMlNG 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      I uhhh Summon Yugi and attack your life points directly

    • @darkclaws1234567891
      @darkclaws1234567891 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ML_GAMlNG haha you fool you absolute buffoon you activated MY TRAP CARD WHY YOU HITTING YOURSELF

  • @finaldarkfire
    @finaldarkfire ปีที่แล้ว +74

    16:55 Interesting how Valon, a duelist currently using the Seal of Orichalcos, is able to use a Legendary Dragon fusion card. Considering how Dark Magician Girl the Dragon Knight fizzled out the moment Yami activated the Seal of Orichalcos.
    I realize the loophole here is probably that the Rocket Hermos Cannon is a COPY of the original RHC, rather than the genuine article created by Hermos. Nonetheless, I think it would have been a fun twist if Valon's play here ended up fizzling out just like what happened to Yami.

    • @xOmniCloudx
      @xOmniCloudx ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I always felt the same.

    • @thefool7093
      @thefool7093 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Would’ve made a funny “happens to every one in six men” joke

  • @highsol222
    @highsol222 ปีที่แล้ว +142

    The biggest brick in Joey's starting hand could possibly be Gearfried the Swordmaster.

    • @AlexisStreams
      @AlexisStreams ปีที่แล้ว +25

      fortress whale too

    • @dancemania-c760
      @dancemania-c760 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Roulette Spider Spell Card

    • @iRazenrak
      @iRazenrak ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Baby Dragon

    • @timtam2400
      @timtam2400 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Release Restraint could also work since he never drew base Gearfried

    • @solidzack
      @solidzack ปีที่แล้ว

      Insect Queen

  • @darkhydrat9096
    @darkhydrat9096 ปีที่แล้ว +762

    The armor monsters were such a cool mechanic, we need them back

    • @nickschoenherr2238
      @nickschoenherr2238 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      We should have them in real life

    • @Anman999
      @Anman999 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      Next season be called YuGiOh Armored

    • @Eric6761
      @Eric6761 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      We kinda got them again in anime as Meklord emperors infinity

    • @SomeGuyXYZ1
      @SomeGuyXYZ1 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Go, go, Dueling Rangers 😂

    • @marcosantonio-hj7vp
      @marcosantonio-hj7vp ปีที่แล้ว +45

      "I activat my monsters effect and know I will beat your @ss!"

  • @bladersmosh
    @bladersmosh ปีที่แล้ว +167

    Wouldn’t it be hilarious that the armor monsters be announced to get printed in animation chronicle 2023 sometime after this video? It’s as if Konami follows you in more ways than one.

    • @fabiopassos5607
      @fabiopassos5607 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      I dreamed about them coming to the tcg for so long I'm putting my money on Alister's cards in Animation Chronicle this year just to not get sad if I'm wrong 😂

    • @alakazamlover4908
      @alakazamlover4908 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      i feel like they have to wait until they can make duel-disks real for armor cards to really be even half as cool as they are in the show

  • @ashleylightheart126
    @ashleylightheart126 ปีที่แล้ว +183

    Valon: Its all about attack.
    Also Valon: *plays cards with guard and shield in them*

    • @ManosAlpha
      @ManosAlpha ปีที่แล้ว +29

      It's not really off, though. If you attack with brute force, you're expected to defend in that same style. Think of it like the old warriors who were carrying both a sword and a shield.

    • @17-MASY
      @17-MASY ปีที่แล้ว +6

      And Armor.

    • @soundrogue4472
      @soundrogue4472 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      shield bashing son

  • @JzanderN
    @JzanderN ปีที่แล้ว +216

    These videos are always an insta-click for me.
    Also, the best option for a constant brick would be Gearfried the Swordmaster since it can only be summoned by Release Restraint and we know it's in Joey's deck since he used it against Rex Raptor earlier this arc.

    • @eddysegafan6655
      @eddysegafan6655 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Very true. And the SwordMaster's debut is underrated. Card just looks cool wielding a Red-Eyes sword.

    • @Barracius
      @Barracius ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I had the same thought. Either Release Restraint or Gearfried the Swordmaster are perfect brick cards for the start of the duel. I tried to think if Joey had any ritual monsters but couldn't remember any. But the principle is the same - without *all* of the cards needed for the summon, the cards are dead draws.

    • @9Jaker9
      @9Jaker9 ปีที่แล้ว

      He has two

    • @TheLonelySoulja
      @TheLonelySoulja ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Speaking of that duel.. still waiting for that video as well.

    • @christopherb501
      @christopherb501 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Barracius ...Lord of the Red aside, he uses another one *the very next duel!!*

  • @nexus6538
    @nexus6538 ปีที่แล้ว +108

    I love the irony that the first monster Valon ever used to attack, “Big Bang Blow”, was ultimately the card that lead to his downfall in the end.

    • @tarikkash4282
      @tarikkash4282 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Joey has literal plot armor in this duel!

    • @500938ful
      @500938ful 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@tarikkash4282what's your point? They did it to make it entertaining which they accomplished.

    • @tarikkash4282
      @tarikkash4282 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@500938ful That is my point!

    • @soundrogue4472
      @soundrogue4472 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@500938fulenterianing or not plot armor is plot armor.

    • @Lexgnzlz
      @Lexgnzlz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      "Hoist by his own petard" trope.

  • @filipvadas7602
    @filipvadas7602 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    Considering we got Gate Guardian support after 20+ years, this gives me hope that Valon's armor cards might get printed some day in some shape or form. (Along with Dartz's deck)
    Although, obviously,with different effects that aren't quite so dated, but still pay homage to the general idea the anime was going for.

    • @intuitivelymagician2076
      @intuitivelymagician2076 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Same

    • @GoldenKirby
      @GoldenKirby 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeah I'd love to just punch my opponent

    • @Forestxavier20
      @Forestxavier20 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I think the way to do this would be similar to the Gear Cards, where you summon one, it tutors out others, and then you can use them to summon an actual boss monster. A Link-3 Chestpiece that had 3000ATK but couldn't declare attacks. It instead adds a buff to your attacking armor creatures. Each one has a unique effect, like an armor monster that is a shield, armor monster that stops quick effects from other non-armor monsters, stuff like that.

  • @ItsASleepySheepy
    @ItsASleepySheepy ปีที่แล้ว +26

    This duel really reminds me of Joey's early days, especially in the manga pre Duelist Kingdom. He was always ready to throw hands, and was very good at it; a lot of his best moments came from him taking on physical threats that Yugi/Atem couldn't handle, or using his strength and toughness to protect or avenge Yugi whenever he was wronged. It would've been really cool to see Joey take up the armor monsters as part of his main deck, since they fit his style and personality so well.

  • @redlox2
    @redlox2 ปีที่แล้ว +176

    It was a pretty great duel in my opinion. It was pretty emotional as they both thought they were “doing it for Mai”. Plus right afterwards Joey ends up losing to Mai and losing his soul (freeing her but then Mai ends up losing so yeah)… but hey silver lining Hermos eventually ends up in Yamis deck right?

    • @Megamanthemachine
      @Megamanthemachine ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I mean it’s just sad imagine if Joey did actually manage a sweet play enough to beat Mai or stop her regardless it would probably upset fans there has to be renewals I was d a dumbasss big time for not paying attention to most of the duels I didn’t have much to do and unintentionally speed run yugioh instead of studying then watching 😂😂😂😂😂 it makes more sense when your not expecting an outcome for such great writing.

    • @igorlopes8463
      @igorlopes8463 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I just realized, every season had Atem using one of Joey's card at least once:
      1)Duel Kingdom: Fused Red Eyes with Summoned Skull in the tag duel with Para and Dox
      2)Battle City: Used Red Eyes twice, once in the duel against possessed Joey and then againt Seto
      3)Seal of Orichalcus: Took Hermos' Claw after Joey lost to Mai
      4)Virtual World: Fused Dark Magician with Joey's Flame swordsman

  • @Slayerthecrow
    @Slayerthecrow ปีที่แล้ว +37

    This season was ruled by the rule of cool "if looks cool, do it even if it doesn't make sense" and this duel was probably the best example of it considering some plays.

    • @roncerjani9063
      @roncerjani9063 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Idk, Yugi defeating Dartz's Divine Serpent Geh the way he did is a pretty solid contender there.

    • @christopherb501
      @christopherb501 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tends to happen with its showrunner.

    • @ChouRaiyuki
      @ChouRaiyuki ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@roncerjani9063 I thought most of the duels and plays that season were quite grounded with the Dragons' convenience aside (even the effects of their fusions are reasonable). But yeah the infinite attack loop was bullshit and not even because of how he got there because that made sense, but because of how it would make any mathematician cringe.

  • @monke12354
    @monke12354 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    "Name me a Joey card that would be a brick throughout the entire duel" there's so many of them hahaha

    • @CarBroke.PhoneYes
      @CarBroke.PhoneYes ปีที่แล้ว

      Name one

    • @xfighters3913
      @xfighters3913 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@CarBroke.PhoneYes Insect Queen

    • @levievil9220
      @levievil9220 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@xfighters3913 panther warrior with no tributes or scapegoat

    • @noahzhellos8344
      @noahzhellos8344 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@levievil9220 Skull Dice (at least in this particular duel)

    • @levievil9220
      @levievil9220 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@noahzhellos8344 oh yeah all his monsters no attack without the seal

  • @cyberdarkturtle6971
    @cyberdarkturtle6971 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    The best part of this duel was Joey and Valon actually getting to know one another. I just love it

    • @nexus5253
      @nexus5253 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It’s so cool

    • @johngancarcik5682
      @johngancarcik5682 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They realized they were more alike than they realized

  • @acebesttheiris134
    @acebesttheiris134 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    This was less of a duel and more of a fist fight. That's why I loved it!

  • @roninwarriorsfan
    @roninwarriorsfan ปีที่แล้ว +82

    To me, the armor cards are precursor to the Meklord Emperors
    Edit: Trap Hole of Spikes for the mystery brick card (all of Valon's monsters have 0 atk, so that trap's useless)

    • @Divine_Serpent_Geh
      @Divine_Serpent_Geh ปีที่แล้ว +10

      More like Timelords IMO:
      - 0 ATK
      - Negate damage
      - Can’t be destroyed in some cases
      - Inflict some type of damage while destroying/removing opponent monster(s).

    • @yumatsukumo1096
      @yumatsukumo1096 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Or both

  • @spicyboi544
    @spicyboi544 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    This duel was one of the hypest and one of the most rewatchable. Man I love waking the dragon

    • @nexus5253
      @nexus5253 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Same here

    • @LucianDevine
      @LucianDevine 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Same, the dragon fusions were clearly pure plot device, up to and including the one that defused and the one that failed. So as long as you sit back and enjoy each duel for what it was, it was a pretty fun watch. The same goes for season 3 really. The deckmaster system was also basically plot device city, letting the writers have free reign to do whatever they wanted during the filler arc.

  • @TheFighter411
    @TheFighter411 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Just rewatched this duel last night! This is, imo, one of Joey’s best duels, if not his best duel, in all of DMs.

  • @davidosakwe350
    @davidosakwe350 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    This is hands down once of my favourite duels of all time regardless of whether it's Canon or not. The whole thing with them armouring themselves with their monsters was unexpected and hype as hell. It was one of the only duels that had me on the edge of my seat.

    • @ryhi5
      @ryhi5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @bruhmanofyear2 It's only "not canon" only if you want to Nitpick about technicalities, and that's honestly not really all that fun. If you want the question answered, then when it comes to which source material has canon priority, then it's manga over anime. It's the same reason why certain things exclusive to the Harry Potter movies are technically not canon since they didn't happen in the books.

    • @davidosakwe350
      @davidosakwe350 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@bruhmanofyear2647 bro relax. It's not like I dissed it or something.

    • @ryhi5
      @ryhi5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @bruhmanofyear2 that's exactly what I meant when I said it's not fun to debate technicalities. TECHNICALLY the manga has canon priority, but honestly it's not something people should care too much about.

    • @random0activity
      @random0activity ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @bruhmanofyear2 he's referring to the manga when making the canon statement. People do this with every anime based on a manga. Canon to the anime really doesn't make since here

    • @jasperanusiem1743
      @jasperanusiem1743 ปีที่แล้ว

      @david osakwe agreed

  • @XLRider2
    @XLRider2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    This is my favorite duel of the entire original Yu-Gi-Oh series. This duels is absurd, it's fun, it's ridiculous, but in all of the best ways, while also being very emotional, especially if you combine it with the duel that Joey does with Mai immediately after this.

  • @jingamikage3700
    @jingamikage3700 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    One of the best duels jounochi ever had in the classic Yu-Gi-Oh series. This duel was more than just a duel. This duel was about who deserves mai and who she cared for the most. In the end she chose Joey, and that's why valon said in Japanese " I'll leave Mai to you".

    • @ruthinmars
      @ruthinmars ปีที่แล้ว +15

      And what made me mad was she didn't care either way who won because she was under the orichalcos Joey had to die before she came to her senses

    • @dnhyp3rx
      @dnhyp3rx ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think it's telling of mai choosing jounochi when she calls out for him mid struggle and valon falters hearing this.

  • @Revanaught
    @Revanaught ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I absolutely love how this entire duel was just an excuse for joey and valon to have a fist fight over Mai. It's so silly, I adore it.

  • @thefirespecialist9007
    @thefirespecialist9007 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    This is such a fitting duel for Joey, since Joey is so keen on throwing hands with anyone at anytime.
    My favorite example... Literally, Episode 1: Joey to Kaiba- "Ooo, im shaking! Why don't we settle this with fist's, instead of cards?!"

    • @HighPriestFuneral
      @HighPriestFuneral ปีที่แล้ว +22

      I guess Pegasus took that as a personal challenge to say "Why not both?"

    • @royalty843
      @royalty843 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Joey and Tristan are the fighters. And he took swings at Bandit Keith for locking the gang in that cave.

    • @LonelyStardefender
      @LonelyStardefender 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Funny because kaiba can actually do both
      Remember,he spent an entire season running away from strapped goons that wanted to kill him and though we only saw it once or twice,I'm pretty sure he actually throw hands at rare hunter and bullies that were breaking the rules,all over the city
      Now imagine that,playing a children card game in a back Allen,then some rich dude comes in,beat your oponent down to save you...and then be blasted with a "third rate dualista with a fourth rate deck"😂

  • @TYLER-fs5ks
    @TYLER-fs5ks ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Episode 169!!!!
    Man the amount effort TGS anime puts in his videos from trivia to lore to rule explaining not mentioning goin to the duel back to back to know every possible move and Evey card in hand it's just shows how much this man puts his heart into these kinds of videos

  • @rainbowdragon168
    @rainbowdragon168 ปีที่แล้ว +136

    The abridged version of this duel was hilarious lol 😂

    • @caelalbridge3347
      @caelalbridge3347 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Gundam Rage!!!😂

    • @rainbowdragon168
      @rainbowdragon168 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@caelalbridge3347 Lol

    • @XXMatt0040XX
      @XXMatt0040XX ปีที่แล้ว +19

      its a shame (at least in the US) the video is removed from the channel so its easy to miss. i only saw it the first time a year or so ago. "Nah I just like being evil mate" is SO FUNNY
      Edit: The video is on youtube, LittleKuriboh hasn't added the 3rd party's upload to his playlist though. No need for a VPN 4Kids only gun for that man.

    • @RealCaptainAwesome
      @RealCaptainAwesome ปีที่แล้ว +4

      No harpies were harmed in the making of this duel

    • @rainbowdragon168
      @rainbowdragon168 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@XXMatt0040XX Yeah that part was funny

  • @robertrupp7231
    @robertrupp7231 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    For me this is definitely top ten of all time. Great passion and writing. One thing I love in the dub vs sub is when Joey summons Lord of the red the summoning is blue flame which in reality is many times hotter than orange plus I think it looks a lot cooler

  • @nopunchman
    @nopunchman ปีที่แล้ว +16

    The really cool thing about the Armor monsters is how well they synergize with the Seal of Orichalcos: the extra zones allowing Valon to equip more things, and the ATK boost helping to compensate for the Armor monsters' naturally low ATK

  • @snowflakequeenfirekingjoin7085
    @snowflakequeenfirekingjoin7085 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    I'd say the mystery card is probably roulette spider. It serves no purpose considering majoirty of the duel Valon has no monsters or monsters that could redirect an attack to something else also Joey faces a great risk using it
    Edit: correction a greater risk considering when he could use it he has little LP left because again Valon leaves his himself wide open most of the duel

    • @chrisdonovan9872
      @chrisdonovan9872 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I like to thinks it's flame swordsman his ace not the best for level 5

    • @LucianDevine
      @LucianDevine ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@chrisdonovan9872 My bet is Gilford the Lightning. I don't think he ever ended up with 3 monsters on the field or a way to discard a card from his hand. So it could 100% be dead in his hand all duel.

    • @shadowfan115
      @shadowfan115 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@chrisdonovan9872 the issue is i think they changed him to a fusion monster in this season

    • @shadowfan115
      @shadowfan115 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@LucianDevine gilford 100% makes sense as it is dead in hand and he has no way to make it any time soon and if he tried valon basically wins before he can

    • @chrisdonovan9872
      @chrisdonovan9872 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Shadowfan115 just looked up and nope still was a normal monster when he summoned it as a spirit against darts at the end also besides some it thier as a background card as a proper fusion it was never a fusion in dm at least

  • @PickyPaige
    @PickyPaige ปีที่แล้ว +19

    This is straight up a TOP 10 Duel of the whole YGO franchise for me! The characters, the passion, the strategy, the unique fist fighting with armor! It's one of the awesomest duels ever!

  • @MasterArchfiend
    @MasterArchfiend ปีที่แล้ว +11

    You know…they kind of work like the Meklord Emperor pieces except being attached to the duelist. They are effectively one monster made up of 5 parts and can be customized to suit the situation either with upgraded parts or the parts from different Meklords.

    • @misterOrca4
      @misterOrca4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Oh man, I ever when the Meklords were he hot shit of sat the time. And I was so desperate to get all three Meklords.

    • @Someone-lg6di
      @Someone-lg6di ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@misterOrca4 My first yugioh card pack had meklord emperor granel

  • @tomduckworth6430
    @tomduckworth6430 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    By far my favorite duel of the original series. It is just so ludicrous while being played completely straight. Beautiful

  • @DiasOctavio
    @DiasOctavio ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The day duel monsters became a shounen anime kkkkk

    • @DiasOctavio
      @DiasOctavio ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah man, I know, I'm joking, you don't need to overthink that

  • @17-MASY
    @17-MASY ปีที่แล้ว +7

    One of my most favourite duels in the entire series.
    20:38 This makes me think, If the cards are holograms how did this happen to valon's hair

  • @johndutra8302
    @johndutra8302 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    This is not only one of my favorite duels in Yu-Gi-Oh, but one of my favorite anime moments overall! It was THE ONE time I didn't get bored with the whole "fighting over the girl" thing and one of the few times I saw it being done correctly! They both genuinely cared for Mai and over the course of the duel learned to respect each other by understanding that, although each in their own way, they ultimately wanted the same thing...to protect her.

  • @halodragonmaster
    @halodragonmaster ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I think armor cards would, in effect, function both either as monsters or as infernoble knights as they do nowadays, being able to equip themselves to other armor cards to provide effects.
    In the most basic sense, they pretty much function like the meklord emeperor parts from the anime as well

    • @sakulugh
      @sakulugh ปีที่แล้ว +2

      or like union monsters

    • @southernflight5078
      @southernflight5078 ปีที่แล้ว

      Union Monsters similar to the XYZ. Most likely requiring contact fusion and having a similar spell/effect that the newer magnet warriors use to bring out their combined form.

  • @JzanderN
    @JzanderN ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I'd like to recommend, even though it's a smaller duel, Syrus vs Hassleberry. Hassleberry could have ended it in a tie if he wanted, but also he played exactly how Syrus expected him to and thus into all his traps, so could he have avoided that altogether by playing differently? Plus I want that infinite loop acknowledged.

  • @billykepner4938
    @billykepner4938 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Perfect thing to listen to while heading to work. Love this series!

  • @studiospider8713
    @studiospider8713 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I think Valon might have actually used the effect of Psychic Armor Head, but just didn’t declare it. There was a point in the duel where, at the start of his turn, he just drew and played Black Hole Shield without looking at it.

  • @devilishgenius
    @devilishgenius ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This duel was really cool but I always found it weird. Joey just happened to have armor monsters in his deck that we never saw before.

    • @ScionStorm1
      @ScionStorm1 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      They aren't technically Armor ability monsters. Aura Armor uses his Life Points so manifesting as equipped armor seems in theme. But Joey becoming Lord of the Red is random and probably just so animators could have him fist fight with Valon.

    • @levievil9220
      @levievil9220 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ScionStorm1 maybe he decided to update his deck a bit between seasons and he found the lord of red ritual and armor card randomly and not knowing what they can do thought it would be cool to use plus there is merit because battle city no gearfreird the master swordsman just the iron knight so it makes sense he enhances his own deck

  • @diothevampire3250
    @diothevampire3250 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Finally you cover this duel, one of my favorite duels

  • @nathanaylor7646
    @nathanaylor7646 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I would say the closest thing we got to the armor monsters was the meklord monsters in the anime as all five combined into one monster

  • @1Dataluke
    @1Dataluke ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Armour monsters could be cool but not as their own sub type. Make them Pendulum monsters to reflect them being played in the S/T zone in the anime and being able to mass swarm the field. Finish by giving them some more viable effects beyond battle phase things and I think they could be really fun!

  • @jj209th6
    @jj209th6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    So if Joey had used monster reborn on Psychic armor head, he likely would've won, and valon would've won if he'd attacked jinzo. Fair trade I guess

    • @jj209th6
      @jj209th6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@bruhmanofyear2647 Yeah but valon also didn't know what Joey had in his hand, so if he used his get out of jail free card when he had another, more expendable option available to him, it may have backfired. He had a 50/50 and just ended up choosing wrong.

  • @anthonythomas305
    @anthonythomas305 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Yes! Thank you so much, TGS!
    This duel was so epic in this arc. It was my 3rd favorite Joey duels in DM

  • @michaelcarlton1484
    @michaelcarlton1484 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Sad thing is that all those punches Valon did ended up doing physical damage to Joey since monsters were made real during this arc. If Joey wasn't so exhausted and hurt, he could have possibly beaten Mai.

  • @blackberryblast6179
    @blackberryblast6179 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Now he better cover the Yusei vs the Meklords after this.That was one of my favorite duels in Yu-Gi-Oh! 5ds 🐲.

  • @LightingbladeShen
    @LightingbladeShen ปีที่แล้ว +6

    With this duel and then earlier Malik's shenanigans, Joey's gotta have the body trauma of several lifetimes

  • @Goldhawk7
    @Goldhawk7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Its so fun when the duelists create an entirely new card, then write the text/ special ability of the card in the spur of the moment. 😆

  • @unclaimedusername6608
    @unclaimedusername6608 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    God, this match is still one of my favorites. my only regret is that Lord of the Red was destroyed. It would have been amazing to see both armors at max power clashing.

  • @DarkLord-7
    @DarkLord-7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The only explanation I can come up with for Valon's misplays is he wants to see Joey at his best. Like he wants this duel to end with both himself and Joey giving their all. If he had ended the duel when he had that misplay, while yes, it is for plot reasons, it could also be because Joey hasn't had much of a chance yet.

  • @SpecsTube
    @SpecsTube ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Next has to be GX - I’m requesting Syrus vs Zane from the GX tournament in Season 2 or Axel or Jim vs Supreme King Jaden in Season 3.
    For 5D’s, I’d like to suggest Jack, Leo and Luna vs Aporia or Yusei vs Antinomy (Both duels).
    Also the Armour monsters, to me at least, somewhat resemble the anime versions of the Meklord Emperors.

    • @ryhi5
      @ryhi5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'd like to add my own request!
      ZEXAL - Yuma vs Nash, Kaito vs Mizar
      ARC V - Yuya vs Yuri, All three of Yuya's duels against Reiji/Declan
      VRAINS - All three of Lightning's duels against Blood Shepherd, Specter, and Revolver.

  • @michaelnally2841
    @michaelnally2841 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I think out of all the main cast season 4 showcased how Joey evolved the most as a duelist.

    • @equivalentexchangeisalie5726
      @equivalentexchangeisalie5726 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And then the show turns him back into a joke losing his last duel in the series to lame ass Zigfried while still being called an amateur by Kaiba in the 2nd to last episode. Complete BS!!! 😡😡😡

    • @ashleynguyen4827
      @ashleynguyen4827 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And Joey never loses in the Orichalcos duel matches only except with Mai at the end due to his exhaustion.

    • @michaelnally2841
      @michaelnally2841 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@equivalentexchangeisalie5726 kinda agree although in fairness he almost won and managed to make Zigfried ACTUALLY TRY.

    • @equivalentexchangeisalie5726
      @equivalentexchangeisalie5726 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@michaelnally2841 Nowhere near good enough. The whole Zigfried arc was awful and Kaiba didn't need another storyline. It should have been a season about Joey and Mai. Getting the respect he deserves, defeating Kaiba, Joey and Mai resolving things and getting together. Instead we get this complete BULLSH*IT!!!

    • @michaelnally2841
      @michaelnally2841 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@equivalentexchangeisalie5726 yeah the only duels I genuinely liked from there were Yugi vs Leon, Kaiba vs Zigfried, and Joey vs Solomon Muto.

  • @Alice_Haukea
    @Alice_Haukea ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Looking back on these armor monsters.... they function as the foundation to what would later be the Mechlord Emperors and how they are a combination of 5 parts to form a full robot.

  • @nopls3607
    @nopls3607 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Idk why but whenever a card is never revealed, I just assume the duelist has a singular fake piece of exodia in their deck

  • @giovanniorellana2200
    @giovanniorellana2200 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Valon: "Joey just become the most bad-ass character in Yu-Gi-Oh!" 😆

  • @JaimeD.
    @JaimeD. ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The Armor Deck was so cool and my favorite anime cards, which surprised me to this day that they weren't brought into the real world through adaptation towards the modern duels. 😅

  • @mariothane8754
    @mariothane8754 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    One of the coolest fights of the arc, and the fact that it turned into a legitimate fist fight was even better.

  • @marsella527
    @marsella527 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Really convenient Joey happened to have "armored" cards in his deck. Especially the 'Plot Amor' card

  • @Caelus32
    @Caelus32 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I think that in order for the Armor monsters to work, they would need a field spell that allows the user to either treat Armor monsters as equip spells or to use the backrow as additional monster zones

    • @southernflight5078
      @southernflight5078 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can also have effects similar to the vision heros, but that would involve them having boosting effects for the armor monsters in the monster zones.

    • @Caelus32
      @Caelus32 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@southernflight5078 That would be interesting

  • @Silphanis
    @Silphanis ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I would love to suggest for a deeper look Ishizu vs Kaiba. I've always had a lot of thoughts about that duel, and it's made a bit more interesting by the future sight aspect. Still, a few of the plays in there have always confused me.

  • @feathero3
    @feathero3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I would love armor type cards. There is so much potential for unique game play there, and I'd love to feel more involved with my monsters as a duelist, like I'm fighting on the field with them.

  • @Vierdro
    @Vierdro ปีที่แล้ว +5

    while different the most similar thing to valon's armor cards were the mecklord emperor's in 5ds. Being made up of 5 pieces that could be upgraded and mixed and matched.

  • @CybercietyYT
    @CybercietyYT ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Once again, Waking the Dragon's arc staying having one of the most goated duels in the series.
    Also yes, Armor Monsters would be great and could add in other references like from Capsule Monsters to have their piece like, "Duel Armor." And so on.

  • @alexcaraballo3189
    @alexcaraballo3189 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think armor monsters could work as union monsters, equipping to another monster. Maybe they could work as a warrior archetype similar to the superheavy archetype

  • @brokendoll3368
    @brokendoll3368 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Technically Speaking, the Meklords in the anime worked a bit like Valon's armor monsters, in that they were five monsters acting as one. No physically punching the opponent though. Would have been really practical during riding duels.
    Yeah, I theorized that Jet Gauntlet only works if the opposing monster has below 1000 ATK or so, but there is the usual no information on that, so... I similarly never knew Burning Knuckles debuff only works while it is attacking. So I wondered why it was not chosen as attack target for Jinzo.
    Btw, on the turn he used Burning Knuckle to attack Jinzo, he could and should have used Psychic Armor Head to grab Buster Pyle.
    On the topic of Armor Monster in the TCG: Well, some look like they inherently only work with the Seal of Orichalkos, like Burning Knuckle. Getting 200 ATK for every monster on the field just does not work if you can only have 5. I guess though it would be possible to recreate their effects as "If you control an Armor Monster, you can equip this card from your hand to that monster. If this monster is chosen as an attack target, you can special summon one Armor Monster equipped to this card, redirect the attack to it, and equip this card to it. If a monster is destroyed while this card is equipped to that monster, you can special summon this monster and equip all other Armor monsters equipped to that monster to this cards. You can special summon this card equipped to an armor monster to your field, and if you do, equip all other armor monsters equipped to that monster and that monster to this card."

  • @gldni17
    @gldni17 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Not sure I'd call Take One Chance a gamble in this case, considering that we've seen the dragon cards literally replace other cards at will, so if he needed it, Hermos was going to appear, no questions asked. My bigger question is how he knew that he needed to fuse it with Big Bang Blow. Also, I keep forgetting how broken Graverobber is in Duel Monsters. I feel like it gets stronger over the course of the series. XP
    As for armor monsters in the game, I would love to see them appear. In particular, they could come with built in functionality for having more than 5 on the board (maybe they can be summoned to the Extra Monster zone or Spell/Trap zone), just have to limit using them to summon Extra Deck monsters. Additionally, they could make a card of the Dark Magician Armor from Capsule Monsters/Yu-Gi-OH ALEX, along with other iconic armor sets or monsters (Utopia and the Code Talker monsters are obvious choices).

  • @krbchris26
    @krbchris26 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Best duel ever. I love the Waking the Dragons arc so much and I will hear no negatives about it. Valor is especially one of my personal favorites and just wish his armor monsters would just be printed already

  • @dellosayshello5405
    @dellosayshello5405 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This duel was always one the most feverish and that’s saying something in this show

  • @heavydonkeykong5190
    @heavydonkeykong5190 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Easily one of my favorite duels from the OG series. Great video as always.

  • @sasir2013
    @sasir2013 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The reason why valon doesn't use the psychic helmet effect to draw armored monsters instead of drawing normally it's probably that he wanted the magic cards like full armored gravitation that can summon multiple monsters

  • @albertlofling7310
    @albertlofling7310 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love the idea that someone brings an armour deck to a tournament and brings a suit of armour and for each card equips a piece

  • @BlazeWheeler
    @BlazeWheeler ปีที่แล้ว +15

    FINALLY. MY FAVORITE DUEL IN THE SERIES. I'm so glad you got around to it. I really wish Konami would go ahead and print Valon's deck buffed up to modern standards

  • @chysky1673
    @chysky1673 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I just watched this episode not too long ago, and I'll admit, this is one for my absolute favorite duels, I'm so glad you reviewed it!

  • @christopherb501
    @christopherb501 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Another point on Monster Reborn: while it wouldn't have mattered, it would have been smarter on Valon's part to bring back Jinzo. Post-Orichalcos, same difference in damage dealt, and it would potentially deal with a Trap, if Joey had one.

  • @LarkManEXE
    @LarkManEXE ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think there was a bit of mistranslating: it appears that the Armor Archetype is focused on the Battle Phase, thus their effects can only trigger on attacks. Since they share the effect of only one can attack per turn, not all the effects can activate. Boots, Guard, and Head can since they are not offense focused, but the Knuckles have to follow that clause.

  • @grimgadget6726
    @grimgadget6726 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Even if he switched the attack to jet gauntlet Joey just could have brought back Jinzo in main phase 2 with monster reborn so he didn't have the chance to win that way.

  • @acyclicpepper34
    @acyclicpepper34 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Let's just say the mystery card in Joey's opening hand was "Paladin of Dark Dragon" and he never drew the Ritual Spell.

    • @timtam2400
      @timtam2400 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Or the other way round and say it was Dark Dragon Ritual and he never drew Paladin.

  • @RedDragonForce2
    @RedDragonForce2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I see the Armor Monsters as the prototype for Meklords from an Anime perspective of designing cards. You can see the similarities too.

  • @thewrathproject308
    @thewrathproject308 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If they would have ever come out with these cards, they probably would have made them like meklord emperor's. For example, the meklord emperor's in the anime was also in several parts, but in the tcg the emperor's would be whole, also still have the separate monsters parts in a way.

  • @cruz5531
    @cruz5531 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Hoping for a syrus vs Zane duel analysis, it was always one of my favorite GX duels

  • @MrPerfect2000Z
    @MrPerfect2000Z ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Props to you for actually doing this video.
    Valon's duels have always been those ones where I stopped paying attention to the actual duel happening and just watched it for the spectacle. When presented with the Armour cards and what their effects are, my brain just tunes out lol It's probably not that difficult to understand but I just cannot comprehend them
    So I just roll with it lol Valon's a good character but I was like "What is happening?" the entire time

  • @alexrazmus1798
    @alexrazmus1798 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I’m gonna say that the mystery card in Joey’s starting hand is Knight of Dark Dragon. Would make sense because Joey wouldn’t be able to summon it during this duel.

  • @vampenga9277
    @vampenga9277 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The concept of the armor monsters is really cool. I would love to see an entire series based around it tbh. Like the duel disk is a set of armor and the duelists fight using the power of their monsters. In terms of rules I imagine it'd be a nightmare, but the possibilities really makes me want to see what would happen.

  • @NexeL_NKC
    @NexeL_NKC ปีที่แล้ว +5

    My first thought on Joey's mysterious card? Gilford the Lightning. He requires 3 tributes, and Joey either didn't have enough throughout the duel, or got tunnel vision and he didn't summon him. Not that Gilford would've helped him much, but it's something.

    • @a-void6774
      @a-void6774 ปีที่แล้ว

      We never saw Gliford in season 3 though.

    • @AngelKnightZeo713
      @AngelKnightZeo713 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@a-void6774 Yeah, we did- Battle City counts as Seasons 2 & 3 in regards to the anime

    • @a-void6774
      @a-void6774 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AngelKnightZeo713 Wake of the dragon Mr. Technical 🙄

  • @timaeus22222
    @timaeus22222 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This was one of my favorite duels of all time. Thank you for covering it! :D

  • @thesaucymare1562
    @thesaucymare1562 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video. This is one of my fav duels out of the entire show. Yes I want Valon's Armor monsters, they are my fav anime archetype. I've wanted them sense this duel first happened. Don't know how good they could be but I'd still play them.

  • @maskedman523
    @maskedman523 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I like how 2 of the basic 5 armor monster cards are the inverse of exodia on how the head and chest of exodia are one card and the legs are 2 cards and for the the armor cards the legs are one card and the helmet and chest armor are 2 different cards

  • @MistaShadowman
    @MistaShadowman ปีที่แล้ว +3

    For the brick card in question, I'd say it could be The Legendary Fisherman. Another thing I want to say is I wish that we had gotten/will get more fusions for Claw of Hermos. I know its fusions aint the best, but I could see some fun potential for some of Joey's other monsters (Jinzo could be a helm and gauntlets, TLF could be a trident/spear, etc.)

  • @robinvobin9094
    @robinvobin9094 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    They are quite like mechlord emperors in the anime actually. Each piece being a single monster

  • @freezasama5802
    @freezasama5802 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I reckon the card he never used was Gilford of lightning since he requires 3 tributes to summon and Vallons cards can come back from destruction so Joey didn’t bother using it

  • @TheLonelySoulja
    @TheLonelySoulja ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love this duel, but like in all this videos and even what Valen says all good things must come to an end, so my favorite part of all this videos is and the penultimate turn of the duel.